The John-Henry Westen Show

00:00:00.000 I could no longer continue in this situation. I did not know exactly what would happen to me, but I imagined there would be consequences.

00:00:17.000 Hello, my friends. You know that at LifeSite News, we have been going through a debate over whether Pope Francis is indeed the Pope or not.

00:00:25.080 There are many on either side of the question. As we know, Archbishop Vigano has just come out on the other side and for that face the charge of schism and an automatic excommunication, as they say.

00:00:35.820 Also, there was Archbishop Jan Pawelenga, who was in Kazakhstan, now living in Poland, who says as well that Pope Francis is not the true Pope, as well as the U.S. Bishop, René Grasida.

00:00:48.380 When doing these things, when making these pronouncements is, of course, very threatening.

00:00:54.860 As we know, Archbishop Vigano called excommunicated. So the penalties are grave.

00:01:01.740 There was a priest in Italy just a little while ago who also came out.

00:01:06.960 What was stunning about his coming out is that he is a very prominent priest in Italy.

00:01:13.320 Let me give you a little bit of the background of Father Giorgio Maria Fari.

00:01:19.160 He is born in 1972.

00:01:22.620 He obtained a bachelor's degree in fundamental theology in Milan at the theological faculty in northern Italy

00:01:29.260 and a doctorate in theology with a specialization in fundamental theology in Rome at the Pontifical Gregorian University.

00:01:36.940 Now, this is a very famous university and so a very lauded degree.

00:01:43.080 Before he had his priestly ordination, he served for six years as a volunteer ministering to men in prison in Milan.

00:01:51.160 And after ordination, he was an exalted member of the clergy.

00:01:55.180 He was a member of the Priestly Council of the Archdiocese of Milan from 2009 to 2020.

00:02:00.060 And he was secretary of the Diocesan Conference of Major Superiors for the Archdiocese of Milan

00:02:05.900 and the councillor of the Presidency of the Council of the Conference of Major Superiors of Lombardy from 2011 to 2019.

00:02:13.900 This is the organization, by the way, that represents the leaders of male religious orders and congregations in Italy.

00:02:19.500 He's also a published author of several books.

00:02:22.760 In 2013, he published the book The Holy Mass in Two Forms of the Roman Rite, Celebrate, Serve and Understand,

00:02:29.280 with a preface by Cardinal Antonio Canizares La Vera and an introduction by Father Nicholas Books.

00:02:38.040 In 2016, he published a book called The Perfect Sacrifice.

00:02:41.400 And in 2024, he published the book Man and the Church in Front of the Threshold.

00:02:46.960 Father is a discalced Carmelite, and we want to talk to him both about the reasons why he'd take this step,

00:02:55.520 even though he knew its ramifications, which are very severe,

00:02:59.120 and then asking him about the thesis itself and what drew him to this conclusion.

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00:03:44.360 Father Fari, welcome to the program.

00:03:46.100 Thank you for this invitation and this interview.

00:03:48.240 In nomine Patris et fili e spiritus santi. Amen.

00:03:52.660 Amen.

00:03:53.780 Thank you, Father.

00:03:54.700 It's good to be with you.

00:03:55.800 Let me start, and I thank you for doing this, by the way.

00:03:58.880 I wanted to start with this question.

00:04:01.720 Knowing that you might face severe sanctions for doing this,

00:04:06.800 what motivated you to go ahead with revealing your theory, your thesis on what's going on with Pope Francis?

00:04:15.060 It is.

00:04:15.880 My decision was a matter of conscience.

00:04:18.400 I could no longer remain silent.

00:04:20.760 Because when one sees the truth being denied, and millions of faithful falling into error,

00:04:27.840 staying silent becomes unbearable.

00:04:30.240 The one who should be the living rule of faith cannot make ambiguous statements or worse statements contrary to doctrine.

00:04:39.560 So I ask myself, if a divorced and remarried person, faithful, came to me and asked me,

00:04:47.220 how should I live, what should I do?

00:04:50.940 Should I say what Jesus teaches in the gospel, what St. John the Baptist sacrifices life for,

00:04:56.960 or what Pope Francis says?

00:04:59.500 So, and if a homosexual couple came to me asking for a blessing, what should I do?

