Alexander Tschugguel offered up COVID-19 sufferings for Pope Francis
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Summary
Alexander Chuguel, the man who removed the Pachamama idols from the church in Rome, who you also know was struggling with coronavirus and is recovered, joins us to talk about his experience with the virus.
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Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we're going to be talking with
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Alexander Chuguel, whom you all know as the one who removed the Pachamama idols from the church
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in Rome, who you also know was struggling with coronavirus and is recovered. So you're going to
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Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father, and
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Very good to see you again. Very good to see you healthy again. I'm sure very many of our
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viewers will be very pleased to see you healthy and vigorous.
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Yes, yes. Thank you very much. I first of all want to thank all of the LifeSite readers
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and viewers for all the prayers. I know I got tons of prayers from you and from your
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families. And I'm very grateful for that because I really experienced the power of prayer in
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a very unique way. And I'm very happy to announce that it worked out. So I'm really, I'm kind
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of, well, again, I do not have the coronavirus anymore. And my pneumonia is also gone, most
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of it. And so I'm still a little bit weak, but that's normal if you have a heavier sickness.
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Excellent. We're going to talk about that. But also I want to focus on what's going on in
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the world. I know you've paid a lot of attention to the globalist agenda in the past, but there
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is stuff going on right now that is so very concerning. We'll get to that in a minute.
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But first of all, just give us a very brief summary of what actually you went through
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with the coronavirus. I know you did a longer talk with, with Daylor Marshall, and I encourage
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people to go watch that there. But if you can give us just a short summary of what happened
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and what you experienced, what signs to look for so that people know going forward, what
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Yes. So first of all, I do not know why I got the virus. There are many different possibilities.
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I was very exposed to many different people. For all my traveling through Europe, I was in
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many planes and I was in Italy many times. So I don't know why I got the virus. It started
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in my case with a freezing, a big freezing shake. So I was shaking, suddenly starting to shake.
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And then we got my temperature. So I had a very high fever and it started with very high fever
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and the shaking. And then I was very ill and I could not eat anymore. I could hardly, I could
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hardly smell anything. My whole taste, my taste was gone. And I started coughing in a very dry
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way, which apparently is a sign, a typical sign for the flu too, but also very strongly
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for the coronavirus. And then I was very sick and I could not really move. So I was lying
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in the bed and my wife took care of me and we called the doctors. There is an emergency
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telephone number we can call right now in Austria. And then there is a doctor's service coming
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to your house with full protection clothing. And they tested me. The test is a little bit
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ugly because they put something in your nose. So they did that and found out that I was positive.
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It took them two days to figure that out, but that's normal for the big test.
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And so after, in general, five days, I knew that I'm corona positive. Up until that time,
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I was really weak. All my legs and arms hurt pretty much. And I was very, very, let's say,
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how do you say, so temperatures, different temperatures, especially if it was too cold,
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I immediately felt that I still feel that way too strong. Normally, I'm kind of immune to cold
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temperatures. And this time it was not at all like this. So it was very, very strange. And then it got
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worse and worse. And so my wife was completely exhausted already. And we decided that I go to
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the hospital. Then the ambulance had to pick me up because I was not allowed to leave my home
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quarantine without the ambulance. This was a law. So the ambulance had to pick me up and brought me to
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the hospital. And there they tested me and found out that I have not enough O2 in my blood.
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And so they put me onto an O2 with an O2 mask. I did not have the heavy O2 machines near to be
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turned on. So I did not have something going into your lungs directly. But I had a mask. And with that,
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and then I got a very ugly medication, which was actually a medicament against HIV. And the HIV
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virus is, it seems quite similar. I don't know, but this kind of works a little bit against the
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coronavirus. And I got infusions and everything. And after a week in the hospital, I suddenly turned
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better. It was actually on Sunday. So one, one and a half weeks ago. And so on Monday, they released me
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and made another corona test. And a few days later, I heard that this corona test was then
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negative, which is very good. So I managed to really push out the coronavirus. But I still
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had a pneumonia. And the pneumonia was there until two days ago. I don't know. And so yesterday,
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I got tested again by a doctor. And I do not have pneumonia anymore, but I'm still a little bit
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weak. So yes, there are many different signs of coronavirus. In my hospital room, there were
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three other people. Some of them had very similar experiences to mine. One of them had a complete
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different experience with very heavy briefing problems, which I thank God never had. So there
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are many different possibilities how to get the coronavirus and many different possibilities of how
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it develops in your body. Mm hmm. One of the interesting symbols or signs that I've heard from
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many people is that they lose the sense of smell. Did you have that as well? Yes, the smell and taste
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smell and taste. I did not taste anything anymore. So I everything tasted disgusting for me. And I did not
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smell anything. So we had I it was very interesting. I tell you a strange story. I had a I had a I had a
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very I had very strange dreams during the sickness because I never really slept. I was always half awake.
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So it was kind of awake. You know, if you have a dream while being awake, you know what I mean?
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And I had very strange dreams. And and all those dreams were in black and white, which normally is
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not the case in my dreams. I normally dream with colors. So I told that to my wife and so on. And
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she told that to her family. And and then her sister decides to bring us flowers. And this actually
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changed my dreams because my dreams then were not not black and white anymore because we had all the
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flowers in the room. And I could not smell any of the flowers. My wife loved it, the smell, but I could
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not smell any of them. Wow. Wow. Now, interesting. One of the things that
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came out is that you were offering up your suffering. Tell us a little bit about that,
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because I think that for many people who will get this, their relatives, their young
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relatives or whomever older relatives will get this. One of the key features that we have an
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opportunity with here is to offer this up both our own suffering, but also the suffering we endure
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when our own loved ones have this. Yes, it is. It is very important to understand that
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this is actually one of the main points about Catholicism to understand suffering and what to
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do with suffering and how to sacrifice this for others and in general how to sacrifice the suffering
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or sacrifice yourself to some to something else. So what can I say? It was very interesting. I was
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praying every day and I have to admit that it was very hard for me to pray. Normally, it's not that
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hard. So every rosary, every Hail Mary took me hours. Sometimes it took me five or six tries to get
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one Hail Mary through because through this whole being sick and I completely lost my concentration. So
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it was very difficult. And I think this is also a kind of a test, a trial, you know. And then I always
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ask God to show me for whom I'm suffering or for what exactly I'm suffering and what exactly is the cause.
