The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #76 with Terence Crawford

00:00:01.000 Ladies and gentlemen, one of the best boxers on planet Earth and his trainer, Bo Mack and Terrence Crawford.

00:00:07.000 Gentlemen, thank you very much for coming here.

00:00:09.000 Thank you, man.

00:00:09.000 We're live now.

00:00:10.000 Appreciate it, appreciate it.

00:00:11.000 Hey, man, I'm a big fan of yours.

00:00:13.000 We've talked about you many times on this podcast.

00:00:15.000 I'm a huge fan of the way you switch stances.

00:00:19.000 You know, you switch stances as smooth as anybody ever.

00:00:23.000 Like, you got to go back to Marvin Hagler to find a champ that switched stances like as fluidly as you.

00:00:29.000 It's pretty impressive stuff, man.

00:00:30.000 Have you always been doing that?

00:00:32.000 A lot of practice.

00:00:33.000 Yeah, since I was little, I remember getting in trouble because I used to always switch and my coach used to always say, you need to worry about fighting the one style first and perfecting that before you try to switch and do a different style.

00:00:48.000 But I'll always switch, so it got to the point where it was just like, alright, well, you're going to fight like that, we're going to train like that.

00:00:54.000 Wow, so you forced it through.

00:00:56.000 Right.

00:00:57.000 Wow.

00:00:58.000 Now, when you first started out, was there anybody that influenced you to switch like that, or was it just something you felt naturally?

00:01:03.000 It was just naturally.

00:01:04.000 Wow.

00:01:05.000 It was just like, alright, this is not working, so I've got to do something else.

00:01:08.000 Just make it more tricky.

00:01:10.000 That's part of what's interesting about watching you fight.

00:01:13.000 Watching you fight is that you can see you trying to figure out what's up.

00:01:18.000 Like first rounds when you fight is one of my favorite things to watch because I see you measuring dudes.

00:01:23.000 I see things happening and you're switching stances and then when you start finding the timing Timing is one of the more fascinating things to watch about boxing.

00:01:33.000 Because a guy who has perfect timing and perfect...

00:01:36.000 When you see a guy make a read and then execute and it's perfect, it's one of the most beautiful things in all of sports.

00:01:42.000 Right, right.

00:01:43.000 It's like you're watching every move and then you're just dissecting them slowly.

00:01:49.000 How do you think, do you think about it, like, when you start a round, a first round of a fight, is it different for every fighter, or do you always want to do that?

00:01:58.000 Do you always want to, like, put him into the computer?

00:02:00.000 No, it's different.

00:02:01.000 It's different.

00:02:01.000 Like, sometimes I just want to go out there and just be like, alright, I'm going to see what this dude got, see if he can take it.

00:02:07.000 Just go right to him.

00:02:07.000 Yeah.

00:02:08.000 And then sometimes I'll just be like, alright, I'm going to take my time and, you know, figure him out, see how fast he is, see, you know, what things he like to do and what he don't like to do, or see if I move this way, his reaction, just certain things.

00:02:27.000 You came to the UFC this weekend, and obviously I love MMA, but one of the things that I love about boxing is when you take away all the elements, you take away wrestling and kicking and all that stuff, you get the highest level of exchanges and punches.

00:02:41.000 And you get to see with guys like you or guys like Canelo or Floyd or the top-level boxers.

00:02:46.000 You get to see what's possible with guys that are training with the best scientific methods and with all the knowledge of all the past fighters.

00:02:54.000 I mean, when you were growing up, what was the fighter that influenced you the most?

00:02:58.000 Well, hands down Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones Jr. You know, I used to...

00:03:05.000 Love watching Roy Jones Jr. I'm pretty sure everybody was a fan of Roy.

00:03:10.000 But set aside Roy, I always watched Floyd Mayweather and Pernell Whitaker.

00:03:16.000 I was too young for Sugar Ray Leonard and them.

00:03:21.000 I'm old enough for that.

00:03:22.000 I was there for the Sugar Ray Leonard days.

00:03:24.000 I was there for Sugar Ray Tommy Hearns, the Sugar Ray Duran.

00:03:28.000 I was there for all that stuff.

00:03:30.000 But I watched everything.

00:03:33.000 When I was young, my coach, Midge Minor, he used to always take me to his house and watch boxing tapes.

00:03:41.000 That was to keep me off the streets and keep me out of trouble until I went to the gym.

00:03:45.000 Is he still around?

00:03:46.000 Nah, he passed. 0.99

00:03:47.000 Damn, he'd probably be like, look at that. 0.99

00:03:49.000 Boy, did that work out. 0.99

00:03:52.000 You know, we talk about an investment in time that worked out tremendously.

00:03:56.000 Yeah, it's always, in our culture, there's a special place for the highest level of boxers.

00:04:01.000 There's a special place of admiration.

00:04:03.000 And I just feel like, with guys like Lomachenko, with guys like you, with Canelo and Triple G, this is a great time for boxing.

00:04:11.000 It's fun to watch, man.

00:04:12.000 There's so many...

00:04:13.000 Earl Spence Jr. There's so many elite boxers right now.

00:04:16.000 It's like a really exciting time.

00:04:18.000 For sure, for sure.

00:04:20.000 Do you recognize your place in history?

00:04:22.000 Do you recognize that you're a special dude?

00:04:24.000 Of course, of course.

00:04:26.000 Like I always tell people when they mention me and Errol Spence, you know, of course I want the fight.

00:04:33.000 I tell everybody that.

00:04:34.000 I always say, with or without him, I'm going to the Hall of Fame.

00:04:39.000 When you look at all the things that I've accomplished in the sport of boxing, People that's in the Hall of Fame didn't even accomplish that.

00:04:48.000 So I just tell people, I don't need him.

00:04:51.000 He really needs me.

00:04:52.000 Well, we need it.

00:04:55.000 Boxing, right?

00:04:55.000 Don't you agree?

00:04:56.000 Yeah, boxing do need that fight. 1.00

00:04:58.000 Boxing needs it.

00:04:59.000 I mean, it's one of the beautiful things about when a Canelo and a Triple G do get together.

00:05:02.000 You see these guys in their respective weight classes that are in their prime.

00:05:06.000 It's fun.

00:05:07.000 That's what everybody wants to see.

00:05:09.000 That's the fight, right?

00:05:10.000 That's what it's all about.

00:05:11.000 You need to stop a whole lot of barbershop conversations.

00:05:14.000 Yes!

00:05:14.000 You need to stop a whole lot of comedy club conversations, barbershop, garage, everywhere.

00:05:20.000 Yeah, that's the fight to make in your weight class right now, right?

00:05:23.000 For sure.

00:05:25.000 What's the hold up?

00:05:27.000 You gotta ask them.

00:05:28.000 Oh, it's them?

00:05:30.000 Well, everybody has to hold out a little bit, right?

00:05:31.000 You get the best deal, right?

00:05:32.000 Yeah, that's cool.

00:05:33.000 You know, it's all about business, but at the same time, my side of the deal is ready whenever.

00:05:43.000 And you can see all the interviews out there, man.

00:05:45.000 You can see where if it's Terrence or myself or Bob or anybody that's affiliated with Tim Crawford, We all say we want to fight.

00:05:57.000 We can have a fight tomorrow, you know, if we wanted to.

00:06:01.000 But we know, realistically, it won't happen.

00:06:04.000 So do you think that he's waiting for the right time marketing-wise, or do you think he's ready for the right time where his skills, he feels like, are able to challenge you?

00:06:14.000 What do you think is the actual hold-up?

00:06:17.000 I think it has something to do with top rank and PBC. Oh, okay.

00:06:22.000 So it's a promoter issue.

00:06:24.000 So it's a financial scramble.

00:06:26.000 I won't say financial because the money will be there if the fight was ever made.

00:06:31.000 I just think it's...

00:06:33.000 Eagles.

00:06:34.000 Yeah.

00:06:35.000 Eagles.

00:06:37.000 So do you think hopefully this is just something that's going to take a little while, but it will eventually come to play?

00:06:42.000 Of course.

00:06:43.000 I think it'll happen.

00:06:45.000 You know, but I think, you know...

00:06:49.000 Me being with top rank is standing in the way of a lot of things happening.

00:06:53.000 That makes sense.

00:06:54.000 That makes sense.

00:06:55.000 It's interesting that boxing promoters work together well at all.

00:06:59.000 Right.

00:06:59.000 Think about it.

00:07:01.000 If the UFC had to work with Bellator and put together some world championship fight, basically, there's so many times you get champion versus champion, they have two different promoters and they have to decide to get together and make this happen.

00:07:11.000 Mm.

00:07:11.000 Who want to get the most of the pot?

00:07:14.000 That's probably what it is.

00:07:15.000 Or what network it's going to be on.

00:07:17.000 If it's going to be on Fox or ESPN and who's going to promote it.

00:07:21.000 It's also like when someone like Floyd Mayweather has done what he's done and sold the kind of pay-per-views that he's sold and achieved this sort of level of financial fame as well.

00:07:33.000 He's famous not just for being the best boxer, but famous for being...

00:07:37.000 Insanely rich.

00:07:38.000 Like, that's part of the fame.

00:07:40.000 Because he promoted.

00:07:40.000 Yes!

00:07:41.000 Because he promoted.

00:07:42.000 Because he figured it out.

00:07:43.000 And a lot of other people are going to probably try to do the same thing as well.

00:07:47.000 Right.

00:07:48.000 That's just not my style.

00:07:49.000 Too busy, right?

00:07:50.000 Too busy.

00:07:51.000 Yeah, man.

00:07:52.000 I mean, you got to just stay busy being Terrence Crawford.

00:07:55.000 You don't want to be promoting. 0.99

00:07:57.000 That seems like a lot of pain in the ass, man. 0.99

00:08:00.000 I'll do all that. 1.00

00:08:01.000 I'll do all the promoting around my mouth and shit. 0.99

00:08:03.000 What about after you're done? 0.99

00:08:04.000 When your career's over, when you retire, do you think you do some promoting then or training?

00:08:08.000 What would you do?

00:08:09.000 No, I'll just be in my gym back at home.

00:08:13.000 My coach got us a gym and just put my time and effort into the kids in the gym and my five kids that I have.

00:08:20.000 Beautiful.

00:08:21.000 Yeah, that's a solid plan. 1.00

00:08:24.000 You don't need to get involved in that promoting shit. 0.98

00:08:27.000 He do get in the gym sometimes and work with the fighters. 0.99

00:08:30.000 Do you?

00:08:31.000 Yeah.

00:08:32.000 Why's that funny?

00:08:33.000 Because it's funny to see him work with them because... 1.00

00:08:37.000 After about two rounds, he'll say, I can't do this shit, man. 1.00

00:08:42.000 Is he not listening? 1.00

00:08:43.000 No, man.

00:08:44.000 It's like you telling him over and over to do one little simple thing and just say, you tell him, keep your right hand up.

00:08:51.000 Right.

00:08:51.000 And then keep going like this.

00:08:53.000 He'll be like...

00:08:54.000 Are you talking about brand new people?

00:08:55.000 Yeah, even boxers that have been boxing for years that they really don't have the fundamentals down to a T. And you're like, dude, you've been boxing too long for you to still be making the same mistake.

00:09:09.000 And it's like, I only can say certain things for so long.

00:09:17.000 And then it's just like, alright, I ain't saying it no more.

00:09:19.000 Well, yeah, your opinion is as valuable as anybody alive. 0.99

00:09:24.000 You're one of the best fucking boxers ever. 0.97

00:09:26.000 You're a beginning boxer, and Terrence Crawford's teaching you something and you're not listening? 1.00

00:09:31.000 They're probably nervous as shit. 1.00

00:09:32.000 Probably! 1.00

00:09:33.000 For sure!

00:09:34.000 For sure.

00:09:35.000 That's crazy that you'd be working with beginners.

00:09:38.000 That must be wild for them.

00:09:39.000 I work with all of them.

00:09:40.000 That's awesome.

00:09:41.000 That's gotta freak them out, though.

00:09:44.000 Especially the ones that's professional.

00:09:46.000 And they be in the gym and I be yelling at them.

00:09:48.000 They be on the mix with Bo Mack. 0.99

00:09:50.000 I come over there and critique them and they be like, shit, here come Bud. 0.99

00:09:55.000 They look at me like, am I doing it right? 0.99

00:09:57.000 Am I doing it right?

00:09:58.000 You know, so I just want everybody to win.

00:10:00.000 I just keep them sharp.

00:10:02.000 Well, when someone has achieved that level, the level that you have, anybody around you that gets a chance to watch you train and be a part of that, that's gigantic to see something like that in the gym.

00:10:13.000 Wouldn't you agree just to see an elite world champion?

00:10:16.000 I mean, for just having him around in the gym when he's not even supposed to be training or...

00:10:23.000 Just being around and the other fighters around is phenomenal because you see this little extra push in the guys.

00:10:29.000 Sure.

00:10:30.000 Or like he'll come and run with them and I can see the smaller guys trying to get ahead of him.

00:10:38.000 It's cool, man.

00:10:39.000 It's cool.

00:10:39.000 It's really cool.

00:10:40.000 Yeah that's uh do you think about that how much you're inspiring guys?

00:10:45.000 Of course all the time that's why I come to the gym when Bomek be like man just take a rest just relax. 1.00

00:10:52.000 I come to the gym and work out when you know I don't have nothing coming up just so I can show them like even though I'm the champion of the world I still work extra hard to make sure I stay champion because it's harder To keep the championship title than getting there.

00:11:09.000 It's one of the more beautiful things about boxing is there's no shortcuts.

00:11:12.000 None.

00:11:13.000 For the best ever, you have to train. 1.00

00:11:15.000 You have to train hard as fuck. 0.99

00:11:17.000 You just got to do it when you don't want to do it. 0.99

00:11:19.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:11:20.000 You got to do everything you're supposed to do.

00:11:22.000 There's no ifs, ands, or buts. 1.00

00:11:23.000 And if you don't, it'll fuck with your head. 1.00

00:11:24.000 And that's one thing I took from Floyd Mayweather. 1.00

00:11:26.000 You will always see him working out.

00:11:29.000 I don't care if he...

00:11:30.000 Was at a bar.

00:11:32.000 You'll see him running from the bar.

00:11:34.000 He got his little workout clothes in his little TMT van and he just ran home.

00:11:41.000 You'll see him 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:11:43.000 Man, let's go work out.

00:11:45.000 And that's what I admire the most is his work ethic.

00:11:48.000 His work ethic's off the chart.

00:11:50.000 It's the only way you'd be that good.

00:11:52.000 There's no other way.

00:11:53.000 I mean, yeah, he understands boxing at a level that he grew up with it, having his dad and his uncle and all that.

00:11:59.000 The family, so many great boxers around him all the time.

00:12:03.000 But you don't get that good without insane work ethic.

00:12:07.000 There's no shortcuts.

00:12:08.000 No, not at all.

00:12:09.000 I have never seen nobody...

00:12:13.000 Like, put as much work in as Floyd.

00:12:16.000 So that's why, you know, for me, I'm like thinking to myself, I gotta work twice as hard, you know, if I want to get above him.

00:12:27.000 Because I never want to be like anybody.

00:12:29.000 I always want to be myself, but I want to surpass the people that was in front of me.

00:12:34.000 Was it eye-opening when you got to watch him train?

00:12:38.000 Of course.

00:12:39.000 You know, when I was younger, it lets me know that I wasn't working as hard.

00:12:46.000 Yeah.

00:12:46.000 So now when fighters come to my camp or I bring in some sparring partners or some friends that's professional that just want to, you know, come to camp and just experience just being in camp with a world champion, they all say the same thing.

00:13:04.000 Man, I thought I was working hard until I came up here, man.

00:13:06.000 You work too hard.

00:13:08.000 And it ain't for some people because some people, they just be like, I can't do it today.

00:13:13.000 Nah, I'm going to let y'all do them too.

00:13:15.000 I'm going to go to the gym, but I ain't going to do the other stuff.

00:13:17.000 And I just be like, man, come on, man.

00:13:19.000 They're like, man, my body.

00:13:20.000 I'm like, man, see, that's what's going to determine winning and losing.

00:13:24.000 You complaining about your body when you can rest later.

00:13:29.000 Right.

00:13:29.000 What other stuff are you trying to get them to do?

00:13:31.000 I know you do a lot of stair running, right?

00:13:32.000 I do a lot of everything.

00:13:34.000 I do yoga, I do strength and conditioning, I do swimming.

00:13:39.000 Hot yoga too.

00:13:40.000 You do hot yoga?

00:13:41.000 I love that.

00:13:41.000 Hey Joe, I used to do it too, dawg.

00:13:46.000 Listen, man.

00:13:47.000 Everybody can do it.

00:13:48.000 It's just a mixture of, you know, just all-around body working out.

00:13:54.000 What do you find that you get out of yoga?

00:13:57.000 Man, yoga is harder than you think.

00:13:59.000 You know, you in there, you got to control your breathing.

00:14:03.000 You know, just holding your hands in certain positions is tiring.

00:14:08.000 So, them little muscles that you really not using, you know, in a day-to-day, Yeah, it helps with a bunch of things.

