The John-Henry Westen Show - Canceled priest founder says bishops target clergy who are 'too conservative'

00:00:00.000 all throughout the church. For the past eight years, there has been mayhem. No more so than

00:00:05.380 in the area of cancel culture coming into the church. And it's not that normal cancel culture

00:00:10.880 that we see. It's the most faithful, the most ardent believers in Jesus Christ who are being

00:00:16.560 canceled, who are being shoved out of active priesthood. It's unbelievable and it's happening

00:00:21.980 everywhere. We have whole groups of these priests, not only all over the world, but gathered in

00:00:30.200 America. And there's a group that calls themselves the Canceled Priests Coalition. They're headed up by

00:00:37.120 Father John Lovell, and he's with us today, to hear about them and how you can help them in their

00:00:44.480 priesthood to not only survive, but to thrive because they're actually the backbone of what's

00:00:49.960 going on right now. And they're going to keep us faithful. This is John Henry Weston Show. Stay tuned.

00:01:12.680 Before we begin, let me just remind you that August 17th is coming up very quickly,

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00:01:26.280 We hope to see you in Naples, Florida. Father John Lovell, great to be with you.

00:01:30.540 Thank you, John Henry. Thank you for having me on as we are recording, at least, on your feast day,

00:01:36.600 the Feast of St. Henry.

00:01:38.540 Very good. Thank you, Father. If you wouldn't mind, launch this off with the Son of the Cross. That

00:01:42.980 would be awesome. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Glory be to

00:01:48.020 the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall

00:01:53.360 be, world without end. Amen. St. Henry. Pray for us. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of

00:02:00.800 the Holy Ghost. Amen. Amen. So, Father Lovell, it's quite the time for the Church. It is

00:02:08.580 something that, well, obviously, I've never seen before in my lifetime. I would contend

00:02:14.020 probably the most disturbing time the Church has ever seen, and that says a lot in 2,000

00:02:20.360 year history. But tell us a little bit about yourself to start with.

00:02:25.300 I'm Father John Lovell. I'm a priest of the Diocese of Rockford. I'm originally from Chicago,

00:02:30.400 Illinois. I did study for the Archdiocese for a while, but the college seminary at the time,

00:02:37.160 which is now closed, kicked me out. I was too conservative, and they actually said that.

00:02:42.940 And Cardinal George thought, no, he should continue on the path to priesthood, and so he

00:02:49.840 sent me to the Diocese of Rockford, who at the time was being shepherded by Bishop Thomas

00:02:53.640 G. Doran. Went to Mount St. Mary's Seminary. Got, in my opinion, a very good education, and

00:03:01.380 was ordained in 2007. I've served both as parochial vicar, high school teacher, associate

00:03:07.140 vocation director. I was administrator of a parish for a while, and in 2011, Bishop Doran

00:03:12.980 sent me for further studies at Dominican House of Studies in Washington, D.C. That same academic

00:03:19.140 year, at least, Bishop Malloy was consecrated Bishop of Rockford, and about six weeks after

00:03:25.540 he was made bishop, he removed me from ministry. He tried to suspend me. Rome overturned that

00:03:32.260 immediately, and then he basically withdrew his original decree, and the very next day issued a

00:03:38.680 new decree restricting my ministry in a non-penal, non-judicial way. And when you discover what that

00:03:45.100 means, John Henry, let my canon lawyers know. And so for the last 10 years, we've been fighting

00:03:49.980 both on the local level, but also in Rome to restore my good name, because as you well know,

00:03:55.420 dioceses and priests especially are very public figures. And so when we get removed, a lot of times

00:04:00.600 people think, well, there must have been a reason for that. And I can tell you right now, in the

00:04:05.060 Diocese of Rockford, Bishop Malloy has removed over 12 priests that have no accusation, no allegation

00:04:12.360 against us, and he just simply removed us because we're not yes-men, or we're too orthodox, we're too

00:04:18.600 conservative. And we discovered over the years, I've been out now 10 years, this is my 10th anniversary

00:04:25.300 this month of being out of ministry, that this is a pandemic across the country, that there are

00:04:31.100 priests being canceled. And oftentimes people will say to me, well, isn't it, aren't some canceled

00:04:36.540 priests, isn't it good that they're out of ministry? And I always like to remind people that priests that

00:04:41.220 have done something wrong are not canceled. When they've done something wrong and they've been

00:04:45.640 removed, that's justice.

