The John-Henry Westen Show - Catholic author exposes toxic femininity...and its cure

00:00:00.100 Have you ever wondered how to square feminism with Catholicism, or been part of trying to

00:00:06.560 find a good side of feminism to praise and try to distinguish it from bad pro-abortion

00:00:12.060 feminism? 1.00

00:00:13.480 Don't you wish there was a different way of speaking about women, the role of women 0.58

00:00:17.120 in culture?

00:00:19.420 Well, there is a fascinating conceptualization of this in a book called The Anti-Mary Exposed,

00:00:26.460 Rescuing the Culture from Toxic Femininity.

00:00:30.000 When the book first came out a couple years ago, I missed it.

00:00:34.060 But there was a recent controversy over the book which sparked interest because the book

00:00:39.080 just recently became a target of cancel culture.

00:00:42.620 We have with us today the author of the intriguing and apparently very controversial book, Dr.

00:00:48.900 Cary Grass.

00:00:50.160 This is The John Henry Weston Show.

00:00:52.080 Stay tuned.

00:00:59.200 Dr. Cary Grass, welcome to the program.

00:01:13.880 Thank you so much for having me today.

00:01:15.860 Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.

00:01:18.580 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

00:01:21.700 Amen.

00:01:24.340 In the intro, I mentioned how your book, already a couple years old, but a book that's very

00:01:29.960 controversial indeed, especially right after the Biden inauguration, has been the subject

00:01:35.040 of some cancel culture.

00:01:36.840 The book is called The Anti-Mary Exposed, Rescuing the Culture from Toxic Femininity.

00:01:43.840 We're going to get into all of that.

00:01:45.760 But first of all, tell us about this canceling of your book right after the Biden inauguration.

00:01:51.880 Yeah, well, it was a Sunday afternoon right after the inauguration, and I got a notification

00:01:56.160 from a bookseller that informed me that they couldn't post the book online to sell it than

00:02:01.600 they had before.

00:02:02.700 They couldn't figure out what was going on.

00:02:04.520 They thought it was censorship.

00:02:06.240 And I was sort of hesitant.

00:02:07.820 I was like, what's going on?

00:02:08.520 Because they got a message saying it didn't fit with community standards or whatever.

00:02:14.480 And again, it's a two-year-old book.

00:02:16.740 So I thought, well, maybe it's a glitch.

00:02:18.060 I'm not sure.

00:02:19.140 And then they tried to post it to Instagram and got the exact same message.

00:02:22.920 So I thought, OK, they're obviously owned by the same people.

00:02:25.240 There's something systemic going on here.

00:02:27.980 I put it on Facebook and on Instagram that this was happening, and people just were incredibly

00:02:33.060 supportive and went out and bought the book.

00:02:35.880 It shot up to 242 on Amazon's list, and it was number one in feminist theory, which was 0.83

00:02:42.940 it's always so gratifying to see it anywhere near the top of feminist theory, because it's 1.00

00:02:46.540 sitting next to books called I Hate Men and all these just awful books.

00:02:52.380 So anyway, then Amazon sold out of it, and they actually stopped selling it.

00:02:58.880 Those buttons that they have where you can still purchase it, and it says will be available

00:03:03.080 on May 13th or whatever.

00:03:04.800 That was just taken down.

00:03:06.720 So you could only buy it from a third-party seller, even though we know the publisher had

00:03:10.800 already received an order for them, and we kept saying, can you put these back up?

00:03:14.500 And so Amazon would put the buttons back up, and then they would come back down again within 1.00

00:03:18.340 an hour.

00:03:19.700 So the book just plateaued at 242 and couldn't go any higher at that point because you're

00:03:25.540 not going to get ratings or rankings for a book that's not selling.

00:03:28.480 So anyway, it was really interesting to see how that played out.

00:03:31.320 So you've got a two-year-old book, it's the week Biden is inaugurated, and it's a book

00:03:36.480 on toxic femininity.

00:03:38.320 So it was kind of this perfect storm of a book to be targeted.

00:03:42.940 So anyway, we'll see how it goes from here on out.

00:03:45.820 Amazon has since put the buttons back the week later, and it's still for sale there, unlike

00:03:53.120 others.

00:03:53.800 But yeah, we'll see how it plays out over the coming year for sure.

00:03:58.100 Well, the great part about all that is that it must be something to be revisited.