00:14:32.000 It's just interesting that more fighters don't adopt it.

00:14:35.000 I think anything that makes your body more flexible and increases your range of motion and then gives you strength.

00:14:42.000 It feels like when I do yoga, all the connecting stuff, like the shoulders and hips and knees, all that gets this extra stability workout that you don't really get from a lot of other things.

00:14:52.000 I feel like it connects everything together good.

00:14:54.000 And it helps you prevent injuries.

00:14:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:58.000 Now, speaking of that, what do you do in terms of recovery?

00:15:01.000 Do you do ice baths or sauna and massage? 1.00

00:15:05.000 What kind of shit do you do? 1.00

00:15:06.000 Massaging. 1.00

00:15:07.000 I don't like the cold.

00:15:09.000 You don't like the cold?

00:15:11.000 I normally take Epsom salt baths and just get massages.

00:15:15.000 That's a grown up in Nebraska thing though, right?

00:15:18.000 What's that?

00:15:19.000 Cold.

00:15:20.000 Yeah.

00:15:21.000 It's cold in Nebraska, but I'm used to that cold.

00:15:24.000 But I just can't fix myself to get in an ice tub.

00:15:29.000 I never was that type.

00:15:30.000 It's hard.

00:15:31.000 Yeah, it is hard.

00:15:34.000 I'd be like...

00:15:34.000 You pick your poison.

00:15:35.000 Yeah, I'd stick my feet in there and be like, I ain't getting in there.

00:15:39.000 Yeah, it's rough.

00:15:40.000 They'd be like, come on, it's going to help you.

00:15:42.000 All right, it's going to help me next time.

00:15:43.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:15:45.000 Have you ever fucked with cryotherapy? 0.99

00:15:47.000 You ever tried that? 0.99

00:15:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:48.000 I did that one time.

00:15:50.000 That's easier.

00:15:50.000 Yeah, it was cool because it's dry.

00:15:52.000 It's dry and it's only three minutes.

00:15:54.000 Yeah, but that ice bath, I'll do the cryo.

00:15:59.000 The ice bath, nah, I'll be sore.

00:16:02.000 I don't know what the science says.

00:16:03.000 What's better?

00:16:04.000 I've heard both things.

00:16:05.000 I've heard that the ice bath's better because it's prolonged because it's like 15 minutes and I've heard that cryo's better because you...

00:16:11.000 Hit your body with such a high degree of cold that it freaks out and produces these cold shock proteins better.

00:16:18.000 But either one, you do those.

00:16:20.000 You do massage.

00:16:21.000 You do yoga.

00:16:22.000 I know you do strength and conditioning stuff.

00:16:24.000 Watch your Instagram.

00:16:25.000 You got a great Instagram.

00:16:26.000 And your kids are wrestlers, right?

00:16:28.000 Yeah.

00:16:29.000 That's awesome.

00:16:29.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.000 Do you think your kids ever fight MMA? No.

00:16:33.000 Actually, I'm trying to convert them to baseball.

00:16:36.000 Really?

00:16:37.000 Probably in the next year.

00:16:39.000 You know, because it ain't that much money in wrestling.

00:16:42.000 It's true.

00:16:42.000 You know, when you look at the MMA fighters, they ain't making a lot of money.

00:16:47.000 Get beat up like they're getting beat up.

00:16:50.000 Look at Pettis.

00:16:53.000 He broke his feet, right?

00:16:55.000 Yeah, it looked like he broke one of his ankles, maybe, or at least hurt it.

00:16:59.000 I'm pretty sure he didn't make over $300,000 for that fight.

00:17:04.000 I'd like to know.

00:17:05.000 See if we find out how much Anthony Pettis made for that fight.

00:17:08.000 He broke his foot for sure?

00:17:09.000 Yes.

00:17:09.000 Oh yeah, he was walking around or being pushed around in a wheelchair today on Instagram.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, it's rough.

00:17:14.000 You see people get kneed, kicked in the face, teeth.

00:17:17.000 Do you look at it as being more brutal than boxing?

00:17:21.000 Yeah.

00:17:22.000 You take more risk in UFC. Boxing, more head injuries, but UFC more risk.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, for sure for injuries, right? 0.99

00:17:34.000 Broken bones and ankles and knees and shit. 0.96

00:17:37.000 Yeah, and I just think it ain't worth all that. 0.96

00:17:41.000 Boxing ain't worth a lot of things too because you seeing people die in the ring and it ain't worth your life at the end of the day.

00:17:49.000 When you decide to hang it up, how will you know when?

00:17:55.000 Well, me personally, I won't think I'll ever know when, but I just got a date and an age like, all right, you know, middle 30s.

00:18:05.000 How old are you now?

00:18:06.000 I'll be 32 next month.

00:18:08.000 So you're close.

00:18:09.000 Close.

00:18:10.000 So you have it in your head.

00:18:11.000 Just go out on top.

00:18:13.000 Like, Marvin Hagler was one of the only ones to ever do it.

00:18:16.000 He went out on top.

00:18:17.000 Another switch hitter. 0.98

00:18:18.000 Marvin Hagler was the only one out of all the greats who lost that fight.

00:18:22.000 Controversial loss to Sugar Ray Leonard. 0.99

00:18:23.000 Like, fuck this. 1.00

00:18:24.000 I'm done. 1.00

00:18:25.000 Just walked away.

00:18:27.000 Nope.

00:18:28.000 Never.

00:18:28.000 Never came back.

00:18:30.000 His last fight was Ray Litton, wasn't it?

00:18:31.000 Yep.

00:18:32.000 Yep.

00:18:32.000 That was it.

00:18:33.000 Controversial loss to Leonard.

00:18:34.000 Became a movie star in Italy.

00:18:36.000 You ever seen his movies in Italy?

00:18:37.000 No, I just know you.

00:18:38.000 Want to watch some clips?

00:18:40.000 It's hilarious. 0.96

00:18:41.000 You can pull up Marvin Hagler fucking people up. 0.99

00:18:43.000 He's like a movie star. 0.99

00:18:45.000 He does these crazy Italian movies.

00:18:48.000 What is this?

00:18:48.000 This is how much he made.

00:18:49.000 $155,000.

00:18:50.000 Wow.

00:18:51.000 Another $155,000 if he won.

00:18:53.000 So Diaz made a flat $250,000 for the win.

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:58.000 They used to, before the Reebok deal, they used to make much more than that.

00:19:02.000 Way more for sponsorships.

00:19:03.000 Yeah.

00:19:03.000 Because I got a buddy, Mursa Bechtit.

00:19:07.000 Yeah, I know that guy.

00:19:08.000 He's really good.

00:19:09.000 Very talented.

00:19:09.000 Oh, is he?

00:19:10.000 Oh, okay.

00:19:10.000 Cool.

00:19:11.000 He's from Bosnia, but he lives in Lincoln, Nebraska.

00:19:15.000 Oh, okay.

00:19:16.000 You know, real good friends.

00:19:18.000 Real good friends.

00:19:19.000 Talented kid.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, and they just always say, alright, well, we get paid for this if we win, this for showing up, this if we get best knockout of the day.

00:19:29.000 Whatever.

00:19:29.000 This is Marvin Hagler as an action hero.

00:19:36.000 And this is, like, not far after the fight with Indio 2, because there was a lot of shit that was unresolved after Indio 1. He was... 0.86

00:19:47.000 I've never seen that before.

00:19:49.000 Oh, these are spaghetti westerns, but for, you know, whatever year this...

00:19:53.000 Marvin Haggard shooting everybody.

00:19:55.000 This is hilarious.

00:19:56.000 So can he speak the language?

00:19:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:58.000 Apparently he speaks Italian.

00:20:00.000 And, you know, he's a star over there.

00:20:02.000 Wow.

00:20:03.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.000 Look at him.

00:20:08.000 Body shot.

00:20:09.000 But he just decided, like, I don't want to box anymore.

00:20:12.000 I'm done.

00:20:14.000 That's good for him, though.

00:20:16.000 He don't gotta get punched in the head no more.

00:20:19.000 He speaks perfect.

00:20:20.000 When you hear him speak today, they do...

00:20:22.000 Have you met him?

00:20:23.000 Never.

00:20:24.000 I'd love to.

00:20:25.000 Yeah, I'd like to meet that guy.

00:20:26.000 He was my hero when I was a kid.

00:20:28.000 I remember there was a video of him.

00:20:30.000 He was training for a Mustafa Ham show, and he's running down Cape Cod in the winter with a hoodie on, just screaming, war!

00:20:37.000 War!

00:20:38.000 All the cold coming out of his mouth, the steam, and he's running.

00:20:41.000 I was like, oh my god.

00:20:43.000 Because I was doing martial arts back then, and I was watching him going like, that's the ultimate champion.

00:20:49.000 That's a champion that puts himself in a terrible place, puts himself down on the cape in the wintertime to do all his training in the cold.

00:20:56.000 He runs in the cold, and he runs in combat boots too.

00:20:59.000 He ran in combat boots. 1.00

00:21:01.000 He was hard as fuck. 1.00

00:21:03.000 And he just had crazy work ethic. 1.00

00:21:05.000 Crazy work ethic.

00:21:07.000 And I remember whenever I would think about being lazy, I would think of him running down the beach going, Roar!

00:21:14.000 Just shadow punching in the beach.

00:21:17.000 Roar!

00:21:18.000 It's crazy that you say that, because I remember when we was little, we used to always run in the cold.

00:21:25.000 I mean, it'd be so cold where the snot is freezing up, you tearing up, but as you get older, you'd be like, man, I ain't about to run in that cold.

00:21:34.000 I don't know.

00:21:35.000 I ran on the treadmill.

00:21:36.000 Well, you already know.

00:21:39.000 You already know you know how to fight.

00:21:41.000 You already know how to persevere.

00:21:43.000 You already know you're a champion.

00:21:44.000 You already know you're at the top of the game.

00:21:45.000 You don't have to prove that to yourself anymore.

00:21:47.000 You know how tough you are.

00:21:48.000 No, no.

00:21:48.000 It'd be times that I'd just be like, all right, we need that hardcore work.

00:21:56.000 Let's go.

00:21:57.000 Everybody'd be like, what?

00:21:58.000 We ain't going to Y? No, we're going to...

00:22:00.000 Man, one time, one time...

00:22:03.000 We ran right after Thanksgiving dinner.

00:22:06.000 Oh, no.

00:22:06.000 Right after?

00:22:07.000 Right after Thanksgiving dinner.

00:22:09.000 Everybody's stuffed.

00:22:10.000 I don't get out there.

00:22:11.000 I just get in the truck.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, let's go.

00:22:14.000 Come on.

00:22:15.000 Everybody's like, what?

00:22:16.000 What?

00:22:17.000 So, he made Thanksgiving dinner.

00:22:21.000 And we're in training camp.

00:22:22.000 So, you know, we all got a little weight and stuff.

00:22:25.000 And Paul made all this food.

00:22:27.000 Man, we all grubbing and stuff.

00:22:29.000 And then, so, I'm eating.

00:22:31.000 After I get done eating, I'm like, Man, I'm stuffed.

00:22:35.000 I'm like, man, I can't wake up this heavy.

00:22:37.000 I was like, man, everybody, let's get it ready to go and run.

00:22:40.000 And everybody looking at me laying down like, man, it's cold.

00:22:43.000 You for real?

00:22:44.000 So we running with these little flashlights.

00:22:48.000 Oh, man, like hiker lights.

00:22:50.000 Yeah, where you go fishing and stuff.

00:22:51.000 So we all running.

00:22:53.000 Everybody hunking.

00:22:54.000 Doo-doo. 1.00

00:22:56.000 It's at night.

00:22:57.000 It was pretty chill.

00:22:59.000 Wow. 0.99

00:22:59.000 Yeah, but that kind of shit, like what Floyd Mayweather does, that 2 o'clock in the morning workout routine. 0.99

00:23:05.000 It's good to just throw monkey wrenches into your sense of what you should be doing and when. 0.99

00:23:10.000 Be ready to do it always.

00:23:13.000 That's why that cold weather running is big.

00:23:16.000 Cold weather running.

00:23:17.000 Those people that live in cold climates that run in the winter, man, that's a hardy breed of human.

00:23:23.000 That's not a regular person that decides.

00:23:25.000 Nobody's got a gun to your head.

00:23:27.000 It's not your job. 1.00

00:23:28.000 You decide to put your fucking running shoes on and lace up and go out there when it's zero. 0.99

00:23:34.000 It's kind of like before I fought AmeriCon and I was down there shadowboxing in the snow in that blizzard. 0.99

00:23:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 I put it on my Instagram.

00:23:47.000 Everybody was like, oh, he training for Spence.

00:23:50.000 We got like 10 inches that day.

00:23:53.000 It was a pleasure.

00:23:56.000 And we actually got knocked off a couple days from leaving for training camp.

00:24:00.000 Wow. 0.99

00:24:01.000 Because there was so much fucking snow, dude. 0.99

00:24:03.000 But there's something about that. 0.99

00:24:04.000 Even you talking about it, you know it's kind of wild.

00:24:07.000 You're out there boxing in the snow, shadowboxing in the middle of a blizzard.

00:24:11.000 Something wild about that.

00:24:12.000 But it's crazy, though, because when it's snowing, it's not that cold.

00:24:16.000 Right.

00:24:16.000 It's true, isn't it?

00:24:17.000 Yeah.

00:24:17.000 It insulates a little bit in some weird way.

00:24:19.000 I was just sitting in the house, and it was just like, man, go outside and do something.

00:24:22.000 So I went outside, ran a little bit, and then I come home, and I was like, Come here.

00:24:27.000 He's like, what?

00:24:29.000 Like, come and record me.

00:24:32.000 Shadowboxing and stuff after I ran.

00:24:33.000 So it was cool.

00:24:34.000 So when I see you doing those stair runs, you do that quite a bit, right?

00:24:39.000 Right.

00:24:39.000 Every Sunday.

00:24:40.000 Where do you do that at?

00:24:41.000 In a Cotteron Springs.

00:24:42.000 You probably won't tell anybody where you go.

00:24:44.000 They know.

00:24:45.000 They know?

00:24:45.000 It's in Cotteron Springs.

00:24:46.000 Oh, okay.

00:24:47.000 That's a famous spot, right?

00:24:48.000 Yeah, Manitou Springs.

00:24:49.000 How many steps is that, that whole thing?

00:24:52.000 Something crazy, right?

00:24:55.000 It's a mile and a half up, I believe.

00:24:56.000 No, it's a mile.

00:24:57.000 A mile up a hill.

00:24:59.000 How long does it take you to get up there?

00:25:00.000 Probably like 35 minutes, 34. That's a fucking horrible run. 0.99

00:25:06.000 You're not running. 1.00

00:25:07.000 We walk up.

00:25:08.000 But some people run it.

00:25:10.000 Oh, you walk it?

00:25:10.000 Yeah, that's...

00:25:12.000 Insane.

00:25:12.000 Them people that be running insane.

00:25:14.000 Because the air getting thinner and thinner as you go.

00:25:17.000 And then the steps.

00:25:18.000 You got some steps that's like this.

00:25:20.000 That's small.

00:25:21.000 And then you got some steps where you got to really reach.

00:25:24.000 Oh.

00:25:25.000 So if you're running and you slip.

00:25:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:25:27.000 That's a fucked up tumble. 0.99

00:25:29.000 Yes, for real. 0.99

00:25:31.000 For real.

00:25:32.000 Yeah.

00:25:33.000 Like, when you up at the top, you feel like you in the clouds sometimes.

00:25:38.000 Like, looking down.

00:25:39.000 Like, the cars is...

00:25:41.000 It's a straight shot.

00:25:42.000 Would you do your training camp up there in Colorado Springs?

00:25:45.000 Right.

00:25:45.000 Just for the altitude?

00:25:46.000 Yeah.

00:25:46.000 I actually got a house up there.

00:25:49.000 Oh, really?

00:25:49.000 You just go back and do it for each camp?

00:25:52.000 What made you decide to do your camps out there?

00:25:54.000 Just to get away from home, you know, clear my head, get away from all the negativity.

00:25:59.000 I've been doing it since 2013. 2013. So do you have a gym set up at the house?

00:26:09.000 Oh, that's nice.

00:26:10.000 I saw Canelo had something like that down in San Diego.

00:26:13.000 There was a thing when he was training for one of his fights.

00:26:15.000 They just rented a house, turned the garage into a boxing ring.

00:26:19.000 So you do that kind of thing?

00:26:20.000 You have it all set up out there?

00:26:21.000 Yeah.

00:26:22.000 A lot of guys do that at Big Bear too, right?

00:26:23.000 Yeah.

00:26:24.000 It's similar to that.

00:26:26.000 Yeah, having that high altitude, is that what you prefer?

00:26:29.000 Like for your wind?

00:26:31.000 Yeah, that helped my win, but at the same time, everything is already set up.

00:26:37.000 Everything from the yoga, to the swimming, to the gym, to everything.

00:26:43.000 It's like a second home to me.

00:26:45.000 So it's not like I gotta go look and find where I'm gonna do this, where I'm gonna do this.

