The John-Henry Westen Show - April 03, 2020


Bishops need to act now! Theologian says eucharist is not dispensable


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Summary

In this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, Professor Janet Smith of the Sacred Heart Media Seminary joins us to talk about the call for the return of the sacraments to the dioceses of the whole wide world.


Transcript

00:00:00.800 Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we're going to be talking about an appeal, an appeal being made to the bishops of the whole wide world to please give us back the sacraments in a safe way, however they can, but to please make sure that they know that this is an absolute essential for Catholics and for the world.
00:00:21.380 You're going to want to stay tuned. We've got Janet Smith, Professor Janet Smith from the Detroit Seminary, who's going to be talking with us. Stay tuned.
00:00:30.000 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:00:54.580 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
00:00:58.320 Professor Janet Smith, welcome to the program.
00:01:02.600 Well, thank you very much. You do know I'm retired. I was of the Sacred Heart Media Seminary, but now I'm a free agent.
00:01:09.280 Absolutely, absolutely.
00:01:10.460 Free to cause as much trouble as I can wherever I want to.
00:01:14.140 That's right, but the title is still well-deserved.
00:01:16.940 Right.
00:01:17.980 So, let's talk about this. This has been, I mean, the world has absolutely changed everywhere.
00:01:22.900 We're heading into a holy week with absolutely no public celebrations, at least for the most part, in Rome, in the Vatican, in most dioceses around the world.
00:01:35.760 We are bereft of mass.
00:01:37.300 The one thing that gives us our, you know, main hope for salvation, the bread of heaven on earth, is seemingly removed from everyone.
00:01:45.620 If you can first address that reality we're living in today.
00:01:51.500 Yes. The bishops have been what I would call, I'm sorry to say, missing in action.
00:01:57.460 We haven't heard much from them.
00:02:00.280 You know, they've published some letters of, we'll get through this together.
00:02:03.560 And most of them are offering their Sunday mass live streamed.
00:02:08.820 But as far as really explaining to us why they've made the decisions they've made and convincing us that they are doing everything they can to make certain that we have what access to the sacraments is permitted to us during this time.
00:02:23.660 We're not hearing that.
00:02:25.000 And so this is a plea from the heart of the laity who are saying, you know, bishops, we're believers.
00:02:31.880 We believe that Jesus Christ is there in the sacraments.
00:02:34.560 We believe that God wants this sacrifice, this offering to be made every Sunday.
00:02:40.040 We've been going to mass our whole life long.
00:02:42.340 And now you're telling us, and we understand, we understand that there are circumstances in which the liturgy needs to be suspended.
00:02:49.420 But really, is there nothing we can do?
00:02:53.920 In a diocese that I know of, a priest wanted to, for Palm Sunday, wanted to hold a mass in the parking lot.
00:03:00.360 And everybody would come in their cars and leave in their cars, right?
00:03:04.420 And the bishop said, no, he couldn't do it.
00:03:08.040 And why not?
00:03:09.160 And he said, well, because we have a lot in this directive in this state that that would be considered a public gathering.
00:03:15.780 And I'm saying, well, is it?
00:03:17.600 I mean, and has he called?
00:03:20.200 And has he had his lawyers call and ask?
00:03:22.260 And has he tried to persuade them that this is perfectly safe?
00:03:26.060 I mean, what is it going from your house to your car back again?
00:03:30.260 I mean, to mass and back again.
00:03:33.260 What is it that could be a risk for spreading the virus?
00:03:36.920 Absolutely.
00:03:38.300 Absolutely.
00:03:39.240 So why isn't this, why aren't the bishops saying to every one of your priests, if you can get this set up, do it.
00:03:45.760 And I'm going to do it.
00:03:46.720 I'm going to do it at the cathedral.
00:03:48.880 So it's that major, major thing that, and as you said, maybe they're planning something.
00:03:55.540 Maybe they are.
