The John-Henry Westen Show - Child of Sexual Assault Shares Why He's Thankful that His Mother Chose Life

00:00:00.000 My conception, how I was brought into the world, even though horrific and terrible and evil,

00:00:05.800 like, you don't know the plans God has for that life.

00:00:09.100 And in my opinion, all life is sacred.

00:00:19.360 Shout out to all young people in the pro-life movement, or not in the pro-life movement,

00:00:23.780 but thought to defend life, thought to speak about abortion to your friends at college.

00:00:28.700 It's a really tough thing.

00:00:30.520 It's a really tough thing because even if you get to move the needle a little bit,

00:00:34.980 often people will come back with the very question that you will hear over and over and over again,

00:00:39.400 that is, what about rape and incest?

00:00:41.840 At LifeSite News, we are very pleased to know Rebecca Kiesling.

00:00:45.080 She is a great pro-life activist, has been for a long time,

00:00:48.100 but when everybody got to know her first, it was actually over this very issue of rape. 0.99

00:00:53.260 She's a, she says, a product of rape. 0.99

00:00:55.940 But she's also a very beautiful, very successful lawyer. 0.98

00:01:01.920 And that has so shattered the image of what people think of when they think of rape and incest

00:01:07.320 and what happens to the mother who experiences rape or incest.

00:01:12.540 She's run an organization called Save the One,

00:01:14.620 which talks not only about women who have been raped, but also the other side.

00:01:20.420 Women who have gone ahead and kept their baby, who were in a situation of rape,

00:01:26.360 and those who have killed their babies through abortion and the suffering and torment that comes with that.

00:01:33.300 She has brought us to so many heroes sharing their testimonies of keeping life after rape and incest,

00:01:42.180 of being the children of those who were raped.

00:01:45.580 And we're pleased to bring you one of those stories today.

00:01:48.320 His name is Stephen Thin Holland.

00:01:51.400 You've probably seen him on a live-action video, which went crazily viral.

00:01:58.040 Stay tuned for this episode of the John Leonard Weston Show.

00:02:02.740 Stephen Thin, thank you so much for joining us.

00:02:04.580 It's a pleasure to be with you. Thank you for having me.

00:02:07.120 Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.

00:02:08.660 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

00:02:15.900 Stephen Thin, if you can, just tell us, first of all, your story, just a summarized version of your story.

00:02:21.800 Yeah. Well, when I was eight years old, I had some friends of mine at school come to me and say,

00:02:26.760 you're weird and different.

00:02:28.020 And I'm like, that's not very nice. What are you talking about?

00:02:30.120 And they said, well, you're the wrong color.

00:02:32.480 And I look at my hand as an eight-year-old little boy, and I'm like, you know what?

00:02:36.580 I've never thought about this, but I am a different color.

00:02:40.320 I wouldn't say the wrong color. That's not very nice.

00:02:43.040 But I looked at my hand. I said, well, I look different than the rest of my family.

00:02:46.880 They were white, and I'm biracial.

00:02:49.560 So needless to say, I had some questions, right?

00:02:52.140 So this little eight-year-old boy comes home, and I'm sitting on the edge of the bed with my mom that night.

00:02:56.820 And I really didn't want to talk about it because I was hurt by what they said.

00:03:01.220 But I had a mom that was kind of nosy and in my business, you know?

00:03:04.960 And so before I laid my head down on the pillow, I've told her exactly what happened that day.

00:03:09.980 And so then we have this conversation of I found out at eight years old that I was actually adopted.

00:03:14.620 So she told me that at seven days old, they brought me into the family as a seven-day-old child.

00:03:21.920 And as a matter of fact, I was on the same bottle of formula I left the hospital with.

00:03:26.300 My legs were drawn up into my body.

00:03:28.360 I was very malnutritioned.

00:03:30.220 They told me that they actually told the family that I probably wouldn't survive, that I just needed a safe place to come.

00:03:37.380 And what I didn't know is two years prior to them bringing me into the home, they had actually had a miscarriage, and they had lost a 22-week-old little boy.

00:03:47.340 So God used that pain of their loss to start foster parenting.

00:03:52.180 So they had four biological children.

00:03:54.300 Now, this is kind of funny to me.

00:03:56.620 The four biological children, two boys, two girls, was Ricky, Rod, Renee, and Robin.

00:04:01.580 And then there's Stevenson, right?

00:04:03.300 You would have thought if I didn't recognize the color was different, maybe, you know, like I'd never thought about my name being different.

00:04:09.640 But what I like to say is, you know, people ask me, how did it take eight years for you to realize your skin color was different and all these things?

