The John-Henry Westen Show - Bishop Schneider： Govt’s are using COVID-19 as pretext to ‘persecute’ Church

00:00:00.300 Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we're speaking with one

00:00:04.160 of the holiest, most courageous, and outspoken bishops in the world.

00:00:07.860 His name is Athanasius Schneider.

00:00:10.160 He is the Auxiliary Bishop of Astana in Kazakhstan, and we'll be speaking to him about the coronavirus,

00:00:16.820 the deprivation of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass for the faithful, whether priests should

00:00:20.640 obey their bishops' orders to deny the sacraments to the faithful, and whether Bishop Schneider

00:00:25.420 sees this pandemic as a chastisement from God connected to the warnings of Our Lady of Fatima

00:00:30.240 in 1917.

00:00:31.720 You're going to want to stay tuned.

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00:01:12.240 This time we'll begin with a short prayer from Bishop Schneider.

00:01:15.200 Your Excellency, if you would please.

00:01:16.400 In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti, Amen.

00:01:21.740 Amen.

00:01:22.740 Amen.

00:01:23.740 Pater noster qui es in celis sanctificetur nomen tuum, adveniat regnum tuum fiat voluntas

00:01:32.180 tua, sicut in cielo et in terra, panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis odie, et dimite nobis

00:01:40.620 debita nostra, sicut et nos dimitimus debitoribus nostris, et ne nos inducas in tentationem, set libera

00:01:50.860 nos amalo, Amen.

00:01:53.180 Ave Maria, gratia plena Dominus Tecum, benedicta tui mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris

00:02:01.200 tui Iesus, sancta Maria Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostre,

00:02:09.100 Amen.

00:02:09.840 Gloria Patri, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancto, sicut erat in principi, et nunc et semper, et in

00:02:16.120 saecula saeculorum, Amen.

00:02:18.180 In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti, Amen.

00:02:22.740 Amen.

00:02:23.420 Thank you, Bishop Schneider.

00:02:25.180 Let me first say thank you on behalf of the many, many Catholics around the world who

00:02:30.040 are hungry for spiritual leadership.

00:02:32.480 And although you were an auxiliary bishop in Estaza, Kazakhstan, they have in you the

00:02:38.440 great gift of spiritual leadership from afar.

00:02:41.220 Your recent book, Christi Vincit, where you were interviewed by former LifeSite Correspondent

00:02:46.280 Diane Montagna, is outstanding, and people have marveled at it.

00:02:50.900 We will talk about that too, but I wanted to first get your impression of what is happening

00:02:55.500 right now with the coronavirus crisis, which has left Catholics around the world stunned,

00:03:00.120 having been deprived of the holy sacrifice of the mass, even throughout Easter.

00:03:04.940 The situation with the coronavirus, it is in the history, at such an extent, because it

00:03:18.320 was for the first time since the persecution of the Christians in the first centuries in the

00:03:25.360 Roman pagan empire, that almost all over the world, the public worship was stopped.

00:03:37.160 And especially on Easter, it is very significant.

00:03:42.120 And to my opinion, it has also a deep spiritual meaning.

00:03:48.240 This is almost, so when we observe from the side, this phenomenon, and this could be an appeal

00:03:59.220 of God, an intervention.

00:04:01.040 To my opinion, it is an intervention, a divine intervention, not only for the world to awaken the

00:04:11.860 people, but also for the church.

00:04:16.240 For me, it is first for the church to awaken, to be more serious in these moments when we are

00:04:27.020 deprived almost all Catholics all over the world of holy mass and the sacraments.

00:04:34.700 It is a divine appeal to the priests, to the bishops, to the Pope to reflect, to repent, to ask

00:04:46.720 forgiveness of God for all sins which were committed in the last decades inside the church.

00:04:57.020 But especially those sins which were committed in connection with the sacraments, and especially

00:05:06.520 the holy mass, the Eucharist, the holy communion.

00:05:12.040 And now almost all are deprived from holy communion.

00:05:15.980 And so maybe God says, you have outraged me.