00:03:56.180 I hope, I hope, and hope, and hope, and hope they're praying, they're doing something.
00:03:59.600 But why don't they tell us?
00:04:01.220 Why are we out here as if there's some sort of wizard of Oz behind a curtain that's going to produce something magic at the end?
00:04:08.720 Why aren't they talking to us and coming online and saying, you know, I know that your hearts are broken.
00:04:15.860 I know that you have a yearning for this.
00:04:17.820 Well, I'm doing everything I can.
00:04:20.240 We're not hearing that.
00:04:21.580 No.
00:04:21.800 Here are some interesting things.
00:04:23.340 We have beer stores open.
00:04:25.560 We have liquor stores open.
00:04:26.960 In Canada, they have the pot stores open.
00:04:28.860 In many jurisdictions in the United States, abortion facilities continue to run.
00:04:34.640 And yet, because they're all considered essential services.
00:04:38.160 And somehow, they're not considering the holy sacrifice of the mass, the reception of the sacrament of reconciliation, sometimes even for the dying, as essential services.
00:04:48.080 That's just totally bizarre.
00:04:50.820 Well, you know, it really does reveal their thinking that we have to – this gives us an opportunity to combat that thinking.
00:04:56.600 This is what the bishops should be doing.
00:04:58.520 They should be saying, yes, you can suspend sporting events.
00:05:01.260 You can suspend musical concert.
00:05:04.460 You can do that.
00:05:05.520 But religious services aren't that, right?
00:05:07.880 They aren't that.
00:05:09.000 We are on the face of this earth in order to be in an intimate relationship with our Lord.
00:05:14.900 That's the reason we're here.
00:05:16.040 And the sacraments are essential to us sustaining that relationship, right?
00:05:21.640 And we need to let people understand that we don't understand our religion to be just a social gathering with some prayer, right?
00:05:28.920 This is a profoundly meaningful and effective, effective ceremony that brings graces into this world that are necessary for fighting things like the coronavirus.
00:05:40.400 And the man or woman who's dying on their deathbed in the hospital, right?
00:05:44.260 And priests are being denied entry to the hospital.
00:05:48.960 And I want to say this again.
00:05:49.980 This isn't like delivering flowers.
00:05:52.260 This isn't like delivering a teddy bear, right?
00:05:55.560 This is bringing to this person on the last moment of their lives something that they wanted their whole lives at the last moment of their lives.
00:06:03.400 We can equip priests with this personal protective equipment and get them in there.
00:06:09.140 And if hospitals are denying it, the bishops need to be on the phone.
00:06:13.160 They need to be on the phone to the president of the hospital, to the board, to the doctors, any influential person.
00:06:20.040 And saying, you know, this is not, as you said, this is essential.
00:06:24.620 It's not something that we can just say, okay, we'll shrug our shoulders.
00:06:27.900 Or, you know, we hope we can return to normalcy.
00:06:32.280 You say, no, this is not a dispensable thing.
00:06:34.260 Yeah.
00:06:34.540 Surely the liquor stores and beer stores, and we know the abortionists, have argued that their services are essential.
00:06:41.460 Where are our bishops arguing that the religious services, that the mass is essential, that the sacraments are essential?
00:06:47.880 And it's so funny because your request, the request of so many Catholics around the world right now, is not extreme by any means.
00:06:56.120 It's acknowledging the, yes, there is a serious virus out there.
00:07:00.320 It is talking about wearing personal protective equipment, wearing a mask if need be to your church.
00:07:05.520 Now, people are already going into grocery stores without masks or with masks, it doesn't matter, told to stay six feet apart.
00:07:12.260 That's totally doable at mass.
00:07:14.480 Your suggestion you raised earlier about cars in the parking lot, how can it possibly do anything wrong?
00:07:21.920 No one's restricted yet from driving on the street.
00:07:24.360 If it's that bad, then, wow, what are we in?
00:07:26.580 But this is just an absolute necessity.
00:07:30.240 It's an absolute essential.
