The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #84 with Brendan Schaub

00:00:00.000 There's a lot of shit on this table.

00:00:12.000 Yeah.

00:00:12.000 This table's ridiculous.

00:00:14.000 I'm a mess.

00:00:15.000 This table's reflecting of the busyness of my life right now.

00:00:18.000 I need to take some time and clean this fucking table.

00:00:21.000 But the thing is, man, people keep bringing me shit.

00:00:23.000 But it's all cool shit.

00:00:24.000 Paul, I love you, buddy, but you gave me a mushroom hat.

00:00:27.000 Please put that on.

00:00:28.000 Yes, I'll put this on.

00:00:30.000 I don't know.

00:00:31.000 Is this the way to wear it?

00:00:32.000 Like this way?

00:00:33.000 I think so.

00:00:36.000 That's fucking good.

00:00:37.000 So people keep giving me cool shit.

00:00:39.000 He also gave me this mushroom.

00:00:41.000 It's a dried mushroom.

00:00:42.000 People give me all this cool shit.

00:00:44.000 And so I go, oh, thank you.

00:00:45.000 And then I don't know where to put it.

00:00:46.000 He set it down.

00:00:47.000 I got Dan Aykroyd's vodka in the corner there.

00:00:49.000 A cool skull vodka thing.

00:00:51.000 God, I've never seen someone push vodka so hard on a podcast.

00:00:54.000 He goes hard in the paint with his vodka sales.

00:00:56.000 Great promotion.

00:00:56.000 It's very smooth.

00:00:57.000 And it's Dan Aykroyd.

00:00:59.000 So you're like, I'll buy it just to let...

00:01:00.000 I want to hear you talk.

00:01:01.000 The Blues Brother?

00:01:02.000 I'm in, dude.

00:01:03.000 Dude, come on, man.

00:01:04.000 I bought it.

00:01:04.000 He was a conehead.

00:01:06.000 He's one of the original Saturday Night Live Slayers.

00:01:10.000 Like the real OG. One of the Blues Brothers!

00:01:14.000 Blues Brother.

00:01:15.000 Yeah.

00:01:16.000 Hey man, we started this podcast off talking off the record.

00:01:19.000 And I thought it was probably good for everybody to hear.

00:01:23.000 I'm so happy you're not fighting.

00:01:25.000 And what we were saying was, I know that I was a dick to you to get you to stop doing it.

00:01:31.000 But I felt...

00:01:32.000 I felt like there was almost no other way that you were gonna live.

00:01:36.000 I felt like I felt scared.

00:01:39.000 I've seen too many people that are just...

00:01:42.000 There's a moment where it changes.

00:01:45.000 Where they stop being that person.

00:01:47.000 And they keep fighting.

00:01:49.000 And you see it.

00:01:50.000 You see the deterioration.

00:01:51.000 And no one steps in.

00:01:52.000 And no one stops them.

00:01:54.000 And then you'll talk to them alone, man.

00:01:56.000 Maybe you run into them in Vegas.

00:01:57.000 Maybe you both have a couple of drinks.

00:01:59.000 And you see each other at the bar.

00:02:00.000 And you're like, hey, how's things?

00:02:02.000 And you have these conversations.

00:02:03.000 And then the reality sets in.

00:02:05.000 Things are not good for a lot of these guys.

00:02:08.000 A lot of these guys that have taken punishment for too long, there's no bringing them back, man.

00:02:14.000 They get to this spot where you know, everyone knows there's something wrong and no one says anything to them.

00:02:20.000 And I was real scared that that was going to happen to you.

00:02:26.000 I was real scared, you know?

00:02:28.000 Like I didn't anticipate, when we did that crazy podcast that wound up being, you know, this like intervention, I didn't even know I was going to do it.

00:02:36.000 But while it was happening, I was like, you gotta stop!

00:02:40.000 That's all I was thinking is, you gotta get out!

00:02:42.000 We were a little high.

00:02:44.000 I don't even remember if we were drinking, but we probably were.

00:02:48.000 But I remember that being so sensitive to it like there's something has to be done Like now you gotta you you had so many other possibilities that there's if like most guys that are all in on fighting They don't have anything on the side like there's almost nothing else there.

00:03:04.000 There's almost just fighting and maybe a family, right?

00:03:07.000 But you were you were starting to flourish.

00:03:10.000 You're hilarious on podcasts what you know that can go away and Yeah, and guys become shells.

00:03:17.000 We see it, right?

00:03:19.000 Now that you're out, you see it, right?

00:03:23.000 Yeah, thank God or whoever's up there, man, for you and Brian Kellen.

00:03:28.000 Thank fucking God.

00:03:29.000 I know it came out Dickie.

00:03:30.000 I know it did.

00:03:31.000 And I know I apologized then and I apologize now.

00:03:34.000 But I think that's the only way you could do it.

00:03:36.000 I knew you weren't going to listen.

00:03:38.000 I knew you had this pride.

00:03:39.000 Like we were talking about before the show, you were a top 10 professional heavyweight in the biggest organization in the world.

00:03:47.000 That's an identity thing, too, man.

00:03:50.000 People get strapped into that identity.

00:03:53.000 It's one of the harder things about fighters, is when you quit, you have to find meaning in your life.

00:03:58.000 Like, what are you good at now?

00:04:00.000 Dude, for me...

00:04:02.000 I know I never did anything professionally, but it was the formative stages of my life where the only thing that gave me any feelings of good was martial arts.

00:04:11.000 You didn't feel like a loser.

00:04:12.000 The only thing.

00:04:13.000 The only thing.

00:04:14.000 Everything else I felt, even though I was kind of good at drawing, but even then I was like, my drawing teacher didn't like me.

00:04:20.000 I had friends that I was close with in the class.

00:04:23.000 We all drew and we liked our stuff, but man, I felt like a fucking loser except for martial arts.

00:04:28.000 So when I quit, Then I'm just doing comedy and I suck at comedy.

00:04:32.000 I was eating shit and I was like, what am I quitting for?

00:04:35.000 Like I'm quitting something that I was good at to be something that I suck at that I maybe think I have this pipe dream that I could eventually make a living out of.

00:04:43.000 I remember that feeling of not having an identity and obviously when you're 21, no one has an identity anyway.

00:04:49.000 You're always so fucking confused.

00:04:52.000 You're in your head.

00:04:52.000 You're trying to figure it out.

00:04:53.000 I was super fortunate where I was surrounded by guys like you, Callan, Bert, Tom.

00:05:01.000 I wanted to be in that party.

00:05:04.000 I was so fortunate.

00:05:05.000 The stars aligned for me where I was at this party over here and guys were getting CT and you're fighting and it's a fucking grind.

00:05:13.000 And then you guys were over here.

00:05:13.000 I'm like, well, I want to be one of them.

00:05:16.000 I'm good, man.

00:05:17.000 I'm good.

00:05:17.000 I want to do that.

00:05:18.000 And I think it took that bridge and that gap.

00:05:21.000 To be honest, I think that's the only way that you could have done it because the ego that I had at the time, especially fighting, man, getting to that level, it was like that ego's insane.

00:05:33.000 The narcissist and the dream of, oh, I can beat Kane or Stipe, these guys.

00:05:38.000 And I think the only way that I could have bridged that gap is by you going so hard in the paint.

00:05:43.000 Dude, I was so scared about Ngannou.

00:05:46.000 I was so scared they were going to fight you with Ngannou or someone like that.

00:05:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:51.000 I was so scared you were going to get murked by some...

00:05:54.000 When you weren't all in anymore.

00:05:56.000 Yes.

00:05:57.000 You know?

00:05:58.000 Those big fucking...

00:05:59.000 When you watch, like, when...

00:06:01.000 Francis murked Overeem with that left hook.

00:06:04.000 That uppercut?

00:06:05.000 Jesus Christ.

00:06:06.000 Like, if that was you.

00:06:07.000 Oh, my God.

00:06:08.000 And I was calling that fight, man.

00:06:10.000 Oh, dude.

00:06:11.000 And I love Alistair.

00:06:12.000 He's a great guy.

00:06:13.000 I have a deep appreciation for him as a fighter.

00:06:16.000 Yeah, and my feeling was when he came over as K-1 Grand Prix champion, I'm like, this is the most celebrated striker we've ever had in MMA. And you saw it in his fight with Brock Lesnar.

00:06:26.000 Phenomenal.

00:06:27.000 Dude!

00:06:28.000 People...

00:06:29.000 That's one of the things that makes that Francis K.O. so fucking crazy.

00:06:33.000 Insane.

00:06:34.000 He did the same thing to Junior Dos Santos, remember?

00:06:37.000 Overeem did it.

00:06:37.000 He hit him with a beautiful left hook.

00:06:39.000 Very similar punch.

00:06:42.000 Super worried about that with you, man.

00:06:43.000 But I also think, too, for me, it was like this...

00:06:49.000 Quick ascension into this UFC and I'm fighting these top 10, top 15 guys.

00:06:54.000 I'm in this world, but it's like I was almost like a cheat code because I was really athletic.

00:07:01.000 I was really, really athletic with my background, so I got...

00:07:05.000 I pass a lot of guys fast, my athleticism.

00:07:07.000 But then you get to a certain point where you're fighting these vets, where they've fought big, powerful, athletic guys before.

00:07:14.000 But then it comes down to experience and technique, and that's always, always going to win.

00:07:18.000 Nine times out of ten, that's always going to win.

00:07:20.000 The thing is about striking, too, is striking when you mix in with wrestling, you can kind of get away with a lot more.

00:07:26.000 A lot more crazy shit happens.

00:07:28.000 People knock people out that maybe wouldn't knock people out normally.

00:07:32.000 Kevin Randleman was an amazing example of that.

00:07:34.000 He knocked out Mirko Krokop with the left hook.

00:07:36.000 Remember that?

00:07:36.000 If they were in a straight kickboxing match, it's definitely possible that Kevin could do that.

00:07:40.000 Kevin was an incredible athlete.

00:07:42.000 But you would favor heavily that Mirko would be able to stuff that.

00:07:45.000 All day.

00:07:45.000 All day, most likely, because he was so elite in that realm, but you add striking to MMA, and there's so much craziness going on that sometimes it's hard for people to clearly establish who's actually better on their feet until someone can stop the craziness.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, there's blurred lines.

00:08:05.000 Yeah, and then you get to this level.

00:08:06.000 There's this level...

00:08:08.000 We get like a Masvidal.

00:08:09.000 He's a perfect example because he's so goddamn good.

00:08:13.000 He's so smart.

00:08:14.000 He's so technical and he finds these openings that maybe other people don't see or maybe they can't get to where those openings are and he finds those.

00:08:22.000 So you think you're doing good.

00:08:23.000 You think you're doing good, but he's waiting.

00:08:25.000 He's waiting for the moment where he sees this spot that he's been looking at and BOOM! He cracks Darren Till with that step in left hook and puts him out.

00:08:33.000 You put a fucking animal like Darren Till out cold.

00:08:36.000 Come on, man.

00:08:37.000 I think John's one of those guys, too.

00:08:39.000 Because of his last few opponents, everyone's like, God, maybe he's older.

00:08:43.000 He's lost a step.

00:08:44.000 I watch and I go, oh, he's playing with his food.

00:08:47.000 He's playing with his food.

00:08:48.000 I'm not disrespecting those guys who he's fought or Dominic Reyes, who he's going to fight.

00:08:52.000 But for John, you look at his legacy and the legends that he's fought, it's tough for him to get up for the challenge.

00:08:58.000 So he's playing with his food right now.

00:09:00.000 Wait till he fights.

00:09:02.000 I'm telling you, wait till he goes to heavyweight.

00:09:04.000 You're going to see the old John.

00:09:05.000 When there's actual, where he thinks it's a challenge, wait till you see him fight a Stipe or Francis.

00:09:11.000 You're going to see the monster come out.

00:09:13.000 And I just pick him with his food.

00:09:14.000 Yeah, I'll do that.

00:09:15.000 All right, yeah, let's do it.

00:09:16.000 I think he's in cruise control.

00:09:18.000 I think you're entirely correct.

00:09:20.000 And I think when you are at that elite level, when you've never been defeated, you have one loss.

00:09:24.000 It's a bullshit loss.

00:09:25.000 Everybody knows it's a bullshit loss.

00:09:27.000 He really should get his record cleaned.

00:09:29.000 They cleared him with this whole picogram shit.

00:09:32.000 They found out that we just have...

00:09:34.000 This new ability to measure substances in the most minuscule amounts that it's so ridiculous that just some random sort of vitamin that has some contaminant, one millionth of a fucking gram or whatever the hell.

00:09:49.000 Water or dick pill or protein, whatever the fuck you're eating.

00:09:52.000 All kinds of shit test positive that's not a drug.

00:09:54.000 It's not like someone's cheating.

00:09:56.000 So they cleared them on that, right?

00:09:57.000 USADA makes this whole statement about the new way they're viewing this stuff because the fact their equipment's just amazing.

00:10:04.000 You can't hide from them anymore, man.

00:10:05.000 Shout out to USADA, though.

00:10:06.000 I like that USADA went, yeah, it's so good.

00:10:09.000 You guys are flagging.

00:10:10.000 We're going to back off.

00:10:11.000 Yep.

00:10:12.000 I like that they learned from it.

00:10:13.000 I love it.

00:10:13.000 I love that they did the same with marijuana.

00:10:15.000 They realized, we're not dealing with a performance enhancer.

00:10:18.000 As long as these guys aren't fighting high, it's just helping them sleep and relax.

00:10:21.000 It's not helping anybody in terms of not making them stronger or faster.

00:10:26.000 And it might help them with anxiety and a lot of other things.

00:10:29.000 So they released that, right?

00:10:31.000 They're doing good things.

00:10:32.000 But with John, it's cleared that he wasn't taking anything.

00:10:36.000 This is just some...

00:10:37.000 Some shit that's a residual, like a residue that's on something else, some contaminated supplement.

00:10:42.000 Same thing would happen with Tim Means.

00:10:44.000 Tim Means got busted the same way.

00:10:46.000 I mean, they dragged it out with him for months.

00:10:48.000 There's a lot of guys.

00:10:48.000 When he was at his peak, really.

00:10:50.000 I know, man.

00:10:50.000 When he was peaking in the UFC. He's fucked up.

00:10:52.000 And he's one of the most interesting welterweights.

00:10:53.000 All of a sudden, boom, he gets a suspension from tainted supplements.

00:10:57.000 You look at the guy.

00:10:58.000 He's not a fucking steroid user.

00:10:59.000 Dude, how about Tom Waller?

00:11:00.000 Yes, yes.

00:11:01.000 Kind of lost his career.

00:11:02.000 Josh Barnett.

00:11:03.000 I know.

00:11:03.000 Same thing.

00:11:04.000 And people are upset, but a few of you saw it, you're like, We don't know what to tell you, dude.

00:11:07.000 We're trying to move forward and get better.

00:11:09.000 It sucks for those guys, and I feel so terrible for those guys.

00:11:13.000 But for USADA, our bat, we learn though, man.

00:11:15.000 There's nothing to do.

00:11:16.000 The thing is, USADA has a long career.

00:11:19.000 When you've got a guy like Tim Means or a guy like Josh Burnett, there's a window.

00:11:22.000 Josh has had an extremely long window, obviously.

00:11:24.000 Youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.

00:11:26.000 The longest, yeah.

00:11:27.000 But that extremely long window, I mean, it's going to come to a close, and they took away a large chunk of it for something that turned out to not be accurate.

00:11:35.000 But they're going to last a long time.

00:11:37.000 These guys, they say that at their peak, the best fighters have nine years at their peak.

00:11:44.000 God, that's a long time.

00:11:45.000 It's a long time.

00:11:46.000 The only guys who really hit that nine-year stride at peak form, I think, is Anderson, Fedor.

00:11:51.000 There's a few real legends.

00:11:53.000 GSP, obviously.

00:11:54.000 GSP. John.

00:11:56.000 John, obviously.

00:11:57.000 John is undefeated right now.

00:12:01.000 They took his title away, wins it back.

00:12:03.000 He's never lost a title fight.

00:12:05.000 And you're dealing with...

00:12:06.000 The guy wins the title, youngest ever in the sport.

00:12:10.000 Flying knee opener on Shogun.

00:12:12.000 Had just nothing but success since then.

00:12:14.000 People are like inspecting him with a microscope, expecting him to fall off.

00:12:19.000 Like, you're dealing with the goat, man.

00:12:20.000 It's hilarious.

00:12:21.000 He's the goat.

00:12:21.000 And even after the Santos fight, I'm like, oh, Santos had one leg?

00:12:24.000 So I went back and watched Jon Jones fight, and you watch, you're like, oh, he couldn't give two fucks about being in there right now.

00:12:31.000 Well, he was smart, too, because that guy was dangerous.

00:12:33.000 He's smart and he's calculated.

00:12:34.000 It's dangerous, but at the same time, he could have took him down.

00:12:36.000 His coaches were like, dude, I was talking to his manager, we were like, dude, take him down.

00:12:40.000 He's like, no, I'm just going to entertain this.

00:12:43.000 And he won.

00:12:44.000 It's hard for him to, because you look at the resume of guys he's beat, and then they're like, again, it's not a knock on Dominic Gray, it's not a knock on Corey Anderson or Anthony Smith, but you're like, here's Anthony Smith, and John's like...

00:12:56.000 Alright, yeah, let's do it, man.

00:12:58.000 So, you know, he's fucking with his food right now.

00:13:01.000 Well, he's so good, but he's still able to fight out.

00:13:05.000 Like, the Gustafson fight, the early one, the first one, was a perfect example of him falling into a trap, right?

00:13:11.000 Partying too hard, didn't train.

00:13:13.000 Trained for two weeks, sir.

00:13:14.000 Barely, right?

00:13:15.000 Everyone at camp was, like, they were, like, saying, what do we do here?

00:13:19.000 He goes out and guts it out.

00:13:21.000 Wins in the stretch!

00:13:22.000 Wins down the stretch!

00:13:23.000 Like, he had to be pushed to win down the stretch.

00:13:26.000 Right.

00:13:26.000 And I trained with Gustafin for that fight, and I'm talking the best I've ever seen in the training room.

00:13:32.000 I was like, oh, this guy's never gonna lose.

00:13:35.000 Oh, he's the best I've ever seen.

00:13:37.000 He would spar five rounds with me, then jump in with a heavyweight professional boxer and fuck him up.

00:13:42.000 5-5, 5-5, beat the fuck out of me.

00:13:45.000 And I'm like, he's never gonna lose.

00:13:48.000 John didn't, you gotta understand, didn't train.

00:13:51.000 Went the distance and beat that man.

00:13:54.000 And won down the stretch.

00:13:55.000 One down the stretch, gutted it out.

00:13:57.000 And Gusvin's the best light heavyweight of all time if he was in a different era and there's no DC or Jon Jones.

00:14:03.000 He's the GOAT. I'm just saying, that's how good he is.

00:14:06.000 He's the GOAT if those two fucking guys aren't there.

00:14:09.000 Yeah, you might be right.

00:14:10.000 He was this close to being both of them.

00:14:11.000 This fucking close, dude.

00:14:13.000 He could.

00:14:13.000 The first fight.

00:14:15.000 Yes.

00:14:15.000 But then the second fight, Jon just runs him over.

00:14:17.000 Because Jon took it serious.

00:14:18.000 Took it very seriously and wanted to prove a point.

00:14:20.000 Oh, he's good.

00:14:20.000 Check this out.

00:14:21.000 How about the DC fight?

00:14:23.000 Alright, beat you in decision.

00:14:24.000 That's cool.

00:14:25.000 Run it back.

00:14:26.000 Boom.

00:14:27.000 Head kick.

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:28.000 And not just a head kick, but a head kick on the side where DC said, you're not going to trick me into leaning towards my right where you could hit me with that left kick.

00:14:36.000 Like, they actually had a conversation about it.

00:14:38.000 The goat.

00:14:39.000 Here's what's interesting about this.

00:14:41.000 His light heavyweight is so...

00:14:42.000 I just wish John would dip out and be like, you guys do your thing.

00:14:45.000 Build the division.

00:14:46.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:14:47.000 I like what he's doing.

00:14:48.000 Well, no, he's defending it, sure.

00:14:50.000 But here's the thing.

00:14:51.000 He's not stimulated by that.

00:14:54.000 He's talking shit to the middleweight champion in the world.

00:14:56.000 He's busy talking shit to Izzy.

00:14:58.000 Israel's talking shit to him, too.

00:15:00.000 They're having a lot of fun.

00:15:01.000 It's entertaining, though.

00:15:01.000 Yeah, they're having a lot of fun.

00:15:03.000 Listen, ultimately, I think it's good for everybody.

00:15:05.000 I think that little feud between Izzy and Jon Jones, first of all, it elevates Izzy.

00:15:11.000 Because all these people that didn't know who he was, like, why is Jon Jones talking shit to him?

00:15:15.000 Oh, look at this motherfucker.

00:15:16.000 Holy shit, he's good.

00:15:17.000 And then they watch his fights and go, this is why Jon Jones is talking shit to him, because he starched Robert Whittaker.

00:15:23.000 Basically, at the end of the first round, the fight was over.

00:15:25.000 I mean, Robert Whittaker was fucksville.

00:15:26.000 And he stops him in the second.

00:15:28.000 And his social media, he's lighting him out there.

00:15:31.000 He's good everywhere.

00:15:32.000 And he's a great guy.

00:15:34.000 The best.

00:15:34.000 He's a really great guy.

00:15:36.000 Love him.

00:15:37.000 Love him.

00:15:37.000 And honest as fuck.

00:15:38.000 You know he bought a McLaren 720S? Yes, he did.

00:15:40.000 When he told me that, I went, dude, I gave him a hug.

00:15:43.000 I was so excited for him.

00:15:44.000 I thought he was a car guy.

00:15:45.000 He goes, I gotta be honest, man.

00:15:46.000 I just bought it because it looked like this anime character.

00:15:48.000 I went, ah!

00:15:49.000 All right, well, you got the right car.

00:15:51.000 Is it on the right side?

00:15:53.000 When I know a car is awesome, but it's got a steering wheel on the wrong side, I'm like, ugh.

00:15:56.000 I know.

00:15:57.000 Get that thing away from me.

00:15:58.000 Goddamn, what are you doing, dude?

00:15:59.000 I saw this incredible Porsche.

00:16:00.000 They had this 1972 RS, but it had the steering wheel on the right-hand side.

00:16:05.000 I'm like, get out of here with that garbage.

00:16:07.000 Get this fake shit out of here.

00:16:09.000 What is this?

00:16:09.000 I know, dude.

00:16:09.000 Your steering wheel's on the wrong side.

00:16:11.000 What's crazy is Izzy told me they actually offered the fight to him already.

00:16:16.000 Do you know that?

00:16:17.000 He's smart.

00:16:18.000 He's smart because he went, oh no, you're not going to Canelo me.

00:16:21.000 Floyd Mayweather canelo me.

00:16:22.000 You're trying to get me while I'm really young in the game?

00:16:24.000 No, no, no.

00:16:25.000 We're doing two years.

00:16:26.000 We're doing two years in Vegas.

00:16:28.000 Yeah.

00:16:28.000 Look at Izzy.

00:16:29.000 Look at that car.

00:16:30.000 720S. That's a beautiful car, man.

00:16:32.000 I saw one the other day.

00:16:34.000 They sound good, too.

00:16:36.000 It's a spaceship inside.

00:16:37.000 Mmm, they're beautiful, man.

00:16:39.000 That's a beautiful car.

00:16:40.000 It's a great fucking car.

00:16:41.000 He's special, man.

00:16:42.000 I think he's gonna be the next big superstar.

00:16:44.000 I really do.

00:16:44.000 He's got everything going for him.

00:16:46.000 Spectacular talent, great personality.

00:16:49.000 He's fun.

00:16:50.000 I mean, he fights with as much skill as we've ever seen a striker.

00:16:54.000 I mean, he's Anderson Silva 2.0.

00:16:56.000 He really is, man.

00:16:57.000 His striking's out of this fucking world, man.

00:16:59.000 But he has all the skills Anderson had, but he's amazing on the mic.

00:17:03.000 Yes!

00:17:03.000 Anderson was terrible on the mic.

00:17:04.000 Well, you know, he spoke Portuguese.

00:17:07.000 It was kind of the fun of it, though.

00:17:08.000 No, it was almost like, well, don't talk.

00:17:10.000 But he was so good, it didn't matter.

00:17:12.000 Agree.

00:17:13.000 Like, Anderson was so good, it didn't matter if we didn't understand what he said.

00:17:16.000 Everybody loved him, man.

00:17:18.000 Because he was the GOAT at the time.

00:17:20.000 But also, the game's different.

00:17:23.000 Now it's so much of a specter, like entertainment, where Anderson would still be Anderson, but it was different back then.

00:17:29.000 We were more appreciative of those guys.

00:17:32.000 I feel like, I don't know, maybe the fanbase understood the sport more?

00:17:35.000 Because GSP was huge, not a great shit talker.

00:17:38.000 Anderson Silva, not a great shit talker.

00:17:40.000 We loved those guys.

00:17:41.000 Cain Velasquez, terrible talker.

00:17:43.000 Never talked shit, ever.

00:17:45.000 Those were the big boys.

00:17:46.000 Yep, yep.

00:17:47.000 GSP is a perfect example.

00:17:49.000 Nothing but nice, always.

00:17:50.000 Never talk shit.

00:17:52.000 Never.

00:17:53.000 Max Holloway.

00:17:54.000 Max would talk a little shit, but it's more playful.

00:17:57.000 It's more like, we'll see.

00:17:58.000 We'll see.

00:17:59.000 But Staubender really doesn't talk shit unless you initiate it.

00:18:03.000 If you initiate it, game, match.

00:18:05.000 It's a devastator.

00:18:08.000 And he's good at it, man.

00:18:09.000 He's good at it!

00:18:10.000 He lights people the fuck up.

00:18:11.000 Him and Jon Jones going back and forth is kind of fucking hilarious.

00:18:14.000 It's good for both of them.

00:18:15.000 It's great for Izzy.

00:18:17.000 Because if Jon is that concerned about him, everybody's got to realize, oh, this guy's for real.

00:18:22.000 And I always say, I wouldn't entertain it when people would bring it up.

00:18:24.000 I go, Izzy's too small.

00:18:26.000 It's just a fucking, it's nothing.

00:18:28.000 It's like Bigfoot.

00:18:28.000 Whenever you're going to see it, get out of here.

00:18:30.000 It's a big difference.

00:18:30.000 There's a big difference, but Izzy's fucking big, man.

00:18:33.000 When he walked up, I've never met him before.

00:18:35.000 When he walked up, I went, damn, dude, you are not small.

00:18:38.000 No, but he's only about 200 or so pounds, like 205, somewhere around that range.

00:18:44.000 He said he was 203, I think.

00:18:45.000 Yeah, he's in that range.

00:18:46.000 John's probably 235 right now, right?

00:18:49.000 And John has two brothers that are elite NFL athletes.

00:18:53.000 I mean, bro, he comes from fantastic genetics.

00:18:57.000 I mean, he's just got super athlete family.

00:18:59.000 And he's huge.

00:19:01.000 That size difference is so big.

00:19:04.000 Like, could you see Izzy as a heavyweight?

00:19:06.000 I don't know if I could.

00:19:07.000 No, no.

00:19:07.000 He would be overblown.

00:19:09.000 It would be too hard for him to deal with the really big guys.

00:19:11.000 They swear it's going to happen though.

00:19:13.000 Izzy loves it.

00:19:14.000 He's going to go up to heavyweight?

00:19:15.000 Or Jon Jones?

00:19:17.000 Izzy's going to go up.

00:19:18.000 He's going to go up to heavyweight?

00:19:19.000 He's down for weight.

00:19:19.000 He's like, I don't care, man.

00:19:21.000 He doesn't care.

00:19:21.000 Well, he's so good technically.

00:19:23.000 I mean, who knows, man.

00:19:24.000 Maybe he's doing specific kinds of training that keeps his body light.

00:19:27.000 And maybe if he lifted weights, he would actually get better.

00:19:29.000 The only thing that would worry me about that fight, and I'd be rooting hard for Izzy in that fight, but the only thing that worries me is Jon's wrestling.

00:19:36.000 Oh, yeah, man.

00:19:37.000 Remember he took down DC and Olympia.

00:19:39.000 Yes!

00:19:39.000 He wanted to make a point.

00:19:41.000 First round.

00:19:42.000 So if he wants to play that game, he can play it.

00:19:44.000 But John can do everything.

00:19:46.000 And one thing he does better than anybody that's ever fought, utilize distance.

00:19:53.000 He utilizes distance better than anybody.

00:19:55.000 He's the very best at keeping you here.

00:19:57.000 And a lot of people accuse him of poking people in the eyes.

00:19:59.000 There have been some incidents.

00:20:01.000 I don't think he's doing it on purpose.

00:20:03.000 I think, and I agree with you, he shouldn't do it, he should close his fist.

00:20:06.000 But what I'm saying is, the way his style is, he keeps you out here, and then bang!

00:20:12.000 Keeps you out here, bang!

00:20:13.000 Side kick to the leg, oblique kick, leg kick, pops you with a jab, hits you with a knee, keeps you here, keeps you here.

00:20:20.000 These are his antennas, really.

00:20:21.000 He's just feeling out like a snake's tongue.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, he's got space, like this much space, where he could fuck you up, but you can't hit him.