00:05:22.140 You have trampled me by feet 50 years in the churches.

00:05:28.500 And now you have, God had taken away this for a moment, of course.

00:05:35.680 And this is, sometimes God did this in the history of salvation to admonish his people, his children.

00:05:49.320 And so it is a judgment of God, a punishment, but a punishment of a loving father who wants to awaken

00:06:00.100 his children who wants to, that their children come closer to him through these extraordinary signs and to repent and also to have a deeper esteem of the sacraments, especially of the holy mass.

00:06:20.280 This is, for me, a first observation of all this sad situation caused by the so-called coronavirus epidemic.

00:06:37.420 This is something of a difficult concept, I'd say, because if it is a chastisement, a warning

00:06:44.980 from the Lord, as you said, a loving warning, then if there is no repentance, which there

00:06:51.020 doesn't really seem to be at this point, particularly in the areas that you mentioned regarding the

00:06:55.360 church, because of the mistreatment of our Lord and the Holy Eucharist, the reception of the Holy Communion in the hand, which leads to

00:07:02.980 the trampling upon Jesus in the various particles left over on people's hands, and therefore brushed onto the floor, as you were

00:07:09.380 mentioning.

00:07:10.160 So, if it is a chastisement, or the loving warning from the Lord, will it end if there's no repentance?

00:07:17.140 And it surely doesn't seem right now to repentance is happening.

00:07:22.740 Yes, I'm agreeing with you, because even our Lord speaks in the gospel to his people, saying to them that you had not recognized the visitation of God.

00:07:47.440 When he spoke to Jerusalem, and he was weeping about Jerusalem, and saying, you will be destroyed by the enemies, because you have not recognized the signs which God gave you.

00:08:03.660 This, for me, is a free translation of what our Lord said, but this is the meaning.

00:08:08.560 And so, this is now the chance for the church, for the Pope, for the bishops, for the faithful, to make acts of repentance, of expiation, reparation, public reparation for all the sins, firstly committed against our Lord in the most blessed sacrament.

00:08:36.420 And, and, and then against the commandments, I would say the first commandment, you have, you shall not have other gods.

00:08:47.940 So, all these sins which were committed in the church against the first commandment, for example, recently also we have known last year's, last year, and, and so they have to ask the bishops.

00:09:06.420 The priest, we can, we can start with acts of reparation, why not individually, then in a family, and hopefully when this lockdown will be ended, then also publicly in the churches and make processions.

00:09:25.200 But I think we have to ask the Holy Father to pray that God may illuminate him, that he himself will give an example to make acts of reparation together with the cardinals publicly, first for the sins and for the mistreatment outrages against our Lord in the Eucharist, which were committed inside the church.

00:09:51.260 And as a repeat, and then against other sins, but also the Pope and the bishops and the priests have to make also public acts of reparation for the extreme crime, extremely great crimes of the humanity of our age,

00:10:17.260 which is the most horrible crime, which is the most horrible crime, the abortion, the killing of innocent children in the womb of their mothers. 0.93

00:10:28.300 These we have to do also our reparation, public, and, and then also the, the sins against the Sixth Commandment, specifically the sins against holy matrimony, marriage.

00:10:49.600 These are only, for example, these are only, for example, concrete acts we have to do this.

00:10:56.300 Absolutely. One of the things that's, that's most shocking or upsetting, if you will, for Catholics, is that the Pope has indeed spoken about coronavirus, but he spoke of it not as a chastisement from God, but as a response of the earth, he said.

00:11:12.860 He's in fact said something like this now four times, most recently on Earth Day, April 22nd, he spoke of the virus as Earth's response for our having failed to look after the environment, a kind of a revenge or punishment of the earth for failing to address climate change, is what he said at another time.

00:11:31.900 Well, the Pope, when he spoke of the Pope, he did not spoke of this ex cathedra, as an infallible judgment, so, and this is concerning the climate and the earth, these are temporal realities.

00:11:54.200 So, in these issues, the Pope can commit errors, and this is legitimate, we can say, with respect to the Most Holy Father, we think this is our error, and present the arguments most deeper.