00:07:32.060 The holy sacrifice of the mass, as Padre Pio once said, it's easier for the world to survive without the sun than without the mass.
00:07:38.400 And here we have an effective shutting down of the mass from the people.
00:07:42.740 I know it's being said privately.
00:07:44.480 But it's just an impossible situation.
00:07:49.700 It's a total agreement.
00:07:51.240 I mean, if they started to shut labs where they're looking for a cure, everybody would scream.
00:08:00.020 They'd say, that's essential to what we're doing.
00:08:01.760 I'd say, well, prayer is essential.
00:08:03.540 This is God's universe.
00:08:05.620 And it's not that we can't pray without the sacraments.
00:08:07.800 We can pray without mass on Sunday.
00:08:09.600 If somehow it could seep through the car door and infect people, well, then we shouldn't go.
00:08:14.540 But we have absolutely no reason to believe that.
00:08:17.580 And so it's, you know, we need to explore every possibility.
00:08:23.260 People, I'm reading all sorts of brilliant ideas.
00:08:25.620 Some of them are brilliantly crazy and some of them are possibilities.
00:08:28.780 And we need to have the bishops say, send them to us.
00:08:32.060 Send us to us every idea that you have about how, you know, the anointing of the sick could be done and how we could have liturgy.
00:08:39.300 And I've seen a picture with a bishop with a monstrance in a pray-do outside of his church, right, doing adoration.
00:08:47.060 And then people driving up in their car and driving by or parking and participating in adoration.
00:08:51.720 And some people say, oh, just watch it on TV.
00:08:54.400 And you want to say, I said, wait, you're still not, you don't understand.
00:08:57.080 I mean, if you could be, I mean, there were 4 million people, I think, which was the biggest gathering in mankind.
00:09:03.360 Maybe there's been another one, but 4 million were in Manila when John Paul II came there to go to mass with him.
00:09:09.740 Now, 4 million people cannot see John Paul II, right, but they're there.
00:09:15.400 And they know that there's a difference being there from being in your house and watching a close-up on TV, right?
00:09:21.700 We're people who believe that we are, our bodies and I are one.
00:09:26.120 And when our bodies are, we are.
00:09:28.420 And that we're more profoundly there.
00:09:30.040 I mean, if you had a Sunday obligation, going to the mass of 4 million would count and sitting in front of the TV with a close-up would not, right?
00:09:38.380 And we are Catholics and we understand this.
00:09:42.400 You know, and I've been singing to people the song from My Fair Lady, I Want to Be on the Street Where You Live.
00:09:49.720 That's how lovers are.
00:09:51.220 Lovers want to be in close proximity to those they love.
00:09:54.740 So it's not the same to watch it on TV.
00:09:58.560 I've greatly enjoyed, much more than I possibly thought I would, watching the liturgy on TV.
00:10:04.720 But if I could get, if right now someone said the mass is going to be down there and you can be down there in your car in 10 minutes, I'm on my way.
00:10:11.160 Absolutely.
00:10:12.340 It's a really neat thing.
00:10:14.360 This talk about lovers, it applies so perfectly.
00:10:19.500 I've been amazed.
00:10:21.080 I've, even going to kneel outside the church, when you know the mass is being offered inside, people might think you're crazy.
00:10:30.580 But you're not.
00:10:32.380 You love the one who's in there and the sacrifice is going on.
00:10:36.740 You can unite yourself to it in a way you're outside a door.
00:10:40.540 But, you know, do you remember when our Lord was telling the Samaritan woman, you know, she was asking for a miracle and he was saying, you know, you're not allowed to have it.
00:10:49.620 It's the food from the table shouldn't be given to the dogs.
00:10:52.280 It's only for the kids.
00:10:53.420 She said, yes, Lord, but even the dogs get the scraps from under the table.
00:10:59.200 In some ways, we feel like that too.
00:11:02.700 We'll take the scraps from outside the door.
