The John-Henry Westen Show - June 25, 2025


Catholic Priest Brings EXORCISM to Hollywood ｜ THE RITUAL

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exorcism in film and faith
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John-Henry Westen
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Harrison Al Pacino Dan Stevens Grant Asen Ebert Emma John Henry Weston Aaron Williams Theopolis Steiger David Harry Potter
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In this episode of John Henry Weston's show, we discuss the new horror film, The Ritual, starring Al Pacino and directed by David David David Fincher, and its depiction of exorcism in the Catholic liturgy. In this episode, we speak with Aaron Williams, a liturgy expert and consultant on the film, to discuss the similarities between The Ritual and Nefarious and The Exorcist.

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00:00:00.000 Christ is already victorious. And that was one of the conversations I had with Al Pacino about
00:00:04.600 exorcism. Well, my friends, welcome to John Henry Weston's show. We have got a very interesting
00:00:10.420 show. Right now, there is a movie out called The Ritual. And it's a horror film. It's a film about
00:00:18.540 possession and an exorcism. And before you wonder, is it going to be The Exorcist? Well, no.
00:00:24.200 In fact, I would think because of its accuracy to what really goes on, it's probably more comparable
00:00:31.100 to Nefarious. We'll get into that. But with me today to talk about it is actually the pastor of the
00:00:38.280 church where it was filmed. It is the St. Mary's Basilica Church in Natchez, Mississippi, an old
00:00:46.100 church, beautiful church for them to film in. And he became the consultant to this film. He is
00:00:53.820 himself a liturgy expert. He's doing his PhD in liturgy. So all that's going to be correct for
00:00:59.960 the 1928 when it's set. And it's getting panned. It's getting just bashed everywhere by the critics.
00:01:07.940 Why? Well, because it's too Catholic. All that and much more on this episode of John Henry Weston's show. 0.97
00:01:14.600 Father Aaron Williams, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. We always
00:01:18.380 begin with the sign of the cross. So if you would lead us, please. Sure. In the name of the Father,
00:01:22.060 and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Father. So this is very
00:01:28.200 interesting. You know, when we had The Exorcist come out, and it's always like it's a Hollywood
00:01:33.520 thing. It's a production, but it's not accurate to the faith. That was one of the criticisms made
00:01:38.580 from many of The Exorcists I spoke to because, you know, we're speaking about exorcism, and that's
00:01:43.080 become a thing in the past number of years. And when Nefarious came out, it was interesting because
00:01:48.500 I talked to The Exorcist, and they said, that is the most accurate depiction of a possession
00:01:54.700 that's ever been on film. So I want to just start there. You're the consultant on this,
00:02:00.960 and it's just come out now. What is that to you? Would you agree with that depiction of
00:02:06.020 Nefarious? And then how would you say that relates to The Ritual?
00:02:09.400 So I may surprise you, but I actually have not seen Nefarious, so I can't respond to that.
00:02:14.140 But, you know, speaking of this film and working with it and working with a few exorcists within
00:02:20.380 my diocese, I feel very confident that what's being depicted as far as the exorcism scenes and
00:02:26.820 then just as the inclusional life in general is a very accurate depiction. And there's a heavy
00:02:31.380 emphasis in the movie, not only of the depiction of exorcism itself, but the sort of approach the
00:02:38.460 church takes to determine if an exorcism is necessary is also done in a very accurate way. So
00:02:43.600 that was actually the only reason I was actually willing to be involved in the film, because I
00:02:47.000 wanted to ensure if I was going to be part of this, that the church is being depicted in a
00:02:51.640 respectful way and that exorcism is not being treated as a sort of theatrical prop, but something
00:02:56.860 that is given a level of reverence, you know, because we don't want people to be sort of obsessive
00:03:06.520 about exorcism right now because that can be spiritually dangerous. But I do think it's important
00:03:11.300 that people understand the reality of evil and how the church responds and through the
00:03:15.820 ministry of the Lord in the church.
00:03:17.360 Beautiful. This is also depicted in 1928. So we're talking the old rite of the mass and
00:03:23.320 the way they did it back then, which would have been a different thing. So that's something
00:03:28.760 you had to look in specifically to see how it was done in the past. I know things have changed
00:03:33.820 quite a bit, actually. But so how did that go?