00:04:47.000 Absolutely. So this is totally fascinating because here you are, you're now heading up,

00:04:54.100 if you will, a kind of group of canceled priests, but most of whom have come along in the last few

00:05:01.040 number of years. But you yourself have already faced this. It's kind of like the pro-life movement

00:05:08.020 when the whole wide world sees cancel culture now. The pro-life movement's been saying, yeah,

00:05:14.400 that for us is pretty normal. And in your case, you've got this long history. So question for

00:05:22.840 you right off the start then. This cancel culture, which comes from a kind of a modernism in the

00:05:32.140 church, it's been around for a long time. You've experienced it so early on. And yet even under

00:05:39.520 under good bishops, that's what's somewhat stunning. How did that happen to you in Chicago when Cardinal

00:05:46.220 George was there? He knew it was his seminary. How come he didn't fix it at the time?

00:05:52.280 You know, that's an excellent question. As many people know, but maybe not every listener,

00:05:57.060 Cardinal George came from academia. I mean, he was a professor and he had doctorates both in

00:06:03.000 philosophy and theology. Many thought that he would replace Ratzinger as head of the CDF when

00:06:09.740 he was made, when Pope Benedict was made Pope. But Cardinal George had the ability to turn Mundelein

00:06:17.480 seminary and the college seminary at the time, which was still up and running, into a powerhouse of

00:06:23.100 academia. And I think he thought that the Chicago machine, it's not only in politics that there's a

00:06:30.220 Chicago machine, but it's also in the diocese in the church of Chicago, was just too strong. And so

00:06:36.980 while he did a lot of good reforms at the seminary at Mundelein and brought in some very good people

00:06:42.640 and very good professors, some of them who are still there, he did not want to challenge that

00:06:48.680 machine. And we see that especially in Father Flager and in others across the archdiocese. But I think he

00:06:55.480 decided to pick his battles. And I think he decided that sometimes it's best not to die on a certain

00:07:01.220 hill. And, you know, in hindsight, we could say that perhaps he made the wrong decisions. I can tell you

00:07:09.180 this right now, I am fortunate that I'm no longer in the Archdiocese of Chicago because of the current

00:07:15.000 Archbishop running it.

00:07:16.020 So, yeah. Well, Cardinal Cupich kind of fits right in with Father Flager and all of this insanity that's

00:07:26.560 going on in the church to understand that there are the likes of Father Flager. If you don't know

00:07:32.360 who he is, look him up on LifeSite News. Father James Martin, all of these priests who, under JP2,

00:07:39.960 let's say, would have been regarded as heretical or so far out there as to be not even Catholic at

00:07:46.500 all, they're mainstream. They're not only mainstream in terms of Father James Martin. It's unreal. He's

00:07:54.460 hoisted up to the Vatican, personal audiences with the Pope on pontifical councils, even getting dubia

00:08:02.080 answered by the Pope. And yet so many of you good holy priests are being cancelled, removed from

00:08:09.300 ministry. It's an unbelievable situation. What do you get from the priests who have experienced this,

00:08:16.560 the ones that are truly cancelled priests, the ones who are faithful? Walk us through, if you will,

00:08:23.740 your experience with them. What did they experience when they get cancelled and how do they deal with it?

00:08:31.360 I think first and foremost is shock. Just an hour ago, I was speaking to a priest who was in the

00:08:37.040 process of being cancelled. And he told me, he says he's suffering from post-traumatic stress. And

00:08:44.440 that's what I think happens to many of us, because we just kind of go into shock. They cut our pay.