00:11:05.180 Our Lord is in there, but we can be at least as close to him as we possibly can through the door or whatnot, but we're still there.
00:11:11.540 Yeah, some nasty person on my Facebook page, whenever I post something, he says, oh, it's just a show of piety.
00:11:19.200 You're just trying to have a show of piety.
00:11:21.680 And I want to say, how do you know that?
00:11:24.060 I mean, if you understood, as you said, there's a beautiful picture of the doors of the Holy Sepulchral Church in Jerusalem, and it's been closed.
00:11:35.900 People can't go in to visit the spot of the nativity.
00:11:39.220 And there's a man sitting on the stoop with his head against the door.
00:11:43.200 And, you know, someone's claiming to me that this is just sensationalism, emotionalism.
00:11:50.040 It's a show of piety.
00:11:52.440 And I want to say, you are so crazy.
00:11:55.100 I mean, we go to sit for hours besides the headstone at the graves of our loved ones.
00:12:01.940 They're not there, right?
00:12:03.840 But we want to be as close as we feel closer there.
00:12:07.220 We feel closer.
00:12:08.260 We're closer to our loved ones.
00:12:09.800 And, again, so they just don't understand.
00:12:12.640 And we have to, that's, our bishops should understand.
00:12:15.520 Our bishops should share this feeling with us.
00:12:17.760 We can understand why the secular world doesn't get it.
00:12:20.300 And this is one of the reasons why the bishops have to stand up for us.
00:12:24.100 They don't have to say, oh, yeah, we understand.
00:12:26.180 We need to cancel everything because these are non-essential services.
00:12:30.480 No, they can't.
00:12:31.880 They have to resist.
00:12:33.080 And not resist to say that we want to break the directives for safety.
00:12:37.820 We want to keep those, but we want to find a way of worshiping that keeps those.
00:12:42.700 Exactly.
00:12:43.240 Let's talk a little bit about the efficacious.
00:12:47.340 You were mentioning that the prayer is effective.
00:12:49.780 Let's talk a little bit about the efficacious nature of prayer, especially the holy sacrifice
00:12:55.160 of the Mass, as it pertains even to a pandemic such as we're experiencing right now.
00:13:02.480 Oh, we think every Mass has infinite value.
00:13:05.900 It brings infinite graces into this world.
00:13:09.420 And that everyone there is offering, Catholics talk about offering our Mass, and we offer
00:13:14.340 it up for different intentions.
00:13:15.820 We say, please pour those graces on this world to help the sick and dying.
00:13:19.880 Please pour those graces on this world to give leaders good judgment.
00:13:23.380 Please pour those graces on this world to help health care workers.
00:13:26.820 To those who are unemployed and are frightened about losing their housing or not having enough
00:13:32.040 food.
00:13:32.300 We have a Savior that performed miracles.
00:13:35.240 He multiplied loaves and fishes.
00:13:36.900 He made the blind see.
00:13:38.060 He made the lame walk.
00:13:39.100 He made the deaf hear.
00:13:40.400 All right?
00:13:41.000 He can do these things.
00:13:42.580 And we understand him to tell us that this is his body and blood.
00:13:46.440 And he is now present among us in a way that is like he were in the room itself.
00:13:54.120 All right?
00:13:54.740 And he's operating those same miracles.
00:13:57.120 So for us not to be doing this is not having access to the very thing that is going to eventually
00:14:03.820 result in a cure.
00:14:06.000 I mean, it's the great...
00:14:07.040 It's...
00:14:07.840 Everything is a matter of grace.
00:14:09.260 Everything.
00:14:09.580 And so all the hospitals we have, all the scientists we have, those are God's gift to
00:14:14.500 us, whether they know they are or not.
00:14:17.040 They often think, no, we're just human institutions who are using our human brilliance to achieve
00:14:22.400 brilliant cures, etc.
00:14:25.020 Well, I mean, many of the Psalms say, I mean, don't put your confidence in the horse.
00:14:29.940 Put your confidence in God.