00:04:02.800 So the good Lord sees to foil the plans of the evil one.

00:04:06.800 And, you know, the powers that be at Amazon might not like a lot of things, and I think

00:04:10.840 felt really empowered with the Biden administration coming in.

00:04:15.100 That's when we started getting warnings about our YouTube channel, and then we're eventually

00:04:18.680 kicked off completely.

00:04:19.740 Facebook cracking down on us, everything else.

00:04:22.340 So let's examine the book.

00:04:24.160 I love the concept.

00:04:26.260 The title is amazing.

00:04:27.900 The concept of the anti-Mary being really toxic feminism today.

00:04:34.240 So tell us about the concept.

00:04:36.320 Well, it actually came to me when I was writing my book, The Marianne Option, and I was looking,

00:04:41.180 it was actually during the election for Hillary Clinton against Trump.

00:04:45.700 And I was looking at Hillary Clinton and looking at how powerful of a woman she was going to 0.99

00:04:51.180 be in the culture.

00:04:52.580 But simultaneously, I'm reading about Our Lady and how she, you know, even National Geographic

00:04:56.500 has called her the most powerful woman in the world. 0.99

00:04:59.960 And I thought, you know, these two things do not look the same.

00:05:03.780 You know, there's something very, very different about Hillary Clinton than about Our Lady. 1.00

00:05:07.820 And not, you know, it's not just that Hillary is sort of slightly different, but she's,

00:05:12.040 everything that she stands for is diametrically opposed to who Our Lady is.

00:05:15.720 And so that got me really thinking about the culture and seeing just the direction that

00:05:20.400 women had gone in. 0.84

00:05:21.640 So I have a chapter in that book called, Are We Living in the Age of Mary or the Anti-Mary?

00:05:26.000 And from there, the publisher said, you know, can you just do a book on this topic?

00:05:30.480 And I thought, sure, I can try.

00:05:32.600 And so, you know, we signed the contract and then I sort of panicked, like, I hope there's

00:05:37.080 enough information.

00:05:38.020 Like, what am I just grasping at straws here?

00:05:39.920 And then I got started on the research and it was like a fire hose of information.

00:05:45.880 It was just amazing how overwhelmed I was.

00:05:48.900 You know, it's one of these things a friend of mine that read the book early on, right

00:05:52.520 after it was published, said, you know, you can't unsee the anti-Mary.

00:05:55.920 Once you sort of see it in the culture, it's just so obvious and so evident.

00:05:59.880 And, you know, that's what I found in my research was just to see, you know, how many awful

00:06:05.600 things and awful representations and distortions of womanhood there are out there.

00:06:09.920 That we're being sold day in and day out and being told this is really what womanhood

00:06:13.460 is all about.

00:06:14.620 So that was really the idea behind it.

00:06:18.540 And, you know, it just ended up becoming a whole book, obviously.

00:06:22.320 But the first half really focuses on this idea of the anti-Mary.

00:06:25.740 And then the second half looks at who Our Lady is and why we have great hope in her and

00:06:30.540 why she should be this model of femininity for all women. 0.97

00:06:33.700 So what are some of the ways you suggest to fight sort of the anti-Mary culture that we're

00:06:41.060 experiencing today?

00:06:42.140 You know, it seems like every time I write a book, it leads to another book.

00:06:45.780 And I've been kind of amazed at how, you know, one response that we could have is to really

00:06:50.740 try and retaliate.

00:06:52.360 And I think that what ends up happening there is we get angry and we end up looking a lot

00:06:57.080 more like the anti-Mary than like Our Lady.

00:06:59.800 And I've also was intrigued by the fact that I saw just how the culture was taken down.

00:07:05.840 You have things like magazines.

00:07:07.720 You've got Oprah Winfrey.

00:07:08.760 You've got all of these very saccharine, lovely magazines and fashion and, you know, all these

00:07:14.620 things that women love. 0.81

00:07:16.200 And yet all of them were just laced with Marxism or with just, you know, distortions of sexuality

00:07:23.340 or with the occult.

00:07:25.100 And that's how the culture has been like they seem very innocuous.

00:07:28.880 But if you look at the layers there, even Cosmo magazine was really set up to be just the

00:07:33.880 female version of Playboy. 1.00

00:07:36.800 These are the ways in which women have really been, you know, confused and deluded and led 1.00

00:07:43.880 astray.