00:26:50.000 It's like everything is everything.

00:26:53.000 My family come up there and visit me.

00:26:56.000 And we get the job done.

00:26:58.000 It's all locked in.

00:26:59.000 Right.

00:27:00.000 Now, when you go up there, who sets your schedule as far as what your daily routine is?

00:27:06.000 I know.

00:27:06.000 You said everything, yoga, everything?

00:27:09.000 Well, it's two more coaches that helps me, Sao Diego and Red Spikes.

00:27:13.000 So we all get together.

00:27:14.000 We make a calendar like a month in advance.

00:27:19.000 Now when you do things like when you add in yoga and swimming, how do you know when to put those in?

00:27:24.000 Well, everything was always, it started off with a trial and error back in 2013. Grab that microphone.

00:27:30.000 Pull it up close to you.

00:27:31.000 There you go.

00:27:32.000 Like I said, it moves all over the place.

00:27:34.000 All right.

00:27:35.000 Like I said, it started with a trial and error.

00:27:38.000 2013, you know, we tried this and we tried that and we started doing this and we started doing that.

00:27:44.000 And then, you know, just look at the fighter and just see if it's working for him, you know?

00:27:50.000 And if it's working for him, you want to stick with it.

00:27:52.000 And then you start adding little small things into it, like the yoga and the swimming, the running, you know, the incline.

00:28:01.000 So after so many amount of years, I think since 13, I mean, he just works like clockwork now.

00:28:08.000 Now, do you monitor in your heart rate, or how do you know, like, do you do any of that stuff while you're training?

00:28:14.000 Nothing?

00:28:14.000 Just go by feel?

00:28:15.000 Yeah.

00:28:17.000 There's two schools of thought, right?

00:28:19.000 The schools of thought is like the old way is the best way. 0.99

00:28:21.000 Like, just do hard shit, chop wood, you know, run, do the standard stuff. 0.98

00:28:26.000 And then there's other people that watch their macros, and, you know, you're smiling. 0.99

00:28:31.000 You're not watching any macros.

00:28:32.000 I know what you're talking about, but we don't do none of that.

00:28:35.000 Yeah, I think we train more or less like the old school way, but we do got some of the new stuff in, like the strength and conditioning.

00:28:41.000 We got the strength and conditioning guy, Jamie Belt.

00:28:44.000 He's excellent.

00:28:46.000 And he kind of adds a little stuff, new modern age stuff into the workouts.

00:28:52.000 Like, sometimes I'll be wanting to do more and he'll be like, no, that was enough for you.

00:28:56.000 Like, you might not think you did enough, but trust me, you'll feel it tomorrow. 0.95

00:29:00.000 But you wake up tomorrow and you're like, God damn, I don't really is sore. 0.75

00:29:04.000 But there's sometimes, like, I'll add in some stuff and just, you know, try to make things different. 0.98

00:29:10.000 He'll look at me saying, nah, but we're not doing that.

00:29:16.000 Because you already be like dead and he be like trying to add extra stuff or he'll be like one more round.

00:29:24.000 All right, come on, one more round. 0.97

00:29:25.000 And then you'll do that one more round and then be like, all right, we got one more round, y'all.

00:29:29.000 You be like, man, I just pushed everything out of that last round because you said that was the last round.

00:29:34.000 Well, come on, baby. 1.00

00:29:35.000 Come on.

00:29:36.000 I'm not about to argue with you so you can be great.

00:29:40.000 So it's like, alright.

00:29:42.000 With a fighter, there's got to be a balancing point, right?

00:29:46.000 You don't want him to do too much.

00:29:48.000 So when that guy told you, that's enough for today, and you want to keep going, that's the natural inclination is to work harder.

00:29:54.000 It's that weird balancing point where you've got to figure out when you're overtraining.

00:29:59.000 Right.

00:29:59.000 So if you're not monitoring your heart rate or anything like that, you just basically, if you have a flat day, you feel flat, you just chill out.

00:30:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:06.000 So just all by feel.

00:30:08.000 Sometimes, Bo always asks me before we go work out, how you feeling?

00:30:11.000 How you feeling?

00:30:12.000 I'm like, I'm good, Bo, I'm good.

00:30:14.000 Or sometimes I'll be like, man, I'm tired.

00:30:17.000 He'll be like, all right, well, we're just going to coast today.

00:30:19.000 Like, if it's sparring day, he'll be like, all right, well, don't be trying to do too much.

00:30:23.000 We're just going to spar, hit the mitts, get out.

00:30:25.000 We ain't going to do no bag.

00:30:26.000 We ain't going to do nothing extra.

00:30:28.000 And then after I do the bag and sparring, I mean, not the bag, but the mitts and spar, I might be feeling good.

00:30:35.000 And I'll be like, man, let's do it.

00:30:36.000 He'll be like, no, you said you weren't feeling good at first.

00:30:39.000 Listen.

00:30:39.000 Come on.

00:30:40.000 Let's go.

00:30:41.000 That's the hardest part, right?

00:30:42.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 To know when to pull it back?

00:30:45.000 Right.

00:30:46.000 Because he knows me.

00:30:47.000 He's been with me since the beginning.

00:30:49.000 So he knows just by looking at me, you know, what type of day I'm having.

00:30:54.000 Like, either in the gym or outside the gym.

00:30:57.000 That's got to be important, isn't it?

00:30:58.000 Like, knowing him from the time when he was younger and just starting out to today?

00:31:02.000 It definitely is, man.

00:31:03.000 It plays a big part in the relationship as far as, like I say, inside the ring and outside the ring.

00:31:09.000 Because, you know, as a trainer, you'll never want your fighter to overtrain.

00:31:13.000 You'll never want him to undertrain.

00:31:16.000 But I'll never have to worry about him undertraining because he's always in the gym.

00:31:21.000 But I do have to worry about him overtraining.

00:31:24.000 Because he's always in the gym.

00:31:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:26.000 Like you said, some days, we're going to pull back this week.

00:31:30.000 Why, man?

00:31:31.000 He's been training already for eight weeks.

00:31:35.000 We've still got one or two more weeks to go before we hit the actual peak point.

00:31:41.000 You know, alright, we'll pull back, you know?

00:31:43.000 And then sometimes you get hard-headed and say, no, come on, man, let me do a little bit more.

00:31:48.000 Alright, do a little bit more, but don't do too much, you know?

00:31:51.000 You ain't got to put your all into it, you know?

00:31:53.000 Just move around a little bit, you know?

00:31:56.000 You got to do basically all fighters like that, especially fighters, good fighters, because most good fighters like Terrence and Other fighters, Jamel Harris, Steve Nelson, you got to pull them guys back.

00:32:10.000 You always got to pull them back because they always want to go, go, go, go, go, go.

00:32:13.000 Because they always got this win in them. 0.99

00:32:15.000 I got to fucking win. 1.00

00:32:16.000 I got to fucking win. 0.99

00:32:17.000 I understand that. 0.99

00:32:19.000 I want you to fucking win too, but I don't want you to break your body down. 0.98

00:32:21.000 I don't want you to do your boxing inside the gym. 0.98

00:32:24.000 You got to have something left when you go to the fight.

00:32:26.000 That's a lesson that's very hard for young guys to learn, right?

00:32:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:30.000 But it's so critical to know where your body is.

00:32:33.000 At this stage of your career, I would imagine you just kind of feel it.

00:32:38.000 When you're in training camp and you're gearing up for a fight, is that how it feels?

00:32:42.000 Like you know where you're at?

00:32:43.000 Like, oh, this is where I'm supposed to be.

00:32:44.000 I feel this right here.

00:32:45.000 This is normal.

00:32:46.000 It's funny, though, because every fight, every single fight before the fight, you know, Bomek always... 1.00

00:32:55.000 Waiting to hear me be like, oh man, I'm ready.

00:32:58.000 I'm ready.

00:32:59.000 Like, sometimes it'd be a week before the fight.

00:33:05.000 Sometimes it'd be two weeks before the fight.

00:33:07.000 But when you hear it, That's what I've been waiting on.

00:33:14.000 It's like, now I'm comfortable.

00:33:16.000 Because, like, sometimes he just be like, he'll look at me.

00:33:20.000 I'll be working and stuff, and then he don't say nothing.

00:33:23.000 But then when I come to him, like, yeah, I'm ready.

00:33:25.000 He be like, he said he ready.

00:33:28.000 He said he ready.

00:33:29.000 You get that from the fighter.

00:33:31.000 Right, right. 1.00

00:33:32.000 Fuck that shit, man. 1.00

00:33:34.000 I'll beat this motherfucker's ass. 1.00

00:33:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:36.000 Well, because you guys know each other so well and you work together so long, you must say, okay, here we are.

00:33:41.000 We're where we're supposed to be.

00:33:43.000 You've been there.

00:33:44.000 It falls right into place.

00:33:45.000 My biggest thing that I always told Bo, ever since I was an amateur, because I remember losing a couple of fights because I didn't train as hard and I got tired and I couldn't really do too much.

00:33:59.000 And I always told Bo, I said, Bo, if I'm in the best shape that I possibly can be in, nobody beat me.

00:34:08.000 Nobody.

00:34:09.000 And then Bo was like, I know. 0.98

00:34:11.000 That's why you need to quit bullshitting. 0.83

00:34:16.000 That's a real friend.

00:34:18.000 That's a real trainer and a real friend.

00:34:20.000 So it just got to the point where I just started training real, real hard.

00:34:25.000 How old were you when this happened?

00:34:27.000 I was a teenager.

00:34:29.000 I just started training not to get tired.

00:34:32.000 If I can go in there and fight and not get tired, I'm going to win.

00:34:36.000 That's what I always said.

00:34:37.000 So the switch flipped.

00:34:38.000 You figured it out.

00:34:40.000 I was losing the people that I shouldn't have lost to.

00:34:43.000 Just head down, just swinging all wild, but they was in shape.

00:34:48.000 And I was trying to be all cute and slick and get tired.

00:34:52.000 Now it's a matter of life and death.

00:34:54.000 Me holding, they pushing me.

00:34:56.000 I'm falling all over the place as a little kid.

00:34:59.000 And I was just like, I'll never get that tired ever again in a fight.

00:35:05.000 It's a important lesson for young fighters to hear.

00:35:06.000 Such an important lesson that there's no shortcut.

00:35:09.000 When you look at a guy like Terrence Crawford, you say, well, that guy must be insanely talented.

00:35:13.000 His timing, his reads on people, the ability to switch stances.

00:35:17.000 You say, well, yeah, how'd that come about?

00:35:20.000 That talent came about through relentless hard work.

00:35:23.000 That's what makes that talent emerge.

00:35:25.000 I'm sure you have an amazing inclination for boxing.

00:35:29.000 Every elite of the elite fighter does.

00:35:31.000 But you don't get to be there without any hard work.

00:35:33.000 It doesn't exist.

00:35:35.000 There's no way.

00:35:36.000 There's no way.

00:35:37.000 That's so important for young fighters to hear.

00:35:38.000 That's what a lot of guys don't see is that hard work in the gym.

00:35:42.000 Yeah.

00:35:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:35:44.000 It's hard work at home.

00:35:45.000 When you look at any top fighter, and you look at all the sacrifices they make just to be where they're at, and you have people taking shots at them and stuff, and they'll be like, man, you don't know what I did.

00:35:59.000 Put my body through to be here today.

00:36:02.000 Or you didn't know what I went through.

00:36:04.000 And it's just like total disrespect for somebody that haven't even stepped foot in the ring to be trying to critique you when they ain't even stepped foot to get punched in the face before.

00:36:15.000 They can never really understand, though, right?

00:36:17.000 No one can ever really understand what it takes to be an elite boxer.

00:36:20.000 The future of your family, the future of yourself, your financial success, and all the people around you is dependent on you navigating the most shark-filled waters in professional sports.

00:36:32.000 A bunch of train killers with their hands.

00:36:35.000 Everybody's real good at knocking other people out with their hands, and you're successfully navigating those waters.

00:36:41.000 No one really understands that other than you.

00:36:43.000 Right.

00:36:43.000 You and all the other people, people on the outside that are close to you kind of get it a little bit.

00:36:49.000 You are the only one who's ever going to be able to understand that. 0.99

00:36:52.000 So all these people talking shit, they might as well be speaking a language they don't even know what the meaning is. 1.00

00:36:56.000 It's nonsense. 1.00

00:36:57.000 They're saying nonsense. 0.72

00:36:58.000 And it's just like you got a bullseye on your head and your back.

00:37:01.000 Because you reverse.

00:37:05.000 First you had your eye on somebody.

00:37:07.000 And you was like, man, I gotta beat this dude.

00:37:09.000 After this dude, I gotta beat this dude.

00:37:11.000 So you was eyeing that person that was in your shoes, you know, that was once champion of the world.

00:37:18.000 Like, I was eyeing Ricky Burns when I was coming up.

00:37:22.000 You know, and after I beat him, now everybody's eyeing me because I'm champ now.

00:37:26.000 So it's no more Ricky Burns.

00:37:28.000 It's Terrence Crawford.

00:37:29.000 We gotta get Terrence Crawford.

00:37:30.000 He's the champ. 0.99

00:37:31.000 So now it's like, damn. 1.00

00:37:34.000 Everybody wants your head. 0.99

00:37:35.000 So now you've got to train even harder to keep the title. 0.99

00:37:38.000 Do you ever have guys show up at your gym, talk shit, like Shannon Briggs style? 0.99

00:37:43.000 Nah, we ain't. 0.99

00:37:44.000 Ain't nobody coming to Omaha, man.

00:37:45.000 Let's go, champ! 1.00

00:37:47.000 Shannon Briggs, if you were his weight class, he would show up at Omaha.

00:37:51.000 No.

00:37:51.000 Let's go, champ!

00:37:56.000 He's hilarious.

00:37:57.000 He would leave Omaha the same way he came in.

00:38:02.000 He and a man got beat up by somebody.

00:38:05.000 You ever see what he did to Vladimir Klitschko?

00:38:07.000 When they cut each other and that?

00:38:08.000 No, when they were...

00:38:09.000 Well, there's a couple times.

00:38:10.000 One, at a restaurant, poured water on his head.

00:38:12.000 And he cut it.

00:38:13.000 He cut himself.

00:38:14.000 Oh, that's right from the broken glass, right?

00:38:15.000 Yeah, he cut himself.

00:38:16.000 But the other time, he was on a wakeboard or on a paddleboard.

00:38:24.000 That's why I think that was staged.

00:38:26.000 Do you think it was staged?

00:38:28.000 I think it was staged.

00:38:28.000 Seems like it was staged.

00:38:29.000 How do you know where this man at every single time he goes somewhere?

00:38:33.000 That's a good point.

00:38:34.000 And then you just so happen to have some good cameras getting the footage.

00:38:38.000 It's true.

00:38:39.000 They want some good cameras.

00:38:40.000 But Shannon wisely would travel with good cameras and then just start making these scenes. 1.00

00:38:46.000 He never fought.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, he did never fight him.

00:38:49.000 I think he fought him when he was younger or something.

00:38:52.000 He knocked him out or something like that.

00:38:53.000 Vitale.

00:38:54.000 Vitale knocked him out.

00:38:55.000 Yeah.

00:38:55.000 He fought the older brother, Vitale.

00:38:58.000 He was a monster. 0.61

00:38:59.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:39:00.000 That's what he fought, right?

00:39:01.000 I believe he fought Vitale.

00:39:02.000 Vitale.

00:39:02.000 That's how you say it.

00:39:03.000 Vitale.

00:39:04.000 That's how you say it.

00:39:05.000 Vitale.

00:39:06.000 That guy had an iron jaw.

00:39:08.000 The brother.

00:39:09.000 Nobody could knock out the brother.

00:39:10.000 It was crazy.

00:39:11.000 That guy would just take bombs.

00:39:12.000 Remember when he fought Lennox Lewis?

00:39:13.000 Yeah, Vitale.

00:39:14.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 Took bombs.

00:39:16.000 I mean, that guy was so goddamn durable. 0.99

00:39:18.000 He would have won that fight if he wouldn't have got that cut. 0.97

00:39:20.000 Giant cut.

00:39:21.000 Yeah, he was winning.

00:39:22.000 What a weird style, too, right?

00:39:24.000 He had one of the most awkward, like, so strange watching him throw punches, but it was effective.

00:39:30.000 He reminded me of Drago off Rocky.

00:39:34.000 A little bit, yeah.

00:39:36.000 That guy's a doctor.

00:39:37.000 He's got a PhD.

00:39:39.000 I think he speaks like five languages.

00:39:42.000 What did they call him?

00:39:43.000 Dr. Ironfist?

00:39:44.000 Wasn't that his name?

00:39:45.000 Yep.

00:39:46.000 What a character.

00:39:47.000 It's interesting, too.

00:39:48.000 The heavyweight division has now become the focal point of boxing again.

00:39:51.000 It's very exciting.

00:39:52.000 That's good. 0.97

00:39:53.000 Yeah, for a long time, Vladimir Klitschko was the heavyweight champion of the world, and for whatever reason, nobody gave a fuck. 0.96

00:39:59.000 It was weird. 0.69

00:40:01.000 Because he was dominating for all those years.