00:05:05.000 Should I follow the teaching of the church reaffirmed in 2021 in the responsum signed by Cardinal Laudaria

00:05:13.340 and approved by Pope Francis, which states that the church does not have the power to bless same-sex unions,

00:05:21.460 or should I apply fiducia supplicants, also approved by Pope Francis, which says the opposite?

00:05:27.340 I wonder which Pope Francis should be followed, the one from 21 or the one from 23?

00:05:34.500 Can the Pope's magisterium change so radically in just three years on such an important issue?

00:05:40.820 I could no longer continue in this situation.

00:05:44.620 I did not know exactly what would happen to me, but I imagined there would be consequences.

00:05:50.400 Yet, I could not silence my conscience or deceive people just out of fear of the repercussions.

00:05:56.960 So let's get into the thesis of yours, which came out really at first as a sermon.

00:06:01.900 So in your sermon, you mention a long discernment process.

00:06:06.720 But why did you decide to reveal your thesis to the faithful at this time?

00:06:12.760 Thank you for this important question.

00:06:15.380 This is a very delicate matter, and I was aware of its disruptive implications.

00:06:22.040 For this reason, I waited until I was certain in my conscience of what I had come to understand.

00:06:27.520 I would have waited even longer, but several situations arose, increasingly close together,

00:06:35.300 which I had to decide whether my preaching should remain faithful to the doctrine of the Church,

00:06:40.380 as I have always known it and studied, a doctrine aligned with the gospel of Jesus Christ,

00:06:46.780 or if I should go against the truth and my conscience,

00:06:50.000 whether I should preach and act according to the current novelties.

00:06:55.640 Fully aware that what is being said nowadays does not constitute genuine acts of the magisterium.

00:07:01.960 Can you explain why Pope Benedict saying,

00:07:06.380 I declare to renounce instead of I renounce, is significant?

00:07:11.160 This question is very, very, very important.

00:07:14.000 So, it's important because, as various lawyers have explained,

00:07:19.700 such as attorneys Antonacci and Soma, and even Father Cornet,

00:07:25.320 the choice of words in a legal act is crucial.

00:07:29.500 And in a specific case, the words used by Pope Benedict have a precise impact.

00:07:35.720 Saying, I declare to renounce is not the same as saying, I renounce.

00:07:41.300 Let's consider an example.

00:07:42.440 If I say, I declare to buy a car,

00:07:46.240 this does not mean that I'm purchasing a car at that moment.

00:07:49.680 I am merely expressing an intention,

00:07:52.520 but the actual action may never take place.

00:07:56.440 Similarly, saying, I declare to do something in a legal context,

00:08:01.460 is not a definite act, but merely a promise or an intention.

00:08:06.960 To effectively renounce an office,

00:08:09.000 one must state unequivocally that the action is taking place in the present.

00:08:15.240 A correct formulation would be,

00:08:17.100 I renounce my office with immediate effect,

00:08:19.600 or I declare that I'm renouncing my office now.

00:08:23.480 And there is another element that fundamentally invalidates the declaration,

00:08:28.160 and that is the addition of a temporal clause.

00:08:30.660 The renunciation of the papacy has the characteristics of what is referred to,

00:08:35.900 in legal jargon, as a pure juridical act.

00:08:40.260 Pure juridical acts are acts which, due to their importance,

00:08:44.380 and to avoid possible uncertainties and ambiguities,

00:08:47.760 do not allow for the presence of accidental elements,

00:08:51.700 typically conditions or terms.

00:08:53.500 In fact, Canon 189.3 of the Code of Canon Law

00:08:58.740 stipulates that the renunciation of an ecclesiastical office,

00:09:03.040 that it's not subject to acceptance,

00:09:05.480 and this is the case with the pulp renunciation,

00:09:08.660 according to Canon 332.2,

00:09:11.880 must have immediate effect.

00:09:13.240 The addition of a temporal clause renders the act of renunciation

00:09:17.820 not only null, but even non-existent.

00:09:21.160 An example of another pure juridical act is marriage.

00:09:25.000 One cannot say,

00:09:26.580 I, John, take you marry as my wife,

00:09:29.040 starting from the next November 28th,

00:09:33.440 and expect the marriage to be valid.

