The John-Henry Westen Show - A promising treatment for COVID you've likely never heard of

00:00:00.060 Hello, and welcome to this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:00:03.820 At LifeSite, we just ran a spectacular conference on vaccines, which dealt with all the controversies

00:00:09.140 around COVID, the vaccinations, masking, lockdowns, and much more.

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00:00:23.100 My guest today follows perfectly on the heels of the vaccine conference.

00:00:27.100 Dr. Carmen Wheatley is a medical researcher specializing in cobalamin and director of

00:00:32.820 the cancer charity Orthomolecular Oncology.

00:00:36.080 She's speaking to us today about a promising treatment for COVID, which you've likely never

00:00:41.220 heard of.

00:00:42.000 You're going to want to stay tuned.

00:00:57.100 Let's begin, as we always do, at the sign of the cross.

00:01:04.400 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

00:01:08.040 Amen.

00:01:09.760 Dr. Carmen Wheatley, thank you so much for joining us on the program.

00:01:12.840 It's a pleasure.

00:01:13.660 It's a great honor, actually.

00:01:14.860 I'm a big fan of yours, John Henry.

00:01:17.780 Praise God.

00:01:18.820 Well, it's very interesting what you have told me about, which we're able to now bring to

00:01:24.840 everyone, it is a treatment for COVID.

00:01:28.380 But this is going to sound, I think, for many people as a shock, because what your research

00:01:32.920 has been in is a treatment for something called sepsis.

00:01:37.920 So maybe you can start there.

00:01:39.560 You know what?

00:01:40.040 In fact, I'm going to get you to start.

00:01:41.360 I gave a little bit about your background.

00:01:42.920 But if you can give us a little bit more about your background and how it applies to what

00:01:47.300 you're doing right now.

00:01:48.380 Well, my background is actually rather maverick because I started off in the arts and literature

00:01:53.720 and even a little bit of theology.

00:01:55.940 And then probably about 20 years ago, because of certain things that happened to do with

00:02:02.120 my old professor at Oxford, I'd always been interested in science.

00:02:06.600 I then moved across to do research and learn biochemistry and medicine and so forth.

00:02:12.060 I'm obviously an academic doctor rather than a medical doctor.

00:02:16.120 But I think this has given me a slight advantage in my work because I'm not classically trained,

00:02:25.060 but I do have the ability to find things in foreign languages.

00:02:30.840 And in my field, vitamin B12 cabalamin, there is a treasure trove of clinical literature in

00:02:38.500 foreign languages.

00:02:39.460 And in the English-speaking world, there is a sort of prejudice that if something isn't

00:02:44.840 published or known about in English, it isn't really science or medicine.

00:02:49.860 But in point of fact, in the period from 1950, which was very shortly, about a year after

00:02:56.660 vitamin B12 was isolated from liver, from 1950 to probably 1980, there is a very interesting

00:03:06.040 period in Europe, Russia, Japan, elsewhere, where doctors are actually using B12 not just

00:03:13.500 for the classic deficiency of B12, which is pernicious anemia, which in its day was as

00:03:19.520 bad as cancer.

00:03:20.280 In fact, it was a death sentence.

00:03:22.280 But they try it for absolutely everything.

00:03:25.020 They use it for episodes of schizophrenia, for rheumatoid arthritis.

00:03:29.200 In the 1950s, they use it to treat polio, because B12 is essential for neurological problems.

00:03:37.660 They use it for leprosy.

00:03:42.220 And for palliative care, they are able to wean.

00:03:45.540 There's a study in a Brazilian-Portuguese hospital where end-stage cancer patients are

00:03:53.140 actually weaned off their morphine using very high doses of B12.

00:03:56.980 I began to read the literature much more widely, and I came across the use of B12 as a cyanide

00:04:04.700 treatment in France and Italy and certain other countries.

00:04:10.280 And what struck me in the use of very high-dose intravenous B12 cobalamin for the treatment

00:04:17.440 of cyanide poisoning was that there were many analogies with septic shock.

00:04:23.460 And not only that, that when people were treated and were rescued with this therapy, they walked

00:04:29.920 out of intensive care within days without any kind of after effects, which is not what

00:04:35.940 you see in sepsis.

00:04:37.180 From there, I then began to...

00:04:40.140 I published a hypothesis.

