Book of Revelation： Is Pope Francis the True Pope or False Prophet？ - Part 2
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In this episode, Fr. Fr. discusses the Pope s relationship with pagan religions and their impact on the Catholic Church, and whether or not Pope Francis is a "False Prophet" or a true Christian. Fr is a Catholic academic, historian, and author. He is the author of the book, and has been a regular contributor to the New York Times, and is a frequent contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Telegraph, and The Globe and Mail.
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I consider John Henry, without being theatrical, as a true son of Mary, a knight of Christ.
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Modern times, I ask everyone to pray with all your hearts for this gentleman,
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for he has indeed a mission which is not ordinary,
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and he is under a cradle of attack to pray for him and for his family.
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This is very concerning for all the Catholics who have been following what's been going on with Pope Francis.
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So with Pope Francis came a scandalous document that they call the Abu Dhabi Declaration,
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which declared the diversity of religions as willed by God.
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Also, that you've seen now Pope Francis, but also various bishops in the United States and cardinals and so on,
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talk about Ramadan, talk about, you know, do engage.
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Even Pope Francis, before he was Pope, engaging in the Jewish ceremonies at Jewish synagogues with rabbis and so on.
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You had Pope Francis with his friendship with the Episcopalian bishop there.
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He wanted to convert to Catholicism, and Francis told him not to.
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So you also have these, even under John Paul II, and actually Paul II before him,
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you had these sort of gatherings of religious leaders all praying together.
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Everyone understood, I think, when John Paul II did it, he's praying for their conversions.
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Certainly doesn't seem that way with Pope Francis also doing the same kind of interreligious gatherings.
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But nonetheless, but then the idolatry thing was huge because the Pachamama was massive with everybody, the whole wide world.
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Watch them actually adore foreheads to the ground, the Pachamama idols.
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And afterwards, they processed the statues, these pagan idols, which he acknowledged as Pachamama, up to him, and he blessed them.
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Then they took them in a canoe and processed them into St. Peter's and put it in the middle of St. Peter's
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and formed a circle around it, the Pope and the Cardinals and priests, and prayed around there.
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Then they put them into another church in Maria Transplantina to put them as idols in the church.
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But nonetheless, in Canada, when he came to Canada, they also engaged in a pagan ceremony with an indigenous shaman
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who asked them to put their, the Cardinals and the Pope, to put their hands on their chests and on their hearts
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to close their eyes while he blew a sacred bone whistle or something from his pagan religion
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and also literally called upon the Western grandmother, a god they believe, to open the door to the sacred circle of spirits
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An obvious pagan ceremony in which the Pope publicly participates with a few of the Cardinals.
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So what you said about this kind of coming together, religions, false laid, is that what we're seeing?
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It begs the question that is Pope Francis perhaps the false prophet or what are we looking at?
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For me, this incident with the Pachamama, John Henry, was for me a fork.
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It was for me evident anymore that I could not agree anymore with Francis as the head of the church, which de facto is.
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Although I spoke with the gentleman who translated my book from English to Spanish, is a professor of canonic law.
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So according to canonic law, according to him, Pope Francis is the head of the church, de facto.
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But in regards to your question, what happened in the Vatican, on Vatican grounds?
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We have to call a color white being white when we see it as such.
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It was nothing less than complicity to idolatry, period.
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If you go into the Wikipedia and check the name Pachamama, you will see it's an Amazonian goddess.
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And we also, in front of our TV screens, these people on all fours are doing in praying the Pachamama
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On the background, you could see Pope Francis smiling ever so benevolently in a very paternal manner
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And as you said, to bring it forth inside St. Peter's Basilica.
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You cannot excuse something that is that radically opposite to the faith of the church.
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In this period of, yes, another Christ has been called, has been forewarned, and we know we are to expect him.
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I, personally, what I see in Pope Francis, as I said, to this day, he has not yet attacked the principal foundation of the church,
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which is the Gospels and the Holy Sacrament of the Ark.
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I think that he's committed that idolatry with the Pachamama,
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and that, indeed, he's committed other great robes, fiducius supplicants.