00:09:35.980 It must occur immediately, without conditions or terms.

00:09:39.560 In the same way, the renunciation of the papacy

00:09:41.940 cannot be subject to a term.

00:09:44.100 So, along the same lines,

00:09:45.600 why is resigning from the ministerium, as you said,

00:09:49.800 instead of the munus significant?

00:09:52.680 Is using the incorrect terms or formulas

00:09:55.780 in this resignation letter

00:09:57.220 really enough to invalidate it?

00:09:59.880 Thank you for this question,

00:10:01.060 because it is a frequent one,

00:10:02.700 and one that has generated a lot of confusion.

00:10:05.680 There has been much debate

00:10:07.220 concerning the terms munus and ministerium,

00:10:10.020 and some canon lawyers argue that they are synonyms

00:10:13.680 and that Benedict could use them regardless.

00:10:18.880 This is not true,

00:10:19.980 and there is substantial evidence to support this.

00:10:23.680 Firstly, in the Code of Canon Law

00:10:25.740 and the Apostolic Constitution Pastor Bonus,

00:10:29.680 munus and ministerium are used differently.

00:10:31.980 A canon law expert, Cardinal Peter Erdogan,

00:10:36.140 published a study in 1989,

00:10:38.920 demonstrating that these terms cannot be used as synonyms

00:10:42.080 when they have a technical meaning.

00:10:44.020 The Code of Canon Law

00:10:45.140 dedicates only one canon

00:10:47.140 to the renunciation of the Pope,

00:10:49.160 canon 3322,

00:10:51.220 which says,

00:10:52.280 The Latin expression used by the canon

00:11:07.900 to refer to the action of the Pope

00:11:09.660 is muneri suo renunciat,

00:11:12.560 meaning renounce his office.

00:11:14.440 It is perplexing why Pope Benedict,

00:11:18.100 in performing such a significant act,

00:11:20.280 did not use the technical term munus,

00:11:22.900 specifically designed for this juridical act.

00:11:26.060 Why choose a different word

00:11:27.180 if he truly intended to renounce the papacy?

00:11:30.880 I repeat,

00:11:31.520 those are the only two lines of law

00:11:33.980 that cover the case of a Pope's renunciation.

00:11:37.080 You asked me whether

00:11:38.060 the use of incorrect terms or formulas

00:11:40.320 can actually invalidate the act.

00:11:42.500 The answer is yes.

00:11:44.880 In law, precision is crucial,

00:11:46.700 especially for juridical acts of such importance.

00:11:50.540 Imprecise or ambiguous terms

00:11:52.480 can compromise clarity

00:11:53.920 and render the act invalid.

00:11:56.520 In these cases,

00:11:57.440 the person's intentions must be clear

00:11:59.620 and there can be no confusion

00:12:02.000 about what is being renounced.

00:12:04.260 Further fundamental evidence

00:12:05.980 that the two terms are not interchangeable

00:12:08.300 is found in the official translations

00:12:10.560 of the Declaratio on the Vatican website.

00:12:14.320 This is a very important piece of evidence.

00:12:17.160 In languages such as English and Italian,

00:12:19.820 munus and ministerium

00:12:21.000 have been translated with the same term,

00:12:23.560 making it impossible

00:12:25.020 to understand the difference.

00:12:26.860 However,

00:12:27.620 the official German translation

00:12:29.280 is particularly noteworthy.

00:12:31.640 In German,

00:12:32.260 the words amst and dienst,

00:12:34.640 corresponding to munus and ministerium,

00:12:36.840 are distinct and are not synonymous.

00:12:39.300 In the German translations,

00:12:41.220 these terms were swapped.

00:12:43.300 This is a very serious fact,

00:12:45.360 creating that the impression

00:12:46.500 that Benedict had renounced the munus.

00:12:49.960 This exchange is an intentional manipulation

00:12:52.660 and one must ask,

00:12:54.680 why do this,

00:12:56.060 if using the correct term

00:12:57.260 were not important?