00:08:50.320 Sometimes they don't give us any pay. They cut off our insurance, possibly. This is what's happening

00:08:56.140 across the board. And a lot of times, priests, especially Orthodox priests, want to try to be

00:09:02.160 obedient and want to try to listen and try to work this out, either with the bishop or with Rome in

00:09:09.600 the appeal. And what's sad is, is that what I discovered over the 10 years of battling this

00:09:15.700 is that Rome does not want to interfere with the bishop unless he's doing something gravely wrong

00:09:22.900 or financially wrong. He will not, they will not necessarily interfere. In fact, with my case,

00:09:28.440 Rome basically said, well, a bishop can remove a priest for any reason or for no reason at all,

00:09:33.720 but it can only be temporary. But then they never said what temporary is. And so I'm going on 10 years

00:09:39.640 now. I'll be 42 years old next week. And I've spent pretty much all of my 30s and now going into my 40s

00:09:47.180 out of ministry. And this is not what the people of God paid for. You know, the people of God paid for

00:09:52.760 these priests to go to seminary, which is not cheap. And when we get kicked out, what I've noticed is

00:09:58.900 that they want to trust the system. They want to work with the system. And then they come to discover

00:10:03.480 that the system is really going against them. The bishop does not care. And so I often have to tell

00:10:08.040 priests, do not go see the bishop by himself. If he has counsel present, you have counsel present. If he has a

00:10:15.040 canon lawyer present, you have a canon lawyer present. I said, be nice, be charitable, be respectful,

00:10:20.980 but realize that as a priest, you have rights, especially as a diocesan priest, which is

00:10:25.500 completely different than a religious priest who took a vow of obedience. I took a promise of

00:10:30.780 obedience to be a coworker with my bishop, not to be an underling, not to be a Jesuit novice while he's

00:10:36.500 acting as a Jesuit superior, is that we're supposed to be coworkers working together. And so I often tell

00:10:42.080 priests, we're here for you to make sure that you're able to pay for your canon lawyer. You're able to pay for

00:10:46.860 your attorney, that you have a place to live if you need a place to live, that you have money to buy

00:10:52.720 food, that you don't have to worry if you have to go to the doctor. These are the things that the

00:10:57.020 Coalition for Canceled Priests strives to do day in and day out. I want to mention too, LifeSite News

00:11:04.260 is doing a life funder, our form of a kind of a GoFundMe, a crowdfunding platform. And we put that up

00:11:11.660 basically because there's lots of places that get cancelled by GoFundMe. And so we started LifeFunder.

00:11:17.680 We have initiated a life funder for the Canceled Priests Coalition. So please go to LifeFunder.com

00:11:24.080 and search for the Canceled Priests LifeFunder and you'll find it there. You'll be able to support

00:11:30.160 Father Lovell and all the great work he's doing for all of these priests. So Father, we're dealing with

00:11:37.500 this in the church right now in a big way. What happened to you 10 years ago is now actually

00:11:43.760 getting more frequent. What have you seen in the United States going on on this? And have you

00:11:49.860 communed with any of the other communities of Canceled Priests in the larger world? 0.95

00:11:55.480 Yeah, I want to say first, John Henry, that there's probably hundreds if not thousands of

00:12:00.240 Canceled Priests across the country. We're helping right now about 40 priests across the country and

00:12:05.840 the world. We don't have too many international right now. But I'm a little surprised that it's

00:12:10.300 so low in numbers that we're only hoping 40 right now in this last year since we were only one year

00:12:16.880 old. But I will tell you this is that many priests, again, they're in that shock and they don't know

00:12:22.960 where to turn. They don't know. I mean, they don't know us from Adam. And so they're concerned, you know,

00:12:26.780 do I trust these people? What are they trying to do? And my message to them is yes. I mean,

00:12:32.120 you know, we're here to help you to make sure that you have a place to live, that you have money to

00:12:38.060 eat. And so often what I find is when I speak to these Canceled Priests is that they're just saddened

00:12:45.360 by how they're treated because their bishop is no longer treating them as a spiritual son. It's no

00:12:51.000 longer a father-son relationship. It's an adversarial relationship where the bishop sees

00:12:56.980 his priests as a potential lawsuit. And it's sad to say whether they fall on the liberal or

00:13:02.600 conservative spectrum, most bishops are like this. They listen to their attorneys before they listen

00:13:07.620 to their priests. This is what we've discovered since Dallas 20 years ago, is that the bishops are

00:13:13.600 more concerned about avoiding a lawsuit than being charitable and doing what is right. And I hate

00:13:18.660 saying that. Okay. I want to be a loyal son to my spiritual father, who is the successor of the

00:13:25.980 apostles. All right. I want the bishop to be a bishop. And so oftentimes people will say to me,

00:13:31.540 well, you're just out there bashing the bishops. I say, no, we are protecting priests. Now, if we

00:13:36.500 indirectly, indirectly criticize a bishop, it is just simply because that bishops need to realize that

00:13:43.420 they do not have carte blanche control over the funds that are given to them by the people. And

00:13:49.680 they don't have carte blanche control over the priests. Now, sometimes it might seem like that.