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And then it was very interesting. Then suddenly I recognized first of all that a big part of the
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suffering is directly for the Pope because I saw it was very strange. I cannot explain you actually
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why, but I suddenly knew that we really have to pray in an enormous way for the current Pope because
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the current Pope, okay, without comment right now, but it's just, it's really important to pray for him.
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It's really important. I cannot stress that out enough. So especially for him coming, going to
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heaven. This is very important that he, that he comes to heaven because out of many reasons, I think
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that the pray is very important here. And then there's another, and then there was something else going
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on. I suddenly, I had all this suffering and suddenly I got a message from a good friend. He is also a
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a high rank clergyman. And he wrote me and, and, and asked me how I am and so on. And I'm,
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I was asking him and asking, you know, is there anything I can pray for? And he wrote me one
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sentence or very clear what I can, could pray for. And this was like, um, like if God had answered my
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prayers because it was really on the point where I really wanted to know why am I suffering so much
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for, uh, because I, I do not have lung problems. I was never afraid that I die actually. So, so maybe it's a,
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uh, uh, uh, I heard it's a typical thing of men to, to be in, be, you know, to suffer more than women
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do normally if they are sick, but it was, it was really a bad, I was really in a bad situation. And,
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and also my wife was very unhappy and we all did not know how long this will take. Some said 30,
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30 days even, which could have actually with, without this briefing mask could have been that it
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would have taken, I don't know how many days longer. And so suddenly I had this and I was so
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calm and I knew, oh, well, that's, that's it. So the Pope and this special, um, this special, uh,
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request I got by this, by this clergy man to say it that way. And I cannot talk about this too much,
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but it's really, it's really wonderful. So I, I can only tell all the people who watch that if you
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suffer it not, maybe not because of the Corona virus, but maybe because of all the measurements
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which are being taken right now because of the Corona virus, if you suffer, if you, even if you
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are, if you're good parents and you're at home with many children and they cannot go to school anymore
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and it's, and you have the feeling it gets too much for you, uh, which many parents have. And I
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completely understand them. There's nothing you should not blame yourself for that. That's completely
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normal. If you're not used to something and suddenly you have such a big task to, to manage,
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but sacrifice this and ask God for help and for an answer to your brain. And he will,
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I I'm sure that this is nothing. It was not a miracle with me. This is the way God works.
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If you ask him for something, you get an answer. The question is, of course, if the answer,
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if you ask him with an open heart so that you really will accept, uh, every answer God gives
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you, or if you ask him, but in secret wish for a special answer. So really ask him with an open
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heart and ask him and say, well, whatever it is, God, whatever you want to want me to do,
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it is what I want. Um, please just give me an answer to my, to my, to my question. I think this is
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a very beautiful prayer. And especially in those strange times, uh, I'd like to say,
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I think it's a very important approach. We all, we Catholics should all have.
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Absolutely. One of the, one of the most important things that Catholics can do is yes, we can even
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make sacrifices, our prayers, works, joys, our sacrifices and sufferings we always offer to God.
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But those sufferings I think are very special because they are imposed upon us by the will of God.
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And to accept them even with joy, even though they're hard to, to, to offer them back to our
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Lord, to accept them as coming from him is so, so important and so full of grace.
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Yes, that's very true. And there is in addition, uh, something we always have to remember.
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God told us that we have to carry our cross to follow him. Christ told us directly, if you want
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to follow me, deny yourself, carry your cross and follow me. And so we know that every one of us,
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us has a unique cross to carry. And this unique cross is, as we know, because God, uh, Christ
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says, take upon your cross. So he, the, the cross is there, the cross is nothing as we do not choose it.
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It was given to us by God and he gives us so that we can, can take it. He gives us all the, um, needed,
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um, um, um, what do you say? What do you say? Graces, graces, and, and, and, you know,
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he gives us all the needed graces to carry it. So for example, I, I, I give you a very good example.
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There are sometimes, there are tasks, um, given to people which require heavy labor. And normally the
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people who have this task are, have the possibility to do this heavy labor. And now it's the same.
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If God gives the parents or the people also who stand alone, uh, we never, we should never forget
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them. They are also, they are also loved by God, um, depending on, of course, uh, and how they act,
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but God all loves them. And if we watch them, we see now in this strange crisis that there are many
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tasks coming up, praying for others, sacrificing, um, your own suffering, sacrificing also your loneliness.
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Loneliness means suffering too for many. Sacrifice that too. For others, the loneliness is very easy
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because they are more introverts. And so maybe they can use the time and do a good work for others.
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Call them, call the relatives, um, be with them if they need help, uh, help them in any possible way.
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So there are many different possibilities, uh, of how we could live our Christian and Catholic life right
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now. And especially crisis like this gives us more possibilities, even though it looks like it takes
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away the possibilities because for many of us, it takes away receiving the sacraments and going to
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the Holy mass, which is terrible. And I think we will talk about that, um, too, but we have to understand
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that this is all part of the suffering and especially in land, this kind of suffering as hard as it sounds
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is actually very, very good for land. Yeah. Yeah. Well, many of the people who watch my program
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are very good, very holy people for whom the sacrifice of the loss of daily mass, let alone
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even Sunday mass, but is probably one of the most severe sufferings they've ever endured in their lives.
