The John-Henry Westen Show - Bishop Schneider's WARNING： 'Novus Ordo CANNOT Continue As Is'

00:00:00.300 Synodality, it is a circling about ourselves.

00:00:03.860 It is for me such a cheap, poor church life centered on yourself.

00:00:11.840 Hello, my friends.

00:00:12.800 Welcome to the John Hunter Weston Show.

00:00:14.520 Very special guest for you here today.

00:00:16.900 We have Bishop Athanasius Schneider with us to talk about what's going on in the church

00:00:20.540 because we just experienced the conclave where we were expecting a discussion on the liturgy.

00:00:25.660 Didn't happen.

00:00:26.380 They focused on other things.

00:00:27.680 But we did learn that there would be a catechism coming based on the Second Vatican Council,

00:00:34.260 which Pope Leo called the guiding star of the church.

00:00:37.600 And we're going to go into what are the possibilities?

00:00:40.360 What does Bishop Schneider see as the possibilities coming from this focus on liturgy, which will happen?

00:00:46.460 And what's going to become of the traditional Latin Mass and of the Novus Ordo?

00:00:50.520 And where are we going?

00:00:51.340 Is there going to be a third possibility?

00:00:52.680 Bishop Schneider, thank you so very much for joining us.

00:00:55.900 You're welcome.

00:00:56.320 If you could please start us off at the side of the cross.

00:00:59.200 In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

00:01:03.580 Amen.

00:01:04.320 Amen.

00:01:04.840 Thank you, Excellency.

00:01:05.820 You've said in the past that the Second Vatican Council has sort of had some ambiguities.

00:01:14.620 It was a pastoral document.

00:01:16.320 But you also talked about the need for some clarifications or some corrections of some parts.

00:01:21.840 Now that Pope Leo has said this about the Second Vatican Council is a guiding star of the church and there's a catechism coming out on it.

00:01:31.520 Are you thinking maybe there might be those clarifications, those corrections in there?

00:01:36.840 Or what do you foresee?

00:01:37.700 Well, first, we had to say not that the council is the guiding star for the church, but it is Jesus Christ.

00:01:45.780 He's the only guiding star.

00:01:48.120 The incarnated God, the incarnated God, the eternal word of God, who revealed us all divine truth.

00:01:58.560 So the word of Jesus Christ, his work, the gospel, his person, his divine person, he is the guiding star.

00:02:10.980 And we must return the entire church to put Jesus Christ really, concretely, visibly, in the center of all our endeavors, of all our meetings.

00:02:26.480 But first, starting to put him in the center of our worship, that he is really the center in the church, in the tabernacle, the altar, his sacrifice, his cross.

00:02:43.120 And this is the manner we celebrate.

00:02:44.960 And this was the most evident and perfect way the church reached through millennium in the traditional form of the Holy Mass.

00:02:59.700 And so, therefore, I think the key of all problems in the church is Jesus Christ.

00:03:09.280 He will resolve all.

00:03:10.700 And this is first to say, and concretely, it's not one council cannot be the star, because what is a council?

00:03:19.140 A council is only a manner, a mode, an instrument of the magisterium, which can have other instruments rather than a council.

00:03:31.760 Of course, a council is the most solemn way, but it is usually the ordinary magisterium, really ordinary throughout the centuries and places, which proclaims us Christ and his truth, his unchangeable truth.

00:03:49.700 Because the council, the Vatican Council itself, formulated a very important phrase, saying that the magisterium, it means the pope and the bishops or the council, is not above the word of God.

00:04:08.920 It is not above the written and also the transmitted word of God.

00:04:15.760 It is the holy tradition, the sacred tradition.

00:04:19.660 But in the magisterium, all bishops' councils are beneath the word of God and must serve him.

00:04:31.840 And their task is only to transmit this revelation of God, the depositum fedi, the truth, in a most possible clear manner, in a most faithful manner, even scrupulous manner.

00:04:55.640 And so this is what the church always did and said, and therefore it is impossible to say that the magisterium is now itself the light.

00:05:09.140 No.

00:05:10.480 In the ancient times, the fathers of the church were so humble, the great saints, fathers of the church.

00:05:18.600 They had this vision of the church.

00:05:21.120 The church is not the light.

00:05:22.780 The church is a moon, like the moon receives all his light from the sun, which is shining.