00:07:45.460 And it's interesting to even see, you know, they're not reading Marx or they're not reading

00:07:49.720 Margaret Sanger, but these are the ideas that we have sort of picked up through the ether

00:07:54.860 of the culture.

00:07:56.240 So that's really led me to do this work with Theology of Home.

00:07:59.840 I've published two books now.

00:08:01.040 We're working on a third on Theology of Home because we're using beautiful visuals and we're

00:08:06.420 using our ideas.

00:08:07.980 We're using Catholic ideas to help women absorb these in the same way that we absorb the bad

00:08:13.040 ideas, but in a way that's beautiful and compelling.

00:08:15.080 Because I think a few people know that what Catholic women have, you know, we're said to 0.99

00:08:19.300 be the most happy women on the planet.

00:08:22.160 And women really want what we have. 1.00

00:08:24.080 We have, you know, faithful husbands. 0.87

00:08:26.100 We know how we have families.

00:08:27.900 We know how to deal with stress and deal with, you know, crosses and turmoil in our lives.

00:08:34.440 And this is what the culture doesn't know.

00:08:35.960 So, so we always joke about how, you know, in these books, we're putting up pictures

00:08:40.420 of, you know, illicit pictures of, you know, men that really look like men and are good

00:08:45.980 dads and big families and pregnant women, you know, all these things that aren't supposed 1.00

00:08:50.200 to be represented in the culture.

00:08:51.420 Because, you know, if you look at any commercial today, it's, it's the man and it usually he's 1.00

00:08:55.960 an idiot that the woman has to come along and sort of help him, you know, diaper a baby 1.00

00:09:01.080 or clean a kitchen or something. 1.00

00:09:03.020 So anyway, we wanted to really just represent truth, beauty and goodness, but in a way that's

00:09:08.960 very absorbable by women in a way that we're used to absorbing content. 0.96

00:09:14.220 I should just do one clarification for people.

00:09:16.460 You're not saying that men should never help in the kitchen or should never help change a

00:09:19.700 diaper.

00:09:19.940 Oh, no, absolutely.

00:09:21.720 No, but I think that's the thing is that they're absolutely competent.

00:09:25.360 You know, I have a husband who, you know, is a much better cook than I am.

00:09:28.900 And, you know, my kids are happy when he cooks, when I don't.

00:09:33.340 So no, absolutely.

00:09:34.440 I think that there's room for all of that. 1.00

00:09:37.380 But, but that this is the way that we've been portrayed is as, you know, men are idiots 1.00

00:09:42.520 because men are the enemy, really. 1.00

00:09:43.860 That's, that's this lie that men are enemy and that the patriarchy is bad.

00:09:48.340 And then the other lie, of course, is that women that don't agree with these women, they're, 0.99

00:09:53.760 they must be doormats.

00:09:55.040 And so we just wanted to show the opposite of that, something very, very beautiful.

00:09:58.900 That also fits in line with, of course, who Our Lady is as a model of service and humility

00:10:04.380 and motherhood. 0.97

00:10:06.060 I think those are important elements that aren't, aren't out there.

00:10:09.140 Now, you have a fascinating account in your book about the way some of this came to be

00:10:15.260 about a meeting of feminists together. 0.67

00:10:18.340 Do you want to tell us a little bit about that?

00:10:19.880 I interviewed Mallory Millett.

00:10:21.600 Mallory Millett is the sister of the late Kate Millett.

00:10:24.940 But Mallory had been writing about her sister since her death and really trying to get Kate's

00:10:30.160 story out because she felt a lot of guilt because she had been involved in Kate's life

00:10:34.320 early on and been kind of a follower of Kate's.

00:10:37.360 And she actually helped name her book, Sexual Politics. 1.00

00:10:40.480 And Sexual Politics landed Kate on the front of Time magazine. 1.00

00:10:44.380 It just made her incredibly famous.

00:10:46.620 But it also was sort of the backbone of all the women's studies programs that are now

00:10:51.060 in universities.

00:10:53.240 So Mallory's had this huge conversion and was really trying to get the truth out about

00:10:57.800 her sister, Kate.

00:10:58.520 So she recounts back in the day when they were all living in New York that Kate would host

00:11:04.080 these events or they would be in someone's, one of her friend's apartments.

00:11:07.820 Twelve women sort of chanting this Marxist litany. 1.00

00:11:11.460 Kate Mallory grew up in a Catholic home.