00:04:17.640 And I think love goes deeper than DNA.

00:04:21.080 Love goes deeper than color and blood, right?

00:04:24.100 So the reason I didn't know those things is because I was showered with love.

00:04:27.640 So very loving family, but if I'm being honest, that's the first time in my life I ever remember feeling broken.

00:04:35.980 It's the first time in my life I ever remember asking God why.

00:04:40.520 You know, obviously, why do I have to be the wrong color?

00:04:44.040 Why do I not look the same?

00:04:46.080 But what really hit deep was why would a mother not want her son?

00:04:50.180 I felt like I was thrown away, that I wasn't worth enough to be kept.

00:04:54.640 So that little eight-year-old boy, right, is struggling with that.

00:04:59.100 That's what I'm facing.

00:05:00.200 And, you know, you fast forward middle school and high school.

00:05:05.080 I didn't want to be weird and different anymore.

00:05:07.100 So I've been 200 and none of your business pounds since seventh grade, okay?

00:05:10.980 So I was a fullback and middle linebacker, baseball player.

00:05:15.760 Sports became the way that I could find identity and worth.

00:05:19.580 Like, I'm going to hit you really hard if you want to talk, you know, tell me I'm weird and different.

00:05:23.100 But so, you know, my junior year of high school, I actually had a back surgery, ended my football career.

00:05:31.820 I felt like here I am again asking God why.

00:05:35.420 God, I thought, you know, I was going to be playing in college somewhere.

00:05:38.800 So I actually, because of that, I walked on.

00:05:41.100 I went somewhere I didn't expect to go.

00:05:43.160 I went to a little small school in Bristol, Tennessee, about four hours from my hometown.

00:05:48.560 And long story short, I played baseball, earned a scholarship.

00:05:52.440 But really, I think God had me there for one reason, that's to meet my wife.

00:05:56.860 I'm married up, literally.

00:05:58.600 She's 5'11", and I know I'm sitting down, but, you know, I'm not that tall.

00:06:03.160 But she was from Tampa, Florida, a volleyball player. 1.00

00:06:05.800 We met and we started talking about what would a family look like, you know, if we get married.

00:06:11.540 And do we want to start early?

00:06:13.140 How many kids do we want to have? 0.98

00:06:14.900 And she wanted like 16, you know.

00:06:16.840 And I was, you know, anyways, we have four.

00:06:21.260 But we get married in June of 2006 in Tampa, Florida, her hometown.

00:06:27.240 And very early on, I was a minister working with youth.

00:06:31.500 And my wife was pregnant with our first pregnancy.

00:06:34.620 And eight weeks into our pregnancy, she had a miscarriage at home alone while I was at church working with our students.

00:06:42.340 I come back home and find her in the floor, doubled over in pain. 0.80

00:06:46.580 And, you know, here we are both asking God, what, why?

00:06:49.680 And so we've lost our first baby.

00:06:51.640 We have a successful pregnancy, who's our 16-year-old daughter today.

00:06:56.040 Our third pregnancy, 10 weeks in, we have another miscarriage.

00:06:59.580 So we've lost another baby.

00:07:00.780 This time she had to have a DNC, so she had to have a surgically removed, lifeless baby in the womb. 1.00

00:07:07.820 And so she went into the doctor's office with a baby in the womb, but came back to me with an empty womb. 1.00

00:07:14.140 And for this dad's heart, it just ripped me apart.

00:07:17.200 I went into depression.

00:07:19.540 I'm asking God again.

00:07:20.960 I'm mad, frustrated at God, like, why?

00:07:25.260 But in the middle of that pain and that brokenness, we're on our fourth pregnancy.

00:07:30.160 So we lost our eight-week-old, had Isabella, who's our 16-year-old, lost our 10-week-old, third pregnancy.

00:07:36.680 And then we're pregnant with Eliana, who's our 13-year-old.

00:07:39.380 And I'll go ahead and tell you we have another daughter.

00:07:41.760 Notice no guys.

00:07:42.880 It's just me alone, three daughters and my wife.

00:07:47.440 But with the fourth pregnancy, in the middle of that pain and depression, just the spirit of God said, it's time.

00:07:55.620 And I'm like, it's time for what?

00:07:56.900 I need more information.

00:07:57.860 It said, it's time to look for your mom.

00:07:59.860 So from eight years old to 27 is where I find myself in 2009.

00:08:05.240 I had all these questions, right?

00:08:06.940 Why, why, why?

00:08:08.040 Why would my mom not want me? 0.99

00:08:09.760 And they're about to be answered.

