The John-Henry Westen Show - August 17, 2021


Catholic hospitals are forcing the COVID shot. This doctor is fighting back

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Imagine you were a medical doctor or in the medical profession and your place of work absolutely insisted that you get an untested vaccine which can cause who knows what kind of damage when the great likelihood is that you could fight off this virus by yourself. Well, we re going to be speaking with someone today who s faced that situation, who s in it, and in fact has agreed to come on not so much for himself, but for others who are in the same situation, whom he s seeking to help by revealing what s actually going on. You're going to want to stay tuned.

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00:00:00.000 Imagine you were a medical doctor or in the medical profession and your place of work absolutely insisted that you get an absolutely untested vaccine, which can cause who knows what kind of damage when the great likelihood is that you could fight off this virus by yourself.
00:00:21.880 Well, we're going to be speaking with someone today who's faced that situation, who's in it, and in fact has agreed to come on not so much for himself, but for others who are in that same situation whom he's seeking to help by revealing what's actually going on.
00:00:38.040 You're going to want to stay tuned.
00:00:51.880 Dr. Salvatore Argyro, welcome to the program.
00:01:00.840 Thank you, John Hunter. It's nice to be here.
00:01:03.260 So let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.
00:01:06.420 In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:01:13.160 So, Dr. Argyro, thank you for your courage. Thank you for what you're doing.
00:01:17.840 Tell us, if you would, what happened and why you're coming to us now.
00:01:23.520 About a week ago, I received a memo from Ascension Health.
00:01:29.260 So I provide services to a local hospital that is run by Ascension Health Care.
00:01:36.840 And Ascension Health Care is what, for those of us who don't know yet?
00:01:39.200 So it's the conglomerate of Catholic-run hospitals that has sort of taken over management of many Catholic hospitals across the country.
00:01:55.300 Locally, you know, we had a local Catholic hospital started by nuns.
00:02:00.200 Nuns and Ascension, and I'm not, I don't know the history in detail, but I know Ascension took over management and the nuns were recalled.
00:02:11.560 So I provide services for Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital.
00:02:17.580 It's a wonderful Catholic hospital, great people.
00:02:21.520 I provide psychiatric services, largely consulting services.
00:02:25.500 Since the pandemic, I've worked entirely remotely.
00:02:29.920 We received a memo from the CEO of Ascension, notifying us that the COVID-19 vaccination would be mandated for all employees, all contractors, all staff, whether you work remotely or are directly facing patients.
00:02:51.640 Let me just stop you right there. 0.84
00:02:53.100 So this is mandated vaccines by a Catholic institution, but mandated also for remote workers, remote meaning you're counseling patients like we are right now, over video.
00:03:07.500 Correct.
00:03:08.420 Okay.
00:03:09.400 All right.
00:03:10.700 Continue from there.
00:03:12.140 Took me quite a bit of discernment, but several months ago, I was struggling with the decision, should I accept a vaccine or not for myself?
00:03:22.480 What would I recommend to patients if they asked me?
00:03:25.820 And I, you know, I, I, I felt moved very strongly that I couldn't accept one of these vaccines.
00:03:32.380 And I believed I would always have, you know, it would be an optional choice.
00:03:37.280 Um, and now this, uh, policy has come down and we have, uh, until sometime in November, um, to get vaccinated or lose our employment.
00:03:50.880 Um, I should say that they, there is a process for requesting an exemption.
00:03:58.040 Um, I don't know the details because they're not opening that process until, uh, the 16th of this month.
00:04:03.360 They're going to look at religious and, and, uh, medical exemptions, but I can't believe that as an American, I'm in the position of relying on the good graces of some overviewing body to determine whether I have to, uh, violate my conscience, my religious conscience or not.
00:04:20.880 It is unbelievable from so many perspectives, but just from, uh, the religious perspective, I mean, this is a so-called Catholic institution insisting on the vaccines.
00:04:32.540 And we've already seen Notre Dame University also do the same thing, insist on the vaccines and then tell Catholics, oh, by the way, a religious exemption for Catholics is not going to work.
00:04:42.740 Maybe for others it would, um, because the Pope has taken it and the bishops have promoted it.
00:04:48.600 Um, there's, there's a whole thing we could say about that, but just to focus on that, the documents that they themselves are using, uh, the, the Catholic bishops, that is,
00:04:58.680 and the Pope to sort of say that this is, uh, mandatory has in itself, uh, room for the objection that you can say you won't take this because they are abortion tainted, uh, treatments.