00:03:37.040 Yeah. So David, the director of the movie, he's actually Jewish, and he had some knowledge
00:03:42.440 that the liturgy had been reformed, but he didn't have a lot of knowledge. He wasn't even
00:03:48.120 aware that the mass wasn't said facing the people, for instance, in 1928. So when he first came
00:03:55.780 to start planning parts of the movie in the parish, I was having these conversations with
00:04:00.880 him. And at one point I said, now, do you want this to be sort of approachable to people
00:04:05.480 in the modern day who'd be familiar with the modern liturgy, or do you want it to be accurate
00:04:09.440 to 1928? He said, I want it to be accurate to 1928. And so we started explaining the way
00:04:13.440 the liturgy was reformed and how the liturgy would have to be celebrated back then. There
00:04:18.400 are some small liberties that have to be taken, obviously. So for instance, while elements
00:04:24.920 of the mass are done in Latin, the exorisms are shown in English. There are Latin phrases
00:04:29.880 in there, but they're done in English, I think, so that people could hear what the prayers
00:04:32.620 are being done. And some of the elements have to be abbreviated. So for instance, the litany
00:04:39.360 that's recited, and they may recite several names of the saints before there's a response
00:04:45.080 given. But generally speaking, it's not only done, I think, accurate for today, but it's
00:04:50.300 done accurate as it would have been in 1928. One story I mentioned to some people is when
00:04:56.740 the script was being prepared, David approached me and said that there's going to be a scene
00:05:02.180 where a priest gives a homily, and he wants the homily to obviously be topical to the
00:05:09.480 story, but to be on a passage of scripture that would have been read in mass at this time
00:05:16.320 of the year. And he knew there was a cycle of readings, but he didn't know all of that.
00:05:22.180 And so, you know, what we found is there's an epistle that falls in the 23rd Sunday after
00:05:28.400 Pentecost that would have fallen thereabouts in the time of year. They were looking for
00:05:33.200 something that would happen towards the end of October, early November in 1928, and that
00:05:36.880 year would have fallen around then. So even those little details, you know, those are the
00:05:40.600 kind of things that, you know, me as a liturgy nerd, you know, if you wanted to go back and
00:05:44.700 look at it, you'd be able to say, wow, they did their homework. And so I was proud of how
00:05:50.040 the director himself particularly wanted to approach this with that sort of level of accuracy.
00:05:54.620 And, um, you don't really see that in film that often.
00:05:58.220 Yeah.
00:05:59.040 Amazing.
00:05:59.700 Okay. Well, let's, let's have a look at the clip of the trailer.
00:06:03.720 Let's watch.
00:06:14.680 Brethren, put on the armor of God that you might withstand the devil.
00:06:19.600 This is a very troubled woman hissing at the side of a church. 1.00
00:06:26.960 The woman's parish wishes to attempt a solemn sacrament.
00:06:29.860 You mean an exorcism? Would you like me to perform it?
00:06:33.620 No. Some poor other soul already has that distinction.
00:06:41.280 We are the Lord's army in this battle.
00:06:46.040 I feel we should forego the restraints.
00:06:53.400 She is touched by something otherworldly.
00:06:57.100 What if what she really needs is a doctor?
00:07:01.300 We are paying a price for your lack of faith.
00:07:05.400 By your holy resurrection.
00:07:07.140 Deliver us, O Lord.
00:07:08.300 Something is happening and it's affecting all of us.
00:07:13.780 What you are doing is failing.
00:07:16.860 The sisters are traumatizing.
00:07:19.480 I want to shut this down.
00:07:20.980 I feel like I'm being drawn into something.
00:07:24.460 I can't sleep.
00:07:25.880 I can't sleep.
00:07:26.220 For us to be divided, it is for us to fall.
00:07:32.800 We are the ones that stand in the breach and hold back the darkness.
00:07:40.580 It is he who commands you.
00:07:44.300 Look at the light, Emma!
00:07:47.960 See the cross of the Lord!
00:07:51.660 Reveal yourself!
00:07:52.640 Emma?
00:07:57.100 Emma?
00:07:58.540 In our own nostrils.
00:08:14.460 It's very much a horror movie, which that's interesting.
00:08:18.960 I mean, from the depiction in the trailer there.
00:08:23.160 How do we, do you still get the beauty of the church and the beauty of the liturgy, which is exorcism is also a liturgy?
00:08:32.280 Does that come out, even though it's a horror film?
00:08:34.220 And how do you feel about that?
00:08:35.860 Yeah.