00:08:12.120 When I was eight years old, having that conversation with my mom, there was a moment where she gave me a folder.

00:08:18.320 It was eight pages of typewriter paperwork.

00:08:20.140 So I had my birth certificate and I had seven pages of family information.

00:08:25.100 And I took that paperwork and started searching on Google.

00:08:29.560 And three days into the search, I found a man named Steve Holt.

00:08:33.280 He's a magician and ventriloquist from Spartanburg, South Carolina.

00:08:36.620 Now, what's significant about that is my birth mom's name was Glenda Sue Holt.

00:08:41.520 So the last name matched.

00:08:43.840 But I don't know if, I know you all don't know me.

00:08:46.500 You don't know me super well. 0.96

00:08:48.040 But I don't like clowns.

00:08:49.620 I don't like Chucky, It, you know what I'm saying?

00:08:53.180 They freak me out.

00:08:54.460 This man is a magician and ventriloquist.

00:08:56.900 I didn't want to be on this man's site, you know?

00:08:59.720 But something inside of me said, keep looking.

00:09:02.680 So I look on his bio and every single name on my paperwork from 1982, I was born March 31st, 1982, matched what his online information said.

00:09:13.940 And one specific name was Glenda Sue Holt, who is a baby sister.

00:09:17.940 And that's my mom.

00:09:19.800 That's my mom's name.

00:09:21.200 So I sent him an email.

00:09:23.320 And then we do a phone call.

00:09:25.060 And sure enough, at 27 years old, I met my birth uncle.

00:09:28.260 I flew from Tampa to South Carolina to meet with him about a month later.

00:09:33.220 And he actually told me how I came to be, which I did not know.

00:09:37.720 And the story is that there were six kids.

00:09:41.540 So he's one of six.

00:09:42.700 Their parents died at an early age, and they were all thrown into orphanages.

00:09:50.580 All of them, except for him, are mentally handicapped, including my mom.

00:09:54.900 So my mom only functioned as an 11-year-old mental capacity. 1.00

00:09:58.300 So when she aged out of the system, she actually became a ward of the state of Georgia and was placed into a mental facility. 0.71

00:10:08.080 And while she was there, she was actually raped by five men.

00:10:11.800 We don't believe it was staff. 0.62

00:10:13.300 It was outside of the facility.

00:10:15.360 But she gets pregnant with me. 0.99

00:10:18.400 But here's the thing.

00:10:19.180 She's 18 outwardly, but she's only 11 mentally.

00:10:22.880 So does she even know what happened to her, the trauma from that?

00:10:27.540 She definitely didn't want to tell anybody.

00:10:29.960 So it was some time had went by before the facility realized that she was pregnant.

00:10:34.380 But when they found out, this is a state-ran facility.

00:10:37.340 She has no resources, no job, no family. 1.00

00:10:39.740 They were pressuring her every day to abort her baby, right, because, you know, again, statistically, she didn't have the resources.

00:10:47.760 She couldn't care for me.

00:10:49.500 But this woman that I call my hero, she valued life enough, even with only an 11-year-old mental capacity, to fight for me.

00:11:01.500 So those questions, you know, for years that I had, like, you know, why, why?

00:11:07.420 You know, did she really love me or care for me?

00:11:10.180 She fought for me, and she carried me homeless, ran away from this facility literally on her own, and fought for her baby. 1.00

00:11:18.180 So for the duration of the pregnancy, she's on the streets, and by the end, she's nine months pregnant, living in a cardboard box behind an old grocery store in this little country town.

00:11:29.240 It's in Tennessee, called Whitwell.

00:11:32.240 If you're from there, they say Wootwell.

00:11:34.940 But guess what family lived there?

00:11:37.240 Only the grace of God, right?

00:11:39.080 The Holland family that had four kids, Ricky, Rod, Renee, and Robin, and they were longing for one more baby boy.

00:11:46.080 And God placed her in that town behind that store in that box.

00:11:51.040 And this 16-year-old boy was skipping school one day, up to no good.

00:11:54.320 He saw the box move, pulls the box back.

00:11:57.600 Here's this my mom, pregnant with me, nine months pregnant. 0.91

00:12:00.680 And he loads her up, like walks her home to his family.

00:12:03.960 So this is a 16-year-old boy, 18-year-old, nine-month pregnant girl, walks in the front door and says, hey, Mom and Dad, look what I found.

00:12:10.160 Can we keep her? 0.94

00:12:11.980 So can you imagine, you know, like your 16-year-old son walking in with an 18-year-old pregnant woman? 0.94

00:12:16.820 But they said yes, and they cared for us for two weeks until she gave birth to me in the hospital.