00:11:13.080 So Kate knew what she was doing, both with a number of 12 women, but also with this litany. 0.71

00:11:18.880 And this litany was really part of this, you know, Maoist consciousness raising, very Marxist

00:11:24.380 ideas of how do we destroy the culture.

00:11:28.280 And, you know, I don't know if you have it there in front of you, if it's easier for you

00:11:31.360 to read it, but, or I can just describe the gist of it.

00:11:33.940 Ultimately, the, that what was behind their effort was to certainly destroy the American 0.82

00:11:38.540 family, to destroy men, to destroy the patriarchy, to, and to destroy all of these things that

00:11:45.320 were valued in the culture at that point. 0.99

00:11:47.500 And they did it through promoting promiscuity, homosexuality, prostitution, you know, all 1.00

00:11:54.680 of these things that at that stage were really not mainstream.

00:11:58.240 And you read this final line of their litany, and it's just amazing to see how successful

00:12:02.560 they have been in destroying all this.

00:12:05.280 And, you know, it's interesting to even think about how, even just last week, Madonna, Madonna

00:12:10.500 was put something up on Twitter, something like death to the patriarchy.

00:12:15.120 You know, Madonna is worth $850 million and somehow is blaming her, you know, lack of

00:12:22.840 success on men somehow.

00:12:24.340 But it's just fascinating how successful these 12 women were in spreading out this idea that

00:12:30.420 the patriarchy is bad.

00:12:31.480 And so it's now just shorthand, you know, any woman can complain about the patriarchy and 1.00

00:12:35.140 somehow everybody's like, oh, well, she's right.

00:12:37.360 Or, you know, it goes completely unquestioned, 50 years out from that event.

00:12:42.860 So it's really amazing to see just how successful these 12 women were, because, of course, they

00:12:49.680 went on to, again, form these women's studies programs. 0.94

00:12:53.860 They were all involved in NOW and NARAL and, you know, all these different ways that have

00:12:58.880 destroyed the culture.

00:13:00.080 So it's very sad.

00:13:02.280 But Mallory, on a different note, was, because she was so helpful, at one point we were talking

00:13:06.640 about the title of the book, and she said, you've got to put toxic femininity in it. 0.98

00:13:11.580 So it's pretty amazing to see her go from, you know, 50 years ago, naming her sister's

00:13:16.300 book to, you know, almost 50 years to the day, helping me name my book.

00:13:20.380 I know that she was, it really felt like that was an incredible, you know, grace that God

00:13:25.080 showed her how much she's transformed who she was at that time.

00:13:28.980 So anyway, but yeah, very sad roots.

00:13:32.380 And of course, there was an occult element to it as well.

00:13:35.580 This wasn't just, you know, Marxism, but there was also very much an involvement in

00:13:39.400 the occult and these women and a desire to just erase men altogether, to really see lesbianism 0.68

00:13:46.360 as the pinnacle of creation, or, you know, that was the goal to be aimed towards.

00:13:51.820 So yeah, it's very sad realities in these lives, especially because most of them had

00:13:58.080 major issues with their own parents, especially their mothers.

00:14:01.900 You can kind of see this across the board.

00:14:03.460 There was a book that came out shortly before I published mine that was so insightful in

00:14:07.780 this.

00:14:08.400 And I don't think it was meant to be insightful in the way that I was using it, but it was

00:14:12.480 just really revealing as to how broken these women were. 0.99

00:14:15.740 You're writing a book about traditional motherhood, about the value of motherhood of women in the

00:14:21.280 traditional sense.

00:14:22.680 People are going to think, oh my gosh, she's a throwback to the old ages. 1.00

00:14:26.440 I want them to get to know a little bit about Cary Grass.

00:14:29.740 Who is Cary Grass and why would you write such a thing?

00:14:32.480 You know, it's funny because I think that is the reaction because we've been conditioned

00:14:35.700 to think that that's the reaction, that if you're not with a culture today, then you

00:14:39.960 must want things to go back to the 1950s.

00:14:41.980 And, you know, I look at the 1950s and I say, the 1950s had to have some serious, maybe

00:14:48.220 they had this veneer of looking lovely, but there were some serious pieces missing because

00:14:53.140 you wouldn't have had the 60s be such a disaster if the family had been in better tact, if the

00:14:59.740 faith had been in better tact, if people knew their faith better.