00:04:41.980 I then met up with...

00:04:44.300 In a conference on inflammation in London, I met up with a professor from the William Harvey

00:04:50.360 Institute, and he and a colleague became interested, and we designed studies together and began

00:04:57.260 a long collaboration, which is, in fact, still ongoing.

00:05:01.400 So that gives you a little bit of my background.

00:05:05.080 Right.

00:05:05.520 Now, how does this sepsis...

00:05:08.400 First of all, if you could define what is sepsis for us, but then how does it relate to COVID?

00:05:12.700 If you are end-stage sepsis, you have serial organ failure, and very often the liver, the

00:05:19.720 kidneys, and the lungs will fail.

00:05:21.720 And if the lungs fail, then you get that acute respiratory distress syndrome.

00:05:26.980 The other thing is that the immune system, when it goes wrong, fundamentally doesn't have

00:05:32.480 many ways of going wrong.

00:05:33.960 There is a pattern.

00:05:35.680 And if you want me to explain sepsis very simply, I have to explain the normal function

00:05:40.980 of the immune system.

00:05:42.640 Now, in a normal immune response, you have two phases.

00:05:46.780 And in the first phase, you have a pro-inflammatory phase.

00:05:52.400 So your immune system will actually produce a certain amount of pro-inflammatory hormones,

00:05:58.380 which are called cytokines.

00:06:00.740 But at the same time, as it starts doing that, it will also start producing some anti-inflammatory

00:06:07.280 hormones, but in very, very low doses.

00:06:10.980 Now, when you get to the peak of the immune response, there's a switchover.

00:06:14.780 So you get decreasing inflammatory factors and increasing anti-inflammatory factors.

00:06:21.540 It's as simple as that in one way.

00:06:23.580 It's like a seesaw.

00:06:25.120 But if that doesn't happen, then you get sepsis.

00:06:28.540 You just get, you know, ever-increasing inflammatory circles.

00:06:33.960 So people who die of COVID are really dying of sepsis because that's the way it shuts.

00:06:40.640 The body is shutting down from COVID.

00:06:43.820 How then does this B12 injection or via IV help the situation?

00:06:49.940 Well, one of the things my colleagues and I, but not just my colleagues and I, there is

00:06:55.000 another group in Milan headed by a neurologist called Giuseppe Scalabrino.

00:07:01.260 And he and his group have discovered that cabalamin B12 regulates certain pro-inflammatory

00:07:08.740 factors that kick in in a bad way when you have, you know, sepsis.

00:07:14.640 And so we've discovered in animal experiments that the pro-inflammatory hormones, tumor necrosis

00:07:24.300 factor alpha, interleukin-1, that these are extremely well regulated by cabalamin because

00:07:32.780 it also regulates a gas called nitric oxide, which is as essential to life as oxygen.

00:07:39.180 Let me stop you there really quick to just to make sure everybody understands.

00:07:42.580 Cobalamin is B12, right?

00:07:44.800 That's what we're talking about.

00:07:45.800 That's correct.

00:07:46.920 Yes.

00:07:47.220 Right.

00:07:47.780 There are various forms of it in the cell, in the body.

00:07:51.040 You tend to find two active forms, methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin.

00:07:58.140 And then there's some hydroxocobalamin.

00:08:01.460 And another reason is that it regulates the immune system.

00:08:05.180 Now, in COVID, when people are very sick, you find that they have very low numbers of what

00:08:12.480 are known as natural killer cells.

00:08:15.620 And one thing that is known, and there are a lot of studies on B12 deficient people, is

00:08:21.140 that when you give B12, natural killer cells are boosted.

00:08:25.120 You also find that T cells, which is a form of a white cell, are also depleted in advance

00:08:33.220 COVID.

00:08:34.300 And we know that vitamin B12, cabalamin, actually boosts the T cells.

00:08:41.100 And it corrects the ratio of helper and killer T cells as well.

00:08:46.640 And it is also absolutely crucial for the production of antibodies.

00:08:54.120 So if we're talking about vaccines, a vaccine is only as good as the immune system that it

00:09:00.700 challenges.

00:09:02.160 And if that immune system is deficient in cabalamin B12, it will not mount such a good response.

00:09:08.860 And there have been a couple of studies in this field with cabalamin in the past.