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And it is a feeling of, in a way, the loss of your most loved person. You want to go and, and, and, and
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even sit outside the church door or do anything to come close to our Lord, but we're barred. Some of
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us even barred from leaving a home at all. And so that suffering is, is a, you feel it and it's so hard to
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still know that our Lord is with us, that we have these graces because you feel so separated from the
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one you love the most. Yes. So, uh, let me give you a very clear answer to that. There are different,
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different things I think we have to talk about now. First of all, we always have to remember that there
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are many saints and many martyrs who had the same situation out of different reasons so that they could
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not attend any mass. Just think of the, of the martyrs and saints of the Soviet Union. Just think
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of the martyrs of saints and saints in the, in the first center, centuries of Christianity, um,
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where many of them, as soon as they said publicly that they are Christian, were put into jail and
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afterwards killed. So many of them did not have the chance to visit any mass and to get all the
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sacraments and so on. But God was with them because they were saying they were sacrificing
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it and suffering for him and for, for the good. So what we have to understand is that of course it
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is not right. And we have to state this many times that right now, um, most of the bishops and most of
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the priests are really not doing what they should do and not, um, um, going around and caring for the
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sake of the people's souls and for the, uh, and for the people and not, uh, going around and, and
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offering them ways to receive the sacrament and so on. This is wrong, but still we as Catholics have
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to take this. Maybe it's a punishment for whatever we don't know for the, all the terrible things
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happening on earth, maybe for the abortion, for euthanasia, for, um, bowing down in front of pagan
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idols, for, um, all the destroying of families, uh, homosexual marriage and so on. We don't know,
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but it's, it's clear that this, this is an answer to something. So we have to really take this upon us
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and understand that this puts us in a situation like the people, I now give the example because
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we all know Bishop Athanasius Schneider, like the families in the times in the Soviet Union,
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they all had to form house churches. They all had to celebrate, celebrate all the big,
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like Eastern and, and, and Christmas, all big feasts. They all had to celebrate them without a
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holy mass most of the time. And what they did is they connected themselves in prayer with other,
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with, with a holy mass somewhere on earth. They, they read the daily prayers. They prayed them
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together. They sang songs together. They worshiped Christ. They built up different things
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for example, in the, in the land, they prayed the way of the cross without a priest. They did a palm
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procession without priests, um, just in a small, in small. So there are many different possibilities,
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uh, how we Catholics can still maintain the Catholic culture and prayer life without the priests. But we
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always have to, we always have to have in our mind that this is not a good situation. It is rather a
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situation of suffering. And we take this upon us. We should not get used to the idea that this is the
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right way. The right way of, is of course, to have it with a priest in the church and with the holy mass
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being celebrated, the sacraments being, um, handed out to the ones who are allowed to receive them.
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. One of the, one of the amazing, one of the amazing things now about this time is that
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we're able to find masses online. You can look up your favorite holiest priest, if they're doing streaming
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masses and, and receive, I've, I've seen some incredible, uh, masses, Latin masses that are,
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is celebrated by fraternity priests all over the world. The homilies are astounding. So there are
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some possibilities now that we don't normally have. Um, and, and so that's neat, but it is surely a
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suffering nonetheless. Because we are not allowed to forget that, of course, watching a mass online is
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not attending a mass, but still it is a big grace given to us. And it's wonderful because we can
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at least, at least see that the holy sacrifice is still happening on earth. We can be part of it
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more than we could be part of it without the camera. This is good. And we can at least listen
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to the chants and listen to the homilies. So this is of course wonderful, but it's not, of course,
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it's not the same as visiting a mass. Uh, what, what is so great about that is actually that many
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of the faithful out there right now see who the priests are, they can trust who the priests are,
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who continue their work and to continue their ministry on earth. And I want to say,
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tell you an example from Austria. I, I talked to many different traditional priests in the last weeks,
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um, all over Austria to really different ones. And they all told me that since the lockdown of the
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churches, they have way more to do than they normally have. They normally have a full calendar,
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but now they have really more to do. For example, a French priest of mine, he listened to over 50
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confessions only on the weekend. He gave two last unctions on one day now, which is not so much
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compared to the black death last unctions. I have some numbers here. I want to mention them later,
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but just imagine this. It's one priest only 50 confessions on one weekend is very good. And two
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last unctions is also very good. So you see that the priests we can trust are now priests who really
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have, you know, an additional aura around them so that other people and other faithful can see that
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they can trust them too. And that's very good. And that shows again, that God gives us many graces
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in the time. I would like you to mention those numbers from the plague from the time of the black
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death, because, uh, we have in the United States, in Canada, various dioceses, absolute prohibitions
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from bishops telling their priests, they may not at all hear any confessions that includes giving last
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rites. They talk about, oh, just that people will make a perfect act of contrition. That's it.
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So they've sort of said that their priests must obey them. And I'd love to hear what you have to say
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about that. So in Europe, it's the same in many dioceses. There are many, a little bit better
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dioceses and unfortunately many dioceses who are as worse as you told me right now. But now I want to
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give you some old numbers because the people sometimes do not really get, um, um, an understanding
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of how it was in the past times. So I have two numbers. One is from the first black death epitome,
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the 14th century in Austria, and the second one from the 17th century, second past, uh, um,
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black death epitome. So I now quote, um, 14th century in Vienna, the calendarium of the monastery
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of Zvetl, which is outside of Vienna, but had, uh, sent many monks to Vienna, um, says that
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all inhabitants of Vienna who died of the black death got the last unctions, quote, end quote.
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All inhabitants of Vienna says the calendarium of the monastery. Of course, it can be that they forgot
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one or two, or they did not have the possibility to give it to one or two. We don't know that.
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But everyone of whom we know got the last unctions in the 14th century in Vienna, the whole city of
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Vienna in the medieval city. So first of all, and now I give you a, a, a number, which is a little
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bit nicer from the 17th century so that you can get it in a kind of, you know, you know, to compare it.