00:15:02.480 So I'm never really advocating for going back to that model.

00:15:06.760 But yeah, I grew up in Oregon, actually, very liberal state.

00:15:11.940 And I think in many ways, it probably just turned me off because I saw the way people's

00:15:17.160 lives were destroyed by rampant drug abuse and, you know, just living without God.

00:15:23.060 And so then I had this deep conversion.

00:15:25.380 My father passed away and I, you know, I asked all kinds of questions as a teenager, trying

00:15:29.860 to figure out what, like reconciling his death and who I was and all these questions.

00:15:34.080 And ultimately, it was really answered by the church and just led me in this incredible

00:15:38.820 journey to find the faith and the truth of it and come to know Our Lady and all of that.

00:15:45.200 But in the meantime, I was also, I just started studying philosophy.

00:15:48.100 So I ended up finishing a doctorate in philosophy at Catholic University, actually finished it after

00:15:53.940 my third child was born.

00:15:55.920 I worked on it in labor and delivery because I was told I wasn't going to finish it.

00:16:00.280 So I was like, I'm going to finish it.

00:16:02.020 I don't care how it gets done.

00:16:04.400 And so I finally finished it after my third child was born.

00:16:08.300 But I've also lived in Poland and in Rome, working as a journalist and doing all kinds

00:16:13.000 of different things.

00:16:13.600 I lived in France.

00:16:14.960 I lived in Washington, D.C. and was actually George Weigel's assistant for three years.

00:16:20.060 And so anyway, it's been just an amazing life.

00:16:23.360 And then finally, I met my husband.

00:16:25.020 We were both older when we got married and we've been blessed with five children.

00:16:28.560 But yeah, I don't think that we really fit the 1950s model at all because we're both

00:16:35.220 100% all the time between all the things that we're doing and just caring for our children.

00:16:41.040 And I certainly couldn't do it without him.

00:16:42.960 He's an amazing man.

00:16:44.180 And yeah, it's both of us working really hard together to do the things that we've done

00:16:49.980 as a family and professionally and otherwise.

00:16:53.220 Awesome.

00:16:53.380 And on a final note, Keri, let me just ask you about Our Lady, specifically your relationship

00:17:00.140 with Our Lady and how she's helped in your life and how you feel she might help today's

00:17:04.860 woman.

00:17:05.480 This is a very long, I could talk about this probably for about two hours.

00:17:08.400 So I'll try and keep it somewhat brief.

00:17:10.480 But the first thing that I struggled with in terms of talking about Our Lady is that she

00:17:15.740 seems really inaccessible to a lot of women.

00:17:18.400 We can think of her as just a statue or very pious.

00:17:21.320 And she's perfect.

00:17:22.700 So how do you relate to the perfect woman? 0.96

00:17:24.820 And so I went back to look at what are the desires of every woman's heart.

00:17:28.220 And every woman desires to be known and loved.

00:17:31.520 She desires to do the good.

00:17:33.040 And she desires to be beautiful.

00:17:35.600 And certainly these things can become distorted.

00:17:37.720 They can be used in the wrong ways.

00:17:40.760 Even these women that you look at radical feminism and you see what these women were doing, 1.00

00:17:45.980 they thought that they were actually doing very good things.

00:17:48.740 But you can see this desire to do the good deep in them.

00:17:52.500 It just was obviously very misguided and distorted.

00:17:55.340 And beauty is the same way.

00:17:56.700 That's been turned more twisted into a kind of control and manipulation with our sexuality

00:18:01.980 or vanity.

00:18:03.080 And yet Our Lady has all of those factors.

00:18:06.460 We can see that she's got this desire to be known and loved, but it's completely fulfilled

00:18:11.020 because she knows the father.

00:18:12.280 She's loved by him.

00:18:15.000 And that's where everything else flows out of that.

00:18:17.660 So her goodness, of course, is perfect goodness because it's in accord with God's will.

00:18:22.300 And her beauty is amazing.

00:18:24.080 In fact, this was one of the fun things.

00:18:25.380 Even when I was researching the marrying option, was just to see how much people spoke

00:18:30.100 about her beauty.

00:18:31.040 You know, this isn't an accidental attribute that she has, but it's very specific and very

00:18:35.540 important.

00:18:36.460 And this is why I believe women are made beautiful.

00:18:39.100 Well, she's beautiful so that she can show others what God looks like, to show God's

00:18:43.820 beauty.