00:13:54.540 And so what I've noticed, especially in the last couple of years, since the summer of shame, as it's

00:13:58.620 been now known as in 2018, when Theodore McCarrick was exposed, is that many of the laity are just getting

00:14:05.160 fed up. You know, they realize that many of these bishops covered for McCarrick and for others,

00:14:10.000 and that there was a homosexual network going on, not just in the clergy, meaning the presbyterates,

00:14:16.220 but also in the episcopacy itself. And this was a serious problem. And I think people were also fed up

00:14:22.380 at the poor response. And again, this is all the bishops of the United States and Canada

00:14:27.220 that basically shut down all the churches during COVID. It's one thing to say, look, we're going to

00:14:34.560 not require you to come to mass on Sundays. Okay, we're going to dispense you from that.

00:14:40.380 So another thing, though, to lock the doors, and this is what's happening here in Chicago,

00:14:44.060 they were literally locking the doors of the church, not allowing people to even enter

00:14:48.020 and visit our Lord. And then when they started up again, these silly things like you have to

00:14:53.080 receive communion on the hand, and even trying to tell traditional Latin mass communities,

00:14:57.780 you have to receive communion on the hand. I have a very good friend, not 30 minutes from here,

00:15:02.120 he's a fraternity priest. And he basically said, all right, my people are not going to receive

00:15:07.340 on the hand. So he basically celebrated mass with this congregation. And he was the only one

00:15:12.320 that received communion. And so what I think what you're seeing is, is that the laity, whether they

00:15:16.280 go to a Novostoro church or to a traditional parish, is they're just fed up. They're just fed up

00:15:21.300 with what's going on. They're fed up with giving their money to these dioceses that are using it to

00:15:26.340 to help fund Democrat Party initiatives, and they're just tired of it.

00:15:32.420 How does a priest who is canceled continue to live out their ministry? They've been charged by Christ

00:15:40.900 with this ministry, as have you. What ways do canceled priests still remain active?

00:15:48.700 First and foremost, and I always tell priests this, especially if they get down and out,

00:15:55.140 continue celebrating mass. The greatest thing that priests do, whether he has a thousand people at

00:15:59.880 mass, or if he's just there alone by himself celebrating mass, is that offering up the

00:16:05.700 sacrifice of the mass daily is the most important thing that a priest does. And then the next thing

00:16:12.280 is, and again, this is the reason we have the coalition, make sure you have fraternity with other

00:16:16.580 priests. If they're active priests that are supporting you, great. If they're other canceled

00:16:21.360 priests, great. Get together. Have a meal together. Break bread. You know, one thing that the coalition

00:16:26.260 tries to do every year, we've only done it once so far, but we're hoping to do it every year,

00:16:32.980 is have a retreat so that canceled priests can come together. There could be fraternity,

00:16:37.420 and that is the most important thing. I always tell priests, stick with the bravery. You know,

00:16:42.100 that is so important to keep praying. Yes, you're suffering in silence sometimes,

00:16:47.020 but sometimes those are the most important things. And I always want to tell, especially

00:16:50.660 the listeners here, you know, when a priest is removed, and I'm not technically suspended,

00:16:56.060 as I said at the beginning, I'm restricted in a non-penal, non-judicial way, whatever that means,

00:17:01.760 is that people have to realize that for a priest not to be able to hear confessions,

00:17:07.140 for a priest not to be able to preach, okay, is tantamount to a husband being denied being with

00:17:15.500 his wife. You know, you can't do that and have a healthy relationship, okay? A man and a wife might 1.00

00:17:21.340 love each other, but if you separate them and say, you can't speak to each other, you can't see each

00:17:24.880 other, after a while, that is going to have an effect on that relationship. No matter how strong

00:17:30.880 a relationship they have, no matter how much they love them, if you separate them and segregate them

00:17:36.140 and not allow them to speak to each other, that's going to hurt the marriage. And this is what's

00:17:39.500 happening with these priests. So we want to make sure that we give them all the necessary means

00:17:45.720 that they can have a fruitful life, even if they can't hear confessions, even if they can't preach