00:05:12.540 I don't even call them vaccines because anyway, that's another story as well, but it's just unreal that they're going there from this Catholic institution.
00:05:21.240 But so if they're mandating this across the board, what about pregnant women?
00:05:28.300 What about nurses, physicians, or whatever who are pregnant? 1.00
00:05:32.720 Are they going to say they have to have it as well?
00:05:35.020 I have colleagues that I work with, one of whom is pregnant, who had COVID, uh, the infection before becoming pregnant.
00:05:45.240 So almost certainly has, you know, robust immunity.
00:05:48.340 If the mandate is, um, very black and white, we'll have to get vaccinated. 0.57
00:05:54.000 Now, you know, I, the belief is, as we talk amongst ourselves that, you know, I, they will probably exempt somebody who's pregnant, but, but again, we don't know.
00:06:04.420 And you're depending on the good graces of, of some group of people for your livelihood.
00:06:11.140 You know, um, I've been blessed as a physician.
00:06:15.380 Um, I have a lot of opportunities.
00:06:17.260 I don't rely solely on Ascension for my income.
00:06:20.300 I can pivot to other sources, but many of the people I work with are not in that position.
00:06:26.300 And, um, it's just a very difficult spot to be in.
00:06:31.880 As a physician yourself, I'm sure you've seen the VAERS database, which is sort of a government database of adverse effects from all vaccines.
00:06:40.840 And the VAERS database has gone crazy over the COVID shots, um, with now, I believe there's over 11,000 deaths associated, uh, with these and hundreds of thousands of adverse effects.
00:06:56.520 So there's real concern we've seen, actually only thanks to Senator Johnson, uh, some of the victims of this COVID shot, uh, and various ones.
00:07:08.720 Uh, but those, as, as Dr. Peter McCullough has said so often, they need to be doing this every week.
00:07:16.080 I think the American people are undergoing this mass experiment with these vaccines or with these COVID shots that aren't really tested.
00:07:23.660 Uh, this is real.
00:07:24.720 The, the big test is on right now.
00:07:26.620 And yet we're not getting these reports.
00:07:28.940 Uh, Senator Johnson did the one where it was showing the, the victims of this.
00:07:33.700 And they were in tears, explaining mothers in tears, explaining how her daughter is now in a wheelchair and everything like this.
00:07:38.760 So there's real risks to this and the people should be given the choice.
00:07:44.660 And yet they're not, um, what would be your message to the other medical staff who are facing the same kind of dilemma?
00:07:54.900 Uh, your stand is very courageous.
00:07:57.060 This is very difficult for people in the medical profession.
00:07:59.920 My, my, my daughter's in, in the medical profession, um, many students in medicine, um, are, are facing this same dilemma at the universities.
00:08:09.820 Uh, what's your message to them?
00:08:11.740 Uh, and then to those who are overseeing, uh, these programs.
00:08:16.200 There's actually, now that I think of it, two real ethical dilemmas as a physician.
00:08:21.260 I was trained and I believe it's still, it's still our duty to do what's in the best interest of our patient.
00:08:28.240 We are supposed to advise the person in front of us who is our patient, what is best for them.
00:08:34.880 And, you know, we're, we're supposed to weigh the risks and benefits of that recommendation.
00:08:40.160 It seems pretty clear that there are different risk groups.
00:08:45.480 Somebody who is much older, has multiple medical comorbidities, is at a higher risk for succumbing to the virus.
00:08:53.260 You know, it's an experimental vaccine.
00:08:54.860 There are certainly going to be risks to this, uh, treatment.
00:08:59.720 We can't, we should be having these conversations and putting what's the interest of our patients ahead of the public interest.
00:09:08.740 And that's not to discount the public interest, but that's not our duty.
00:09:13.320 That's, you know, what's best for the population is somebody else's role.
00:09:17.400 But I should not be looking at the, uh, uh, a 20 year old who's almost certainly at no mortal risk from the virus and recommending that they take a vaccine.
00:09:30.420 Even if it's a low risk, um, it's an unknown risk by its very nature.
00:09:36.960 And, and that to me is an ethical problem.
00:09:40.720 I would ask my, my colleagues to consider.
00:09:43.780 We're not in the business of public health when we're with our patients.
00:09:47.820 We are, I believe our duty is to do what's best for them individually.
00:09:54.460 What I would say to, uh, what I would like to say to leaders, I would just like to share, you know, my response to the, the more, more moral dilemma as, as a Christian.
