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00:01:19.000It's getting better though because more fighters every day are joining that force.
00:01:23.000You know, where I see or I hear about fighters that used to fight that are involved in the commissions, at least like in Florida and stuff.
00:01:28.000So I know 10 years from now, there's going to be nothing but productive people and people that know what they're looking at, you know?
00:01:39.000Even the new, improved scoring system.
00:01:40.000It's like, MMA is so much different than boxing.
00:01:42.000And to adopt this scoring system just because it already existed for boxing, you know, that's like adopting the rules of tennis for ping-pong.
00:03:16.000And I wouldn't disagree because they used to pay me really good and give us super perks.
00:03:21.000They used to give us some super perks, you know?
00:03:23.000Take us to exotic locations to fight, be there for two weeks.
00:03:27.000You plus two, they'd fly out, take care of you.
00:03:29.000They really, really took very good care of you.
00:03:31.000So when I heard that they blew out 100 million in three years, I was like, yeah, it could be, you know?
00:03:36.000Well, they were fighting on the beach with hot girls in bikinis, wandering around dancing.
00:03:40.000But you were on the beach, like in the sun.
00:03:43.000I was like, who the fucking idea is it to fight in the sun?
00:03:46.000But let me tell you, the training sessions that went on there were some of the best that I've seen in the world.
00:03:52.000So you would go and you'd bring two of your corner men and then somebody found that and then before you know you had like four people of your entourage going with you from whatever team that was and everybody was doing that and we'd have a training place and what they had done was laid out tarps and mats and it was huge so we'd have like a hundred pros 50 pros from all over the world just training you know and when you don't know each other and it's like hey you want to roll you know it gets competitive you know yeah so there was some great training sessions that I saw and that I that I took a part of you know Wow.
00:04:53.000Yeah, that Oscar De La Hoya thing, that's probably never going to happen again after the Tito and Chuck fight.
00:05:00.000But someone of that ilk, someone like a Golden Boy Promotions, they started getting involved in MMA and putting together, they could get some guys that aren't signed but are super high level with a big name.
00:05:11.000Maybe the contract comes up and they decide to do something with a big name promoter.
00:09:45.000Yeah, well, you know, you being down there, though, you couldn't ask for a better training environment.
00:09:49.000I mean, what they've established on there, I mean, it was great when there was the Black Zillions there as well, but, I mean, American Top Team down there, like, holy shit!
00:11:50.000You know, on my card, we got four people from American Top Team fighting against the world, you know?
00:11:55.000I think for a while, it was like Greg Jackson's and AKA. They were producing a lot of people, but as of late, the last like four years, I think it's American Top Team.
00:12:11.000You're a 135er, and back home you're the only 135er, and maybe you're a world-class guy.
00:12:16.000You come in here, you've got like five 135ers, and three of them might be in the top ten in the UFC. What do you attribute your longevity to and your enthusiasm to?
00:12:26.000Because you've always been a guy who loves fighting and you've always been a guy who, I mean, you've had that enthusiasm for a long time, man.
00:12:36.000Not a lot of things can capture my attention.
00:12:39.000I can't just watch TV, for example, like a football game and sit through the whole thing.
00:16:37.000And those doubts and stuff come in you.
00:16:39.000And also, your insides take a beating.
00:16:41.000When you cut that weight, when you're cutting like 12 pounds and up of water, Your insides take a beating, so you get hit in the stomach and like, whoa, that shit fucking hurt.
00:16:49.000It doesn't hurt like this in practice.
00:19:40.000You know, I remember when Hector was laying people out in Bellator before he came over to the UFC. I mean, I think he fought his prime fights over there, really.
00:26:46.000Have you always had that sense of what's good and what's good in terms of, like, have you always had good timing for sparring?
00:26:53.000Oh, for straight, my most gifted ability that God said here is boxing.
00:26:59.000Since the first day I walked into the boxing ring, maybe like three weeks later was the first time I was like, I will let this guy spar, you know?
00:27:07.000And I remember there was a couple coaches there that didn't know me.
00:27:09.000They were handling already the boxing team for that program.
00:27:12.000And I used to go to the state-sponsored program, which was like $40 for the whole year.
00:27:16.000You had access to the gym three, four hours a day, and it was like perfect.
00:27:20.000You know, it was the best thing that could happen to me.
00:27:22.000So it was a lot of good talent and then we had a couple of national champions come out of the program.