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00:13:31.060 Wouldn't it have made more sense

00:13:32.900 for Benedict to clamp down

00:13:34.480 on the Sanyalan Mafia,

00:13:37.020 who you claim in your thesis that,

00:13:39.820 and many speculate actually,

00:13:42.380 were plotting to elect a liberal pope

00:13:44.780 as his successor,

00:13:46.080 rather than resign invalidly

00:13:48.780 and drop hints,

00:13:50.420 hoping that good cardinals

00:13:51.680 would be able to decipher his secret codes?

00:13:54.740 Thank you for this question,

00:13:56.040 because it touches

00:13:56.700 one of the most important points of the matter.

00:14:00.040 I understand that this is a complex issue

00:14:02.320 and we cannot have certain evidence

00:14:05.120 to support this theory,

00:14:06.560 but there are many clues worth considering.

00:14:09.620 I have addressed these topics in my test,

00:14:12.080 also citing other authors

00:14:13.700 who have discussed them before.

00:14:15.840 Looking at all the available testimonies,

00:14:18.560 one comes to understand

00:14:19.700 that probably from the very beginning

00:14:21.800 of his pontificate,

00:14:23.320 and certainly more and more over the years,

00:14:26.360 Benedict was put in a position

00:14:27.920 where he could no longer exercise his authority.

00:14:32.040 The Roman courier was so infiltrated

00:14:34.160 by the Gnostic faction

00:14:35.440 and ecclesiastical Freemasonry

00:14:37.800 that he stripped him of power.

00:14:40.380 We must recall the media attacks and scandals

00:14:42.840 that marked the last period of his pontificate.

00:14:45.240 Certainly, Pope Benedict did not have

00:14:48.140 a sufficient number of lies

00:14:49.620 to launch a direct attack against the enemies.

00:14:53.520 And I'm not only referring to the cardinals

00:14:55.600 of the St. Gallen group,

00:14:57.280 but also the entire Gnostic faction

00:14:59.740 infiltrated in the Church.

00:15:02.360 Therefore, it is plausible

00:15:03.760 that he chose another way

00:15:05.360 to combat these forces.

00:15:07.360 In my text,

00:15:08.680 I put forward a hypothesis

00:15:11.100 that it is the only one

00:15:13.900 compatible with the facts

00:15:15.380 and clues we have

00:15:16.860 and does not imply

00:15:18.720 any morally grave act

00:15:20.940 committed by Benedict.

00:15:22.600 The only possibility

00:15:23.680 is that he had moral certainty

00:15:25.960 that the future conclave

00:15:27.920 would be invalid

00:15:28.860 and he decided to act

00:15:31.080 in such a way

00:15:31.740 that would allow him

00:15:32.680 to leave clues

00:15:33.660 for the truth to emerge.

00:15:35.600 Journalist, Italian journalist

00:15:38.020 Andrea Cionci

00:15:38.960 has even suggested

00:15:40.260 that Benedict was in danger

00:15:41.820 of his life,

00:15:43.400 presenting evidence

00:15:44.600 that points to possible attempts on him.

00:15:47.620 If Benedict had died,

00:15:49.040 the conclave

00:15:49.700 would have been called regularly,

00:15:51.500 but the machinations

00:15:52.680 of the St. Gallen group

00:15:53.860 could have still rendered it invalid,

00:15:56.120 as provided for

00:15:57.100 by University Dominici Grages.

00:15:59.960 However, in that case,

00:16:01.380 it would have been

00:16:02.180 much more difficult,

00:16:03.420 if not impossible,

00:16:04.400 to prove the invalidity

00:16:06.100 of the election.

00:16:08.120 Even Cardinal Burke

00:16:09.240 said in 2019

00:16:11.920 in an interview

00:16:13.280 with Patrick Coffin

00:16:14.500 that certain secret agreement

00:16:16.380 made before the conclave

00:16:17.900 could have invalidated

00:16:18.980 the election.

00:16:20.580 I note that,

00:16:21.340 according to my hypothesis,

00:16:22.900 the 2013 conclave

00:16:25.420 was invalid from the start

00:16:27.020 because it was called

00:16:28.020 while the Pope

00:16:28.700 was still alive

00:16:29.660 and not renounced

00:16:30.980 to his munus.