00:10:07.060 And I'm an Orthodox Christian, by the way, I was raised Catholic, but I came to a point where I thought, well, children have died to, in the production of these, these vaccines.
00:10:18.940 And I, I thought, you know, at the very least, shouldn't we, you know, wouldn't we want to, um, give them some recognition, you know, like if they're going to lead to the, to millions of lives being saved, you know, and the most, uh, dramatic example.
00:10:35.840 We can't, we can't, we don't even know their names.
00:10:38.120 We can't say thank you.
00:10:39.540 We can't ask their permission.
00:10:41.940 You know, um, how can I use, use their life, uh, to, to promote my own or anybody else's.
00:10:50.480 Um, and that really, to me was the moment I said, you know, this isn't right.
00:10:54.360 Like we just, we can't know and we can't thank them.
00:10:58.920 And, um, so we shouldn't be doing this and we have to stop these cell lines.
00:11:05.840 Um, need to be put to rest.
00:11:07.580 That's how I would put it.
00:11:09.000 And alternative means as Catholics, as Christians, um, we really need to be advocating.
00:11:15.160 And this is an opportunity to advocate that this, that these cell lines be put to rest and that we look at other avenues for, for using, uh, for creating medical treatments of all kinds.
00:11:28.700 Um, so, you know, I thought, you know, I, I recognize, I, I remember when, you know, pictures of the Pope getting vaccinated and, um, statements, uh, I don't know that it was acceptable.
00:11:43.980 Well, and he's not, and by the way, the Catholic church, isn't the only, uh, Christian body to kind of be behind this, uh, support.
00:11:51.440 Um, but there's also been many, many, uh, Christian groups that have recognized that this is immoral. 0.54
00:11:57.160 You know, I try to tell people if, you know, if some, God forbid, you know, some, some cell lines from the Holocaust had been kept, like, I think we would all not be, um, it would be clear we wouldn't, we wouldn't accept use of them in medical development. 0.59
00:12:14.720 So to me clearly is, is, you know, the result of, we're, we're using murder, um, to develop medical treatments and it's just such a perversion of the medical process.
00:12:25.980 So that's my message.
00:12:27.700 I, you know, I, I, um, it really was a struggle because I know that there are lives at risk, you know, and who, you know, there's a huge burden in that direction too.
00:12:37.440 Were this treatment to work, uh, uh, very well and, and be the only solution, that would be one thing.
00:12:44.500 Uh, even still there would be problem, uh, but with the, uh, early treatments that so many doctors have shown, uh, have such a great effect with natural immunity and so on being robust.
00:12:57.420 These are very strange questions, but that basic thing about, uh, the abortion tainted nature of the vaccines, all of them for, uh, the COVID is very, very concerning.
00:13:08.440 When I was speaking with Bishop Athanasius Schneider, who was, um, really one of the first bishops to speak out on this whole thing, he told me very interestingly that when he prayed about this, he prayed very much for, also with the intercession of the child whom was the aborted baby who, uh, whose cells were used for HEK 293, which is the cell line used by all the vaccines, uh, currently in use.
00:13:37.120 And, um, that child, he said, is known by God.
00:13:42.820 Uh, and it's an unreal thing to think that child was murdered.
00:13:48.520 It was an abortion. 1.00
00:13:49.660 It was an abortion after three months gestation.
00:13:52.480 Uh, it was an abortion of a healthy child. 0.91
00:13:54.740 Um, and remember they moved the, it removed the kidney, uh, of, of the child.
00:14:00.040 It's absolutely horrific.
00:14:02.660 Actually getting that into our heads that that's what we're dealing with is, uh, is really key.
00:14:07.640 And, and something very important for people to understand.
00:14:10.060 There's no light.
00:14:11.140 Oh, well, it was just used, uh, for testing and so on.
00:14:14.200 It was used in development.
00:14:15.460 It was used in testing.
00:14:16.540 One of the vaccines has, if you will, DNA fragments of the child in the vaccine.
00:14:22.720 I know that's not the, you know, Pfizer, Moderna ones, the popular ones, I guess right now, but
00:14:27.360 nonetheless, so serious an issue.
00:14:29.860 And so not even to allow for people to choose to take it, but to mandate it.
00:14:35.480 Absolutely unconscionable.
00:14:37.340 Dr. Juro again, I want to thank you for doing what you're doing for speaking out, uh, in defense,
00:14:42.400 both of your colleagues and for the good of medicine, for the good of the whole profession
00:14:46.360 of, uh, of medicine, uh, may God bless you.
00:14:50.580 Thank you.
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