The John-Henry Westen Show - Catholics must have a 'warrior spirit' to defend canceled priests like Fr. Altman

00:00:00.000 With the cancellation of so many good and faithful priests and this simultaneous elevation of insanely what normally should be called heretical priests around the globe, we want to talk with someone who understands the Catholic world, someone who's been involved in the Catholic world as an activist, as a faithful Catholic, as someone who has advocated not only for Catholic priests, for Catholic children all over the world, has been involved in all of these crises.

00:00:27.700 We're going to be speaking with Liz Yor. You're going to want to stay tuned.

00:00:49.920 Liz, thank you for being with us on the John Henry Weston Show.

00:00:52.820 John, I'm thrilled to be with you today. Thank you for the invitation.

00:00:56.420 Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

00:01:03.400 Amen.

00:01:04.480 Liz, you're a lawyer. You're an activist. You're someone who has been involved intimately with the Church. You're a researcher.

00:01:11.300 You've done phenomenal things investigating what has gone on with the abuse crisis in the Church, with the crisis in the hierarchy.

00:01:18.880 I mean, you've got to—we could talk all day, but there's so many things going on right now with the cancellation of excellent, awesome priests, and the elevation of just unbelievably heretical priests. 0.99

00:01:35.820 So let's talk about what you're doing right now, this new project of yours.

00:01:39.660 Well, thank you, John. Yes, Francis would say, God is a God of surprises.

00:01:43.760 I spent much of my life investigating clergy abuse scandals and investigating the Vatican, and here I am almost instantaneously on the side of good, holy, faithful priests,

00:01:56.900 who have, who have, to my shock and horror, been canceled, banished, sidelined by their bishops for no reason, no canonical reason, and it is something that, frankly, has been going on for a while.

00:02:14.500 And, you know, shamefully, I did not know about this until recently, and I really feel compelled to speak up on behalf of them because I feel like this is a moment where, you know, all the forces are closing in on the Church, and I—we do need our good holy priests.

00:02:37.160 And, you know, interestingly enough, you know, it's as if for the last 50 years, they've taken away our liturgy, they've taken away the teaching of the Church, they've closed our churches, now they've—they shut down the churches for a year.

00:02:53.320 And then the last straw is that they're going to take away a good holy priest, and it's as if the people in the pews have said, enough is enough.

00:03:04.060 You know, it was, I think, Tip O'Neill who said, all politics is local.

00:03:09.300 Well, it's very much like, you know, this is—these are the priests that the parishioners have confessed to, have—these priests have baptized their children and buried their grandparents,

00:03:22.400 and have brought many back to the faith, and have grown the parish, and—and to our horror, because they speak the truth boldly from the pulpit.

00:03:35.240 But during this time when there's all sorts of lies and communists and diabolical ideology coming from all corners of the culture, including the Church,

00:03:47.240 we have these amazing, brave priests who, you know, frankly, John, when I was growing up, this—you know, these were the kinds of priests that I heard every Sunday from the pulpit.

00:03:57.440 But nevertheless, people have said, enough is enough.

00:04:01.840 We are not going to take it any longer.

00:04:04.960 You—you're not going to rob us of the last vestion of our faith.

00:04:10.740 And—and this is, you know, this to me is really where people have drawn the line in the sand.

00:04:18.660 And so, of course, everybody knows breaking news about Father James Altman, this bold, brave, smart, fearless, happy warrior.

00:04:27.900 This priest who has—also has a law degree—is really, you know, saying what is the truth, calling out the Democratic Party, calling out our so-called Catholic president,

00:04:42.500 and calling out the Democratic Party that had been for years under JFK, you know, a pro-life party,

00:04:48.860 and had overnight switched to the most pro-abort party, and also really under Biden.

00:04:57.700 John, you've done an incredible job in tracking the radical change in policies almost on a day-to-day basis, making them—you know, coming from the Biden administration.