00:27:25.000And I remember my first sparring session sparring, the coach is coming up to me and goes, "Hey man, how many amateur fights you got?" And I go, "No, I've never fought in my life." I go, "What?
00:27:35.000Let's start working with you." And it was like immediate, you know, and I just had like a natural born radar where I could see the punches in slow motion, you know.
00:27:42.000I didn't know at the time how to react to them.
00:27:47.000Trying to get out of the way and it would just work you know and still to this day I have that same radar so I'm that's just a blessing God gave me and also from the ass whoopings my mother used to give me because when the belt would come with a metal buckle and the shoes that that's the first um test of the reflexes you know when I get home like at uh two in the morning I was like 12 13 years old my mom be waiting for me dodge the broom time You've obviously put more work
00:30:15.000My manager talks to me like, I can't get you no fight right now that you want.
00:30:19.000Why don't you just go there a couple weeks, one or two weeks, collect these paychecks, come back and that's it, you know?
00:30:23.000And, uh, the reality shows, like, you go through, like, a parkour, um, kind of obstacles, and then at the end, you gotta aim.
00:30:30.000So, while your heart rate's all up, you'd have to, like, knock down water bottles with a frisbee or a football or something like that.
00:30:36.000But the cool part is that I'm up against Olympic gymnasts, parkour dudes, um, tennis players, soccer players, all types of athletes were just mixed in there, and we're just all competing in this thing.
00:30:49.000I ended up lasting, um, 13 weeks in the show and the show ran for about 15 weeks.
00:30:54.000So I got pretty far deep in it, you know?
00:30:56.000And the coolest thing was that I got to be alone by myself because one of the things is there's no cell phone, there's no TV, there's no music on the show.
00:31:04.000So it's just the interaction of us and outside of that, that's it.
00:31:16.000You know, after a while, it was the best.
00:31:17.000I'd go work out in the nature, be by myself in the mountains or in the beach and just chilling, and you really get to notice yourself.
00:31:24.000And that's why I call it the resurrection, because I thought about, like, all the negative, dumb things that I've done in my life, and just let me eliminate them.
00:31:31.000Whether I like them in my life or not, let me just eliminate that shit.
00:32:55.000And he's walking around like 185, easy, maybe more, and thick, you know, so like, man, there's not a lot of weight there that you can cut off, 30 fucking pounds.
00:33:17.000Dana said that the 165-pound weight class will never happen while he's running the UFC, and he's going to be running it for the next seven years, he said.
00:33:26.000ESPN plus Kevin Lee want to make Rafael Sanchez fight at 165. He's asking them to see if they can make a backroom deal to just both weigh in at 165 instead of 170, just to sort of force it.
00:34:25.000Still, once you have all that money for a few years and then you're dealing with high blood pressure and your fucking panic attacks in the middle of the night.
00:34:33.000They got things for high blood pressure that are pretty good.
00:35:18.000I wonder how hard it's going to be to get weed, because obviously there's someone who's spending some money trying to keep it from being fully legal there.
00:35:44.000So I think when the rules came about legalizing medically marijuana, they said, we're not going to have plants because everybody's going to grow plants.
00:35:51.000And, you know, it's like we can't really charge them because it's legal, you know.
00:35:55.000So that's why I think they did the wax.
00:39:37.000I thought that Robbie was asleep for a second, and then Usman showed it to me, and then I changed my mind, and then Herb Dean came on and talked about it, and I changed my mind again because Herb Dean was saying that what he was concerned with was the way the arm dropped, and that it was a cervical lock.
00:39:52.000Essentially, when you have a bulldog choke, it puts...
00:39:55.000Puts some serious leverage on your neck.
00:39:57.000He's seen guys go out from that and their whole body goes paralyzed.
00:40:01.000He saw a guy where that happened to him.
00:40:19.000Ben Askren said that he let go of the choke a little bit when Herb came over to him because he thought Herb was going to stop it because he thought Robbie was out.
00:40:26.000And he thinks that during that time when he let go, Robbie came back to life.
00:42:53.000It's distasteful right now to a certain point.
00:42:55.000But if you just fast-forward to the guys like me when I was 14 years old watching this sport, now you're looking at the dudes right now doing it.
00:44:40.000When Max Holloway fought Dustin, there was none of that.
00:44:43.000There was just two guys who were the best in their weight class.
00:44:46.000I mean, Max is the best 145-pounder ever, and Dustin Poirier is absolutely one of the best 155-pounders alive, and they're going to go after it.
00:44:58.000Shaking hands, full respect, before and after.