00:16:32.600 Cardinal Burke

00:16:34.180 assumes the conclave

00:16:35.600 was valid,

00:16:36.320 but his words

00:16:37.580 confirm that

00:16:38.480 such plots

00:16:39.560 could compromise

00:16:40.520 the validity of the election.

00:16:42.160 How would you respond

00:16:43.340 to prelates

00:16:44.460 who criticize

00:16:45.580 those who claim

00:16:46.380 Francis is not the Pope,

00:16:48.440 such as Bishop

00:16:49.400 Athanasius Schneider,

00:16:50.520 who has made

00:16:51.200 strong statements

00:16:52.320 like,

00:16:52.880 and I quote,

00:16:53.820 nobody has the power

00:16:55.080 to judge Francis' status

00:16:56.720 as Pope,

00:16:57.920 end quote.

00:16:58.340 And he says

00:16:59.400 the faithful

00:17:00.040 should respond

00:17:01.120 to Francis' errors

00:17:02.460 by resisting him,

00:17:04.300 not speculating

00:17:05.360 on his status

00:17:06.380 as the Roman pontiff.

00:17:08.320 Thank you

00:17:08.720 for this interesting question.

00:17:10.460 I know Monsignor Schneider well.

00:17:12.920 We have a long-standing friendship

00:17:14.460 and I appreciate him a lot.

00:17:16.280 He has been a guest

00:17:17.280 several times

00:17:18.220 at the convent

00:17:19.020 where I was prior

00:17:19.860 about 15 years ago

00:17:21.180 for celebrations

00:17:22.240 and conferences.

00:17:23.600 However,

00:17:24.140 I do not agree

00:17:25.000 with the position

00:17:25.660 he has taken

00:17:26.300 in this case.

00:17:26.920 Monsignor Athanasius

00:17:28.820 starts from the premise

00:17:30.020 that Pope Francis

00:17:31.000 is indeed the Pope

00:17:32.320 and his argument

00:17:33.600 centers on the fact

00:17:34.800 that a Pope

00:17:35.420 cannot be judged

00:17:36.240 even if he makes

00:17:37.400 brave errors.

00:17:39.740 It is true

00:17:40.240 that,

00:17:40.680 as a rule,

00:17:41.360 no one can judge

00:17:42.500 the See of Peter.

00:17:43.920 But here,

00:17:44.620 the issue is different.

00:17:46.220 It is not about

00:17:46.920 deposing a Pope

00:17:48.000 because I argue

00:17:49.380 that Francis

00:17:49.980 is not the Pope.

00:17:50.980 The Code of Canon Law

00:17:52.060 does not address

00:17:53.140 the possibility

00:17:53.760 of a heretical Pope

00:17:55.060 and Canon Law

00:17:56.440 literature

00:17:56.980 considers it

00:17:58.180 only as a theoretical case.

00:18:01.040 Monsignor Schneider

00:18:01.940 justifies his position

00:18:03.200 by trying to show

00:18:04.320 that there have been

00:18:05.340 heretical Popes,

00:18:07.060 but the few historical

00:18:08.540 cases of heretical Popes

00:18:10.420 concern theories

00:18:11.580 that were declared

00:18:12.840 heretical only later,

00:18:15.280 often on very complex

00:18:16.780 theological issues.

00:18:18.480 For example,

00:18:19.320 consider Pope Honorius

00:18:21.180 the focal point

00:18:22.620 of Monsignor Schneider's

00:18:23.920 argument.

00:18:25.440 Pope Honorius

00:18:26.140 adhered to

00:18:26.860 monothelism,

00:18:28.340 a heresy

00:18:28.900 concerning the

00:18:29.640 divine will of Jesus.

00:18:31.140 Today,

00:18:31.500 we are not discussing

00:18:32.480 new or subtle

00:18:33.760 theological questions

00:18:35.100 such as monothelism.

00:18:36.860 The situation

00:18:37.600 we are experiencing

00:18:38.540 is very different.

00:18:40.180 Pope Francis,

00:18:41.220 according to many,

00:18:42.420 has taken positions

00:18:43.600 that openly contradict

00:18:45.380 the doctrine

00:18:46.260 of the Church

00:18:46.980 as defined

00:18:47.980 by the Catechism

00:18:49.120 and previous

00:18:50.080 Magisterium.