00:08:36.160 So I've been telling a lot of people, and I did tell the director himself, I don't think the trailer really does the movie justice.
00:08:40.960 You know, the movie does have, you know, scary, you may even use the word horrific elements to it because of the subject matter and the reality of evil.
00:08:51.620 But my impression as a priest and as a Catholic watching the movie, it's a movie that's a lot more about priesthood, really.
00:08:58.900 There's a dynamic that is going through the film where you have two priests, right?
00:09:05.820 You have Al Pacino's character, who's the exorcist, Father Theopolis, and you have Dan Stevens' character, who's the parish priest, Father Steiger.
00:09:12.960 And, you know, without trying to spoil the movie, Father Steiger is struggling emotionally, not really in his vocation, but he's struggling, and this is really part of the story.
00:09:24.720 He's struggling with something in his family, and he's struggling to understand what exactly is happening with this woman and her affliction.
00:09:32.600 You sort of see this play out where Father Theopolis, the exorcist, Al Pacino's character, is trying to guide this other priest into a deeper understanding of faith, and how the exorcism itself can't be successful, quote-unquote, without his faith, and that the Lord is trying to work through him.
00:09:52.600 And that's a major part of the whole story, and I think it shows the power of the priesthood.
00:09:59.000 My favorite line in the whole movie is, it's toward the end, Al Pacino is sitting down with Dan Stevens' character, and he says, Father, you're not a spectator, you're a priest.
00:10:07.840 And, you know, we don't have great depictions of priests in the film a lot, so I'm very proud that they took it that direction.
00:10:15.240 But to me, that's really a lot more of the story.
00:10:17.280 It's the story of these two priests.
00:10:18.860 It's a story of the way this affected these sisters in Iowa in 1928, and how the presence of this exorcism in their convent was very troubling to them, and a lot of them didn't want to be involved.
00:10:32.600 You know, it was disturbing their life, but then they had this interior desire to help.
00:10:36.860 And, you know, so in many ways, I feel like the film is, in microcosms, showing what the church does, right?
00:10:44.000 You have a number of very broken people who are coming together, but through the grace of God and the mercy of God, are able to bring about a great good in the life of one person.
00:10:55.460 And that's how the church operates every day, right?
00:10:57.680 It's God ministers to people through the brokenness of others.
00:11:00.640 Amazing.
00:11:02.440 Wow.
00:11:03.040 Now I'm really looking forward to seeing this.
00:11:05.480 I want to give you this quote.
00:11:06.840 This is hilarious.
00:11:07.680 This is from, this is what sort of sparked my interest, and it's from the reviewer, Ebert.
00:11:12.900 I don't know about you, but whenever I watch a movie or go to watch a movie, I look up the reviews.
00:11:18.620 If the reviews from the official reviewers are really bad, but the views from the populace, just the regular moviegoers, are like really good,
00:11:27.980 that's when you know it's a superb movie.
00:11:29.920 It's much better than it both are.
00:11:32.060 And that was the case with, oh, The Passion of the Christ and with Nefarious, with all the good movies that I actually love.
00:11:38.180 And this one is particularly so.
00:11:41.220 So the review that I read from Ebert, the Ebert reviewer, this was hilarious.
00:11:47.400 Listen, this is great.
00:11:49.860 And I'll quote it.
00:11:50.940 Not only does the movie descend into predictably supernatural building-shaking chaos, but it also reveals itself to be flagrantly, stubbornly pro-faith.
00:12:04.540 And I was like, what?
00:12:07.980 Okay.
00:12:08.960 This is great.
00:12:10.200 So I think all the Catholics in the crowd, this is what I see.
00:12:14.720 But Father, I need maybe a parental warning here.
00:12:19.180 You've seen the film.
00:12:20.480 What do you think?
00:12:21.240 Like, is it okay to what age?
00:12:24.140 It's listed as a build as a horror film.
00:12:27.220 Not, you know, some parents are like, I'm never going to take my mom.
00:12:30.200 What do you think age-wise?
00:12:32.120 Yeah, I mean, people here have been asking me that.
00:12:36.060 Definitely, I mean, teenagers are fine.
00:12:37.940 I think you could bring older children.
00:12:39.460 I wouldn't bring little children, but I think you could bring older children if parents explain to them what this is about.
00:12:45.080 I think it's really important that children go, that they understand that this isn't like Harry Potter, right?