00:17:49.840 right now, and hoping one day that they will be able to do that. Absolutely. There's a really hard

00:17:55.980 question, Father, that feel free to pass on it if you wish, but I just interviewed a couple weeks

00:18:01.800 ago. A priest, also cancelled priest, he was a member of Opus Dei. He's actually way out in Western

00:18:09.260 Africa. And he tells me he was cancelled not only from any public ministry, so can't hear confession,

00:18:19.640 can't say public mass, therefore can't preach. He was also told he couldn't celebrate a mass

00:18:24.520 privately, even by himself. Can that be done? No, it cannot. Now, some canon lawyers I've asked

00:18:33.440 this have said that they can stipulate that you can't celebrate a private mass. Others have said,

00:18:40.140 no, that is incorrect. We are in contact with that father in Western Africa. It seems like a great

00:18:48.720 priest. We do have a little bit of a divide because we don't have anybody in our organization that speaks

00:18:53.760 French. And I recall watching him on your show thinking, he's doing a very good job with English.

00:19:01.160 And he said it at the beginning that, you know, please forgive him for any mistakes that he might

00:19:04.740 make. And, but I always tell priests, they can't stop you from celebrating mass unless you've done

00:19:10.040 something seriously wrong. But even then, why would you stop a priest from celebrating mass?

00:19:16.680 Absolutely. We're never by ourselves. We have the angels and the saints with us. You know, so I always

00:19:21.500 tell priests, you're celebrating mass, continue to offer that sacrifice that has been given to you

00:19:28.100 by God. We don't have the right as priests to celebrate the mass, but we do have the duty to

00:19:33.800 celebrate mass. That's what I like to always tell people. So we are sinners just like everybody else,

00:19:39.800 but what God has entrusted to our hands, and that's why they are anointed, is so important that

00:19:45.780 we have to keep doing that. And one thing that I said to many of my canceled priest brethren,

00:19:50.120 this is right as COVID was starting, I said, look, they're canceling all these masses in these 0.99

00:19:55.240 parishes. We got to double up on masses that we say. And I told them, you know, you might have a

00:20:00.060 canonist, you might have a bishop who say, well, you can't buy Nate, you can't try Nate, you know,

00:20:04.400 celebrating two or three masses in one day. And I said, you know what, it's getting so bad. They're

00:20:09.300 cutting off so many masses right now. We have to double up to make up for all those spiritual graces

00:20:14.660 that are being lost. Absolutely. So Father, I want to go back to where we started with,

00:20:20.780 and that was that you were canceled for no good reason, and your distinction between what a

00:20:28.460 canceled priest is compared to those who are in justice, removed, and sanctioned. Because canceled

00:20:35.640 is being canceled for doing the right thing and doing nothing wrong. Can you give us some examples of

00:20:42.340 why priests are getting canceled? What is the sort of presenting reason that it comes with? And,

00:20:49.400 you know, how are they trying to fight? Well, I can tell you this, personally,

00:20:54.960 the vicar general and the vicar of clergy at the time in the Diocese of Rockford back in 2010,

00:21:00.820 this is two years before Malloy came, started to harass me, calling me in saying, well, you're

00:21:05.880 arrogant, you're not pastoral enough, we want to send you for psychological evaluation. And what I

00:21:11.400 noticed that this started to happen shortly after I was a whistleblower at the high school I was

00:21:17.600 teaching at. I had a young woman who was a student at the high school approached me saying that she

00:21:24.440 was being inappropriately touched by a lay woman teacher at the school. And in Illinois, as it is

00:21:31.460 in most places, I'm obligated to report that. They were not happy that I reported that. And they,

00:21:37.980 while on the outside acted like I did the right thing, they started to really persecute you. They

00:21:44.420 moved me, they gave me to a really liberal pastor, who, you know, was stuck in the 1970s.