00:18:44.920 St. Therese has this great quote about how Our Lady is so beautiful that you would want

00:18:48.820 to die just so you could see her again.

00:18:51.040 And every apparition, it was always the person that saw her said, she was the most beautiful

00:18:56.440 woman I've ever seen.

00:18:58.020 So that beauty, I think, is such a great idea for us to understand the kind of beauty that

00:19:04.440 we're meant to cultivate and called to live and show others.

00:19:09.900 But it was really funny because, of course, I wrote my book and I got to turn into the

00:19:13.080 publisher.

00:19:13.520 And then I went on a trip with my family.

00:19:15.820 And I had never watched the Hallmark Channel before in my life.

00:19:18.220 But somebody said, oh, watch the Hallmark Channel.

00:19:20.240 It's pretty good.

00:19:20.900 And this is before they went woke.

00:19:22.160 But I watched a couple of movies with my daughters.

00:19:25.040 We were in a hotel room.

00:19:26.480 After a couple of episodes, I was like, wait a minute.

00:19:28.820 These are the three things that surround every Hallmark movie.

00:19:33.240 You know, this desire to be known and loved, some desire to do the good.

00:19:36.240 You know, it's some woman going home and saving a library or something. 1.00

00:19:39.700 And to be beautiful.

00:19:41.260 I mean, she's beautiful while she's doing it. 0.93

00:19:42.900 And the man that is entranced by her beauty and, you know, all of that.

00:19:46.000 So it just really struck me that, you know, this is why Hallmark Channel is so popular because

00:19:49.860 they've tapped into this idea.

00:19:52.940 But ultimately, it comes back to who Our Lady is because she's the only one that can do all

00:19:57.100 of those things in the right way because of her connection with God.

00:20:00.640 So anyway, that's sort of the abstract understanding of, I think, why Our Lady can apply to all

00:20:07.040 of our lives.

00:20:07.640 But, you know, on a personal level, I think I had a devotion to Our Lady for a very, very

00:20:11.900 long time.

00:20:12.500 I was always intrigued by lures and other apparition sites.

00:20:17.240 But certainly, my deep understanding of her love for her children did not happen until

00:20:22.640 I had my own kids.

00:20:23.680 I just couldn't fathom that.

00:20:25.200 And so that's been a great grace to really understand the way that she loves us and the

00:20:29.600 way that she sacrifices for us.

00:20:31.740 And I think, though, that every woman is called to spiritual motherhood.

00:20:35.500 This isn't just for those of us that have children.

00:20:38.700 But we all have this capacity to love others, to hold others, to be able to transform them

00:20:44.840 through our love.

00:20:46.080 And this is what we see with, you know, even within our bodies where we are meant to carry

00:20:50.260 things.

00:20:50.720 You can see this in, you know, references to Our Lady.

00:20:54.700 She's a vessel.

00:20:56.000 She's the ark.

00:20:57.600 You know, all of these things.

00:20:58.680 Even the church is a she. 1.00

00:21:01.420 The main part of the church, the nave, actually refers to navy or ship, this idea of carrying.

00:21:08.340 So anyway, it's been really fun to sort of start looking at it.

00:21:12.160 We've spent so much time trying to figure out how women can be like men that I've been

00:21:16.520 trying to go back and help women see there's a whole nother side of femininity that we don't

00:21:21.840 even understand anymore because we've been ignoring it.

00:21:24.720 So I've been diving into that a lot.

00:21:26.480 And certainly Our Lady has been incredibly instrumental in understanding that just because there's so

00:21:31.460 much that's been written about her over the centuries.

00:21:34.840 Carrie Gress, thank you so much for being with us on this episode of The John Henry Weston Show.

00:21:38.640 My pleasure.

00:21:39.280 Thanks so much for having me.

00:21:40.720 And I would encourage all of you to please go out and get the book and read it.

00:21:44.300 The name of the book is The Anti-Mary Exposed, Rescuing the Culture from Toxic Femininity.

00:21:51.200 Please go out and get it.

00:21:52.100 Let's read it.

00:21:52.400 It's an awesome book.

00:21:53.700 And there's much, much in there that we haven't covered yet.

00:21:56.720 God bless you, Carrie. 0.99

00:21:57.860 And God bless all of you.

00:21:59.140 We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - March 24, 2021

Catholic author exposes toxic femininity...and its cure

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