00:14:31.760 God gave you the horse.
00:14:33.180 God gave you all these gifts.
00:14:34.680 And so we just want to thank God that we're relatively safe.
00:14:39.640 We want to thank him that we're coming up with solutions.
00:14:42.400 And we want to beg for graces.
00:14:45.820 So it is efficacious.
00:14:47.020 And we're not doing the very thing that Jesus gave us in order to bring those graces into
00:14:52.920 this world.
00:14:54.960 Let's talk for a minute about brass tacks.
00:14:58.280 Now, this is hard because there's a lot of bishops who, you know, you've been working
00:15:03.420 on the sexual abuse problem for a long time now.
00:15:06.320 Many of them were reticent to do anything at all, even in the face of horrific situations.
00:15:12.940 So how are you thinking that we can move them at this point to do something in the face of
00:15:19.660 coronavirus, the government telling them not to, fear of lawsuits, fear of whatever they're
00:15:23.760 afraid of?
00:15:24.840 What can we do?
00:15:26.420 What do you think will move them?
00:15:28.000 Honestly, we have to make our voices heard, do our best to make sure that they can't say
00:15:33.640 we didn't know.
00:15:34.860 We didn't know how important this was with you.
00:15:36.680 You never told us.
00:15:37.600 We thought you were doing just fine.
00:15:38.860 We thought you were happy.
00:15:40.300 We have to make our voices known.
00:15:43.040 Again, I don't have a great confidence that the bishops are going to be responsive.
00:15:48.880 But again, I believe in miracles, right?
00:15:50.840 And I guess my hope is this.
00:15:52.500 I hope at least one bishop, and I'm sure there's at least one, who would say, thank
00:15:58.600 you.
00:15:59.420 Thank you for going to all this trouble.
00:16:01.500 Thank you to John Henry Western for going to all this trouble to have this broadcast.
00:16:06.360 Thank you to all these others who are writing stories and doing broadcasts and posting things
00:16:10.200 and doing everything.
00:16:11.600 Thank you, because we need to hear from you.
00:16:13.660 We need to know what you're thinking.
00:16:15.420 And it's hard for us to hear, because we're very busy in meetings, and we've got this protective
00:16:19.200 shell around us, and you make phone calls, and you write letters, and you do this, and
00:16:23.320 the chances that it gets to us are pretty slim.
00:16:26.600 But if you write an open letter that's courteous, and that it's reasonable, and it's trying to
00:16:32.680 work in accord with all parameters of safety, and you get thousands of people, tens of thousands
00:16:38.120 possibly, to sign it, thank you, because we want to know what you need from us.
00:16:42.540 And I'm going to go back to my staff, and I'm going to go through this, and I'm going
00:16:47.280 to look on the internet for other ideas, or have other people look on the internet for
00:16:50.940 ideas, bring them forward, and see what we can do.
00:16:53.840 We didn't know.
00:16:54.760 We didn't know how much you needed to hear from us.
00:16:57.620 We got it.
00:16:58.960 That's what I want.
00:17:00.180 Yeah.
00:17:00.480 I don't want them to say, oh, you adversarial people who are using one more chance to dump
00:17:05.180 on and criticize the bishops.
00:17:06.940 I want to say, that's not what this is.
00:17:08.760 We want our Jesus, all right?
00:17:10.760 And we want to be in his presence.
00:17:12.380 If we can't receive the Eucharist, we want our priests, and I know priests, I have talked
00:17:16.880 to a priest twice now.
00:17:18.500 He was on the verge of tears, because he can't be with his people, and he can't provide the
00:17:23.940 sacraments.
00:17:24.420 And he's doing the best he can, believe me.
00:17:26.460 I read one the other night on Facebook.
00:17:28.860 He took the monstrance and walked all around the parish periphery, blessing the parish, then
00:17:36.120 sending it out to the world.
00:17:38.200 And he said, my heart is broken, that I can't do the things that I, as a priest, am here
00:17:44.620 to do.
