Imagine you were a medical doctor or in the medical profession and your place of work absolutely insisted that you get an untested vaccine which can cause who knows what kind of damage when the great likelihood is that you could fight off this virus by yourself. Well, we re going to be speaking with someone today who s faced that situation, who s in it, and in fact has agreed to come on not so much for himself, but for others who are in the same situation, whom he s seeking to help by revealing what s actually going on. You're going to want to stay tuned.
00:00:00.000Imagine you were a medical doctor or in the medical profession and your place of work absolutely insisted that you get an absolutely untested vaccine, which can cause who knows what kind of damage when the great likelihood is that you could fight off this virus by yourself.
00:00:21.880Well, we're going to be speaking with someone today who's faced that situation, who's in it, and in fact has agreed to come on not so much for himself, but for others who are in that same situation whom he's seeking to help by revealing what's actually going on.
00:00:51.880Dr. Salvatore Argyro, welcome to the program.
00:01:00.840Thank you, John Hunter. It's nice to be here.
00:01:03.260So let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.
00:01:06.420In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:01:13.160So, Dr. Argyro, thank you for your courage. Thank you for what you're doing.
00:01:17.840Tell us, if you would, what happened and why you're coming to us now.
00:01:23.520About a week ago, I received a memo from Ascension Health.
00:01:29.260So I provide services to a local hospital that is run by Ascension Health Care.
00:01:36.840And Ascension Health Care is what, for those of us who don't know yet?
00:01:39.200So it's the conglomerate of Catholic-run hospitals that has sort of taken over management of many Catholic hospitals across the country.
00:01:55.300Locally, you know, we had a local Catholic hospital started by nuns.
00:02:00.200Nuns and Ascension, and I'm not, I don't know the history in detail, but I know Ascension took over management and the nuns were recalled.
00:02:11.560So I provide services for Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital.
00:02:17.580It's a wonderful Catholic hospital, great people.
00:02:21.520I provide psychiatric services, largely consulting services.
00:02:25.500Since the pandemic, I've worked entirely remotely.
00:02:29.920We received a memo from the CEO of Ascension, notifying us that the COVID-19 vaccination would be mandated for all employees, all contractors, all staff, whether you work remotely or are directly facing patients.
00:02:53.100So this is mandated vaccines by a Catholic institution, but mandated also for remote workers, remote meaning you're counseling patients like we are right now, over video.
00:03:12.140Took me quite a bit of discernment, but several months ago, I was struggling with the decision, should I accept a vaccine or not for myself?
00:03:22.480What would I recommend to patients if they asked me?
00:03:25.820And I, you know, I, I, I felt moved very strongly that I couldn't accept one of these vaccines.
00:03:32.380And I believed I would always have, you know, it would be an optional choice.
00:03:37.280Um, and now this, uh, policy has come down and we have, uh, until sometime in November, um, to get vaccinated or lose our employment.
00:03:50.880Um, I should say that they, there is a process for requesting an exemption.
00:03:58.040Um, I don't know the details because they're not opening that process until, uh, the 16th of this month.
00:04:03.360They're going to look at religious and, and, uh, medical exemptions, but I can't believe that as an American, I'm in the position of relying on the good graces of some overviewing body to determine whether I have to, uh, violate my conscience, my religious conscience or not.
00:04:20.880It is unbelievable from so many perspectives, but just from, uh, the religious perspective, I mean, this is a so-called Catholic institution insisting on the vaccines.
00:04:32.540And we've already seen Notre Dame University also do the same thing, insist on the vaccines and then tell Catholics, oh, by the way, a religious exemption for Catholics is not going to work.
00:04:42.740Maybe for others it would, um, because the Pope has taken it and the bishops have promoted it.
00:04:48.600Um, there's, there's a whole thing we could say about that, but just to focus on that, the documents that they themselves are using, uh, the, the Catholic bishops, that is,
00:04:58.680and the Pope to sort of say that this is, uh, mandatory has in itself, uh, room for the objection that you can say you won't take this because they are abortion tainted, uh, treatments.
00:05:12.540I don't even call them vaccines because anyway, that's another story as well, but it's just unreal that they're going there from this Catholic institution.
00:05:21.240But so if they're mandating this across the board, what about pregnant women?
00:05:28.300What about nurses, physicians, or whatever who are pregnant?
00:05:32.720Are they going to say they have to have it as well?
00:05:35.020I have colleagues that I work with, one of whom is pregnant, who had COVID, uh, the infection before becoming pregnant.
00:05:45.240So almost certainly has, you know, robust immunity.
00:05:48.340If the mandate is, um, very black and white, we'll have to get vaccinated.
00:05:54.000Now, you know, I, the belief is, as we talk amongst ourselves that, you know, I, they will probably exempt somebody who's pregnant, but, but again, we don't know.
00:06:04.420And you're depending on the good graces of, of some group of people for your livelihood.
00:06:11.140You know, um, I've been blessed as a physician.
00:06:17.260I don't rely solely on Ascension for my income.
00:06:20.300I can pivot to other sources, but many of the people I work with are not in that position.
00:06:26.300And, um, it's just a very difficult spot to be in.