00:12:14.480 Therefore, we have to look at all the events, specifically, very important and grievous events in the history, as today and now we are experiencing and living through, always also in a supernatural view.

00:12:37.240 And so, the Pope has to have, firstly, a supernatural view, as our Lord Jesus Christ always did, a supernatural view, the apostles, the great saints, the prophets, so, in this way.

00:12:52.880 But, at least, we have one thing common, at least, the Pope speaks of punishment, chastisement, but in another way, but from the earth, maybe, but I'm not agreeing with this, but the true sign of warning, this is the meaning of chastisement and punishment from God,

00:13:20.880 this is a warning of the loving Father, this is, should be for a person who sees and looks at the events from a supernatural point of view, this should be very clear and evident.

00:13:40.440 Well, one of the great hardships is that people are deprived of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and what has been happening all over the world is that priests have been forbidden by their bishops, even to offer private celebration of the Mass for their parishioners.

00:13:58.860 So, there's all sorts of ways to do it safely, according to the regulations, similar to those used in grocery stores.

00:14:05.760 People six feet apart, perhaps wearing a mask, they could easily be done in churches, but it's being forbidden in most places.

00:14:14.540 Now, you've said on a previous interview that such demands from bishops are not legitimate, and that priests can ignore them.

00:14:22.060 Please explain that.

00:14:22.860 Yes, this is an obvious abuse of authority, abuse of his powers.

00:14:34.120 Never did God give to a bishop the authority, the power, to forbid celebrating Mass.

00:14:42.780 Of course, observing all due health safety measures, protection, this is, of course, obvious, but he cannot just prohibit celebration of Mass.

00:15:01.840 This is an abuse of power.

00:15:05.300 And in the times of the plague and the epidemic in the Middle Ages, and even in the 16th century, St. Charles Borromeo in Milan, he obliged the priests to celebrate Mass and to ask God, through the celebration of Mass, forgiveness for the sins which were committed to the Mass.

00:15:35.300 Because the plague, St. Charles, because the plague, St. Charles considered as a chastisement, as a warning of God.

00:15:42.100 And so he asked the priests to celebrate the Mass.

00:15:45.800 Yes, and even so, he closed for a time, the big churches to protect people from the contagion of the plague, which was a very, more dangerous than the coronavirus, because in the plague, the mortality rate was until 90%, sometimes.

00:16:10.800 This is, this is, this is no comparison with coronavirus, I mean, but even so, St. Charles Borromeo, Cardinal Borromeo, he ordered that the priests should celebrate Holy Masses in public squares, public places, on the streets, on the corner of the streets, to multiply Masses,

00:16:34.800 so that people could assist from their windows, open windows from the doors, and so, this was, even so, in those times, the plague, it was more dangerous and more contagious than our coronavirus.

00:16:53.240 So, this is not comparison.

00:16:55.240 And therefore, this priest, when the bishop forbids them even to celebrate private Mass and to give sacraments to dying persons and to sick persons, in these cases, the priest has not to obey the bishop, because we have to obey first God.

00:17:16.240 And in this case, this bishop is committing a grievous sin of abuse of his powers.

00:17:26.240 So, in this case, we have many priests wondering what they can do now.

00:17:35.040 Their bishops are permitting them to celebrate private Masses, but only themselves, without any of the faithful at all.

00:17:42.260 And not only that, but also not to go to the homes of parishioners to offer private Masses there, nor even, in most cases, to have outdoor Masses with the public safe distances apart.

00:17:55.860 And so, I want to be clear that we're talking about orders from bishops like that.

00:18:05.140 Can they be disregarded by a priest?

00:18:07.860 Well, it depends on the places and on the laws of the government, of the civil authorities.

00:18:16.220 If the civil authorities permit, I don't know, in different countries, we have to check this, but if there is...

00:18:27.720 Most of them are permitted to have grocery stores open, liquor stores open.

00:18:33.060 If there is, for example, not forbidden that you can visit a family, why not to celebrate their Mass, when it is not forbidden by the government?