00:17:47.020 It's an amazing thing, that feeling.
00:17:49.860 So one of the things that you talked about before, about, oh, it's just a false piety
00:17:55.760 or a false emotionalism.
00:17:57.920 I've wondered about that, because watching the masses, as I have as well, even though
00:18:03.360 I love it, and sometimes you see priests that are just incredible, you never knew even
00:18:07.000 existed, and they're saying the most devout masses, and they're giving homilies that
00:18:10.280 you're wowed and awed by.
00:18:12.480 But there is such a sadness for me.
00:18:14.780 There was a real, sometimes in weeping, kind of a sadness.
00:18:18.060 And I wondered what that was, spoke to my spiritual director about it, and he talked about it not
00:18:23.780 being overly emotional.
00:18:25.600 There is a sense of mourning when you're missing your loved one whom you can't be with, and
00:18:30.860 who means more to you than anything else.
00:18:32.500 So I think that sentiment, that feeling, those tears, those, you know, is a mourning that's
00:18:39.820 good and proper and beneficial for spiritual life.
00:18:43.900 And we somehow have to communicate that to the bishops, as you say.
00:18:48.880 Now, you have launched an open letter to the bishops, which LifeSite has used as well
00:18:55.040 in terms of our petition, doing the same thing, saying the same thing, begging the bishops.
00:18:59.200 Yours is called An Easter People.
00:19:02.200 Can you maybe give the full title of it?
00:19:05.140 We are an Easter People.
00:19:06.760 We are A-N.
00:19:08.140 We are an Easter People.
00:19:09.740 Our grammar is very perfect.
00:19:11.440 We are an Easter People dot com.
00:19:13.840 And this is where there's an open letter to the bishops to ask them to please make available
00:19:23.060 more the sacraments.
00:19:24.240 You're not very specific, but you're basically just asking them, as we've been saying in this
00:19:28.140 video, to make it more available.
00:19:30.860 Do what you can.
00:19:32.340 Yes, use the guidelines of the health guidelines that are being put out there, but please do
00:19:38.520 something, because it really seems we're not getting anything at this point.
00:19:42.140 Well, one thing, people have been sending me good things that some bishops are doing.
00:19:49.620 And one of them is actually in my own diocese, that tomorrow they're having a full day of
00:19:53.860 prayer and fasting.
00:19:55.200 And they're starting with morning prayer at 7.30 in the morning at the cathedral in Lansing.
00:20:00.380 And then they're going to different churches around the diocese to do the Chapel of Divine
00:20:05.280 Mercy, to do Mass, to do evening prayer, to do Lectio Divina for a whole day.
00:20:09.800 It's all online.
00:20:11.300 And I'm thinking, whoa, this is what we need.
00:20:15.280 You know, and this is exactly what we need, is the bishop saying, again, we have other
00:20:21.680 means besides the Mass.
00:20:23.180 The Mass is primary and foremost in everything we can do.
00:20:26.420 But we also have, the Catholics have the most amazing set of things that we can do.
00:20:31.420 The liturgy, the liturgy of the hours.
00:20:33.460 It is a liturgy, all right, pray scripture, you know, pray the rosary, all of these things.
00:20:40.300 And say the bishops want to say, I don't want you to lose your faith during this time.
00:20:43.580 And again, if we can't have Mass, we are going to unleash these graces in many other
00:20:48.180 ways besides Mass.
00:20:49.660 Mass is the most guaranteed, the most straightforward.
00:20:52.260 In fact, all prayer is basically being united with the prayer of the Mass.
00:20:56.120 That's the way it works.
00:20:56.960 But if we can't do the Mass, we're doing all these other prayers that are part of that whole
00:21:02.500 movement towards offering prayer and worship to God, our beloved God.
00:21:11.080 And one of those things about being in person with that I don't want to leave before you
00:21:17.220 address that, the concept of being in person with someone, not so that we can't do confession
00:21:23.920 over the phone.