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He's another example of what he's trying to, and his supporters are trying to bring forth to the Catholic Church,
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I believe that the anti-crack, as I was told, is yet to come.
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And this particular man will be, literally, the leader.
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I think, in retrospective, looking backwards, without any passion, without any emotions,
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that Pope Francis will have a great deal to account for at the time of his demise, of his death.
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But I think what is yet to come is going to be considerably harsher.
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And this is what is yet to come, and it's imminent.
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And I'm referring to this in accordance with what I've heard from some of the parties that I've worked with,
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some of you in France, as well as with some messages of God that are today active.
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We are almost, we must pray for those poor souls that are literally condemning themselves.
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I had an English friend, I don't know if I mentioned this in your show, a friend of mine.
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So, when the Pachamama Instagram took place, told me,
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Oh, you Frenchman, you say that your Pope, your Pope, your Vicar of Christ, has committed idolatry.
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How could you possibly justify such a thing, old boy?
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And I told him, look, if not, I was trying to justify the unjustified.
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And then he told me, well, we Anglicans know better.
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And what's more, you know how we, English and the Anglicans, call you Pope?
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I thought to myself, goodness, what I might answer to that sort of thing.
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Because I would not admit that to an un-Catholic, naturally.
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I will tell you a secret, which you will not repeat.
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Pope Francis is surrounded himself with people that have committed and that are declaring,
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that are sponsoring most anti-Catholic supposed virtues.
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Cardinal Fernandez is a perfect example of this.
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An author of the most theatrical books, now two books, that he's renowned for,
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which are nothing less but pure debauchery and scandal.
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He surrounds himself with the likes of Father James, who supports homosexuality.
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He's falling to the scene of homosexuality that goes against nature and against the law of Christ.
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While at the same time, in the country of the United States, in Texas,
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he fires exemplary bishops of the likes of His Excellency Bishop Strickland.
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However, the temptation to leave the church, to accuse, to rebel against the church,
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But from all the messages I've learned, I've read, I've studied, I wrote about,
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I know that the message of the Virgin Mary is conversion through prayer, trust,
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not losing one's head, not condemning, not falling into the same trap that those
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who are today leading the church by condemning the traditionalists,
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by holding fingers, by trying themselves to be, to show the virtue of charity,
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by accepting everyone, not making them feel bad.
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When true charity, in fact, according to the message of the Virgin Mary,
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is to give those who fall into error, all the instruments that will make them go back
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to the straight path, to the path shown by our Son, Jesus Christ.
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In all her apparitions, six sects, I've come to repeat of some message that I brought forth
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2,000 years ago in an ever so obscure religion Israel called Kana.
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One of the interesting things about your belief, which I think is accurate,
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there's a lot of parts to it because we're just at the doorstep and we haven't really got
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We have to remember our Lord promised us, you know, like you don't have to worry
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when the time comes, I'll give you the words to say.
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I always read in his words also, don't worry when the time comes,
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I will also give you the grace to sustain yourself in the times that come.
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I just read beautiful testimonies from Jimmy Lai and also from another, a pastor who was in jail
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in China, and they're suffering brutally because they actually have guards with them
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all day and all night to make sure they don't pray.
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That's the thing, they don't want them to pray.
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So, I mean, of course, they can pray lying down, you can pray in any fashion you want,
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so you don't always have to be on your knees, although they'd love to, I'm sure.
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But they both testify how Jimmy Lai had no mass because he's incarcerated, no opportunity
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to pray, this pastor as well, but they both testify how they're closer to Jesus now in
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So, that's great hope for me, because, you know, unless you're really tough, like there's
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probably some soldiers out there who think, let the persecution come, I can stand anything.
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If I thought rationally about it, oh gosh, if they go to bend your arm, you're going to
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But if we have the grace to know that Christ is going to be with you, and we can therefore,
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with Christ I can do all things, and that means suffer through whatever.
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That means endure whatever is put upon us, which might mean torture and death or whatever
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it is, but with the grace of Christ we'll be able to do that.