00:05:32.400 And this is Jesus Christ, the sun.

00:05:35.640 And the church must be humble, servant.

00:05:39.840 She is the bride.

00:05:41.580 Even like St. John the Baptist, to a point, point out to Jesus Christ always.

00:05:49.020 And therefore, I think this formulation is not so happy.

00:05:54.400 It is promoting a kind of ecclesiastical anthropocentrism, or I would say magisteriocentrism.

00:06:05.760 We must be Christocentric.

00:06:09.540 Christocentrism.

00:06:10.180 So this is, I think, very important to state.

00:06:14.520 And, of course, there are ambiguities or ambiguous formulations in the texts of what they can do.

00:06:22.880 I think no honest person could deny it.

00:06:28.220 It is simply, it would be not honest.

00:06:30.860 It would be a simply play of, or a kind of acrobatics, mental acrobatics.

00:06:40.120 It is not honest, as some try to do.

00:06:43.860 Of course, there are also good formulations, which we can accept, and we accept his gratitude.

00:06:49.560 I think the most important of all items of what the Vatican, or the meaning of Vatican II is, in my opinion,

00:07:02.060 the call for universal call to holiness in the church.

00:07:07.400 That all in the church, from the Pope to the lowest member, are called by God to holiness, to strive, to go as the holiness, the vocation.

00:07:26.040 And this is, in my opinion, the very important message, which the Vatican II gave, and which is often forgotten and not spoken of.

00:07:37.400 And the rest, I think it is not so much a contribution, a real contribution to the clarity of the divine truth,

00:07:48.100 but more or less pastoral explanations of it, or catechetical explanations, or in this way, homiletic explanations,

00:07:59.160 because this was the aim of the council, which John XXIII formulated.

00:08:07.260 He said that this council is not a task to formulate, to propose some new dogmas or definitive teachings,

00:08:19.020 but only to explain the deposit of faith, so to make an explanation in a pastoral view regarding the current situation of the world.

00:08:35.940 And so this is really, and then one month after the council, Paul VI basically repeated it and said,

00:08:45.120 this council did not proclaim from itself no dogma.

00:08:50.540 This council did not propose any own definitive teaching,

00:08:56.100 because its main characteristic and aim was pastoral.

00:09:02.820 And so this is simply a fact we must bear in mind, and therefore not to overstate a council.

00:09:11.560 This is one of many councils.

00:09:14.380 It cannot be isolated from the other 20 councils.

00:09:19.740 And this no council did it.

00:09:22.620 It would be a kind of presumption of pride.

00:09:27.560 And this is occurring, but it has, for some people, during the council, after the council in our day,

00:09:36.840 they simply use the council as a pretext, as a mask to hiding their liberal modernistic agenda,

00:09:48.420 to change the church of Christ to another human-shaped organization,

00:09:59.620 which is adapted to the moods and to the fashions of the world.

00:10:05.520 So this is, I think we must, again, put the council in a more modest position and not overstate it.

00:10:14.340 And say, times pass, already 60 years, it's another time, it was another time there,

00:10:22.180 they have other problems.

00:10:24.400 And so let us not fix on this, let us fix ourselves on the unchanging, beautiful truth of God,

00:10:35.980 of Christ, which the church is served intactly, unchangingly, over 2,000 years.

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00:11:22.300 We just had the conclave, the Holy Father just met with the cardinals,

00:11:28.460 on the roster that was actually told beforehand was liturgy.

00:11:35.280 And so a lot of people were thinking, oh, perhaps this is the long-awaited discussion

00:11:40.260 over the traditional Latin Mass, and perhaps doing away with Traditiones Custodes,

00:11:46.300 or amending it somehow to allow for an openness, once again, to the traditional Latin Mass.

00:11:51.980 However, when they got there, they decided they weren't going to talk about that.

00:11:57.840 They were going to talk about mission and about synodality.

00:12:00.900 And so that went unaddressed.

00:12:03.540 But that's still happening.

00:12:05.640 I just saw an interview with Cardinal Muller, where he talked about, seemingly,

00:12:12.940 I mean, he just met with the Holy Father himself, but talked about Pope Leo will come up with a solution

00:12:19.100 for the Mass, which will make everyone happy.

00:12:23.460 That's saying a lot.

00:12:25.020 But as I wondered then, there's a lot of talk a while back about a reform of the reform,

00:12:32.540 and so on.