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On the 18th of May 1680, um, the Viennese, um, city council, or however you could translate this,
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gave testimony to the Franciscans that they gave more than 30,000 people the sacraments
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in the time of the black death, 1679. 30,000 people only by the convent of the Franciscans of
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Vienna. And this is half a church history book. It's not an, it's not an invented number. We have
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this written, it's a, it's a historical fact. So what you can see here is the difference to
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nowadays times. 30,000 people only by one convent of monks got the last unctions in a, in a, in a black
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death epidemic, in an epidemic of a sickness, which is way worse than the coronavirus, even though the
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coronavirus is nothing we should joke with, but it's of course nothing compared to the black death.
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And in the 14th century, we know from the calendarium of the monastery of Zwetl, that every, that person in
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Vienna, because of, as a death, that because of the black death person, we know about got the last
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unction. Amazing, amazing. Just this, you have to compare this numbers with our, with our bishops
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nowadays to say, close down, don't hand out everything. Or, or with the prime minister of
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England, whatever you normally think of him, but he explicitly forbid the baptism, for example,
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which, and of course, there's no reason at all for this. First of all, we know that little
00:26:11.720
children are not, are not at all in danger because we know that the coronavirus, even though it goes
00:26:17.320
quite low, so there are people who are quite young, but newborn children are up until now not affected
00:26:24.440
at all by it. And we even had already a woman in Italy giving birth to her child, even though she
00:26:30.600
had the coronavirus and the child was completely healthy. So we have many examples and we know how
00:26:35.960
the baptism works. We know that of course we could have distance. And in some countries and some
00:26:41.160
dioceses, this is forbidden. In Austria, I'm very happy to announce this is most of the, I think it's
00:26:46.600
nowhere forbidden. Confession in Vienna is, for example, very difficult. I know good priests and
00:26:53.640
they are open for confession and you can always call them. But first of all, I want to say that even
00:27:00.760
though the church recommends that you get a confession father, there are many people who go to confession
00:27:06.200
regularly, but who do not want to have a personal confession father because they, because of their
00:27:12.040
personality, like to stay a little bit more hidden, which is okay and which is allowed. It's allowed
00:27:17.720
for them to be like this. It's allowed. It depends on, of course, what their confession father says. But
00:27:22.760
it is really an anonymous confession that this is very important for those people. And so they,
00:27:29.800
for example, cannot go to confession. Then there are many people who are faithful but do not have a
00:27:35.320
personal good contact or many people who are very old and who do not have cell phones with them to call
00:27:40.600
a priest whenever they need one. So we really have to say that this situation now asks from us
00:27:47.480
different answers. And one answer is, be prepared. All the faithful who listen to these videos and to
00:27:54.040
listen to all of that, be prepared yourself. It might be that the coronavirus not at all hits you and
00:28:00.280
you stay healthy all the time and all along and then everything is wonderful. But just be prepared.
00:28:05.000
Try to find a priest who would be there for you when something happens. Even if the coronavirus
00:28:10.520
session is over, it's always good to have a priest in nowadays times where you don't know if you get
00:28:15.800
a priest, if you come in a difficult situation. To have a priest who knows you, who would be ready
00:28:24.280
to come to you and give you the last sacraments or the Holy Communion and everything and the confession.
00:28:30.360
This is very important. And to help those priests, for example, it's very easy. For the last
00:28:35.880
unction, you only need, I think, a cross and two candles who are being lit. So something like this
00:28:43.640
can be prepared by every Catholic household so that the priests have it a little bit more easy.
00:28:48.440
And if we really come to the underground church state, which in parts of Europe we are already,
00:28:53.720
I know many different priests who celebrate underground masses. And only if you know them and
00:28:58.120
you know the correct time, you can go there and then it's locked up behind you.
00:29:02.600
I know that from many different cities in Europe. And if we really have to continue in those times
00:29:08.120
for a little bit longer, then consider trying to get a missile for your home and at least also two
00:29:18.040
candlesticks. And you can print out the cannon tables. You can print them out from the internet.
00:29:23.080
So that if a priest will maybe have the possibility to celebrate the mass at your place, if you have
00:29:29.560
the place for it. And if you have a big house, then that he does not have to bring everything
00:29:34.040
with him. It's way easier for him and way easier and way better for them. So this is something many
00:29:39.720
priests ask me to say in videos so that the people are a little bit more prepared.
00:29:45.800
Very good. Very good. Let's talk also about what's going on on a global scale. I know many
00:29:51.880
people think of you, first of all, as the person who took the Pachamama idols from the church,
00:29:56.040
of course, and now as someone who has experienced the coronavirus and recovered from it. But you've
00:30:00.920
done a lot of research about globalism, about the push for a one world order. And this is coming on
00:30:07.560
like it never has been before. All sorts of possibilities. They've been talking about it
00:30:13.000
in public newspapers. The former prime minister of England has even mentioned the need for a one
00:30:19.880
world order right now. The Guardian brought a big article about that. And you can and you can also
00:30:25.720
read, for example, as I give you a few examples, which I watched and which I experienced now on my
00:30:32.280
own on my own a little bit. For example, in Austria and Germany and other countries, as I heard too,
00:30:39.800
they now officially surveil our... Do you say that? Surveillance?
00:30:46.280
Yes, a surveillance. Our cell phones, officially. They officially track our cell phones. Of course,
00:30:51.640
they say, oh, only anonymous data. But then on the same thing, they say, well, we want to know how
00:30:57.880
the coronavirus spreads. So it cannot be that anonymous, because they at least have to connect
00:31:02.440
the cell phone to someone who has the coronavirus. So you see that this starts. Then we have
00:31:08.520
many different people calling for now a global answer to this global problem. We always know
00:31:16.840
that. But I now tell you something. On the same level, we see that all the globalism is one of the
00:31:25.560
main reasons why so many countries in Europe, for example, and in other parts of the world, I bet it is
00:31:31.000
the same, have the problems right now with the virus. Because I give you an example. It is now very
00:31:37.400
difficult and restricted to travel past the borders, which we normally do not have in Europe anymore.