00:18:51.680 This creates

00:18:52.560 a problem.

00:18:54.140 A Pope cannot,

00:18:54.960 by definition,

00:18:56.000 contradict the doctrine

00:18:57.580 he is called

00:18:58.340 to uphold.

00:18:59.940 The proximal rule

00:19:01.140 of faith

00:19:01.720 cannot contradict

00:19:02.760 the remote rule

00:19:04.080 of faith.

00:19:04.800 Canon 752

00:19:06.620 of the Code

00:19:07.340 of Canon Law

00:19:08.020 states,

00:19:09.460 although not

00:19:10.360 an ascent

00:19:11.020 of faith,

00:19:11.940 a religion's

00:19:12.660 submission

00:19:13.100 of the intellect

00:19:14.080 and will

00:19:14.680 must be given

00:19:15.760 to a doctrine

00:19:16.560 which the Supreme

00:19:17.900 Pontiff

00:19:18.540 or the College

00:19:19.920 of Bishops

00:19:20.500 declare

00:19:21.120 concerning faith

00:19:22.520 or morals

00:19:23.360 when they exercise

00:19:24.800 the authentic

00:19:25.580 Magisterium

00:19:26.420 even if they

00:19:27.480 do not intend

00:19:28.400 to proclaim

00:19:29.060 it by definita.

00:19:31.100 Therefore,

00:19:31.840 the Christian faithful

00:19:33.120 are to take care

00:19:34.680 to avoid

00:19:35.320 those things

00:19:36.140 which do not

00:19:36.980 agree with it.

00:19:38.200 The faithful

00:19:38.760 thus give,

00:19:40.180 and I quote,

00:19:41.180 religious submission

00:19:42.260 of the intellect

00:19:43.300 and will,

00:19:44.140 end of quote,

00:19:44.900 to the authentic

00:19:45.780 Magisterium

00:19:46.440 even if it

00:19:47.120 is not definitive.

00:19:48.740 If Pope Francis

00:19:49.740 is the Pope

00:19:50.300 then one must

00:19:51.040 obey him.

00:19:52.020 It is not

00:19:52.420 permissible to say

00:19:53.380 we oppose

00:19:54.140 will not implement

00:19:55.520 amoris laetitia

00:19:56.640 or fiducia supplicans

00:19:58.040 because if Pope Francis

00:20:00.080 is the Pope

00:20:00.820 these are act

00:20:01.940 of the authentic Magisterium.

00:20:03.980 But this creates

00:20:04.780 a contradiction.

00:20:06.160 Obeying the Pope

00:20:06.920 cannot mean

00:20:07.700 going against

00:20:08.740 one's unconscious

00:20:09.780 and the doctrine.

00:20:11.320 It is an

00:20:12.340 unprecedented impasse.

00:20:14.200 As I said

00:20:14.640 in my homily

00:20:15.720 never give up

00:20:17.040 on that line

00:20:17.680 Francis' doctrinal

00:20:19.300 errors are proof

00:20:20.820 that he is not

00:20:21.540 the Pope.

00:20:22.800 Thus,

00:20:23.240 it is not about

00:20:24.060 deposing

00:20:24.720 a heretical Pope

00:20:25.740 but about recognising

00:20:26.780 that Francis

00:20:27.440 were never Pope.

00:20:28.820 Therefore,

00:20:29.340 the solution

00:20:29.820 is not to seek

00:20:30.580 compromises

00:20:31.260 but to open our eyes

00:20:32.620 and word to demonstrate

00:20:33.740 that Francis

00:20:34.360 was never Pope.

00:20:36.220 My position

00:20:36.700 is that

00:20:37.240 at the root

00:20:37.860 of everything

00:20:38.380 lies the deliberately

00:20:39.700 invalid

00:20:40.540 renunciation

00:20:41.320 of Benedict.

00:20:42.720 I like Professor

00:20:44.800 Ed Maza

00:20:45.560 who speaks

00:20:46.620 of a substantial error

00:20:47.980 concerning the concept

00:20:49.260 of a dual papacy

00:20:50.260 I believe that Benedict

00:20:51.420 acted deliberately

00:20:52.820 with a precise plan

00:20:54.720 to save the Church.