00:05:11.000 And fortunately, we have a priest who's speaking out about it, Father Altman, and to our horror, you know,

00:05:19.160 we don't have the bishops in unison behind—behind Father Altman, behind this abomination of this Catholic president destroying the—all the pro-life progress that has been made in protection for the unborn. 0.52

00:05:35.560 And yet, God gives us a voice of this good holy priest, and now we find ourselves in the situation of he's going to be silenced, canceled,

00:05:48.140 as well as other good holy priests like Father Parker from the Diocese of Rockford, Father John Lovell from the Diocese of Lovell,

00:05:57.220 and many other—Father Kalachick, of course, from my diocese—good, holy priests that have really tried to stay faithful in the face of enormous pressure, both internally and externally.

00:06:12.620 And so this is really a moment I don't think we've ever seen in the church where it's really the faithful people that are standing behind their priests,

00:06:22.420 and it appears in opposition to the hierarchy.

00:06:26.240 Now, we know that Archbishop Vigano has spoken out very clearly and forcefully in support of Father Altman and others,

00:06:38.860 and he's obviously been that lone voice crying in the wilderness, but a clear voice, a brave voice, and a bold one.

00:06:48.700 That has really woken the conscience, I think, of the church, and certainly given all of us the—not only the hope that we're not abandoned in this dark time of the church,

00:07:02.240 but also the ability to see clearly the—you know, he talked about—and, John, in a lot of your interviews with him,

00:07:10.980 he talks about the convergence of the deep state and the deep church.

00:07:16.040 Archbishop Vigano understands this complex global dynamic that has been going on for many years, really sub-Rosa, 0.94

00:07:26.160 and now he has come to the surface.

00:07:29.040 And to, frankly, my horror, and I'm sure to many Catholics horror, this has been going on, 0.77

00:07:35.200 this working towards the new world order, the globalists, the transhumanism,

00:07:40.860 the Masonic, one-world religion, has been operational on a lot of levels, and now it's kind of come to light.

00:07:50.780 And I think this is as bracing and jarring as this is.

00:07:56.500 It allows all of us to see with clear eyes and to know the truth.

00:08:02.640 And once you know the truth, you're able to articulate and understand on a daily basis the events that occur.

00:08:12.440 But with Archbishop Vigano's guidance and insight—he had a foot in both worlds,

00:08:19.300 in the United States as well as in Italy and in the Vatican—

00:08:24.640 He certainly has helped me to understand what's been going on, certainly with the McCarrick phenomenon,

00:08:33.380 and also what's going on with all the church around the world.

00:08:38.640 And so this allegiance, this partnership between the deep state and the deep church here in the United States,

00:08:47.240 we really need voices in the church to speak out and to, like yours does, to speak for the baby in the womb.

00:08:56.520 And, you know, really, this is what it's all getting down to.

00:09:00.840 It's, you know, the core value of our faith and the survival of Western civilization is the child in the womb.

00:09:12.440 And so for that reason, it's absolutely critical that we continue to support Father Altman as he speaks on behalf of the baby in the womb,

00:09:26.620 on behalf of those priests who elevate this teaching, elevate it above all teaching in the Catholic Church.

00:09:35.140 So here we are. It's so interesting to me that here we are with the Eucharist as the source and summit of our faith

00:09:42.680 and the issue of pro-life now being front and center in this battle, this, you know, epic battle between the deep state and deep church and the rest of us.

00:09:58.460 You know, I say in many respects, bring it on.

00:10:02.880 I mean, this was often, you know, it was really about the child and protecting the innocence of the child.

00:10:12.620 That's what the clergy abuse scandal was all about.

00:10:15.660 We call our priests father because we expect them to be protective and paternal towards their people in the pews,

00:10:25.060 towards their parishioners, especially towards the children.

00:10:28.460 In passing on the faith, that did not happen.

00:10:33.240 And so it really does all go down to life.

00:10:37.320 That's the battle at hand.

00:10:39.560 It's every day, as you know, John, you know, it's become breaking news left and right,

00:10:46.560 you know, with Father Altman speaking out against the experimental vaccination or jab.

00:10:51.900 The masking issue, the closing of churches, all of these issues, you know, are facing everyone.