00:40:03.000 He was jabbing clutch.

00:40:05.000 Jabbing clutch.

00:40:06.000 I think it's because we didn't have the American champion.

00:40:09.000 Yeah.

00:40:09.000 For sure.

00:40:10.000 So everybody was like, ah, forget it.

00:40:12.000 That probably has something to do with it.

00:40:14.000 But if he was fighting, like if he was fighting the way Deontay Wilder does, who cares if he's from the moon?

00:40:20.000 Right.

00:40:21.000 Starching people like that.

00:40:22.000 We want to see that guy fight. 0.99

00:40:24.000 You don't care if that guy's from fucking Brazil or wherever he's from. 0.99

00:40:27.000 When he's laying that right hand, it's goodnight. 1.00

00:40:30.000 God damn! 1.00

00:40:31.000 It's one of those punches where people just go... 1.00

00:40:34.000 You see people in the audience going...

00:40:35.000 God!

00:40:38.000 He hits hard.

00:40:39.000 Even when he don't fully extend, it'd be like...

00:40:41.000 The crazy thing is when he fought Tyson Fury, he was 209. 209. That's nothing.

00:40:49.000 And he punches so fucking hard. 0.99

00:40:51.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:40:53.000 That dude is an anomaly.

00:40:54.000 The fact that he won a bronze medal in the Olympics three years after taking up boxing.

00:40:58.000 Right.

00:40:59.000 It's insane.

00:41:01.000 It's just insane.

00:41:02.000 Yeah.

00:41:03.000 Because a lot of people, they asked me, because we was in the same trials in 2007. And it was like, do you ever remember Deontay Wilder and the amateurs?

00:41:15.000 I said, man, he came out of nowhere cracking people.

00:41:18.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 I said, man, he never went on none of the duels or nothing.

00:41:27.000 He just came out of nowhere.

00:41:30.000 He's all the top guys in the heavyweight division.

00:41:33.000 Crazy. 0.55

00:41:36.000 He's a unicorn, you know? 0.98

00:41:38.000 When you look at his record, what is it like?

00:41:41.000 39 knockouts out of 41 fights?

00:41:43.000 Is it something like that?

00:41:44.000 40 knockouts.

00:41:44.000 40 knockouts out of 41 fights?

00:41:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:48.000 39. Yeah, only two fights.

00:41:51.000 What is it?

00:41:52.000 The first one, was it Brazil?

00:41:54.000 No, no.

00:41:54.000 Brazil, he just knocked out.

00:41:56.000 Who went the distance?

00:41:58.000 Stiverne.

00:41:59.000 Stiverne went the distance in their first fight.

00:42:01.000 Stiverne.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, and then he flatlined him in the second fight.

00:42:04.000 That crazy one.

00:42:05.000 Dude, he hits dudes.

00:42:06.000 They go flying, man.

00:42:09.000 People go flying.

00:42:10.000 He got the right last name.

00:42:12.000 Because he get wilded in the blood.

00:42:16.000 And once he gets wild, he starts.

00:42:18.000 How about that interview?

00:42:20.000 To this day! 0.99

00:42:21.000 The dude interview him was like, shit, what did I do? 1.00

00:42:24.000 What the fuck did I do? 1.00

00:42:27.000 And then he uses hashtag till this day. 0.99

00:42:29.000 He uses that all the time on his Instagram, so that guy gets shell-shocked.

00:42:33.000 He gets PTSD every time he reads hashtag till this day.

00:42:37.000 He's like, no!

00:42:38.000 It's funny, though, because we all be saying that now.

00:42:42.000 We be like, to this day, I ain't going back to that store.

00:42:46.000 To this day!

00:42:47.000 So everybody just...

00:42:49.000 Yeah, he took that phrase over.

00:42:51.000 That was a phrase that he just owned.

00:42:54.000 He took it over.

00:42:55.000 That's his now.

00:42:56.000 Oh, that's his.

00:42:56.000 That's his.

00:42:57.000 100%.

00:42:57.000 To this day, that's his.

00:42:58.000 One interview.

00:42:59.000 To this day.

00:43:00.000 One interview.

00:43:01.000 One interview before a fight.

00:43:03.000 He's getting geared up.

00:43:04.000 But you see the look?

00:43:05.000 Oh, my God.

00:43:06.000 He's terrifying.

00:43:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:43:09.000 It's fucking terrifying. 1.00

00:43:11.000 When you know how hard that guy hits and he's mad at you, you're like, shit! 1.00

00:43:14.000 This motherfucker about to knock me out. 1.00

00:43:15.000 Even if you know for sure, 100%, he would never do that. 1.00

00:43:18.000 It's like, you're in the room with a lion.

00:43:20.000 Like, oh no.

00:43:21.000 And he's aggressive.

00:43:22.000 Please, Mr. Lion.

00:43:24.000 Oh, you sure this thing's trained?

00:43:25.000 You sure it's not going to eat me?

00:43:27.000 He's so...

00:43:28.000 Dude, that must have been terrifying.

00:43:37.000 Please blink.

00:43:38.000 He is fully geared up and ready for war before this fight.

00:43:44.000 That is hilarious.

00:43:46.000 That is hilarious.

00:43:47.000 So this whole division now, if you look at the heavyweight division between Andy Ruiz who just beats Anthony Joshua, and then they're going to try to figure out...

00:43:55.000 They were going to try to do that in Saudi Arabia, but apparently Andy's like, eh, we're going to fight in America.

00:44:01.000 He should have took it.

00:44:02.000 In Saudi Arabia?

00:44:04.000 A big money fight.

00:44:05.000 I'm sure.

00:44:05.000 Well, they're still going to do it.

00:44:07.000 They just...

00:44:08.000 Arguing over where it takes place.

00:44:09.000 So Saudi Arabia, is it off the table now?

00:44:10.000 I don't know.

00:44:12.000 Who knows, man?

00:44:13.000 I mean, you guys know better than me.

00:44:14.000 It's a lot of gamesmanship, right?

00:44:16.000 Like what you were talking about before.

00:44:17.000 Ego and stuff.

00:44:18.000 Same kind of deal, I'm sure, as the Errol Spence Jr. fight.

00:44:20.000 Same kind of deal.

00:44:21.000 They're jockeying to see who could get the...

00:44:23.000 And he's worried about him taking...

00:44:25.000 He's worried about taking some Mexican supplements while he's over in another country that they won't test him.

00:44:30.000 So he should have Vata or some testing that is going to go over there and test the fight.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, that's one of the reasons why people are going to love a dude like Andy Ruiz as a champion.

00:44:44.000 He looks like a regular folk.

00:44:46.000 He's got a lot of extra body fat. 1.00

00:44:49.000 He's a bad motherfucker, but Anthony Joshua looks like he was made in a lab. 0.99

00:44:53.000 He's got a perfect physique. 1.00

00:44:54.000 Man, it's crazy how big that dude got.

00:44:58.000 He's huge.

00:44:58.000 Because, man, he wasn't that big at first.

00:45:00.000 But now he's slimming down.

00:45:02.000 But I think he put on a lot of weight to...

00:45:04.000 You know, Kerry with Valdemir.

00:45:10.000 Klitschko?

00:45:10.000 Klitschko.

00:45:11.000 Is that when he put all the weight on?

00:45:12.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:45:13.000 What kind of testing do they do for that fight?

00:45:17.000 They test you for everything.

00:45:18.000 But do they test you for everything at the weigh-ins?

00:45:21.000 No.

00:45:22.000 See, me?

00:45:23.000 I'm with the Vada...

00:45:26.000 You're in the full testing pool.

00:45:27.000 So they show up at 6 o'clock in the morning, the whole deal.

00:45:29.000 Yeah, they can test me right now if they wanted to.

00:45:32.000 So they might be waiting outside right now.

00:45:33.000 It's cool because I'm good.

00:45:36.000 But when he fought Vladimir and he got all big, would they do any kind of water testing?

00:45:42.000 I don't know what type of contract or what they signed for on their fight contract, but I know me.

00:45:50.000 When I'm in training camp, they come whenever.

00:45:53.000 They'll come.

00:45:54.000 6 o'clock in the morning and turn around and come to 6 o'clock at night if they want to.

00:45:59.000 That's a point of diminishing returns when you get too much muscle, right?

00:46:03.000 It can make you stronger, but that's going to need a lot of oxygen, too.

00:46:08.000 And if your body's not used to it, if this is over the course of a year or two, all of a sudden you've got this extra muscle, like...

00:46:15.000 Are you a fan of guys lifting a lot of weights?

00:46:17.000 No, hell no.

00:46:18.000 Lightweight, yeah.

00:46:20.000 Lightweight just to stay strong.

00:46:21.000 Yeah.

00:46:22.000 Well, I have Evander Holyfield.

00:46:23.000 We're scheduling Evander Holyfield.

00:46:25.000 I'm excited.

00:46:25.000 I'm a huge Evander Holyfield fan.

00:46:27.000 But he was one of the rare guys that put on the mass and moved up from cruiserweight to heavyweight and fucking still never got tired. 0.92

00:46:36.000 I mean, Evander never got tired. 0.90

00:46:38.000 Because he put the work in.

00:46:39.000 Crazy work ethic.

00:46:40.000 And he was a guy that got thick and muscular, but it didn't slow him down.

00:46:44.000 It enhanced him, you know?

00:46:46.000 Especially when you get into, like, the Tyson fights. 0.98

00:46:48.000 Like, that muscle didn't hold impact at all, and he was fucking jacked. 0.96

00:46:52.000 I mean, he was... 0.97

00:46:53.000 In comparison to cruiserweight of Andrew Holyfield, you look at heavyweight of Andrew Holyfield, like the Riddick Bowe fights...

00:46:59.000 Yeah, he did swell up a lot. 0.99

00:47:00.000 Fuck, he was jacked. 1.00

00:47:01.000 He was cut, though. 1.00

00:47:02.000 Yes, chiseled.

00:47:04.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 That's what Joshua should do.

00:47:07.000 Cut down a little bit, chisel up, and get mobile.

00:47:11.000 He's not mobile.

00:47:12.000 This was something that he got mad at Lennox Lewis for saying that he needs to change camps.

00:47:15.000 Do you think that makes sense?

00:47:18.000 Maybe he should sit down with his team and figure out where they went wrong at.

00:47:22.000 I don't think about it.

00:47:23.000 I don't think he should change camps.

00:47:24.000 Everything.

00:47:25.000 The word was that he had gotten knocked out in training.

00:47:28.000 You heard that as well?

00:47:30.000 By Joey. 1.00

00:47:31.000 Well, if Terrence Crawford heard it, shit's got to be real. 0.99

00:47:33.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

00:47:35.000 I'm putting it on Twitter now.

00:47:36.000 I won't say it feels real or fake.

00:47:38.000 I'm just saying I heard it.

00:47:39.000 You heard it, yeah.

00:47:39.000 But you know.

00:47:40.000 Most people heard that.

00:47:41.000 Rumors go around and everybody hears it and it's not even true.

00:47:45.000 That could happen, right? 0.99

00:47:46.000 Like Richard Gere with that gerbil up his ass. 0.99

00:47:47.000 Remember that one? 0.99

00:47:49.000 Do you remember that rumor?

00:47:50.000 I heard that.

00:47:51.000 Everybody heard that, right?

00:47:52.000 You never heard that?

00:47:52.000 He said a gerbil up his head.

00:47:54.000 You heard it, right?

00:47:54.000 Yeah.

00:47:55.000 Tell him the rumor.

00:47:57.000 I just heard the rumor.

00:47:59.000 I don't know why. 1.00

00:47:59.000 When we were kids, there was a rumor that Richard Gere had to go to the hospital to get a gerbil taken out of his ass. 1.00

00:48:06.000 Now, I grew up in the East Coast. 0.99

00:48:08.000 My friend Eddie grew up in California.

00:48:10.000 He heard the same story. 0.99

00:48:12.000 I was like, this is the same goddamn rumor. 0.99

00:48:14.000 Like, how does rumor get across the country with the same age? 0.99

00:48:16.000 Right.

00:48:16.000 No internet.

00:48:17.000 The rumor made it all the way across the country when we were in high school.

00:48:20.000 So was it true or not?

00:48:23.000 I think you get a gerbil out yourself.

00:48:25.000 You don't need to go to a hospital.

00:48:27.000 It's not worth the embarrassment.

00:48:29.000 You'll take some time to go to the store and buy some tweezers.

00:48:32.000 You don't need to go to the hospital.

00:48:34.000 Just get a mirror and some tweezers.

00:48:36.000 We can handle this.

00:48:37.000 We don't need to let everybody know our business.

00:48:39.000 The other one was Rod Stewart.

00:48:41.000 There was a rumor when we were in high school.

00:48:42.000 It was pre-high school.

00:48:44.000 Rod Stewart had swallowed a bunch of jizz and had to go to the hospital and get his stomach pumped. 0.99

00:48:48.000 It was probably some guy who Rod Stewart fucked his girlfriend and he started spreading his ruin. 0.99

00:48:53.000 Rod Stewart, the band guy? 0.98

00:48:54.000 Yeah.

00:48:56.000 Now that probably is true. 0.91

00:49:00.000 I don't think so, because I think, look, when I hosted Fear Factor, we made people drink cum. 0.99

00:49:05.000 They had to drink donkey cum. 0.99

00:49:07.000 You could drink it. 0.99

00:49:08.000 You could drink a lot of it, and you're fine.

00:49:10.000 I don't think you have to go to the hospital.

00:49:12.000 I'd have been like, it's over with.

00:49:13.000 My experience on Fear Factor taught me that I don't believe that Rod Stewart ever had that real problem.

00:49:19.000 Hey, so did you ever do any of those... 1.00

00:49:22.000 I ate some shit. 0.99

00:49:23.000 They wouldn't let me try any of the stunts for insurance purposes. 0.99

00:49:26.000 The insurance doesn't let the host just try it out for fun. 0.97

00:49:29.000 I wanted to drive some of the cars off buildings and shit, but they wouldn't let me. 0.92

00:49:33.000 We had one where they hit a ramp off the top of a building. 0.99

00:49:36.000 They hit a ramp and the ramp flipped the car through the air.

00:49:38.000 And they flew and they landed on these cardboard boxes.

00:49:42.000 They stacked these cardboard boxes up like several stories high.

00:49:45.000 And that's how they would get these cars to land softly.

00:49:48.000 So the car would boom!

00:49:50.000 Hit the cardboard boxes and just slowly sink down.

00:49:53.000 And then they would use a crane, flip the car over, and then they could use that car again.

00:49:58.000 It didn't even get damaged.

00:49:59.000 Wow. 0.99

00:49:59.000 So these people would fly this fucking car up. 0.99

00:50:01.000 It looked like the craziest amusement park ride ever. 0.99

00:50:03.000 And you wanted to do it. 0.99

00:50:04.000 Oh, fuck yeah, I wanted to do it, man. 0.99

00:50:06.000 And I'm like, come on, let me do that one. 1.00

00:50:07.000 It looks easy.

00:50:09.000 I'm like, I'll do it for the promo.

00:50:11.000 Like, come on.

00:50:12.000 I'd be cool with jumping out the plane.

00:50:14.000 Yeah, we didn't do any of that. 0.99

00:50:15.000 But we did have people bungee cord jump off of a fucking helicopter. 0.99

00:50:20.000 That was crazy. 0.99

00:50:21.000 We had people with a cord that was attached to a helicopter.

00:50:24.000 And then they were hooked up to a tree.

00:50:26.000 And they had to unlock themselves from the tree.

00:50:28.000 They had a ring of keys.

00:50:30.000 They had to find the right key in a certain amount of time.

00:50:32.000 And then when they did it, they unlocked and they went flying through the air because they were attached to a bungee cord.

00:50:37.000 And the bungee cord was underneath a helicopter. 0.83

00:50:39.000 And it would go fucking launching them out into the middle of this crazy canyon. 0.94

00:50:42.000 I was like, oh my god. 0.99

00:50:43.000 Someone's going to die.

00:50:44.000 Someone's going to die.

00:50:45.000 This isn't worth it.

00:50:46.000 This job's not worth it.

00:50:47.000 There was a couple times where I thought someone was going to die.

00:50:50.000 Yeah, that's crazy. 1.00

00:50:51.000 Stupid. 1.00

00:50:52.000 Ridiculous. 1.00

00:50:52.000 I'm glad we got through it with nobody getting hurt. 1.00

00:50:55.000 Who all came up with the stunts?

00:50:58.000 There was a bunch of people.

00:50:59.000 They had a whole team.

00:51:00.000 There's teams of people that came up with the eating stunts.

00:51:02.000 There were the B-team stunt guys, and then the A-team stunt guys was the first stunt, and then there was the C, which was like the big championship finale thing. 0.77

00:51:10.000 It's a ridiculous show.

00:51:12.000 That's tough. 0.99

00:51:12.000 I used to watch that show all the time. 0.99

00:51:14.000 All the time.

00:51:16.000 I can't even believe it's real.