00:18:48.100 So, the bishops should, on the contrary, be happy that priests are, in some way, creative and have a zeal for the faithful and try to find a creative solution in some way still not contradicting and not infringing the laws of the state.

00:19:15.260 This is one of the areas that has become very difficult, because laws in many places have actually followed that the bishops have done or not done, what the bishops have done or not done.

00:19:27.920 Because you have grocery, beer, and liquor stores open because they are deemed essential services.

00:19:34.420 Yet it appears that the bishops have not insisted with the government that the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is an essential service.

00:19:40.980 So, people are allowed to go to a grocery store while not being allowed to go to Mass, even though, particularly at daily Masses, there would often be many fewer people in the Mass than at a grocery store.

00:19:54.620 Yes, in this case, I think this was, in some cases, a grievous omission on the part of some bishops, because the bishops and the bishops' conferences and even the Holy See should insist in the governments to give to the churches at least the same rights and chances.

00:20:23.620 As they give to the stores, as they give to the stores where people can buy food.

00:20:32.600 So, the same prescriptions, if people can go to the stores and to buy something, so the same way they can go to the church, observing the same health protection measures.

00:20:49.760 And so, this should have been the method of the bishops and the Holy See to insist upon them.

00:21:02.280 Otherwise, if the government denies the same rights as they give to the stores, then this is discrimination of the religion, evidently, and a kind of implicit persecution of the church.

00:21:22.340 So, just a couple of days ago, there came an announcement from

00:21:52.320 England that this extreme social distancing will be extended till after Christmas, which would mean a year or more without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

00:22:02.880 It is evident by these measures, this is completely against every reasonableness of proportionality.

00:22:15.120 It is evident, there is no proportionality because the coronavirus epidemic has not so heavy mortality.

00:22:27.800 And with good protection health measures, we can have worship in churches.

00:22:41.680 Now, in Germany and in Austria, next month in May, they will slowly open the churches and give the permission to, in Berlin, for example, from the beginning of May,

00:22:58.040 they will be allowed public worship for a number of 50 persons, for example.

00:23:04.160 In other places, 15 persons, in other places, 15 persons, but at least.

00:23:08.300 So, in this way, the measures which you mentioned for Great Britain, England, it is completely against every proportionality.

00:23:22.620 And it is revealing itself to be a kind of discrimination and persecution of the church.

00:23:33.640 So, it could be that we are going to a time of the catacombs, the church, a kind of underground church.

00:23:44.460 But we have not to be fearful, we have to be courageous, and because the church has a long and good experience to be a catacomb church, to be an underground church.

00:24:02.280 And in those times of catacombs, God gave plenty of spiritual fruits for the renewal of the church.

00:24:12.860 Maybe it is a visitation of the church, an intervention to purify the church through a persecution, to my opinion, that could otherwise, the church could not be purified and awakened in our time.

00:24:29.480 Because the confusion, the heresies, in doctrine, in morals, in liturgy, were so widespread and so deep penetrated in the life of the church.

00:24:46.560 That, to my opinion, that should be a very strong intervention by divine providence to awaken the church.

00:24:57.380 And maybe the persecution, a kind of persecution, a kind of time of catacombs, would be good for the church also.

00:25:10.380 But in any case, it is the Lord who has all in his hands.

00:25:17.540 It is the Lord who will determine the time of the catacombs, the time of the persecution, not the governments. 0.80

00:25:30.740 Christ is the head.

00:25:33.000 Christ is the king.

00:25:34.660 Christ is the ruler of the world.

00:25:37.300 And so we have to be, we have to be, we have to have this trust, this hope, and to live, even in this difficult situation, our Christian faith, with joy.

00:25:55.440 Because Christ is risen.

00:25:58.540 Christ is the winner. 0.85

00:26:02.500 And to strengthen now in this situation, the family, because now we are forced almost all over the world to be at home.

00:26:12.260 So to develop the virtues of the family, to transmit the faith in family, to be domestic churches.

00:26:22.680 You've had a lot of experience with that.