00:11:01.260 And so we really need spiritual guidance, fortitude, perseverance, and discernment in order to figure out where God wants us and his church.

00:11:14.360 What role do we need to play in this epic battle that's going on in society?

00:11:20.580 Exactly.

00:11:21.120 There's just so many things happening right now.

00:11:23.600 It feels like a total tsunami.

00:11:25.780 You've got the cancellation of the best priests while the elevation of the worst.

00:11:30.220 The worst in the true sense where these people are doing what Christ told them not to do.

00:11:35.780 Remember Christ saying, you know, it would be better for you that a millstone be tied about your neck than you mislead the little ones.

00:11:41.000 And in promoting homosexuality, as he does, Father James Martin is, and in promoting him, the Pope is, you know, misleading the little ones in the worst possible way, in the way, actually, the mainstream culture is pushing like nothing else. 0.68

00:11:55.700 And it's so unreal that this is all happening.

00:11:59.800 And it does feel, it does feel, it could feel totally overwhelming that Catholics don't know what to do.

00:12:05.900 But that's why I loved when you said, bring it on, because there's a warrior mentality.

00:12:10.320 We're called to be soldiers.

00:12:12.640 This is a fight.

00:12:14.100 Archbishop Vigano, who, you know, some of us are so privileged to know personally, he is such a teacher, such an incredible teacher.

00:12:22.440 I encourage everyone to go read that recent interview I did with him, where he writes about the struggles that we all have with sin.

00:12:32.340 But he takes it to a level, because so many people don't understand this teaching around homosexuality.

00:12:37.740 It's so complicated nowadays, because it's not taught, for one, but also because it is a difficult teaching.

00:12:43.700 But he relates it to everyone's struggle.

00:12:46.940 So he talked about how the married man has to, and woman, have to be faithful to one another.

00:12:52.860 How the, you know, person who has good food has to be guarding and fighting against gluttony.

00:12:59.300 So it's always a battle.

00:13:00.820 It's always a struggle, because this is a war.

00:13:02.560 We're called to be soldiers.

00:13:03.820 In this time, we're called to be soldiers actually to defend, in a way, our chiefs or our majors or our generals in the army who are still fighting for truth.

00:13:14.020 Because there has been, as Taylor Marshall might say, an infiltration.

00:13:18.940 And so we're dealing with this.

00:13:21.680 We're fighting this war.

00:13:23.360 How are the faithful fighting?

00:13:25.360 I want to talk a little bit about what you're doing right now with the Coalition of Cancelled Priests.

00:13:30.300 Yes.

00:13:30.720 Before I go into that, I wanted to mention, I think your audience should,

00:13:34.880 in Donetsk D'Souza, hosted this video of the San Francisco Gay Men's Choir, singing a song, We're Coming For Your Children.

00:13:44.920 Yeah.

00:13:45.200 Let's just take a second and play a bit of that right now.

00:13:50.160 We're coming for your children.

00:13:55.420 We're coming for them.

00:13:57.200 We're coming for them.

00:13:58.420 We're coming for your children.

00:14:00.860 We're coming for them.

00:14:02.320 We're coming for them.

00:14:04.880 Your children will care about fairness and justice for others.

00:14:11.700 Your children will work to convert all their sisters and brothers. 0.99

00:14:16.720 Then soon we're almost certain

00:14:20.840 Your kids will start converting new 0.99

00:14:27.080 The Gay Agenda is coming home 1.00

00:14:32.620 The Gay Agenda is here 0.95

00:14:36.520 It's chilling.

00:14:39.720 And frankly, you know, it's what I saw in the clergy abuse scandal with 80% of the victims being males.

00:14:47.440 And young males, some teen males, some even male children with a clergy that is 100% male.

00:14:54.340 So it's a message that we need to reinforce despite the tsunami of sexualization that's coming from every single corner, including getting canceled, getting punished, losing your job, any number of offenses that they could impose upon us for speaking the truth.

00:15:17.360 But people, people need to watch that with respect to the canceled priest organization, the coalition of canceled priest.