00:20:29.000 He's got this, because he's also, he's so comfortable in world championship fights.

00:20:34.000 He's had nothing but world championship fights.

00:20:36.000 That's all he knows?

00:20:37.000 Yes.

00:20:37.000 So when you're at the top of the food chain with the bright lights, main event, and you're like, holy shit, this is the big one.

00:20:42.000 John's like, this is a fight.

00:20:44.000 All his fights are like this.

00:20:47.000 Another day in the office.

00:20:48.000 That's how Tyson was when Tyson was crushing people.

00:20:49.000 That's how Anderson was when Anderson was crushing people.

00:20:52.000 They thrive in the light.

00:20:53.000 And they get to this point where you have to be so much better to beat them because you're shitting your pants going in, you're compromised, and you're fighting a guy who's at the peak.

00:21:03.000 He's in the zone.

00:21:05.000 I mean, Anderson, like when he fought Stefan Bonner in Brazil, Remember that shit, dude?

00:21:08.000 He was in the zone, man, when he fucked up Forrest Griffin.

00:21:12.000 He was in the zone.

00:21:13.000 There was this zone where Anderson was when he front kicked Vitor in the face.

00:21:16.000 There was Anderson for a few years that was like, holy shit!

00:21:20.000 People forget.

00:21:21.000 People forget.

00:21:22.000 It's hard when you look at it retroactively.

00:21:24.000 You got to go back and understand the times we were living in.

00:21:26.000 We're talking about 2005, 2006. Do you remember when he first came on?

00:21:31.000 We knew of him in Pride.

00:21:32.000 If you were hardcore, you knew of him in Pride.

00:21:34.000 But you didn't know how good he is.

00:21:36.000 And then they go, hey, Chris Lieben, we got someone for you.

00:21:38.000 And Chris Lieben goes, I'll fight him.

00:21:40.000 And Chris Lieben had that noggin, that head, so he could take punches.

00:21:44.000 And Fucking Anderson Silva lit that dude up.

00:21:49.000 You were like, what the fuck is happening right now?

00:21:51.000 I have friends that bet on fights, and that was one of them that said, listen to me.

00:21:54.000 Bet the house on the Brazilian.

00:21:56.000 I mean, bet the house.

00:21:58.000 How about he was going to retire?

00:22:00.000 Big Nog was like, nah, you got to keep going, dude.

00:22:02.000 Crazy.

00:22:03.000 He was fighting over in Cage Warriors.

00:22:05.000 I remember when he fought Jorge Rivera in Cage Warriors and let Jorge punch him in the face.

00:22:09.000 Oh, that's right.

00:22:10.000 Let him.

00:22:10.000 Stood right in front of him.

00:22:11.000 Let him punch him in the face.

00:22:12.000 Let him punch him in the face.

00:22:13.000 Then he smiles at him and kicks his ass and stops him.

00:22:16.000 Dude!

00:22:17.000 He fucked everybody up over there.

00:22:19.000 Remember when he fucked up Lee Murray?

00:22:20.000 Oh, my God.

00:22:21.000 Back when Lee Murray was merking people with one punch?

00:22:23.000 People forget, too.

00:22:24.000 Woo!

00:22:24.000 Lee Murray can crack!

00:22:25.000 Lee Murray can crack!

00:22:26.000 That guy could crack!

00:22:28.000 Rob a bank for you too.

00:22:29.000 Horrible!

00:22:29.000 Yeah, rob a lot of banks.

00:22:30.000 Hell yeah.

00:22:31.000 Shout out to Lee Murray.

00:22:31.000 Is he out yet?

00:22:32.000 No!

00:22:33.000 Jail for life, son!

00:22:34.000 Oh, they gave him life?

00:22:35.000 Oh, he's going to be in there forever.

00:22:37.000 They don't even know where the money is.

00:22:38.000 They're missing like $50 million.

00:22:39.000 It's a goddamn Guy Ritchie movie.

00:22:41.000 I know.

00:22:42.000 Isn't Guy Ritchie making a movie about that?

00:22:44.000 On Lee Murray?

00:22:46.000 Here's a little thought.

00:22:47.000 People don't know, Lee Murray came into prominence because he got in a street fight with Tito Ortiz.

00:22:51.000 And Chuck Liddell was there.

00:22:53.000 But Chuck didn't fight him though, right?

00:22:54.000 Chuck was fighting his other friends.

00:22:56.000 But the rumor is, is Lee Murray starched Tito.

00:23:01.000 Well, the rumor was that he hit him.

00:23:04.000 Yeah.

00:23:04.000 I knew that he hit him, but I think Tito had, I'm not making excuses for anybody, but I think what I heard is Tito had like dress shoes on, like slippery ass dress shoes.

00:23:12.000 I talked to Chuck about it and he goes, no one got knocked out.

00:23:15.000 It was a scuffle and then we separated.

00:23:17.000 Chuck hates Tito, he goes, but I'm not gonna spread the rumor.

00:23:20.000 He didn't get knocked out.

00:23:21.000 No, I heard he got punched.

00:23:22.000 Tito's fighting this weekend, by the way.

00:23:24.000 Yeah, who's he fighting?

00:23:25.000 Some guy who wore a mask and got destroyed by Krokop.

00:23:29.000 Oh, that guy?

00:23:30.000 That guy.

00:23:30.000 Remember that guy in Pride?

00:23:31.000 He was like, I'll try it out, but I'm going to wear a mask.

00:23:34.000 Dude, it's like a movie.

00:23:35.000 It's a horror movie.

00:23:36.000 It was a horror movie.

00:23:37.000 Get that Dos Karos.

00:23:39.000 Get the KO from Mirko Krokop versus Dos Karos.

00:23:43.000 Mirko hits him with left kick cemetery right to the fucking dome.

00:23:47.000 And when the dude goes out, as he slumps, blood is dripping out of the inside of the mask across his eyes.

00:23:53.000 It's a horror movie.

00:23:54.000 But it's like if Tarantino was gonna film this.

00:23:57.000 You'd be like, come on, bro.

00:23:57.000 You'd be like, come on, the blood's dripping down.

00:23:59.000 Get out of here.

00:24:00.000 Watch this.

00:24:01.000 First of all, the Japanese people are so mean.

00:24:05.000 Here it is.

00:24:06.000 When he gets him up against the corner is when he lands this.

00:24:09.000 Let it roll here a little bit.

00:24:10.000 He cracks him a few times just to let him know, bro.

00:24:12.000 This guy's a wrestler, by the way.

00:24:13.000 You're making a huge mistake.

00:24:14.000 You fucked up so bad.

00:24:16.000 Because this guy has no business being in there.

00:24:18.000 And Mirko at the time is the peak.

00:24:21.000 He's the best kickboxer we had ever seen in the sport at that time in the heavyweight division.

00:24:26.000 This was like Alistair was still not Alistair back then.

00:24:29.000 You know, he had made it.

00:24:30.000 Mirko was the first.

00:24:31.000 He was the first real K-1 superstar because he was explosive.

00:24:35.000 Like a lot of the guys like Ernesto Hust or maybe Peter Ertz, they maybe wouldn't have made the transition to what Mirko did.

00:24:40.000 Mirko was like, boom!

00:24:41.000 Look at that, son.

00:24:42.000 One shot.

00:24:43.000 Boom!

00:24:43.000 Now watch when they close up on him.

00:24:45.000 Watch when they close it on and you see the blood.

00:24:47.000 Come on, bitch.

00:24:48.000 Where's the blood?

00:24:49.000 You're trying to take the mask off?

00:24:50.000 Oh!

00:24:51.000 It's edited out, these fucks.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, they try to rip the mask off in time, but they don't get it.

00:24:56.000 Boy, I hope I didn't make up the blood part.

00:24:59.000 I don't think I did.

00:25:00.000 No, blood comes out.

00:25:01.000 I think it definitely happened.

00:25:02.000 It's when they're trying to get it off.

00:25:03.000 Yeah, okay.

00:25:04.000 So when they go back to the dude...

00:25:07.000 Okay, there's blood.

00:25:10.000 But let me see where the blood comes out of.

00:25:12.000 Don't they show it dripping?

00:25:13.000 Maybe I saw it on a photo.

00:25:15.000 No, I remember seeing it too.

00:25:17.000 But it might be one of those things, like the Berenstain Bears, where everybody remembers it wrong.

00:25:22.000 Oh, you're right.

00:25:23.000 No, they got blood.

00:25:25.000 There's obviously some bleeding on his head because they're cleaning it up.

00:25:29.000 But I remember seeing him slumped and then the blood trickles down.

00:25:32.000 Hey, what the fuck was that guy thinking fighting?

00:25:34.000 I had that shirt on.

00:25:35.000 The Japanese don't care.

00:25:36.000 What the fuck were they...

00:25:36.000 They'll pay you.

00:25:37.000 What was he thinking?

00:25:39.000 Oh, man.

00:25:39.000 Dudes are...

00:25:40.000 This idea.

00:25:41.000 Like, they can just do it.

00:25:43.000 Oh, it'll be fine.

00:25:44.000 Oh, what's the big deal?

00:25:45.000 It's Mirko Krokok.

00:25:46.000 I've been in a fight before.

00:25:47.000 Oh, my God.

00:25:48.000 Dude, you knocked that guy out.

00:25:50.000 Yeah, I know.

00:25:51.000 How about that, haters?

00:25:54.000 That guy who just kissed his ass.

00:25:57.000 Brendan knocked him out.

00:25:58.000 Yeah, man.

00:26:00.000 He was still doing the damn thing, too.

00:26:02.000 Bro, his KO of Vanderlei Silva is one of the most horrific in the sport.

00:26:07.000 The best.

00:26:07.000 Because that was two fights.

00:26:09.000 One, his first fight with mixed martial arts rules, like modified rules.

00:26:13.000 Remember, you could only go to the ground for like X amount of seconds.

00:26:15.000 There's some weird rule.

00:26:17.000 And if it went to the distance, it would be a draw.

00:26:19.000 So the fight went to the distance.

00:26:20.000 So then after that, Mirko has a series of fights with high-level competition.

00:26:24.000 It gets way better at sprawling.

00:26:26.000 Also brings Dean Lister into his camp.

00:26:28.000 Verdum as well.

00:26:29.000 Verdum.

00:26:30.000 So he gets real comfortable with jiu-jitsu, real comfortable with grappling.

00:26:33.000 He's working with these elite guys, powerful wrestlers, the whole deal.

00:26:36.000 Then they have the second fight.

00:26:38.000 The second fight's in the heavyweight tournament, and Vanderlei's on all the Mexican supplements.

00:26:43.000 I love that Vanderlei.

00:26:44.000 Woo!

00:26:44.000 That's the best Vanderlei.

00:26:45.000 The Berserker.

00:26:47.000 Find that.

00:26:48.000 Mirko, Krokop vs.

00:26:49.000 Vanderlei Silva, too.

00:26:50.000 It's a great fight.

00:26:51.000 And Vanderlei got bigger than Krokop.

00:26:53.000 Vanderlei, if I remember correctly, I may be wrong, but I think I'm right.

00:26:57.000 Vanderlei weighed 218, and Krokop weighed 214. I think Vanderlei was actually heavier.

00:27:03.000 Vanderlei of pure Brazilian steel.

00:27:04.000 Imagine if I was right about that, if I really remember those numbers.

00:27:07.000 That'd be great.

00:27:07.000 Great line.

00:27:09.000 Vandele Silva, I know we had an issue.

00:27:10.000 Sorry, while we were talking, was that the whole thing go down or just the TVs?

00:27:17.000 Vandele Silva versus Mirko Krokop 2. Because in that one, that one, Mirko was fully comfortable with MMA. He wasn't getting taken down.

00:27:28.000 He knew Vander Lee wasn't a wrestler.

00:27:29.000 His takedown offense was insane.

00:27:30.000 And he wasn't worried about being submitted either, because he'd been training with Dean Lister and Fabricio Verdum.

00:27:34.000 So he's just sending missiles!

00:27:38.000 You know, he's the one who got Verdum into Pride and into MMA. Really?

00:27:41.000 He brought Verdum in for jiu-jitsu, and Verdum's like, oh, that's kind of cool.

00:27:45.000 Wow.

00:27:46.000 That's crazy.

00:27:47.000 That's right.

00:27:47.000 That's right before Verdun fought Junior Dos Santos.

00:27:51.000 Remember when no one knew who Dos Santos was?

00:27:53.000 And I think it was like a late minute substitute.

00:27:55.000 Yeah.

00:27:56.000 Late minute.

00:27:56.000 Yeah.

00:27:57.000 And Junior hit him with the uppercut.

00:27:58.000 See, this is the second fight.

00:28:00.000 In the second fight, Vanderlei is facing a completely different animal.

00:28:03.000 Because look at that.

00:28:04.000 Shakes him off.

00:28:05.000 Crow Cop was physically strong as fuck.

00:28:08.000 He was moving like a real MMA fighter who's also an elite kickboxer.

00:28:13.000 It was a different animal.

00:28:15.000 Dude, you weren't submitting him.

00:28:16.000 He's been rolling with Fabricio Verdum.

00:28:18.000 So he lets him up and he's just battering Van Der Leen.

00:28:21.000 Look at this straight left hand.

00:28:23.000 Boom!

00:28:24.000 Boom!

00:28:24.000 I mean, before the KO, it's horrific, right?

00:28:27.000 He's beating the shit out of Van Der Leen.

00:28:29.000 Vandele is supposed to be fighting 185. That's his real weight class.

00:28:32.000 He's just bulked up, and you just can't hang with a guy that's this fucking good as a heavyweight.

00:28:38.000 And so then, Vandele gets up, they give him a yellow card, kick to the body, and then sets up the big high kick to the head.

00:28:45.000 I mean, Vandele's trying, man.

00:28:46.000 He's swinging.

00:28:47.000 He's swinging.

00:28:48.000 He's swinging for the fences.

00:28:50.000 He is, but dude, that fucking left kick to the forearms right there just numbed his arms.

00:28:54.000 Boom!

00:28:54.000 And there's the head kick.

00:28:55.000 Back up to the kick to the body.

00:28:56.000 Back up before that.

00:28:58.000 Watch this kick to the body, dude, because you see Vandelay's arms.

00:29:01.000 You know how when a dude gets shins slammed into the arms, they have this, like, oh, look at that one, right to the gut.

00:29:07.000 Yeah.

00:29:08.000 Oh, my God, dude.

00:29:10.000 I mean, he's slamming.

00:29:12.000 It's hitting forearm and gut.

00:29:13.000 And here's the high kick.

00:29:15.000 Boom!

00:29:15.000 So you eat a couple of those to your body or to your arms.

00:29:20.000 Everything just goes off.

00:29:21.000 Everything is fucked up now.

00:29:23.000 And then he hits him with that high kick.

00:29:24.000 Woo!

00:29:25.000 Shout out to Crow Cop.

00:29:26.000 Shout out to Crow Cop.

00:29:27.000 Right leg hospital, left leg cemetery.

00:29:29.000 Yeah, dude.

00:29:31.000 But that was a perfect example of pride at its peak.

00:29:35.000 You wanna know how cocky I was when I was a fighter?

00:29:37.000 When we came out, you know the first thing I did?

00:29:39.000 I threw a high kick at Crow Cop.

00:29:41.000 Yeah, I know.

00:29:41.000 I threw a head kick and he blocked it and smiled.

00:29:43.000 I was like, you fucking idiot.

00:29:45.000 I was like, just wanna let you know, man.

00:29:48.000 Hilarious.

00:29:50.000 Dude, how about fucking Cowboy Conner?

00:29:53.000 That's a very good fight.

00:29:55.000 It's a long time overdue, right?

00:29:56.000 Perfect time for it, too.

00:29:57.000 Me too.

00:29:58.000 I agree.

00:29:59.000 I like how Cowboy's fighting now.

00:30:00.000 He's so calm and relaxed in there.

00:30:02.000 He's lost his last two, but they were to the top of the heap.

00:30:07.000 Yeah, I mean, he fought Gaethje, who I think is the scariest fucking guy in the division right now.

00:30:12.000 He scares me because Gaethje's like, it's like he's on a suicide mission.

00:30:18.000 It's like either he's gonna go or you're gonna go.

00:30:21.000 And a lot of people say that, but they don't really mean it.

00:30:24.000 Agree.

00:30:24.000 He fucking means it.

00:30:26.000 And he's backed off of that a hair.

00:30:29.000 So he's still controlled wildness.

00:30:32.000 If you say he's a brother, he does not like it.

00:30:34.000 I don't think he necessarily is.

00:30:36.000 I think what he is, he's wild, but it's intelligent pressure.

00:30:41.000 It's controlled chaos.

00:30:41.000 Yes.

00:30:42.000 It's better than ever.

00:30:43.000 And he has a great chin, phenomenal wrestling.

00:30:46.000 Having those fights where it didn't go his way because of the chaos, I think is just making him be just a little bit more calculated.

00:30:53.000 Just a little bit.

00:30:54.000 That's all he needs.

00:30:55.000 A little more cerebral.

00:30:55.000 Dude, when he fucked up Barboza, I was like, Jesus Christ.

00:30:58.000 Who does that to Barboza?

00:30:59.000 Here's the thing, though, because I thought Gaethje's kind of left out in the cold with all these matchups being announced with Khabib, Tony, Conor, Cowboy.

00:31:07.000 Khabib's kind of left out.

00:31:08.000 He's just like, all right, the fuck we do now, man.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, Gagey is a little bit left out in the cold, but not really.

00:31:14.000 Did I say Khabib or Gagey?

00:31:14.000 You said Gagey and then you said Khabib later.

00:31:16.000 But I know what you meant.

00:31:18.000 Gagey is a little bit left out, but if anybody gets injured, he's right in there.

00:31:23.000 See, we're in this weird place where we're pretending these fights are all going to happen.

00:31:27.000 We hope and pray that Khabib and Tony, we hope and pray that Cowboy and Conor actually make it to the dance, but they might not make it to the dance.

00:31:35.000 So if somebody doesn't make it to the dance, guess who gets a phone call?

00:31:39.000 Justin Gagey.

00:31:40.000 Or Masvidal.

00:31:41.000 Or Masvidal, but Masvidal's 170. Yeah, I'm saying for Conor.

00:31:45.000 Oh, for Conor, yeah.

00:31:46.000 Because that fight, you know Conor vs Cowboys at welterweight?

00:31:48.000 Yes.

00:31:49.000 Which, when it was first announced, I was like, oh, at 55, man, that's a tough fight for Cowboys, slow starter, Conor's a finisher, comes out the gates like a fucking banshee.

00:31:57.000 And then my brother texted me, he goes, man, you know it's at welterweight?

00:31:59.000 I'm like, why the fuck would they do that?

00:32:01.000 Because Conor doesn't want to lose any weight.

00:32:04.000 Listen, dude, I think that guy tortured himself to get down to 45 so hard.

00:32:09.000 And when you looked at what he looked like when he was on the scale, when he was flexing, he looked like a goddamn zombie.

00:32:15.000 A skeleton.

00:32:15.000 It was horrible.

00:32:16.000 So I think, you don't, nobody, whether he complains or not about that, nobody rides for free.

00:32:22.000 You do that to your body for a couple of years, you're doing some fucking damage.

00:32:25.000 And it makes it harder to lose the weight afterwards, right?

00:32:27.000 So then he's going up to 55. He's obviously elite at 55, wins the title at 55, has the great rematch with Diaz at 70, and then comes back and fights Khabib at 55 again and gets mauled.

00:32:40.000 He has a fight with Cowboy.

00:32:44.000 He's really a 55er that can fight welterweight.

00:32:47.000 That's the right size for him.

00:32:49.000 I don't think Nate is fighting 55 at any time in the future anymore.

00:32:52.000 He's too big now.

00:32:53.000 He's too big, but my only issue at 70, and I would assume his team decided to do it at 70, is when I look at Conor McGregor as a welterweight, is his power the same as it was at 45 and 55?

00:33:06.000 Is his timing the same as speed?

00:33:08.000 No, but he's fighting a guy who I think in his eyes is not really a welterweight.

00:33:14.000 You think, oh, 55er, because most of his work at 55?

00:33:17.000 I think he thinks of Cowboy as a guy who'll fight at 170, but he's really a 55er.

00:33:23.000 That's fair.

00:33:23.000 My only issue with that is, and I'm a huge Conor McGregor fan, obviously Cerrone's a friend of mine, so I just want him to have a great fight, but...

00:33:33.000 When people were complaining about this fight, when the internet's like, ah, it's whatever to me, I think it's a phenomenal fight because I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you know, I always said Cowboy is too much of a company, man.

00:33:45.000 The UFC and Dan would go, cut weight, dude, fight this fight, do this, quick turnaround, right?

00:33:49.000 Cowboy, the legend of Cowboy was born.

00:33:52.000 He's jumping out fucking ships and whatever the hell he's riding fucking bulls and whatever the fuck he was doing the week of the fight Yeah, and he was kind of kill himself to make weight And I just went does it ever work out for anybody who says who's a yes man to the UFC not really?

00:34:04.000 But now we've seen it's worked out for cowboy because this is his you know I I don't put too much into titles anymore like this is Cowboys title shot you got the biggest fight in the game and You're fighting Conor McGregor.

00:34:17.000 You're going to make millions of dollars.

00:34:19.000 This is the golden goose.

00:34:21.000 If you talk to Kamaru Usman, Kobe Covington, Masvidal, Khabib, Tony, maybe not those two, but if you talk to anyone, who do you want to fight?

00:34:28.000 Everyone says Conor.

00:34:29.000 Because you know it's the biggest fight you can get in the game.

00:34:32.000 Cowboy got it.

00:34:33.000 He's paid his dues.

00:34:35.000 He's earned it.

00:34:36.000 He's getting millions and millions of dollars.

00:34:38.000 Win, lose, or draw.

00:34:39.000 It's a good fight for Cowboy.

00:34:40.000 I think they should make a red panties night belt.

00:34:43.000 That'd be cool.

00:34:44.000 Whoever gets to fight Conor, you get a red panties and a belt.

00:34:47.000 Because the belts are whatever now.

00:34:52.000 Hire some super hot actress to wear them for a day.

00:34:54.000 Oh, dude.

00:34:55.000 I would love that.

00:34:56.000 And they win those.

00:34:58.000 That'd be so sick.

00:34:59.000 But a belt with framed red panties in it.

00:35:03.000 It'd be so dope.

00:35:05.000 I think he's, you know, Conor's calculated in his comeback.

00:35:08.000 And I think this is a smart fight for him because he's not fighting someone who's too big, right?

00:35:13.000 Where I feel like, you know, that was the argument about Nate.

00:35:16.000 Even though Nate did, of course, fight at 55 for a long time.

00:35:18.000 He's a big dude, man.

00:35:19.000 He's a big dude.

00:35:21.000 You know, and then there's some other guys that want to fight him at 170 that are real 170s.

00:35:25.000 Like, Masvidal is a perfect example of that.

00:35:26.000 Masvidal was a 155 for a long time, but he's not anymore.

00:35:29.000 If you look at his frame, like, you go look back when he fought, like, Michael Chiesa, which was, like, 2000...

00:35:39.000 13, 14?

00:35:40.000 14. Somewhere around then, right?

00:35:42.000 So Masvidal back then was like a skinny guy, man.

00:35:45.000 Yeah, real skinny.

00:35:46.000 He wasn't defined, you know?

00:35:47.000 Wasn't a man yet almost.

00:35:49.000 Like he grew into his body.

00:35:50.000 He was also killing himself to make 55, right?

00:35:53.000 And you can't pack on any weight, you can't put in any muscle.

00:35:56.000 When he went up to 170, we got to see who he really is.

00:35:59.000 We knew who he really was before.

00:36:00.000 I mean, he knocked out Eve Edwards in Bodog Fox.

00:36:03.000 Old school.

00:36:04.000 Remember that?

00:36:04.000 Yeah, and that was when Eve was a monster.

00:36:06.000 Eve was probably the best 55-pounder in the world.

00:36:08.000 People forget about that, too.

00:36:09.000 They do forget.

00:36:11.000 But one of the reasons why I was trying to think why they would do it at 70, I think you're right where Cowboy is a natural 155. He's not a huge welterweight.

00:36:19.000 But the other thing is, now that Conor fights at 70, now he has options.

00:36:23.000 He can play in 70, he can play at 55. In 70, I know his team wants to do it, and his manager told me this, Masvidal told me this, they want to be the co-main event against Nick Diaz, and they want the Conor fight.

00:36:34.000 Is Nick taking fights?

00:36:35.000 He announced on his Instagram that he has big news about a fight.

00:36:39.000 On his Instagram story.

00:36:41.000 Did you see his interview with Ariel?

00:36:43.000 Yep.

00:36:44.000 What'd you think?

00:36:45.000 What'd you think?

00:36:47.000 I didn't think he looked happy.

00:36:49.000 No.

00:36:50.000 I thought he was real troubled.

00:36:52.000 And a lot of rambling.

00:36:54.000 I mean, a lot of thoughts.

00:36:55.000 Trying to get out of his head.

00:36:56.000 A lot of rants.

00:36:57.000 You know, I mean, I think...

00:36:58.000 I don't...

00:36:59.000 It's like...

00:37:00.000 But have you ever watched an interview and been like, oh, damn, that was...

00:37:03.000 With him?

00:37:03.000 Yeah, that was super clear.

00:37:04.000 I mean, I don't think that's his jam.

00:37:06.000 His jam is fucking people up.

00:37:08.000 They talk about that.

00:37:09.000 Him and Nate, they're just like, ah, it's a little...

00:37:11.000 I know.

00:37:12.000 It's tough because, again, we kicked this podcast off with CT and stuff like that.

00:37:16.000 So it's like, is that a combination of him fighting?

00:37:20.000 Is that what's going on there?

00:37:21.000 Those are the years of the wars?

00:37:23.000 Or is that just him?

00:37:24.000 We don't know.

00:37:25.000 But I don't know him well enough.

00:37:27.000 But I know guys, you know...

00:37:30.000 That are in that same era.

00:37:32.000 That are having real problems now.

00:37:33.000 Big time.

00:37:33.000 I mean, you gotta remember when he was fighting in Strikeforce.

00:37:36.000 God, you remember his fight with Paul Daly?

00:37:37.000 Oh my God, dude.

00:37:38.000 How about his Cyborg fight?

00:37:40.000 How good was he, man?

00:37:40.000 He was so good.

00:37:41.000 How about his Frank Shamrock fight?

00:37:43.000 Holy fuck, man.

00:37:44.000 It's a shame what happened with him and his brother in the UFC. We didn't get enough of it.

00:37:48.000 Well, the big thing...

00:37:49.000 Well, Nate...

00:37:50.000 Didn't get appreciated enough.

00:37:52.000 And he got fucked?

00:37:53.000 Yeah.

00:37:53.000 And I had always said that after the Conor fight, one of the reasons why those fights were so big was Nate.

00:37:59.000 And for whatever reason, no one was putting that together.

00:38:02.000 I'm like, this guy's a superstar.

00:38:03.000 People go crazy when they see him.

00:38:05.000 Like, this is not a regular fight.

00:38:07.000 He's real as fuck and he smokes weed.

00:38:09.000 He's a stoner champion.

00:38:11.000 And he says fuck you to the man, everyone can relate to that.

00:38:13.000 Yeah, I get that.

00:38:14.000 And even the vegans love him, because sometimes he follows a vegan doctor.

00:38:17.000 Yeah, he checks all the boxes for a lot of reasons.

00:38:19.000 See, he's got so many good things, and he's tough as shit, and he'll fight anybody, and he's been a veteran, he's been fucking fighting forever, he's had so many wars.

00:38:28.000 What did you think of his fight against Masvidal?

00:38:29.000 We haven't talked in a long time, dude.

00:38:31.000 I know, Masvidal's so good, man.

00:38:33.000 He's so good.

00:38:34.000 I thought Masvidal, out of the three rounds, I thought it was best case for Nate, too, that they did, that that doctor stopped the fight, because I thought Masvidal was setting up to finish him.

00:38:45.000 And, you know, Nate's never been finished, so...

00:38:48.000 He has been finished.

00:38:48.000 Josh Thompson finished him.

00:38:49.000 Well, that's right.

00:38:49.000 But I'm saying, you know, it was going that way.

00:38:53.000 Yeah, it was best case scenario where he could be like, dude, what the fuck, where he doesn't lose any of that, you know...

00:38:58.000 Right.

00:38:59.000 No, I hear you.

00:39:00.000 Swag that he went into.

00:39:01.000 Yeah, well, the Josh Thompson fight was more competitive up until the moment Josh landed that high kick.

00:39:07.000 Correct, that high kick.

00:39:07.000 It was a good fight.

00:39:08.000 I think Josh was still winning that fight.

00:39:11.000 I have to go back and watch it again.

00:39:13.000 It was more competitive, though.

00:39:14.000 It was more competitive.

00:39:14.000 Because this Masvidal fight, I didn't find it that competitive.

00:39:16.000 When they got on the mic and went, oh, rematch, I went, No, there's no way.

00:39:20.000 And when Dana was like, no, that's not happening.

00:39:21.000 I was like, oh, he gets it.

00:39:22.000 Look, it was certainly competitive in that Masvidal was in a fight.

00:39:25.000 It wasn't like he ran him over.

00:39:27.000 No.

00:39:27.000 No one's going to run him over.

00:39:29.000 But that first round was devastating.