00:26:26.020 And in your book, Christ is Vincent, which, by the way, I encourage everyone to get a copy of, which has, it's had much, much praise from around the world.

00:26:34.500 But there's a specific reason why it's important right now to get the book Christ is Vincent by Bishop Schneider.

00:26:41.260 Because if they get it, and they haven't already done so, you'll be able to read, they'll be able to read that you yourself experienced this deprivation of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

00:26:52.080 Why don't you tell us a little bit about that now, and what you and your family did then?

00:26:56.140 Yes, I did this experience, and therefore I speak with knowledge, with experience, personal.

00:27:07.520 And this gives me the conviction that even this difficult time, which we are now witnessing, will bear fruits for our faith, for our church, for the renewal of the church.

00:27:25.920 So we have to accept this from the hands of God, but at the same time, as did the first Christians, the so-called apologetics, apologists, to be also defenders of the rights of the Christians.

00:27:49.420 We have, in this time, and specifically, it should do the Holy See and the Episcopates, to protest when there is a discrimination, unreasonable, unproportional prohibition of the worship.

00:28:09.380 We have to protest, and to make an apology, to defend the rights of the Christians.

00:28:23.600 Beautiful.

00:28:24.620 One of the things that comes up in your book that some have talked to me about is your admonition to families to be open to life.

00:28:31.000 You actually took issue with terms such as natural family planning and responsible parenthood, because they seem to sort of limit God's control and put men in control.

00:28:41.980 And a question that sort of developed out of that was, how can a couple then, if they have to, space their children?

00:28:47.860 Is it wrong to abstain from sexual activity when you sort of know, through that natural family planning, when those fertile periods are?

00:28:56.460 What's your position on that?

00:28:57.560 It is a very delicate issue.

00:29:04.200 It is that a Christian Catholic couple, they have to, together, in the presence of God, to decide, to ask the strength, the light, to be simply generous.

00:29:26.100 To make this act of trust, to make this act of trust, say, oh Lord, you are the giver of life.

00:29:34.260 You should have the last word, not we. 0.96

00:29:40.000 We are only your collaborators.

00:29:42.180 Of course, we are reasonable collaborators.

00:29:44.160 But even though the beginning of a new life, the beginning of a new potential citizen of heaven, it is so tremendous, really tremendous.

00:29:58.120 Let's let this side guard.

00:29:59.720 I think that it, these did all the generations in the past.

00:30:07.620 I mean, there was not so much known.

00:30:12.620 These methods, even the natural planning methods, it's not so known.

00:30:17.640 The people accepted the children as they came, they trust in God.

00:30:23.680 And even so, and sometimes, the last children, they were a great gift for the church and for humanity.

00:30:35.640 And so, if these parents would apply, consequently, the natural method, maybe these great saints and these geniuses would not be born.

00:30:57.200 Maybe.

00:30:57.600 And so, it is a very delicate matter.

00:31:01.860 So, I think the couples have to trust God. 0.74

00:31:08.160 Have to be very generous.

00:31:10.560 And God will always reward the generosity of parents.

00:31:16.400 He will never abandon a family, a couple, who accepted all children with much generosity.

00:31:30.300 He will not abandon them.

00:31:33.040 This is the loving providence of our Father in heaven.

00:31:36.300 When he is vesting the lilies of the field, when he is feeding the birds in the sky,

00:31:44.260 he will feed also the children of a large family, as he did and demonstrated so many times.

00:31:57.560 Well, because God wants to feed us with himself, how do the Catholics all over the world who are missing our Lord,

00:32:05.680 and we want to be fed by our Lord, how do we call out most effectively to Jesus to come back to us?

00:32:12.980 I think that those Catholics who are now deprived from Mass and Holy Communion, of Mass and of Holy Communion,

00:32:22.000 they want to do acts of spiritual Holy Communion.

00:32:28.460 This is also very fruitful spiritually.

00:32:31.480 And there were times where Catholic families, during the persecution, for some years,

00:32:42.820 were deprived of Holy Mass and Holy Communion, but the Lord lived in their heart.

