Canadian professor： I was fired for saying healthy children don't need COVID jabs
Summary
Francis Christian is a Canadian surgeon who served as the Director of Quality and Patient Safety in the Department of Surgery at the University of Saskatchewan. He is also a poet, author, and co-founder of the Morbidity and Mortality App, which is being used throughout the province, even as we speak.
Transcript
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Hello, friends. I've got someone back here who's really special, one of those canceled doctors who
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stood up for truth, who stood up for, really, for faith and freedom in the country of Canada.
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He was a celebrated doctor and surgeon. His name is Dr. Francis Christian.
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Stay tuned to this episode of The John Henry Weston Show.
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And it's very good to be here, John Henry. It's a great privilege to be on your show.
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I have the greatest respect and regard for the great work you're doing for the kingdom of God.
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Praise the Lord. Thank you for that. Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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So, let's just give everybody a quick recap. For those who might not have caught you on our first
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episode of The John Henry Weston Show with you, explain to everybody who you are and what you've
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already gone through. I'm a surgeon, and I was for more than 30 years a surgeon, and I retired
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on the 1st of March 2022, early this year. I was the Director of Quality and Patient Safety
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in the Department of Surgery in the University of Saskatchewan, Professor of Surgery.
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I did things like cancer surgery, trauma surgery. And as part of my job as Director of Quality
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and Patient Safety, I also was responsible for a lot of data-related work, intensive data work.
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I introduced what is called the National Surgical Quality Improvement Program, which is very data
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intensive, lots of data analysis. I co-founded and started the Surgical Humanities Department
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in the University of Saskatchewan, and was the founding editor-in-chief of the Journal of the
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Surgical Humanities, and the Journal now has a worldwide circulation. Interestingly, my app, the
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Morbidity and Mortality app, which I co-developed with the computer department here for iPhone and Android,
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is being used throughout the province, even as we speak. So as part of
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this, I also, I hope I am able to convey to your viewers that I'm also able to analyze data,
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including COVID-related data. I have the qualifications, the background, the statistical
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knowledge, and the data analysis experience to analyze COVID data.
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I'm also a poet. My book of poems, To a Nurse Friend Weeping, was published and released to the
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world by HARP, H-A-R-P, HARP Press, last year. And if your viewers want to find that book, you just have
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to Google, to a nurse friend weeping, Dr. Francis Christian, or just Francis Christian, and you should
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go to the HARP Press website. Now, in 2021, last year, I became aware of the tremendous push to vaccinate
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our kids. And I looked at the data. I had been looking at the data for some time. And none of the
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data was making sense compared to when, when, when compared to the sort of messages we were getting
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from government, the propagation, propaganda arm of government, which is the media and the press,
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and from our public health officers and health authorities. So I had been for several months trying
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to influence the system from within, trying to tell my colleagues, medical students, residents about
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the truth about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the COVID-19 vaccine. And I wasn't making much headway.
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And then this system started rolling out the vaccine to our kids. And that's when I decided
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that kids, since they don't have a voice, we don't, we have to be their voice. And I had a press conference,
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which essentially asked for informed consent, informed consent, essentially being what has
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been understood as informed consent for hundreds of years, knowing the risks of the procedure or
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treatment or therapeutic or vaccine, knowing the benefits or lack of benefits thereof, and any alternatives.
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And so I essentially asked for informed consent in the press conference. And for asking for informed consent,
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I was fired from my directorship of quality and patient safety. I was fired from director of the
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surgical humanities program. I don't know what that had to do with this at all, but I was fired from that too.
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And I was fired also from, I was suspended from my clinical professorship.
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It was considered that I was in some way dangerous for interaction with medical students and residents,
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although all I was asking for is informed consent. So that is the background of what happened to me
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It's what's, what's truly amazing is that you are now doing a lawsuit with the Justice Center.