00:39:32.000 Masvidal is fucking good, man.

00:39:34.000 He's fucking smart.

00:39:35.000 He sees things and he can act on things that other guys just, they just either don't have the ability to or they don't throw themselves in the fire correctly like he does.

00:39:44.000 And then he gets out good.

00:39:45.000 His defense is on point.

00:39:46.000 He's good at everything.

00:39:47.000 He stands straight up, too.

00:39:49.000 He's got a totally different style.

00:39:51.000 Like, when you see Masvidal stand, he's hardly ever crouching.

00:39:55.000 Dude, he stands straight up.

00:39:56.000 He's got so much confidence in his wrestling takedown defense and his striking and his...

00:40:03.000 Octagon IQ that when he puts it all together, he's able to fight with his best stand-up stance.

00:40:09.000 You know, he's fighting like and he makes you aware very clear very quickly that you're in danger with his hands.

00:40:16.000 He's throwing bombs at your fucking head.

00:40:18.000 Think about his experience, man.

00:40:20.000 Think about the guys he's beat, and so now he's here.

00:40:23.000 So, you know, when you talk to him, he's like, the belt?

00:40:26.000 Fuck the belt.

00:40:26.000 I get the BMF title.

00:40:28.000 He's like, Colby and Kamara are just, they're third or fourth options for me, man.

00:40:34.000 I'm looking at Nick Diaz, I'm looking at Connor, you know?

00:40:37.000 He's like, I don't care about the belt, man.

00:40:38.000 I see why he would say that, but I think it would be a real shame if right now, in his prime of primes, he didn't fight for the title.

00:40:46.000 I just feel like he's so close.

00:40:49.000 He's huge right now.

00:40:51.000 Huge.

00:40:52.000 You wouldn't rather see him fight Nick or Connor?

00:40:54.000 No.

00:40:56.000 Interesting.

00:40:57.000 No.

00:40:57.000 Well, I want to see first, no matter what, Colby and Usman.

00:41:00.000 And you're getting that.

00:41:02.000 Yes.

00:41:02.000 Super excited about that.

00:41:03.000 Phenomenal fight.

00:41:04.000 Once that's done, I want Masvidal to fight for the title.

00:41:08.000 Whoever's got the belt, I think if Masvidal...

00:41:11.000 And Nate Diaz or Nick Diaz don't fight on the undercard?

00:41:15.000 I don't know if it's going to fight.

00:41:18.000 I have no idea.

00:41:20.000 I know they want it and his management said the UFC has reached out to Nick and they're trying to figure that out.

00:41:25.000 If they do make that fight happen, I mean, of course I'm going to be excited to see it.

00:41:29.000 Of course.

00:41:30.000 But my thoughts are that right now we're experiencing Masvidal in this very strange zone where you see fighters enter into it, whether it's through this rededication or refocusing of his intent and his discipline.

00:41:45.000 You know his story, how he went and did that reality show?

00:41:48.000 Yeah, and came back and was like...

00:41:50.000 Yeah, he didn't have any food, man.

00:41:51.000 This is a fucking South American reality show.

00:41:53.000 He had to go to this village and ask for food.

00:41:55.000 He also said he had time to get out from...

00:41:58.000 Sit back and think about everything going on.

00:42:01.000 I was like, alright, this is what I want to do.

00:42:03.000 And then came back and was like, let's do it, man.

00:42:05.000 And then just, he became this superstar.

00:42:07.000 And I just, you know, when I meet those guys, and obviously I know their story, and you get around them, I have this sense of just like, I'm so happy for them, man.

00:42:16.000 Like, that's why I talk about a Nick Diaz fight for Jorge, and I talk about a Conor McGregor fight, because you're not, the title, like, Kamaru and Colby, they're not making real money, man.

00:42:27.000 You don't think that Colby's going to bring in a lot of people?

00:42:31.000 No.

00:42:31.000 Well, a record would say he doesn't.

00:42:32.000 And I love Colby's fantastic fighter, but as far as ticket sales and pay-per-views, no.

00:42:36.000 You know who does?

00:42:37.000 If I'm the UFC, Colby with one big win right now.

00:42:42.000 See, he hasn't fought in a while, right?

00:42:44.000 He fights Robbie Lawler.

00:42:46.000 Before that, it was a whole year.

00:42:47.000 So there hasn't been a lot of activity.

00:42:48.000 Him and Dana hate each other.

00:42:49.000 But his crazy shit talking with his $3 suit and his fucking MAGA hat and his book.

00:42:54.000 And the strippers.

00:42:54.000 If he gets through and he beats Kamaru Usman and it gets on the internet and it becomes like a thing, he could be the next huge superstar.

00:43:07.000 He knows what he's doing.

00:43:08.000 And you and I both know him.

00:43:09.000 He's not like that guy at all.

00:43:11.000 This is a fucking character.

00:43:13.000 He's a really nice guy.

00:43:14.000 The best.

00:43:14.000 He's smart as shit and his fucking discipline is unparalleled and people look at him with that stupid suit on and the MAGA hat and he's carrying around Donald Trump Jr.'s book.

00:43:25.000 It's fucking amazing, dude.

00:43:28.000 He's got the best act that anybody's ever put on in the UFC because he's got an act.

00:43:34.000 All these other guys are talking shit.

00:43:36.000 He's talking shit through a character.

00:43:38.000 He's playing game.

00:43:38.000 He made a guy!

00:43:39.000 He's playing game.

00:43:40.000 Do you think he thinks that suit looks good?

00:43:42.000 Look at that fucking suit!

00:43:43.000 Dude, that suit is the cheapest suit he could find!

00:43:46.000 Dude, when I did a food truck with him, like in between, you could see me like...

00:43:51.000 And I'd be like, dude, you don't have to do this, man.

00:43:55.000 We can just...

00:43:55.000 He has to.

00:43:55.000 He's like, no, no, it's cool.

00:43:56.000 He has to.

00:43:57.000 And then the strippers, he goes, can you...

00:43:59.000 How about...

00:43:59.000 You know what would be fun if one of you massage...

00:44:02.000 When he massaged my shoulders, she goes, get the fuck out of here.

00:44:06.000 Look at him sitting there with his book, triggered, with his fucking suit on.

00:44:11.000 He's so funny, man.

00:44:13.000 The fucking hat is signed!

00:44:15.000 Closing on the hat!

00:44:17.000 By Donald Trump because he went to the White House.

00:44:18.000 Look at that!

00:44:19.000 When he was an interim champ.

00:44:20.000 Bro.

00:44:22.000 He's still the interim champ.

00:44:23.000 Yes.

00:44:23.000 You can't just take it from him.

00:44:25.000 But what's interesting too is, you know, remember him and Masvidal had, they were training partners.

00:44:30.000 So there's a story there.

00:44:31.000 Yes.

00:44:31.000 But again, I think for Masvidal...

00:44:34.000 But they're friends, apparently.

00:44:35.000 Yes.

00:44:35.000 But also, yeah, it's like an Andy Kaufman thing.

00:44:38.000 So if...

00:44:40.000 But for Masvidal to ride off in the sunset and be set up with his kids, I want to see him fight Conor, I want to see him fight Nick.

00:44:46.000 I know he made a ton of loot for that last fight.

00:44:48.000 He made a ton of loot for that last fight.

00:44:51.000 And it was a big success.

00:44:52.000 Everybody wanted to see that fight.

00:44:54.000 It was big.

00:44:54.000 And I think Masvidal's name's never been brighter.

00:44:56.000 Whoever wins the title.

00:44:58.000 Dude, think about the story of him versus Nick Diaz.

00:45:01.000 And Nick Diaz going, you beat my little brother?

00:45:03.000 That's the most I've ever relayed to the Diaz brothers when he goes, dude, you beat my little brother?

00:45:08.000 Because I have an older brother.

00:45:09.000 I was like, oh hell yeah, get him, Nick.

00:45:11.000 I'm in now, bro.

00:45:12.000 Yeah, fuck him up, man.

00:45:14.000 And people will love that too.

00:45:15.000 I mean, it'll definitely be successful.

00:45:17.000 But I would like to see Nick be real active before he fights a guy like Maslow.

00:45:22.000 That's not happening, brother.

00:45:22.000 I know, I know, you're right, you're right.

00:45:24.000 That's what's crazy about the UFC. Warm-up fight?

00:45:27.000 Excuse me?

00:45:28.000 Conor hasn't won a fight in three years.

00:45:30.000 Then before that, the only fight he's had against Khabib, he gets done boxing, then fights fucking Khabib.

00:45:37.000 He hasn't beaten anybody since the Eddie Alvarez fight when he won the title.

00:45:40.000 It's crazy, right?

00:45:41.000 It is kind of crazy.

00:45:42.000 He's making fucking half a billion dollars.

00:45:45.000 This is where you gotta, whatever you want to say about Conor, obviously his outside doctor on antics have been crazy, but you gotta respect the guy who has all that money and goes, yeah, I'll fight Cerrone in January at welterweight.

00:45:59.000 He's number five lightweight in the world.

00:46:02.000 He's like, yeah, I'll fight that guy.

00:46:03.000 Do you think that he can reignite the fire that he had when he KO'd Derek Brunson?

00:46:10.000 Nope.

00:46:10.000 When he was coming up?

00:46:11.000 Mm-mm.

00:46:12.000 No?

00:46:12.000 Not with that money in the bank.

00:46:14.000 That sucks.

00:46:15.000 I don't think fighting comes from that place.

00:46:17.000 But how come some guys, when they have hundreds of millions of dollars, they still fuck people up?

00:46:21.000 Like Tyson in his prime, Lennox Lewis in his prime.

00:46:24.000 Tyson fucked people up until the bully fought back.

00:46:29.000 Oh, you mean when he fought?

00:46:30.000 Yeah, he's never the same.

00:46:32.000 I think he's also tired of it too, man.

00:46:35.000 I think it was a combination of he fought a guy who wasn't scared and didn't back down and was like, yeah, bring it, dude.

00:46:40.000 And he got fucked.

00:46:41.000 He's lost every fight that the guy was like, I'm not scared.

00:46:44.000 He lost those fights.

00:46:45.000 But I'm not saying Tyson wasn't great, but Evander Holyfield's a better boxer, man.

00:46:49.000 He's a better fighter, but he doesn't get the respect.

00:46:51.000 Well, there were some guys that weren't scared of him.

00:46:54.000 That stood in with him and he beat him by decision.

00:46:57.000 You know, like didn't he beat Razor Roddick by decision?

00:47:00.000 They had a lot of shit talking.

00:47:01.000 He KO'd Bonecruster Smith, right?

00:47:04.000 Yeah, but when we're talking about a tip of the spear like Evander Holyfield at that time, Evander Holyfield, there's a real good argument for sure that he's one of the greatest of all time.

00:47:14.000 He's the only guy to ever win the title four times.

00:47:16.000 Easy.

00:47:18.000 But I just think, you know, with Conor, especially this day and age, the UFC is different than boxing where it's such a grind, man.

00:47:25.000 I was just going to say about Evander.

00:47:26.000 And guys are so good.

00:47:28.000 Oh, my bad.

00:47:28.000 Go ahead.

00:47:29.000 Evander spent all that money.

00:47:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:31.000 On like one house.

00:47:32.000 That's what I was saying.

00:47:35.000 He bought some hotel in Atlanta.

00:47:37.000 Rick Ross, the fake Rick Ross owns that house.

00:47:39.000 Not the real Freeway Ricky, the real drug dealer.

00:47:43.000 Was out there doing positive things in the community.

00:47:45.000 The rapper who took his name.

00:47:47.000 He lost in court.

00:47:48.000 Tried to get his name back.

00:47:50.000 Tried to get that guy to stop using his name or pay him to use his fucking name.

00:47:53.000 And how about that rapper Rick Ross used to be a cop.

00:47:55.000 And now you're talking about dope and all this shit.

00:47:57.000 Well, he was a security guard at a prison, I think.

00:47:59.000 I think something along those lines.

00:48:00.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:48:01.000 And how about he owns...

00:48:01.000 Look at that house!

00:48:02.000 Dude.

00:48:03.000 So Vander Holyfield made hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:48:06.000 It's only 5.8.

00:48:07.000 Oh, it was not bad because it's outside of Atlanta.

00:48:09.000 But it has 37 rooms and all his family moved in?

00:48:13.000 It cost a million dollars just to keep every year.

00:48:15.000 I think that was the word.

00:48:16.000 There was a million dollars to run.

00:48:18.000 For maintenance?

00:48:19.000 Yeah, just everything.

00:48:20.000 Holy fuck, dude.

00:48:21.000 He moved into Bellagio.

00:48:26.000 That house is so big.

00:48:27.000 Imagine that.

00:48:28.000 Rick Ross made that with another dude's name just talking shit.

00:48:31.000 What a great country.

00:48:32.000 You can just talk shit in this country and you can make fucking millions of dollars.

00:48:35.000 And the other thing Rick Ross does is he owns like a hundred Buffalo Wild Wings.

00:48:40.000 Or Buffalo Stops.

00:48:41.000 Wing Stops.

00:48:42.000 Wingstop.

00:48:42.000 Shout out to Wingstop.

00:48:43.000 Shout out to Wingstop.

00:48:44.000 That's a good move, right?

00:48:46.000 People always want wings.

00:48:47.000 Wings have been around forever.

00:48:48.000 Dude, I fucking...

00:48:49.000 My mouth's watering.

00:48:50.000 I love wings, dude.

00:48:52.000 There used to be a place right outside Boston Comedy in the village.

00:48:56.000 We'd do sets at Boston Comedy, and there was this wing spot, and they had different levels, and one was suicide.

00:49:03.000 They had one...

00:49:05.000 You would get this suicide sauce on these wings.

00:49:08.000 Oh my god.

00:49:10.000 Was it purple?

00:49:10.000 Like almost a purple seed?

00:49:11.000 I didn't know at the time.

00:49:12.000 I didn't understand hot peppers.

00:49:13.000 But it was definitely habanero.

00:49:14.000 Because it was an orange color.

00:49:16.000 Like a real orange color.

00:49:18.000 And you would eat those wings and just be like...

00:49:20.000 It's like a weird combination of pleasure and pain at the same time.

00:49:23.000 It takes your breath away.

00:49:24.000 Your lips go white.

00:49:28.000 I fucking love wings.

00:49:29.000 Yeah.

00:49:29.000 I don't want to do that wings show though.

00:49:31.000 It's not a good way to talk, man.

00:49:33.000 You know, it's like talking while snot's coming out of your nose and you're crying.

00:49:38.000 You would do well at it though.

00:49:39.000 It's not a good place to talk.

00:49:40.000 It'd be fun though.

00:49:41.000 It'd be fun to see you on there.

00:49:42.000 I know, but why are you asking people personal questions while they're crying?

00:49:45.000 Well, it's hot as fuck.

00:49:47.000 Some guys just...

00:49:47.000 I can barely talk.

00:49:49.000 Some guys just crush it where it doesn't faze them.

00:49:51.000 How does that happen?

00:49:53.000 My friend Tommy Hershko, I've talked about him before.

00:49:55.000 There used to be a place called Chili My Soul in Encino.

00:49:58.000 And it was this crazy chili place.

00:50:00.000 This guy was into the most ridiculously hot chili.

00:50:04.000 It was so hot, you would have to sign a waiver if you wanted to buy the stuff that they put in it.

00:50:09.000 And he was telling me that even with the hottest shit that they had, they had like a number system, I think.

00:50:15.000 I think ten, you know, I think eight was like the most I could tolerate.

00:50:19.000 But they would have these guys from Nepal come, and even with the ten, number ten, the hottest shit they had, these dudes would be putting some extra hot sauce in there.

00:50:27.000 Holy fuck!

00:50:28.000 Do you like spicy stuff?

00:50:29.000 I don't like it that spicy.

00:50:30.000 I can't handle that.

00:50:32.000 Spicy, but flavorful.

00:50:33.000 I like spicy.

00:50:33.000 I love jalapenos with elk.

00:50:36.000 It's like my favorite meal.

00:50:37.000 I slice up like four or five jalapenos and I'm in a bunch of slices.

00:50:41.000 Every time I take a piece of elk, I put a piece of jalapeno on that bitch.

00:50:44.000 I know.

00:50:44.000 When you post it, I'm like balls deep in a cheese pizza.

00:50:48.000 I'm like, God damn it.

00:50:50.000 Dude.

00:50:51.000 Stuff keeps you alive.

00:50:52.000 Gives you fuel.

00:50:53.000 You eat that stuff.

00:50:54.000 I know.

00:50:55.000 The spice and the pepper and the fucking...

00:50:58.000 Supernatural muscle of the elk meat.

00:51:00.000 Roar!

00:51:01.000 Oh, that's the menu, man.

00:51:02.000 That was it.

00:51:03.000 That's it?

00:51:04.000 It was a number system.

00:51:06.000 Yeah, so 10. Demon is 10. See that?

00:51:08.000 10 will fucking end your life.

00:51:11.000 10 plus.

00:51:11.000 Oh my god, 10 plus.

00:51:13.000 And when they let you try it, they would let you try it in the tiniest cup.

00:51:17.000 Like a little paper cup, like that big.

00:51:20.000 And they'd give you a little baby spoon.

00:51:22.000 Like one of them baby spoons you would get at the ice cream store.

00:51:24.000 You want to try that different flavor?

00:51:26.000 Can I try that French vanilla?

00:51:28.000 And they'd give you a little something.

00:51:31.000 That's what it's like.

00:51:32.000 They would give you that and you would put it in your mouth and I would immediately start hiccuping.

00:51:36.000 Jesus Christ.

00:51:37.000 Your body's like, what in the fuck are you doing to me, man?

00:51:40.000 There's been a few people who on that, what the fuck the Hot Ones is?

00:51:45.000 Yeah, Hot Ones, that's right.

00:51:46.000 The Hot Ones, like Shia LaBeouf took all of them at the end, put them all together, and the guy's like, I wouldn't do that, dude.

00:51:51.000 And he did it, and he was about to throw up.

00:51:54.000 They had to bring him milk or some shit.

00:51:56.000 Well, Shia's got other issues.

00:51:59.000 He's probably just...

00:51:59.000 He does.

00:52:00.000 He's an old actor, though.

00:52:01.000 Very good.

00:52:01.000 Very good actor.

00:52:02.000 Shout out to Peanut Butter Falcon.

00:52:04.000 It's a hard road for all of us.

00:52:05.000 Yeah, it is.

00:52:06.000 He just wanted to get a little further down the road.

00:52:08.000 Just...

00:52:10.000 Spicy's not for me, dude.

00:52:12.000 Ryan and your boy Logan Paul in Hawaii.

00:52:14.000 Did you really?

00:52:14.000 Yeah, he was wandering around Hawaii.

00:52:16.000 Did you say when were you there?

00:52:17.000 I talked over Thanksgiving weekend.

00:52:19.000 He's a nice kid, right?

00:52:19.000 Very nice.

00:52:20.000 I've talked to him before.

00:52:21.000 I talked to him with you.

00:52:23.000 Oh, that's right.

00:52:23.000 We were at the Comedy Store.

00:52:24.000 He had a good fight, man.

00:52:26.000 Their fight was good.

00:52:27.000 It was a good fight.

00:52:28.000 They didn't get tired.

00:52:29.000 I mean, they fucking went after it for six rounds.

00:52:31.000 Dude, for guys like that to go, you know, I've seen guys who have experience in amateur boxing would gas the fuck out in front of a crowd like that.

00:52:40.000 Pretty impressive.

00:52:41.000 It's interesting.

00:52:42.000 You know, here's a guy also doesn't need to do that.

00:52:45.000 He makes a lot of money.

00:52:47.000 A ton of money.

00:52:47.000 Makes a ton of money, right?

00:52:49.000 Whether you like it or not, that's the reality of it.

00:52:51.000 Well, someone likes it.

00:52:51.000 That's why he's making the money.

00:52:52.000 But I mean, whether someone listening likes to hear it or not, the truth is he makes a ton of money.

00:52:56.000 Correct.

00:52:56.000 You can lie all you know.

00:52:57.000 No, man, he's broke.

00:52:59.000 That guy lost all his money.

00:53:01.000 No, he's got all the money.

00:53:03.000 Not been to his ass.

00:53:04.000 He still decided to fight, which is interesting.

00:53:07.000 It's like, okay.

00:53:08.000 If you have that competitive drive in you, if you really do have it in you.

00:53:13.000 I think for him and those YouTubers, especially at his level, it's just like, what's the next thing that we can compete?

00:53:20.000 Get everyone behind?

00:53:22.000 They could have done ballet dancing.

00:53:24.000 Whatever it is, it would have sold millions and millions of dollars.

00:53:27.000 But they chose this, which I respect.

00:53:29.000 But that KSA guy, who I've never seen, I'm not familiar with him.

00:53:31.000 I know he's British, so I like British people.

00:53:33.000 So I know he was like, they're like, hey, you want to do a rematch?

00:53:36.000 He's like, fuck, I'm not getting him in the face again.

00:53:37.000 This was it, dude.

00:53:39.000 I'm done.

00:53:39.000 Well, he won for sure.

00:53:40.000 So for him, that's the best way to end it.

00:53:43.000 Yeah, he was like, I'm out.

00:53:44.000 And it was real controversial.

00:53:45.000 Well, the ref, the penalty on Logan, I thought was ridiculous.

00:53:48.000 It was a little too much.

00:53:49.000 That ref, and he's a respected ref, but it's also like...

00:53:53.000 You're in there for this kind of show.

00:53:56.000 Take it for what it is.

00:53:57.000 He doesn't ever fought before.

00:53:58.000 Don't take two points from Logan Paul because of that.

00:54:01.000 Two points?

00:54:01.000 Yeah, I didn't agree with that.

00:54:02.000 Without a warning?

00:54:02.000 That's ridiculous.

00:54:03.000 I didn't agree with that.

00:54:04.000 And I think...

00:54:06.000 With more fights, Logan could learn how to relax.

00:54:10.000 He gets wild and starts swinging.

00:54:12.000 For sure.

00:54:12.000 But Logan, stop boxing.

00:54:14.000 Yeah.

00:54:14.000 You have a gillion dollars.

00:54:16.000 Keep doing that, dude.

00:54:17.000 Fuck this, man.

00:54:18.000 Exactly.

00:54:19.000 But it was interesting watching him.

00:54:20.000 I'm like, this kid can punch.

00:54:21.000 He's athletic, man.

00:54:22.000 He's very athletic.

00:54:23.000 Driven, has a work ethic.

00:54:24.000 And in the heat of the battle, and he was trained by Shannon.

00:54:27.000 Shannon the Cannon Briggs.

00:54:28.000 Let's go, champ!

00:54:29.000 Let's go, champ.

00:54:30.000 Let's go, champ.

00:54:30.000 Was training him.

00:54:31.000 Yeah.

00:54:31.000 Shannon the Cannon knows how to fucking fight.

00:54:33.000 Yeah, he did a real camp, and it's just like, I respect it, but stop fighting.

00:54:37.000 Exactly.

00:54:38.000 Well, maybe he will know.

00:54:39.000 Maybe you will.

00:54:40.000 Yeah, you check that box, you're good, man.

00:54:42.000 Dude, what do you think about Adesanya and Yoel Romero?

00:54:44.000 Is that real?

00:54:45.000 It's not confirmed yet, is it?

00:54:47.000 I don't know.

00:54:48.000 I sent you something.

00:54:49.000 I was hoping.

00:54:49.000 He sent that to me and I was like, holy shit!

00:54:52.000 Because I fell asleep.

00:54:53.000 I woke up in the morning and I'm like, here we go.

00:54:55.000 Is it not confirmed?

00:54:56.000 Did someone troll me?

00:54:58.000 No, I don't think so.

00:54:59.000 I think I found it on one of the websites I follow on Instagram.

00:55:02.000 But usually they leak there and then it gets announced.

00:55:04.000 But if he does fight Yoel Romero, and when I was talking to Jorge and Yoel Romero's manager when I was doing the food truck with Jorge, he was just like, oh, Jorge's getting the fight, man.

00:55:16.000 I was like, no.

00:55:17.000 He's coming off a loss.

00:55:18.000 He goes, think about his fucking losses.

00:55:20.000 He goes, he has this, do you think he lost to Paulo Costa?

00:55:23.000 I was like, no one got robbed, but I can see why they get to Paulo, but you have no argument there.

00:55:27.000 He goes, think about before that, the Robert Whitaker fight?

00:55:30.000 He got fucked with that too.

00:55:31.000 He definitely got robbed in the second Whitaker fight.

00:55:33.000 Correct.

00:55:33.000 I thought he won that fight.

00:55:34.000 Yeah.

00:55:34.000 I've said that many, many times, too, and I haven't really heard a good argument against it.

00:55:38.000 He had him hurt real bad in at least two rounds.

00:55:41.000 Yeah, I'd have to go back.

00:55:42.000 I remember at the time I did score it for Whitaker.

00:55:44.000 Here's my thing.

00:55:44.000 That's fine.

00:55:45.000 If you think he won, yeah, all right.

00:55:47.000 I can see that.

00:55:48.000 I see both sides.

00:55:49.000 But that's an argument for giving Joel Romero the title shot.

00:55:53.000 It's not like if he got starts in the game title shot, you're like, what are you doing?

00:55:56.000 Yeah.

00:55:56.000 Is it real?

00:55:57.000 This is on Yoel's page.

00:55:59.000 It's not official.

00:56:00.000 Oh, shit.

00:56:01.000 March 7th.

00:56:02.000 Here's the problem.

00:56:03.000 If Yoel hasn't heard anything...

00:56:06.000 But that's on Yoel's page.

00:56:07.000 I know, but he goes, a lot of people pudding saying we fight March.

00:56:11.000 Should I be ready?

00:56:13.000 So it's like...

00:56:15.000 A lot of people pudding saying we fight March.

00:56:18.000 How about...

00:56:20.000 Should I be ready?

00:56:22.000 Should I be ready?

00:56:23.000 Gay Jesus!

00:56:24.000 How about Andrew Schultz?

00:56:25.000 Don't forget!

00:56:26.000 Andrew Schultz is super close with Izzy, and he saw that, and he goes, dude, why would Izzy fight this guy?

00:56:33.000 He doesn't speak very good English.

00:56:34.000 I'm like, dude, hold on.

00:56:36.000 What did he say?

00:56:37.000 He goes, he doesn't speak English.

00:56:38.000 He needs a guy to speak good English, right?

00:56:41.000 Talk trash.

00:56:41.000 You don't understand.

00:56:43.000 Yoel Romero is such a fucking nightmare.

00:56:46.000 And for Izzy to go after Yoel, it just ups the legend of Izzy.

00:56:50.000 What he's doing is perfect.

00:56:52.000 Trust me, it's perfect.

00:56:53.000 Andrew, stay in your lane.

00:56:54.000 We love you, Andrew.

00:56:56.000 Stay in your lane.

00:56:57.000 Don't you fuck this up.

00:56:58.000 Imagine if he talked Izzy out of it.

00:57:01.000 I'd be so mad at him.

00:57:03.000 Izzy's not gonna listen to him on that.

00:57:04.000 Of course he wouldn't.

00:57:05.000 But imagine if he did.

00:57:06.000 What if Andrew had some fucking magic hypnosis power?

00:57:08.000 And Izzy was like, I talked to Schultz, man.

00:57:10.000 I'm not gonna do it.

00:57:11.000 That guy can't even talk English.

00:57:12.000 Like, what the fuck are we doing?

00:57:14.000 Why'd you do that?

00:57:15.000 Don't forget!

00:57:17.000 Hey, Jesus.

00:57:18.000 Don't forget!

00:57:20.000 Dude, how about one that fight is confirmed, Ferguson-Khabib is happening.

00:57:23.000 How the fuck did people not understand he was saying don't forget?

00:57:27.000 You know, out of all the times that I've ever not done post-fight commentary, that was the time I was the most mad.

00:57:33.000 Would they not let you?

00:57:34.000 I wasn't there.

00:57:35.000 I wasn't there for that fight.

00:57:37.000 So when he was saying it was a fight that I wasn't there.

00:57:39.000 But it was somewhere else.

00:57:40.000 Where was that?

00:57:40.000 I don't know.

00:57:41.000 I wasn't there.

00:57:41.000 It was a pay-per-view.

00:57:43.000 Don't forget, Jesus!

00:57:45.000 Look, I know a lot of Cuban people.

00:57:48.000 I know what the fuck he's saying.

00:57:49.000 He's saying, don't forget Jesus.

00:57:51.000 It's not, go for gay.

00:57:53.000 Don't forget.

00:57:54.000 Yeah, why would he say...

00:57:55.000 Crank it up so we can hear it.

00:58:01.000 It was a fight night.

00:58:02.000 That's why you didn't do it.

00:58:04.000 Listen, people, listen.

00:58:06.000 He's got a Bible quote on his forehead, folks.

00:58:09.000 What happened to you, USA? What happened to you?

00:58:13.000 What's going on, you?

00:58:15.000 Forget!

00:58:16.000 For the best of the best of the world, the name is Jesus Christ!

00:58:20.000 What happened to you?

00:58:24.000 Go!

00:58:25.000 Go back for your God!

00:58:27.000 Go for Jesus!

00:58:28.000 Don't forget Jesus, people!

00:58:31.000 Not forget Jesus.

00:58:32.000 God, dude.

00:58:33.000 The thing is, he's going, what's wrong with you Americans?

00:58:36.000 What's wrong with you Americans?