00:09:13.340 And it was even used as a vaccine adjuvant in 1960 for children with diphtheria.

00:09:21.300 So this is also known.

00:09:24.220 So there's a lot of argument for its use simply on grounds of the immune regulatory effects.

00:09:32.060 We're not talking about the use of regular B12.

00:09:35.240 So people aren't to go home and buy a bottle of the B12 pills and start taking those?

00:09:40.140 No, there's a real problem with absorption of B12 by mouth.

00:09:46.080 So if you take a dose of B12 by mouth, you're going to absorb about one to two percent of

00:09:51.900 it.

00:09:52.720 And if you think, oh, I'll get around this by taking a much higher dose, you, in point of

00:09:57.280 fact, paradoxically, will absorb even less.

00:10:00.900 There is a slight exception to this nowadays.

00:10:03.620 There is a form of oral B12 called liposomal B12, in which the B12 is encapsulated in a

00:10:11.340 sort of lipid sphere.

00:10:13.580 And my observation is that this does have a much higher degree of absorption, but I still

00:10:19.960 would not use it in an emergency.

00:10:22.740 However, that said, if you think you have COVID, there will be absolutely no harm in taking.

00:10:29.120 In fact, I will recommend it, that you get yourself some liposomal B12 as methylcobalamin

00:10:34.860 and take it, just as I would also say, well, take a loading dose of vitamin D, because that's

00:10:42.300 also known to be extremely helpful.

00:10:44.920 And there has, in fact, been a trial in Singapore using oral B12 with oral vitamin D.

00:10:51.440 And this was this last year for COVID.

00:10:53.180 COVID, oral B12, oral vitamin D, and magnesium.

00:10:58.840 So it was just an oral cocktail.

00:11:00.780 And it was a controlled trial.

00:11:03.600 And this is the interesting thing.

00:11:05.300 The people who received the cocktail did not end up in intensive care.

00:11:09.380 They were in hospital, but they didn't need oxygen.

00:11:11.500 They didn't end up in the ICU.

00:11:13.440 The people who didn't needed oxygen and were in the ICU in the end.

00:11:18.280 What kind of dosages are you talking about with regard to that study and the oral only?

00:11:23.560 Oral only, you probably would get about, I don't know what you really, I don't think

00:11:28.840 anybody really knows how much you can get in with a liposomal form of oral B12.

00:11:34.720 But my observation is that people have a sort of energy response to taking it, which is the

00:11:40.740 kind of response you get from a B12 injection, because B12 is essential for energy pathways.

00:11:48.280 So if you have an injection of B12, you have a sort of high from, you know, an energetic

00:11:53.520 boost.

00:11:54.320 In terms of what you would use in hospital, or even injecting at home, if your doctor would

00:12:01.440 prescribe it, I'm talking about 25, depending, because it is a little bit weight dependent.

00:12:08.280 If you're treating a child, you would use less.

00:12:10.400 50,000 micrograms, which you could get if you have a concentration of 25,000 per mil,

00:12:22.000 it's two mil, that would be two, one mil insulin syringes, could be given at home.

00:12:28.400 And will probably stop people ending up in hospital if they use it on a daily basis.

00:12:33.180 And the safety of this is known, even in its injected form or IV form, is already known?

00:12:40.640 Yes.

00:12:41.180 In fact, the safety data goes back about half a century.

00:12:45.760 In terms of the injectable form and the dose that I'm suggesting would be effective, which

00:12:53.380 is also incidentally based on the studies that I did with colleagues at the William Harvey Institute.

00:12:59.900 That form is currently being tested in Japan in a clinical trial for motor neuron disease.

00:13:09.400 But the Japanese already tested it way back in the mid-1990s for six months.

00:13:16.860 Daily injections of that dose, nobody died, nobody killed over, nobody had any negative side

00:13:24.900 effects.

00:13:26.400 So that, but the much higher doses that are used for cyanide, there's reams of pharmacological

00:13:35.420 safety data going back half a century because it's been used in the clinic and people have

00:13:41.760 initially studied it in dogs and larger animals.

00:13:45.700 And then in the clinic, I think if you have very, very poor kidney function, that might be

00:13:53.760 a counterindication for the high dose intravenous amount.