00:32:50.700 And so, in these cases, to start to live a more intense spiritual life,

00:33:00.920 to do acts of examination of conscience, to try to practice virtues,

00:33:09.220 to do acts of contrition.

00:33:10.840 When there is no priest, you can do an act of contrition,

00:33:13.720 a perfect loving contrition, in view of the next confession,

00:33:17.880 and the Lord forgives your sins, and asking the Lord to send a priest.

00:33:26.800 And God will provide, as he did.

00:33:32.240 Very impressive was the example of the Irish Catholics, for example, in the Penal Times, 0.99

00:33:39.020 when there were also hidden Masses, they were persecuted.

00:33:47.000 And so, in this time, and then to go spiritually, go to churches,

00:33:53.560 visit our Lord, the Blessed Sacrament.

00:33:56.980 At least there are some churches still open, so they can go.

00:34:00.640 Even when there is no Mass or prohibited public Mass,

00:34:05.640 we can, in many places still, I think, at least go and visit our Lord in the Church

00:34:12.780 and adore him, to send our Holy Guardian Angel

00:34:16.740 to represent us before the Lord, before the tabernacle,

00:34:23.280 and adore for us.

00:34:24.300 So, there are, for example, some possibilities to practice our Catholic faith.

00:34:35.700 Absolutely.

00:34:37.020 And let me ask you, do you see, in this unique time of upheaval,

00:34:44.140 a tie-in to the warning of chastisement of Our Lady of Farma?

00:34:48.720 I don't know directly if this is a direct connection,

00:34:55.240 but this extent of the prohibition of Mass,

00:35:02.400 to such an extent, it is quite apocalyptic.

00:35:07.160 It is evidently already has a sign, an apocalyptic sign.

00:35:15.780 We cannot deny this, to such an extent.

00:35:19.920 And then, the Fatima, the third secret of Fatima,

00:35:25.260 the third part of the secret of Fatima,

00:35:27.280 speaks about the persecution of the Church.

00:35:31.940 And so, as I said, this unproportual and reasonable,

00:35:38.460 against reason, prohibition of masses,

00:35:40.960 which now the governments decided,

00:35:46.060 and unfortunately also bishops,

00:35:49.240 this is already a kind of persecution

00:35:52.420 of the Church, of the Mass.

00:35:55.900 And so, it could have

00:35:59.000 a tie, a link,

00:36:03.220 to the message of Fatima.

00:36:06.040 I think, yes.

00:36:09.520 Because,

00:36:10.800 the signs of the apocalypses,

00:36:16.560 of the end times,

00:36:19.000 they can come slowly.

00:36:22.580 And so,

00:36:23.680 it could be already some

00:36:25.420 beginning

00:36:26.820 of the situation

00:36:30.320 which Our Lady

00:36:31.460 foretold,

00:36:33.460 described

00:36:34.140 in the third part

00:36:36.580 of the secret of Fatima,

00:36:39.340 maybe.

00:36:41.780 Archbishop Vigano

00:36:42.820 has just come out

00:36:43.720 to say that he doesn't believe

00:36:45.060 that the full third secret of Fatima

00:36:47.040 has been revealed.

00:36:48.560 I think he's following on the take

00:36:50.600 of Italian writer Antonio Sochi.

00:36:52.600 Do you have any take on that?

00:36:54.100 In my book,

00:36:56.060 Christus Vincet,

00:36:57.380 I spoke about this.

00:36:58.860 I have no access

00:37:00.480 to the fonts,

00:37:02.160 to the sources,

00:37:03.340 therefore,

00:37:04.060 I cannot say this.

00:37:06.100 But I'm only reasoning

00:37:08.240 out of my observation

00:37:11.220 and of some way

00:37:13.280 of common sense

00:37:15.260 to my opinion

00:37:17.040 in the presence

00:37:20.900 of Pope John Paul II.

00:37:22.480 Cardinal Ratzinger,

00:37:25.360 the future Pope

00:37:26.280 Benedict XVI.