00:45:02.000And I get a lot of people like, they have that I hate you syndrome going into a fight, so they don't want to shake hands, like, fuck you, I don't like you, you know?
00:45:10.000But when they're giving so much attention to that WWF stuff and pushing you to the forefront, that I don't really like, you know?
00:45:19.000And just to think that the kids watching it are going to be even worse.
00:45:23.000They're going to do it to the next power, you know?
00:46:18.000Everybody watching this back home from Miami was like, you should have punched him as soon as he asked you a question while you're in your interview.
00:46:25.000If you're getting interviewed and some fucking idiot comes here and cuts your interview off, you should get punches slapped upside your head.
00:46:33.000That'll teach you respect, not to do it to nobody else again.
00:46:35.000I should have immediately done it, but I didn't.
00:50:17.000Even the ones that were, like, Till fans would say, like, a funny joke to me or something cool, but it wasn't, like, that weird, bad energy, you know?
00:50:24.000Even if they were Till fans, just be like, oh...
00:50:26.000My boy Till's gonna get you, but it'd be funny and how they say cheeky.
00:51:23.000And to have Kelvin land the first big shot early on and drop Stylebender and show him some real adversity and let him know, hey man, you get knocked the fuck out in this fight.
00:51:32.000You know, that was a real awesome moment, man.
00:51:46.000The thing that really rocked Stylebender was a fucking head kick from Calvin.
00:51:50.000I thought Calvin would press him up against the cage, maybe get a takedown, but just definitely keep him up against the cage and work him there with his wrestling background.
00:52:18.000He's smart and creative and just has a broad encyclopedia of, first of all, striking knowledge, but obviously when he went to the ground, he knew what the fuck to do, man.
00:54:19.000Yeah, once people start using Apple TV and connect through that and get the app through Apple or use Android or whatever the fuck they use to get online, it'll be normal to have that on your TV in five years.
01:02:01.000I don't think Askren's even yet to get a win in the UFC. I just think about it like, if I had fought Robbie Lawler, which was a great champion and has done amazing things in the sport since the start of Robbie till now, the guy's still fighting, man.
01:02:16.000I remember watching him in the UFC back in the day, knocking out Tiki.
01:02:30.000It looked amazing physically when he hoisted Askren up the air and dumped him on his head and then started just driving his fucking knuckles through his brain.
01:04:08.000If you're going to fight Joel Romero, one of your teammates might come over to you and tell you, hey, man, I think you should fake the injury.
01:05:55.000But when Yoel hurt him, he really fucking hurt him.
01:05:58.000And there was no moments like that for Whitaker where he had Yoel staggered and almost out.
01:06:03.000Whitaker's a fucking beast, though, man.
01:06:05.000Super intelligent dude, I think, when he fights, man.
01:06:08.000Him and Stylebender's gonna be very unusual, because that's a big step up to go from Stylebender to go from the very first fight in the UFC, which was only like a year and a half ago, all the way up to Robert Whitaker in a year and a half.
01:07:23.000But I think at 145, he's almost unstoppable.
01:07:26.000Yeah, I don't even know how he makes 145. I don't know how he makes it either, but when he gets down there, man, he's just something special.
01:07:33.000It doesn't seem to diminish him in his performance.
01:07:36.000I'll give you a look at his performance against Ortega.
01:09:39.000I think he's the youngest gold medalist ever in at least American history.
01:09:44.000I don't know if all wrestling history.
01:09:45.000So I remember watching him work and I was like, man, that dude one day will do something big in the sport if he commits to it the way he did the wrestling.
01:09:52.000And sure enough, he's done fucking huge things, you know?
01:09:54.000Well, the way he took out TJ, I definitely thought it was an early stoppage, but I definitely thought TJ was fucked.
01:10:02.000And if Cejudo, if they just let it go for another 10-15 seconds, he might have shut the lights out on TJ. We don't know.
01:10:08.000But the fact that he just staggered him and just came out right off the bat and just started dropping bombs on TJ... I mean, that just shows, and again, backgrounds in wrestling, just shows you what an athlete he is and how quick he learns.
01:10:21.000When he fought Wilson Hayes, and all of a sudden he was fighting like a karate fighter, remember that?
01:10:25.000He was standing sideways, and then he drops, like, blitz right hands on him, like, what the fuck?
01:11:20.000Yeah, because those high-level Thai guys are fucking something else.
01:11:22.000And I think Mighty Mouse is entertaining the idea of having grappling matches over in 1FC. And even maybe possibly kickboxing matches in 1FC. Oh, shit.