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But your reasons for doing the lawsuit are truly what's remarkable. If you wouldn't mind getting into
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that, first explain to us a little bit about the lawsuit, where it's at right now, but also your
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The Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms is, for your international viewers, it's a Canadian
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organization of lawyers who are committed to defending freedom, including freedom of speech,
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freedom of conscience, the constitutional rights, charter rights. There's a Canadian Charter of
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rights and freedoms. And essentially what the Justice Center does is it defends those rights for
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Canadians. And the Justice Center lawsuit that was launched in January of this year,
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about exactly a year after I was fired for asking for informed consent, is addressing several aspects of
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these fundamental freedoms, which were violated in my case, including academic freedom, which is a
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function or a function or a child, you might say, of freedom of speech, which in turn depends on the
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fundamental rights associated with freedom itself. So academic freedom, the violation of academic freedom,
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the defamation that, that I was subjected to, including public defamation by health authority figures and so on.
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And my main reason for this lawsuit is not because I'm vindictive. I'm not. I'm not vindictive.
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It's not after the money. A little money would be nice because of the financial hit that I took.
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But it's not the money. The real reason I want this lawsuit to proceed is accountability and defense of those
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values of our Christian civilization that have developed over several hundred years, including free speech,
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freedom of conscience, freedom of conscience, freedom, academic freedom, putting the patient first.
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These are things which are on trial with my lawsuit. And that's the reason I am proceeding with the lawsuit.
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I think this will be a precedence for posterity. And in our common law system, judges look at previous cases to decide future cases.
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And my prayer and hope is that my case will defend those fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech.
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People have gone to martyrdom, to be shot dead, to be hanged, strangled for freedom of speech.
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You know, recently there was the canonization of Archbishop Ramiro of El Salvador.
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What was he doing? He was asking for justice for the poor, for a system that recognizes the rights of the poor.
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And for that, he was assassinated while he was celebrating mass. So freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,
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academic freedom, which stem out of freedom of speech, these are the values for which I'm fighting.
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Beautiful. So this is a, it would be very easy, first of all, for someone to be vindictive,
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to be very angry, to want to get back at those who are crushing your own livelihood,
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you're really defaming you. You should be celebrated for what you've done,
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both in terms of your personal life, but also your professional field is so impressive.
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The program from which you were fired from the university, you actually started, I believe, did you not?
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So a lot of this seems, if it weren't so sad and an unbelievable reality, it would be humorous. But
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what we're going through should be laughable because it makes no sense whatsoever. And yet,
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here we are in Canada and much of the world, all going through this. Your case is particularly
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fascinating because it is so very clear as to how extreme the other side is.
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You are very measured. You speak in very measured tones. Your whole demeanor is one of, you know,
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being kind and generous and loving and just trying your best for the greater part of humanity.
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And yet that's what they're crushing. Any kind of dissent, even well-argued, knowledgeable dissent,
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as you said, your experience in data analysis is probably better than most.
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And even you're not allowed to speak on these things. Because there's an agenda here that's not
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about science. It's about forced obedience. And any kind of opposition, any kind of dissent has to be
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crushed. And that's what they've done. Speak to that, if you would. Yes. I started
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with actually believing the government pandemic back in 2020. The narrative essentially was that
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this is a new virus. We have to all be extremely fearful and locked down. And I, by the grace of
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God, I wasn't fearful, but I thought to myself, you know, this is a new virus, they say, and let's give
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the government a little bit of rope and see what happens. I didn't support the way that some of the
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lockdowns are being implemented and so on. But I said, you know, let's see what happens. And then in a few
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weeks, what did happen was I started recognizing some of the very pertinent and extremely branded
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characterizations of totalitarian dictatorship. So there are there are methods of totalitarian
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dictatorship that I had been studying since I was a teenager. And that's because I read a very
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influential book, John Henry, when I was a teenager. It's called Tortured for Christ. It's about the
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Romanian pastor who spent many years in prison under the Soviet Union. And for me, it became a mission to
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study how the Soviet Union exercised this tremendous control, tyrannical control over its own people.
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And so when the propaganda arm of government, which is the media, started saying misinformation,
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disinformation, they were repeating some of the same things that the tyrannies of the past were doing.
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So my study of the Soviet tyranny showed that this was exactly what was happening. The disinformation,
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the very words disinformation and misinformation are right out of the tyranny's playbooks.