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That's a trust I think we need to have, particularly talking about, ooh, we're just at the start,
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it might get worse, because it's not only a physical torture and suffering and death that
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And a lot of us with kids, I've talked to so many parents who've come up to me and said,
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you know, I remember talking to this one lady, nine kids, she looks to be Arik, and she said
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to me, I have nine children, they're adults, they've all left faith, all left faith.
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And Aaron and her husband are holding their daily mass Catholics, trying to live the faith.
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That kind of suffering is, that's a torture that is, to me, unimaginable, but it's still
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These are good people, these are people who go to daily mass, who offer up all of their
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sacrifice and sufferings in union with the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
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Jesus said in his revelations to St. Paul Sita, prayer was Jesus that entrusted you.
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And having that trust, even in the midst of the absolute, you know, devastation of what's
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going on with their children is so essential today.
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Because of what you say is still to come, it's much worse than what we're already at.
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So, that brings me to the next election, the next conflict.
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Because this sounds like Francis himself isn't the false prophet.
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And if I'm not mistaken, the false prophet is one who will actually point to Antichrist
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So, if Francis is not him, we can then suspect that, because, well, is it for sure that the
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false prophet will be a pope, or is that not clear?
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It's not being said exactly in those terms, but it's evident.
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In regard to, before I go into that, what you just said about family and what is to come,
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However, I do believe, for instance, in this sea of mediocrity we name in.
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There is hope, the message of the Virgin Mary, in orbit around faith and hope.
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So, one example, you, all these people, how Star of Bethlehem, you, Monique Turnbull, Ron
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Ray, Christine Bacon, so many others, Michael Mack, he's a terrific chap, and others.
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There is a resistance, a resistance, and it got right straight on God's lines.
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You are there to give, bring forth the truth, the truth for which God was crucified, Christ
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What's more, in prophecies, with marriage, these and your more mothers, with Calamandar,
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which has not been condemned and still under investigation, family, by the local bishop.
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There is a prophecy informing us about the warning, a moment of extraordinary mercy of our Lord,
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when the time where everyone, no matter the status of the station of life or their faith,
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will be aware of such a notion as a God, that Christ was his son, and that the church
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fathered on Peter is the church of the son of God.
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He will be brief, and with lots of six weeks, there will be massive conversion.
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His hope for me as a father, my son, my children, very much like yours, I am certain,
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are in love with their faith, with Christ, and with the Catholic Church, with Catholic faith.
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There are others, like you said, that have their hearts shattered.
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That's what differentiates us between those who have faith in our true faith and those
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We must completely put stock, unconditionally and blindly, into our faith into Christ.
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If I think of this, and I don't have the authority, but I'm absolutely certain that
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For all those who decide, will free, after listening to your shorts, plural, and to the message
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of the first May, and to the kind that you give them, and my mother has a podcast, if
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they say yes, if they answer yes to this invitation, and we say to this spiritual mobilization
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in this world, we are all in Poland, I assure you that God will respond accordingly, and will
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protect you, and those that you ask protection for.
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When Mary's listening, I know I can be long-winded.
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To Mary's listening, our Lord said, in one instance, those who placed completely and blindly
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and unconditionally entrusted me, forced my hand.
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When they totally, blindly placed entrusted me.
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So that, to me, is the faith, the hope, the hope that God gives us through our faith and
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through the apparitions that he's standing over and over again.
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For some reason, we have to wonder why the Sabbath said again, his Blessed Mother, to bring forth
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Could it be perhaps because the church might have failed to echo that which they were entrusted
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I mean, this is for a lot of people, a big question.
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We are coming, obviously, to the end of the term of Pope Francis.
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Just health-wise, he's been declining, rather, obviously.
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He said at the beginning, he'd probably only be there three or four years.
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And he's been more and more having to give up audiences and so on for hospital trips.
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And the Vatican is, they usually say, oh, it's nothing, nothing.
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A lot of the Vatican watchers are already prepping for a next conclave.
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It's serious because 99 of the 120 electors have been appointed by Pope Francis.
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There is, you know, people think, oh, well, likely a conservative will come in because
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What, we're going to get somebody who is exactly like him or even worse.