01:11:29.000Because you know they do everything over there.
01:13:27.000Apparently, after he got knocked out by Johnny Walker, he got hit with an elbow in the clinch and decided he really needed to work on his clinch game.
01:20:17.000While I was standing still, like, past my friends, hey!
01:20:20.000I slowed down to say what's up, and just, like, some 70-year-old man didn't see that I'm stopped, not moving here, and just fucking hit me into the kneecaps.
01:26:34.000Yeah, because I've had numerous problems with my meniscus, and I was about to go in and get the surgery, and I was asking everybody if I had the same problem, and I was like, fuck it, bro, I'm just going to rehab it out and just do rehab, and I did rehab for like four or five months, and it got better.
01:26:50.000Well, that was last year in 2018. That's what I did a larger part of the year, just heal up injuries that I had, you know, just getting better and better and better.
01:26:57.000So when you say, like, rehab it, what kind of rehab are you doing for your meniscus?
01:27:27.000I got many of diets at all times, though.
01:27:30.000I just kind of, at 55, I used to have to diet so hard.
01:27:34.000Eight to ten weeks, I would have to diet to bring my body to like 173, 174, especially the last three, four years of my career, mixed with a lot of running.
01:27:42.000You know, at 70, I don't have to do that.
01:28:04.000Because I used to do it at 55 because I couldn't gain weight.
01:28:07.000So I just, let's say I went for a run at like 10 o'clock at night, finished at 12, I just get back, drink a shit ton of water, wake up, and then have my meal, you know?
01:28:16.000When I'm in training camp, one thing that I know is I don't like to have a big breakfast before I go train.
01:28:45.000Pineapple, anything with sugar, some coffee and go.
01:28:47.000I don't want my system actually having to dissolve things as I'm already training.
01:28:51.000That's why I'm surprised that you're running late at night and then you're not eating something and then you're going through the entire night with no food and then a light breakfast.
01:29:20.000Then mixing with the stuff that I know works for me.
01:29:23.000I know for a fact, somebody, numerous nutritionists tell me, no, but that's wrong.
01:29:26.000You should just wake up at 6 in the morning, get a meal, and then at 8 in the morning, get another meal, and then by 10 o'clock, you're good to go.
01:29:46.000So if we go to a place to eat, and I've never been there, and you're telling me this is the place right here, this is where you want to eat at, I'm getting everything on the fucking menu.
01:29:54.000It looks, I'll fill this fucking table up, and I'm going to try everything, and I'm going to know what's good at this place.
01:30:00.000I don't like to put restrictions when I eat, but I don't eat like that all day long, you know?
01:30:03.000So my one or two meals that I eat, they're powerful, you know?
01:30:06.000So real light, but when you eat a big meal, you just go hog, and then nothing after 7pm at night?
01:31:00.000And then when those, the, the intermittent fasting diet or the, or the fasting came up and they put the science behind it, I'm like, Oh, no wonder it makes sense to me.
01:31:08.000You know, it's not that I'm a special mutant.
01:31:10.000It's there's a science behind this, you know?
01:32:16.000If I pick one thing, I would say, give me a chin-up bar and kettlebells and I'm good.
01:32:20.000Yeah, and grip, back, and then the sheer coordination of it, you know, pop them up in the air.
01:32:25.000Making the whole body work as one whole unit.
01:32:28.000And when you're tired and you can't fucking not concentrate because every one of those techniques, every one of those lifts has a severe technique behind it.
01:32:37.000And if you fuck up, man, you fuck up your back, your shoulder, you just throw your whole shit off, you know?
01:32:50.000The length of the training session, you know, as in when we're more out from the fight, we'll train for longer periods, two, three hours.
01:32:58.000You know, three hours is always the max, and maybe I'll do that twice in a day.
01:33:01.000You know, when I'm closer to the fight, maybe an hour and a half, tops, tops, two hours, and maybe two of those in a day, you know, and then that's it, you know.
01:33:10.000I'm also 34, so I don't like, uh, not when I was like 26 that I could fucking train 10 hours in one day and wake up the next day like nothing happened, you know.
01:33:19.000So now I just, I also listen to my body like, man, the last session beat me up, I'm going to do a one-hour session now, you know.
01:33:35.000Yeah, people are doing that to see what their heart rate is when they wake up.
01:33:39.000Like if your heart rate's inconsistent, say if you have a resting heart rate of 40 beats per minute, then you wake up one day, it's 47, 48. That might indicate that you're overtrained.