00:51:17.000 I watch it to this day.

00:51:18.000 I was like, is that really me?

00:51:20.000 What is that?

00:51:21.000 So long ago.

00:51:22.000 I remember I used to watch Jackass.

00:51:26.000 Jackass is amazing those guys are alive.

00:51:29.000 Steve-O is so healthy. 0.92

00:51:30.000 He's fine.

00:51:31.000 He's talking about making a fourth movie.

00:51:32.000 Oh no!

00:51:35.000 They're rolling that dice.

00:51:36.000 They're rolling that dice.

00:51:37.000 Someone's going to die. 1.00

00:51:38.000 Damn. 1.00

00:51:39.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:51:39.000 I've only seen clips of that. 1.00

00:51:41.000 Johnny Knoxville was a movie star for a while.

00:51:44.000 Right?

00:51:44.000 Is he still doing big movies?

00:51:45.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:51:47.000 He was doing big movies, and then he was still willing to let a bull hit him. 0.97

00:51:52.000 He put a blindfold on and stood in front of a bull, and the bull just fucking launched him through the air. 0.98

00:51:57.000 Blindfolded. 1.00

00:51:57.000 That's just dumb as shit. 1.00

00:51:58.000 That's the dumbest shit. 1.00

00:51:59.000 That's why I called a jackass. 1.00

00:52:00.000 That's why I called a jackass. 1.00

00:52:03.000 It's like, those guys got fucked up, man. 1.00

00:52:06.000 I mean, they're taking some beatings. 1.00

00:52:08.000 Just so we can laugh at them.

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:12.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:52:12.000 See, what you do is control who gets fucked up. 1.00

00:52:16.000 Right. 0.99

00:52:16.000 That's what I like about boxing. 0.99

00:52:18.000 When I watch Boxing Express at the highest level, it's like one guy is controlling who gets fucked up. 0.98

00:52:23.000 You know? 0.99

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:25.000 Whether the other guy likes it or not.

00:52:26.000 Whether the other guy likes it or not. 0.99

00:52:28.000 Who was that Mexican gentleman that you fought recently that was talking a lot of shit and stopped him? 0.99

00:52:33.000 Benavides. 0.99

00:52:34.000 Benavides.

00:52:35.000 That's right.

00:52:35.000 That seemed like a particularly satisfying one for you.

00:52:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:39.000 Because there was a lot of shit talking leading up to that fight. 1.00

00:52:42.000 You talked a lot of shit. 1.00

00:52:43.000 For years. 1.00

00:52:43.000 There's certain times we watch guys talk shit and I go, son, son, slow down. 1.00

00:52:49.000 This is not a good idea. 0.99

00:52:51.000 But it just came out of nowhere.

00:52:54.000 I never said nothing to that dude.

00:52:56.000 Never did nothing to that dude.

00:52:59.000 And he just out the blue, just for years, like, I'm ducking him.

00:53:03.000 I'm like, dude, you went up in weight.

00:53:05.000 I'm at 140. Like, when I was at 135, he was talking about fighting me.

00:53:10.000 He was at 140. I got up to 140. He won a little fight, and then he moved up in weight.

00:53:15.000 And I'm like, dude, you're nobody for me to be worried about.

00:53:20.000 So then it got to the point where he was like, oh, well...

00:53:24.000 They made me an offer to fight you, and you ducked me.

00:53:28.000 So he started telling everybody I ducked them.

00:53:30.000 I've been ducking them since 140. In a press conference, I said, did y'all ever offer me or him to fight each other?

00:53:38.000 And it was like, no.

00:53:40.000 So we didn't come up with that.

00:53:42.000 I was like, well, it don't matter.

00:53:43.000 We're fighting right now.

00:53:45.000 It was a good fight.

00:53:46.000 It was a good fight.

00:53:47.000 It was a good fight, too, to showcase you, particularly the knockout.

00:53:52.000 That was a beautiful combination, man.

00:53:53.000 When you clipped him.

00:53:54.000 Right.

00:53:55.000 And then he gets up and then you put him away. 0.99

00:53:57.000 When you watch a fight like that where you have a guy who talks shit and then you wind up fucking him up, is it ever more satisfying? 0.99

00:54:03.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:54:04.000 Because you seem to enjoy it.

00:54:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:06.000 The best fighters enjoy putting a beating on someone.

00:54:09.000 Of course.

00:54:10.000 Like...

00:54:12.000 Going into the fight, I had to calm my emotions down.

00:54:16.000 Because of the anger?

00:54:18.000 Right, right. 0.70

00:54:18.000 Because I really wanted to hurt that dude. 0.70

00:54:21.000 So going into the fight, I got to keep reminding myself, stay calm, relax, don't go in there and do nothing stupid because this is what he wants you to do. 0.99

00:54:32.000 You've been here before. 0.96

00:54:34.000 There's nothing new.

00:54:35.000 You didn't have people...

00:54:37.000 Talk crazy to you, but not to the level that he did, but you didn't have people talk crazy to you.

00:54:42.000 So that's why when I first got in there, I was being patient, taking my time and just filling him out, you know, because he's long.

00:54:49.000 He's tall.

00:54:50.000 He's long.

00:54:50.000 He got some speed on him, but he's a naturally counter puncher.

00:54:55.000 So it was like I wasn't going to go in there and be careless and get countered because I already knew what he wanted to do.

00:55:02.000 So when you see a guy like that and you're fighting him, what is the strategy?

00:55:07.000 Is this a different strategy than a normal fighter because of the length and the counter-punching ability?

00:55:11.000 So you have to adjust.

00:55:13.000 So what was your plan going in there?

00:55:15.000 Well, see me, I got long arms to be in the division and my height.

00:55:21.000 So I was just like, alright, just pick them apart.

00:55:25.000 And then once you go into your combinations, make sure you throw more than once because you're going to counter that first one properly.

00:55:33.000 And when you watch the fight, you feel like that's exactly what you're preparing for?

00:55:38.000 Right.

00:55:39.000 Now, when you see Errol Spence Jr., does he represent to you one of the best of the up-and-coming guys that are possibly on your radar, at least?

00:55:51.000 I really can't say that.

00:55:53.000 Because, Errol, this is the first real big test that he's up against.

00:55:58.000 Mm-hmm.

00:56:00.000 His last fight was with...

00:56:02.000 Mikey Garcia.

00:56:03.000 That was a good fight.

00:56:04.000 I mean, that was a good test.

00:56:05.000 Mikey's a smaller guy.

00:56:06.000 It's true.

00:56:07.000 You know, Mikey came from, what, 126?

00:56:13.000 He's, what, 5'6"?

00:56:15.000 When you see the two of them at the weigh-ins, you really can see the difference.

00:56:18.000 Right.

00:56:18.000 And the size of Errol.

00:56:20.000 I mean, Errol's ripped, you know.

00:56:22.000 So that's why I say you really can't tell with Mikey Garcia.

00:56:27.000 Don't get me wrong, Mikey's a hell of a fighter, you know, but that was his first fight in the division.

00:56:33.000 He's a smaller guy, he's short, his arms are shorter, Errol taller, longer, bigger, you know, so faster.

00:56:41.000 So I really couldn't see what I was trying to see.

00:56:46.000 So Mikey went up just because it was a big fight, right?

00:56:50.000 Is he going to stay there, do you think?

00:56:51.000 Yes, I believe he's going to fight Danny Garcia.

00:56:54.000 Oh, interesting.

00:56:55.000 There's so many different outlets for boxing now.

00:56:58.000 There's PBC, there's Fox, there's ESPN is putting on high caliber fights now too.

00:57:05.000 It's very interesting.

00:57:06.000 But HBO's out of the game.

00:57:08.000 Doesn't that feel weird?

00:57:09.000 It does, being that that was the go-to channel to watch boxing when I was coming up.

00:57:16.000 Only people you had on Showtime was Mike Tyson.

00:57:18.000 And it was the best commentary crew, too.

00:57:20.000 It was Jim Lampley, Max Kellerman, Roy Jones Jr., or sometimes George Foreman, you know, Larry Merchant, when he was doing it.

00:57:28.000 Yeah, man, Emanuel Stewart.

00:57:29.000 And Harold Letterman would come in between rounds and give you his score. 0.98

00:57:33.000 It was fucking great! 0.98

00:57:34.000 I missed that! 0.99

00:57:35.000 Don't you miss that?

00:57:36.000 I mean, Harold Letterman, rest in peace, he passed away recently.

00:57:39.000 Didn't he?

00:57:40.000 Yeah, yeah, he passed.

00:57:41.000 But I missed that, man. 0.98

00:57:43.000 Jim Lampley was fucking great, and Max Kellerman was great. 0.96

00:57:47.000 It's like, you don't have that, there's not a commentary team like that right now in boxing. 0.98

00:57:52.000 Is there?

00:57:53.000 Am I wrong?

00:57:53.000 No, not to the level of the expertise.

00:57:56.000 Why don't they have those guys go over to one of these streaming services, like DAZN or ESPN or something?

00:58:01.000 It just seems like that's the team, right?

00:58:05.000 Andre Ward.

00:58:06.000 Andre Ward's a fantastic guy.

00:58:08.000 He's coming on here too.

00:58:09.000 I'm excited to have him on.

00:58:11.000 Tim Bradley's coming along pretty good too.

00:58:14.000 Yes.

00:58:14.000 Very good.

00:58:15.000 He looks like he's taking that role of Teddy Atlas.

00:58:19.000 It's like he got all that energy.

00:58:22.000 Yes. 1.00

00:58:23.000 Well, Teddy's a fucking... 1.00

00:58:24.000 What a character that guy is. 1.00

00:58:26.000 You know?

00:58:27.000 Hey, Teddy.

00:58:29.000 He's amazing.

00:58:30.000 We're firing!

00:58:32.000 We run to the fire!

00:58:37.000 I'd rather get out there and fight. 0.98

00:58:39.000 I'm just getting fucking scared. 0.98

00:58:42.000 It's funny how he'll say on air, these judges need to be fired. 1.00

00:58:47.000 Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

00:58:48.000 What fight are they looking at? 1.00

00:58:49.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

00:58:50.000 He gets so furious at bad decisions. 0.99

00:58:52.000 And he's right.

00:58:53.000 He's right sometimes.

00:58:54.000 He was wrong about that Jeff Warren fight.

00:58:57.000 The Jeff Warren Pacquiao fight?

00:58:58.000 Is that when he freaked out?

00:59:00.000 Yeah, that's when he freaked out.

00:59:03.000 When I first watched it, listening to the commentary, I was like, man, Pacquiao, whooping him.

00:59:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:59:10.000 Why they cheat him?

00:59:13.000 Because I wanted to fight Pacquiao because I was the next in line to fight the champion.

00:59:17.000 So, of course, I'm rooting for Pacquiao to win because that's a bigger fight.

00:59:21.000 But after watching the fight again, I was like, they not saying nothing about all them shots Jeff Horn was hitting Pacquiao with.

00:59:28.000 And he was just brutally bullying them, roughing them up.

00:59:32.000 They can say, oh, he was being dirty, sometimes he's a headbutt, but it's a fight.

00:59:36.000 That's going to happen.

00:59:38.000 But he was real life manhandling Pacquiao, pushing them all around.

00:59:43.000 And you see Keith Thurman couldn't even do that.

00:59:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:59:47.000 Seeing him beat Keith Thurman at 40 years old, like, God damn, this guy's great. 0.65

00:59:53.000 I mean, just look at his career with eight different weight classes, world titles in? 0.97

00:59:58.000 Eight.

00:59:58.000 Eight different weight classes.

01:00:00.000 40 years old, beats Keith Thurman.

01:00:03.000 Who's in his prime.

01:00:04.000 Right.

01:00:04.000 Crazy.

01:00:05.000 I mean, what a man.

01:00:07.000 I mean, what a world champion.

01:00:09.000 Well, he sure turned back the hands of time on that one. 0.99

01:00:11.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99

01:00:12.000 And he fought in spurts. 1.00

01:00:14.000 Both of them fought in spurts.

01:00:16.000 And I thought Keefe was going to pick up on it, but Pacquiao was only fighting the end of the round.

01:00:21.000 Like, Keefe would come on strong at the beginning of the round, and they would be like, alright, Keefe winning.

01:00:28.000 Winning this round.

01:00:29.000 And then Pacquiao would just be like, Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.

01:00:32.000 And then Keith would be like...

01:00:33.000 Like, aw, man.

01:00:35.000 I hadn't even seen the fight. 0.99

01:00:36.000 Well, when he dropped him with that right hook early in the first, you're like, oh, shit. 0.99

01:00:40.000 It's like a right jab. 0.99

01:00:42.000 Yeah.

01:00:43.000 No, it was like he jumped in with the left and then followed by like a straight right.

01:00:49.000 It's crazy.

01:00:49.000 Yeah.

01:00:50.000 It was crazy.

01:00:51.000 It's like, wow.

01:00:52.000 He went over the shoulder.

01:00:53.000 Yep.

01:00:53.000 That's his punch.

01:00:54.000 Yep.

01:00:54.000 They were showing him hitting other fighters with it the same thing.

01:00:58.000 Well, boom, boom.

01:00:59.000 He has such a unique style.

01:01:02.000 Leaping in, firing shots. 1.00

01:01:03.000 When would you have dated if he came in with that shit on you? 1.00

01:01:06.000 Oh, check. 1.00

01:01:07.000 Boom, boom.

01:01:07.000 Oh, man.

01:01:14.000 Nah, but I take my hat off to Pacquiao.

01:01:18.000 Do you think it's possible that you could get a crack at him now?

01:01:21.000 Because now he's in the hunt right now.

01:01:25.000 I wouldn't say so, because I was in the mentions and talked to fight Pacquiao since 2014, and we was in the same promotional company, and they couldn't make it happen.

01:01:38.000 Do you think it's because he's not interested in it?

01:01:40.000 I don't think he was interested in it because his coach mentioned numerous times he didn't want him to fight me.

01:01:48.000 And he wanted him to stay away from me.

01:01:51.000 So I don't think they was interested.

01:01:54.000 Yeah, well, I could see that at this stage of his career. 1.00

01:01:58.000 But, you know, Keith Thurman is a fucking murderous puncher. 1.00

01:02:01.000 Right. 0.99

01:02:01.000 Which was one of the reasons why it's more impressive that he beat him. 0.99

01:02:04.000 And so who are they talking about Pacquiao matching up with next?

01:02:07.000 He's chasing the Mayweather.

01:02:08.000 Of course!

01:02:10.000 Why not?

01:02:11.000 Floyd, come on!

01:02:12.000 I know you love money.

01:02:14.000 He was saying that he thinks Floyd's out of money already, because he says Floyd spends so much money, he's probably already out of it.

01:02:19.000 Well, he's spending money, too.

01:02:20.000 I think Pacquiao spends more money than Floyd on everybody else.

01:02:23.000 Oh, that's right, because he's got like 50 people that he just has supported.

01:02:27.000 He's an interesting guy, man, because he's so friendly.

01:02:32.000 Even when people are trash-talking, he's smiling, and then he gets in that ring. 0.98

01:02:36.000 kick your ass later different fucking dude once he steps through that rope there's a whole different set of rules he's flying with like keep Thurman talking about how you gonna crucify him and stuff like that and he's just like ooh don't say that yeah and got crucified yeah I wish you the best good luck in the fight good luck good luck in the fight he's a killer Did you know that about Pacquiao? 0.99

01:03:00.000 No, I didn't. 1.00

01:03:00.000 Like, world class. 1.00

01:03:02.000 Like, he could play pool professionally.

01:03:05.000 Me too.

01:03:05.000 Really?

01:03:06.000 Yeah, I'll be too.

01:03:06.000 You could play?

01:03:07.000 Oh, we gotta play in that.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, I heard you got your little personal mistakes.

01:03:10.000 I'm pretty good.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:11.000 You good?

01:03:12.000 Yeah.

01:03:12.000 Okay, what do you play?

01:03:14.000 Whatever you want to play.

01:03:15.000 You play like nine ball, ten ball?

01:03:16.000 Whatever.

01:03:17.000 Okay, we'll play.

01:03:17.000 Cool.

01:03:18.000 Hey, so, if I leave...

01:03:22.000 Five balls on the table, you owe me. 0.99

01:03:25.000 Five of your balls on the table. 0.99

01:03:26.000 If you leave five balls on the table. 0.93

01:03:27.000 What are we playing, eight ball?

01:03:29.000 That's nonsense.

01:03:30.000 That's a nonsense game. 0.99

01:03:32.000 Eight ball, that's a silly game. 1.00

01:03:33.000 You're trying to get me to leave my balls on the table? 0.98

01:03:36.000 Why would I do that? 1.00

01:03:36.000 No, I'm saying, if I win, and you still got five balls on your table, five of your balls. 1.00

01:03:45.000 If you...

01:03:46.000 You got seven balls if you're playing eight ball.

01:03:48.000 So the only way that I went...

01:03:51.000 Explain what you're saying? 0.97

01:03:52.000 Okay, so you got seven balls to start. 0.98

01:03:56.000 If I beat you and you still got five of your balls on the table, then you owe. 0.98

01:04:01.000 Owe what? 0.99

01:04:02.000 So you mean if you break and run out and I don't get a shot?