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It was used extensively in the Soviet Union that so-and-so has been arrested because of
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the disinformation that he or she was spreading. And this was bad. This was bad for society, bad for
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the cause, bad for the proletariat and so on. So I started recognizing those patterns. Then I started
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recognizing another pattern, which is censorship. Another characterization of tyrannies, including the Nazi
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tyranny or the Soviet tyranny. And I started recognizing that they were censoring not just
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anybody, but people I had known in my work as experts in the field. For example, this guy, Paul Marek, he now
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works for the FLCCC, the Frontline COVID Critical Care Alliance. But many of us who had anything to do with
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with the ICU, the intensive care unit and intensive care in general, knew of his pioneering work in
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sepsis even before COVID happened. So when they started censoring this guy, then they started
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censoring Pierre Corey, Dr. Pierre Corey, whose book on point-of-care ultrasound is actually being used all
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over the world. So these are experts in the field and they're censoring them too. I then started looking
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at the data and the data actually didn't make any sense at all. And that's when I realized there was some
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other agenda here. And it's not health. It's control. It's control. It's a tyranny that is based on health,
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but it has nothing to do with health. And in my substack, it's a very simple substack to find. It's
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francischristian.substack.com. I have some essays on freedom, on democracy, on freedom of conscience,
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on freedom of speech. And in the essay on democracy, I point out that democracy, in fact, is nice to
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believe in as something that we all live in. But in fact, democracy of the people, by the people,
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for the people, can often be defined in our present-day democracies as of the deceived, by the deceiver,
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and for the deceiver. So it is freedom that we must guard. And freedom is under great threat, even as we
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speak. Just look at what's happening south of the border and what's happening in our own country here,
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with all these new censorship bills that parliament is discussing. People are not allowed to talk about
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anything other than the government narrative. These are characteristics of totalitarian dictatorships.
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In George Orwell's book 1984, there is this thing called newspeak. Newspeak is, it basically denotes
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only what the public is allowed to believe and hear. If they believe and say that they don't believe the
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government narrative, then they're persecuted. And that's exactly what we're living through.
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Absolutely. A couple of fascinating things. One is that you mentioned it was because of your reading of
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Georgetown for Christ, or basically the Soviet means of destroying people.
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It's interesting. There are quite a number of people from Soviet countries who fled to America,
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fled to Europe, fled to Canada to escape communism. And they recognized this so early on as communism,
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as tyranny coming to America, coming to Europe, coming to Canada. But there were so many people,
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so many very, very good people, pro-life activists, and people who we've worked with for years,
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who not only didn't see it, but did all sorts of things to justify it. They went along with the narrative,
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sometimes in ways that were beyond belief, alienating their own families for not getting a
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COVID jab, even though it was abortion tainted. Pro-life activists doing this.
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How? It's one of the most confusing things I've ever seen in my life
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that these folks, the really, really good folks who are awake in the true sense of the word,
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to the word of God, to life and family concerns.
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They were totally taken by this. And in fact, some still are. Any thoughts about that?
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Absolutely. One of the reasons I so admire your show, John Henry, is because you're not afraid to
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speak truth to power, including papal power. And the fact is, you recognize, as few people do
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nowadays, that the head of the church is not a temporal human figure, but Christ himself.
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So, I think this pandemic has been very beneficial to Christians, because we now know who the false
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prophets are. You know, I was astonished when churches said, for example, if you're not vaccinated,
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you can't come into my church. So, I then looked at the gospel and looked at the life of Christ himself,
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and how he actually went out and touched the lepers and made them whole. He actually went and touched
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people who were sick. So, I decided that these churches are following some other Christ, some other
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gospel. It's not the Christ of the Bible. So, I think to answer your question about the way the churches have
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let down their own congregations, I think you can see a pattern developing here, which actually started
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before COVID. And that is the church adapting to the values of the world. In other words, if it's popular,
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the church takes hold of it for one reason or another. And if it's not popular, then the church says
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either that we don't believe in it, or as in the COVID pandemic, they actually are persecuting the people
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who are opposed to this popular government narrative. So, I think it's, in many ways, it's a time of
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time of sifting and winnowing for the church. We now know who the real priests are, the real prophets
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are, and the false prophets are all exposed. In the Soviet tyranny, you know, what I learned
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through my historical studies is that the population in the Soviet tyrannies was divided into three groups.