00:06:31.880As a physician yourself, I'm sure you've seen the VAERS database, which is sort of a government database of adverse effects from all vaccines.
00:06:40.840And the VAERS database has gone crazy over the COVID shots, um, with now, I believe there's over 11,000 deaths associated, uh, with these and hundreds of thousands of adverse effects.
00:06:56.520So there's real concern we've seen, actually only thanks to Senator Johnson, uh, some of the victims of this COVID shot, uh, and various ones.
00:07:08.720Uh, but those, as, as Dr. Peter McCullough has said so often, they need to be doing this every week.
00:07:16.080I think the American people are undergoing this mass experiment with these vaccines or with these COVID shots that aren't really tested.
00:07:57.060This is very difficult for people in the medical profession.
00:07:59.920My, my, my daughter's in, in the medical profession, um, many students in medicine, um, are, are facing this same dilemma at the universities.
00:08:11.740Uh, and then to those who are overseeing, uh, these programs.
00:08:16.200There's actually, now that I think of it, two real ethical dilemmas as a physician.
00:08:21.260I was trained and I believe it's still, it's still our duty to do what's in the best interest of our patient.
00:08:28.240We are supposed to advise the person in front of us who is our patient, what is best for them.
00:08:34.880And, you know, we're, we're supposed to weigh the risks and benefits of that recommendation.
00:08:40.160It seems pretty clear that there are different risk groups.
00:08:45.480Somebody who is much older, has multiple medical comorbidities, is at a higher risk for succumbing to the virus.
00:08:53.260You know, it's an experimental vaccine.
00:08:54.860There are certainly going to be risks to this, uh, treatment.
00:08:59.720We can't, we should be having these conversations and putting what's the interest of our patients ahead of the public interest.
00:09:08.740And that's not to discount the public interest, but that's not our duty.
00:09:13.320That's, you know, what's best for the population is somebody else's role.
00:09:17.400But I should not be looking at the, uh, uh, a 20 year old who's almost certainly at no mortal risk from the virus and recommending that they take a vaccine.
00:09:30.420Even if it's a low risk, um, it's an unknown risk by its very nature.
00:09:36.960And, and that to me is an ethical problem.
00:09:40.720I would ask my, my colleagues to consider.
00:09:43.780We're not in the business of public health when we're with our patients.
00:09:47.820We are, I believe our duty is to do what's best for them individually.
00:09:54.460What I would say to, uh, what I would like to say to leaders, I would just like to share, you know, my response to the, the more, more moral dilemma as, as a Christian.
00:10:07.060And I'm an Orthodox Christian, by the way, I was raised Catholic, but I came to a point where I thought, well, children have died to, in the production of these, these vaccines.
00:10:18.940And I, I thought, you know, at the very least, shouldn't we, you know, wouldn't we want to, um, give them some recognition, you know, like if they're going to lead to the, to millions of lives being saved, you know, and the most, uh, dramatic example.
00:10:35.840We can't, we can't, we don't even know their names.
00:11:09.000And alternative means as Catholics, as Christians, um, we really need to be advocating.
00:11:15.160And this is an opportunity to advocate that this, that these cell lines be put to rest and that we look at other avenues for, for using, uh, for creating medical treatments of all kinds.
00:11:28.700Um, so, you know, I thought, you know, I, I recognize, I, I remember when, you know, pictures of the Pope getting vaccinated and, um, statements, uh, I don't know that it was acceptable.
00:11:43.980Well, and he's not, and by the way, the Catholic church, isn't the only, uh, Christian body to kind of be behind this, uh, support.
00:11:51.440Um, but there's also been many, many, uh, Christian groups that have recognized that this is immoral.
00:11:57.160You know, I try to tell people if, you know, if some, God forbid, you know, some, some cell lines from the Holocaust had been kept, like, I think we would all not be, um, it would be clear we wouldn't, we wouldn't accept use of them in medical development.
00:12:14.720So to me clearly is, is, you know, the result of, we're, we're using murder, um, to develop medical treatments and it's just such a perversion of the medical process.
00:12:27.700I, you know, I, I, um, it really was a struggle because I know that there are lives at risk, you know, and who, you know, there's a huge burden in that direction too.
00:12:37.440Were this treatment to work, uh, uh, very well and, and be the only solution, that would be one thing.
00:12:44.500Uh, even still there would be problem, uh, but with the, uh, early treatments that so many doctors have shown, uh, have such a great effect with natural immunity and so on being robust.
00:12:57.420These are very strange questions, but that basic thing about, uh, the abortion tainted nature of the vaccines, all of them for, uh, the COVID is very, very concerning.
00:13:08.440When I was speaking with Bishop Athanasius Schneider, who was, um, really one of the first bishops to speak out on this whole thing, he told me very interestingly that when he prayed about this, he prayed very much for, also with the intercession of the child whom was the aborted baby who, uh, whose cells were used for HEK 293, which is the cell line used by all the vaccines, uh, currently in use.
00:13:37.120And, um, that child, he said, is known by God.
00:13:42.820Uh, and it's an unreal thing to think that child was murdered.