00:12:50.340 We're seeing something that's real.
00:12:53.500 And to me, the fact that it's real is part of what makes it scarier, right?
00:12:58.560 Absolutely.
00:12:59.080 But as Catholics, we also have to understand the reality of evil.
00:13:05.060 And that's why I'm really proud of this movie is, yeah, I mean, it's scary, but it's scary in a very authentic way, right?
00:13:14.380 The enemy can be scary, but he's also a punk.
00:13:17.640 And you kind of see that in this film, that he's just trying to turn all of these people against each other.
00:13:23.180 And, but yeah, so I think parents, you know, they're safe to bring kids, but you need to explain to them what exorcism is.
00:13:31.720 And that is a real thing that happens in the church.
00:13:35.160 But Christ is already victorious.
00:13:38.700 And that was one of the conversations.
00:13:40.280 I had a conversation with Al Pacino about exorcism.
00:13:42.620 And he was asking me about the mind of what should a priest mentality be when he enters the room to perform any sacrament.
00:13:49.640 And I told him, I said, well, the priest has to first realize that it's not him acting.
00:13:55.180 But he also has to realize that Christ is already victorious.
00:13:57.820 We're just waiting for him to manifest his victory to us in this moment.
00:14:00.920 And that's, you know, that comes through in the movie as well, is the, you know, Pacino's character has just this overwhelming understanding of this is going to be successful.
00:14:11.860 And it's going to, it may kill us, but it's going to be successful in the process, right?
00:14:17.000 Because Christ has already won. 0.73
00:14:19.080 And we're just waiting for him to demonstrate to us, you know, how he's going to show his victory now.
00:14:25.820 And I think that's a good lesson for kids to see, honestly.
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00:15:16.080 I love the fact, honestly, that you got to sort of evangelize Al Pacino because he's in a role and, and, and then he's asking so very seriously.
00:15:28.420 The actors are like, they're dead serious about learning their craft and doing exactly.
00:15:33.920 And there you are put in this position to give him the truth and beauty of the church.
00:15:40.560 That's just, to me, that's a little miracle all by itself.
00:15:43.640 And I'll be honest, when, when, when I first got involved in this movie, I didn't even know Al was part of it.
00:15:48.600 Um, I found out maybe a month before they, they, they were, he arrived here, he arrived and they said, you know, Al Pacino wants to go to lunch with you.
00:15:55.080 I'm like, okay.
00:15:55.720 So, so, um, so we go and sit down, uh, in the dining room here at the rectory.
00:16:01.240 And, um, I was expecting him to ask me sort of just, you know, performative questions.
00:16:05.900 You know, how do you do this gesture?
00:16:07.300 How do you pronounce this word?
00:16:08.980 He didn't ask anything like that.
00:16:10.360 All of his questions were theological.
00:16:12.340 He asked, you know, why Christ needed to suffer.
00:16:15.060 Why does Christ decide to work through the ministry of priests?
00:16:18.500 Why would God allow this woman to suffer in this way?
00:16:21.040 And we had a long discussion about the story of the man born blind in scripture.
00:16:25.720 And, uh, you know, I raised the question and the Lord asked, why was this man allowed to be born blind?
00:16:31.180 And essentially the answer is because God was going to be glorified through him.
00:16:36.280 And, um, and that's what's God permitting here, right?
00:16:38.880 God doesn't will evil, but he permits it ultimately for our sanctification, right?
00:16:44.240 He, he desires our, our holiness and our love.
00:16:46.820 And we're not capable of loving him if we're incapable of not loving him, right?
00:16:52.640 We have to have that freedom of choice.
00:16:54.660 Um, and he, I mean, he seemed really interested in that.
00:16:58.060 And it was amazing to watch the filming unfold because the way Pacino acts is he'll do a few
00:17:05.920 takes on script and then he'll just ad lib a few takes.
00:17:08.860 And, uh, and I love sitting in the room and watching him ad lib because he would just pull
00:17:12.520 quotes out of my mouth, um, from our conversations and some of them made it in and I'll watch the
00:17:17.020 movie.
00:17:17.200 Like I gave him that line right there.
00:17:18.520 And, um, so he, he was really a lot of fun to work with.
00:17:22.480 I worked the most with Dan Stevens who plays the parish priest.