00:15:27.540 You know, I was privileged to moderate the event last week, and I was on the stage looking at, John, this was amazing.

00:15:36.040 In 10 days, this organization organized 1,000 people outside the city of Chicago to a rainy night in Chicago to attend.

00:15:47.300 It was wall-to-wall people, 1,000 people.

00:15:49.700 They could have had 3,000, 4,000 people there.

00:15:52.420 They were turning them away at the door to support this Father Parker, who had been sidelined by Bishop Malloy of the Diocese of Rockford.

00:16:02.580 Father Altman spoke, and to sit out on the, look at the audience, what I noticed for the first time, I knew a number of the people, many of them traditional Latin mass goers, very faithful people, all ages were there.

00:16:20.520 But there is a sense of, we're not going to take this anymore.

00:16:25.260 This was, some nice old ladies were screaming catcalls from the, you know, they have had it. 1.00

00:16:30.900 They loved their priests, and they wanted marching orders from, you know, Father Altman.

00:16:38.100 What do you want us to do, Father?

00:16:39.760 And, you know, interestingly, Father Altman, this was before he was sidelined by his bishop, but anticipating that action, he said, you know, as a former hockey player, it's time to drop the gloves.

00:16:53.020 You know, the Aussie, you know, I'm a Chicago Blackhawks fan, when they drop the gloves, you know, watch out for the fights that are going to begin.

00:17:01.100 And it's about getting that warrior spirit.

00:17:04.940 You know, as you said, John, we are soldiers of Christ by the basis of our confirmation.

00:17:11.020 And while none of us, up until maybe this moment in time, realized what that meant, now we're beginning to see that we need to take on the armor of Christ and fight for our priests.

00:17:23.860 And so I saw an energy, frankly, they're fed up, about, you know, and saddened and furious and really looking for direction.

00:17:34.080 You know, among the things that I say to people is we need to pray, first and foremost, for these canceled priests.

00:17:41.120 And there are hundreds of them, as you know, John Henry, all over the United States.

00:17:45.300 Many of them have just quietly slipped away, living at home with their elderly parents on the couch in assisted living.

00:17:54.340 I mean, that's what it's come to, because they don't have salary.

00:17:57.720 They're not, they're denied their vocation, the ability to say the mass and the sacraments.

00:18:04.080 It's just shocking to me.

00:18:06.100 This is just like a sword through their heart.

00:18:09.640 And so prayer, pray for these men and really pray for discernment.

00:18:15.000 Many of us said, you know, we need to close the wallet and support, financially support these priests so that they can not only hire canon lawyers, but civil lawyers and work their case through the civil and canon law courts.

00:18:31.580 And finally, I think it's important, it's important to protest and to protest.

00:18:40.000 And that's what I've learned from the old timers in the pro-life movement, you know, who in the 1973, Joe Scheidler and many others, you know, were in front of those abortion clinics, peacefully protesting, yet being arrested, you know, nevertheless.

00:18:57.020 And it was that handful of people, brave soldiers for Christ, fighting for the unborn that really slowly and gradually build the momentum to where we are, LifeSite News, you know, and really the great laws that are being put on the books in many, many states to protect the child in the womb.

00:19:20.420 And many of us won't see the impact of our work.

00:19:25.520 That's what we have to recognize.

00:19:27.300 We just have to pray and be guided by the Holy Spirit.

00:19:31.080 And, you know, I'm thinking of things, you know, protesting in front of Holy Trinity Church in Georgetown when Joe Biden goes to mass and apparently at the direction of Cardinal Milton Gregory is allowed to receive Holy Communion.

00:19:45.620 You know, you know, protesting this unfair cancellation and sideline by writing to the bishops in the nuncio.

00:19:53.180 We need to to really take a have a paradigm shift, I think, among the laity and that paradigm shift requires us not only upholding our good and holy priests, but also upholding the teachings of the Catholic Church.

00:20:10.340 And under Canon 2.12, we have an obligation to do that.