01:04:06.000 No, that's seven ball then.

01:04:07.000 If you get all the balls?

01:04:09.000 Yeah, that's seven ball.

01:04:10.000 If I have five balls left and you win?

01:04:12.000 Yeah.

01:04:14.000 What kind of weird game is that?

01:04:16.000 You didn't get it.

01:04:17.000 I'm not getting it.

01:04:18.000 So if I win and you still got five balls on the table...

01:04:22.000 Okay, then what happens?

01:04:23.000 You owe.

01:04:23.000 I owe what?

01:04:24.000 Whatever.

01:04:25.000 But if we play nine ball or ten ball, you can't win if there's five balls left from the table.

01:04:29.000 No, no, no.

01:04:29.000 Nine ball and ten ball, that's different.

01:04:31.000 But that's what we're saying.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:32.000 So you're saying like play eight ball.

01:04:34.000 But I don't like playing that because that's tricky.

01:04:37.000 Yeah, it's tricky.

01:04:37.000 You have to play.

01:04:38.000 That's the strategy.

01:04:38.000 You have to play.

01:04:40.000 That's a strategy.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:41.000 You gotta learn how to get out.

01:04:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:43.000 I'll hit all of them and miss the last one.

01:04:45.000 We can play eight ball, though.

01:04:46.000 That's so cool.

01:04:47.000 I like eight ball.

01:04:48.000 It's okay.

01:04:48.000 But it's a simpler game.

01:04:49.000 And you pop me for the last shot.

01:04:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:04:51.000 Leave you hanging. 0.99

01:04:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:52.000 You fuck up. 1.00

01:04:53.000 Leave that ten ball wobbling in the hole. 1.00

01:04:55.000 Yeah, like you done did all this for nothing.

01:04:57.000 I've done that before.

01:04:57.000 It's very heartbreaking.

01:04:59.000 It's very heartbreaking.

01:05:00.000 It's the worst way to lose a game.

01:05:01.000 I swear.

01:05:02.000 It's like...

01:05:04.000 All that for nothing.

01:05:05.000 And the guy, thank you for cleaning it up.

01:05:07.000 Now let me win.

01:05:08.000 That's a game that no one wants to lose to a girl. 1.00

01:05:11.000 Like, it's hilarious watching dudes play pool against women when women are good. 0.97

01:05:14.000 They panic.

01:05:15.000 They start getting nervous.

01:05:16.000 Like, there's something about losing to a girl. 1.00

01:05:18.000 It's almost like getting your ass kicked by a girl. 1.00

01:05:20.000 Some of them cold. 1.00

01:05:22.000 I done seen some girls at the pool hall. 1.00

01:05:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:26.000 Taking a lot of money.

01:05:28.000 Oh, for sure.

01:05:28.000 Yeah, there's like elite women players.

01:05:31.000 You know what I do to eliminate that?

01:05:33.000 What?

01:05:34.000 I just be like, nah, I'm going to let y'all play.

01:05:37.000 Especially when you're watching them and then they try to, hey, I got next.

01:05:40.000 I'm going to be like, yeah, y'all can play.

01:05:42.000 Because it ain't for me to be getting washed up by no female. 0.99

01:05:46.000 Well, any professional.

01:05:48.000 I've played a lot of professionals because it's one of the weird sports.

01:05:51.000 You can enter into a tournament, and you could be a guy who has a full-time job, and you might wind up matching up with Efren Reyes, who's the greatest player of all time.

01:06:00.000 You might meet him in the first round of a tournament.

01:06:03.000 All you have to do is pay your fee, and then you pay your entry fee.

01:06:06.000 You join in just like everybody else, and you're playing like a world champ, like the Terrence Crawford of Poole.

01:06:10.000 I'm like, whoa!

01:06:11.000 And you can just be some regular dude playing Efren Reyes.

01:06:13.000 But it's cool.

01:06:14.000 You can be like, man, I lost to one of the greatest.

01:06:17.000 Lost to one of the greatest of all time.

01:06:18.000 Yeah, I've played a bunch of great players.

01:06:20.000 I played Mike Siegel before.

01:06:21.000 I got to play a bunch of great players. 1.00

01:06:24.000 Get my ass kicked by him. 1.00

01:06:25.000 You a professional pool player? 1.00

01:06:26.000 No.

01:06:27.000 No, I'm quite a bit below.

01:06:29.000 If you had Manny Pacquiao, he could play professional.

01:06:32.000 He would beat me.

01:06:34.000 I'm like one notch below that.

01:06:36.000 I'm probably like a notch below that.

01:06:38.000 Two notch below that.

01:06:39.000 But Manny like plays in tournaments.

01:06:41.000 He gambles.

01:06:42.000 They call him, unfortunately, they call him the cow because they're always milking him.

01:06:48.000 Because he's real high-level pool players, man.

01:06:51.000 Man, he's too busy with running the country. 1.00

01:06:54.000 I mean, he's a fucking senator. 0.99

01:06:55.000 On top of that, he's one of the best boxers in the world. 1.00

01:06:57.000 And on top of that, he's got a family.

01:06:59.000 He doesn't have time to be at the pool hall 10 hours a day.

01:07:01.000 All those psychopaths that are like world champions, they play pool 8-10 hours a day.

01:07:05.000 Yeah.

01:07:06.000 They play all day long.

01:07:08.000 All day long.

01:07:08.000 You go there, you'll find them.

01:07:09.000 That's where they're at.

01:07:10.000 You say you go there, you'll find them. 1.00

01:07:12.000 They're there every fucking day. 0.99

01:07:13.000 Everybody that I know that's an elite, world-class pool player, like Mika Eminen and these kind of guys, you go there, they're at the goddamn pool hall every day. 1.00

01:07:22.000 No money in that shit, though. 0.99

01:07:23.000 You think there's no money in UFC? There's no money in that shit. 1.00

01:07:26.000 There's a lot of money in poker. 1.00

01:07:29.000 I gotta learn how to play.

01:07:31.000 I know, right?

01:07:32.000 Poker, it seemed like...

01:07:33.000 My friend Anthony Giordano, he used to direct those poker shows.

01:07:37.000 He said what changed it is when you had the TV shows, you could see the person's hand.

01:07:42.000 So we were all playing.

01:07:44.000 The folks at home could see what I have and they could see what you have, but we didn't know what we have.

01:07:48.000 So they're all in on it.

01:07:50.000 So they're like, how's he gonna play that?

01:07:51.000 How's he gonna play that?

01:07:52.000 So it made it way more interesting than just watching.

01:07:59.000 What?

01:07:59.000 But when you're at home and you watch it on TV, you get to see the hand.

01:08:03.000 And I still don't know how to play.

01:08:04.000 Yeah, I don't know how to play either.

01:08:05.000 But I just be seeing people with their poker face all in.

01:08:08.000 Don't have nothing.

01:08:10.000 And then this dude with a good hand, he just be like...

01:08:14.000 Throw his hand and the dude just be like...

01:08:19.000 Poker face.

01:08:20.000 Right.

01:08:20.000 Take that risk.

01:08:21.000 Oh, man.

01:08:22.000 There's something cool about that, right?

01:08:23.000 Like a bullshitty. 0.97

01:08:24.000 It's bullshitting, you know? 0.51

01:08:26.000 There's something about that, like the hustle.

01:08:28.000 There's the thing about poker that doesn't exist in anything else.

01:08:31.000 It's a psychological hustle.

01:08:32.000 That's why they call it the poker face.

01:08:34.000 Yep.

01:08:34.000 That's a Lady Gaga song, bro.

01:08:37.000 Pop, pop, pop, poker face.

01:08:38.000 Or somebody that's just looking all like, looking all sad, like, I got a bad hand.

01:08:43.000 Knowing you got a good hand.

01:08:44.000 Yep.

01:08:45.000 It's tricky.

01:08:46.000 Then they, hey, you.

01:08:47.000 All in.

01:08:50.000 Okay.

01:08:51.000 Plus, I think those gamblers, when they're around each other all the time, that's all they do is gamble and read signs and check each other out.

01:08:59.000 They probably have a highly tuned sense of someone bullshitting. 0.57

01:09:03.000 Right.

01:09:03.000 Highly tuned.

01:09:04.000 Ooh, there's something going on behind his eyes.

01:09:07.000 But that's why they wear them glasses.

01:09:09.000 Yeah.

01:09:10.000 You know what I've always loved watching, but I'm scared to get good at?

01:09:14.000 It's chess. 1.00

01:09:14.000 It just seems like it would eat your fucking time. 1.00

01:09:18.000 It does. 1.00

01:09:19.000 Do you play?

01:09:20.000 Yeah, I taught him how to play.

01:09:22.000 He taught me and I beat him the same time.

01:09:24.000 Oh, look at you!

01:09:24.000 He flexed up!

01:09:25.000 He flexed up!

01:09:27.000 You beat him at the same day he taught you?

01:09:30.000 Yeah, he just taught me how to move to pieces and I beat him.

01:09:32.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:09:33.000 Yeah.

01:09:34.000 Wow.

01:09:35.000 That's interesting.

01:09:36.000 So we're international, right?

01:09:37.000 So I'm going to confess right now.

01:09:39.000 I'll let this dude beat me. 0.79

01:09:44.000 You're internationally ranked?

01:09:46.000 No, I'm saying we're on an international show, right?

01:09:48.000 The whole world is watching.

01:09:49.000 I'll let this dude beat me. 0.79

01:09:51.000 You let him beat you?

01:09:51.000 Why'd you do that?

01:09:52.000 Because he gets confidence up.

01:09:56.000 But this is how I do it.

01:09:59.000 There's some fights...

01:10:01.000 Well, I want him to play test so he can use his mind, right?

01:10:04.000 So, okay, all right, all right.

01:10:06.000 The whole camp, he's using his mind.

01:10:07.000 He's using his mind.

01:10:08.000 So, I'm like, okay, all right.

01:10:09.000 So, he come out there and he have a great performance.

01:10:11.000 So, I'm like, okay, all right.

01:10:13.000 That's another strategy to try to get him to do better, right?

01:10:17.000 But there's some mornings, I'm going to tell you about this last morning we had...

01:10:25.000 You don't let me beat him.

01:10:26.000 I just beat him.

01:10:27.000 Anytime I really want to win, I win.

01:10:30.000 Come downstairs, right? 1.00

01:10:32.000 So he comes downstairs in his boxers and shit. 1.00

01:10:36.000 With this old Terrence Crawford look. 1.00

01:10:38.000 Looking at everybody like, hey, good morning.

01:10:40.000 Good morning.

01:10:42.000 Let's play.

01:10:44.000 Alright. 1.00

01:10:46.000 I'm kicking his ass, right? 1.00

01:10:48.000 He getting mad. 1.00

01:10:49.000 He getting mad.

01:10:50.000 You can see it in his face, right?

01:10:54.000 So, he started making these different moves.

01:10:55.000 No, man.

01:10:56.000 You can't do that.

01:10:56.000 No, man.

01:10:57.000 Yes, I can.

01:10:58.000 Yes, I can.

01:10:58.000 No, you can't do that, bud.

01:11:00.000 You know you can't do that.

01:11:01.000 After a while, you just got to kind of fear for your life a little bit.

01:11:07.000 No, man.

01:11:09.000 I like being confident with this dude in chess, man.

01:11:12.000 It's funny.

01:11:13.000 It's funny when he's losing, dude.

01:11:14.000 He beat me.

01:11:15.000 He beat me that day.

01:11:16.000 He didn't want to play me again.

01:11:18.000 I was so hot.

01:11:21.000 I can see it in your face right now.

01:11:23.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:24.000 You're counting it.

01:11:24.000 You can see you reliving it.

01:11:26.000 Because he just caught me off guard.

01:11:28.000 It's just like, you know what I mean?

01:11:30.000 Like, I'm coming downstairs to eat some breakfast, and he's talking about, let's play.

01:11:34.000 He got it ready and everything. 0.99

01:11:36.000 So we're going, I'm making stupid. 1.00

01:11:39.000 I'm like, damn, man, I didn't see that. 1.00

01:11:41.000 Like, fuck. 1.00

01:11:41.000 So he went, he wouldn't play me. 1.00

01:11:45.000 But the next times he played me, I whitewashed him.

01:11:48.000 Killed them so bad to where he don't even want to play me no more. 0.99

01:11:52.000 It's funny as shit. 1.00

01:11:53.000 That's one thing that champions have. 0.99

01:11:55.000 All champions.

01:11:56.000 They hate losing any game. 0.99

01:11:58.000 Jordan, they said if you beat him playing pool, he'll fucking hate you. 0.98

01:12:01.000 He didn't want to talk to you. 0.99

01:12:03.000 Until he could beat you again.

01:12:05.000 Until he got you again.

01:12:06.000 See, my thing is, we have a lot of people that want to play the game.

01:12:10.000 Right?

01:12:10.000 So I don't play the game like I used to.

01:12:13.000 I used to play and I used to beat them all.

01:12:15.000 But once my nephew got good, I stopped playing.

01:12:17.000 I'm like, man...

01:12:18.000 You're a game head.

01:12:19.000 I ain't got time to just sit on a game.

01:12:23.000 Like video games, like Xbox?

01:12:25.000 Yeah, like 2K. You can't fuck with those kids. 1.00

01:12:28.000 Those kids that don't have responsibilities, they don't have children, they have nothing but time, they get too good at those goddamn things. 1.00

01:12:34.000 And you would lose your life trying to chase them. 0.99

01:12:38.000 So now it gets to the point where I just watched them play.

01:12:43.000 So we had this dude named Chance in our house.

01:12:47.000 Oh, man.

01:12:48.000 So Chance, we got Shakur, and we got Chucky. 0.97

01:12:54.000 They all like to play, and we got Kenny.

01:12:57.000 So Kenny was playing Chucky.

01:13:00.000 Chucky and Chance was always going at it with each other.

01:13:06.000 Kenny was beating Chucky and he was just rubbing it in his face.

01:13:11.000 You could see how mad he was.

01:13:13.000 This dude, Chucky, he's the one that always be joking around and stuff.

01:13:19.000 It's all fun and games.

01:13:21.000 You could just say, why is you even talking if you not playing?

01:13:26.000 It get so bad in the house, man.

01:13:29.000 You got to put the game up.

01:13:31.000 Do you guys have moments where you don't want them to play games and things like that, like during camp?

01:13:36.000 You just want them dressed?

01:13:38.000 No, no.

01:13:39.000 That's relaxation.

01:13:40.000 Is it relaxing?

01:13:41.000 Yeah.

01:13:41.000 But video games are a little...

01:13:43.000 They get you tense.

01:13:44.000 That's why he took the game.

01:13:45.000 You gotta take the game, man.

01:13:47.000 It gets so intense.

01:13:49.000 People want to fight each other.

01:13:51.000 People get in arguments.

01:13:53.000 One dude will get mad, the other dude will be like, ah, you mad! 0.68

01:13:56.000 Ah, you mad! 1.00

01:13:57.000 You're like, man, shut up, man! 1.00

01:13:59.000 That's why we sparring when we get to the gym, huh? 0.99

01:14:01.000 How about that? 0.99

01:14:03.000 It'd be funny as shit, man. 0.99

01:14:06.000 It can cause problems, too. 0.99

01:14:08.000 Oh, sure.

01:14:08.000 Well, a bunch of competitive dudes all training together, and then you play something competitive that makes you angry if you lose?

01:14:14.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 Recipe for disaster.

01:14:16.000 Right.

01:14:18.000 Hey, they don't care.

01:14:19.000 No.

01:14:19.000 They don't care in the house, man.

01:14:21.000 They just like, whatever.

01:14:22.000 I still want to play.

01:14:23.000 It's like a big daycare.

01:14:25.000 That's basically what it is.

01:14:27.000 It did me.

01:14:28.000 I'm the oldest. 0.93

01:14:30.000 Got to start cussing at them.

01:14:32.000 You can't eat. 0.95

01:14:34.000 Don't you come out your room.

01:14:36.000 Get up here and do these dishes. 1.00

01:14:39.000 Oh, man.

01:14:40.000 It seems like you guys are having a good time.

01:14:42.000 Oh, man.

01:14:43.000 It's fun.

01:14:43.000 That's beautiful.

01:14:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:44.000 It's fun.

01:14:45.000 Camp is fun.

01:14:46.000 Camp is fun.

01:14:46.000 It's hard work and it's hard but at the same time you know Work is work.

01:14:52.000 And then we try to come home and clear our head and not just be so mentally drained over thinking about the fight.

01:15:01.000 Right, right.

01:15:02.000 So we want it to be fun at the end of the day.

01:15:05.000 Do you have a mental coach or is there anybody you've ever worked with that's like where you've tried to do visualization work or formulate a game plan or is it just go out there and get it done?

01:15:17.000 Just get it done.

01:15:18.000 No need.

01:15:19.000 No need.

01:15:20.000 Like, my mental is so strong, like, from what I've overcome and been through in my whole entire life, it's like, nothing's gonna break me.

01:15:32.000 That's my mental.