00:12:33.760 But that leaves us with a few possibilities, and I'm wondering if you could address those.

00:12:37.840 So one possibility, there would be maybe a single unified Roman Rite,

00:12:42.960 which would incorporate elements of both the traditional Latin Mass and of the Novus Ordo,

00:12:48.940 and it would effectively replace the traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo.

00:12:53.700 So you basically wouldn't have either of those.

00:12:55.700 You just have one, and it might be a lot more Latin, and so on.

00:13:00.200 So that's one possibility.

00:13:01.320 A second possibility could be that the Novus Ordo would remain the same, but the traditional

00:13:09.460 Latin Mass would get changed into sort of a Latinized Novus Ordo with different elements

00:13:15.740 that some of the bishops currently or the Holy Father wants to see incorporated into the traditional

00:13:21.300 Latin Mass.

00:13:22.100 And the other way is that it's actually the opposite.

00:13:26.440 The traditional Latin Mass just stays the same as it always was, but the Novus Ordo itself

00:13:31.740 is changed, and elements are added to it to change it.

00:13:36.800 So there's three, as I see it, there's three different possibilities.

00:13:39.560 I mean, I guess four would be that everything just remains the same.

00:13:42.460 Do you have a sense of any of those possibilities going forward?

00:13:46.100 What's your sense of things, and where would you like to see things going?

00:13:49.600 Maybe you allow first that I can say that it was not a conclave, it was a consistence.

00:13:56.240 Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:13:57.560 Yeah, I said conclave.

00:13:59.320 Thank you for the correction.

00:14:00.440 Yes, I think they were, unfortunately, did not speak about liturgy, but about evangelization,

00:14:07.940 mission, synodality.

00:14:09.600 But first, I think how we can make synodality, or I mean evangelization, let us say, when there

00:14:18.200 is no clarity of faith.

00:14:20.660 This is the big problem in the life of the Church, the enormous doctrinal confusion in the

00:14:28.100 Church.

00:14:29.080 We cannot proclaim Christ with one voice, convincingly, the Catholic Church today, because 0.99

00:14:36.840 there is so contradictory preaching all over the world in Catholic Churches and bishops

00:14:44.480 and cardinals.

00:14:46.600 This is impossible.

00:14:49.540 This is the first step, in my opinion, which the Pope should address and propose to the

00:14:56.200 cardinals to establish some points to clarify, so we speak with one voice and evangelize.

00:15:06.240 This is really the indispensable condition, recondition.

00:15:12.860 First, then synodality.

00:15:16.380 What does it mean?

00:15:17.240 This is such a confusion.

00:15:18.360 Synodality is a kind of code word which everyone uses for his own agenda to transform the Church

00:15:30.480 life in a continuous, permanent parliament style of debating clubs, and this is contrary

00:15:38.960 to the spirit of the spirit of Christ and the Apostles and the Church of all times.

00:15:46.360 This is not the method of the Catholic Church.

00:15:49.520 We can sometimes, of course, listen and speak.

00:15:53.080 This is evident, but not to such an extent to make such an institutionalization of this.

00:16:03.280 And then also without clear aims, but simply to be together and discuss, to sit around a table.

00:16:14.720 It is also even visibly such an anthropocentric message and shape which is displaying before us.

00:16:23.260 And so this is, I think, what I would say the first, and should be clarified, what is synodality as the Church

00:16:35.680 always had and was teaching and practicing synods, and not in this new invented method of synodality,

00:16:48.160 which the Church in this way never practiced, it is alien to the constant Catholic tradition.

00:17:01.480 This form is proper to the Protestant churches and to Anglican Church and so on.

00:17:09.560 And we know where it is leading and led to simply increasing confusion and relativization and adaptation

00:17:21.580 to the spirit of the world, to the unfaithfulness to Christ and to the faith of the Apostles and the Fathers.

00:17:31.000 So, and then the issue of liturgy, it should be stressed as it was planned, even shortly, but it was not.

00:17:41.480 It was taken away from the agenda.

00:17:44.580 Probably it was a very, very short time.

00:17:47.860 Of course, in such a one and a half day, it is really difficult to treat these topics.

00:17:56.380 I think they should be planned better in advance to give more time, but to discuss this item.

00:18:05.300 Because the liturgy is ontologically, I say, the first task of the Church.

00:18:14.340 Why?