00:58:37.000 You forget.

00:58:38.000 You forget Jesus.

00:58:39.000 You gay people.

00:58:41.000 No.

00:58:42.000 You think that's what he said?

00:58:43.000 That's exactly what he said.

00:58:44.000 Let me hear that again.

00:58:45.000 Damn.

00:58:46.000 You know what?

00:58:47.000 Pause for a second.

00:58:48.000 I'm going to be honest.

00:58:51.000 I'm gonna be honest, I did a little bit.

00:58:52.000 I was like, wait, no.

00:58:54.000 Because he lines it up with, what's wrong with you, America?

00:58:56.000 What's wrong with you people?

00:58:57.000 Here's the problem, here's the problem.

00:58:58.000 He said, forget.

00:59:00.000 Pretty clear.

00:59:01.000 That's what fucked me up.

00:59:01.000 You forget.

00:59:02.000 You forget.

00:59:03.000 Right, but a guy like that who barely speaks.

00:59:05.000 You believe in gay Jesus.

00:59:07.000 Is that really what he said?

00:59:08.000 Yeah!

00:59:08.000 Play that shit again, bro!

00:59:10.000 Oh, no!

00:59:11.000 Cut it off, Jamie!

00:59:13.000 What happened to you, USA? What happened to you?

00:59:17.000 What happened to you?

00:59:17.000 Hold on.

00:59:18.000 What's going on with you?

00:59:19.000 Forget!

00:59:20.000 Forget the best of the best of the world!

00:59:23.000 Forget!

00:59:24.000 You forget the best of the world!

00:59:27.000 Forget!

00:59:28.000 Go ahead.

00:59:29.000 The best of the world!

00:59:30.000 The name of Jesus Christ!

00:59:33.000 What happened to you?

00:59:34.000 What come, USA? What come, USA? Go!

00:59:36.000 Go back for you and go!

00:59:38.000 Go for Jesus!

00:59:40.000 Not for gay Jesus people!

00:59:41.000 Not for gay Jesus people!

00:59:43.000 Maybe, but maybe not forget Jesus.

00:59:46.000 It's like, what happened to you?

00:59:48.000 Not forget Jesus.

00:59:49.000 It wasn't like there was some gay thing that was going on that he was commenting on.

00:59:52.000 No, I know.

00:59:53.000 But he's so bad at English.

00:59:55.000 He's so bad.

00:59:56.000 It easily could be, don't forget Jesus.

01:00:00.000 He said, go for Jesus.

01:00:01.000 Don't forget Jesus.

01:00:03.000 The only problem is he goes, what's wrong with you, USA? What's wrong with you?

01:00:06.000 You forget the number one, Jesus.

01:00:09.000 What's wrong with you?

01:00:10.000 Go back.

01:00:12.000 Don't forget Jesus.

01:00:14.000 Maybe it's don't forget Jesus.

01:00:15.000 But he says don't forget, right?

01:00:17.000 One more time.

01:00:18.000 Because it doesn't make sense.

01:00:19.000 We're breaking this down.

01:00:21.000 First of all, pause for a second.

01:00:23.000 You've got to remember, he just got hit in the head.

01:00:27.000 What fight was this?

01:00:29.000 Do we remember?

01:00:29.000 And look, he's got John 316 or 318 on a bandana around his head.

01:00:35.000 He's got a Bible quote on his fucking head.

01:00:36.000 Go for Jesus, not for gay Jesus, people.

01:00:39.000 Go for Jesus, not forget Jesus.

01:00:42.000 You forget.

01:00:43.000 You forget Jesus?

01:00:45.000 It's possible.

01:00:47.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:00:47.000 It doesn't make sense, period, no matter what it is.

01:00:49.000 For him to say, not for gay Jesus, that doesn't make sense.

01:00:51.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:00:52.000 Jesus is not gay.

01:00:53.000 No, there's no rumors.

01:00:55.000 He's saying, don't forget Jesus.

01:00:56.000 We might have just started a rumor about Jesus being gay.

01:00:58.000 Imagine if we were the first ones, after all these years, like, this is what I heard about Jesus.

01:01:02.000 And then it becomes like, everybody's talking about it.

01:01:05.000 There was a scroll.

01:01:08.000 He really was gay.

01:01:08.000 Shut broke it down, shut shop down.

01:01:10.000 Jesus, who's gay?

01:01:11.000 Of course, he loves everybody.

01:01:13.000 It's confusing, though.

01:01:14.000 I can see how people mix those words.

01:01:16.000 Don't forget!

01:01:16.000 When we first watched it, I went, oh, he's going hard on the paint on the USA and gays.

01:01:20.000 But I remember thinking, when I heard it, that he was saying, don't forget, because a lot of Cubans, with that accent, they might say, don't forget!

01:01:29.000 Don't forget!

01:01:30.000 Don't forget we go out!

01:01:32.000 Don't forget, 8 o'clock, we be here!

01:01:34.000 They have that sort of way of talking, so when I hear, don't forget, I'm like, oh, he said, don't forget Jesus.

01:01:40.000 I'm going to assume he said, don't forget Jesus.

01:01:42.000 It doesn't make sense that we'd say, no, for gay Jesus.

01:01:45.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:01:46.000 The only problem is he kept saying, USA, you forget.

01:01:49.000 USA, you forget.

01:01:50.000 And then for gay.

01:01:51.000 For gay.

01:01:52.000 But he's barely speaking English, man.

01:01:54.000 No, it's barely.

01:01:54.000 It can barely.

01:01:55.000 That's not.

01:01:56.000 There's no way you should hold him accountable to be able to accentuate every word correctly.

01:02:00.000 But I think most people got over it.

01:02:03.000 And we just rehashed it.

01:02:04.000 Dude, we just rehashed it.

01:02:05.000 But listen, man, that guy is one of the most scary athletes I've ever seen in the UFC. When he knocked out Chris Wyden with that flying knee that just comes out of nowhere.

01:02:13.000 I mean, he does shit to people, man.

01:02:15.000 He throws people.

01:02:16.000 He took a fucking straight head kick from Derrick Brunson right to the neck.

01:02:21.000 Just walked it off like it was nothing.

01:02:23.000 Pretending like nothing happened.

01:02:24.000 Doesn't really use his wrestling either.

01:02:27.000 Well, he does a little, but really fucks people up.

01:02:28.000 But he doesn't really fuck with it.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, he just wants to knock your head off.

01:02:31.000 I think with his mass, right, the amount of muscle that he has.

01:02:35.000 So much muscle.

01:02:36.000 And the explosive energy required to try to take somebody down, I don't know if he can do that for five minutes for five rounds.

01:02:43.000 No, especially with a guy with takedown defense.

01:02:45.000 Yeah.

01:02:46.000 And then he's a little bit more vulnerable with his striking if he can't explode.

01:02:50.000 See, he's not a technical striker in the vein of Stylebender.

01:02:54.000 Stylebender's a technical striker.

01:02:56.000 Stylebender is setting you up.

01:02:57.000 He's giving you looks.

01:02:59.000 Send traps.

01:02:59.000 And then he's doing things to you to see how you respond.

01:03:02.000 And then he'll fake things and high kick you.

01:03:04.000 He'll do some shit to you that you don't know is coming.

01:03:06.000 Yoel's not that.

01:03:08.000 Yoel is exploding in a way that you can't handle.

01:03:11.000 You can't be on guard all the time.

01:03:13.000 You can't be like this because you're going to burn out.

01:03:15.000 So there's going to be a moment where you relax.

01:03:18.000 There's going to be a moment where you can't quite move out of the way quick enough, and that's when he's going to leap on you.

01:03:23.000 Boom!

01:03:24.000 And he hits you with that flying knee like you hit Wybin.

01:03:26.000 You're like, Jesus!

01:03:27.000 It's ridiculous.

01:03:28.000 I think for Stalben, though, and just looking up the matchup and what Stalben did to Robert Whittaker, I do think Izzy finishes him.

01:03:37.000 I do.

01:03:38.000 It's all about if Izzy can just keep him from taking him down.

01:03:40.000 Because if they're standing up...

01:03:43.000 The thing about Yoel is these leaps, these power, these giant explosive movements.

01:03:49.000 But Izzy's going to be aware of that.

01:03:51.000 He's going to try to stand on the outside.

01:03:53.000 He's seen that before.

01:03:53.000 Look at Robert Whitaker.

01:03:54.000 Never really had an opportunity to explode like that.

01:03:57.000 Izzy's so good at distance, and he's fought big, powerful guys before.

01:04:01.000 So he's seen that.

01:04:02.000 You know, the one guy that knocked out Izzy is starting to fight in MMA again.

01:04:06.000 That's Alex Pereira.

01:04:07.000 Do you know who he is?

01:04:08.000 He's fucking terrifying.

01:04:10.000 That dude is a ruthless striker.

01:04:13.000 How's his MMA coming, though?

01:04:14.000 I have no idea.

01:04:15.000 I know he talks shit to Izzy, but it's like...

01:04:17.000 That's because he KO'd him in a kickboxing fight.

01:04:19.000 He hit him with a horrific left hook.

01:04:22.000 Robert...

01:04:22.000 I mean, Alex Pereira fucks up everybody, man.

01:04:25.000 For sure.

01:04:25.000 MMA's a different animal.

01:04:26.000 Very different.

01:04:27.000 Different animal.

01:04:28.000 Very different animal.

01:04:29.000 But in kickboxing...

01:04:30.000 He has a ways to go.

01:04:30.000 It's too bad people don't know who that guy is.

01:04:33.000 I know.

01:04:34.000 You know, because in kickboxing...

01:04:35.000 I mean, you see what he did to Jason Wellness?

01:04:37.000 No.

01:04:37.000 Holy fuck, dude.

01:04:38.000 Tore him up.

01:04:39.000 Holy fuck.

01:04:40.000 I really fault kickboxing, man.

01:04:41.000 Pull up Alex Pereira versus Jason Willness in Glory.

01:04:46.000 It's for the world title.

01:04:47.000 Dude, he's a fucking Terminator.

01:04:49.000 He smashes people.

01:04:50.000 Who's he fighting with?

01:04:52.000 Well, it's all cool.

01:04:53.000 Is he just in some low level?

01:04:54.000 No, man.

01:04:54.000 He's fighting in Glory.

01:04:55.000 No, I'm saying MMA. Well, I don't know.

01:04:57.000 I have no idea.

01:04:58.000 I just heard that he's about to do it again.

01:05:00.000 I don't know if a matchup has even been announced.

01:05:03.000 But his fucking striking is so dangerous.

01:05:05.000 Because in a lot of ways, he reminds me...

01:05:08.000 He's big.

01:05:09.000 He's very big.

01:05:10.000 Not with the finality of the way Deontay Wilder punches, but with that kind of...

01:05:18.000 He's got that kind of ability to finish.

01:05:22.000 He's rangy like him.

01:05:22.000 Deontay is something special.

01:05:24.000 He really is.

01:05:25.000 He's 216 pounds.

01:05:26.000 Nobody knocks people out with a punch like that.

01:05:28.000 God's gift.

01:05:29.000 To the forehead.

01:05:30.000 I mean, I've never seen it.

01:05:32.000 He's like the new next level in terms of striking power.

01:05:35.000 You know Ruiz and Joshua's rematch is Saturday.

01:05:38.000 That's right.

01:05:39.000 That's right.

01:05:39.000 The 7th.

01:05:40.000 So in this fight, he sets him up and I think he hits him with a knee and then a high kick.

01:05:46.000 He stops him.

01:05:47.000 Or a high kick first and then a knee.

01:05:49.000 It's coming up here.

01:05:50.000 But Pereira is one of those guys where...

01:05:52.000 Okay, it's right there.

01:05:54.000 You just missed the knockdown.

01:05:55.000 Here it is.

01:05:56.000 Pereira is one of those guys that can really do this to anybody.

01:06:00.000 It's just a matter of if he hits you.

01:06:02.000 So, like, Willness is as tough as they come.

01:06:03.000 Boom!

01:06:04.000 There's the head kicked.

01:06:05.000 Goddamn.

01:06:05.000 Jason Willness is as tough as they come.

01:06:07.000 He's been in there with some fucking killers.

01:06:10.000 In fact, Izzy lost to Jason Willness by decision.

01:06:14.000 I thought it was kind of a bad decision.

01:06:17.000 I thought Stylebender won.

01:06:18.000 Oh, look at that.

01:06:19.000 That's it, man.

01:06:21.000 Back that up again.

01:06:22.000 I was talking.

01:06:23.000 Let's see that again.

01:06:24.000 Watch this.

01:06:25.000 This is how good Alex fucking Pereira is, son.

01:06:27.000 Watch this.

01:06:28.000 Boom!

01:06:29.000 One more time.

01:06:31.000 Look how good that knee is.

01:06:32.000 Watch that left knee.

01:06:33.000 Bam!

01:06:34.000 I mean, that shit's perfect.

01:06:36.000 Perfect.

01:06:37.000 Look at that again.

01:06:38.000 Watch this.

01:06:40.000 Boom!

01:06:40.000 I mean, that is a perfect flying knee.

01:06:43.000 And that's just how tough Jason Woolness is.

01:06:45.000 Where was his MMA fight, Jamie?

01:06:47.000 Do you know?

01:06:48.000 So he's got one for everybody.

01:06:51.000 If he can stop a takedown.

01:06:53.000 Remember Rico Van Hoeven came over?

01:06:55.000 Yeah, he was training at AK. Have we heard from him?

01:06:58.000 Did he just stop?

01:06:58.000 Well, Rico's got that rematch with Badr Hari.

01:07:00.000 In kickboxing.

01:07:01.000 Yeah, that's coming up real soon.

01:07:02.000 But I thought he was going to keep doing MMA and eventually come on over to the dark side.

01:07:08.000 I think he wants to do that after Badr Hari, but the Badr Hari fight is the biggest fight in all of kickboxing.

01:07:14.000 Okay, so he's had two fights that he won and one fight that he lost.

01:07:18.000 So he lost his MMA debut by submission, rear naked choke, but then he won two fights by KO and TKO. He hasn't fought in three years.

01:07:27.000 He's fighting in jungle fights, which is kind of like the LFA. Yeah, yeah.

01:07:32.000 But that was then.

01:07:33.000 I mean, who knows who he's fighting now.

01:07:35.000 But see if you can pull up Alice Pereira fight soon.

01:07:39.000 How old is he?

01:07:42.000 I don't want to say he's like 30. How old is he?

01:07:44.000 James, does it say?

01:07:46.000 32. 32. He hasn't fought in two years.

01:07:49.000 He'll be tough.

01:07:49.000 Well, it's all about whether or not he's got a ground game.

01:07:51.000 I don't know anything about his ground game.

01:07:53.000 All I know about is his striking is fucking ferocious.

01:07:57.000 Dude, he's so scary.

01:07:58.000 And he could do that to anybody.

01:07:59.000 If you could do that to Stylebender, you could fucking do that to anybody.

01:08:02.000 For sure.

01:08:03.000 And if you see the Stylebender fight, he catches him in a clean left hook and just shuts his lights out.

01:08:06.000 But shows you how good Stylebender is, too.

01:08:08.000 Yep.

01:08:09.000 Boom.

01:08:09.000 Look how good this guy is.

01:08:11.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:12.000 Bro.

01:08:13.000 But how about Stylebender has the skill set to fight a guy like that?

01:08:16.000 That wasn't Stylebender right there.

01:08:17.000 That was a different fight.

01:08:18.000 Was that different?

01:08:19.000 He's the current champion set of glory.

01:08:22.000 Yes.

01:08:22.000 He's two division champion.

01:08:24.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:24.000 Yeah, he's fighting 205 and 85. Right?

01:08:27.000 Is that the two differences in the weight classes?

01:08:29.000 I think so.

01:08:30.000 Either way.

01:08:31.000 Murderer.

01:08:31.000 Just a murderer.

01:08:33.000 Scary guy.

01:08:34.000 There's a...

01:08:38.000 There's everybody, and then there's Wilder.

01:08:40.000 There's everybody.

01:08:41.000 Everybody with power you've ever seen, and then there's Wilder.

01:08:44.000 Wilder's power is like, what is happening?

01:08:46.000 He's got super power.

01:08:48.000 Yeah, like his technique's not phenomenal.

01:08:51.000 Sometimes he throws from the hip.

01:08:53.000 It's just like when he touches you, it's over.

01:08:55.000 And here's the thing.

01:08:56.000 He's not like George Foreman or these bigger dudes.

01:08:59.000 He floats around 213 to 219. Yeah.

01:09:03.000 Big dude?

01:09:04.000 Not even remotely big.

01:09:05.000 It's insane, man.

01:09:06.000 It's insane.

01:09:07.000 When he hit Ortiz on the forehead and just...

01:09:10.000 And that's not an easy fight now.

01:09:12.000 Ortiz is a fucking monster.

01:09:13.000 No, and it showed.

01:09:14.000 I mean, Ortiz was winning in my book.

01:09:16.000 He was winning up to that punch.

01:09:17.000 And now you got Fury Wilder in February.

01:09:21.000 Dude.

01:09:21.000 Can't wait for that.

01:09:22.000 What do you think about Saturday Night?

01:09:24.000 What do you mean?

01:09:25.000 Oh, with Ruiz?

01:09:27.000 I think Joshua pieces him up.

01:09:28.000 You do?

01:09:28.000 I do.

01:09:29.000 Really?

01:09:29.000 I hate when people say, you know, oh, it's like a Buster Douglas situation.

01:09:33.000 It's not because...

01:09:34.000 Someone doesn't like Mexicans.

01:09:36.000 So, yeah.

01:09:42.000 We're kidding, folks.

01:09:43.000 Yeah, my girl's Mexican.

01:09:44.000 Both my kids are Mexican.

01:09:45.000 His kids are Mexican.

01:09:46.000 Yeah, my kids are Mexican, for God's sake.

01:09:47.000 Dude, Andy Ruiz has got a shot.

01:09:49.000 He has a shot, but because he was also...

01:09:51.000 It's not a fluke like Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, because Andy Ruiz was winning most of the fight before he even knocked him out.

01:09:58.000 He got knocked down third, but he was winning...

01:10:01.000 He had more rounds in the bank.

01:10:02.000 Well, he got knocked down, but then he got back up and knocked Joshua down.

01:10:05.000 Correct.

01:10:06.000 So he was ahead on the scorecards, too.

01:10:08.000 And then he just stopped them, right?

01:10:09.000 But I think it was the perfect storm for Anthony Joshua to lose the fight.

01:10:13.000 I think Joshua knows what he's dealing with.

01:10:15.000 Remember, that was a late replacement.

01:10:17.000 He was supposed to fight Big Baby Miller.

01:10:18.000 And also going into that camp, he was dealing with some personal issues, which everybody does.

01:10:23.000 But the other thing is, the rumor is he got knocked out in camp by a Philadelphia heavyweight.

01:10:28.000 Who's the guy?

01:10:29.000 Do you know?

01:10:29.000 I forget.

01:10:30.000 He's a stud.

01:10:31.000 I definitely heard the rumor from multiple different sources that he got knocked out.

01:10:33.000 Legit source I heard.

01:10:35.000 A guy who would know.

01:10:36.000 It seemed like it.

01:10:37.000 There was another rumor that he had a nervous breakdown in the locker room.

01:10:41.000 That he knew he shouldn't have been fighting.

01:10:42.000 And his dad was like, no, let's not go out there.

01:10:44.000 So that's why he sees his dad arguing with Eddie Hearn.

01:10:46.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 And here's what else is interesting, too, is now they're doing the rematch.

01:10:49.000 It's in Saudi Arabia.

01:10:51.000 They didn't have arena there.

01:10:53.000 They built it for this.

01:10:54.000 Seats 15,000 people.

01:10:55.000 So crazy.

01:10:56.000 He's making $75 million, some shit like that, for this fight.

01:11:01.000 And...

01:11:02.000 I think they know what's going on.

01:11:05.000 There's something going on because it's away from everything.

01:11:07.000 Media's not going to be the Saudi Arabia.

01:11:09.000 So there's like the pressure of the English crowds not there.

01:11:12.000 So they're trying to protect the golden goose here in Saudi Arabia.

01:11:15.000 Would you think he's the golden goose?

01:11:17.000 Here's what I think.

01:11:18.000 I think if Andy Ruiz knocks him out again, he's as big a golden goose as there is in the world.

01:11:23.000 Andy Ruiz?

01:11:24.000 You know how many fucking Mexicans there are, bro?

01:11:26.000 I don't have to tell you.

01:11:27.000 You made two yourself.

01:11:28.000 There's a lot of Mexicans.

01:11:29.000 A lot of Mexicans, man.

01:11:30.000 And the guy's soft-spoken.

01:11:32.000 He's a sweetheart.

01:11:33.000 He's got fantastic hands.

01:11:34.000 I mean, he's got a fluidity to him that you rarely see in the heavyweight division.

01:11:37.000 Whereas a lot of heavyweights, they're like big one-punch guys.

01:11:40.000 Andy Ruiz is like bobbing and weaving and throwing combinations.

01:11:44.000 But people are confused because if you've just discovered Andy Ruiz in the Anthony Joshua fight, he's not a finisher.

01:11:49.000 He's not a knockout artist.

01:11:50.000 That was just that fight.

01:11:52.000 It was balls to the wall.

01:11:52.000 He just had nothing to lose.

01:11:54.000 He was like playing with house money.

01:11:56.000 But now, he's a better pure boxer than Joshua, but Joshua, I bet you finishes him under 10. Interesting.

01:12:03.000 Yeah.

01:12:03.000 Well, he definitely hurt him in the first fight.

01:12:06.000 He hurt him first and then threw caution to the wind and got cracked.

01:12:10.000 Yep.

01:12:10.000 Because he underestimated Andy's resolve and his ability to recover from the big shot.

01:12:13.000 He didn't realize how good Andy is inside that close quarters.

01:12:16.000 Now imagine what would happen if instead of going crazy and trying to stop him, what if he just boxes on the outside and keeps trying to land a big shot.

01:12:24.000 Yeah, that's what he's gonna do.

01:12:25.000 Instead of going in like he did in the first fight.

01:12:27.000 Correct.

01:12:27.000 And then Ruiz, I think, is going to stand outside, use a jab, set him up.

01:12:31.000 He's going to win rounds with footwork and boxing in the jab.

01:12:35.000 And then eventually, 6, 7, 8, Ruiz is going to be way down on the cards and be like, all right, fuck it, go for a broken.

01:12:40.000 I think he gets caught coming in.

01:12:42.000 Interesting prediction.

01:12:43.000 Who knows?

01:12:44.000 It's boxing.

01:12:45.000 I feel like Ruiz is going to have incredible confidence because he's going into this fight knowing that he's able to beat the heavyweight champion of the world, win the title, and he's got a fucking Rolls Royce now, okay?

01:12:55.000 He's going in there with champ attitude.

01:12:57.000 You think?

01:12:58.000 Yes.

01:12:58.000 Or is he going there doubting himself?

01:12:59.000 I don't think so.

01:13:00.000 One or two things.

01:13:01.000 I don't think so.

01:13:01.000 You think he realized he can hang with the champ?

01:13:03.000 Yes.

01:13:03.000 He knocked him out.

01:13:04.000 He won the title.

01:13:04.000 I think he's the fucking champ.

01:13:05.000 And I think he's got more love and more respect than he's ever had in his life.

01:13:10.000 Oh, 100%.

01:13:10.000 And I think he likes it.

01:13:11.000 100%.

01:13:11.000 And he seems like he's having a good time.

01:13:13.000 I think we see an even better Andy Ruiz.

01:13:15.000 You think he beats him?

01:13:16.000 Yep.

01:13:16.000 I don't know.

01:13:17.000 I don't know if he beats him.

01:13:18.000 But I think he's going to be better.

01:13:19.000 I think Joshua's going to be better, too.

01:13:21.000 I think both guys realize.

01:13:22.000 A better Joshua.

01:13:23.000 But also, if Joshua loses his fight, it's like, where does he go from here?

01:13:26.000 I don't know, man.

01:13:27.000 I don't know.

01:13:28.000 I mean, look, you tell me you wouldn't want to see Joshua Wilder?

01:13:31.000 I'll watch Joshua Fury all goddamn day.

01:13:34.000 I'll watch that, too.

01:13:34.000 I think Wilder knocks Joshua Cole.

01:13:36.000 I want to see everything.

01:13:37.000 Me, too.

01:13:37.000 I want to see it all.

01:13:38.000 I want to see everything.

01:13:38.000 I want to see all of it.

01:13:40.000 I think Andy lost weight.

01:13:42.000 What does Andy weigh now?

01:13:45.000 I think he's down.

01:13:46.000 His speed's trouble, man.

01:13:47.000 Dude, his combinations.

01:13:48.000 He's so fluid.

01:13:50.000 So silky smooth.

01:13:50.000 People forget about Joshua, though, man.

01:13:52.000 You gotta remember.

01:13:52.000 Can't forget.

01:13:53.000 Dude was a gold.

01:13:54.000 And he got dropped by Vladimir Klitschko.

01:13:56.000 Remember that?

01:13:57.000 Came back and fucked him up.

01:13:59.000 Flatlined him.

01:13:59.000 He has to beat Dillian White.

01:14:00.000 His resume's insane.

01:14:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:03.000 I mean, Olympic gold medalist.

01:14:05.000 And probably the best body in the history of the division.

01:14:08.000 That boy's bodied up.

01:14:09.000 Seriously.

01:14:10.000 Especially when he fought Ruiz, he was a little thick.

01:14:13.000 I think he's lost a little weight himself.

01:14:15.000 I think one of the things he's done is he's gone less strength and conditioning and more pure boxing.

01:14:21.000 He was so big.

01:14:22.000 He was talking about that.

01:14:23.000 He said essentially his word, the way he described it is, I was listening to this interview with him, some English gentleman, and he was saying that, you think about it, you have 100% of your energy.

01:14:33.000 If you put 50% of it to strength and conditioning and 50% of it to boxing, you're not going to achieve the same amount as if you put 100% to boxing.

01:14:39.000 Something to that effect.

01:14:40.000 So the idea is he's doing less road work, he's doing more conditioning in the gym, and he's doing heavy bags, mitts.

01:14:45.000 It's smart.

01:14:46.000 Yeah.

01:14:46.000 It's because if you look at Andy Ruiz's kind of advantages over and be speed combinations, so you don't want to just be this big heavy bulk.

01:14:54.000 Also, if you're looking at future matchups, Fury and Wilder, they're all lighter on the feet, move better, better cardio.

01:15:01.000 So how much weight has he lost?

01:15:02.000 This is him.

01:15:03.000 This is Joshua.

01:15:04.000 He said he's taken on a prison workout mindset for this fight.

01:15:08.000 Well, his career is on the line, I think.

01:15:11.000 Here's the thing, too.

01:15:12.000 And it's the same with Conor McGregor.

01:15:14.000 Conor's career is on the line as well against Cowboy.

01:15:16.000 Oh, for sure.

01:15:17.000 So when you put these guys...

01:15:21.000 Andrew East has tricked fans into thinking he's lost weight.

01:15:24.000 He did that Burt Kreischer trick for this picture, he said, where he lifted his arms up in the air.

01:15:29.000 Burt Kreischer trick.

01:15:30.000 First of all, how dare you?

01:15:32.000 Did he quote Burt Kreischer, though?

01:15:34.000 No, no.

01:15:34.000 I wish he did.

01:15:35.000 He looks exactly the same.

01:15:36.000 He's exactly the same.

01:15:37.000 More recent training video where he looks the same.

01:15:39.000 Let me see.

01:15:40.000 Even fatter, he said.

01:15:42.000 There's a video of him hitting the shield, and he misses and catches his trainer on the chin.

01:15:49.000 Get a little wild!

01:15:50.000 Fuck.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, he drops his trainer.

01:15:52.000 I would be worried about Andy Ruiz.

01:15:54.000 You know, he hasn't seen the spotlight in that money, and there's the Rolls Royce, and he might have been parting San Diego.

01:15:58.000 I'd be worried about him.

01:16:00.000 I'd be worried about him, you know, being like, oh, this is the life.

01:16:04.000 Yeah, that's possible.

01:16:06.000 But I don't think so.

01:16:08.000 I think he's a disciplined guy.

01:16:11.000 I think he just is wild.

01:16:13.000 And just loves food.

01:16:14.000 He can't be that disciplined with that body.

01:16:16.000 No, no, no.

01:16:16.000 He looks a certain way that you're not going to get away with...

01:16:22.000 Discipline doesn't come when it comes to food.

01:16:25.000 Well, it's not going to win any best body contests, but he fucks a lot of people up.

01:16:29.000 Fucks a lot of people up.

01:16:30.000 I don't think he's going to trick Joshua this time, though.

01:16:32.000 I think the first time he tricked him, Joshua's probably looking at him like, I'm going to fuck this boy.

01:16:36.000 Joshua's like, oh, that's what you do?

01:16:38.000 I've seen this in the millions of fights I've had in the Olympics.

01:16:41.000 Watch this.

01:16:42.000 That's what I think is going to happen.

01:16:44.000 Now, if Ruiz wins, alright.

01:16:45.000 But, you know, I just don't see it, man.

01:16:49.000 It's so interesting because it becomes as big a fight as Wilder Fury 2. It becomes a giant fight.

01:16:55.000 Wilder Fury 2, to me, is the heavyweight fight.

01:16:57.000 That's the heavyweight fight.

01:16:58.000 I'm really interested in this fight.