00:31:43.640
And I'm very happy that I see that it is still possible to keep up our borders. It's actually
00:31:49.160
a wonderful example of what we always say that, of course, it's possible to secure the borders a
00:31:54.600
little bit. We see that it is very difficult to get the equipment the hospital needs. The hospitals
00:32:02.280
need masks. They need different plastic suits and everything. They need eye protection. They
00:32:10.520
need medication and so on. And they need air support for the people who die, really, and who are about
00:32:17.400
to die. And they cannot get it out of one reason. Nothing of all these products is produced in Europe
00:32:25.080
anymore. Nothing is produced of this, maybe a few companies, but only a little. Nothing is produced
00:32:30.760
in Austria, in Germany, in Italy, in France. Nowhere. So the people always have to import that from one
00:32:36.760
country most of the time, which is called China, where the virus is coming from. And it is a country,
00:32:44.520
first of all, I do not trust at all, out of many reasons. It's a communistic regime. We can never
00:32:49.800
forget that. I do not trust their corona numbers. I do not trust their corona explanations, but
00:32:55.800
that's another topic. But we just have to see that the globalism is the problem, while many
00:33:00.440
countries have these terrible numbers right now. The Italians, for example, cannot get any air
00:33:06.680
support, as now they get it from different countries and some help, and it's very difficult,
00:33:10.920
but still many people die. In France, next to Strasbourg, a former German city of Strasbourg,
00:33:17.080
they still, you just have to imagine, they officially say that they do not put people
00:33:21.720
older than 80 or 70, I think they all raise it, on air support. On ventilators, yeah.
00:33:28.280
So just imagine this. This is happening because all those countries, because of globalism,
00:33:34.200
pushed out many main things which should normally stay in the hand of one country. You know,
00:33:43.800
a country should always be able to keep up their own health system, their own military,
00:33:48.920
their own streets, and their own food, and a few other things too, all electricity and so on comes.
00:33:54.680
But this is not the case anymore in many countries, and now you see it. So I really can only tell the
00:34:00.680
people, whoever asks now for the global answer, you have to give them a very hard no. The global answer is
00:34:07.960
the reason why many countries have the problem right now. And so what we need is a sovereign
00:34:13.640
answer, a sovereign state. A sovereign state could solve it. Italy could easily, for example,
00:34:22.360
manage their money problems if they would not be part of the Euro system. They are part of the
00:34:26.760
Euro system, so that's the reason Italy is always poor and doesn't have any public money left. And
00:34:31.720
because of that, it's very difficult for them to get all the expensive things right now. And
00:34:37.400
second of all, they do not have any production in their own country, which I stressed out enough,
00:34:41.080
but I really want to push that point. So we see there would be an answer, and this answer is not
00:34:46.440
possible right now within one or two months, but it is possible within the next few years. And this
00:34:52.200
next few years have to be used to do that. Fight globalism, fight the United Nations wherever you can
00:34:58.280
right now, and fight the European Union wherever you can, because the European Union right now does
00:35:02.920
nothing to help the states. Nothing. Just sits around and adds more immigrants to our country. They
00:35:08.920
right now said that they accept and now start the talks with Albania and Northern Macedonia. So
00:35:17.560
Macedonia, we should not stay with this leftist new word, but Macedonia and Albania should now be members
00:35:24.520
of the European Union. We all know that those are entering states for Muslims. And we all know that
00:35:30.840
in Europe, all the people who are informed know that. But the problem is the newspapers do not write
00:35:35.000
about it. And this is what the European Union does if the people do not watch because of Corona and they
00:35:40.120
are all locked down at home. And in Germany, they are not allowed to leave their homes if their group is
00:35:47.240
bigger than two people, which is, of course, very difficult if you have a big family, because the police
00:35:52.280
can in many countries, the police really stops the people asking what they do. And it is not possible
00:35:58.760
for a family with many children who live in a city to stay at home for weeks. It's just not possible.
00:36:04.680
Children need nature and need outside. And so it is really terrible what we see. And I have to say,
00:36:11.640
even though he's also a person I do not fully trust. But Edward Snowden gave a very good article
00:36:19.560
about it, actually. And he told, I just look up to which newspaper. There is a big translation of
00:36:27.320
that in an Austrian newspaper. And and he says that it will, of course, continue afterwards.
00:36:36.040
I just it was an interview during the Copenhagen International Film Festival.
00:36:41.080
Okay. And and he says, let's see what keeps the state from letting all the measurements being put
00:36:50.520
up after the crisis, because who says that the crisis ends? It's actually very interesting,
00:36:56.120
because what they're talking about, which has been proposed in England, as well as even in Hungary,
00:37:01.240
have been these tracking devices or apps for your phone that will track you. The very strange thing is
00:37:07.320
that they're saying that it's not only going to track you, but it's going to be able to tell you
00:37:11.560
if you've come into contact with someone who's had coronavirus and therefore tell you to self-isolate
00:37:16.600
for two weeks. This is a problem, though, because, of course, if they can do that, then they can tell
00:37:22.280
you to self-isolate for two weeks for no reason, because they're not telling you who has the coronavirus,
00:37:28.600
because that would be a violation of privacy. So they're just telling you, you've been in contact
00:37:32.760
with somebody, you need to self-isolate for two weeks. So this is very, very alarming, because
00:37:38.200
there's no, there doesn't have to be a rhyme or reason. They could tell people randomly, oh,
00:37:42.600
you've been exposed, you need to self-isolate, and you won't know anything about it other than to know
00:37:46.840
you've received this on your phone and you must obey. And you can be tracked via your phone to say if
00:37:53.480
you are violating the ban or not, which which could even come, as we've talked about at the beginning
00:37:59.000
of the program, with criminal penalty, which might land you in jail for even years.