00:13:57.900 In hospital, if people came into hospital and you wanted to stop them getting into the ICU,

00:14:04.040 I would say try the 50,000 microgram dose on a daily basis until you see people turning the

00:14:12.400 corner and leaving hospital.

00:14:13.740 Wow. Now, this seems like a fairly straightforward treatment, a rather simple treatment compared

00:14:21.080 to even what's out there right now.

00:14:23.840 Very comparable, I guess, to the treatment via ivermectin or HCQ.

00:14:30.420 But there's no big reception for these things.

00:14:34.540 If you could speak to that for a minute, just about the lack of reception to this at the time

00:14:39.620 when it seems everyone would need it.

00:14:40.980 This is a problem, really, because it has more to do with the whole mindset of health

00:14:47.360 and welfare agencies worldwide, everywhere.

00:14:51.680 We're dominated by the big pharma paradigm.

00:14:56.140 We've actually forgotten that the history of medicine teaches us that sometimes the solution

00:15:03.240 to something that's quite heinous or very difficult is something very simple or something that's

00:15:09.180 in front of our eyes.

00:15:10.320 I mean, if you take scurvy, for example, the cure for scurvy was known, I think, by the Chinese.

00:15:18.540 There's a Chinese monk who wrote about it in their era around about 400.

00:15:23.580 And then it was known and forgotten about repeatedly.

00:15:27.500 People always think about, oh, it was Lind, it was the limes for scurvy.

00:15:32.780 But it wasn't, actually.

00:15:33.820 Before that, there were Portuguese.

00:15:37.240 Vasco da Gama knew about the importance of taking oranges and lemons on his expedition.

00:15:43.480 There were Spaniards who knew.

00:15:46.780 Lind had quite a fight.

00:15:48.460 And it took centuries of repeatedly forgetting.

00:15:53.380 Then you have things like childbed fever, pulporal fever, as it was called.

00:16:00.260 Women in childbirth used to die up and, well, not so long ago, really, because physicians 0.92

00:16:07.700 would go from one bed to another in a hospital examining children, women who'd had children.

00:16:13.600 And they didn't realize they were carrying bacteria from one woman to another. 1.00

00:16:17.540 And along came two people.

00:16:20.840 One, in America, it was Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.

00:16:25.780 And he said, you have to wash your hands.

00:16:28.620 And he was derided.

00:16:30.900 And why was he derided?

00:16:32.480 Because apparently gentlemen have clean hands and doctors are gentlemen.

00:16:36.360 And so they didn't need to wash their hands.

00:16:38.700 And then later on in Austria.

00:16:41.160 In Austria, there was another doctor called Semmelweis.

00:16:45.240 And he realized that the germs were being carried from woman to woman in child, in child, in, you know, by the physicians and begged them to wash their hands.

00:16:55.540 He did his own study.

00:16:56.780 He showed that it seemed to make a difference.

00:16:59.360 But again, he was derided.

00:17:01.160 And in fact, he ended up very badly.

00:17:03.380 His colleagues had him certified and he died of sepsis in an asylum.

00:17:09.160 Oh, gosh.

00:17:10.020 I know, it's a terrible story.

00:17:11.540 There's one terrible story after another.

00:17:13.980 Then there's sort of brown rice for pellagra and beriberi.

00:17:17.160 And there's vitamin A for the measles blindness in the third world.

00:17:22.900 There is the story of yellow fever in Philadelphia, where there was a Cuban doctor called Carlos Finlay in Cuba.

00:17:33.580 And he was telling people for 25 years, the mosquitoes are the vector.

00:17:39.240 And that's how long it took.

00:17:40.520 I mean, so this is history repeating itself, I think, that we once knew it, actually.

00:17:48.320 Around about 1950, shortly after B12 was isolated from liver, there was an editor of a very prestigious international journal, which is still ongoing now, Blood.

00:18:00.440 And that editor wrote, he said, we have now the appearance of something of almost incredible potency.

00:18:09.280 He said, an absolute minimal dose and you get a full response in someone with pernicious anemia within days and the whole of the blood is regenerated, the whole of the immune system.

00:18:20.280 And he said, has there ever been in medicine anything so potent as this microgram for microgram?

00:18:27.320 And after that, people in Europe, in Japan, in Russia, in North and South America used B12.

00:18:36.380 They tried it on everything.