00:20:56.280 This interpretation

00:20:56.920 is also shared

00:20:58.060 by Italian journalists

00:20:59.060 Andrea Cionci

00:20:59.840 and Patrick Coffin.

00:21:01.480 If your thesis

00:21:02.180 is correct

00:21:02.880 how can we now

00:21:04.740 get to a true Pope?

00:21:06.640 Will we ever have

00:21:07.720 another Pope again?

00:21:08.480 How do we do this?

00:21:09.520 Very important question.

00:21:11.400 Hopefully this answer

00:21:12.480 can enlighten many.

00:21:14.300 The only solution

00:21:15.420 is a canonical one.

00:21:17.460 True Cardinals

00:21:18.320 appointed before 2013

00:21:20.540 must publicly state

00:21:23.020 that Benedict

00:21:23.600 was the last Pope

00:21:24.760 that he remained Pope

00:21:26.480 until his death

00:21:27.240 because he never

00:21:28.400 validly abdicate

00:21:29.900 and thus elect

00:21:31.720 a new Pope.

00:21:32.640 Only they

00:21:33.560 the Cardinals

00:21:34.360 not those appointed

00:21:35.560 by an anti-Pope

00:21:36.460 otherwise

00:21:37.940 another anti-Pope

00:21:39.400 would be elected.

00:21:40.920 I do not agree

00:21:41.640 at all

00:21:42.040 with the actions

00:21:42.760 of those

00:21:43.360 who have separated

00:21:44.360 from the Church

00:21:45.420 claiming that

00:21:46.500 the Church

00:21:47.040 is corrupt

00:21:47.780 and must be

00:21:48.680 refounded somewhere else.

00:21:50.900 The Church

00:21:51.360 is one

00:21:51.840 holy,

00:21:52.780 Catholic

00:21:53.120 and apostolic.

00:21:54.400 The Church

00:21:55.140 is not entirely

00:21:56.460 and definitely

00:21:57.520 corrupt

00:21:58.180 because this

00:21:59.380 would be against

00:22:00.160 Christ's promise

00:22:01.200 non prevalebunt.

00:22:02.880 The Church

00:22:03.740 is afflicted

00:22:04.380 by a cancer

00:22:05.080 and extensive

00:22:06.200 infiltration.

00:22:07.260 The cancer

00:22:07.660 must be removed

00:22:08.460 and those

00:22:09.620 who can

00:22:10.120 and must

00:22:10.880 act

00:22:11.320 according to

00:22:12.040 Canon Lowe

00:22:12.540 are the

00:22:13.060 Cardinals.

00:22:14.320 Truth has

00:22:14.880 a power

00:22:15.320 of its own.

00:22:16.660 It moves

00:22:17.060 hearts

00:22:17.420 and saves

00:22:18.060 lives.

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00:22:43.480 So finally

00:22:44.560 Father,

00:22:45.060 why do you

00:22:45.500 think your

00:22:45.800 superiors acted

00:22:46.580 so quickly

00:22:47.180 to move

00:22:48.040 towards your

00:22:48.560 excommunication?

00:22:49.600 The letter

00:22:50.420 warning to

00:22:51.380 you to

00:22:52.760 recant your

00:22:53.300 claim was

00:22:54.260 sent just

00:22:54.900 four days

00:22:55.700 after your

00:22:56.500 sermon.

00:22:57.060 The admonition

00:22:57.780 actually was

00:22:58.520 delivered me

00:22:59.200 on October

00:23:00.180 the 15th,

00:23:01.480 so just two

00:23:02.320 days after my

00:23:03.140 sermon,

00:23:03.640 not four.

00:23:04.880 I can say

00:23:05.520 with certainty

00:23:06.240 why they

00:23:07.740 acted so

00:23:08.260 quickly.

00:23:09.220 To understand

00:23:09.740 their true

00:23:10.240 motivations,

00:23:11.080 one would

00:23:11.600 need to

00:23:11.900 ask them.