00:18:14.620 Because we were created to adore God, to worship Him, the entire creation.

00:18:20.300 And this will be our eternal happiness in heaven with the angels, with all the saints, our Lady, to adore God.

00:18:29.080 To see Him, of course, lovingly, to adore Him, all in turn, to praise Him without end.

00:18:35.380 And this is the first task of the Church.

00:18:38.280 Therefore, to adore God through the offering of the sacrifice of the cross, sacramentally,

00:18:46.000 which is the highest possible act of raising, adoring God at all, the sacrifice of the cross.

00:18:56.660 And so, this should be stressed.

00:18:59.720 And then, to go on to proclaim the Gospel, the teaching of Christ, and to make all people, really, disciples of Christ,

00:19:08.840 members of His mystical body, of His Church.

00:19:12.880 This is, and to save them for eternity.

00:19:15.240 This is the task of the Church, and this the Church did.

00:19:19.360 And now we are distracted with other topics, which synodality, it is circling about ourselves, simply.

00:19:30.180 What a poor vision, really.

00:19:34.600 What a poor, it is for me, such a cheap, poor Church life, centered on yourself, on Church structures.

00:19:43.700 And so, but now to concrete, to your concrete question of these three possibilities.

00:19:53.980 I don't know how the Pope will decide or how the hierarchy will decide, but I think, and I am more convinced,

00:20:06.340 that the reform, in a good sense, must be done.

00:20:10.240 The novice order, as it is, cannot continue in such a way.

00:20:14.220 This is simply, we must, this is even not what Vatican II had in mind at all, the form of the Novus Ordo.

00:20:25.660 First, it does not correspond to the text itself, or to the intention, or to the mind of the Sacrosanctum Concilium text of Vatican II,

00:20:41.940 because there it said, there should not be introduced novelties.

00:20:46.660 See, number 23, but there were introduced enormous novelties in the Novus Ordo.

00:20:55.260 And then, if this council continues to say novelties, only in an organic manner, which already existed.

00:21:04.880 But you see, there are so many elements in the Novus Ordo, which did not exist.

00:21:09.880 They were simply invented on the table, according to a Protestant Jewish prayer.

00:21:16.900 And secondly, it was in the debates, in the Acta Concilia, where there are reported the protocols of the debates,

00:21:29.560 of all church, all council fathers who made their contribution orally, or written, during the council.

00:21:38.660 Well, it is a volume which contains all these in Latin.

00:21:44.240 We must read it.

00:21:45.440 I read it twice.

00:21:47.140 And there is such a cautious, almost the entire, the majority of the discussions were around the vernacular language and Latin and so on, around this.

00:22:00.280 But no more.

00:22:01.000 The church, the council fathers were not so much engaged in proposing concrete reforms of the Holy Mass, no.

00:22:10.360 And so, in 65, in the beginning, the Pope already approved a new Ordo Missae, a new order of Mass,

00:22:21.100 according to the decisions of the council.

00:22:25.200 So, it was the first.

00:22:27.120 This is the true Mass of Vatican II, that of 65.

00:22:32.380 This is also forgotten.

00:22:34.160 And this Mass, when the council fathers returned to the last session in September 65,

00:22:41.480 they already celebrated this Reformed Ordo Missae.

00:22:45.440 But it was very cautious, it was very slight, Reformed, without ruptures, as the council text demanded.

00:22:55.920 For example, it is basically the 65 Mass, I call this the true Vatican II Mass, not that of the 6th in 70.

00:23:05.540 The structure is basically the same, all the rubrics almost the same, only the Psalm 42 at the beginning was taken away.

00:23:20.500 But it was not a complete novelty because even before the council, during the Requiem Masses and during the Passion Tide,

00:23:31.540 there was also removed the Psalm 42.

00:23:35.380 So, it was not such a huge reform.

00:23:39.940 And then, the second one was that the last Gospel of John was also removed.

00:23:46.840 But in some occasions before the council, when there was a subsequent celebration, it was also removed.

00:23:55.200 In any case, and the rest was not changed at all.

00:23:58.480 It remained with the canon, only the Roman canon, and it was obligatory in Latin in 65.

00:24:08.040 You could not say in the Eucharistic prayer, the Roman canon, the only one, in vernacular language in 65.