01:17:00.000 Joshua's third, I think.

01:17:02.000 It used to be Joshua No.

01:17:04.000 1, the golden child.

01:17:05.000 Obviously, he lost, so he fell off.

01:17:06.000 But Wilder and Fury have just been doing their thing, man.

01:17:09.000 Well, the fight that I want to see more than anything is Wilder Fury 2. That's the number one.

01:17:13.000 Me too.

01:17:13.000 Just because the first one was so controversial.

01:17:15.000 And fantastic.

01:17:16.000 So good.

01:17:17.000 And, you know, I re-watched it yesterday, in fact.

01:17:20.000 You can make a real, real solid argument that Tyson Fury got robbed.

01:17:25.000 Oh, 100%.

01:17:26.000 The only argument for Deontay Wilder is, you know, he did knock him down.

01:17:33.000 Oh, if the fight was a fight, if it was a fight fight, you know, like in the streets, and two guys were going at it like that, and one guy dropped the guy and blasted him, and then dropped him in the end, and he was laying on his back, and he got up, and, you know, at the end of the round, they decided it was the end of the fight, you would say, man, I think he won.

01:17:49.000 He fucked that dude up.

01:17:50.000 But as far as boxing rules go...

01:17:52.000 It's a boxing contest.

01:17:53.000 Fury won that fight.

01:17:54.000 Fury won the boxing contest.

01:17:55.000 But Deontay Wilder, man.

01:17:57.000 I like the draw, though, because Deontay Wilder did the most damage in the fight.

01:18:01.000 So I was like, when it was a draw, I'm like, oh, I dig that.

01:18:04.000 Here's the argument against the draw, though.

01:18:06.000 He gets dropped.

01:18:07.000 Tyson Fury gets dropped in the final round, right?

01:18:10.000 Loses one point for sure, right?

01:18:12.000 It's definitely now a 10-8 round for Deontay Wilder after that knockdown.

01:18:17.000 It was a bad knockdown.

01:18:18.000 But then he gets up and wins the rest of the round.

01:18:20.000 Wins the rest of the round.

01:18:21.000 So what do you say there?

01:18:22.000 You give him a point for that.

01:18:23.000 No, Fury won the fight.

01:18:25.000 So what is it?

01:18:25.000 9-8?

01:18:27.000 What is that then?

01:18:28.000 If it's a 10-point must system, how does that work?

01:18:31.000 Does that mean...

01:18:32.000 Then would it go back to even?

01:18:33.000 Can you have a 7-7 round if you both drop each other twice?

01:18:36.000 I don't think so.

01:18:38.000 I don't think so.

01:18:38.000 No.

01:18:38.000 Right?

01:18:39.000 What happens there?

01:18:40.000 I don't know.

01:18:41.000 Imagine if guys just like...

01:18:42.000 But wouldn't it just go back to...

01:18:43.000 You wouldn't score that round 10-8, you'd do it 10-9.

01:18:45.000 Shouldn't we know this?

01:18:46.000 It'd just be a 10-9.

01:18:47.000 I should definitely know this.

01:18:49.000 We're not boxing judges.

01:18:50.000 But we use the same scores in the UFC, don't they?

01:18:53.000 Dude, does this not worry you at all?

01:18:56.000 So Khabib, Tony, I'm like, fuck yeah, finally.

01:18:59.000 Best fight, skill-wise, all-time lightweight division.

01:19:02.000 One of the best fights the UFC could ever make.

01:19:03.000 But same place, Brooklyn.

01:19:06.000 Brooklyn might have voodoo.

01:19:07.000 Why are we doing it there, dude?

01:19:08.000 I don't know, man.

01:19:09.000 And guess who's the doctor?

01:19:11.000 Probably homeboy freaked out when he saw blood on Nate Diaz.

01:19:14.000 Oh, that's right.

01:19:14.000 So he's a doctor?

01:19:15.000 You don't think Tony Ferg's gonna be using those elbows?

01:19:18.000 Oh my god, that's so true.

01:19:19.000 Doc, take a fucking hike.

01:19:21.000 That's so true.

01:19:21.000 He's gonna be using those elbows from the bottom too, son.

01:19:23.000 He's not scared of getting taken down.

01:19:25.000 Not at all.

01:19:26.000 Not at all.

01:19:27.000 Enjoys it.

01:19:28.000 Mike's fighting off his back.

01:19:29.000 He loves it.

01:19:29.000 You're gonna get that fight.

01:19:30.000 I think you're gonna get one of the greatest trilogies of...

01:19:34.000 He can scramble in a way that other guys can't.

01:19:38.000 When you look at the matchups, you're just like, holy shit, Tony is a perfect kind of foe for Khabib.

01:19:45.000 Well, particularly because he's so good at submitting people from his back.

01:19:49.000 With everything.

01:19:50.000 With arms and with legs.

01:19:52.000 I mean, he beat Kevin Lee with a triangle.

01:19:54.000 Think about how many people he darsed.

01:19:55.000 How about that Barboza fight?

01:19:57.000 Remember that fight?

01:19:57.000 So he darsed a guy that's completely covered in blood, which is so hard to do.

01:20:02.000 Here's the other thing you've got to remember.

01:20:03.000 Tony doesn't get tired.

01:20:05.000 Doesn't get tired.

01:20:06.000 It's a wave.

01:20:07.000 It's a slow wave.

01:20:09.000 So in the fifth, he's actually better than he was in the first.

01:20:10.000 How is that possible?

01:20:11.000 What the fuck is he doing, strength and conditioning-wise, that other people are not?

01:20:15.000 He's just always been that way.

01:20:16.000 I think it's a genetic thing.

01:20:18.000 I used to train with Tony at RAIN. He would spar with everybody else, keep going to guys like, I'm good, then go to the bag or run sprints.

01:20:26.000 He's just...

01:20:27.000 It's just in his DNA to keep going.

01:20:29.000 You talked to Eddie about it.

01:20:30.000 Like, dude, he's doing six-hour-long practices.

01:20:32.000 Yeah, they said there's no one like him, and they said that everybody else gets exhausted.

01:20:36.000 All the people that train with him, they're all getting exhausted.

01:20:38.000 And he's lapping them, running hills.

01:20:40.000 Does his hill sprints?

01:20:41.000 Laps, everybody.

01:20:42.000 I mean, just a freak.

01:20:43.000 Like the Cain Velasquez thing, we're like, what the fuck's going on here?

01:20:46.000 What is happening there?

01:20:47.000 You know what it is?

01:20:48.000 Both Mexican.

01:20:49.000 Dude, there's something about that.

01:20:51.000 Something there.

01:20:51.000 Gilbert Melendez, too, back in his prime, known for having cardio.

01:20:55.000 Actually, he said it.

01:20:55.000 I think a lot of his powerful Mexican genetics.

01:20:59.000 Mexican DNA. Listen, man, you know how many endurance athletes- Andy Ruiz says, hold my ham sandwich.

01:21:06.000 I think it's a meatball sub.

01:21:08.000 Maybe some quesadillas.

01:21:11.000 Hold my fucking tamale real quick.

01:21:13.000 If he wins, dude, come on, man.

01:21:14.000 You know what kind of celebration we're going to have in LA? If he beats Ruiz?

01:21:18.000 You think?

01:21:18.000 If he beats Joshua, rather?

01:21:19.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:21:20.000 I mean, Canelo's the fucking guy for Mexicans.

01:21:23.000 He's the fucking man, too.

01:21:24.000 Here's the really crazy thing.

01:21:26.000 Ready for this?

01:21:26.000 Yeah.

01:21:27.000 If Andy Ruiz lost all the fat on his body, how much do you think he'd weigh?

01:21:31.000 135. He's a son of a bitch.

01:21:37.000 He's a son of a bitch.

01:21:38.000 I know.

01:21:39.000 No disrespect.

01:21:40.000 No disrespect.

01:21:41.000 It's all disrespect.

01:21:43.000 I think he's probably 250, right?

01:21:46.000 250, 260. He's not tall either, man.

01:21:49.000 He's maybe 6'1", 6'2".

01:21:51.000 Six foot tall.

01:21:51.000 Six foot?

01:21:52.000 Okay.

01:21:52.000 And that's on there, so it's really 5'11".

01:21:55.000 And what's his weight?

01:21:56.000 Oh, boys.

01:21:58.000 I want to say it's $2.50.

01:22:00.000 You say $2.50?

01:22:01.000 It's thick like a bowl of guacamole.

01:22:02.000 Yeah, $2.50 guacamole is so thick.

01:22:05.000 It's so thick.

01:22:06.000 Guacamole is the thickest.

01:22:07.000 You can't drink that?

01:22:09.000 No, it's the thickest.

01:22:10.000 You can drink yogurt.

01:22:11.000 You can't drink guacamole.

01:22:13.000 They make yogurt drinks.

01:22:15.000 They don't make guacamole drinks.

01:22:16.000 It's so great.

01:22:17.000 Get the fuck out of here.

01:22:18.000 What do we got?

01:22:19.000 I'm a fan of him.

01:22:20.000 I just think...

01:22:22.000 Oh, did he really weigh 262?

01:22:23.000 It wasn't his last fight, but he fought at 262. What was he against Anthony Joshua in the first fight?

01:22:31.000 Dude, 5'11", 262?

01:22:33.000 That boy is...

01:22:34.000 He can lose a little.

01:22:36.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:22:37.000 Or not.

01:22:37.000 Or he's just like, why, dude?

01:22:39.000 I'm the heavyweight champion of the world.

01:22:41.000 He has three belts.

01:22:43.000 He has more belts than Wilder.

01:22:44.000 He has more belts than anybody.

01:22:45.000 But here's an argument that I always used to make about Roy Nelson, is that he could take body shots better because it's like he's wearing eight sweaters.

01:22:51.000 Yeah.

01:22:52.000 100%, man.

01:22:53.000 Right.

01:22:53.000 And they hit like a Mack truck.

01:22:55.000 Yeah, dude, very similar, both of them.

01:22:57.000 But if you think about, like, Roy's belly, Roy would take a shot to the belly like it was nothing.

01:23:01.000 Dude, people would kick him.

01:23:02.000 Remember, like, Frank was kicking him.

01:23:05.000 Everybody's kicking him.

01:23:06.000 Krokop rocked him in the stomach.

01:23:07.000 Yeah, 260. He's the only guy.

01:23:09.000 It listed, I couldn't find it in pounds, it was listed as 19 stones and 2 pounds, so I had to fucking convert it.

01:23:13.000 So is that 268?

01:23:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:15.000 You 270, bro.

01:23:16.000 5'11", 270?

01:23:18.000 He's a little thick.

01:23:19.000 Leave him alone.

01:23:20.000 Isn't it weird?

01:23:21.000 Because think about it, he trains hard.

01:23:23.000 He trains hard, but he must eat the shit out of some Mexican food.

01:23:26.000 Mexican genetics, dude.

01:23:28.000 Mexican food, too, will pack on the pounds.

01:23:30.000 If you're looking at some calorie-dense food, there's a place up here.

01:23:34.000 Is that place on Canoga?

01:23:36.000 Where is that place?

01:23:37.000 That Mexican joint that we go to?

01:23:38.000 Talking about Seoul?

01:23:39.000 No, no, no.

01:23:39.000 Have you been to Seoul?

01:23:40.000 It's one of the best places.

01:23:41.000 This is one little joint.

01:23:42.000 I don't even want to say the name because I don't want them to get flooded.

01:23:45.000 Oh, don't, because I need a spot around here.

01:23:47.000 It's so good, dude.

01:23:47.000 It's so good.

01:23:48.000 It's so authentic.

01:23:48.000 You go in, the Mexican soap operas are playing.

01:23:51.000 Nobody speaks English.

01:23:52.000 Oh, my girl's going to freak out.

01:23:53.000 Really?

01:23:54.000 You're going to love it.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, they've got those pickled jalapenos with onions.

01:23:58.000 Tell me off here.

01:23:58.000 A big old candy.

01:23:59.000 I'm going to stop there on the way home.

01:24:00.000 I'm going to freak the fuck out.

01:24:01.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:24:02.000 They've got lengua quesadillas.

01:24:03.000 My baby's six days old.

01:24:04.000 Already eating jalapenos, dude.

01:24:06.000 It's just fucking...

01:24:07.000 Crack over the beer, wear the sombrero.

01:24:09.000 Woo!

01:24:14.000 If I had one food forever, it might be Mexican.

01:24:17.000 Mexican or Italian?

01:24:18.000 Yeah, one of those two.

01:24:19.000 If I could only have one thing forever, like a specific ethnic food.

01:24:24.000 Mexican's so good.

01:24:25.000 Although it's kind of...

01:24:26.000 Well, you know what?

01:24:26.000 I might say Brazilian.

01:24:28.000 Really?

01:24:29.000 I might say Churras Correa.

01:24:30.000 If I had one...

01:24:31.000 All the meats?

01:24:31.000 Yeah.

01:24:32.000 I wouldn't miss the meat.

01:24:34.000 Yeah.

01:24:35.000 Dude, you got carne asada with Mexican though, dude.

01:24:38.000 Oh, that's true.

01:24:39.000 Whew.

01:24:39.000 That's true.

01:24:40.000 Carne asada?

01:24:41.000 Yeah, but if there's a Mexican joint next to a fogo de chow...

01:24:46.000 You know what?

01:24:47.000 I'm not a big fogo de chow guy.

01:24:49.000 Stresses me out.

01:24:49.000 I gotta flip the green.

01:24:51.000 They just keep coming.

01:24:52.000 I'm sweating.

01:24:53.000 And I don't eat the salad bar.

01:24:56.000 I'm like, you ain't funny dick me on that, dude.

01:24:58.000 That's how you keep your own digestive tract clean.

01:25:00.000 You need some fiber.

01:25:01.000 Nah, fuck that.

01:25:01.000 I only eat the filet.

01:25:03.000 The real expensive one.

01:25:04.000 I'm like, you know what I'm looking for.

01:25:05.000 You like the filet?

01:25:06.000 Oh, dude.

01:25:06.000 I forget what is the way to go.

01:25:08.000 I think that's it.

01:25:09.000 Top roast?

01:25:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:10.000 Oh, it's real pink?

01:25:12.000 When they bring the chicken or the sausage, I'm like, bitch, I didn't come here for sausage.

01:25:17.000 Go get the fucking red meat, bro.

01:25:20.000 What's with the dried tomatoes?

01:25:21.000 Oh, my God.

01:25:23.000 Dude.

01:25:26.000 Get the fuck out of my face, dude.

01:25:28.000 I know you could put away some food.

01:25:30.000 I guarantee you, Ari Shafir will eat you under the table in that place.

01:25:34.000 I agree.

01:25:34.000 I don't eat that much food.

01:25:36.000 But you can if you wanted to.

01:25:37.000 I could.

01:25:37.000 You could.

01:25:38.000 You got a lot of room.

01:25:39.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:25:39.000 You're a big fella.

01:25:40.000 I'm bigger than Ari.

01:25:40.000 Ari Shafir, I'm telling you, I've never seen nothing like it.

01:25:44.000 He can eat.

01:25:44.000 He just goes for plates and plates.

01:25:45.000 All of us, including Diaz.

01:25:47.000 It's always the skinny guy.

01:25:48.000 We're all sitting back.

01:25:48.000 Sitting back going, what the fuck is going on?

01:25:50.000 He's like, it's free.

01:25:51.000 It's free.

01:25:51.000 Eat as much as you want.

01:25:52.000 I'm gonna keep eating.

01:25:53.000 So I think Ari, when he knows he's gonna go to Fogo the Child, he like won't eat for like a day.

01:25:59.000 That's the Jew in him, man.

01:26:00.000 He's just gangster about it.

01:26:02.000 I think it's competitive as well.

01:26:04.000 It's competitive as fuck.

01:26:05.000 You think you're going to make me pay this much and I'm not going to eat more than that's worth?

01:26:09.000 Dude, we had Dan Soder on.

01:26:12.000 Do you know who the comic?

01:26:13.000 Yeah, comic.

01:26:13.000 Funny guy, man.

01:26:14.000 He's the best.

01:26:15.000 He's got a new HBO special, right?

01:26:17.000 Yeah, damn.

01:26:17.000 He's from Aurora.

01:26:19.000 We played against each other in high school.

01:26:21.000 Oh, no shit.

01:26:21.000 What did he play?

01:26:22.000 He played linebacker at Smokey Hill.

01:26:24.000 I played at Overland.

01:26:25.000 So we know each other.

01:26:26.000 That's hilarious.

01:26:27.000 Yeah, so we had him on the show today.

01:26:28.000 But he was talking about how the culture in LA, the comics, how they help each other out.

01:26:33.000 And I was like, well, that's because Joe Rogan is the guy that cultivated that kind of atmosphere where...

01:26:40.000 We help each other out in the podcast game and the comics.

01:26:42.000 Joe's the one who started that.

01:26:44.000 And he goes, you know who starred in New York?

01:26:45.000 And I'm like, I don't see it in New York.

01:26:47.000 I know you guys.

01:26:47.000 And Andrew Schultz is kind of part of the squad over here now.

01:26:50.000 And he goes, when Ari moved from L.A. because of Joe, when Ari moved from L.A., came to New York, he came in there and was like, what the fuck's wrong with you guys?

01:26:58.000 What's wrong with you guys?

01:26:59.000 And just kind of took over.

01:27:01.000 I was like, no, no, we're going to help each other out, man.

01:27:03.000 And he learned that, obviously, you and Ari are close.

01:27:05.000 But he took that same attitude and brought it to New York.

01:27:07.000 That's interesting.

01:27:08.000 My take on it was always you should treat it like martial arts.

01:27:11.000 Like, we're in there doing battle.

01:27:13.000 It's not us versus us.

01:27:15.000 And if you're better, I get better.

01:27:16.000 It's better for everybody.

01:27:18.000 And we got into this because we're fans of comedy.

01:27:21.000 I got into comedy because I loved watching it.

01:27:23.000 I want to watch it.

01:27:25.000 I want to watch Diaz.

01:27:26.000 I want to watch Theo.

01:27:28.000 I want to watch Count.

01:27:29.000 I want to watch you.

01:27:30.000 I want to watch people kill.

01:27:32.000 But we're all friends, though, too.

01:27:33.000 I want to watch McCoskey.

01:27:34.000 It's also your friends.

01:27:35.000 I don't want to see anybody bomb.

01:27:36.000 I know we laugh when someone bombs, but...

01:27:39.000 Dude, we know so many good comics.

01:27:40.000 Bill Burr.

01:27:41.000 I mean, God the fucking shit.

01:27:43.000 There's so many of them now.

01:27:45.000 Delia.

01:27:45.000 There's so many murders.

01:27:46.000 Whitney.

01:27:47.000 There's a bunch of murders.

01:27:49.000 Bert.

01:27:50.000 Schultz.

01:27:50.000 Dude, there's so many.

01:27:52.000 Mark Norman.

01:27:52.000 Schultz is murdered.

01:27:53.000 Mark Norman's hilarious.

01:27:54.000 There's so many good comics now.

01:27:56.000 And if you really love comedy, we're supposed to do that for each other.

01:28:01.000 There's not many of us, man.

01:28:03.000 The idea that your success somehow or another is bad for me, that's crazy.

01:28:07.000 What am I going to be in Tennessee when you're in Tennessee?

01:28:09.000 Are you going to come follow me around?

01:28:12.000 We're going to battle for the same customers?

01:28:13.000 There's fucking people everywhere!

01:28:14.000 There's 300 million people!

01:28:16.000 We've also done shows in the same town, and you're doing these giant arenas.

01:28:20.000 Yeah, we just did that.

01:28:21.000 And I'm doing the improv, and they all sell out.

01:28:23.000 Everything's selling out.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, dude, we have a unique thing, and this unique thing is really only appreciated by...

01:28:32.000 By the people that are doing it like everybody that's doing it Like realizes like this is unusual.

01:28:39.000 We haven't had this before but but I think it comes from you You need someone in your position to do them people.

01:28:43.000 Oh, that's a he's killing and he's nice like that.

01:28:47.000 Oh, that makes sense I think that's where it comes from.

01:28:50.000 I'm very happy.

01:28:50.000 I'm very happy because it's a different feel.

01:28:54.000 It's a different time.

01:28:55.000 When I was coming up in my early days, the Comedy Store was very backstabby.

01:29:01.000 People didn't help anybody and they weren't happy when you got good things.

01:29:07.000 There just wasn't a lot of camaraderie.

01:29:09.000 Me and Diaz, that was my first real comrade at the store.

01:29:14.000 You know, when I became like really good friends with Joey.

01:29:17.000 Because I realized like Joey's like a real guy.

01:29:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:20.000 He's the best guy.

01:29:21.000 He's an animal.

01:29:22.000 Like he grew up.

01:29:23.000 I mean, when I met him, it was only a few years after you get released for armed kidnapping.

01:29:28.000 But I knew who he was.

01:29:30.000 Like I got it.

01:29:31.000 I go, I'm like, this is a man.

01:29:33.000 Like I'm his friend.

01:29:35.000 We're friends.

01:29:36.000 I'm that guy's friends to the death.

01:29:38.000 I'm his friend to the death.

01:29:40.000 And I know that about him with me.

01:29:42.000 100%.

01:29:43.000 We became friends, like, real early on in our life.

01:29:46.000 And you guys would go on the road together?

01:29:47.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:29:48.000 I would eat it, man.

01:29:49.000 I ate it going on after him once in Jersey.

01:29:52.000 Oh, dude.

01:29:53.000 I wasn't ready.

01:29:54.000 I'd only been doing comedy.

01:29:55.000 You gotta realize, when I came out to LA, I'd only been doing comedy six years.

01:30:00.000 2, 4, 6, 84. 94, yes.

01:30:02.000 Were you headlining in six years?

01:30:03.000 Yes.

01:30:04.000 And I shouldn't have been, you know?

01:30:06.000 And I ate it a few times.

01:30:07.000 I ate it once.

01:30:08.000 I was headlining four years in, and Jim Brewer made me fucking go down in flames.

01:30:14.000 It was one of the most horrific bombings of my career.

01:30:18.000 But I learned something out of it.

01:30:19.000 One, I learned by watching Jim.

01:30:21.000 Jim was murdering, just destroying.

01:30:24.000 And two, I learned that I was nervous.

01:30:25.000 I was real nervous before I went on.

01:30:27.000 I wasn't enjoying him.

01:30:29.000 I wasn't laughing at him.

01:30:30.000 Instead, I was scared.

01:30:31.000 I was sitting back there scared that I had to go next.

01:30:34.000 How am I going to follow this?

01:30:35.000 Instead of laughing and enjoying it and going up there as a guy who's having a good time and wants everybody to have a good time, I was going up there selfish.

01:30:48.000 I wasn't thinking about having a good time.

01:30:50.000 I wasn't thinking about being the director of having a good time.

01:30:53.000 So I had to learn that with Diaz.

01:30:56.000 I learned that with Brewer for sure, but I never had to follow Brewer again after that other than maybe like a small spot at the Boston Comedy or Caroline's or something like that, but not when he was doing like a half an hour.

01:31:10.000 He was the middle and I was a headliner.

01:31:11.000 I wasn't supposed to be a fucking headliner.

01:31:13.000 You know Brewer's doing like, he's opened up for a while, he did Metallica.

01:31:17.000 Yeah, but Metallica, didn't they, I think Hatfield just checked into rehab.

01:31:21.000 Yeah, I know.

01:31:21.000 So they had to stop doing it.

01:31:24.000 Brewer's a monster.

01:31:25.000 Monster.

01:31:26.000 People forget.

01:31:26.000 But me taking Diaz on the road with me, first of all, I knew, like, I want to take guys on the road with me that can hang.

01:31:35.000 That we're fun.

01:31:36.000 We can talk shit.

01:31:37.000 We can have fun.

01:31:38.000 We can go to dinner and laugh.

01:31:40.000 Yes.

01:31:40.000 Like, you go to dinner with Joey Diaz.

01:31:41.000 You've been to dinner with us.

01:31:42.000 It's the goddamn Joey Diaz show.

01:31:44.000 The best.

01:31:44.000 We're just crying.

01:31:45.000 And he knows that we love him, and he knows we're giant fans.

01:31:49.000 He turns it on.

01:31:50.000 So he turns it on.

01:31:50.000 I gotta tell everybody, that's the funniest person that's ever walked the face of the earth.

01:31:54.000 He said things that I couldn't believe he fucking said in restaurants.

01:31:58.000 We're falling on the ground, pounding the carpet under the table.

01:32:01.000 Can't breathe.

01:32:02.000 Can't breathe.

01:32:03.000 And he's like...

01:32:04.000 The best.

01:32:05.000 The best.

01:32:06.000 He's a fucking animal.

01:32:07.000 But to have a guy like that...

01:32:10.000 And to go on a road with a guy like that, you also have to be sharp.

01:32:13.000 Like, you have to pick your game up.

01:32:16.000 I mean, it's basically you're sparring with the best of the best.

01:32:18.000 You can't slack off.

01:32:20.000 No.

01:32:20.000 You just can't.

01:32:21.000 There's none of that.

01:32:22.000 You can't do that.

01:32:22.000 You have to be ready.

01:32:23.000 And you have to enjoy it.

01:32:24.000 So what I learned to do, instead of being scared to go on after him, which I definitely was a couple of times, Particularly that one time in Jersey.

01:32:31.000 I remember I did okay.

01:32:33.000 I did good.

01:32:34.000 Like, I didn't bomb.

01:32:35.000 But there was moments where it was rough.

01:32:37.000 It was today I'd want to kill myself.

01:32:39.000 But back then I wasn't that good anyway, you know what I mean?

01:32:42.000 I could barely get through it anyway.

01:32:43.000 But I remember it was like, whoa.

01:32:47.000 There was like ten whole minutes where I was struggling before I picked it up.

01:32:50.000 It was bombing.

01:32:52.000 It wasn't the worst kind of bombing where they don't clap when you leave.

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:57.000 But...

01:32:58.000 I've had that, man.

01:33:00.000 That's rough.

01:33:01.000 Thank you, goodnight.

01:33:01.000 There's nothing.

01:33:02.000 They're like, fuck you.

01:33:03.000 You're like, whoa, sorry.

01:33:05.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to bomb like that.

01:33:07.000 But I definitely wasn't as funny as him.

01:33:10.000 I wasn't expecting to do this, fellas.

01:33:12.000 But then we all started hanging out together, right?

01:33:15.000 And then it was like Ari and Red Band and Duncan.

01:33:19.000 And we all supported each other.

01:33:20.000 And we all started just spreading this idea.

01:33:23.000 We're all friends.

01:33:26.000 Just because we're all doing the same job, we're not in competition with each other.

01:33:30.000 We're supposed to be the opposite.

01:33:32.000 We're supposed to be in support of each other.

01:33:34.000 And then if you do that, then we can bring other people along too.

01:33:38.000 And instead of it being a network like NBC or ABC or CBS or whatever, these people you don't know.

01:33:43.000 And their job is just to find people that they can sell on television.

01:33:48.000 They're trying to find...

01:33:50.000 They're trying to find a product, whether it's The Tonight Show or it's Friends or whatever the show is.

01:33:54.000 They're trying to figure out how something could go in there and everybody feels like they're competing for that.

01:33:58.000 Well, I'm like, well, we're in the opposite situation now.

01:34:01.000 Now, the more people, the better.

01:34:03.000 So it's not like you and I are both competing for some fucking roll-on cheers.

01:34:07.000 It's not what it is.

01:34:08.000 Now it's the more the better.

01:34:10.000 Like the more, if you know funny people and then they go, oh, Brendan says that guy's funny.

01:34:15.000 He must be funny.

01:34:16.000 He knows funny.

01:34:16.000 And then they watch that guy and then it's a real network.

01:34:19.000 So then it's a network of friends.

01:34:21.000 So it's a different kind of network.

01:34:23.000 There's no contracts.

01:34:24.000 But everybody knows if Theo Vaughn tells you somebody's funny, that guy's got to be funny because Theo Vaughn is funny as fuck.

01:34:31.000 So it's this like nice little thing where everybody's kind of helping everybody.

01:34:35.000 And then when you go there...

01:34:37.000 Now, it's like a feeling of family.

01:34:39.000 Like every time we go to the store, it's all hugs.

01:34:41.000 Everybody's hugging.

01:34:42.000 You know, it's all like, what's up?

01:34:43.000 What's up?

01:34:44.000 It's all friendly.

01:34:45.000 It's all the weirdness, man.

01:34:47.000 And it helps people.

01:34:48.000 It helps people get over the hump.

01:34:49.000 Because sometimes what keeps someone from becoming a professional...

01:34:53.000 Is like you don't, you know, you don't have supportive friends and you don't put the extra effort into it because it doesn't feel good to be there because you're not doing well because you bomb too often.

01:35:03.000 That's a big one.

01:35:04.000 You need someone to like pull you aside when you're bombing and go, hey man, you gotta stop opening with that bit.

01:35:08.000 You make people uncomfortable.

01:35:09.000 But also go, I've been there too.

01:35:11.000 Yes, we've all been there.

01:35:13.000 Dude, anybody who tells you they haven't bombed is either a thief, either they've been stealing all their jokes, or they're just not telling the truth.

01:35:18.000 They're not a real comic.

01:35:19.000 It's hard.

01:35:21.000 It's fucking hard.

01:35:22.000 And you get humbled every time you come up with something new.