00:37:28.200 He said

00:37:28.840 that

00:37:29.260 this is

00:37:30.840 the third part

00:37:33.060 of the secret of Fatima

00:37:34.580 and this is

00:37:35.500 war.

00:37:37.120 So,

00:37:38.080 for me,

00:37:38.900 it's difficult

00:37:39.400 to imagine

00:37:40.000 that

00:37:40.380 a person

00:37:42.060 with such

00:37:43.060 a moral

00:37:44.020 high standard

00:37:45.720 as

00:37:46.320 Cardinal Ratzinger

00:37:47.480 and John Paul II

00:37:51.360 would

00:37:52.640 deceit

00:37:55.040 the entire world

00:37:56.380 saying

00:37:57.020 this is all.

00:37:59.600 This said also

00:38:00.440 Cardinal Ratzinger

00:38:01.580 and we could

00:38:03.180 hear this

00:38:04.500 when in Fatima

00:38:06.940 it was revealed

00:38:08.300 or published

00:38:09.280 this part

00:38:10.440 of the manuscript

00:38:11.880 of Sister Lucy.

00:38:15.660 But

00:38:16.620 in the

00:38:17.920 biography

00:38:19.540 of Sister Lucy

00:38:21.820 there is

00:38:24.220 an observation

00:38:26.960 where

00:38:28.820 when I'm

00:38:31.880 recording well

00:38:33.420 there is written

00:38:34.720 so that

00:38:35.200 Our Lady

00:38:36.520 told

00:38:37.120 Sister Lucy

00:38:38.600 to reveal

00:38:39.480 this secret

00:38:40.520 but not

00:38:42.840 what

00:38:44.040 she explained

00:38:46.560 to her

00:38:47.520 about

00:38:48.100 this secret.