00:24:18.300 And the same rubrics, the crosses, the genuflections, all the same as the traditional Latin Mass. 0.67

00:24:25.260 Only the vernacular language was allowed from the beginning until the preface.

00:24:30.440 And from the preface on, until the Pata Nostra, it was only in Latin, and even it was still kept,

00:24:38.640 that the canon was prayed by the priest silently, in 65 even.

00:24:46.180 This is the Meso-Vetican II.

00:24:48.620 So, we have to stress it.

00:24:51.000 So, I think that first step, first that the traditional Latin Mass, as it is, should be kept, not changed.

00:25:02.560 Because of the old venerable age of this rite, which was, in this form, celebrated, I would say, almost 1,000 years, a millennium.

00:25:19.200 It is not the Tridentine Mass at all.

00:25:21.660 We have missiles before, 100 years before the Council of Trent, where the Ordo Missis is exactly the same, without any changes.

00:25:34.760 So, I speak not of the missile, but of the Ordo Missis.

00:25:38.440 It was almost the same.

00:25:39.720 Since the times of Pope Innocent III, in the end of the 12th century, who commented the Ordo Missis made a commentary.

00:25:52.580 So, we see that it is the same.

00:25:54.340 And therefore, because of this venerable age, I would propose not to change, but leave it as it, and then to proceed steps by steps to reform the Novus Ordo towards, to bring the Novus Ordo towards the traditional form, steps by steps.

00:26:20.020 So, that then, after time, the so-called Novus Ordo, or the common, we could give them another name then, or the most spread, or the use, the newer use of the Mass,

00:26:40.740 would be basically the same as the old one, except the use of the vernacular language, would be, I think, more present in that possibly Reformed Mass,

00:26:57.300 and with slight, maybe, rubricial differences, like what some prayers could be spoken loud, except the canon, of course, and then also only one canon.

00:27:08.720 And so, both forms would be basically the same as, but the difference would be the use of the vernacular language, and some small rubricial differences.

00:27:20.860 So, it would be a slight variant, basically one, right, with slight adaptations, which was also, in the ancient times, some dioceses had some adaptations of the Roman rite,

00:27:38.060 and so it was, this is possible. So, I think this could be done.

00:27:45.560 Beautiful. What would be the elements? I've got a few elements down that I wanted to talk to you about, but in terms of this moving the Novus Ordo, as you say, that needs to be done,

00:27:56.200 I think the faithful recognize it needs to be done, because those who love tradition but don't have access to it, a lot of, there's a movement in the Church of the faithful to strive to get to this place of closer to the traditional Mass.

00:28:17.320 And so, some of the elements that I'd like to talk to you about, I'll name some, but I'd like you to name some as well, but one of the ones, for instance,

00:28:25.940 and they're hard because they push up against modern wishes and, you know, so for a long time, for instance, they say, oh, you know, we want women to have a higher place in the Church and so on and so forth,

00:28:40.840 and Pope Francis made moves that way and so on. And yet, in the Holy Scriptures, St. Paul talks very specifically saying women are to be silent in the Church.

00:28:51.840 So, even among lay faithful who are women, there is a movement to say no on the, and I talked to Peter Kozneski about this, you know,

00:29:02.360 why are women not supposed to be in the sanctuary? And he talked about how it's because those in the sanctuary represent Jesus, represent Christ.

00:29:11.760 So, it's a difference between the sanctuary and the choir loft, let's say. But, so that's one of the elements, female readers, 1.00

00:29:18.760 but that's so, you might say, countercultural today because there's such a movement in society for feminism, but also in the Church. 0.99

00:29:26.700 Is that one of the elements that you would see changing? And how could one go about that, despite the cultural pressure and even pressure in the Church to be different?

00:29:35.640 I think that the first, most important change for the Novus Ordo should be that all the Masses should be celebrated towards the Lord.

00:29:48.240 At Deum Ad Orientem. All Masses in the Catholic Church, Novus Ordo, all.

00:29:53.620 It should be an order of the Pope, compulsory, because this form is contrary to the apostolic tradition, to the meaning of prayer itself, this close circle around.

00:30:09.380 He must go out from this sickness of anthropocentric worship.

00:30:16.660 This, in my opinion, the deepest sickness in our time, in the world, and in the Church. 0.98

00:30:22.640 The anthropocentric, with this style, we basically give a message, it is about us, it's not about God.

00:30:36.260 It is about to raise ourselves.