01:35:26.000 And every time you have to do a new special, and every time you have to put away the old jokes and write new ones, you're humbled.

01:35:32.000 You're eating shit all the time.

01:35:34.000 There's no way you're not going to.

01:35:36.000 If you're coming up with a new bit, there's going to be a time where you're going to say it where you've never said it before.

01:35:40.000 That's just a fact.

01:35:42.000 And it's never going to be that good when you're in that state.

01:35:44.000 It can be, yeah.

01:35:45.000 It's Bambi legs.

01:35:46.000 It's not like...

01:35:47.000 It's all Bambi on ice.

01:35:48.000 It's so embarrassing.

01:35:49.000 Trying to fucking...

01:35:50.000 It's so embarrassing.

01:35:51.000 And you're forcing it.

01:35:52.000 It's clunky.

01:35:53.000 That's the game, though.

01:35:54.000 That's what we do.

01:35:55.000 And the more we do it together, the more we help each other, the more it makes people want to come see it, too.

01:36:01.000 So it's like the store's never been more packed.

01:36:03.000 Never.

01:36:03.000 Never been more packed.

01:36:04.000 It's sold out every night.

01:36:05.000 Every night.

01:36:06.000 And everybody's got a good vibe.

01:36:08.000 It's nice.

01:36:08.000 Everybody you see there.

01:36:09.000 Everybody's happy to see everybody.

01:36:10.000 Whether it's Delia or Rick Ingram.

01:36:13.000 There's no darkness.

01:36:14.000 Everybody's happy.

01:36:15.000 It's nice people.

01:36:16.000 I think it's because of you, man.

01:36:17.000 I think you've started that.

01:36:19.000 I'm happy to help.

01:36:20.000 I'm happy to help.

01:36:21.000 But I'm just trying to promote the thing that we all want.

01:36:25.000 We all want it.

01:36:26.000 It's not like you're trying to show people something they don't want.

01:36:29.000 Everybody wants family.

01:36:30.000 Everybody wants brotherhood and sisterhood.

01:36:33.000 Everybody wants a nice community.

01:36:35.000 Everybody wants to feel good.

01:36:36.000 But some people think...

01:36:38.000 Everybody has imposter syndrome too, man.

01:36:40.000 When you meet famous people...

01:36:42.000 I had a phone call the other day with Johnny Depp.

01:36:44.000 You did?

01:36:45.000 Me and Johnny Depp are talking on the phone.

01:36:47.000 And I'm like, what is going on in my fucking life?

01:36:49.000 I'm here having a phone call with Johnny Depp.

01:36:51.000 Do you want to come on the podcast?

01:36:52.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:36:54.000 I just want to talk to him.

01:36:55.000 It was just a cool conversation.

01:36:56.000 Really?

01:36:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:36:57.000 Good guy?

01:36:57.000 Oh, he's a very nice guy.

01:36:58.000 I'm a fan.

01:36:59.000 I'm a big fan.

01:37:00.000 Me too, I love Johnny Depp.

01:37:01.000 He's a sweetheart of a guy, too.

01:37:02.000 Phenomenal.

01:37:02.000 But it's like, talking to him on the phone, I'm like, what is this life?

01:37:08.000 I bet even Johnny Depp feels like he's full of shit.

01:37:10.000 Everybody feels full of shit.

01:37:11.000 We all feel like a fraud.

01:37:12.000 Everybody's a fraud.

01:37:13.000 Someone's gonna pull the curtain up.

01:37:14.000 Yeah.

01:37:15.000 Ah, fuck!

01:37:15.000 And when everybody said, like, you suck, you're a fraud.

01:37:17.000 Like, yeah, you're right.

01:37:18.000 Everyone's a fraud.

01:37:19.000 Yeah, cool, man.

01:37:19.000 Everyone!

01:37:20.000 I guarantee you Daniel Day-Lewis probably feels like a fraud sometimes.

01:37:23.000 It's imposter syndrome.

01:37:24.000 Everyone gets it.

01:37:25.000 But, so, talking to Johnny Depp, you're like, what the fuck is happening?

01:37:29.000 I'm like, what is happening?

01:37:30.000 And before that was Kanye West.

01:37:32.000 Yeah, that was weird too.

01:37:33.000 To you that was an insane tune?

01:37:35.000 That was weird too.

01:37:36.000 It was real weird.

01:37:36.000 It's weird.

01:37:37.000 I met Paul McCartney once at the improv.

01:37:39.000 I was like, hello.

01:37:40.000 What in the fuck am I doing staring at you?

01:37:43.000 How are you a real thing?

01:37:44.000 How are you really Paul McCartney?

01:37:46.000 Crazy.

01:37:47.000 I didn't even stick around to talk to him.

01:37:48.000 I just said hi and kept moving.

01:37:51.000 Hi!

01:37:52.000 He saw me just stand up too.

01:37:54.000 I was thinking about him while I was in there.

01:37:56.000 I hope he can handle it.

01:37:58.000 What if Paul McCartney gets really bummed out?

01:38:00.000 What if I did the Caitlyn Jenner thing and bummed out at me?

01:38:05.000 Have you ever talked to those guys and asked to come on the podcast and anyone said no?

01:38:08.000 Or you don't even push it?

01:38:10.000 Chappelle is an interesting one, because he and I have talked about it.

01:38:13.000 Yeah.

01:38:14.000 No, Mike.

01:38:14.000 No.

01:38:15.000 Sorry.

01:38:17.000 Sorry, yeah.

01:38:18.000 No, fucking Rick Chappelle, motherfucker.

01:38:21.000 His cousin.

01:38:23.000 Dave is, you know, Dave said, he's like, I'll do it sometimes, but I don't know, you know?

01:38:29.000 And I was like, dude, I hear you.

01:38:30.000 I don't do anybody else's.

01:38:32.000 I mean, I don't have any time.

01:38:33.000 No, why would you?

01:38:34.000 Yeah, I don't have any time.

01:38:35.000 And second of all, I get it, man.

01:38:36.000 You say enough with your comedy.

01:38:38.000 And it's like, Dave is a smart guy, man.

01:38:41.000 He figured it out.

01:38:42.000 He figured out where it was slipping away when they were fucking with him when he was doing the Chappelle show.

01:38:47.000 And he was like, you know what?

01:38:48.000 Let me just sit back for a bit.

01:38:50.000 Just sit back for a bit.

01:38:51.000 Do you know what he did?

01:38:54.000 You see what an artist, Dave Chappelle is?

01:38:57.000 He wasn't scheduling shows.

01:38:59.000 Instead, he would bring a speaker to the park.

01:39:01.000 Oh, I know.

01:39:02.000 In Seattle.

01:39:03.000 He'd set up a fucking speaker and do an impromptu stand-up show.

01:39:07.000 And everybody was like, what is going on?

01:39:09.000 And at the time, he could have filled up arenas, man.

01:39:12.000 Crazy.

01:39:13.000 I mean, still can, for sure.

01:39:15.000 You know, still can, still does.

01:39:17.000 The ones I did with him were phenomenal.

01:39:18.000 We had so much fun.

01:39:19.000 But he decided to take time off.

01:39:21.000 He decided.

01:39:23.000 That like, let me just sit back.

01:39:24.000 And you know this, especially at the level you're at, to step away is probably the hardest.

01:39:28.000 To say no is probably the hardest thing.

01:39:30.000 He's our biggest genius.

01:39:32.000 He's our biggest comedy genius.

01:39:33.000 And he might be one of the biggest comedy geniuses ever, but he's certainly our biggest comedy genius of today.

01:39:38.000 He understands comedy like nobody else does.

01:39:40.000 Did you hear what he said to Trevor Noah was on a show and they asked him about opening for Dave Chappelle because Chappelle brought him on a bunch of dates.

01:39:48.000 And Trevor Noah was like, he was saying, he goes, I mean, I'm fairly good at stand-up.

01:39:53.000 I'm not the best, but, you know, I've been to stand-up a while now.

01:39:55.000 And he goes, I'm in the green room with Dave Chappelle.

01:39:57.000 And he goes, and I'm thinking, why the fuck would he have me open for him?

01:40:00.000 Like, he has all these guys, like, great comics.

01:40:03.000 Why do you have me?

01:40:03.000 So he said that to him.

01:40:04.000 He goes, hey, Dave, I gotta know, man.

01:40:06.000 Why the fuck do you have me at your shows?

01:40:09.000 Wait, I'm open for you.

01:40:10.000 He goes, you know a million better comics.

01:40:12.000 And he goes, I can find any funny.

01:40:14.000 There's a ton of funny people.

01:40:15.000 There's a ton of funny comics.

01:40:16.000 He goes, but you're funny and interesting.

01:40:18.000 So to your point, he's like, we can go to dinner like you're an interesting person.

01:40:22.000 And people care about interesting people.

01:40:24.000 So there's guys I can bring out who are going to murder, but they're not interesting.

01:40:27.000 People don't care.

01:40:29.000 You can murder and you're interesting.

01:40:30.000 That's why you're here.

01:40:31.000 I'd like to talk to Dave, see if that was an accurate quote.

01:40:33.000 Dave must be like, what?

01:40:35.000 Yeah, no, he's like, I didn't say that.

01:40:36.000 I told him he was funny.

01:40:37.000 What the fuck?

01:40:37.000 I told him he was cool, man.

01:40:38.000 Jesus Christ.

01:40:39.000 I told him he's here because he rolls a good joint.

01:40:42.000 And he's just, Trevor Noah just cares.

01:40:44.000 He said, I'm here because I'm really smug.

01:40:47.000 I'm a giant dick.

01:40:48.000 Stop lying, son!

01:40:49.000 Stop lying, son!

01:40:51.000 He started his podcast, right?

01:40:53.000 Yes, he did.

01:40:53.000 Finally.

01:40:54.000 I tried to talk him into it for literally a year.

01:40:57.000 Really?

01:40:57.000 Yeah, I think I started talking to him about it last February or something like that.

01:41:01.000 February or March.

01:41:02.000 When did he do the podcast the first time?

01:41:04.000 You taught him to do a podcast?

01:41:05.000 From then on, I'm like, what are you doing, man?

01:41:08.000 You were born for this.

01:41:09.000 He's so funny.

01:41:10.000 He's born for this.

01:41:11.000 He can just ramble.

01:41:11.000 About anything, he could ramble.

01:41:13.000 February?

01:41:14.000 Okay.

01:41:15.000 So, almost, you know, like, whatever that is.

01:41:18.000 10 months.

01:41:18.000 So, 10, 11 months ago.

01:41:20.000 He got it going.

01:41:21.000 And finally he got it going.

01:41:22.000 So funny.

01:41:23.000 And he's doing it with Kate Quigley, which is perfect.

01:41:26.000 Oh, nice.

01:41:26.000 The dynamic?

01:41:27.000 Yeah, it's perfect.

01:41:28.000 And have someone to bounce off shit, you know?

01:41:31.000 Or you can Bill Bird or Dahlia and just speak into the mic.

01:41:34.000 That's a special thing.

01:41:35.000 Yes, he could do that and he has done that, but it's better to have Kate Quigley there.

01:41:39.000 First of all, Kate understands comedy.

01:41:43.000 She knows what he's doing.

01:41:44.000 She'll get out of the way if he goes on a rant.

01:41:47.000 It's perfect.

01:41:48.000 She'll bring people there herself, so she'll bring people to the podcast as well.

01:41:52.000 It'll help.

01:41:53.000 You know who else started a podcast and finally is Whitney Cummings.

01:41:56.000 I know!

01:41:57.000 She's killing it too.

01:41:57.000 Of course.

01:41:58.000 She should have been doing it a long time ago.

01:42:00.000 I agree.

01:42:00.000 She's another one.

01:42:01.000 She would do other people's podcasts.

01:42:02.000 I know.

01:42:03.000 She would prepare.

01:42:04.000 She's one of the rare people who would prepare for podcasts.

01:42:06.000 Notes and shit.

01:42:07.000 She would come in with notes and shit to talk about.

01:42:09.000 She's so smart.

01:42:10.000 She's one of the most ambitious people I've ever met in an interesting way.

01:42:13.000 Not ambitious like wants to be famous.

01:42:15.000 No.

01:42:16.000 But wants to complete projects.

01:42:18.000 She's always like, well, I'm in the middle of directing this documentary on violence.

01:42:21.000 She has so much going on.

01:42:22.000 I know.

01:42:23.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:42:24.000 Why are you directing documentaries?

01:42:28.000 Dude, our neighborhood is Whitney, Tom Segura.

01:42:30.000 Like, it's all of us right there, man.

01:42:34.000 It's a vortex, bro.

01:42:35.000 It's a vortex.

01:42:35.000 You see Tom Segura's dance video?

01:42:37.000 Yes, it's fantastic.

01:42:39.000 Bro.

01:42:40.000 The animal stabs Bert.

01:42:41.000 Holy shit.

01:42:42.000 And he said the director wanted him to stab him, take a gun, and keep shooting him.

01:42:47.000 Oh my God.

01:42:47.000 And Tom was like, all right, I'm down.

01:42:49.000 But I guess it was too long.

01:42:51.000 So he's like, we cut that out.

01:42:52.000 Just me stabbing you.

01:42:53.000 Yeah, the stabbing thing is the way to go.

01:42:55.000 Yeah.

01:42:56.000 But it's dancing.

01:42:57.000 I mean, dude can dance.

01:42:58.000 He can dance!

01:42:59.000 You know he's starting to do comedy shows in Spanish?

01:43:01.000 Oh my god.

01:43:02.000 How crazy is that?

01:43:03.000 I think he said he's gonna do a special.

01:43:04.000 In Spanish?

01:43:05.000 Yeah.

01:43:06.000 Oh my god.

01:43:06.000 I don't know if it's gonna be a full hour.

01:43:07.000 He just did a special in Austin.

01:43:09.000 Or maybe he's getting ready for Netflix.

01:43:10.000 No, he just filmed it.

01:43:12.000 But that one's not in Spanish, right?

01:43:13.000 No, no, no.

01:43:14.000 That's regular.

01:43:15.000 But he's...

01:43:15.000 Regular.

01:43:19.000 Yeah, that was the other thing I was thinking about, this cowboy versus Conner fight.

01:43:23.000 That's the most Irish guy versus the most American guy.

01:43:25.000 It's Bud Light versus proper whiskey.

01:43:27.000 Bud!

01:43:28.000 Actual Bud.

01:43:28.000 Not Budweiser.

01:43:29.000 How dare you.

01:43:30.000 Oh, is it Budweiser?

01:43:31.000 He's not trash.

01:43:32.000 Is it Bud Light?

01:43:34.000 I thought Bud Light was his shit.

01:43:35.000 No, it's Budweiser!

01:43:35.000 Is it Budweiser?

01:43:36.000 No, he's a Budweiser guy.

01:43:38.000 That thick bear, bro.

01:43:38.000 The real shit.

01:43:39.000 The real shit.

01:43:40.000 Fuck your light, bro, dude.

01:43:41.000 There's nothing wrong with Bud Light if you're, like, eating clams or something.

01:43:43.000 You want something cold.

01:43:45.000 Budweiser's real beer.

01:43:46.000 Dude, it's Budweiser vs.

01:43:47.000 proper whiskey.

01:43:48.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:43:49.000 And I like my Budweiser in a can.

01:43:50.000 I like to know I'm a piece of shit.

01:43:52.000 Fuck yeah, me too.

01:43:53.000 Don't put in a fancy glass.

01:43:56.000 Is Conor reaching for his whiskey while Cowboys reaching for his Budweiser?

01:44:01.000 I mean, I guess, I wish they would have done it in like Dublin or something, like a giant stadium in Dublin.

01:44:05.000 Where are they doing it?

01:44:06.000 Vegas?

01:44:06.000 Vegas.

01:44:07.000 Well, they probably had an agreement with Vegas anyway.

01:44:10.000 See, I think the thing about Vegas is like, there's the most people that can come, it's easy to get to, there's the most amount of hotels.

01:44:15.000 You're gonna make the most money.

01:44:18.000 Yeah, it's...

01:44:19.000 Look, it's going to be fucking great.

01:44:21.000 Whether you're watching it on TV or watching it live, it's going to be fucking great.

01:44:25.000 I can't wait.

01:44:26.000 And if Conor can catch him early, it can be very interesting.

01:44:31.000 It's literally a sprint versus a marathon, because Cowboys stick around.

01:44:36.000 Five rounds for Conor at welterweight, it scares me, man.

01:44:39.000 If Cowboy can use his distance, and he's very good at doing it, and he can avoid that straight left...

01:44:45.000 You know, because Connor's got a piston of a left hand, man.

01:44:48.000 I think Connor's better with his hands, but Cowboy's better with his feet.

01:44:51.000 And also, the one thing everyone's forgetting is Cowboy can fucking wrestle, man.

01:44:56.000 Any phenomenal submission.

01:44:58.000 So if he wants to pull that out at some point of the fight, he can definitely do it.

01:45:01.000 I don't think he's going to.

01:45:03.000 The Mike Perry fight opened a lot of eyes.

01:45:04.000 The Mike Perry fight opened a lot of eyes.

01:45:05.000 Because Mike Perry's a gorilla.

01:45:07.000 That guy is fucking strong as shit.

01:45:09.000 And when Cowboy armbarred him...

01:45:12.000 You know, Mike Perry sent him a picture of x-rays of a broken arm that wasn't really his arm.

01:45:16.000 Oh, really?

01:45:17.000 This is what he did to my arm.

01:45:19.000 Oh, hell no.

01:45:20.000 And Cowboy's like, what?

01:45:21.000 He's like, really?

01:45:22.000 He didn't even really break his arm.

01:45:24.000 Oh, wow.

01:45:24.000 That's hilarious.

01:45:25.000 And I said, what's that about him?

01:45:26.000 He was just a strange guy.

01:45:28.000 He sent him a fake broken arm in the x-ray and his arm wasn't broken.

01:45:33.000 Hey, didn't Mike Perry do like 21 and mean.

01:45:36.000 There's like 0.01% of black and he just started dropping the n-bombs.

01:45:43.000 Like, interviews just out of nowhere.

01:45:44.000 Everyone's like, what the fuck is happening?

01:45:47.000 Mike Perry's a wild dude.

01:45:48.000 He's hilarious is what he is.

01:45:49.000 What does it say?

01:45:50.000 Platinum tattooed on his eyebrow?

01:45:52.000 Is it platinum?

01:45:54.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:45:54.000 He's hilarious.

01:45:55.000 He's a wild motherfucker, man.

01:45:56.000 He's fun to watch.

01:45:57.000 He has a fight coming up.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, who's he fighting?

01:45:59.000 He's fighting someone good, right?

01:46:00.000 Jeff Neal?

01:46:01.000 Is he fighting Jeff Neal?

01:46:03.000 Yeah.

01:46:03.000 Ooh, that's a good fight.

01:46:05.000 Jeff Neal.

01:46:05.000 Dude, you know who we leave out when we're talking about welterweight and it's so fucked up?

01:46:10.000 Leon Edwards.

01:46:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:12.000 He's won eight in a row.

01:46:12.000 Well, how about Masvidal fucking sucker punches him and he cuts his face and they're in the middle of this whole thing after he knocks out Till.

01:46:21.000 I know.

01:46:21.000 And he's in the heat of this, but it gets no traction.

01:46:24.000 Everyone's like, yeah, whatever.

01:46:24.000 They actually got in the fight.

01:46:26.000 Straight fight, yeah.

01:46:27.000 And everyone's like, yeah, but Leon, nobody knows you.

01:46:29.000 I'm sorry.

01:46:30.000 I know.

01:46:30.000 But he's a monster.

01:46:32.000 Well, he beat Cowboy by decision, but Cowboy was sick going into that fight.

01:46:36.000 Not to say that Leon couldn't have won anyway.

01:46:38.000 But there's a guy who never pulls out of a fight.

01:46:41.000 When was the last time you heard Cowboy pull out of a fight?

01:46:43.000 Oh, never.

01:46:44.000 He would have to be on death's door.

01:46:45.000 Again, he's been a yes man for the UFC. He's gone through so much shit.

01:46:49.000 Cutting weight on three days notice and fighting this guy and losing.

01:46:52.000 But it's not necessarily even that he's a yes man.

01:46:54.000 He's just down to fight.

01:46:56.000 But sometimes it's not for the best of his career.

01:47:00.000 Like when he fought Masvidal in Denver's hometown after the Mike Brown fight, we were like, dude, you suffered a lot of damage.

01:47:06.000 Like, dude, fight in your hometown, whatever, four weeks later.

01:47:09.000 He's like, yeah, all right.

01:47:10.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:12.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

01:47:14.000 To get to the title, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

01:47:16.000 I'm positive that Dana's actually told him that too at certain points.

01:47:21.000 I'm not blaming Dana.

01:47:22.000 I think that he wanted fights where Dana was like, look, just slow down.

01:47:26.000 I'm sure.

01:47:28.000 He's just wild, man.

01:47:29.000 He's a wild dude, but it's paid off.

01:47:31.000 Usually it doesn't pay off.

01:47:32.000 It's paid off.

01:47:32.000 He got his golden goose.

01:47:34.000 Well, he's in an interesting stage where he's doing a lot of fights, so he's really comfortable fighting, right?

01:47:39.000 He's fighting very regularly.

01:47:41.000 And he also...

01:47:43.000 At that age where his brain and his knowledge of fighting, his fight IQ, is at its highest while his body's still hanging in there.

01:47:53.000 Hanging in there, though.

01:47:54.000 But there's a fine line where it's, let's say he got knocked out by Gaethje, right?

01:47:59.000 Yes.

01:47:59.000 So let's say Conor knocks out, then it's like, all right, what are we doing?

01:48:03.000 Exactly, because he's like 36 now.

01:48:06.000 How old is Connor?

01:48:06.000 36 to 37?

01:48:08.000 So this is the area, right?

01:48:10.000 From 36 to 40 is where you see some guys, Bernard Hopkins it, and they just fucking eat nothing but grilled chicken with perfectly cooked vegetables.

01:48:19.000 God, that's the exception, isn't it?

01:48:21.000 The most except.

01:48:22.000 He's the most odd exception because Bernard Hopkins was elite as a boxer with no drugs, no nothing.

01:48:29.000 But also, Bernard Hopkins' IQ was higher than anybody.

01:48:32.000 Off the charts.

01:48:34.000 So he could fight defensive.

01:48:36.000 MMA really can't get away with that.

01:48:38.000 He also could control the pace, where he could dictate how fast you guys fought.

01:48:42.000 So nobody could just put a pace on him.

01:48:44.000 MMA's not like that?

01:48:45.000 No.

01:48:46.000 It's a different animal.

01:48:47.000 It's a completely different animal.

01:48:48.000 And the only guys that really made it successfully deep into their 40s were not on the match.

01:48:54.000 No.

01:48:54.000 It'd be tough to do these days.

01:48:56.000 Yeah, it's tough.

01:48:57.000 It's tough.

01:48:57.000 And, you know, the early days of fighting, man, you've got to realize, like...

01:49:02.000 The early days, everything has to have an asterisk.

01:49:05.000 Everything.

01:49:06.000 Every fight.

01:49:06.000 Kind of, as the Wild West was like, everyone did it, you know?

01:49:09.000 So it was kind of a level playing field.

01:49:11.000 Speaking of which, you see Vitor getting ready for one FC? Hell yeah, he's back, baby!

01:49:16.000 He's back, baby!

01:49:17.000 He's back, baby!

01:49:19.000 Come get some.

01:49:20.000 He's throwing fast combinations, looking juicy.

01:49:24.000 Juicy, juicy.

01:49:25.000 I love that Vitor.

01:49:26.000 What weight is he fighting at?

01:49:28.000 Is he fighting at 205?

01:49:29.000 205, right?

01:49:31.000 Does it say?

01:49:31.000 Oh boy, he's thick.

01:49:32.000 Dude, he's big.

01:49:33.000 In a good way.

01:49:35.000 How many more years do you think he can have under those looser guidelines?

01:49:42.000 I think he does it for three more years.

01:49:44.000 They won't even let you sign in the country to watch.

01:49:46.000 No.

01:49:46.000 Get out.

01:49:48.000 But we don't even do it.

01:49:49.000 Out.

01:49:50.000 But we don't have anything to do with it.

01:49:52.000 Out!

01:49:53.000 No Singapore!

01:49:54.000 Out!

01:49:55.000 Out!

01:49:56.000 That's right.

01:49:57.000 He's won championship, huh?

01:49:58.000 Yeah.

01:50:00.000 Dude.

01:50:02.000 I mean, of course he is.

01:50:03.000 Come on, son.

01:50:04.000 Just has that dime piece wife.

01:50:06.000 They're helping him.

01:50:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:07.000 Why wouldn't you?

01:50:08.000 Chachri's giving him his own piss.

01:50:10.000 He's like, take my piss.

01:50:11.000 This stuff's perfect.

01:50:14.000 I'm eating whole foods.

01:50:16.000 Going to yoga class.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, they're killing it.

01:50:19.000 Sage is going to fight again, too.

01:50:21.000 He's going to drop down to 55. So here he is.

01:50:23.000 Get ready.

01:50:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:25.000 Dude.

01:50:26.000 I mean, he's thick!

01:50:29.000 And he doesn't have to cut weight.

01:50:30.000 So that's where it gets interesting.

01:50:32.000 Because, you know, you gotta realize that Vitor has been fighting in the UFC at 185 pounds for, you know, all the big fights, right?

01:50:41.000 The fight with Anderson that he lost, and then the Anderson fight...

01:50:45.000 You know, he was a little smooth in that fight.

01:50:48.000 He didn't look like the Vitor that fought Rockhold or the Vitor that fought Michael Bisping or Henderson.

01:50:55.000 That was the thick Vitor.

01:50:57.000 So we're dealing with a different animal.

01:50:59.000 What poor soul is going to fight Vitor and the Jews?

01:51:01.000 Hey, man.

01:51:02.000 I mean, is it enough at this age?

01:51:04.000 You know, is it enough?

01:51:05.000 You know, I mean, they've got some straight-up murderers over in 1FC. They do, man.

01:51:10.000 They do.

01:51:10.000 That fucking guy who knocked out Eddie Alvarez?

01:51:13.000 What's his name?

01:51:14.000 Saryukin?

01:51:15.000 Saryukin?

01:51:16.000 How about the guy who beat Brandon Vero, man?

01:51:18.000 Like, they have some killers we just don't know about them.

01:51:19.000 No, that's not Saryukin.

01:51:20.000 What is his name?

01:51:21.000 Oh, Nastyukin.

01:51:22.000 That's his name.

01:51:23.000 I think it's Timothy Nastyukin.

01:51:25.000 This fucking Russian savage.

01:51:28.000 Mighty Mouse been doing work over there.

01:51:30.000 He has.

01:51:31.000 But also, UFC, you know, not to throw Ben Askin on the bus, but UFC went, one championship, that's your best, come on over.

01:51:38.000 Yeah, but I think it paid off for the UFC because you wouldn't have Masvidal's superstardom without what happened with Ben Askren.

01:51:46.000 I think Ben, you know, it worked for both, one championship and UFC. It worked out.

01:51:51.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:51:52.000 And it worked for Ben, too, because he made a lot of money over in one UFC. But I think that if Ben had left Bellator and gone straight to the UFC, things would have been very interesting.

01:52:00.000 Very interesting.

01:52:01.000 You and I went hard in the paint for Ben.

01:52:03.000 We got starched.

01:52:04.000 He got starched.

01:52:05.000 It was a tough go.

01:52:06.000 Starched and then strangled.

01:52:07.000 Hey, it's a tough world out there.

01:52:09.000 And we found out also that he needs a fucking hip replacement.

01:52:12.000 He legitimately does.

01:52:13.000 I connected him with Dr. Reardon.

01:52:15.000 Oh, good.

01:52:15.000 I love Ben.

01:52:16.000 I love Ben.

01:52:16.000 But also, people dogging on stuff like this.

01:52:19.000 Like, dude, what about the guy who was retired, had everything going for him, where he's living, has the wrestling camp, was like, Yeah, alright, I'll fight the best of the best in UFC. Yeah, right away.

01:52:29.000 Just for him to do that, you have to tip your hat to the guy.

01:52:31.000 It's fucking insane.

01:52:32.000 And super nice guy.

01:52:33.000 Very smart guy, too.

01:52:34.000 Really well-educated.

01:52:35.000 Again, all the shit talk, that's all in the act.

01:52:38.000 Ben's a great dude.

01:52:39.000 Smart, smart guy.

01:52:41.000 Why wasn't the best idea to do that to Miles Vidal, though?

01:52:43.000 What'd you say?

01:52:44.000 Talking shit to Masvidal.

01:52:46.000 But that's his game.

01:52:48.000 Because you're not going to tune in to just a pure wrestler.

01:52:50.000 But there's some guys...

01:52:52.000 Masvidal's like, what?

01:52:54.000 There's some guys you do not want to make mad.

01:52:56.000 Dude, how about Masvidal...

01:52:58.000 I'm sorry, how about Ben Askin vs.

01:53:00.000 Damian Maia?

01:53:01.000 The striking?

01:53:02.000 I was like, what the fuck is happening right now?

01:53:04.000 Go to the ground, you two, right now!

01:53:06.000 Yeah, what is this?

01:53:07.000 I'd rather watch Logan Paul and KSI. Why is this happening?

01:53:11.000 Well, you gotta remember, Damien Maia beat Masvidal.

01:53:14.000 One of the last fights that Masvidal lost was Damien Maia.