00:38:05.560
Yes. So, for example, I just look it up if I find the quote, because that's always easier to people,
00:38:11.320
because I found out that many people now in this coronavirus do not believe anything anymore of
00:38:17.560
anyone. Okay, I do not find it, but I will find it. There is a famous Austrian so-called conservative
00:38:23.880
Catholic politician, she's a lady, and for example, even though many of her positions are very good
00:38:31.560
and very Catholic, she also asked for this tracking device. She said, well, I think it's good if we all
00:38:36.920
have an app. And of course, and then she says, and of course, the app should be should be voluntary
00:38:44.760
and so on. But the people who should use the app should get a bonus or whatever or something. So we,
00:38:52.440
of course, at the beginning, they would all tell us, yeah, it's only voluntary, voluntarily. And it's
00:38:58.280
just, you know, it's just for the good of the sake of the people and so on. And then, of course,
00:39:02.520
who tells us that this is not going to stop? What we have to see is what the people have to understand
00:39:08.200
out there who maybe watch this video right now. And what they have to understand, this all sounds
00:39:13.400
like a conspiracy theory, because years ago, things like this were a conspiracy theory, but
00:39:21.560
because they did not happen. But now they start to happen. So it's not a conspiracy theory anymore.
00:39:27.640
It's not a conspiracy theory. If many people ask for state tracking of your and state watching your
00:39:35.160
phone and the state are asking you to whatever to do whatever, I give you many different examples.
00:39:41.240
For example, I know it is a huge fight. And I do not want to open that bottle, as we say in Austria,
00:39:49.320
too much right now. But I know that the whole question of whether you should get vaccinated or not
00:39:55.560
is a big fight. And I know there are many people out there who say vaccinations are very important and
00:40:01.480
you should get vaccinated and others who say, well, I know that many vaccinations bring out
00:40:06.280
allergies and other problems. And I know both positions. I even have medical doctors and professors
00:40:14.600
I talk to about both positions and I don't want to give an opinion on it now. But what I want to tell
00:40:21.000
you is if the state comes and, for example, tells you, well, against the coronavirus, the only thing which
00:40:25.720
works is now this vaccination. So you have to get it. This is something which is against your personal
00:40:30.920
right because you the state cannot force you to get something put, you know, put into your body
00:40:38.360
against your will. This is something this is a principle of sovereignty of the people which is
00:40:44.680
not be as which the state is not able to undermine. So as soon as you see things like this, you know,
00:40:50.760
it is too much. As soon as they start tracking your phone, as soon as they start asking for apps which
00:40:56.520
only help the common good, you know that this is all no good. Whatever takes away your freedom on
00:41:03.000
this level is too much. It is okay that the states forbids certain things because of an emergency
00:41:09.640
situation. In war times, in in pandemic times, etc. It is a very old state right that the state,
00:41:17.880
for example, tells you, okay, please, if this alarm symbol, if this alarm signal comes, you all have
00:41:23.240
to hide at home, like in case of a war, or like right now, we have a pandemic. So this and this
00:41:29.400
is forbidden. Please do not gather in bigger crowds on the streets. So this is actually allowed that the
00:41:34.200
state does it. If we don't like it, we cannot really change it because that's really an old and
00:41:39.720
old state. Right. And I think it's actually it's normally a good one, even though the states are right
00:41:45.160
now very corrupted. And so we all do not trust them anymore. But this is really an old thing.
00:41:50.280
But the state has not the right to go into your personal area. He has not the right to put something
00:41:56.360
into your body is not the right to track your phone. He has not the right to prohibit you from
00:42:01.640
living your personal religion, religious life, especially if you're a Christian, because all our
00:42:07.160
countries are officially former Christian countries, or like your country, John Henry, you're you're,
00:42:13.640
I think, live in a in a in a strange commonwealth with a state and the state, the head of your state
00:42:21.480
is the head of a Christian church, even though we as Catholics would, of course, call this Christian
00:42:26.840
church a heretic and Protestant falling away church. But still, it's Christian. So in my case,
00:42:35.400
that's not the case. In my case in Canada, it's not so. But in well, if you can, we don't quite
00:42:40.360
consider ourselves still the queen head of Canada. But that's fine.
00:42:43.640
Is the queen not officially head of Canada or not?
00:42:47.400
Not not in most people's take on it. We're the prime minister is the head of Canada. But
00:42:53.240
we do still say she's the queen. But but definitely. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
00:43:00.040
Um, we we do have a very strange situation, but a situation, too, that actually has a lot of
00:43:07.720
positive things going on. So for instance, we have, you know, school is out. So actually,
00:43:14.840
most children aren't getting indoctrinated right now into sex education, all sorts of harmful things
00:43:21.400
that happens regularly in school. We aren't getting a lot of the the filthy films out. I know
00:43:27.960
people are watching on the internet now, and so on and so forth. But the film industry is going down
00:43:33.240
the tubes, the the, you know, there's all sorts of things in various states. The abortions are stopped
00:43:40.920
because it's non essential service. However, on the other side, the the characters of the revolution
00:43:49.720
that keep pushing the Antichrist agenda, you have this pushback. So you you now have many states in the
00:43:56.680
United States and all of Canada and probably lots of Europe that has declared abortion an essential
00:44:02.120
service. And in England, you will have seen that they increased abortion, making it available in
00:44:07.480
homes. So they're pushing on this using this time as a, you know, advantage advantageous for the side
00:44:18.200
of those against the faith against life and against family. Yes, it's terrible. It's in Germany,
00:44:23.960
for example, the pro-abortionists right now really push for the same as in England. I really think
00:44:31.240
it's terrible. Yeah, well, it's a strange situation. For example, another good thing is that all the
00:44:35.400
people who normally go to Sunday mass without being faithful Catholics and never go to confession,
00:44:40.680
but still are receiving communion every Sunday, cannot do it right now, which is very good.