00:30:39.100 No, this must be the first.

00:30:40.820 And to give, really, the shape of a prayer and adoration, this, the same direction, and to express the essential meaning of the Mass, which is the sacrifice of the cross, which is in this form visibly manifested.

00:30:58.880 And not the banquet or the communion, which is, of course, an integral part, but it flows out from the essence.

00:31:08.260 It is not the essence, but flows out from the essence.

00:31:11.740 And this moment of table and banquet is exactly the communion rail.

00:31:19.340 This is the altar, is the table itself, but the communion rail, the moment.

00:31:25.140 For the priest is, of course, the altar, also the table in this sense, but he takes the Holy Communion there.

00:31:31.500 But for the people, and therefore, in some languages, communion rail is called the table of the Lord.

00:31:40.140 In ancient Germany, they called it, it means I go to the altar rail.

00:31:48.980 This is the first, indispensable.

00:31:50.940 And the second, almost the same, I would say, importance is that all should receive communion in the tongue and kneeling, kneeling for those who can kneel physically, of course, but should be, because the current situation with the communion in hand is the deepest wound in the church.

00:32:11.420 I say this with all my conviction, because such a horrible treatment of the holiest of holies of our Lord in the little host during communion, it is unprecedented.

00:32:26.800 Such a mass desecretions which are going on.

00:32:31.940 Of course, many of the people do not eat consciously, but de facto, materially, so many fragments fall down and are trampled.

00:32:43.860 And then, evermore, of course, the holy hosts are stolen.

00:32:52.400 And also, the entire image is such a minimalism of veneration.

00:32:58.720 Such a minimum to give to this moment, which should be the maximum of reverence, of awe, of security, of attention.

00:33:11.740 It is our greatest treasure.

00:33:15.580 It is the divinity of our Lord, hidden.

00:33:18.960 And the Holy Communion is treated such a banal, everyday manner, like to take common food.

00:33:29.760 So, I think these two points must be introduced as first, because of their objective importance.

00:33:37.780 And then, I would say, yes, what you mentioned, that the women, the ladies, should not be more, during Holy Mass, acting in the altar.

00:33:53.080 First, I think it's that there should not be acolytes or altar servers or even lectors, readers of the reading of the Holy Scripture during Holy Mass.

00:34:07.800 In the sanctuary, it is contrary to the apostolic tradition, to the entire tradition of the Catholic Church.

00:34:18.680 It is giving a sign of introducing feminism in the core of liturgy, of the Holy Mass, at a kind of promotion of giving the women access, step by step, to the Holy Ministry.

00:34:37.740 Because they say first acolyte, and then, of course, when it's acolyte, why not deacon?

00:34:42.680 And when deacon, why not priest?

00:34:44.280 It is logic, and when priest, why not bishop?

00:34:48.560 And when bishop, why not pope?

00:34:50.780 It is really, it is not a joke.

00:34:53.040 It is really the logic consequence.

00:34:55.180 And so, the Anglican Church, which has now, in Canterbury, the so-called Lady Archbishop, what a caricature is this.

00:35:04.440 But I think that they are consequential, the Anglican Church.

00:35:09.860 It's not to admire.

00:35:11.220 It's, I think, to astonish that the Anglican Church now has a Lady Archbishop of Canterbury.

00:35:20.480 It is logic, it is clear.

00:35:22.380 When they started with altar girls, it's been finishing in a Lady Archbishop.

00:35:29.180 And when we started, we started with altar girls now, so many years, unfortunately, even John Paul II allowed it. 0.98

00:35:37.700 And now, Pope Francis introduced officially the acolytes institution, liturgically, of ladies.

00:35:49.000 And then, in the Catholic Church would be the logic consequence to be a Lady Pope. 0.91

00:35:56.820 We must stop this feminism in the altar room. 1.00

00:36:01.420 And a true Catholic girl and woman would never go to the altar during Holy Mass. 1.00

00:36:10.260 Never.

00:36:12.780 Never.

00:36:14.420 Those who are doing, they are all misled or forced by the priests, simply misled, in good intention.

00:36:24.040 And I will appeal to this Lady, please step down and reflect again.

00:36:30.100 Would you imagine that Our Lady would go to the altar and dare act as altar lady and reader on the pulpit?

00:36:42.540 Never come to imagine.

00:36:43.960 In her unspeakable humility and modesty, she was always on the side in all the life of Jesus.