01:15:33.000 Like, if that couldn't break me, You're not going to break me.

01:15:37.000 You mean in terms of your childhood and growing up?

01:15:41.000 Yeah.

01:15:42.000 Everything that I went through.

01:15:44.000 Irreplaceable.

01:15:45.000 People that have gone through, like Mike Tyson, like many great fighters, have gone through hardship when they're younger.

01:15:52.000 That ability to endure.

01:15:55.000 I wouldn't say when I was younger.

01:15:57.000 It's still going through.

01:15:58.000 Still going through.

01:15:58.000 I still go through a lot.

01:16:00.000 A lot.

01:16:01.000 How so?

01:16:02.000 Like, seemed like before all my big fights, somebody died in my family.

01:16:08.000 You know, like, my grandpa just died the day before yesterday.

01:16:13.000 Sorry to hear that.

01:16:14.000 But I'm here.

01:16:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:16.000 I'm about to go into training camp and prepare for my next fight.

01:16:21.000 So it's just like, things are always happening.

01:16:24.000 But at the same time, I got a job to do.

01:16:28.000 And I'm going to still be focused and nothing's going to distract me.

01:16:33.000 Now, will you go into training camp with a date in mind?

01:16:37.000 Yeah.

01:16:38.000 But nothing's been signed yet, right?

01:16:41.000 Nothing's been signed yet.

01:16:42.000 So, do you just sort of go in and get the wheels moving and then just get ready to ramp up?

01:16:48.000 Like, how do you determine when you ramp up your training camp?

01:16:51.000 Like I say, if you're getting back into training camp now, but you don't know when the fight's going to be scheduled, so how do you approach it in the beginning?

01:16:57.000 No, I don't necessarily say I'm getting in training camp right now because I'm not, like, my training camp is six to seven weeks.

01:17:07.000 So you're getting ready to get into training camp?

01:17:10.000 No, I wouldn't even say that.

01:17:11.000 I'm just saying in general.

01:17:12.000 Okay.

01:17:13.000 But you're not getting ready right now.

01:17:15.000 I stay working out.

01:17:16.000 Of course.

01:17:18.000 Now, when you're not in the gym, but you're not training for a fight, are you still doing all the strength and conditioning stuff and everything as well?

01:17:25.000 Yeah, here and there.

01:17:26.000 Not to the same intensity, but just to keep moving.

01:17:33.000 Right, and so you do that just to make sure that you preserve your body and don't get injured and things along those lines?

01:17:38.000 So when you think of it in terms of camp, that is the roughest experience you're going through, right?

01:17:42.000 You're going through how many?

01:17:43.000 Nine weeks?

01:17:44.000 Is that what you say you prefer?

01:17:45.000 Seven.

01:17:46.000 Seven weeks.

01:17:47.000 Seven weeks?

01:17:47.000 Fair.

01:17:48.000 So those seven weeks is when you're pushing it to the limit, and then everything else is more like a maintaining thing?

01:17:53.000 We like stair steppers.

01:17:55.000 We got a pre-camp, and then once we're in camp, it's like this.

01:17:59.000 Boom.

01:18:01.000 And you know where those steps are?

01:18:03.000 Right.

01:18:03.000 So when we get to the end of camp, we're already at the highest step.

01:18:09.000 So that way, when we go to the fight, we're already at the...

01:18:12.000 And so this is planned out in the amount of rounds you do, the amount of running you do?

01:18:16.000 Every week is something added on every week.

01:18:20.000 If it's four rounds, six rounds, eight rounds, ten, twelve...

01:18:24.000 Minutes, we do minutes.

01:18:26.000 What's amazing about this conversation is if you were a young, up-and-coming boxer in 1982 or something like that and you want to know how Marvin Hagrid did it, there's no podcast.

01:18:36.000 There's no Marvin Hagrid breaking down how he does his training camp and talking all about it.

01:18:40.000 But today, kids can watch you.

01:18:42.000 And they can see what you're doing.

01:18:43.000 And I guarantee just listening to you talk about realizing how hard Floyd worked and you working out, you wanted to work out even harder and all the crazy shit you're doing, like people right now lacing up their shoes right now, getting fired up, running out the door, thinking I got to work like Terrence.

01:18:58.000 I have to, you know?

01:18:59.000 That is one of the coolest things that has to be about being a world champion is that you are the guy now. 0.85

01:19:05.000 You know, when you were a kid, I'm sure you had like those Ring Magazine posters and shit.

01:19:09.000 Like you're that guy now. 0.68

01:19:10.000 Right.

01:19:11.000 That's got to be crazy.

01:19:12.000 Some kid right now who's like six years old, who's just getting into Golden Gloves, and he's looking up at his bedroom wall.

01:19:18.000 Silver gloves.

01:19:19.000 Silver gloves.

01:19:20.000 What is Golden Gloves?

01:19:21.000 Golden Gloves.

01:19:22.000 18?

01:19:23.000 Yeah, when you're a senior.

01:19:24.000 Silver gloves and when you're a junior.

01:19:25.000 Silver gloves.

01:19:26.000 Doesn't sound as good.

01:19:27.000 Yeah.

01:19:28.000 Boxing.

01:19:28.000 Amateur boxing.

01:19:29.000 Kids getting into amateur boxing, they have heroes.

01:19:31.000 You're one of them, man.

01:19:32.000 I mean, that's gotta be a cool feeling.

01:19:34.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:19:35.000 I love it.

01:19:36.000 I love it.

01:19:36.000 When I go to them little smokers or them little national tournaments and see all the little kids run up to me, Terrence Crawford!

01:19:46.000 Terrence Crawford!

01:19:47.000 I'd be like, what up?

01:19:47.000 I'd go grab him.

01:19:48.000 Wow, that's awesome.

01:19:49.000 Grab him by the head, mess around with him.

01:19:52.000 Even after wrestling tournaments, people would be like, yo, you Terrence Crawford?

01:19:56.000 I'd be like, yeah, what's up?

01:19:56.000 What's your name?

01:19:57.000 And they'd be like, dude, man, you real cool.

01:20:00.000 I'd be like, yeah, man, what's up?

01:20:02.000 That's amazing.

01:20:03.000 So they all gravitate to me.

01:20:05.000 Was there someone that you met when you first met him when you were like, I can't even believe that I'm sitting there with Evander Holyfield or someone like that?

01:20:12.000 Someone real famous where you couldn't believe you were actually being around them?

01:20:17.000 I would have to say Roy Jones.

01:20:18.000 Roy Jones.

01:20:19.000 Because I never was like a big fanboy.

01:20:23.000 I would always be like, oh man, they're just humans like me.

01:20:26.000 But when I seen Roy for the first time, I was like, oh, that's Roy Jones Jr. I met Floyd Mayweather.

01:20:37.000 But this Roy Jones Jr., like, it was just crazy.

01:20:40.000 And he was real cool. 0.99

01:20:42.000 And, you know, I was just like, damn. 0.92

01:20:44.000 I didn't want to be, like, all, like, shy. 0.99

01:20:47.000 I was like, damn. 0.90

01:20:48.000 Like, I met Sugar Ray Leonard when I was an amateur, and it didn't feel the same. 0.98

01:20:52.000 It was just like, man, that's Sugar Ray Leonard.

01:20:55.000 Because it was a different era, because you didn't watch him fight.

01:20:59.000 Watching Roy Jones, man, when I was a kid, when he was in his prime, he would lead with a left hook.

01:21:04.000 It was like more than a jab. 0.98

01:21:06.000 He would just whip that left hook at dudes, and they didn't know what the fuck to do with that. 1.00

01:21:10.000 That speed was preposterous. 0.99

01:21:12.000 So fast.

01:21:12.000 Woo!

01:21:13.000 Roy was doing stuff to people that made you just go, wow.

01:21:16.000 He's not even doing the same thing they're doing.

01:21:18.000 He's on another dimension.

01:21:20.000 He's at a different record speed.

01:21:22.000 He was so fast.

01:21:24.000 Max Kellerman had this incredible rant once about just realizing how good Roy Jones was in his prime. 0.98

01:21:30.000 It wasn't like he wasn't around great fighters, but they couldn't do shit to him. 0.98

01:21:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:21:35.000 He was around world champions, but he was lighting them on fire. 0.98

01:21:38.000 It was crazy!

01:21:40.000 And, you know, all good things come to an end.

01:21:42.000 It only lasted for, you know, X amount of years.

01:21:44.000 I mean, what was the best years of his championship reign?

01:21:47.000 But he was untouchable.

01:21:49.000 Untouchable.

01:21:51.000 Untouchable.

01:21:51.000 When he knocked out Virgil Hill with that body shot.

01:21:54.000 You know, you're like, God damn! 1.00

01:21:56.000 One punch. 0.99

01:21:57.000 When he put his hands behind his back and still knocked down James Tony.

01:22:02.000 I mean, when he dropped his hands like this and James Tony does it too and he leaps in and drops them.

01:22:06.000 Yeah, with the left hook.

01:22:07.000 That one dude he knocked out with his hands behind his back.

01:22:10.000 Who was that dude?

01:22:11.000 When he was on the ropes?

01:22:12.000 Yeah.

01:22:13.000 Put his hands behind his back.

01:22:14.000 The dude moves forward and drops him and knocks him out.

01:22:16.000 It's like, this is a movie scene.

01:22:17.000 This isn't real life.

01:22:18.000 No one does that in real life.

01:22:20.000 Roy Jones was having fun with people.

01:22:22.000 Yeah, he was.

01:22:23.000 He was having fun with people.

01:22:23.000 He was entertaining.

01:22:24.000 He was incredible how fast he was.

01:22:28.000 But like, I didn't...

01:22:30.000 Man, I didn't met people like Roy.

01:22:33.000 He's a fan of me.

01:22:35.000 It's amazing.

01:22:36.000 And it's like...

01:22:37.000 Dude!

01:22:39.000 Like...

01:22:40.000 I'd be like, so Starstruck is like, man, I'm a fan of you.

01:22:44.000 And he's a fan of you.

01:22:45.000 You're a fan of me.

01:22:46.000 Wow.

01:22:47.000 Like, today, I was on Instagram, and I was like, I went past LL Cool J because we was listening to some old school music.

01:22:58.000 And I was like, dang, LL got an Instagram.

01:23:01.000 So I clicked on him, and he's following me.

01:23:04.000 I said, bro, look, LL Cool J following me on Instagram.

01:23:12.000 It's just crazy just to think of all the people that you grew up admiring and you a fan of. 1.00

01:23:20.000 For you to see them fan of you, it's like, damn. 0.99

01:23:26.000 Like Iverson. 0.99

01:23:27.000 I met Iverson.

01:23:28.000 Wow.

01:23:29.000 And he came up to me and he was more happy to see me than I was to him. 1.00

01:23:33.000 Terrence Crawford, oh man, you the motherfucker, man. 1.00

01:23:36.000 Wow. 1.00

01:23:36.000 And I was just sitting there looking at him like... 1.00

01:23:39.000 This Allen Iverson, though. 0.99

01:23:44.000 Like, damn. 1.00

01:23:45.000 So it's crazy, like, seeing all those, you know, celebrities and all-time greats that's big fans of mine, and it's like, fuck. 1.00

01:23:53.000 Does it wear off, or do you still freak out? 0.99

01:23:56.000 I still freak out sometimes. 1.00

01:23:57.000 I still freak out sometimes, like, it just depends on the person, like, fuck, like, damn. 1.00

01:24:03.000 Right. 1.00

01:24:03.000 Like Snoop, or someone like that. 1.00

01:24:05.000 Snoop, too.

01:24:06.000 I know. 1.00

01:24:07.000 I met Snoop, and I'll be like, damn, like, fuck. 1.00

01:24:09.000 Like, that's when you know that you made it to a certain level in your professional sports that everybody watching you. 1.00

01:24:17.000 Yeah.

01:24:18.000 Well, you know, that's one more thing that's beautiful about you meeting those little kids is that they can realize, like, oh, Terrence Crawford's a man.

01:24:25.000 Right.

01:24:26.000 He's a man.

01:24:26.000 I mean, he's a superstar, and he's a champion, and I see him on TV, but he's a man.

01:24:31.000 He's right here.

01:24:32.000 He got me in a headlock.

01:24:33.000 Right. 1.00

01:24:33.000 Oh, shit, we're playing together. 1.00

01:24:34.000 He's a nice guy. 1.00

01:24:35.000 Oh, he's a person.

01:24:37.000 Yeah.

01:24:37.000 Because you see someone that's achieved a certain level of status and championship reign and you see them on TV knocking people out.

01:24:44.000 That doesn't even seem like a real person when you're a kid.

01:24:46.000 That can't be a real person.

01:24:48.000 And then you're there.

01:24:49.000 And then you're shaking his hand. 1.00

01:24:50.000 He's like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:24:52.000 This is crazy. 1.00

01:24:52.000 So you change that kid's world. 1.00

01:24:54.000 His idea of what the future is.

01:24:57.000 Idea of what a person is.

01:25:00.000 Terrence Crawford's a person.

01:25:01.000 I'm a person too.

01:25:03.000 I just gotta work hard.

01:25:04.000 And it's crazy because a lot of people...

01:25:07.000 They'll see me and they'll be like, where are your bodyguards at?

01:25:10.000 Where your entourage?

01:25:12.000 Like, they be having questions to ask.

01:25:15.000 And I'll just be like, no, man, I'm a regular person.

01:25:17.000 They be like, man, why you don't be on TV like Floyd Mayweather?

01:25:20.000 Like, man, ain't for me, man.

01:25:21.000 I'm chill.

01:25:22.000 They be like, oh, well, where are your cars?

01:25:24.000 Like, they be just asking me all kinds of crazy stuff.

01:25:27.000 And I just be like, no, man, that's cool.

01:25:29.000 Do you still live where you grew up?

01:25:30.000 Right.

01:25:31.000 Wow.

01:25:32.000 That's crazy.

01:25:33.000 And everybody's cool?

01:25:34.000 Everybody.

01:25:35.000 Nobody gets jealous of the fact that your 10's crossing now?

01:25:37.000 You're always going to have that.

01:25:38.000 Right.

01:25:38.000 No matter where you go.

01:25:39.000 You're always going to have the jealousy and the people that envy you.

01:25:43.000 People want loans.

01:25:44.000 That too.

01:25:45.000 That too.

01:25:47.000 You just gotta move different.

01:25:49.000 Yeah.

01:25:50.000 You just gotta move different.

01:25:52.000 What kind of cars do you ride?

01:25:54.000 I drive old schools.

01:25:56.000 Old schools.

01:25:56.000 Like what kind?

01:25:57.000 I got some Monte Carlo.

01:25:59.000 Oh, that's right.

01:26:01.000 I saw you and looked like a Grand National.

01:26:03.000 Do you have a Grand National?

01:26:04.000 No, it's a Monte Carlo.

01:26:05.000 That's a Monte Carlo.

01:26:06.000 Oh, is it a souped-up Monte Carlo?

01:26:07.000 No, it's all original.

01:26:10.000 I just put the rims on it.

01:26:12.000 The souped-up one is the silver one, the 87. Oh, is that another Monte Carlo?

01:26:16.000 Yeah.

01:26:16.000 Oh, you're a Monte Carlo guy.

01:26:18.000 Yeah.

01:26:18.000 I love Monte Carlos back in the day.

01:26:21.000 Like the 70s, like 70 Monte Carlos.

01:26:23.000 Ooh, those are so pretty.

01:26:24.000 Ain't nothing like the 80s.

01:26:26.000 You like the 80s?

01:26:27.000 87. That's probably because you're younger than me.

01:26:29.000 Super sport.

01:26:30.000 Me, I'm like, I get from muscle cars, I get as high as 71 with a Barracuda and then I drop off.

01:26:35.000 Yeah.

01:26:36.000 Everything else, I need 65 to 70. 71 is only Barracuda and Challenger, that's it.

01:26:43.000 Everything else fell apart by 71. What about the Oldsmobile?

01:26:49.000 They made some cool shit. 0.99

01:26:50.000 They made some cool shit, but it's just not as good as like the 60s. 0.99

01:26:54.000 The 60s and the 1970 cars, like 70 Chevelles. 0.96

01:26:58.000 Yeah, I was just about to say the Chevelle.

01:26:59.000 Come on, 70 Chevelle.

01:27:02.000 The problem with the drop top is they're wiggly.

01:27:06.000 You know, there's a lot of body flex to it where you don't get the rigidity that you feel in like the solid hard top muscle car.

01:27:14.000 Right.

01:27:14.000 You know, but I love those old cars, man.

01:27:16.000 Yeah.

01:27:16.000 They have something to them.

01:27:17.000 Right. 0.84

01:27:18.000 And they cost a shit ton of money.

01:27:22.000 Especially if you get one that's all original and it's everything, the paint still.

01:27:29.000 Like, man, you bought this car to put it in the garage for 30 years.

01:27:32.000 Dude, I saw a Barracuda that was for sale for over a million dollars. 1.00

01:27:36.000 Damn. 0.99

01:27:36.000 A million dollars for a car that was like $30,000. 0.99

01:27:40.000 Not even, right?