00:18:38.100 And there are a lot of success stories which have been forgotten about.

00:18:41.560 How practical is this for doctors to do today?

00:18:47.460 A patient feels they have COVID, calls the doctor, you got to help me.

00:18:52.500 I heard about this thing, you know, this treatment with B12.

00:18:55.800 Is it actually doable that they can get what they need right now to treat themselves either at home or in a doctor's office?

00:19:03.960 I think it's very doable.

00:19:05.360 I think if a patient wants to just help themselves and they're not serious enough to get into hospital, I would recommend that they get some liposomal B12 as methylcobalamin to begin with.

00:19:17.320 If they're deteriorating but they're not at the hospital stage, I mean, we do need a complete mind change here in the medical profession because most doctors only know about B12 and its uses for pernicious anemia.

00:19:32.500 And to cure pernicious anemia, you just need a relatively low injected dose.

00:19:40.400 You don't need the kinds of high doses I'm talking about.

00:19:43.320 The high doses, they make a big difference and there are studies, for example, I'm going to tell you about a study in rats where the rats were, they had their paws injured so that the nerves were damaged.

00:19:58.520 And they were given a dose by injection, not by injection, but the rat equivalent that was higher than the pernicious anemia injectable dose and it didn't have an effect.

00:20:09.980 And then they were given a super astronomic dose and that made all the difference.

00:20:14.180 So one has to go on upwards.

00:20:17.560 I mean, you wouldn't use a low dose of B12 as a cyanide antidote.

00:20:21.160 The reason there is an astronomic dose for that is because you have to kind of match the power of the cyanide with a certain amount of the cobalt in your system, the cobalt that is the heart of the B12.

00:20:35.320 If you want something that's going to pull somebody right back from the edge, what I would do is to use the very high dose intravenous B12, which is available in one form as the anticyanide kit.

00:20:50.880 It's called Cyanokit and is made by now made by a North American company.

00:20:56.840 It used to be made by Merck.

00:20:58.080 But ideally, you would use one of the active forms of cobalamin, and that's methylcobalamin.

00:21:05.380 And for that, you would have to have that supplied by a compounding pharmacy.

00:21:10.300 But there are compounding pharmacies in North America and Europe and elsewhere.

00:21:15.240 And India and China are actually some of the great producers of methylcobalamin, by the way.

00:21:21.120 This treatment, would it be very expensive?

00:21:23.760 Or is this, you know, because one of the treatments I think that President Trump received, I think, was $3,000 a dose.

00:21:31.300 What are we talking here for this treatment with vitamin B12 injections or via IV?

00:21:38.360 If we're talking about two mil injections, a 30 mil vial costs in the region of 200 pounds.

00:21:47.100 That's with markups, you know, from doctors, etc.

00:21:50.440 So you can calculate backwards.

00:21:52.320 My math is not very good.

00:21:54.740 The cyanokit is overpriced.

00:21:58.460 And this is another reason I'm actually advocating methylcobalamin, because I know that it costs a fraction of the cost of the cyanokit.

00:22:08.060 The only thing is that the cyanokit hydroxocobalamin is actually licensed.

00:22:14.860 And methylcobalamin, I think, would be treated as experimental.

00:22:18.580 So that would be another difference.

00:22:21.120 If people wanted to reach out to Dr. Wheatley, where could they do that?

00:22:24.980 I have a website, canceraction.org.gg, currently being overhauled, so it should be up shortly.

00:22:34.720 And also, I wanted to know, what else would you like to bring to our listeners about this treatment and about COVID in general?

00:22:44.980 If we had a really successful treatment for COVID, it would completely take the pressure off the vaccination end of the treatment approach to COVID.

00:22:58.240 And I think people could get back to normal quickly.

00:23:03.220 The other thing is that the economic cost of cobalamin versus drugs would be a huge factor across the world for governments everywhere,

00:23:14.080 because I say that, you know, the pandemic is the straw that broke the camel's back in respect of health care systems everywhere.

00:23:24.460 Before COVID, you know, we already had a growing crisis across the world with economics of how health care systems are managed and run,

00:23:40.160 simply because we have all these epidemics that people don't mention.

00:23:43.660 We have dementia, which I believe is something like 50 million and rising.

00:23:49.820 We have type 2 diabetes, an explosion of that.