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One group was, you would say, you and me and many of our colleagues who are fighting this tyranny.
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We have decided, by the grace of God, that we will never submit to totalitarian dictatorship,
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to tyranny, to the loss of freedoms, and so on. This is a small group, and this was a small group in
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the Soviet tyranny. Many of this group were either shot or tortured or put in prison or sent to the
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gulag. Some of them started the Samizdat press, which in Russian means the underground press. In many
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ways, you are part of that Samizdat movement. Now, mind you, no tyranny lasts forever, and every tyranny
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has a defined lifespan. So, when the Soviet empire fell and crumbled, guess what? These great heroes and
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martyrs to freedom, their lights are now shining brighter than ever. So, this is the small group.
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And then there's a large group where people essentially know that what is being told to
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them is all nonsense. They don't really believe the narrative, but they're scared, or for one
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reason or other, you know, they want to go to Mexico, so I want to get the shot, so I might as
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well do it. It doesn't make any sense, but I'll do it anyway. So, that is a large group. And then there's
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another group, which is probably a minority group, but still a large minority, where they actually
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believe they're doing good. This is the most dangerous group of all. You know, there was an old
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Soviet saying, to betray your neighbor is a patriotic duty, but to betray your own family is the highest
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duty of all. So, this group, so three groups. One is the group that will never surrender,
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never surrender their freedoms. Then this large group that says, okay, you know, I don't believe in
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this stuff. It doesn't make any sense, but I have to go along with the tyranny. And then this other group
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that says, actually, I'm doing everything that is good. And unfortunately, doctors, nurses, many
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priests are in that third group. That's exactly what happened in the Soviet tyranny, actually.
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We're just repeating history. It's not a new thing. The heart of man, the prophet Jeremiah said,
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is desperately wicked above all things. Who can know it? And that hasn't changed.
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Yeah. How much, and just, I know it's all speculation, but
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how much at this point do you think there are people of goodwill who are just totally bamboozled?
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And do you think that the cost that they've paid already into alienating their own families?
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So let's say, you know, a member of a family who's alienated members of his family because he went
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along with the narrative. This was true science. If you're saying there's some kind of global
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conspiracy, you're a conspiracy theorist and you need to seek mental health help rather than, you know,
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let's deal with this. This is, you know, a new pandemic like polio was. We got to get these
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vaccines. They've been delivered to us. We should thank God for it. And we should just get on with it.
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They alienated their families. But now that more and more evidence seems to have come out saying,
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first of all, this has escaped the lab. It seems to be manufactured. There are all sorts of helps for
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this rather than the vaccine, which doesn't seem to work at all and perhaps is causing harm.
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All that seems to be coming out now. But a lot of those same folks that were sort of invested by way
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of even alienating their own families, they're still tied to that, to the narrative and unwilling
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to let it go despite all the evidence. I always wonder what holds them there.
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I agree with you. And I'm glad you asked that question and brought that important point up.
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One of the ways in which tyrannies exert control is by fear. So there's a pall of fear that descends
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over the population. And it was the same in the Soviet Union. They would hear of people disappearing
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in the middle of the night. They would hear of people going to the Gulag. A pall of fear would
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descend over the population. And so people would go along with the tyranny. Some people,
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many people actually believed the Soviet lie that socialism was good for you. That if you
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owned nothing, you would be happy. It was a Soviet lie, which is now being repeated by the World
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Economic Forum. So here's what I think, John Henry. The population that is fearful is also able to
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believe almost anything that you tell them. So you're really oppressed by fear, you feel trapped,
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and then somebody comes and tells you, oh, this vaccine is going to give you freedom,
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who is going to allow you to go out and go and enjoy yourself and go to Mexico and so on.
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And then people tend to believe it. Some people, like I said, you know, sincerely believe the lie.
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They're completely deceived by the government propaganda. And then, you know, it's very tragic.