00:44:45.800
And then we do not have the economy of Francesco meeting, which should have taken place last month
00:44:51.320
in March. We do not have the global conflict on education meeting in May, as you know, in Rome,
00:44:59.160
this is all postponed. So this is also very good. The abortion agenda is, I think, one of the most ugly
00:45:05.000
topics, because right now we have the strange situation that when the coronavirus
00:45:09.640
suddenly, like a lightning came and closed everything down, we had other countries, like I think it was
00:45:20.440
Germany, the last one, Germany just declared euthanasia is okay, for example. This is something,
00:45:26.920
so we see that the entire life, and we cannot call them any different than the murderer,
00:45:35.240
the bro-murder troop, the bro-killing baby troop, we really cannot call this any different,
00:45:40.440
is now being opened to the bro-killing elderly people and sick people too. So this is really
00:45:49.240
a heavy thing. And then we see how they right now do not take care of the elderly who have corona in
00:45:57.160
many parts of Europe anymore. And you see how sick and destroyed our society is already. So what do we
00:46:03.640
have to say? Yes, there are many positive parts of the crisis too. There are the people who are now
00:46:09.160
at home with their families. There are older families who might have big problems right now
00:46:13.880
taking care of their children, but who have to find a solution living with their children,
00:46:18.360
which is also good for many families. There are many married couples who now stay longer together than
00:46:24.280
they normally ever do in their whole life. This is wonderful. But on the other hand, we cannot forget
00:46:29.880
the enemies fighting to and using this crisis. How can we prevent them from using it? By being very,
00:46:35.880
very, very loud about this. We really have to be very loud. Every Catholic has to understand that
00:46:41.640
everything going on in this direction is really, it is like apocalyptic even. It's, you know,
00:46:50.440
people killing other people is something we know from wars. And, and if, if you normally tell a little
00:46:59.000
boy, well, and then he killed the other one, you normally tell him that together with a story about
00:47:05.400
a knight or about a bad man. And then afterwards, the bad man is kind of has to suffer because he did a
00:47:14.360
bad thing and, and gets, um, again, goes to prison or whatever. So killing is something if you talk
00:47:20.440
with little children about it, it's really connected to war and to the bad things. And suddenly killing
00:47:26.600
through abortion got in the mind of all the people who do not care about their faith, especially them.
00:47:33.000
But unfortunately, also many so-called Catholics and so-called Christians, the ones who care about
00:47:38.760
the faith, as we know from statistics, are more than 99.9% against abortion. At least I think
00:47:45.320
that's the statistic I have in my head right now. Um, I know. So we see that this started,
00:47:51.320
now the euthanasia comes, now the sickness comes. And what do we see? The lack of the Catholic
00:47:57.560
system, lack of the Christian hospital system. You do not have Christian Catholic hospitals anymore.
00:48:02.680
You don't have the nuns and monks taking care of the sick. You have people who are going,
00:48:06.520
who are being paid for it. And if you're paid as a doctor, then the state and all the media only
00:48:12.920
ask you how many lives did you save. And then, of course, you start calculating and you start
00:48:18.440
calculating and saying, well, if I put this 80 year old man, grandfather of many, I don't know,
00:48:23.640
so many, so and so many children, if I put him on air support, he will probably not survive. But I have
00:48:30.440
this 35 year old lady. And if I put her on air support, she will definitely survive. So I should,
00:48:36.120
I just put her on air support, even though the older man was here since 10, 10 days, and the
00:48:40.760
lady is here since today, then you see the differences, you know, and, and this, it really
00:48:46.840
starts here. It's, it's, you show that the people start counting and start calculating. And this is
00:48:53.080
the difference between the monks and the nuns of, uh, we have, you know, I told you the numbers
00:48:58.520
before of the medieval times and of the, even of the 17th centuries of the Baroque times,
00:49:03.160
who really were there for the sick. They really took care of them. We know from many saints like,
00:49:08.280
um, St. Caille Baromeos, St. Charles Baromeos. He's a wonderful saint. I really love him. And he
00:49:14.520
took care of the black death. Um, um, as well, the people who are sick with black death himself,
00:49:19.800
he was already Bishop. He gave the last unction. He gave them the Holy Sacrament and so on. He was there
00:49:26.600
for the people. He was there for the people. So that's the difference. And we really have to pray
00:49:31.240
for this. And this is something where if we suffer, sacrifice your suffering for that cause,
00:49:37.400
for that pro-life cause against killing the babies, against killing the elderly and the sick,
00:49:42.920
against this whole ugly murder and murdering from people in this times of crisis, this is really
00:49:51.800
sick. And this should of course be forbidden immediately. And unfortunately that's not
00:49:56.920
possible because we do not have any real good Christian state left anymore. Not even in Hungary.
00:50:03.400
And you know that I really like Hungary and that I really appreciate what they do for the family and
00:50:07.560
so on. Not even them, not even them, uh, uh, right now doing anything against abortion.
00:50:13.480
So, and they unfortunately even made a push for, for, um, um, um, how do you call it? Artificial
00:50:21.320
children. How do you call them? Oh yes. Artificial, uh, IVF in vitro fertilization. Yes. In vitro fertilization.
00:50:28.040
Yes. They even made a push for this, um, with the last month. So you see every, every state,
00:50:33.640
unfortunately, even the ones we consider the better ones are not doing a good job on that.
00:50:38.440
And I think it's not at all a big, a big, uh, coincidence that in this ugly times, this
00:50:44.600
strange virus comes and closes down everything. Yeah, absolutely. As, as we close, tell me what is,
00:50:53.560
in your opinion, the best thing Catholics, Christians, and people of, uh, who are pro-life and pro-family
00:51:00.520
can do right now in the midst of this crisis while deprived of so much that they're used to?