00:23:54.200 We have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

00:23:58.840 We have things like 873 million people in the world with hepatitis, various different kinds of hepatitis.

00:24:07.240 We also have a third of the world infected with TB, and we are now at the end of the golden era of antibiotics and well into the era of antibiotic resistance.

00:24:21.220 And we have increasing problems with extremely drug-resistant TB.

00:24:26.540 We have increasing depression and mental health problems in the world.

00:24:31.960 And because most health care systems everywhere are dominated by the drug paradigm, they are being bankrupted.

00:24:41.760 Governments are coming to the point where the pressure, the economic pressure, is going to have to make them think,

00:24:47.400 we need to take a different approach to health so that the burden does not fall so much on them.

00:24:54.560 And people need to be better educated, but also we need to take advantage of some of the so-called simple things.

00:25:04.560 I mean, vitamin B12 isn't simple at all.

00:25:07.540 It's actually the most complex molecule in nature.

00:25:11.960 And I think that just as in life, you know, character often determines one's destiny.

00:25:17.640 I think in chemistry, structure tells you something about the potency.

00:25:23.080 And so this is no ordinary vitamin.

00:25:26.680 It's the central regulator of inflammation and the immune response.

00:25:31.000 And it is possible to use it for a whole host of things that people have not really tapped into the full potential of.

00:25:40.960 And I include cancer in that story.

00:25:43.760 Here's a question then.

00:25:45.040 I guess this really does come down to the heart of the matter.

00:25:47.640 With the pharmaceutical industries just being absolute monsters with regard to what's going on in the medical world.

00:25:56.380 And as we've seen over this last year, especially, even doing their best to shut down other possible treatments.

00:26:05.500 They're involved in politics.

00:26:07.180 They have lobbyists who are doing all sorts of things,

00:26:09.940 able to basically close off avenues to other treatments that they don't like,

00:26:14.700 because either they're not not going to work for their profit or whatever motive they might have.

00:26:22.240 When and where do you see us or how do you see us getting out of this mess?

00:26:27.060 Doctors can use things on compassionate grounds.

00:26:29.880 If someone's at the point of death in America, we know that Trump introduced the right to try in the UK.

00:26:37.840 We have provision made in the greater medical London guidelines in the GMC guidelines for nonstandard use of drugs and experimental therapies where there is no standard therapy for something.

00:26:55.800 I think doctors have to take courage and say, well, there's no downside to this.

00:27:03.140 We'll do it.

00:27:04.040 We'll try it.

00:27:04.760 You know, if someone's dying, why not?

00:27:06.960 There's very little to lose if something that has a very safe profile.

00:27:12.500 There is something else I'd like to tell you about vitamin B12.

00:27:15.720 It has a sort of central ring, which is like a warped cross in a way.

00:27:22.320 And the heart of the ring is a cobalt atom.

00:27:26.740 And then it has a sort of upper and a lower arm.

00:27:30.960 And the upper arm is variable.

00:27:33.140 So you can have cyanide latching onto the cobalt.

00:27:36.240 You can have methyl groups.

00:27:38.300 It changes.

00:27:40.020 The lower arm is what is known as a nucleotide.

00:27:43.720 And if I were to show you a picture of that, it looks pretty much like most of the antiviral or antiretroviral drugs on the market.

00:27:55.800 And not only is B12 cobalamin a central regulator of the immune system, it actually has a known or hidden history, I would say.

00:28:08.580 Some of it is known.

00:28:09.740 Some of it is hidden.

00:28:10.460 And I uncovered quite a lot of it recently as an antiviral.

00:28:15.160 So historically, we know that it has action against influenza A and B, although it was never brought into the clinic.

00:28:23.960 But a certain amount of animal studies were done in the 1950s and then again by the Russians in 1976.

00:28:31.040 We know that it has action against polio, against HIV.

00:28:37.460 The HIV story is very interesting.

00:28:40.620 It also has action against shingles, against chicken pox and against the papillomavirus, which is a non-canic virus, i.e. it's cancer-causing virus, cause of cervical cancer.

00:28:54.340 So part of the reason is it has indirect effects through the way it regulates the immune system by regulating the gas nitric oxide, but it also has direct antiviral effects.

00:29:08.300 And in this last year, I have watched, I mentioned earlier, the trial in Singapore where oral B12 was used, vitamin D.