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For example, during this drive to vaccinate kids, which is absolutely abominable.
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Kids don't need the vaccine. If they get COVID, they shake it off really easily. COVID is less of a
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threat to them than a bad flu year. And yet they're pushing it in six-month-old to four-year-olds,
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and six-month-old to 12-year-olds and 18-year-olds, healthy children that don't need this stuff that
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doesn't work, that is dangerous for them and could kill them. So this is a medical emergency
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that we are living under. And that is to protect and save our kids from this unsafe and ineffective
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vaccine. And, you know, for example, during this drive to vaccinate our kids, both parents and
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grandparents and also the children were being traumatized by fear. Like, I know some grandparents
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who said, you know, they were terrified of seeing their grandchildren because, you know, the grandchildren
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said that they were going to give the virus to the grandparent. So I would say that, yes, there are some
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people who are completely fooled with this narrative. But many, many, many more people now are realizing
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that, look, this vaccine doesn't prevent infection, doesn't prevent transmission. We are now learning
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that the third lie, that it prevents hospitalization and death, is also a lie. And so people are waking up.
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Many people are not willing to challenge the tyranny yet, because, you know, like I said, there's this
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large group that says that, oh, it doesn't make any sense, but I'm going along with it. But more people
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are waking up than before. Children, you know, if parents are listening to this, or if mature children
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are listening to this, my message is, you know, don't feel guilty if you make the decision not to vaccinate
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your kid. There's a lot of data backing you. In fact, there's every bit of data shows that
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you should not be vaccinating healthy kids against COVID. Don't feel guilty, don't feel fearful. And
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also, you know, be sure that the science is behind you when you make that decision. Don't feel coerced or
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blackmailed. I say blackmailed because coercion is a form of blackmail. If kids cannot go and join a
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hockey group or a hockey club because they're not vaccinated, that's more than coercion. That's
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a form of blackmail. And so for parents, you know, what is more important? Is it your kids
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belonging to a hockey club or is it their long-term health and wellness? And I would say that health,
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wellness, you know, wins every day over being part of some hockey club, you know.
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We know that the vaccine has short-term side effects, adverse effects,
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effects, including in young people, myocarditis, which can actually kill the child. It has killed
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children and young people. It has, so the vaccine can actually kill the child. It essentially has no
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medium and long-term follow-up studies. So children are our future. And if you really want to know what the
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vaccine does over the medium term, 1 to 2 to 5 years and long-term, 10 to 15, 20 years, then you
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should have long-term studies that show the vaccine is safe and effective. We don't have any of those
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studies. In fact, we're learning every day how much the vaccine is not safe and not effective. And yet
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they're pushing it as if, you know, nothing has changed.
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Absolutely. And I think there's another message as well. It's a message for those who have been
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taken in, who were taken in, who really took the fear to heart, who perhaps were locked up in their
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own homes and the government was holding out the carrot of once everybody's vaccinated, we can let you
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out your older, don't see your grandkids because they could infect you and how horrible will that
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be? Not only for you, for them thinking, oh, they killed grandma and grandpa. If you were taken in by
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this initially and then now have doubts because the vast bunch of evidence coming out, don't feel
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beholden to the lie just because you sort of invested in it. There is the possibility of saying,
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wow is wrong. You might have alienated part of your family because you were wrong on that. You know
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what? They would be so happy to hear you say, I was wrong. I am so sorry I alienated you.
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I was confused. They put all this crap. They lied to us. I never even thought it was possible that the
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government could lie this much to us, but they did. You know what? That alienated part of your family,
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my bet is they would accept you back with tears of joy. They would just be so grateful because it's
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still a minority. You're still being crushed if you stand for freedom, if you stand for truth in science
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against this mob that's coming at us. Don't be afraid. Embrace the truth. Dr. Francis Christian,
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thank you so much for being with us. Thank you so much for what you're doing, for freedom, for truth
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in health, and may God bless you and your case. I hope lots of people support you in it. Thank you, John
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Henry. It was a privilege and pleasure to be on your show. Take care and God bless you too. And God bless all of you.