00:36:57.040 And she was the Queen of Heaven, the Mother of God.

00:37:01.040 She would never, because she was conscious it was not for the female sex, this message, this mission. 0.96

00:37:09.420 She was the mother.

00:37:10.500 And so, her mission was to be the heart, not to make, to display herself, but to be the heart.

00:37:20.260 And this is more strong for the Church, that the women will fulfill their mission as Mary,

00:37:27.840 to be the loving heart and to support the Church with their true feminine characteristics,

00:37:36.680 motherly, motherly, bridal.

00:37:40.800 And this every girl must have, this Catholic girl, this basically sense of the maternity, 0.98

00:37:47.400 even when she is a virgin or will be a religious sister.

00:37:52.140 She must keep this sense of maternity like Our Lady. 1.00

00:37:57.960 So, this is so clear, and therefore, we must this reform it.

00:38:05.480 And then, as a next step, I think, should be reformed, of course, the music,

00:38:11.320 to return to a dignified, sacred music, more recording and chant,

00:38:19.180 to spread it really all over the world, and dignified polyphonic music,

00:38:26.540 and to stop these Protestant-style Pentecostal forms of guitars and so on.

00:38:34.140 This should be stopped.

00:38:35.260 This is not worthy of a Catholic worship.

00:38:39.340 This is worldly and goes into the direction of paganism, 0.97

00:38:43.420 of this indiscipline in worship.

00:38:47.920 This is indiscipline.

00:38:50.260 And then, of course, the other element of this, I would say, to use more Latin.

00:38:57.460 This would be an important step.

00:38:59.840 It could be done when the Pope will issue a norm that, let us say, is only an example,

00:39:05.500 that in every cathedral, shrine, or greater church should be at least once a month,

00:39:14.880 the entire Mass, with, of course, exceptional readings and so on,

00:39:20.260 be celebrated in Latin, at least the ordinarium and some.

00:39:24.740 It could be.

00:39:25.500 And then for the monasteries and for religious should be compulsory that the conventional Mass

00:39:34.340 of every day should be in Latin, with exception, of course, readings and so on.

00:39:39.500 And in this way, the Latin will be also more a language of the Catholics all over the world,

00:39:47.060 especially in our day when we are so more united with travels and trips and so on.

00:39:55.260 I think these five elements could be step-by-step introduced.

00:39:59.520 I believe that the divine providence will guide the church in this direction.

00:40:06.180 Bishop Schneider, I want to thank you so much for your time, your generosity,

00:40:10.300 but also ask you, if you wouldn't mind, to please give us all your blessing for 2026,

00:40:17.460 that we might fulfill the will of the Lord this year and be ever faithful to him, as was his Holy Mother.

00:40:23.220 Thank you.

00:40:23.720 I will do this.

00:40:24.400 I will ask all the listeners to pray fervently for Pope Leo,

00:40:30.020 that he might receive God's light, illumination,

00:40:36.060 to recognize the necessity to issue a kind of profession of faith

00:40:42.960 regarding the errors of our time,

00:40:45.960 to strengthen us, to confirm us in faith,

00:40:49.940 in the clarity of faith.

00:40:52.720 And the second, that Pope Leo might receive from God the illumination and then the will to do it,

00:41:02.080 to restore the liturgical peace in the church,

00:41:05.560 to give the full citizenship to the traditional Latin liturgy, the full.

00:41:12.420 This is the minimum for a peace, for a justice and peace in the church.

00:41:18.120 For this, in two intentions, I pray you, please pray fervently for Pope Leo for this.

00:41:27.900 And then I now give you the blessing.

00:41:29.900 Dominus Vobiscum.

00:41:31.680 Dominus Vobiscum.

00:41:32.320 Et cum spiritu tuo.

00:41:33.680 Et benedictio Dei Omnipotentis, Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti,

00:41:41.380 deschenda super Vos, et mani et semper Amen.

00:41:45.880 Praise be Jesus Christ.

00:41:48.440 Now and forever.

00:41:50.360 Excellency, thank you so very much.

00:41:52.420 God bless you.

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00:41:56.840 please accept our humble prayers as we pray for you to continue your powerful ministry

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00:42:02.220 God bless you.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - January 14, 2026

Bishop Schneider's WARNING： 'Novus Ordo CANNOT Continue As Is'

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