00:21:51.400 They increased my workload, I was doing three jobs, I was a parochial vicar, I was teaching in the high

00:21:57.160 school, I was also the associate vocation director, answering to three bosses, all of whom didn't

00:22:02.460 understand why I was not giving them my full and undivided attention. And then, you know, they were

00:22:07.900 criticizing, well, Father Love was supposed to be doing this, Father Love was supposed to be doing

00:22:11.240 that. And so they just started to go after me then. And so a lot of times people are being removed,

00:22:18.800 yes, because they want the traditional mass, the priests, so they get removed for that. But many times

00:22:24.060 it's because they're standing up for the truth, they're being a whistleblower, they're preaching on

00:22:28.220 contraception, they're preaching on the evils of abortion. And a Karen or Susan in the parish, you know, 0.80

00:22:35.400 calls up the diocese and starts complaining. I know one priest, he's still surprisingly in active

00:22:40.540 ministry, he said, the chancery can receive a hundred letters about me, 99 of them are good. But that one

00:22:48.400 letter, they'll call me in and ask me about it. That one negative letter from a parishioner, not even

00:22:55.060 telling me that they received 99 other letters of praise. And that's how they operate, you know.

00:23:01.120 And it's a double standard that we see. You know, you have another podcast with Father James Altman

00:23:07.980 in his diocese, he was removed. And again, not suspended, but removed in a non-penal, non-judicial

00:23:15.240 way. And then you had Monsignor Burrell, same summer, last summer, removed. He's now back in the

00:23:20.760 ministry. And some have to ask, why is that? You know, there's clearly a double standard here.

00:23:26.260 And this is why so many of the canceled priests are conservative and orthodox. And by the way,

00:23:31.100 I would like listeners to know that we support only priests that affirm the faith and magisterium

00:23:39.440 of the church, plain and simple. They have to sign a document, so do all of our employees,

00:23:44.000 all of our volunteers, that they affirm the tenets of the faith, plain and simple. So,

00:23:49.280 sorry, Father Martins, if you get removed from ministry, we probably are not going to be able

00:23:54.980 to help you. That's great, Father. So finally, what can people do? Not only, I know, because I've

00:24:01.820 already encouraged people, and I encourage you, please, out there, go to lifefunder.com,

00:24:06.740 get on to the Cancel Priests Life Funder and support their work. As you can see, it's amazing.

00:24:11.540 But two questions, Father. What else can people do for you? But also, what can the faithful do

00:24:18.660 if they have a canceled priest or a priest who's really faithful? Is it good for them to write

00:24:24.380 their bishops one of those letters of praise for their priest? What would you suggest?

00:24:29.260 I always think it is a very good thing psychologically to put your thoughts to paper and to just express

00:24:37.300 in writing why you love this priest, this canceled priest that you're supporting, and send it to the

00:24:43.280 bishop. I always tell people, be polite, be respectful, try to keep it to a page. Bishops don't

00:24:49.500 have the longest attention spans, I've noticed. And so, keep it to a page. Just keep it very simple

00:24:56.340 of how much you love them. Obviously, do that. I always tell people the most important thing you can

00:25:01.920 do is to fast and to pray. That is very important, not just for priests to do, but for the laity. We

00:25:07.540 need to get back to a sense of fasting. And when it comes to helping canceled priests across the

00:25:14.240 country, please go to canceledpriests.org. That's canceled with one L. Priests is plural.org,

00:25:21.100 canceledpriests.org. And you can see how you can help support us, not just with the Life Funder,

00:25:26.900 but with the many initiatives that we have going on. You know, John Henry, one thing that we're doing

00:25:31.020 right now is we're trying to raise money to buy an old Franciscan friary in northwest Indiana so that

00:25:37.340 priests can have a safe house, can have a house of prayer. And we're hoping to restore it because so

00:25:42.100 many, especially here in Illinois and the Midwest, so many of our beautiful churches, beautiful monasteries

00:25:48.420 and friaries are just being shut down and torn down that we're trying to stop that and just preserve

00:25:53.540 our Catholic heritage. So, please go to canceledpriests.org for more information.

00:26:01.980 That's awesome, Father. On behalf of all of LifeSite News, I want to thank you for what you're doing,

00:26:06.840 for standing for the truth, for helping out these shepherds of ours who are being persecuted.

00:26:16.020 And God bless you.

00:26:18.100 Thank you so much, John Henry. Looking forward to meeting you finally in person in August in Naples

00:26:23.580 at the LifeSite event. And thank you for the support that LifeSite has given us this last year

00:26:28.480 and for the amazing apostolate that you have. God bless.

00:26:31.940 Thank you, Father. And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - July 19, 2022

Canceled priest founder says bishops target clergy who are 'too conservative'

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