00:51:06.440
Okay. Well, this is, this, it very much depends on what your situation is right now. As we know,
00:51:12.520
many parents are at home with all their children's, uh, uh, all around the clock. So this is maybe those
00:51:18.280
parents have a very difficult situation. We're focusing on anything outside of their own home right
00:51:22.680
now. And we do not want to judge them in, uh, uh, quite the contrary. We want to encourage them
00:51:29.320
to really try to pray with the children every day, try to start the day with the children with a morning
00:51:34.200
prayer and try to end today with an evening prayer, try to pray the Angelus with them and maybe even
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introduce them if they are already old enough to bring a whole rosary with, with you every day.
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This is difficult, but these are the times, um, and the places where we can manage to do so.
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So prepare them for the Holy Week and for Easter. So first of all, then, um, for all the people who
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have a little bit more time, um, try to get yourself informed what's happening in your own state and in
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your own country. If you see wherever, but if you see a push for pro abortion, pro euthanasia,
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or all the other ugly cases, if you see a push for more globalism, et cetera, try to make your voice
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being heard. So for example, we all, most of us, um, I think 99.9% live in something we call democracy,
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even though, um, most of them do not really work the way a democracy should work. You normally have
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a politician who is in charge for your particularly part of the country. I don't know how you call them
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in Canada, but, um, it is what, for example, in, in, in, in, in, in England, you have two different
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counties and in those different counties, you normally have a representative of the county.
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And in Austria, we have to say, we do not have counties, of course, because we are not a monarchy
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anymore, but we have also political districts and they have a direct representative. And this
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representative is your, is your, uh, representative in the parliament. And even though if he's from
00:53:02.600
an opposite party, those people need your votes. If he's from an opposite party, he will not get
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your vote. If he's from a socialist or green party, he will not get your vote vote, but, but that does
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not matter. He does not know it, first of all. And second of all, it does not matter with what you
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have to do. You have to call them if they have a number in the internet. If not, they have an email
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address. And normally the representative have a direct email address, which goes, let's say,
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at least to their personal secretary. And in those email emails, you have to focus on this point,
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wherever they pop up. This really, first of all, it annoys them. And if it does not annoy them,
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it makes them, it makes them interested because if more than three or more than 10 people write,
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you do not believe it, but that's already a huge amount. It sounds strange because the countries are
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huge and millions of people are living there. But you cannot imagine there are not so many people
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who write a direct email or call their representative politician. So if you do that,
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for example, it's a very good idea. It's very easy to do and it's very easy to manage.
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Share your information you have. If you have very good and concrete data and you really know that this
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data is true and it's funded on scientific research, share them and share it with your friends
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so that they have the possibility to do that too. Speak out loud. Still, please, if you have any money
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left, I know the Corona situation is very difficult, give it out to good Catholic things, you know,
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to good Catholic movements. Give it out to your most famous Catholic online newspaper, for example,
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or support the local life organization or whatever. This is a time where we really have to stay together.
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We have to show the world, this is not the goal, but it's a nice, let's say, second goal. We can now
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show the world that the Catholic communities are not going to break through this crisis. If all the
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worldly and all the people who are focused on how they come along on the world and how they can save
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their own body, if all their societies break down right now, our Catholic body never breaks down
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because it is the body of Christ and Christ will never leave us. So show the people, try to really,
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really, really keep up the Catholic life as strong as possible. This is the biggest thing you can do in
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this crisis. So prayer, support and being politically active as far as possible. If there are petitions,
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of course, sign the petitions and so on. I know many of you out there, we all used to sign every week
00:55:37.080
another petition every since years. But those petitions are more important than you think, because
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even if only one of 10 of them or one of hundreds of them has any success, it's enough. Every success is
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good. And right now, what are the most important petitions? There is one petition against, I think,
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Pornhub, this ugly pornography site. I think it is against them and for them to close down because
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they use this crisis to do ugly things. And there was an interview, I think, going on where they,
00:56:09.720
maybe I mistake it right now with another one of those pages, but they even said that, yes,
00:56:15.080
it can happen that children are part of the videos. But that's, you know, we upload millions of videos,
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no one cares. So right now, sign this petition and help to spread awareness of globalism and that
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globalism is a big part of the problem we have right now and not part of the solution. This is
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what you can do. It's a big amount of work. It's not as easy as it looks like. And please, right now,
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stay Catholic as far as possible. Do not get crazy. Do not suddenly start trusting any
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strange private appearances and so on, even if they sound wonderful. And many of them,
00:56:54.520
maybe they are right and maybe the Vatican will say, yeah, well, that's a good appearance in the
00:57:00.680
future. But right now, please stay Catholic. Use the old books. Use the old prayers. There are wonderful
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old prayers against the Black Death. You can find them in the old books. If you have a friend who has an
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old English prayer book, just copy them out of them and ask them to copy it and pray them together
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with your family. So there are so many possibilities. And please prepare for the Holy Week. Prepare for
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Palm Sunday. Prepare yourself also for Easter. Prepare also for the Easter celebration, even if we
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cannot go to church. I know many of you won't go to church on Easter because they do not have the
00:57:36.280
possibility. Please do the preparations for it. The preparations are so important because our Lord
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earns these celebrations because he gave everything for us his whole life. He suffered so much. And then
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he rose from the death. And this is the reason why you can go to heaven nowadays. So please
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high and as, you know, wonderful as you can with your whole family and get closer together.
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That's everything I can say. I know I talked very much today, but I think it's a very important issue.
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Excellent. Alexander Chuguel, thank you so very much for being with us. May God bless you.
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I can tell you. When I was a little bit, a little bit more well in the hospital, I was still not very
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fit. But I immediately start reading live set news again. Praise God. Well, God bless you, my friend.
00:58:37.400
Thank you. And God bless all of you. We'll see you next time.
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