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Do the prophecies have any indication that way as to where we are, what we might see,
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All the prophecies that I've studied with, that I wrote about, mention of a future Pope,
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yes, but a Pope that will be an angelic Pope who will be brought forth on the seat of Peter
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when the seat will be emptied temporarily in a time of world conflict, in a time of European
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Now, in regard to the Pope that will follow this one, I would borrow a sentence that
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If the next Pope that do not know who he will be, you're right, by the way.
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And this shows also another discrepancy, a paradox, a contradiction of souls when a head
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of the just tries by all means not to rely on the justice and kindness and goodness of
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the Holy Spirit in the process of election through the conclave, that tries to pose the
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Instituting or placing cardinals carefully, surgically, shows to reach a particular result.
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That shows, it appears to me as a Catholic, lack of faith and a form of manipulation.
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Notwithstanding, God who gets right straight on curved lines.
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If God decides something, those are the words of Father Lorata, if something comes truly
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from God, there's nothing that man or angel can do to stop it from seeing the light obtained.
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So if that happens, it will be permitted, tolerated, up to a point.
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And the one factor, the one point, according to Paris des Jeannines, L'Arcennet, Fatima,
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and other places, including common ongoing apparition cases that I'm working on and I wrote
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about, the one cornerstone, the one point of reference that will make God no longer tolerate
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the infamies of what happens today within our church will be when the Roman Catholic Church
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will institute a new liturgy, which will be right there, the Holy Sacrament of the Altar
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And when the true worshippers, the true believers of Christ and of the dogma of faith, the deposit
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of the faith, will be forced to adore the Holy Sacrament of the Altar in secret, like
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But God must say, and when I say God, in his dogma, in his church, in his Holy Sacraments,
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One of the things that is going on, there's a few references that also, especially with
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regard to Garvandal, which, as you said, while that proved is seemingly favorably under the
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process, also, as you told me on the show before, that Padre Pio believed in very strongly.
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Like, that particular apparition has a lot of interesting timelines for us.
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We just heard recently that the Pope might visit Moscow in June.
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Now, it's still rumored the Vatican tried to say no, but a Russian, from Russia, out of
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But, in addition, I'll get you to explain what that pertains to in a second.
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But also, we know that the warning is to come around the time of a synod.
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At the time when the girls received the message, they didn't know what a synod was.
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And they wondered, are you sure you don't mean a council?
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Well, a synod is going on now, and they've been going on since 2014, when Francis first
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It's already resulted in some pretty big insanity, which gave us Finutia Sublicans.
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The Holy Father, apparently, is to meet in June in Moscow.
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And after the return from Moscow, after the Pope returns to Rome after Moscow, there's
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And then, what do you think, based on that, of what's going on right now, at least with
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With this story, and I know this also from my friends in France, one of which is one of
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The Pope right now in Rome has been trying, since early last year, to initiate diplomatic
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avenues, open diplomatic contact with the Russian embassy in the Rade d'Orta.
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The purpose of this was to try to establish some sort of communication between Ukraine and
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He's been trying to insert himself diplomatically as an intermediate meditator between the parties
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He has felt his trip to Mongolia that took place a few months ago.
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What's made was an attempt, and it appeared a serious one, to meet with an archipatriarch
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of the Orthodox Church in one of the living rooms or salons of the International Airport
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Because we know for a fact from contacts and acquaintances that right now, and for the past
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year or so, year and a half, the Vatican has been under overwhelming diplomatic pressure
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by the heads of states of the European Union and by the Americans not to try to even appear
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as trying to try to open diplomatic avenues with Russia without first ensuring the same
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thing with Ukraine and trying to push him away.
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Because right now, the avenue of peace is not a convenient one for the parties involved.
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He's still trying to, like a soap in a wet hand, to fulfil it himself, to place himself in
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a position which de facto will be forcing him to be recognized as an intermediary between
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Indeed, it seems that although it's a rumor that he's been trying to organize this appointment
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According to what I've heard from Prague's, he's open to the notion, because they themselves,
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if they find something that is acceptable, they will accept to open a dialogue.
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Now, regarding Garamondan, you're absolutely quite right.
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As you mentioned, and I will tell you another secret, which not many people know.
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Fr. Laurentin was quite agnostic about Garamondan.