01:33:49.00052, 53 would be a real good indication.
01:33:52.000And you would probably want to either do active recovery that day or just take the day off.
01:33:56.000Maybe even go for a light hike or something like that.
01:33:59.000Maybe I should invest in some of this stuff.
01:34:01.000There's a lot of thought behind that because sometimes people are getting sick and they don't realize it.
01:34:05.000They're just too tough and they just push through it.
01:34:13.000How much sleep are you making sure you get a night?
01:34:16.000For the larger part of my career, because I have sleeping problems really bad, I would sleep like four or five hours and be fucking perfect, man.
01:36:29.00040 pro fighters on the mat because the main mat and the other main mat are covered in the cages, covered in the square cage where I'm always training at, which fits like another 10 people.
01:36:39.000It's completely covered with pro athletes, you know?
01:36:43.000And that day we have the 11 o'clock to like 12.45 session and then a different session for like either the lighter or the bigger guys will come in at a different session, you know?
01:36:53.000And then we got guys throughout the day doing their individual training.
01:36:58.000How much of your time is spent doing group classes versus how much of it is time individual, specialized stuff, like, say, working on something, a combination of land on till, or, you know, what you're planning for Askren?
01:38:40.000For every martial art, jiu-jitsu, anything.
01:38:42.000Martial arts, sport, you know, you're drilling your free throws or whatever it is.
01:38:46.000You have to just drill it until your body knows how to do it without thinking about it.
01:38:50.000Yeah, that's why when you see guys that just spar too much and all they want to do is spar, like, man, you're decreasing your chances of successing at the thing you're enjoying because you're just not spending enough time focusing on the fundamentals and techniques.
01:40:33.000I've always done ice baths in there throughout my career.
01:40:36.000Thanks to my good friend, Michael Miller, I try to do a lot more, which I still need to do more, you know, a good two, three times a week is when I feel like at my best.
01:40:44.000Sauna, I use it for recovery, you know?
01:40:46.000Especially after, like, a lot of the guests that you've had in your show.
01:40:48.000I've always done the sauna to cut weight.
01:41:08.000After a two-hour wrestling practice or striking practice, and then you go in the sauna because you're, like, heavy, and they want you to work out in there, you feel like shit afterwards.
01:41:27.000But I started thinking about times that I was implementing the sauna a lot in my training regimen to times I wasn't, and I was like, wow, the sauna thing's amazing for everything, you know?
01:41:38.000It's giant for reduction of inflammation.
01:41:40.000There was that study that they did in, was it Norway or Sweden or somewhere, where they said there's a 40% decrease in mortality amongst all causes.
01:42:08.000Anywhere between 170 and 190s where a lot of people have their sauna set.
01:42:12.000But they said that in that hot range for 20 minutes, your body produces so many heat shock proteins that it helps with so many different health problems.
01:42:36.000And then people that hear this, do they doubt it?
01:42:38.000You know, they have one profiter telling you, Joe Rogan telling you, and they had a doctor telling you, you want to cure problems, just go in the sauna.
01:43:09.000Even when I be sucked out, like, man, I feel like fucking shit.
01:43:12.000I just lost fucking four or five pounds of water after a practice in the sun and you feel like shit.
01:43:17.000But then I take a bath and then go to sleep, wake up the next day feeling good, you know?
01:43:22.000I put the water back in the system, obviously, but I would just feel good.
01:43:25.000And I didn't quite know why this is happening, you know?
01:43:30.000Like, let's say I got kicked in my elbow.
01:43:31.000My elbow would blow up and then for some reason that day I had fucking 45 minutes of in the sauna because that's when my coaches thought I needed.
01:43:39.000The swelling would dramatically go down, but I wouldn't attribute it to that.
01:43:41.000I'd just be like, oh shit, that's crazy, bro.
01:43:46.000Well, I'm sure B and Wolverine had something to do with it.
01:43:48.000But the sauna had something to do with it, too.
01:43:51.000Now, as you're getting, you know, you're one of the top contenders in the division now, and as things kind of heat up, are you having to do more media obligations before your big fights now?
01:45:41.000When you have been in the game as long as you have, and have been as successful as you have, you have information that is very valuable to young fighters.
01:45:50.000They can learn shit from you without having to experience a lot of the negative things that you've experienced.
01:45:56.000Some of the mistakes that you've made, some of the things you learned that were positive, you can teach people.
01:46:04.000As fighters get older then retire, all that knowledge just goes away.