00:17:25.280 Maybe, uh, an Easter egg, little comment I can make to you is, uh, Dan's wearing my cassock
00:17:29.600 in the movie because, uh, when he was being sized for his, I was looking at him, looking
00:17:35.340 at him being sized.
00:17:36.200 And I was thinking, I, this looks like a costume, like one of these, you know, party city costume
00:17:40.260 cassocks.
00:17:40.940 Dan saw my cassock and he was like, father, your cassock is nicer than mine.
00:17:43.800 And I said, well, I think yours, uh, isn't exactly what you need to be wearing.
00:17:47.600 So he came and stood next to me and we're in the same height.
00:17:49.400 So I just loaned him one of my cassocks, um, for the film, but Dan was great to work with.
00:17:53.580 He also was very kind to some of our children from the parish.
00:17:56.380 That was the one request I made was I wanted some of the boys from my parish to serve for
00:17:59.780 the mass scenes.
00:18:01.220 And he was, he was great to them and he took photos with them.
00:18:04.260 Um, and, uh, he, we had a lot of fun, uh, going back and forth.
00:18:07.760 I got to teach Dan how to say mass in the traditional right.
00:18:11.060 Um, you know, and we had a lot of practice with that and I have a great clip of him instancing
00:18:15.720 the high altar and I'm off scene shouting, you know, instructions to him, you know, go to
00:18:20.220 the left, go to the right, you know, swing three times here.
00:18:22.540 And, and, um, but yeah, so it was, it was cool to do that.
00:18:26.440 Um, but it was also, like you said, it was an evangelization opportunity.
00:18:29.840 Um, a lot of the actors came to mass every week and a number of them were not Catholic
00:18:35.080 like Dan Stevens is church of England, but he came to mass every Sunday he was here.
00:18:38.900 And, um, you know, some of the, um, members of the crew, uh, would start to ask me questions
00:18:44.580 about the church, um, about halfway through filming, uh, they asked if I would begin blessing
00:18:48.760 the set every day.
00:18:49.680 And so I would go every morning and bless the stuff.
00:18:53.140 And, um, and I'm still in contact with some of them who have become interested in the faith
00:18:56.880 because of it.
00:18:57.500 So I think it was a good experience for them as well.
00:18:59.400 You know, the Lord worked through, um, their presence here in the church, uh, to sort of
00:19:04.480 show them that this was a little more than just a, you know, a film.
00:19:07.680 All right.
00:19:07.960 Um, we're talking about real things and, and the church is a real thing and God is a real
00:19:12.820 thing.
00:19:13.320 And, uh, and I think they experienced that.
00:19:16.060 Um, so I, I tell people that I, I was their host.
00:19:18.820 I was a consultant, but I also became their pastor for about three months.
00:19:21.560 And I try to, you know, approach it from that angle.
00:19:25.300 Praise God.
00:19:26.540 And, uh, sorry, father, I have to say it.
00:19:28.700 Praise God for you.
00:19:29.940 Not many people can do that.
00:19:31.360 Not many priests can do that.
00:19:32.540 And so God bless you.
00:19:34.600 That is so amazing.
00:19:36.940 Now I, I like, I have to run out and see the film immediately.
00:19:40.380 I want to talk about this too, because you get around, obviously the Lord is choosing
00:19:45.240 to work in your life because you're a friend of Harrison Butker.
00:19:49.420 You researched me.
00:19:52.500 If you wouldn't mind, uh, tell us a little bit about that.
00:19:56.200 You know, Harrison being all famous in football was great, but the, the, the speech he gave,
00:20:00.720 the commencement speech that just went insane, especially for people like me.
00:20:04.540 If you can tell us a little bit about that.
00:20:07.400 Yeah.
00:20:07.660 I mean, I, I don't want to share much about Harrison's private life.
00:20:10.380 Um, but, uh, I got, got to see him at the Superbowl cause it was in New Orleans and I
00:20:14.700 live in Natchez, which is just three hours North of New Orleans.
00:20:17.340 Um, my connection with him, it actually, it comes through seminary.
00:20:20.640 So, um, one of my best friends in seminary, Grant Asen was the punter for Georgia Tech
00:20:25.720 when Harrison was kicking for Georgia Tech.
00:20:27.380 And, um, there's a great video if you want to look it up where Harrison talks about his,
00:20:32.660 uh, return to the faith in college.
00:20:34.700 And it came through, Grant invited him to go to confession, um, which is a cool story.