01:53:18.000 No, I thought he beat Damien Maia.

01:53:20.000 No, he beat Damien Maia.

01:53:20.000 I don't think so.

01:53:21.000 Damien had his back, remember?

01:53:22.000 And they restarted him?

01:53:23.000 I think Damien Maia won that decision.

01:53:26.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:53:27.000 I think he lost to Wonderboy Thompson, and I think he lost to Damien Maia.

01:53:30.000 No, he beat Damien Maia.

01:53:31.000 Did he?

01:53:32.000 You're right?

01:53:32.000 I think.

01:53:34.000 Yes.

01:53:35.000 No, no, no.

01:53:35.000 Masvidal.

01:53:36.000 Masvidal.

01:53:37.000 No, no, no.

01:53:38.000 Yeah, Masvidal, Damien Maia.

01:53:40.000 I thought...

01:53:42.000 Losing my mind.

01:53:43.000 I'm trying to remember.

01:53:44.000 I thought Masvidal won.

01:53:45.000 I feel like Damian Maia won a decision.

01:53:47.000 Damian Maia won?

01:53:49.000 Yeah.

01:53:50.000 Shout out to your brain.

01:53:51.000 And I remember he lost a really close one to Wonderboy.

01:53:56.000 Real close.

01:53:59.000 But what's interesting about the Masvidal Damian Maia fight is that Maia had his back and couldn't submit him.

01:54:04.000 True.

01:54:05.000 Which is insane.

01:54:06.000 Well, you know, where Maia got fucked more than any other time in his entire career is when he had Kamaru Usman's back.

01:54:12.000 That was ridiculous.

01:54:13.000 Oh, so ugly.

01:54:14.000 To this day, I'll be driving in my fucking car.

01:54:17.000 Jorge Masvidal said Damian Maia lost burns like a fucking STD. Hilarious.

01:54:23.000 Hilarious.

01:54:24.000 Sometimes I'll be driving, no bullshit, I'll be driving down the road and I think of Damian Maia having Kamaru Usman's back and the referee stepping in and I go like this, FUCK! Just driving out of nowhere.

01:54:34.000 If someone saw me driving, they would think that I have some personal thing I'm dealing with or your money or something.

01:54:40.000 I'm just driving down the road thinking about that ref pulling Damian Maia off Usman's back and I just go, fuck!

01:54:46.000 That was insane.

01:54:47.000 It was so dumb.

01:54:48.000 Insane.

01:54:48.000 It's like he got to the spot.

01:54:50.000 That's the spot.

01:54:51.000 Next thing you know, who knows what happened?

01:54:53.000 Not only is that the spot, but it's his spot.

01:54:55.000 It's his spot.

01:54:55.000 He's the best in the world on your back.

01:54:57.000 The best.

01:54:57.000 And it's early.

01:54:58.000 We're in the first round.

01:55:00.000 He's not even slippery yet.

01:55:01.000 You called the Damian Maia-Askeren fight to a tee.

01:55:05.000 I knew that was gonna happen.

01:55:05.000 And we talked before, you're like, no, no, no.

01:55:08.000 Damian Maia's gonna strangle.

01:55:09.000 Damian Maia's world class on the ground.

01:55:13.000 And Ben eventually wants to go to the ground.

01:55:15.000 What does he want to do?

01:55:15.000 Have a kickboxing fight?

01:55:16.000 There's gonna be moments where he wants to go to the ground.

01:55:18.000 Okay, now if you look at when...

01:55:20.000 And this is obviously different because it's just MMA. I mean, it's just grappling, not MMA. But he rolled with Marcelo Garcia.

01:55:26.000 And if you watch Marcelo Garcia strangle Ben Askren over and over and over again, you realize...

01:55:31.000 There's levels to everything.

01:55:33.000 If they were just in a wrestling match, yeah, Ben Askren could probably beat him.

01:55:36.000 But this is not a wrestling match.

01:55:37.000 This is MMA with strangles.

01:55:40.000 And Damian Maia's going to get his back.

01:55:41.000 That's what I was thinking.

01:55:42.000 I was like, he's going to get his back.

01:55:43.000 But also, it is pretty similar to straight jiu-jitsu because Ben or Damian aren't really ground-pounters.

01:55:49.000 They're not ground-pounding.

01:55:50.000 They're literally vying for a position to grapple.

01:55:53.000 So Ben's going to entertain the grappling with Damian Maia.

01:55:56.000 He's going to slip up.

01:55:57.000 Holy shit.

01:55:57.000 He's going to slip up.

01:55:58.000 And that's what I felt like.

01:55:59.000 He wasn't going to be able to, as Hicks and Gracie would say, couldn't keep the rhythm.

01:56:02.000 Dude, the transitions were foaming at them.

01:56:05.000 I could not get enough of it.

01:56:07.000 When they were standing, I'm like, you two fucking drop down right now.

01:56:09.000 Yeah, stop it.

01:56:10.000 God damn it.

01:56:11.000 The only thing that made sense to me is maybe Damian Maia thought that Ben Askren's chin would be soft because he was so brutally KO'd just four months ago.

01:56:20.000 Maybe.

01:56:21.000 Because that has happened to guys.

01:56:23.000 You remember when Travis Luter...

01:56:25.000 Who did he fucking knock out cold with one punch?

01:56:29.000 That same dude who Vitor Belfort cut a giant hole above his head.

01:56:34.000 He was a super jacked, really powerful black dude.

01:56:38.000 God damn it.

01:56:39.000 I can't remember his name.

01:56:40.000 Pull up Travis Luter.

01:56:42.000 Not Eastman.

01:56:42.000 Marvin Eastman.

01:56:43.000 Exactly.

01:56:44.000 Marvin Eastman fought Travis Luter and Travis Luter caught Marvin Eastman with a punch at the very end of the punch.

01:56:50.000 It was one of the weirder knockouts that you'll ever see.

01:56:53.000 Go back right here.

01:56:54.000 Watch this.

01:56:55.000 Oh, very end of the punch.

01:56:57.000 Very end of the punch.

01:56:58.000 It's strange.

01:56:59.000 But Marvin Eastman had been KO'd.

01:57:01.000 The word was he got KO'd twice in camp with Tito.

01:57:05.000 Oh, wow.

01:57:06.000 He got hit with a knee during takedown defense, got KO'd, and he got hit with something else.

01:57:11.000 That was the word.

01:57:12.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:57:13.000 If it's wrong, forgive me.

01:57:14.000 But it's not that Travis Luter couldn't punch.

01:57:16.000 He certainly could, but that one didn't make sense.

01:57:18.000 No, not like that.

01:57:19.000 He touched him, and he just went out.

01:57:20.000 So sometimes guys who've been KO'd recently, you know how it is, they just can't It just doesn't work anymore.

01:57:27.000 Maybe, I think Damian Maia maybe thought that Van Askren couldn't take a shot.

01:57:32.000 That's scary when that happens in training camp, because then you're like, fuck!

01:57:35.000 And you know the fight's like two or three weeks away, and you know you're not going to be healed, so you go into the fight.

01:57:40.000 Knowing you're vulnerable.

01:57:41.000 That happened before I fought Rothwell.

01:57:44.000 He ended up knocking me out.

01:57:45.000 But before that, a week before my last sparring session, Shane Carwin knocked me literally cold.

01:57:52.000 It's like, oh, we're a week away.

01:57:55.000 And then your coach's like, ah, be alright, man.

01:57:56.000 You shake it off.

01:57:57.000 But in hindsight, I'm like, why would you guys let me fight, dude?

01:58:01.000 Why would you let me fight that?

01:58:02.000 Well, also, why is Shane Carwin trying to knock you out?

01:58:05.000 Dude.

01:58:07.000 Yeah, it was a savage.

01:58:08.000 That dude hit so hard.

01:58:09.000 I'm like, what the fuck were we thinking?

01:58:10.000 He hit so hard.

01:58:12.000 That dude hit so hard.

01:58:13.000 He's a guy who didn't get his day in the sun either.

01:58:15.000 He had that loss to Lesnar where he came out and fucked Lesnar up in that first round, but then he just gassed out.

01:58:20.000 He just lost all his juice.

01:58:24.000 He put up so much energy trying to stop Lesnar.

01:58:27.000 So much muscle.

01:58:28.000 They could have stopped that fight too.

01:58:31.000 They easily could have stopped that fight.

01:58:32.000 Shout out to Herb Dean.

01:58:33.000 And they were both champions.

01:58:35.000 He was the interim champ.

01:58:36.000 Lesnar was the champ champ.

01:58:37.000 He beat Frank Mir.

01:58:38.000 Yeah.

01:58:38.000 He crushed Frank Mir with a ruthless series of uppercuts.

01:58:41.000 Remember he held him with one arm and blasted him with the other?

01:58:44.000 I was in his corner.

01:58:44.000 Fuck, dude.

01:58:45.000 Fuck, dude.

01:58:46.000 That was terrifying.

01:58:47.000 That was what Shane Carr when he was at his peak.

01:58:50.000 He was starching people.

01:58:51.000 And remember before that, he starched Gabriel Gonzaga.

01:58:54.000 One punch.

01:58:55.000 After he had a broken nose.

01:58:57.000 Gonzaga broke his nose and took him down.

01:58:59.000 Gonzaga fucked his nose up.

01:59:00.000 Yep.

01:59:00.000 Shane popped up and went, cool story.

01:59:01.000 And Shane hit him with a six-inch right hand.

01:59:03.000 Cool story.

01:59:04.000 It went like this.

01:59:05.000 Bink!

01:59:06.000 Shut the lights out.

01:59:07.000 And then how about Gonzaga and Bigfoot Silva?

01:59:09.000 Bare Knuckle.

01:59:10.000 That's how they're doing, sir.

01:59:12.000 They found a Bare Knuckle and Gonzaga piece Big Silva.

01:59:16.000 Yeah.

01:59:16.000 It's hard to watch.

01:59:17.000 Not good.

01:59:19.000 Bigfoot Silva was a guy that when they made him get off the test, remember that?

01:59:23.000 That was the rudest thing ever.

01:59:25.000 The rudest thing?

01:59:26.000 Also, don't fight if you have to have that stuff.

01:59:29.000 He needed the money.

01:59:30.000 He needed the money.

01:59:31.000 No, I'm saying like, remember him on TRT? He was such a nightmare.

01:59:37.000 He crushed Fedor.

01:59:38.000 Huge dude.

01:59:39.000 He crushed Fedor.

01:59:40.000 Remember that?

01:59:40.000 Remember when Fedor went for an ankle lock on him?

01:59:42.000 His giant foot.

01:59:45.000 And Fedor's like hugging on his big toe and he's going like this.

01:59:48.000 I'm like, oh, you fucked up, Fedor.

01:59:50.000 You fucked up.

01:59:50.000 You let a guy get on everything.

01:59:52.000 You're literally fighting a giant.

01:59:54.000 Also the nicest guy in the world.

01:59:56.000 Super nice guy.

01:59:57.000 How about I strain with him?

01:59:58.000 He had a real reason to take tests.

02:00:00.000 When you take him off of it, he had an operation on his pituitary gland.

02:00:04.000 He had a tumor.

02:00:05.000 He had a tumor that was literally producing too much growth hormone.

02:00:10.000 That's why you become a giant like that.

02:00:13.000 So then he has this tumor removed, and now his body's not producing anything.

02:00:16.000 I know.

02:00:17.000 So he has to take stuff.

02:00:18.000 But they say he can't take stuff.

02:00:20.000 So he's just sick all the time.

02:00:21.000 I remember his fight against Mark Hunt when he was on TRT, and they just went back and forth.

02:00:25.000 Oh, that's right.

02:00:26.000 It was like the greatest heavyweight fight of all time.

02:00:28.000 And then afterwards, he couldn't take a shot.

02:00:30.000 He tested hot.

02:00:31.000 Yeah, he tested hot.

02:00:32.000 Dude, how about I train with Bigfoot to get ready for Big Nog, and I didn't know they were best friends, and I'm training with him.

02:00:39.000 I'm like, this guy's great.

02:00:40.000 Next day, I'm like, where the fuck is Bigfoot?

02:00:42.000 I see a picture of him on Instagram with Big Nog.

02:00:45.000 Oh, boy.

02:00:46.000 So he went to test you out?

02:00:47.000 I just think he came in and I know he was training there and I don't think it was any bad intention.

02:00:54.000 I think he was like, alright, yeah, if you want to train, go ahead.

02:00:56.000 Dude, when he got on top of Fedor, when he mounted Fedor, I was like, holy fuck.

02:01:01.000 That picture of just a giant on top of this kind of fat Russian and just fucking...

02:01:07.000 Dude, he was a building.

02:01:09.000 He was like a building planted on his chest.

02:01:11.000 Like, you're not shaking that off.

02:01:13.000 He's 300 pounds.

02:01:14.000 Remember when DC fought him?

02:01:16.000 And I go, dude, you fucked him up.

02:01:17.000 He goes, how can you miss?

02:01:19.000 How can you miss?

02:01:21.000 He goes, that's the easiest fight in the world.

02:01:22.000 How do you miss?

02:01:23.000 I threw a one-two.

02:01:24.000 They both landed.

02:01:27.000 His head was this wide.

02:01:28.000 It's all in when you catch a guy, too.

02:01:30.000 Like, where you catch him in his career and all in, like, what kind of testing are we talking about?

02:01:35.000 That's the reality of, like, MMA pre-USADA is all when you catch him and what kind of testing.

02:01:43.000 Yeah.

02:01:44.000 Well, speaking of testing, how about your boy Overeem fight Saturday?

02:01:47.000 And he's fighting a fucking...

02:01:48.000 Rosenstreich.

02:01:49.000 Is it Stroik or Stroke?

02:01:51.000 Stroik.

02:01:52.000 Stroik.

02:01:53.000 Yeah.

02:01:53.000 He's a banshee.

02:01:55.000 Yeah, he's a beast.

02:01:56.000 He KO'd...

02:01:57.000 Andrzej Olowski.

02:02:00.000 Andrzej Olowski with a left hook.

02:02:02.000 Fadeaway left hook.

02:02:03.000 In his last fight, one punch.

02:02:05.000 Serious power.

02:02:06.000 Really nice guy, too.

02:02:07.000 Is he nice?

02:02:08.000 Real nice.

02:02:09.000 I can't believe he's in D.C. What a cool name.

02:02:12.000 Jarzino.

02:02:13.000 Jarzino.

02:02:14.000 Rosenstreich.

02:02:14.000 God, look at him.

02:02:15.000 I would have to go to John Anik to see if I'm saying it right, but I'm pretty sure it's Rosenstreich.

02:02:22.000 Rosenstreich.

02:02:22.000 6'4", 240. Very interesting guy.

02:02:24.000 Perfect size.

02:02:26.000 He's one of those guys where you look at the...

02:02:28.000 Oh, they're doing a leg reach thing now.

02:02:30.000 He's one of those guys, when you get a guy who's, you know, I think he's 9-0?

02:02:34.000 Is that what it says?

02:02:35.000 9-0, yeah.

02:02:35.000 I mean, you don't know.

02:02:37.000 We don't know, but this is a good test.

02:02:39.000 KO ratio, 88%.

02:02:41.000 Fuck, man.

02:02:42.000 And he's a legit 260-plus.

02:02:44.000 You know, he's a legit giant dude.

02:02:46.000 You're fucking crazy if you don't think Rosenstruck and Francis are going to face off.

02:02:53.000 What I want to see, honestly, I want to see Francis fight in boxing.

02:02:57.000 I really do.

02:02:58.000 How dare you.

02:02:59.000 I really do.

02:03:00.000 I really do.

02:03:01.000 Against a guy like Wilder?

02:03:03.000 Well, not right away.

02:03:05.000 I don't think that would be smart.

02:03:07.000 No.

02:03:07.000 I think he'd have a few boxing fights.

02:03:09.000 But I think Francis could put people on the moon.

02:03:12.000 That's a fact.

02:03:14.000 You get some dude who's not going to take him down.

02:03:16.000 They're just going to stand in front of him.

02:03:17.000 He's 280 plus pounds right now.

02:03:22.000 Shredded African muscle.

02:03:24.000 Dude, he's such a specimen.

02:03:26.000 He's such a freak.

02:03:27.000 And, I mean, he's got a story that is literally right out of a movie.

02:03:30.000 He was a child working in the fucking sand mines.

02:03:34.000 Yeah.

02:03:35.000 Digging sand.

02:03:36.000 That is core, that is shoulders, that is legs, that is back.

02:03:41.000 That kind of strength training as a young person doing that every day, that farmer strength shit, that's for real, man.

02:03:48.000 For real.

02:03:49.000 For real.

02:03:49.000 You go against a farmer, you know what's up, dude.

02:03:51.000 That's exactly what he's got.

02:03:53.000 Sand shoveling strength might top farmer strength because farmers aren't always doing that.

02:03:58.000 Sand shovelers are doing it all day long.

02:04:00.000 Blood diamonds.

02:04:01.000 Dude.

02:04:03.000 I can take it, too, man.

02:04:05.000 I love Francis, man.

02:04:06.000 Here's what it's about Francis, too, is obviously he had his loss, right?

02:04:09.000 Lost to Stipe, and then the Derrick Lewis, whatever, that fight was whatever.

02:04:14.000 I want to erase it from my memory.

02:04:15.000 So he loses to Stipe.

02:04:17.000 He gets catapulted into the limelight.

02:04:19.000 He's pretty cocky, thinks he's going to starch Stipe.

02:04:22.000 But then he learns from his losses, and you look where he's at now, you're like, oh shit, this guy's gonna be champion.

02:04:27.000 Similar thing happened with Darren Till, man.

02:04:30.000 I went to see, I saw the Junior Dos Santos fight in a pool hall.

02:04:33.000 I was with some guys, and we were playing pole, and we stopped, and I said, this one won't last.

02:04:39.000 This is not going to last.

02:04:40.000 Junior is a great fighter, but his style is the wrong style to stand in front of that fucking guy.

02:04:46.000 He also has some Brazilian miles on him.

02:04:48.000 He's a shell of what he used to be, let's be real.

02:04:52.000 Francis is just on this tear right now, but sometimes there's losses that happen for guys where you're like, oh man, they needed those huge bumps in their career where it's going to pay off in the end.

02:05:04.000 I think it's happened with Francis, it's happened with Darren Till now as well.

02:05:08.000 I don't know if Francis can immediately beat top-level boxers, but I know that if they put him against some guy who's like a journeyman who's going to stand in front of him.

02:05:19.000 Oh, he'll starch him.

02:05:19.000 100%.

02:05:19.000 He'll starch guys, and he'll starch a bunch of those guys, and people will get super excited about him.

02:05:24.000 I agree if they want to do that, but you're talking about a different animal.

02:05:27.000 If you were to go in there like a Wilder or a Fury, which is almost ridiculous to say, but that's where we're at because Conor Diggins Floyd, or even Masvidal talking about, oh, I want to fight Canelo, and they ask Canelo, and Canelo goes, what the fuck?

02:05:38.000 What are you talking about?

02:05:40.000 But I think with Francis, if you put him in there with a guy like Wilder or Fury, they've seen big punchers before, man.

02:05:47.000 He's not going to touch him.

02:05:48.000 There's just a different level.

02:05:49.000 But he's also older, so I don't know.

02:05:52.000 Fury is a perfect example of a guy that's extremely hard to hit.

02:05:55.000 He's so light on his feet.

02:05:56.000 He pops that jab.

02:05:58.000 He's so well-schooled.

02:05:58.000 One of the things that I saw when I watched the fight again was how well he was slipping punches.

02:06:04.000 Masterclass in boxing.

02:06:05.000 He's so good.

02:06:06.000 He's by far the most skilled heavyweight we've seen in I don't know how long.

02:06:12.000 And 6'9".

02:06:13.000 Insane.

02:06:14.000 He's so tall.

02:06:15.000 He just pops that jab and moves light on his feet.

02:06:17.000 You worked with Till?

02:06:18.000 Yes, yes, I saw that.

02:06:19.000 Till was like, fuck, dude.

02:06:22.000 And he was like, I want a real workout.

02:06:24.000 Give me what you guys would do.

02:06:25.000 And Till said he was holding mitts and like, holy fuck, man.

02:06:27.000 Of course, man.

02:06:28.000 And now imagine him with four-ounce gloves, lighting your chin up.

02:06:31.000 He's just too fast.

02:06:33.000 But it's whether or not he would ever be able to stop like Stipe's takedown or DC's takedown or any real heavyweight wrestler's takedown.

02:06:39.000 The answer's no.

02:06:40.000 No.

02:06:40.000 They toy with him.

02:06:42.000 He'd get smashed.

02:06:42.000 I don't know why everyone wants to cross-pollinate.

02:06:45.000 If they do cross-pollinate, I think the guy who can have the most success is Francis.

02:06:50.000 Because I really think that Francis, before he gets to the elite levels, he's going to starch a lot of people.

02:06:55.000 I don't know if he can punch as hard as Wilder.

02:06:57.000 I don't know.

02:06:58.000 Because Wilder's punch is crazy.

02:06:59.000 Insane.

02:07:00.000 But so is Francis's.

02:07:01.000 If Francis hits anyone with that left hook, I don't give a fuck if he's wearing one of those cartoon gloves that you get that weigh five pounds.

02:07:08.000 You know those ones you get at the carnival?

02:07:09.000 I know exactly what we're talking about.

02:07:10.000 If he hits you with one of those, you're fucked.

02:07:12.000 But here's the thing.

02:07:13.000 You know who ate his punches?

02:07:14.000 Stipe.

02:07:15.000 He did, but Stipe moved away and used his wrestling.

02:07:18.000 Stipe got fucking rocked.

02:07:20.000 When you go back and watch that fight, you're like, how can Stipe do this?

02:07:24.000 And he ragdolled him.

02:07:25.000 Amazing.

02:07:26.000 But how much different would that fight be if it was just a boxing match?

02:07:31.000 That's trouble.

02:07:32.000 If there was no takedowns at all and he could settle in.

02:07:34.000 He would have knocked him out.

02:07:36.000 100%.

02:07:36.000 Maybe.

02:07:37.000 Who knows?

02:07:37.000 Maybe Stipe would have fought a different fight.

02:07:39.000 What do you think Stipe D.C.? The rematch.

02:07:42.000 Is that definitely going to happen?

02:07:43.000 They confirmed that.

02:07:45.000 I think Stipe is...

02:07:46.000 Am I fucking crazy?

02:07:47.000 Stipe's got an injury that he's dealing with.

02:07:49.000 Am I fucking crazy?

02:07:52.000 Is that not confirmed?

02:07:52.000 I don't think it's confirmed.

02:07:54.000 I don't think it's confirmed.

02:07:56.000 I think they both agreed to it, but it hasn't been confirmed.

02:07:58.000 It hasn't been signed.

02:07:59.000 Dude, wait till John goes, hold my fucking bear, and comes up the heavyweight.

02:08:04.000 I've seen what that man does to heavyweights in training.

02:08:06.000 Well, you know, the Johnny Walker thing was really interesting, right?

02:08:09.000 It was really interesting to see if Johnny Walker could make a big splash, but then people forgot how goddamn good Corey Anderson is.

02:08:17.000 They forgot.

02:08:17.000 The MMA guys don't care about your hype or your fucking dancing into the cage.

02:08:22.000 They don't give a fuck.

02:08:23.000 You knock a lot of guys out, they don't give a fuck.

02:08:25.000 How good are you right now, and do you have a solution to what Corey Anderson brings to the table?

02:08:30.000 He's a beast, man.

02:08:31.000 He's a beast.

02:08:32.000 He's got an incredible work ethic.

02:08:33.000 He doesn't get fucking tired, and he gets better with every fight.

02:08:37.000 And people forget.

02:08:38.000 You forget he gets better.

02:08:38.000 But you gotta watch the Aliyah Latifi fight.

02:08:41.000 Shut that guy down.

02:08:43.000 Stops Johnny Walker.

02:08:44.000 He's beating top-level guys, man.

02:08:46.000 How about Latifi's Heavyweight now?

02:08:47.000 I know.

02:08:47.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:08:50.000 Stipe Miocic wants Tyson Fury's super fight more than Daniel Cormier trilogy.

02:08:54.000 Of course he does.

02:08:55.000 It's like a fucking billion dollars.

02:08:58.000 He's also mad a little bit because DC made him wait for his rematch, so he said, I'll make him wait too then.

02:09:02.000 Oh, well, he's probably talking shit.

02:09:05.000 Both of you fight to your nuts hang down to your ankles.

02:09:07.000 Just fucking make it happen, dude.

02:09:10.000 I don't know if that fight happens again.

02:09:12.000 You don't think so?

02:09:13.000 I don't know if that fight happens again.

02:09:14.000 I don't know.

02:09:14.000 We'll talk.

02:09:15.000 I'll tell you what I know.

02:09:16.000 Yeah, please do.

02:09:17.000 It's just I'm out of time before John goes, alright, I'm ready to go, and just fucks everybody up.

02:09:21.000 Well, DC, John, heavyweight, dear God, make it happen.

02:09:24.000 Oh my God.

02:09:25.000 What do you think about John versus Francis, though?

02:09:28.000 Every fight starts standing up, man.

02:09:31.000 Yeah.

02:09:32.000 Yeah, it does.

02:09:33.000 And Francis is big.

02:09:34.000 That's terrifying.

02:09:35.000 Can John get in there fast enough to get him down?

02:09:37.000 Dude, he's cutting weight to make 265. Understand that.

02:09:41.000 Oh, I'm very aware.

02:09:42.000 He's cutting weight.

02:09:43.000 And he's putting people on another dimension.

02:09:45.000 My only thing is John's soul leaves your body.

02:09:48.000 Oh yeah, 100%.

02:09:49.000 You're just gonna power punch it?

02:09:51.000 All right.

02:09:51.000 100%.

02:09:52.000 However, he ain't seen nothing like that guy.

02:09:56.000 No.

02:09:56.000 Nothing.

02:09:57.000 When that guy kicks his leg, that guy comes storming in like a bat out of hell, throwing punches that each one of them has concussion written all over it.

02:10:05.000 Each one of them.

02:10:06.000 God, he's scary.

02:10:07.000 If anything lands on anybody and you're a 205-er, I mean, the best 205 of all time, no doubt.

02:10:12.000 But if we saw John get left hooked like the way we saw Gregor Gillespie get head kicked and just flatlined.

02:10:18.000 Thumbs in sin.

02:10:19.000 Shout out to Gregor Gillespie.

02:10:21.000 I know, and I was thinking that was a really tough fight for Kevin Lee to take.

02:10:25.000 We both were.

02:10:25.000 I was like, why would Kevin do this?

02:10:26.000 Kevin looked phenomenal.

02:10:27.000 Well, listen, man, the training with Feras a hobby and making that move.

02:10:31.000 Getting a real camp, real sparring partners, a real game plan.

02:10:34.000 And a real maestro, like a master.

02:10:37.000 You have to have it today.

02:10:38.000 You have to have it today if you're going to compete against the best.

02:10:40.000 And Feras is just one of the best ever.

02:10:43.000 I told him that's the guy who trained the guy who you fight like the most.

02:10:48.000 Go there.

02:10:49.000 Be that guy.

02:10:49.000 Yeah, be that guy.

02:10:50.000 Do that.

02:10:51.000 Yeah.

02:10:51.000 Move your ass to cold-ass Montreal.

02:10:53.000 Yeah.

02:10:53.000 No black people.

02:10:54.000 Do that.

02:10:55.000 There's a few.

02:10:56.000 They speak French, though.

02:10:57.000 They speak French.

02:10:58.000 They rap in French.

02:10:59.000 Have you ever heard French rapping?

02:11:01.000 Oh, yeah.

02:11:01.000 It's adorable.

02:11:03.000 GSP plays it in his car, and I was like, well, this is terrible.

02:11:06.000 Could you please switch the station?

02:11:09.000 GSP's still training.

02:11:10.000 Still training.

02:11:11.000 Still in tip-top magoo.

02:11:12.000 He's looking for a big fight.

02:11:13.000 Yeah, he said, look, I'm here, boys.

02:11:15.000 What do you want to do?

02:11:16.000 He wants the Khabib one.

02:11:17.000 He wants that at 65. Bro, him and Khabib at 165 would be gang busters.

02:11:23.000 Insane.

02:11:24.000 And he can make 165. He thinks he can make 55. Yeah, but let's not do it.

02:11:29.000 Let's not do it on TJ Dillashaw.

02:11:30.000 Jesus Christ.

02:11:33.000 I don't know what TJ was doing before he was doing this.

02:11:37.000 You know they don't test for EPO every fight.

02:11:44.000 They don't.

02:11:44.000 No, they don't.

02:11:47.000 Cody Garbrandt said that he'd been on it before.

02:11:51.000 Cody and him were friends.

02:11:52.000 I don't know if that's true.

02:11:53.000 But I do know that when you look at the way he looked when he was training for that 125-pound fight, he looked like he was a dead man walking.

02:12:01.000 I couldn't imagine that he had any energy to train.

02:12:04.000 I can't imagine it.

02:12:05.000 I almost understand why he would take something.

02:12:08.000 I almost understand.

02:12:08.000 That's exactly what I said to him.

02:12:10.000 Except if Cody's telling the truth.

02:12:12.000 If Cody said he's done it before.

02:12:14.000 Well, you know Team Alpha has their issues with TJ and they've assumed he was on it before.