01:46:09.000It just gets lost because the fighters either don't become a coach or don't ever write it down or don't do interviews.
01:46:14.000I think a guy like you in particular, because you're a very crafty fighter, you have a lot of valuable information for young people, for young guys coming up.
01:48:03.000Because the more time you put into that craft, eventually whatever is bad will get good if you put the time into it, you know?
01:48:10.000And a lot of people don't like to do that.
01:48:11.000And I think even more nowadays that I see on the mat now with the egos and the social media and like people filming and shit, there's a lot of pro fighters that I see sitting out that don't want to do the wrestling class because a couple wrestling studs just walked in through the door.
01:48:26.000So there's like two types of guys that when I see these All-American and National Champions, I'm like, whoa!
01:48:43.000Me, I'm always hyped for the challenge to push myself to the fucking sheer limit and see what comes out of that.
01:48:50.000So you think a lot of it is just a mentality to embrace struggle and embrace difficult moments and embrace the opportunity to learn and grow?
01:51:05.000I don't know when it's coming out, but it's coming out soon, though, man.
01:51:07.000You should write a book about your experience in music.
01:51:09.000Just going from the backyard fights that people could see on the internet with Kimbo to where you are today, it's pretty fucking incredible.
01:51:30.000That's why I put myself in these tough situations to go with the best wrestler in the workout room, the best striker from the world and just constantly get there because I knew the difference between me and them was only time.
01:51:47.000Maybe God opened up my mind and just gave me the message of just growing up very humble and just fucking wanting certain things that I didn't have and just like, oh, I'm gonna get this.
01:51:56.000But understanding that really just takes work.
01:52:28.000You don't want to get, yeah, you know, I've got 10 pro fights, your first day here and I break your nose, that doesn't do anything, you know?
01:52:34.000But it's just embracing those challenges, whether it be running a mile in six minutes or drilling for two hours long, just two techniques because you're kind of dumb and you fucking got to just do it over and over and over and over.
01:52:47.000I'm glad you're going to put some of this information out.
01:52:49.000I think this is something that, as I was saying, like a guy like you that's been in the game for a long, long time and you've learned a lot about what it takes to become a world-class fighter.
01:52:59.000That information a lot of times just goes away when that fire retires.
01:53:03.000I mean, so many fighters have retired and you don't really know too much about the process or what they learned.
01:53:09.000We got a documentary that's been filming for about three years, but we've had trouble when the UFC sold it to ESPN getting all the rights and things that go associated with dropping a documentary like that.
01:53:19.000And in that documentary, I told them from the start when we were going to do it, if we're going to do it, I want it done right and meaning I want a lot of control over it.
01:53:26.000And I want a lot of training, you know?
01:53:29.000I want a lot of the things that I do in training to get me in shape.
01:53:31.000Some people find it cool, some people won't.
01:53:33.000So in that documentary, there's a lot of just how I straight up train, you know, like a lot of the Cuban mythology that goes behind it from my coaches that are Cuban, what we like to do to prepare for the fight, how we break it down.
01:53:44.000Do you do different shit than people normally see?
01:53:57.000Joel, my coach, which used to train Joel as well, and a lot of the Cuban community, they have a big...
01:54:05.000Especially if they grew up in Cuba, they have that big conspiracy theory like nobody else.
01:54:09.000Whenever I'm hitting pads or anything like that and I'm about to fight somebody, you will never see me do a technique on the pads that I will do in the fight.
01:54:17.000I shouldn't even say this because my coach is going to slap me in the face.
01:54:20.000You will never see me do anything that might resemble anything I do in the fight.
01:54:45.000So the training footage, they don't want that leaking out, you know?
01:54:50.000Most of my career have been like that.
01:54:51.000But for the documentary we opened up on a lot of things that we do for training, from reflexes to ways to recover, how we spar, how I set up the sparring, things like that.
01:55:01.000What kind of shit do you do that's unusual?
01:55:04.000Not unusual, I guess I would say, but I don't know.
01:55:09.000We could do like two hours of boxing, right?
01:56:19.000That's what's coming is coming, you know, that's a beautiful way to look at it Listen brother.
01:56:24.000I'm glad we got together and did this man.
01:56:26.000I appreciate you as a fighter You're an interesting cat and I wish you nothing but the best and I'm very excited to see that fight Try to reach all right Game bread What is it and game bread MMA?
01:56:40.000What is your bread fighter game bread fighter?
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01:56:46.000Oh, is that a three pieces of soda shirt?