00:20:15.920 It was, you know, as we know, Fulton Sheen, you've said this many times, it is the laity, not the bishops and not even the priests that are going to save the American Catholic Church.

00:20:26.060 One of the really interesting things about what you said is that it is very, very true that the potentates in politics, but also in the church, they actually hate hassle.

00:20:40.320 Their lives often are built around hassle avoidance.

00:20:43.060 And so all of those emails and faxes and, God forbid, phone calls and showing up to make an appointment with your bishop, that is hasslesome.

00:20:56.260 But it's so important from a Catholic perspective, too, because so there's the political aspect, which is very, very good.

00:21:02.620 But there's also, from a Catholic perspective, as brothers and sisters of the bishop himself, who's also a Catholic, we have to be concerned for their soul.

00:21:12.280 And we know, often with these bishops, they're misleading our own children.

00:21:16.200 So they get the millstone award.

00:21:18.440 They get the, you know, the warning of our Lord, it would be better for you that you had a millstone tied about your neck and thrown into the sea.

00:21:25.580 They're doing that.

00:21:26.720 We have to warn them in charity and love, but we have to warn them.

00:21:29.360 It's also a hassle for them, and it might encourage them to change their ways, even out of the hassle that they're getting, let alone to do the truth and to avoid the millstone award.

00:21:43.840 But so there is that.

00:21:45.860 There is the shutting of the wallets.

00:21:47.460 It's an incredibly important point.

00:21:49.840 People need to stop giving.

00:21:51.700 If you are at an unfaithful parish, you must stop giving.

00:21:55.500 It is incumbent upon you.

00:21:57.220 Find a good parish.

00:21:58.180 Find a good priest, a good bishop to support.

00:22:00.900 Support one of these cancelled priests.

00:22:03.660 You should still donate.

00:22:05.340 Absolutely.

00:22:05.880 There's all sorts of great places out there to give your money to, but you must stop donating to unfaithful parishes.

00:22:12.960 It is a tax on you.

00:22:14.380 It's a tax on your children.

00:22:15.880 In addition, the going out to protests.

00:22:18.260 I was part of a privilege to be part of numerous protests.

00:22:21.960 One, I remember so distinctly outside of the offices of Cardinal Marx in Germany.

00:22:29.000 When he was going on to, you know, it was, you know, an incredible thing.

00:22:34.680 We stood there for over an hour.

00:22:36.440 We prayed and it was silent, but it attracted so much attention.

00:22:41.740 There's so many demonstrations like this that we can do, especially we can kneel on the pavement and pray.

00:22:47.300 And what a statement that makes and get someone who's good at public speaking to be able to give the message because reporters are going to come by.

00:22:53.720 People are going to be interested in what's going on.

00:22:55.480 What an incredible witness to the faith that we can make.

00:22:58.900 And Vigano was there.

00:23:00.480 Archbishop Vigano was there, correct?

00:23:02.160 He was there, not, he was sort of in disguise, if you will.

00:23:06.040 He wasn't there in a public way, but it was the time when he had to be so shielded because he was really on the run, as it were, from the authorities in the Vatican, which have, you know, made of him like public enemy number one.

00:23:18.200 It's unreal because he exposes what's actually going on on the inside.

00:23:23.620 And he's been so courageous.

00:23:25.460 And in a way, he really is a silver lining because in this time that seems so dark, and I guess in many of the times in the church where things have been so, so dark, our Lord raises up someone who's able to still bring out the truth, who's able to show the truth of Christ when there's so much darkness.

00:23:45.060 And the more of the darkness there is, the more those truth givers shine.

00:23:49.600 And so that's one of the incredible things about Archbishop Vigano.

00:23:52.800 You know, the times are so, so dark, and he seems to be one of the only voices, along with a number of others who are so, bring so much good to the church, like Archbishop, excuse me, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Cardinal Miller, and many others, Cardinal Burke, of course.

00:24:07.880 So it's just, there are not only silver linings, but these beacons are shining brighter because of the darkness of our times.

00:24:14.640 I would urge everybody, you know, we've always talked about the Catholic imagination, which is really fueled by the Holy Spirit.