02:12:19.000 I don't know who to believe.

02:12:20.000 Is that the case though?

02:12:21.000 Or was he friends with Cody and Cody knew?

02:12:24.000 I don't know.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:12:24.000 I don't know.

02:12:25.000 Either way, again, props to USADA. Because they're catching people doing shit like that.

02:12:30.000 Look, he should have never gone to 125. It's a terrible idea.

02:12:33.000 I mean, that guy that is training him, that guy who's that master strength and conditioning coach to put together this diet to drop down 125 pounds, that's all good on paper.

02:12:41.000 Okay?

02:12:42.000 That's all good on paper.

02:12:43.000 And I know he's trained a bunch of really top-level MMA guys.

02:12:47.000 100%.

02:12:47.000 That's a ridiculous idea.

02:12:49.000 That's too much weight.

02:12:50.000 It's too much weight.

02:12:51.000 There's that.

02:12:52.000 Also, Jose Aldo's team, who's like, no, he can make 135. I'm like...

02:12:57.000 He looks like he's lost a lot of weight.

02:13:01.000 He's dying at 45, dude.

02:13:02.000 But he looks like he lost a lot of weight.

02:13:03.000 Have you seen the recent pictures of him?

02:13:05.000 Nope.

02:13:05.000 Don't need to.

02:13:06.000 Because here's the thing.

02:13:07.000 They're like, oh, you got kind of pieced up at 45, and you're older?

02:13:12.000 Dude, let's cut a shit ton of weight and see how that goes.

02:13:15.000 But here's the thing.

02:13:16.000 Why not 55?

02:13:17.000 I hear what you're saying, but I don't think he's actually cutting weight.

02:13:20.000 I think what he's done is lose weight.

02:13:22.000 Lose weight, like running, going slowly, because he's way out from a fight, right?

02:13:27.000 He's already fighting...

02:13:29.000 December 15?

02:13:30.000 Marlon Marais.

02:13:31.000 Is that what it is?

02:13:31.000 Yeah.

02:13:33.000 That's fairly soon.

02:13:34.000 Dude.

02:13:35.000 That's a good fight.

02:13:36.000 Brazilian-Brazilian crime, nothing better.

02:13:38.000 Dude, Marlon, before Cejudo got a hold of him, he looked like a world-beater.

02:13:43.000 Like he was gonna beat the world.

02:13:45.000 Cejudo broke him.

02:13:46.000 Broke him.

02:13:47.000 Put that fucking will on him, son.

02:13:49.000 Put that will on him.

02:13:50.000 So here's the question.

02:13:52.000 Is Marlon Marais in a similar situation where he just can't maintain a pace after cutting that much weight because Marais cuts a fuckload of weight.

02:14:01.000 There it is.

02:14:02.000 Jermaine D'Amandamy.

02:14:03.000 Peter Yan, Uriah.

02:14:05.000 Amanda Nunes in Durandamy.

02:14:07.000 That's a fight that people are not talking about enough.

02:14:09.000 Durandamy is good, dude.

02:14:11.000 She's good.

02:14:12.000 She's super technical.

02:14:13.000 Remember when she refused to fight Cyborg and was like, I'll just give up the belt.

02:14:16.000 Fuck this noise.

02:14:17.000 No, you can kiss this ass.

02:14:19.000 Kiss this Dutch ass.

02:14:22.000 Not interested.

02:14:23.000 Dude, Volkanovski versus Max Holloway is a good fucking fight.

02:14:27.000 You ever see Volkanovski when he's 240 pounds?

02:14:28.000 Yeah, it's fantastic.

02:14:30.000 Rugby player?

02:14:30.000 Yeah, he's 5'6", 240. He's from Izzy's, same camp.

02:14:34.000 Yes, he's an animal.

02:14:35.000 They got some boys over there.

02:14:37.000 Max Holloway, consensus greatest featherweight of all time.

02:14:41.000 Yeah, that's fair.

02:14:41.000 Of all time.

02:14:42.000 Of all time.

02:14:43.000 He's the best.

02:14:44.000 Beat the shit out of Aldo twice.

02:14:45.000 Twice.

02:14:46.000 Beat the shit out of Ortega when Ortega was the fucking man.

02:14:47.000 That's not the main event?

02:14:48.000 No, keep going.

02:14:50.000 One more.

02:14:50.000 Jon Jones!

02:14:52.000 Kamaru Usman, Colby Covington.

02:14:55.000 No, Jon Jones is the...

02:14:57.000 What is he?

02:14:58.000 January?

02:15:00.000 Is that the other Vegas one?

02:15:02.000 Oh, that's right.

02:15:03.000 That's February.

02:15:05.000 That's February.

02:15:05.000 February, Houston.

02:15:06.000 Oh, Kamaru Usman and Colby Covington.

02:15:09.000 Give me that again.

02:15:10.000 Let me see that again.

02:15:11.000 Let's go back to that.

02:15:13.000 Usman and Colby Covington.

02:15:14.000 Good luck calling that.

02:15:16.000 What do you think happens there?

02:15:17.000 I don't know.

02:15:18.000 Both their styles are very similar.

02:15:20.000 The only difference that you can really see, neither guy's ever been taken down in a fight, ever, but I would give the finishing power to Kamaru Usman.

02:15:30.000 I would as well.

02:15:30.000 He has some power.

02:15:31.000 He does have some power.

02:15:32.000 How about Colby with Robbie Lawler?

02:15:34.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:35.000 Just outstruck him.

02:15:36.000 Yeah.

02:15:37.000 Yeah.

02:15:37.000 Insane.

02:15:38.000 Well, not only that, puts a pace on that you just can't handle.

02:15:42.000 You can't handle it.

02:15:43.000 But if anybody can handle it, it's that guy.

02:15:45.000 Because think about what Usman did at Woodley.

02:15:47.000 Yeah.

02:15:48.000 Takedown defense.

02:15:49.000 100% Kamaru Usman.

02:15:52.000 100%.

02:15:52.000 How the fuck is Colby 78?

02:15:54.000 Who took him down?

02:15:54.000 No one took him down.

02:15:55.000 Maybe his first fight.

02:15:56.000 Didn't he get submitted?

02:15:57.000 He had a broken rib.

02:15:59.000 Took a fight early in his career.

02:16:01.000 Injured, I think, to get into the UFC. Really?

02:16:04.000 And lost?

02:16:04.000 He got submitted.

02:16:05.000 I want to say it was his first fight.

02:16:07.000 Go to Colby Covington's first fight in the Octagon.

02:16:10.000 Oh, that's what they're going to do.

02:16:11.000 Woodley, Leon Edwards.

02:16:13.000 Ooh.

02:16:14.000 Just hit me.

02:16:15.000 That's a tough fight.

02:16:16.000 Tough fight for both guys.

02:16:18.000 Good fight.

02:16:19.000 Very good fight.

02:16:22.000 Submit by guillotine.

02:16:23.000 Who, in first fight in the UFC? No.

02:16:25.000 I made him eight and one.

02:16:27.000 Who are you talking about?

02:16:28.000 In the UFC? Eight and one in the UFC? How many fights in was it?

02:16:34.000 One, two, three, four.

02:16:35.000 It was his fifth fight.

02:16:36.000 Really?

02:16:36.000 Who did it?

02:16:38.000 Worley Alves.

02:16:39.000 Worley Alves, that's right.

02:16:40.000 That was the fight that he got injured.

02:16:41.000 Worley Alves was a beast.

02:16:42.000 He's kind of fallen off, but he was a beast.

02:16:45.000 But I'm assuming Colby shot in?

02:16:47.000 Well, Colby went into that fight with a fucked up rib.

02:16:50.000 I know that for a fact.

02:16:51.000 But did he shoot in and get guillotined?

02:16:53.000 That makes sense.

02:16:54.000 I don't remember.

02:16:54.000 How the fuck did he get taken down?

02:16:55.000 He was hurt.

02:16:56.000 Maybe he fell down?

02:16:56.000 He was hurt.

02:16:57.000 I know for sure.

02:16:58.000 And then, who did he fight after that?

02:17:00.000 Because let me tell you the fight that made him put on this act.

02:17:03.000 Pull up his record.

02:17:05.000 Put it up on there.

02:17:06.000 It was quick into the fight.

02:17:07.000 It's his first round.

02:17:09.000 Oh, it was?

02:17:09.000 Yeah.

02:17:10.000 Well, he was fucked up.

02:17:10.000 I know for sure he was fucked up going into that fight.

02:17:12.000 That was a fight he didn't want to take.

02:17:13.000 Because him and Chael are close, and Chael's like, you need to come up with a shtick, dude.

02:17:17.000 Do you think so?

02:17:18.000 100%.

02:17:18.000 Okay, let me see.

02:17:19.000 Make that a little bigger for my shitty eyes.

02:17:22.000 I'll scroll up.

02:17:24.000 Okay, there it is.

02:17:25.000 There it is.

02:17:26.000 I think it was when he was fighting Damien Maia that he started talking shit?

02:17:34.000 Where's that?

02:17:34.000 Sao Paulo.

02:17:35.000 Yup, that's exactly what it was.

02:17:36.000 Yeah, that's exactly where.

02:17:37.000 So he's fighting Damian Maia.

02:17:39.000 He called them filthy animals?

02:17:39.000 Yeah, he called them filthy animals.

02:17:41.000 Hilarious.

02:17:41.000 So apparently what was going on before then was he was not making enough noise.

02:17:46.000 No one gave a fuck about him.

02:17:48.000 And, you know, they're in the middle of contract negotiations, and I think they were threatening to cut him.

02:17:53.000 So he says all kinds of crazy shit about Damian Maia, and people pay attention.

02:17:58.000 They go, okay, okay, how about this?

02:18:00.000 We'll give you another Brazilian.

02:18:01.000 So they give him Rafael dos Anjos.

02:18:02.000 He beats the fuck out of Rafael dos Anjos.

02:18:04.000 And then they're like, holy shit, wait a minute here.

02:18:07.000 Wait a minute.

02:18:07.000 So in doing that, he wins the interim title.

02:18:10.000 And then there was a bunch of shenanigans.

02:18:12.000 They wanted him to fight in Madison Square Garden.

02:18:14.000 He said, look, I can't fight back-to-back that quick.

02:18:17.000 These are hard-ass camps.

02:18:18.000 So they strip them.

02:18:19.000 A lot of shit going on.

02:18:20.000 A lot of shit.

02:18:21.000 So then they bring him back against Robbie Lawler.

02:18:23.000 Big comeback fight.

02:18:25.000 Robbie Lawler is a murderer, right?

02:18:26.000 Big fight on ESPN. Yeah, big fight on ESPN. And he just runs him over, man.

02:18:31.000 Runs him over.

02:18:32.000 Like, Robbie never got air.

02:18:34.000 He never got air.

02:18:35.000 Kobe just stayed on.

02:18:36.000 Stayed on him.

02:18:37.000 Look at his record, right?

02:18:38.000 The last six, all five, last five, all decisions.

02:18:42.000 So it's like, if you're like, all this guy, he doesn't finish, but what he's doing to guys like Damian Maia and Dos Anjos and Robbie Lawler is so fun to watch.

02:18:50.000 He's breaking dudes.

02:18:51.000 This is crazy.

02:18:52.000 October of 2017. So it's basically two years old, this act.

02:18:59.000 And I can't wait.

02:19:00.000 Three fights old.

02:19:00.000 I can't wait for him to drop it.

02:19:02.000 I can't wait for him to drop it once he becomes a champ and tell everybody what he did.

02:19:05.000 You know why?

02:19:06.000 He didn't keep it going because he wants to go to WWE. Does he?

02:19:10.000 Yeah, that's his thing.

02:19:12.000 Smart.

02:19:12.000 Why not, man?

02:19:13.000 He's like, I want to go to WWE. If he becomes a champ and then goes to WWE and they put him on all the steroids.

02:19:20.000 Why not?

02:19:21.000 And then get him up to about 240. Keep the hat, keep the gimmick going, WWE. 100%.

02:19:25.000 Make bank, fake it.

02:19:26.000 Yeah, tell him.

02:19:27.000 I'm going to show you pussies how to really fight.

02:19:29.000 It's fantastic.

02:19:29.000 How about him versus Lesnar?

02:19:30.000 He's a heel?

02:19:31.000 Dude, you'll see that.

02:19:32.000 You'll see that.

02:19:33.000 Lesnar fought a little dude the other day.

02:19:36.000 Well, that would be fucking crazy.

02:19:39.000 That's what he wants to do.

02:19:40.000 Hey, why not, man?

02:19:41.000 You can make money.

02:19:42.000 You know?

02:19:43.000 At a certain point in time, you gotta go, you know, he accomplished a lot.

02:19:46.000 He's accomplished a lot in the game.

02:19:47.000 100%.

02:19:48.000 If he decides, if he beats Usman...

02:19:50.000 Oh, he's like, how am I gonna parlay this?

02:19:51.000 How am I gonna keep this going?

02:19:52.000 Right.

02:19:52.000 Because everybody knows fighting, you know, it's a finite window.

02:19:55.000 Like, what are you gonna do next?

02:19:56.000 Right.

02:19:57.000 Nobody knows what his body's like right now as far as injuries.

02:20:00.000 How many guys do you know that are in camp that have one fucked up knee or a weird shoulder or the neck keeps fucking with them?

02:20:07.000 Especially for his skill set.

02:20:09.000 That motor and that grind.

02:20:11.000 He's a grinder, so you gotta have it all, man.

02:20:13.000 I would like to watch his strength and conditioning workout because it must be fucking insane.

02:20:16.000 It must be insane because even Jorge Masvidal, off record when I was talking to him, I go, what do you think about what Colby goes?

02:20:22.000 We've trained together.

02:20:22.000 He goes, never seen a motor like that ever in my life.

02:20:25.000 He's a motherfucker.

02:20:26.000 He can go, man.

02:20:27.000 He can go.

02:20:28.000 He put it on Robbie Law like I've never seen anybody put it on him.

02:20:30.000 Crazy.

02:20:31.000 The pace.

02:20:32.000 The pace was just insane.

02:20:34.000 He just never gave him any air.

02:20:36.000 Just kept on him.

02:20:37.000 Bang, bang, bang.

02:20:37.000 And I go, what do you use?

02:20:39.000 I go, you going 50%, 60%?

02:20:40.000 He goes, yeah.

02:20:41.000 About 50-60%.

02:20:42.000 Yeah, just volume.

02:20:43.000 Just never throwing full blasts, just staying on you.

02:20:46.000 Very Nate Nick Diaz-ish.

02:20:48.000 People forget when those guys started that a long time ago.

02:20:50.000 Nick started it.

02:20:51.000 If you go back to watch his fight with Frank Shamrock, he just never gave Frank Shamrock any breaks.

02:20:56.000 Just stays on him.

02:20:56.000 It's not like exploding.

02:20:57.000 It's just staying volume.

02:20:59.000 Until he gets you hurt.

02:21:00.000 Then he starts ripping to the body.

02:21:02.000 Digging to the body.

02:21:03.000 And he starts letting you know, I'm not even a little tired, bitch.

02:21:05.000 And you're exhausted.

02:21:06.000 He starts putting it on you.

02:21:08.000 It's on.

02:21:09.000 To the Nate Diaz thing, I think Conor goes, I want to fight three times in 2020. I think he goes, if I've got a crystal ball that screws you McDuck of the UFC, I think he goes cowboy, Masvidal, and ends it with Nate Diaz.

02:21:26.000 Wow.

02:21:26.000 Money, money, money.

02:21:27.000 Money, money, money.

02:21:28.000 Why not, right?

02:21:29.000 Because I think Tony and Khabib are going to tie up 155 for a while.

02:21:33.000 I think those boys are going to be back and forth.

02:21:36.000 I think it's going to be a great trilogy for the division.

02:21:39.000 Dude, I'm so excited about that fight.

02:21:40.000 I cannot wait.

02:21:41.000 That's my number one fight of the year.

02:21:43.000 Number one fight.

02:21:43.000 Don't give a fuck about anything else.

02:21:45.000 I want to see that fight.

02:21:46.000 I give a fuck about a lot of else.

02:21:47.000 I give a fuck about everything else.

02:21:48.000 I need that fight.

02:21:49.000 But it's in April.

02:21:50.000 It's in Brooklyn.

02:21:51.000 It might not even happen.

02:21:51.000 Oh, no.

02:21:55.000 Just wrap each other.

02:21:56.000 I'm saying that because there's no way I could predict that this fight would get canceled.

02:22:01.000 So I'm saying that so that people can make fun of me that the fight actually happens.

02:22:05.000 I know.

02:22:05.000 See?

02:22:06.000 You know what would be great?

02:22:07.000 If the UFC just doesn't tell us, and then the week before they go...

02:22:11.000 Ferguson Khabib this Saturday, like, oh fuck yeah!

02:22:14.000 I'm using reverse psychology, son.

02:22:16.000 Tight move.

02:22:17.000 Sometimes we jinx fights, dude.

02:22:18.000 I'm serious about Francis Ngannou, though.

02:22:20.000 I think he could be a real heavyweight contender in boxing.

02:22:23.000 I agree.

02:22:24.000 That's the one thing I'm not fucking around about.

02:22:25.000 I don't want anybody to get it twisted.

02:22:27.000 I really think that guy hit so fucking hard.

02:22:30.000 He's so good at fighting now, and he's so good at fighting high-level.

02:22:34.000 He's been fighting in the UFC against high-level guys for a long time.

02:22:37.000 I know it's different, but I don't think there's that much of an adjustment when you think about his primary skill set and the division he's talking about.

02:22:43.000 You don't think he can starch some of those top 15 guys?

02:22:47.000 He could fuck some of those dudes up.

02:22:50.000 I don't know, man.

02:22:52.000 Boom!

02:22:53.000 Against the ropes.

02:22:54.000 You're out of your goddamn mind if you think you'd hang with Wilder or Fury.

02:22:57.000 I'm not saying right away.

02:22:58.000 I'm not saying right away.

02:22:59.000 But you gotta have some experience under your belt.

02:23:02.000 You gotta see some fireworks.

02:23:03.000 How many pro boxing fights does he even have?

02:23:05.000 Not many.

02:23:06.000 Think about how many Wilder has.

02:23:08.000 Does he have any?

02:23:10.000 We don't even know.

02:23:11.000 I don't think so.

02:23:11.000 Connor had zero.

02:23:13.000 And you fought the best ever.

02:23:14.000 How'd that go?

02:23:15.000 Not great, did it?

02:23:16.000 Although he did land some punches.

02:23:18.000 He made a beautiful left uppercut.

02:23:19.000 Told you.

02:23:20.000 Beautiful left uppercut.

02:23:21.000 Now if Francis lands that on Wilder Fury, it's game over.

02:23:24.000 It's interesting.

02:23:25.000 Maybe not.

02:23:26.000 Oh, with the power?

02:23:27.000 Maybe they can take it.

02:23:27.000 Maybe he can hurt him.

02:23:30.000 Maybe they can roll with it a little bit better.

02:23:32.000 Wilder takes it, dude.

02:23:33.000 That's the thing about Wilder.

02:23:34.000 He takes it.

02:23:36.000 He's got a tremendous chin.

02:23:37.000 So does Joshua.

02:23:38.000 Joshua eats it too, man.

02:23:39.000 Joshua will get hit.

02:23:40.000 He's been wobbled before the Dillian White fight.

02:23:42.000 He's been wobbled, man.

02:23:44.000 He got clocked by Klitschko.

02:23:46.000 So that's why I think against Wilder, man.

02:23:49.000 Because Wilder lands.

02:23:51.000 It's a game, set, match.

02:23:52.000 It's over.

02:23:53.000 What did you think about Canelo fighting Sergey Kovalev?

02:23:57.000 How crazy was that?

02:23:59.000 When he flatlined Sergey Kovalev at 175 pounds.

02:24:02.000 How good is Canelo?

02:24:04.000 He's amazing.

02:24:04.000 To me, he's pound for pound number one.

02:24:06.000 You look at his resume, everyone goes, ooh, Bud, who I love, Bud Crawford, shout out to Bud, Bud and Earl Spence, everyone goes, that's pound for pound number one, or Lomachenko.

02:24:15.000 Dude, look at who Canelo's has beat, man, in different divisions.

02:24:19.000 You're talking about fucking marquee guys, and he's stopping them, man.

02:24:23.000 The Triple G fights, obviously there's some controversy there, but...

02:24:27.000 The Triple G fights are real controversial.

02:24:28.000 The first one was very controversial.

02:24:29.000 The second one was...

02:24:30.000 The second one, not so much.

02:24:31.000 What's up?

02:24:32.000 They delayed his fight for the end of the UFC fight the other day.

02:24:34.000 Yes, they did, and he's mad at that.

02:24:36.000 He said no more, because apparently people were tired, man.

02:24:38.000 Especially, like, East Coast folks.

02:24:40.000 Did you watch it?

02:24:41.000 Yeah, I watched it.

02:24:42.000 It was insane!

02:24:43.000 Yeah, they delayed it forever.

02:24:44.000 Dude, four hours.

02:24:45.000 They show him...

02:24:47.000 In the back, sitting there like, what the fuck?

02:24:49.000 Waiting for the end of the UFC fight.

02:24:50.000 And DAZN was just like...

02:24:52.000 How about DAZN played the UFC in the arena?

02:24:56.000 Look at this.

02:24:57.000 Laugh my off.

02:24:57.000 Who wrote that?

02:24:58.000 Who wrote that tweet?

02:25:00.000 Impersonator Ryan.

02:25:01.000 What does it say?

02:25:02.000 Let me shout him out.

02:25:03.000 It says...

02:25:03.000 The Chew defense.

02:25:05.000 Imperator Ryan, the Chew defense.

02:25:06.000 That's the Chew defense.

02:25:07.000 On Twitter it says, LMAO, Canelo, and Kovalev are napping because they've got to wait on the UFC. It's ridiculous.

02:25:13.000 Like, show a little pride, DAZN. Dana loved it.

02:25:17.000 He loved it.

02:25:18.000 He was so happy.

02:25:19.000 As a UFC guy, I was also like, yeah, bitch.

02:25:23.000 This is who's king.

02:25:25.000 Can you imagine Dana bowing down and going, listen, Floyd's fighting.

02:25:29.000 We're going to wait for the main event.

02:25:31.000 No!

02:25:32.000 What?

02:25:33.000 Impossible!

02:25:33.000 The UFC doesn't give a fuck what you got going on.

02:25:37.000 Nate Diaz vs.

02:25:38.000 Masvidal was a special fight, too.

02:25:40.000 And the thing about making it for the bad motherfucker belt, almost like everybody was like, yes!

02:25:45.000 Why not?

02:25:46.000 Everyone loved it.

02:25:46.000 Why not?

02:25:47.000 You know?

02:25:48.000 And now, isn't Ioana Junjacek gonna fight Zhang Weiling?

02:25:53.000 Isn't she fighting her for the belt?

02:25:55.000 Oh, did they not have that?

02:25:56.000 Because they didn't give her that fight.

02:25:57.000 Ioana says she wants to fight for the female BMF belt.

02:26:00.000 Oh, damn.

02:26:02.000 She should fight Jessica Andrade in a rematch.

02:26:05.000 52-48.

02:26:06.000 Is it official?

02:26:08.000 Damn!

02:26:09.000 That's a fucking card.

02:26:10.000 Who else is on that card?

02:26:11.000 It's that March 7th card.

02:26:12.000 So it's not been announced yet.

02:26:13.000 So that's the one they think might be Adesanya and Yoel Romero.

02:26:18.000 So Dana said he didn't want that fight though.

02:26:20.000 Determined locations.

02:26:21.000 Dana said he didn't?

02:26:22.000 Yeah, Dana said he didn't want that fight because Yoel lost his last couple fights.

02:26:25.000 I thought he said he did want it.

02:26:26.000 No, Dana said he, personally.

02:26:27.000 Dana didn't think that was a good fight for Yoel.

02:26:30.000 But think about it.

02:26:30.000 What else is there?

02:26:31.000 Well, it's a great fight for Yoel.

02:26:32.000 I think it's a great fight for Adesanya.

02:26:34.000 I think it's a great fight for the division.

02:26:36.000 But who else are you going to do?

02:26:37.000 You look at the division, there's no one else.

02:26:39.000 Well, one of the things that Masvidal, who's friends with Yoel, said, I respect the fuck out of Adesanya because he asked for that beast.

02:26:45.000 He said he asked for him.

02:26:46.000 And that was my point with Andrew Schultz.

02:26:48.000 I'm like, no, you don't understand.

02:26:49.000 To build the legend of Izzy, him asking for Yoel, everybody in the game respects that.

02:26:55.000 You want to fight that fucking monster?

02:26:58.000 Even Darren Till.

02:26:59.000 Darren Till said, anybody but Yoel.

02:27:01.000 He was joking around after the fight.

02:27:02.000 He was like, I don't want to fight that fucking guy.

02:27:04.000 I think they're going to do Darren Till Whitaker, man.

02:27:06.000 Mmm.

02:27:07.000 That's a great fucking fight.

02:27:08.000 Well, they talked about doing that on the undercard of Adesanya Yoel Romero.

02:27:14.000 Yes.

02:27:14.000 Wasn't that?

02:27:15.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:27:16.000 In March.

02:27:18.000 It was the undercard of another fight.

02:27:21.000 Fuck.

02:27:21.000 What did he say?

02:27:23.000 He reached out to some...

02:27:24.000 Oh, Conor and Cowboy.

02:27:25.000 That's who it was.

02:27:26.000 He wanted to be on the undercard of Conor and Cowboy.

02:27:28.000 Too soon.

02:27:28.000 Not happening.

02:27:29.000 I don't know, man.

02:27:30.000 I don't think Whitaker would be ready to go by then after getting knocked out.

02:27:33.000 What's the date on that fight?

02:27:34.000 That's January.

02:27:35.000 January what?

02:27:35.000 We're in December, dude.

02:27:36.000 Right, but it's six weeks.

02:27:38.000 Darren Till breaks out his red panties, invites Robert Whitaker to UFC 246 co-main event.

02:27:43.000 Yeah, so that's six weeks.

02:27:45.000 The only thing is Robert Whitaker got starched just a couple of months ago.

02:27:48.000 So you get at least a 120-day suspension.

02:27:51.000 Right.

02:27:51.000 Well, I don't know if he actually can make that medically.

02:27:55.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

02:27:56.000 It's not going to happen.

02:27:57.000 It's too soon.

02:27:58.000 Also, I think a fight like that where a guy like Adesanya just sort of starches you like that, that requires a reset.

02:28:05.000 Take your time, dude.

02:28:06.000 I love Whitaker.

02:28:07.000 Take your time, man.

02:28:08.000 But maybe not.

02:28:09.000 I mean, maybe he knows better than us.

02:28:10.000 I don't know.

02:28:11.000 Nope.

02:28:12.000 You think so?

02:28:13.000 I don't think so.

02:28:14.000 I'm outside looking in.

02:28:15.000 I'd say no.

02:28:15.000 I'm trying to be nice.

02:28:16.000 No, dude.

02:28:16.000 Take your time.

02:28:17.000 I don't think he does.

02:28:18.000 Take your time.

02:28:19.000 But I would like to see that fight, too.

02:28:21.000 So maybe they can make that happen on...

02:28:24.000 That March card would work.

02:28:26.000 Maybe sometime in the future.

02:28:28.000 There's a great April card as well, right?

02:28:31.000 April is the UFC in Brooklyn with Tony and Khabib.

02:28:35.000 Maybe it could be on the undercard of that fight.

02:28:37.000 That's a great fight.

02:28:39.000 It's a good time to be a fight fan, man.

02:28:41.000 It's a good time, man.

02:28:42.000 It's a good time.

02:28:42.000 There's a lot of good shit happening.

02:28:44.000 Hell yeah.

02:28:44.000 Yeah.

02:28:45.000 I get home to my son, dude.

02:28:46.000 Yeah, it's 6 o'clock already.

02:28:48.000 I know.

02:28:50.000 TFATK.com.

02:28:51.000 Where you at next?

02:28:52.000 I'm in KC Friday and Saturday.

02:28:54.000 Oh, shit.

02:28:55.000 Kansas City.

02:28:55.000 I know, dude.

02:28:56.000 You doing the improv?

02:28:56.000 Yeah.

02:28:57.000 I haven't been.

02:28:57.000 I've only did the Stanford and Sons.

02:28:58.000 It's a newer one, I think.

02:29:00.000 I think it's over the last couple years.

02:29:03.000 Next week, first time, I'm Borgata, Atlantic City.

02:29:05.000 That's a fun gig.

02:29:06.000 Is it fun?

02:29:07.000 I'm excited for it.

02:29:08.000 A lot of animals.

02:29:08.000 I'm also chilling on stage and throwing money at the audience.

02:29:11.000 Really?

02:29:11.000 Throwing hundreds.

02:29:12.000 Probably threw $10,000 at the audience.

02:29:14.000 I love this guy.

02:29:15.000 I brought him on stage.

02:29:16.000 I'm like, throw your money.

02:29:16.000 Smell terrible.

02:29:17.000 But he threw a lot of money at people.

02:29:18.000 Smell terrible.

02:29:20.000 Borgata, KC, get him.

02:29:21.000 Sorry, buddy.

02:29:22.000 Sorry, bro.

02:29:23.000 I hope everybody's good.

02:29:24.000 Much love to you all.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 28, 2011

JRE MMA Show #84 with Brendan Schaub

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