00:23:13.040 However,

00:23:13.620 I observe

00:23:14.560 that more

00:23:15.360 voices are

00:23:16.540 raising doubts

00:23:17.420 about the

00:23:17.920 validity of

00:23:18.640 Pope Francis,

00:23:19.620 and this can

00:23:20.720 no longer be

00:23:21.520 dismissed as

00:23:22.660 fancible theories

00:23:23.820 or the

00:23:24.700 product of

00:23:25.380 unbalanced

00:23:25.920 minds.

00:23:26.940 Even on

00:23:27.400 this platform,

00:23:28.500 figures like

00:23:29.260 Patrick Coffin

00:23:30.200 and Professor

00:23:30.880 Ed Matza

00:23:31.600 have recently

00:23:32.720 taken a stand.

00:23:34.380 It is possible

00:23:35.020 that the

00:23:35.400 Vatican is

00:23:36.000 beginning to

00:23:36.520 view this

00:23:37.140 issue as

00:23:38.000 a growing

00:23:38.500 threat and

00:23:39.680 wishes to

00:23:40.300 use a

00:23:40.900 firm hand

00:23:41.620 to send

00:23:42.460 a strong

00:23:42.900 signal and

00:23:43.540 discourage

00:23:44.180 further

00:23:44.580 criticism,

00:23:45.780 but I

00:23:46.220 repeat,

00:23:46.540 this is

00:23:46.800 just my

00:23:47.240 hypothesis.

00:23:48.740 Well,

00:23:49.020 Father,

00:23:49.520 let me just

00:23:50.400 say thank

00:23:50.880 you for

00:23:52.620 coming on

00:23:53.340 the program,

00:23:54.020 but more

00:23:54.780 importantly,

00:23:55.740 for your

00:23:57.440 willingness,

00:23:58.280 despite what

00:23:59.560 could come

00:24:00.060 to profess

00:24:02.180 the truth

00:24:02.600 of your

00:24:02.840 conscience,

00:24:03.500 to speak

00:24:04.540 for the

00:24:05.780 faithful who

00:24:06.660 are so

00:24:07.000 confused in

00:24:07.600 our day.

00:24:08.020 And I

00:24:08.200 would ask

00:24:08.580 Father,

00:24:08.960 before we

00:24:10.100 end off,

00:24:10.440 if you

00:24:10.720 could give

00:24:11.420 us your

00:24:11.760 blessing,

00:24:12.280 please.

00:24:12.480 In

00:24:12.780 nomine

00:24:13.020 Patris

00:24:13.620 et

00:24:13.880 Filii

00:24:14.460 et

00:24:14.660 Spiritus

00:24:15.340 Santi,

00:24:16.140 Amen.

00:24:18.600 Gloria

00:24:19.320 Patri

00:24:20.060 et

00:24:20.380 Filio

00:24:20.940 et

00:24:21.240 Spiritui

00:24:21.800 Santo,

00:24:23.160 Sicut

00:24:23.520 eratim

00:24:24.060 Dominus

00:24:30.460 Vobiscum

00:24:31.300 et

00:24:31.960 com

00:24:32.240 Spiritu

00:24:32.860 Tuo.

00:24:34.040 Benedicat

00:24:34.680 Vos

00:24:35.120 Onnipotens

00:24:35.880 Deus,

00:24:36.720 Pater

00:24:37.220 et

00:24:37.620 Filius

00:24:38.400 et

00:24:38.800 Spiritus

00:24:39.440 Santus.

00:24:41.040 Amen.

00:24:41.920 Amen.

00:24:42.860 Thank you

00:24:43.480 so much

00:24:43.760 Father,

00:24:44.140 and God

00:24:44.340 bless you.

00:24:45.240 Grazie

00:24:45.680 Padre

00:24:45.960 Grazie

00:24:46.660 anche

00:24:47.260 voi.

00:24:47.920 Thank

00:24:48.160 you.

00:24:48.860 Thank

00:24:49.380 you,

00:24:49.840 and God

00:24:50.460 bless

00:24:50.720 all of

00:24:51.140 you,

00:24:51.820 and we'll

00:24:52.300 see you

00:24:52.540 next time.

00:24:57.380 Aloha

00:24:57.860 everyone,

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Challenging the Francis' Papacy ｜ Fr. Giorgio Maria Faré and the Church’s Crisis

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