00:29:18.320 But there were also a couple of what are known as molecular studies published.

00:29:24.460 And these take, you know, the COVID structure or parts of it, and they take whatever structure they want to test and see if they mesh in some way.

00:29:35.540 And two studies showed that methylcobalamin and cyanocobalamin would interfere with COVID directly in a structural fashion.

00:29:47.120 This was a surprise to me, given that it has a sort of pleiotropic effect.

00:29:52.420 What does that mean, pleiotropic?

00:29:54.080 Multi.

00:29:54.840 It has effects against many different.

00:29:58.020 So some of the antivirals on the market will only work against some viruses.

00:30:07.000 Some will work against a number.

00:30:09.300 For instance, remdesivir has been, you know, called into play in COVID, but obviously wasn't originally designed for COVID.

00:30:17.660 I think this is a God-given antiviral and that it is a pan-antiviral.

00:30:23.240 And so that adds another strand to the argument as to why it would be effective.

00:30:32.620 There's data out there published this last year, as well as the kinds of arguments that I've been making.

00:30:40.240 And yet nobody has taken it further than using it orally in the Singapore trial.

00:30:45.260 And even that was, you know, in combination with vitamin D, which I rate highly as well, even that was effective.

00:30:53.240 So imagine if one went the whole hog and, you know, tried the intramuscular or insulin type injections or even intravenous if you had a very acute case.

00:31:04.840 And is this, does this also have then a prophylactic effect?

00:31:08.820 In other words, an effect of taking it to prevent getting the virus, or is it more only for a treatment?

00:31:15.180 I think that it would have a prophylactic effect.

00:31:18.060 And in fact, I'm going to say that one of the things that really, really surprised me shortly after governments everywhere started announcing COVID

00:31:27.300 is the lack of advice on how you boost your immune system naturally that people were not given.

00:31:37.200 And yet, you know, most people know that vitamin C has antiviral effects.

00:31:43.500 Vitamin D did come into play.

00:31:45.880 And I believe that in France, when people arrive in hospital with COVID, they're tested for their vitamin D.

00:31:52.820 And if they're found to be low in vitamin D, they're given a loading dose of vitamin D because they know that it makes a difference to outcomes.

00:32:02.000 And what is a loading dose, just so that we know?

00:32:04.160 I'm told that 50,000 IU, which is very, very high, it's not what you would normally take on a daily basis.

00:32:11.840 But, you know, as a one-off, I think it's pretty safe.

00:32:15.380 The way to take very high vitamin D, though, is to combine it with a form of vitamin K called vitamin K2, MK7.

00:32:24.620 And that actually makes the high doses very safe.

00:32:28.200 But on a daily basis, you could do a combination of 10,000 IU vitamin D3 combined with about 500 to 1,000 micrograms of K2.

00:32:41.720 And that, I think, would be a useful thing to do if you want to boost the immune system.

00:32:49.480 And there's no guarantee it's going to stop you getting COVID.

00:32:52.580 But the thing that perturbed me when I realized that governments were not issuing this kind of general common sense boost your immune system advice

00:33:03.840 is that governments seem to act as if they own your immune system and that there is, you know, that you're not safe unless you have treatments, vaccines, etc.

00:33:14.840 But in point of fact, we know, given that most people do rather well with COVID and it's only a small percentage that don't,

00:33:22.280 the immune system does have a big part to play.

00:33:24.980 And what we need to do is fortify the people who are in the at-risk categories, get their systems fortified by doing B12 in liposomal form,

00:33:38.040 taking vitamin C, taking D, and there are other things like selenium and zinc, and there are herbal antivirals.

00:33:48.060 There's a whole host of things that one could look into, but to me it was very perturbing,

00:33:53.680 but it does seem to be something to do with the fact that, you know, unless the government tells you, you can't do it.

00:33:59.660 I think that really does provide people with an enlightening look into vitamin B12

00:34:06.160 and its possibilities for treatment and that really we haven't tapped into yet from what we've learned from you.

00:34:14.860 Dr. Wheatley, I want to thank you very much for joining us on this episode of The John Henry Weston Show.

00:34:19.240 And may God bless you.

00:34:20.120 Pleasure to talk to you. Thank you.

00:34:21.640 And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - February 23, 2021

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