00:24:21.940 And in the beautiful prayers and devotions of our church, when people say, well, what can we do?

00:24:28.100 I mean, I think of the Catholic imagination, just like your protest in front of Cardinal Marx.

00:24:34.260 That is the Catholic imagination at work.

00:24:38.080 And so I would urge people to really tap into that.

00:24:43.040 And you're absolutely right.

00:24:44.960 Having worked for media companies in the past, I would urge people, you know, if they're Netflix, if they're, you need to have your voice heard, whether it's advertising, you know, there's no excuse anymore.

00:24:58.660 People can just go on the internet and contact the head of advertising, the CEO of companies, the CEO of your parish or of your archdiocese and speak truth to power.

00:25:10.920 You know, there's a picture on the internet.

00:25:12.600 I'm sure you've seen, John.

00:25:14.260 It's of Soldier Field, the big stadium where the Chicago Bears have played for decades.

00:25:20.440 And it's 1943 in the midst of World War II.

00:25:26.420 And 80,000 people are filling the stadium at night with lighted candles, praying the rosary and adoration.

00:25:35.840 And, you know, I remember that time in Chicago, when you look out at the horizon, and there's nothing but Catholic steeples and church steeples.

00:25:48.060 And on every corner in some neighborhoods, there was a German church and Italian church and Irish church and a Polish church.

00:25:55.160 That was the faith that I grew up with.

00:25:59.040 And, of course, people were afraid because their husbands and sons were in World War II fighting overseas, a terrible war.

00:26:09.900 And so they turned to God in this magnificent, magnificent stadium full of prayers.

00:26:16.840 And, you know, that's my hope at some point, that we can bring the faithful back.

00:26:22.780 You know, millions have left the church.

00:26:25.420 They left the church after Vatican II.

00:26:27.860 They left the church during the clergy abuse scandal.

00:26:32.140 Many are now kind of sliding away because of the cyber masses and the churches were closed for a year because the church walked in lockstep with the government.

00:26:44.400 I'm just hoping that this, you know, struggle, this epic struggle that we're in is that opportunity to bring the millions back to the church.

00:26:54.400 One of the things I was thinking of this morning, actually, by praying my rosary, I was thinking, gosh, you know, we need to up our glorious mysteries.

00:27:01.040 Because I think a lot of people, you know, are now doing the calendar of the joyful on Monday, the sorrowful on Tuesday, the glorious on Wednesday, but then the luminous on Thursday, and then back to the sorrowful again.

00:27:12.400 And then Saturdays, they're often doing the joyful and back to the glorious on Sunday.

00:27:16.320 You know what?

00:27:16.820 I think we have to go back to the old practice of having at least the glorious mysteries on Saturday and Sunday and Wednesday so that there's a majority of glorious mysteries, only because it shows you Christ wins in the end.

00:27:28.480 That Christ is God and he will be victorious.

00:27:31.240 And this is what we need to focus on.

00:27:34.300 So up your glorious mysteries, practice that Catholic imagination, get out there. 0.66

00:27:38.860 One other thing you said was totally reminded me of something.

00:27:43.580 The warrior spirit that this is a war.

00:27:46.100 Michael Matt gave an incredible talk just last week at the Roman Forum.

00:27:50.320 And in his talk, he talked about how he was raised in an amazing Catholic family.

00:27:54.100 And his dad would encourage him to recognize this is a war.

00:27:59.820 That's how you bring your children into it and keep them faithful.

00:28:03.180 This is a war.

00:28:05.800 So awesome stuff.

00:28:07.440 Liz Yor, thank you so much for being with us on this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:28:12.040 You are a great warrior of your own.

00:28:15.360 And may God bless you for all you've done.

00:28:17.520 And thank you for keeping us up on what's going on.

00:28:20.340 Thank you, John Henry.

00:28:21.320 You too are a warrior.

00:28:23.320 And God bless all of you.

00:28:24.600 We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - July 13, 2021

Catholics must have a 'warrior spirit' to defend canceled priests like Fr. Altman

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