01:27:41.000 Didn't we talk about this?

01:27:42.000 Wasn't it like $5,000 when it was brand new?

01:27:44.000 Something crazy like that?

01:27:45.000 Now it's a million dollars.

01:27:47.000 I got it, Jay Leno.

01:27:49.000 I don't know, one of those knuckleheads that likes everything perfect and original.

01:27:52.000 There's certain dudes like, with original numbers matching.

01:27:55.000 Look, the V-E-I-N number matches the tires.

01:27:58.000 These are the original tires from 1960. Got all the paperwork.

01:28:01.000 You better go slow around a corner with those shitty tires. 0.99

01:28:04.000 Everything original means everything's shitty. 1.00

01:28:07.000 You know, shitty drum brakes and shitty suspension and... 0.98

01:28:11.000 I like the shapes. 0.97

01:28:12.000 I used to always get up and watch them car auctions. 0.99

01:28:16.000 Oh yeah, the Meachums, that kind of shit? 0.99

01:28:18.000 Yeah, I love those. 1.00

01:28:19.000 Just to look at the cars. 1.00

01:28:21.000 If you have a ton of money and you're there, that shit could be real bad. 0.97

01:28:24.000 Like if you're one of those dudes that's like a collector and you see all those cars moving by, you're like, I want that one too! 0.98

01:28:29.000 A 55!

01:28:30.000 Oh, a 55 Chevy!

01:28:31.000 Oh my goodness.

01:28:32.000 Yeah, there's some...

01:28:34.000 I mean, I'm just a big fan of those shapes.

01:28:37.000 Those shapes, the 1960 shapes.

01:28:39.000 There's something about the car.

01:28:40.000 They just nailed it.

01:28:41.000 They just knew how to make a car look beautiful back then.

01:28:43.000 And it was built sturdy.

01:28:46.000 Yeah.

01:28:46.000 Like nowadays, you bump a car, you...

01:28:48.000 Big old dent, your bumper falling off.

01:28:51.000 Back then, you can run a car over and...

01:28:54.000 Steal, all steel.

01:28:56.000 Get a little bitty dent and go on about your way.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, it's a different...

01:29:01.000 But also, now cars handle good.

01:29:03.000 They have airbags.

01:29:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:29:05.000 There's some good shit about today's cars, too. 0.99

01:29:08.000 Right. 0.99

01:29:08.000 Try it yourself. 0.99

01:29:09.000 Yeah.

01:29:10.000 Yeah.

01:29:10.000 You ever driven one of those?

01:29:12.000 You ever been in a Tesla?

01:29:14.000 No, we just talked about that.

01:29:16.000 They're freakouts, man.

01:29:17.000 They'll freak you out.

01:29:18.000 You're driving that thing like, oh my God.

01:29:20.000 Have you? 1.00

01:29:20.000 They fast as shit. 1.00

01:29:21.000 It's ridiculous, right? 1.00

01:29:22.000 Did you ever drive one? 0.61

01:29:23.000 Yeah.

01:29:24.000 Dude.

01:29:24.000 The crazy thing about the Teslas is it's like a race car.

01:29:30.000 It's like...

01:29:31.000 And you'd be waiting for it to be like...

01:29:33.000 But it don't never change gears.

01:29:37.000 It's just straight...

01:29:40.000 And all of a sudden it's 150 miles an hour like that.

01:29:43.000 It's so fast it doesn't even make sense.

01:29:45.000 It's like a race car.

01:29:46.000 It's like a time machine.

01:29:48.000 It's like it compresses time.

01:29:49.000 Like there's a certain amount of time in a normal car you feel like you have to go.

01:29:52.000 There's a certain amount of time that has to take place before I can get in front of that guy and then get over here and then get to the on-ramp.

01:29:57.000 With a Tesla you just go, shoom!

01:29:59.000 You're there.

01:30:00.000 It's like time compresses.

01:30:02.000 Zero to 60 in 2.4 seconds. 1.00

01:30:04.000 Damn! 0.99

01:30:04.000 You never even felt anything like it. 0.99

01:30:06.000 It's a goddamn rollercoaster ride. 0.99

01:30:07.000 It's like you're pinned to your seat and it's just going. 1.00

01:30:09.000 You're like, fuck! 1.00

01:30:10.000 And they're making a faster one. 1.00

01:30:12.000 They've got one that's gonna be 1.9.

01:30:13.000 The Roadster, that really slick-looking little tiny one. 0.96

01:30:16.000 They're ridiculous. 0.70

01:30:17.000 That's the future. 0.99

01:30:18.000 Yeah, I got a Demon.

01:30:20.000 A Dodge Demon?

01:30:21.000 Oh, those are nice.

01:30:22.000 Yeah, it's fun. 0.99

01:30:23.000 That's a fun fucking... 0.99

01:30:24.000 What was that, like 800 horsepower? 1.00

01:30:25.000 I think 909. 800. Something crazy.

01:30:29.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:30:30.000 Anything over seven, it's like, what are you doing?

01:30:31.000 They made me sign my rights away.

01:30:32.000 Really?

01:30:33.000 You gotta sign all these papers talking about if you die or seriously get injured and...

01:30:40.000 Can't nobody else come back and sue them. 1.00

01:30:42.000 All kinds of crazy shit. 1.00

01:30:43.000 Wow. 1.00

01:30:43.000 Because the car is so fast. 1.00

01:30:45.000 They letting you know you can get real life fucked up. 0.95

01:30:49.000 Do they make those in a stick shift or is it just an automatic? 0.98

01:30:52.000 I don't know.

01:30:53.000 I got an automatic.

01:30:54.000 It's a crazy amount of power.

01:30:55.000 But I think nowadays you got the handle.

01:30:58.000 Paddle shifters?

01:30:58.000 Yeah, paddle shifters.

01:31:00.000 That's cute.

01:31:00.000 Where you can put manual.

01:31:01.000 But the thing, shifting with your left foot in the clutch and shifting gears to your right, that's like part of the whole muscle car thing.

01:31:07.000 Yeah.

01:31:10.000 Right?

01:31:11.000 Yeah.

01:31:11.000 Part of the old school thing.

01:31:13.000 You don't want an old school automatic. 0.88

01:31:15.000 It seems silly.

01:31:17.000 You know?

01:31:17.000 What you just think?

01:31:18.000 A new school?

01:31:19.000 Yeah.

01:31:21.000 That's true.

01:31:22.000 It's way faster.

01:31:23.000 Oh, it's way faster.

01:31:23.000 Cars today are way faster, period.

01:31:25.000 And they're all going to be electric within 10 years.

01:31:27.000 They're just so much better.

01:31:29.000 They're so much faster.

01:31:30.000 Right.

01:31:31.000 As long as they can figure out how to make it charge quick, that's the thing the gas has.

01:31:35.000 You just pull them to the gas station, 10 minutes later you go to full tank.

01:31:38.000 Right.

01:31:38.000 So your car charges up on the battery?

01:31:41.000 Yeah.

01:31:41.000 How long does it take?

01:31:44.000 It'll take a good solid six or seven hours if it's dead.

01:31:47.000 If it's almost dead, it'll take like six or seven hours.

01:31:50.000 I have a supercharger, too.

01:31:52.000 Normally, it might take 12, like with a regular outlet. 1.00

01:31:56.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:31:56.000 It takes a long time. 1.00

01:31:57.000 Yeah.

01:31:58.000 Yeah, so if you pull into one of those superchargers, I think they can get you up to like 80% in like an hour.

01:32:04.000 It charges the first 80% pretty quick.

01:32:07.000 So you could do that.

01:32:08.000 So it's like pay for gas?

01:32:09.000 Yeah, yeah, you pay for it.

01:32:11.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 Use a credit card and you can pay for it.

01:32:14.000 I've seen them there, but...

01:32:15.000 The airport's free.

01:32:16.000 You can plug in at the airport and it's free.

01:32:19.000 It's a weird experience, man, because I love the sound of engines. 1.00

01:32:23.000 But that car makes them all look stupid. 1.00

01:32:26.000 They all seem dumb. 1.00

01:32:28.000 It does, right? 1.00

01:32:29.000 Yeah, you don't hear that.

01:32:30.000 But it's something...

01:32:31.000 Yeah, I gotta have that muscle.

01:32:35.000 It's fun.

01:32:36.000 Yeah, and once you get into that...

01:32:38.000 You can't burn out in it.

01:32:39.000 Nah, there's no burning out.

01:32:41.000 It just goes.

01:32:42.000 It makes a noise like this.

01:32:45.000 It doesn't make any noise.

01:32:46.000 It doesn't like...

01:32:47.000 There's none of that.

01:32:50.000 It just takes off.

01:32:51.000 Yeah, it doesn't even seem real.

01:32:53.000 I like them.

01:32:54.000 The inside is crazy with the big screen, touch screen.

01:32:58.000 Yeah, no, they're pretty dope. 0.83

01:32:59.000 You just look like you're in the futuristic vehicle.

01:33:01.000 It feels like you're in the futuristic vehicle.

01:33:02.000 What do you spend your money on?

01:33:04.000 Do you have a thing that you indulge in?

01:33:06.000 No, that's...

01:33:07.000 I don't really have no spinning habits, just...

01:33:11.000 That's amazing.

01:33:12.000 Fishing?

01:33:13.000 Yeah, we were talking before the show about bow fishing.

01:33:15.000 You like bow fishing?

01:33:15.000 I love it.

01:33:16.000 I love it.

01:33:17.000 I took on bow fishing one time and I've been hooked.

01:33:21.000 I've been spending money on it.

01:33:23.000 We actually walked in this pond.

01:33:25.000 I bought waders.

01:33:26.000 I got waders and everything.

01:33:28.000 I'm out there in the water, in the little mud and stuff, hitting the little guards and anything I can find.

01:33:42.000 Do you eat guards?

01:33:44.000 You smoke those, right?

01:33:45.000 No, no, no.

01:33:45.000 You can't eat them?

01:33:46.000 No, no, no.

01:33:47.000 We're mainly trying to get the grass carp because they...

01:33:49.000 They're invasive, right?

01:33:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:33:51.000 They try to kill as many of those as they can, right? 0.99

01:33:53.000 Yeah, so it's crazy though, because the Asian carp, we on my boat, we in the river, and this was the other night.

01:34:02.000 We going through this little spot in the river, and they started jumping in the boat.

01:34:07.000 Yeah, that's not weird.

01:34:08.000 Have you ever seen that?

01:34:09.000 Yeah, I've seen it on one of these TV shows. 0.99

01:34:11.000 Fucking crazy. 0.99

01:34:12.000 They knock people out. 1.00

01:34:14.000 They like this big, no lie.

01:34:15.000 Did they say jumping carp?

01:34:17.000 No, Asian carp. 0.99

01:34:18.000 They're like six, seven pounds.

01:34:19.000 And they fly through the air and hit you in the face.

01:34:21.000 Asian carp is different than grass carp.

01:34:22.000 We was shooting grass carp in the pond, but in the river, the Asian carp that I was jumping in my boat was every bit of 30 pounds.

01:34:33.000 And they're hitting people in the head.

01:34:34.000 K.O.ing them. 0.92

01:34:35.000 Flatlining them.

01:34:36.000 So didn't they bring those carbs over to eat up something?

01:34:42.000 Look at these things.

01:34:43.000 These people fly.

01:34:44.000 Boom! 1.00

01:34:45.000 That shit got hit in the back of the head. 1.00

01:34:47.000 Hey, that's how they jump, bro. 1.00

01:34:48.000 Look at these guys who are trying to shoot them while they're flying. 0.99

01:34:50.000 That is so ridiculous. 1.00

01:34:52.000 What a redneck sport. 1.00

01:34:54.000 What a redneck sport. 1.00

01:34:57.000 What kind of fucking fish just throws itself at a boat? 1.00

01:35:01.000 It's so crazy. 1.00

01:35:03.000 Isn't it the sound of the engine that can get them started?

01:35:07.000 Something like that.

01:35:08.000 It's crazy.

01:35:09.000 This will give you a target panic, man.

01:35:11.000 You're not going to get good at shooting a bow and arrow if you're getting hit in the head while you're pulling back your bow.

01:35:15.000 Look at these guys who are just trying to shoot.

01:35:18.000 No one's even pulling the trigger.

01:35:19.000 Oh man, now that's funny.

01:35:21.000 Look at that.

01:35:21.000 Pop!

01:35:22.000 Yeah, look.

01:35:22.000 He just keeps getting hit.

01:35:24.000 Donk! 1.00

01:35:25.000 What a weird fish.

01:35:26.000 That dude just got clipped.

01:35:28.000 Why was he laughing though he got smacked?

01:35:30.000 And he ducked the second one.

01:35:32.000 Look at him.

01:35:33.000 Oh! 0.60

01:35:34.000 Oh, that guy got nailed.

01:35:36.000 Yeah, I'd have a bat.

01:35:38.000 I'd be fishing with a baseball bat.

01:35:39.000 That's how they be, bro.

01:35:40.000 I'm telling you.

01:35:40.000 Or a samurai sword.

01:35:41.000 Hey, them boys get big, too.

01:35:43.000 What part?

01:35:43.000 Where was you at?

01:35:44.000 In the river. 1.00

01:35:45.000 So they're trying to kill as many of those as they can. 1.00

01:35:48.000 They're trying to kill as many of those as they can. 1.00

01:35:49.000 Those things have overpopulated lakes. 1.00

01:35:51.000 Just taken over.

01:35:52.000 I don't know why they brought them in, though, originally.

01:35:54.000 More so of the lakes is grass carp, not Asian carp, you know, and some rivers.

01:36:00.000 That's those big red looking ones, right?

01:36:02.000 Those get huge!

01:36:04.000 You know what's crazy?

01:36:07.000 Buffalo. 1.00

01:36:07.000 In America, we think of them as shit. 1.00

01:36:10.000 There's like trash fish. 1.00

01:36:11.000 But in England, they're prized.

01:36:14.000 Like in England, they have carp fishing contests.

01:36:17.000 And they have certain carps that they catch, and they weigh in, and then they release them, and they catch them again a year later.

01:36:23.000 They know the carp, and they were in world records.

01:36:26.000 Oh, he caught Mr. Fishy again. 0.99

01:36:28.000 Mr. Fishy is now 85 fucking pounds. 0.99

01:36:31.000 They keep catching them year after year until these things die. 0.99

01:36:34.000 And when they die, they make a big deal.

01:36:36.000 We lost this carp. 0.72

01:36:37.000 They take carp fishing super serious, which is so strange, because over here in America, we think of them as trash.

01:36:44.000 They eat everything. 0.90

01:36:45.000 Yeah.

01:36:46.000 When we see the Asians fishing, and whatever they catch, they keep. 1.00

01:36:52.000 Yeah.

01:36:53.000 So it's like the gar, the Asian carp, they eat them up. 1.00

01:36:59.000 Apparently, gar tastes good if you smoke it.

01:37:01.000 That's what I've heard.

01:37:02.000 I've heard you can smoke gar. 1.00

01:37:03.000 Not fucking with it? 1.00

01:37:04.000 Nah. 1.00

01:37:04.000 It's a dinosaur. 1.00

01:37:06.000 It's a weird thing to eat.

01:37:08.000 It's like eating a snack.

01:37:09.000 I didn't shop one just to look at the meat.

01:37:13.000 It's all hard.

01:37:14.000 All them bones.

01:37:15.000 How are you going to clean that thing?

01:37:17.000 Yeah, I saw a guy do it on TV. A guy cooked it on TV. I forget.

01:37:21.000 It was one of those wild game cooking shows where he smoked agar.

01:37:24.000 I can see an alligator guard, like when you go down to Texas or something.

01:37:28.000 Oh, is it a different kind of guard?

01:37:29.000 Yeah, like an alligator guard, them mugs get big.

01:37:31.000 Maybe that's what it is.

01:37:32.000 You know, but the guard that we got, little skinny, little pencil, little things.

01:37:36.000 Oh, so they're tiny.

01:37:38.000 Yeah, they like that big.

01:37:39.000 They long, but they...

01:37:40.000 Yeah, those Texas ones are freakish, man.

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 They don't even look real.

01:37:44.000 Yeah.

01:37:45.000 But listen, man, I'm not going to take up any more of your time.

01:37:47.000 I just want to tell you I'm a big fan.

01:37:48.000 It was an honor having you in here.

01:37:50.000 I really appreciate watching you fight.

01:37:52.000 You're one of my favorites.

01:37:53.000 I think when I talk to people about combat sports, one of the things that I always talk about is the difference between the skill level of an elite boxer, when you see that's all they do, versus in MMA. You see openings in MMA that you would never see in boxing.

01:38:09.000 So I'm happy you're out there, man.

01:38:11.000 I appreciate it.

01:38:12.000 And let us know when your fight is.

01:38:13.000 We'll let everybody know and just alert the world.

01:38:16.000 I'm excited.

01:38:17.000 Of course.

01:38:18.000 Thank you, sir.

01:38:18.000 Thank you.

01:38:19.000 Thank you, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 01, 2011

JRE MMA Show #76 with Terence Crawford

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