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The man and I are excellent friends because we came from the same milieu, the same circles
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And I had two of my uncles, John General, to go in 1940.
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And I knew when to cut the conversation out of respect.
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For me, the cornerstone of what made me believe the Garamondan was authentic were two.
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The Catholic Church, first of all, has never condemned it, and they had many chances to do
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Second of all, a mystic, what's more, a calendised mystic, who was a stigmatist, what's more,
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and a world-renowned one, Fatal de Pio, formally approved and recognized and confirmed the authenticity
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He even wrote two letters to the children of Garamondan, one of which had a photo in Italian
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It appeared to be, nevertheless, John Henry, when it's gracious, that if indeed a man who
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has been canonized is truly from God, how could he possibly promote a falsehood?
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So in my point of view, if one thing is true, the other has got automatically to be, and vice
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And if something is false, so would be the other thing.
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I don't know about that, what did not condemn Garamondan, but it was uncertain, it was so
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different from all the other apparition sites he approved, he was pivotal in the approval
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So in regards to this prophecy, you're quite right.
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The Virgin Mary told, consider Marzandis, it was described in a conversation she had with
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her mother in the kitchen of their home, the Santander de Garamondan.
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And they went walking, and she was telling, well, mother, yes, the Virgin told me that the
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first of all, there would be four popes come up to this one.
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And then she corrected herself, and said, no, there would be four.
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But one of them we read for such a small amount of time, they will not count.
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So obviously she referred to Charles Paul I, who lived on in 33 days, and passed away
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I refer to the book of murder of the 33rd degree, and anyway, she continued, she said,
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and after the fourth pope, you know, we will be leaving the end of times, there will be
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a great synod, and it will be a time when the pope will go to Moscow, and that immediately
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On synod, no, you want to mean council, because synods were known only by bishop, it was a very
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But this is exactly what's happening right now.
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And a synod of synodality, if it has proven, besides that ridicule doesn't kill, it's the
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fact that today, a prophecy which has been told is taking place today, as we know.
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And this synod of synodality, let us not forget, either, that a Catholic Church is not a democracy,
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With God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as our King, the best evangelist man
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as the Queen, and the Church as the Priestess of the Church.
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Anyway, in this instance, the prophecy goes that during this moment of synod, there will
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be a pope, indeed, who will go to Moscow, and will come back after an utter failure.
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And at that moment, upon his return to Rome, there will be new military conflicts of utmost
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Now, Glenn Hudson is a friend of mine, this terrific chap.
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He is, indeed, the one party chosen by Conchita Gonzalez to reveal where the title are about
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to take place, as per the instructions that the First Mayor has given to Conchita Gonzalez.
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He is very set in his ways, absolute values, and I respect him.
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He was told that the version made for Conchita Gonzalez, there will be no third world war.
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When this information was given to Hague was in the middle, or at the end of the Euro-Cuban
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I thought one, again, I'm not sorry about that, but it appears to me that it was that message
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was meant for the context of the time, that the third world war would not start as a result
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But if we are to listen to other visionaries, such as La Salette, formerly approved, contrary
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to Garabandal, there will be a third world war, which will end up, among other things,
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Well, there will be a third world war, and possibly that could come from these future military
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events that will take upon the return of the poor on Moscow.
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That is the prophecy given in Garabandal, that the Pope will return from, in this period
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of time of the Synod, in sheer failure, and then new conflicts in Europe will start, according.
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I just want to encourage everyone, I mean, we are living in times of the Revelations, obviously,
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and this is a great book for you to get, to be able to study.
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Xavier is a man of great faith, who has spent his life working for the faith, for the love
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I encourage you very much to get the book, and to pray for Xavier and his great work.
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And if you permit me, I met a great many people who defend the faith on both sides of the Atlantic.
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I met men who claim to be of trying to pretend, others that are absolutely of extraordinary
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I consider John Henry, without being the article, as a true son of Mary, a knight of Christ.
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Modern times, I ask everyone to pray with all your hearts for this gentleman, for he has
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indeed a mission which is not ordinary, and he is under a creative attack to pray for him
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and for his family, and you, my family, you have my friendship, and my support.
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