00:21:24.480 It's not licit.
00:21:25.340 We can't do, normally satisfy your Sunday obligation, unless now we have an indulge for
00:21:32.400 that or whatever.
00:21:33.040 But we can't satisfy it without being there in person.
00:21:37.240 But it's related also to the concept of in persona Christi.
00:21:41.160 Can you explain that?
00:21:42.760 Oh, yes.
00:21:43.440 Well, no lay person can consecrate the Eucharist.
00:21:50.220 No lay person can.
00:21:51.320 This is something only a priest can do.
00:21:52.680 And only a priest can anoint the sick.
00:21:54.160 So the priest is absolutely essential to this.
00:21:57.020 And in persona Christi means that he has been ordained in a certain way to represent God and
00:22:02.580 represent Jesus, to be Jesus.
00:22:05.020 He's in the person of Christ.
00:22:06.860 Christ is in what was the bread and the wine, and he's also present in this sacramental way in the priest himself when he's consecrating the sacrament.
00:22:22.320 So this is not, nothing's substitutable here.
00:22:24.800 We can't substitute anything.
00:22:26.360 We can't get together for a pizza and call it a Eucharist.
00:22:29.480 We can't put an unordained person up there to save mass for us.
00:22:35.440 So other religions don't have so many strictures as we do.
00:22:40.380 And we believe that you were all handed down by Christ, that this was all established by Christ in his church.
00:22:46.500 We're doing what Christ has asked us to do.
00:22:49.840 And so, yes, this is why it's unique for us.
00:22:55.540 We have needs, sacramental needs, that other groups don't, honestly.
00:23:01.020 So let us end this off with your appeal.
00:23:07.780 Why don't you give a direct appeal to the bishops in your own words, just make it to them.
00:23:13.800 And we'll use that, we'll pray with you for that, but also use that so folks out there get the message that they can convey to their own pastors, their own bishops.
00:23:22.680 Yeah, I would like, I suppose I hope that every bishop has watched Pope Francis in his Orby at Orby ceremony.
00:23:31.120 I found it one of the most moving things I've ever experienced in my life.
00:23:34.740 A very frail holy father, missing the lung, obviously impaired in his walking, short of breath when he has to go uphill in a distance, out in the cold rain.
00:23:45.960 And perform this incredible ceremony, which, you know, the bishops can do for us, a Eucharistic ceremony, adoration.
00:23:53.420 And if he has the time to do that, I want them to look at, I am living up to my pastoral responsibilities with my laity.
00:24:02.760 Am I doing that?
00:24:04.300 Am I finding out what they need?
00:24:06.780 Am I asking them what they need?
00:24:08.380 And in this, don't just issue a letter.
00:24:10.840 Don't just have your director of communications issue something.
00:24:14.820 We need you.
00:24:16.900 We need you, our bishops.
00:24:18.140 We need your face on the screen in front of us telling us that how much you know what pain we're in.
00:24:26.480 We know we are patient people.
00:24:28.560 We're people who are willing to sacrifice.
00:24:30.520 We're willing to carry burdens.
00:24:32.340 But we want this opportunity, unique opportunity that Catholicism offers to unleash the graces for the world in this time of the coronavirus.
00:24:41.520 It's not a selfish thing.
00:24:42.620 It's an unselfish thing.
00:24:44.820 Mm-hmm.
00:24:45.840 Amen.
00:24:46.860 Thank you.
00:24:48.540 Well, Dr. Janet Smith, it was always great to be with you.
00:24:52.080 And we pray that this is a very successful campaign.
00:24:56.500 May God bless you.
00:24:58.060 Thank you.
00:24:58.620 And thank you for allowing me a hearing here.
00:25:00.860 It's just great.
00:25:01.560 Thank you.
00:25:02.160 Awesome.
00:25:02.560 Thank you.
00:25:03.280 And God bless all of you.
00:25:04.200 We'll see you next time.
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