00:38:49.540 So,

00:38:50.100 there could be

00:38:50.900 the text

00:38:51.660 of the secret

00:38:52.540 was

00:38:53.060 third part

00:38:54.380 what she

00:38:55.000 revealed

00:38:55.580 it all

00:38:56.600 but

00:38:57.200 maybe

00:38:58.300 there was

00:38:59.080 another

00:39:00.000 supplementary

00:39:02.260 text

00:39:02.720 with an

00:39:04.440 explanation

00:39:05.420 about this

00:39:06.740 I don't know

00:39:08.100 it could be

00:39:09.300 Finally

00:39:11.500 would you like

00:39:12.260 to join

00:39:12.780 Cardinal Burke

00:39:13.420 who in 2017

00:39:14.420 the centenary

00:39:15.720 of Fatima

00:39:16.200 spoke at the

00:39:16.860 Rome Life Forum

00:39:17.520 calling for

00:39:18.520 the consecration

00:39:19.400 of Russia

00:39:20.020 to the Immaculate

00:39:20.700 Heart of Mary

00:39:21.420 now of course

00:39:21.900 he didn't deny

00:39:23.220 that Pope

00:39:23.640 John Paul II

00:39:24.340 did consecrate

00:39:25.500 the whole world

00:39:26.440 to the Immaculate

00:39:27.200 Heart

00:39:27.460 but

00:39:28.340 he asked

00:39:29.660 that it be

00:39:30.520 done again

00:39:31.040 and this time

00:39:31.880 according to

00:39:32.760 her explicit 0.99

00:39:34.200 wishes

00:39:34.860 I'm agreeing

00:39:36.800 because

00:39:38.020 our lady

00:39:39.820 asked

00:39:40.920 for the

00:39:42.020 consecration

00:39:43.040 of Russia

00:39:44.040 and why

00:39:45.660 should the

00:39:46.960 Pope

00:39:47.320 know this

00:39:48.280 and bring

00:39:50.460 a lot

00:39:51.880 of blessings

00:39:52.740 our lady

00:39:54.460 she told

00:39:55.660 that

00:39:56.760 the Pope

00:39:58.060 will

00:39:58.620 know this

00:39:59.700 he will

00:40:00.840 consecrate

00:40:02.020 Russia

00:40:02.540 to my

00:40:03.000 Immaculate

00:40:03.500 Heart

00:40:04.080 and

00:40:05.740 then

00:40:06.180 there

00:40:06.860 would

00:40:08.240 will be

00:40:09.060 given to

00:40:09.600 the world

00:40:10.240 time of

00:40:11.700 peace

00:40:12.420 and

00:40:13.680 Russia

00:40:14.260 will be

00:40:15.240 converted

00:40:15.900 so

00:40:16.560 we have

00:40:18.440 not yet

00:40:19.160 a time

00:40:19.880 of peace

00:40:20.400 we see

00:40:20.860 now

00:40:21.500 it's

00:40:22.640 all other

00:40:24.220 than a time

00:40:25.140 of peace

00:40:25.960 and now

00:40:27.140 Russia

00:40:27.720 is not

00:40:28.280 yet

00:40:28.500 converted

00:40:29.040 in the

00:40:29.520 sense

00:40:30.000 of a

00:40:30.940 full

00:40:31.460 conversion

00:40:32.460 a full

00:40:33.720 conversion

00:40:34.440 would be

00:40:35.320 when

00:40:35.620 the

00:40:36.620 Russian

00:40:37.220 Christians

00:40:39.720 the Orthodox

00:40:40.420 would be

00:40:41.600 united

00:40:42.360 with the

00:40:43.900 universal

00:40:44.660 church

00:40:45.340 with the

00:40:46.480 city of

00:40:46.940 Rome

00:40:47.280 so this

00:40:48.140 has not

00:40:49.220 yet

00:40:49.420 happened

00:40:49.920 and therefore

00:40:51.020 I think

00:40:51.680 that

00:40:52.740 the

00:40:53.980 consecration

00:40:54.700 to Russia

00:40:55.760 should be

00:40:57.220 done

00:40:57.600 in the

00:40:58.240 way

00:40:58.500 Our Lady

00:40:59.340 asked for

00:41:00.500 existence

00:41:01.040 in

00:41:01.480 Russia

00:41:02.780 and

00:41:04.000 in

00:41:05.000 a moral

00:41:05.560 unity

00:41:06.140 with

00:41:06.960 all the

00:41:07.480 bishops

00:41:07.880 Bishop Schneider

00:41:11.760 thank you so

00:41:12.500 very much

00:41:12.960 for your

00:41:13.280 time

00:41:13.600 and I

00:41:14.220 would ask

00:41:14.740 as we

00:41:15.080 conclude

00:41:15.480 if you

00:41:16.100 could

00:41:16.260 please

00:41:16.660 give us

00:41:17.100 all

00:41:17.480 your

00:41:18.000 blessing

00:41:18.360 yes

00:41:19.820 Amen

00:41:40.640 Amen

00:41:42.000 Thank you

00:41:43.240 Bishop Schneider

00:41:43.860 from all of us

00:41:44.680 here at

00:41:44.940 LifeSite News

00:41:45.500 and the

00:41:46.360 countless

00:41:46.800 Catholics

00:41:47.300 around the

00:41:47.840 world

00:41:48.020 who love

00:41:48.500 you

00:41:48.660 and pray

00:41:49.160 for you

00:41:49.600 every

00:41:50.000 day

00:41:50.300 Thank you

00:41:51.960 very much

00:41:52.640 Thank you

00:41:53.680 Christus

00:41:54.760 vincit

00:41:55.340 Christus

00:41:55.920 vincit

00:41:56.400 indeed

00:41:56.900 Alleluia

00:41:57.740 And God

00:41:59.540 bless all of

00:42:00.020 you

00:42:00.180 We'll see

00:42:00.740 you next

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00:42:01.320 right here

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00:42:03.140 Show

00:42:03.400 Hello

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00:42:06.000 Weston

00:42:06.420 I'd like

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00:42:18.140 God bless

00:42:18.840 you

00:42:19.600 met

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The John-Henry Westen Show - April 28, 2020

Bishop Schneider： Govt’s are using COVID-19 as pretext to ‘persecute’ Church

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