00:20:39.140 Um, but so either way, so when I was in the seminary in New Orleans, Harrison would come
00:20:43.900 to visit Grant and Grant was interested in Harrison, um, having a priest, he could ask
00:20:49.140 questions.
00:20:49.740 So, and, um, and I wasn't really a sports fan at all.
00:20:53.220 So Grant said, you know, do you want to go to dinner?
00:20:55.260 You're probably not going to fangirl over this guy.
00:20:57.120 You know, you'll be able to have a good conversation with him.
00:20:59.440 And, um, Harrison ended up making this Google doc where he would just put in questions and
00:21:05.560 I could respond at my own time.
00:21:06.880 And we did that for several months and, um, became friends with that.
00:21:10.220 I, I taught Harrison how to serve Latin mass, uh, and, uh, helped him design the chapel in
00:21:15.300 their house and, um, just saying, you know, he's a, he's a very good man and very good
00:21:19.380 family.
00:21:20.020 I've become very close to his parents at his sister's wedding, uh, through all of that.
00:21:24.460 Um, yeah.
00:21:25.440 And his, you know, his commencement speech, you know, Harrison, um, he, I think he sees
00:21:30.120 himself as he's been given, uh, um, an opportunity through his gifts, uh, to evangelize.
00:21:36.740 And he doesn't shy away from that.
00:21:38.400 You know, I, I think he, he had a conversation two or three years ago where, you know, I was
00:21:43.300 worried that he could sort of get team T boat at some point.
00:21:45.780 And, and he sort of made a comment to me where he's like, well, I just sort of see it as if
00:21:49.680 that happens to me, then, you know, I had a good run and I did what God intended and
00:21:53.280 I don't want to shy away from the truth.
00:21:54.640 And I respect that in him.
00:21:56.060 So I mean, that's, I think that's why he wanted the approach that, um, that addressed
00:21:59.320 the way he did.
00:22:00.120 And he doesn't enjoy public speaking that much, but I think he, you know, wanted to take a
00:22:05.300 good opportunity with that.
00:22:06.420 And he surrounds himself with people who encourage him to do that sort of thing.
00:22:09.960 I'm proud of what he's doing with his platform and, and, um, and the way it's affecting other
00:22:14.620 people, you know, cause it, it is, it's people are hearing about him and, and that sort of
00:22:18.280 thing.
00:22:18.720 That's amazing, father.
00:22:19.740 And that basically is it.
00:22:21.440 Um, unless you had any final thoughts for us.
00:22:24.140 Yeah.
00:22:24.480 Um, other than just to encourage people to, to see it, you know, I, like I said, I think
00:22:28.240 it's a, it's a good movie, but it wasn't intended to be a Catholic film, but it's become
00:22:32.840 one, you know?
00:22:33.740 And, and, and I think the reason it's become one is because it's so fundamentally committed to
00:22:38.440 the truth and when you become committed to the truth, it's impossible to not be Catholic.
00:22:42.280 Um, you know, so, um, it's, it's, it's cool to see that happen.
00:22:47.200 And, and you're right about the reviews.
00:22:48.860 I've been saying the same thing when I've been reading them that, um, you know, the biggest
00:22:52.440 complaint people have seen to be given is, is that it's just, oh, it's so Catholic.
00:22:56.000 I'm like, perfect.
00:22:56.720 That's what I wanted.
00:22:57.520 You know, I wanted it to, I wanted it to be like that.
00:23:01.140 And I'm proud of the result.
00:23:02.640 You know, it's, I was nervous when they, when they sent me this reader, cause I didn't want to
00:23:06.300 regret it, but when I watched it, I was like, wow, I'm, you know, I'm very grateful that
00:23:09.200 I was part of that.
00:23:10.540 Um, so hopefully people can go see it.
00:23:12.580 Awesome.
00:23:13.500 Please do go see it.
00:23:14.620 Last thing for your father, give us your blessing, please.
00:23:17.140 Okay.
00:23:17.360 Well, may the Lord be with you and with your spirit, may almighty God bless you, the father
00:23:22.220 and the son and the Holy spirit.
00:23:24.300 Amen.
00:23:25.580 Thank you.
00:23:26.900 Father Aaron Williams, ladies and gentlemen, go see the ritual.
00:23:29.460 God bless you.
00:23:30.300 And God bless you.
00:23:30.980 Thank you.
00:23:31.760 And God bless all of you.
00:23:33.500 And we'll see you next time.
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