00:12:23.040 And everybody wants to know, like, Stephen Thin, like, where does that name come from?

00:12:26.860 She gave it to me.

00:12:28.060 She said, I want to name him Stephen Thin William.

00:12:30.540 So William is my middle name, and whoever heard audibly her speak the first name, they put Stephen Thin together.

00:12:37.740 So it's S-T-E-V-E-N-T-H-E-N. 1.00

00:12:40.800 So I find all this out at 27 in my uncle's living room, but the story's not over yet.

00:12:48.020 Then he looks at me, and it kind of gets awkward and silent, and he says, I want to tell you something.

00:12:52.920 He's like, your mom's alive, and she's five hours south of where we sit right now.

00:12:57.720 And he asked me this question.

00:12:59.260 He said, do you want to meet her?

00:13:01.240 And what the spirit of God had spoken to me was, a couple months before that, it's time.

00:13:07.640 So we jumped in the car the next day.

00:13:09.660 I wanted to go right then and there, but it was at night.

00:13:12.600 And we drove five hours down to this mental facility that she was living in, kind of like a nursing home situation, 0.98

00:13:19.720 men on one side, women on the other. 0.95

00:13:21.480 We had this plan of interacting and meeting, like, in her room, but God just kind of took over,

00:13:30.540 and we had a video camera rolling.

00:13:32.540 My uncle did a magic show for the residents to kind of lighten, which was really hilarious

00:13:37.100 because you had schizophrenics, and they were nonverbal, and he's putting bottles through people's bodies.

00:13:42.160 And I'm just saying, it was weird, right?

00:13:44.880 And they were freaking out.

00:13:46.220 But it kind of lightened the mood.

00:13:48.740 And there was a moment where my mom started singing a song.

00:13:53.060 And so I'm a worship leader, singer, songwriter.

00:13:55.800 And she gets done singing, and it didn't really make sense.

00:13:59.800 You know, in her 11-year-old mind, she's 46, but she's still 11 mentally.

00:14:04.160 I just felt led to come sing Amazing Grace.

00:14:06.920 And I started singing Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved.

00:14:12.340 And I lost it, started crying, because this woman that I'm looking at literally saved my life.

00:14:18.680 And then she finishes the verse, like every word perfect, on point, on key.

00:14:25.240 And then my uncle has the honor of actually introducing us right there in that moment

00:14:29.400 while the camera's rolling.

00:14:31.100 So there's actually a video on YouTube of me meeting my hero, Mama Glenda, for the first time.

00:14:38.300 Beautiful.

00:14:39.200 Let's take a look at that.

00:14:40.700 The family that you gave him to take care of, their last name was Holland.

00:14:50.900 So his name is Stevenson William Holland.

00:14:56.700 And this is him.

00:15:00.380 Right.

00:15:01.020 I love you, my son.

00:15:16.980 I'm pleased to be so famous.

00:15:18.860 This is your boy.

00:15:20.620 He's a good boy.

00:15:25.720 I'm your real boy.

00:15:28.020 You are his real boy.

00:15:30.160 And you've been the best mama you could be, too.

00:15:39.840 I'm so happy you made the choice that you did.

00:15:42.840 I love you, too.

00:15:46.040 Tell us now, after that incredibly moving meeting, what was the answer in your heart from God?

00:15:56.400 Would you say the answer to the why question?

00:16:02.360 I was at peace just to have the opportunity to look my mom in the eyes and tell her that I loved her

00:16:11.960 and thank you for giving me life.

00:16:13.860 That's all I needed.

00:16:15.440 And I would have been at peace with that.

00:16:16.840 But God, I think, gave me so much more, that I was loved, that I did matter.

00:16:24.760 She looked at me.

00:16:25.800 You know, in that video we just watched, she looked at me and said, I love you, son.

00:16:29.180 I would have never given you up if I could have kept you.

00:16:31.940 She wanted me.

00:16:33.420 Right.

00:16:33.760 But she just didn't have the mental capacity to care for me. 0.99

00:16:38.440 But she did have the love, right, to give birth to her son.

00:16:43.620 She valued me enough.

00:16:45.100 Even though the world was telling her that it wasn't worth it and she shouldn't have to go through that,

00:16:50.180 even with an 11-year-old mental capacity, she knew the value of life and the strength of a mother.

00:16:56.480 She truly is the hero of the story.

00:17:01.660 This normally is the poster child for abortion. 1.00

00:17:07.020 These are the cases that Planned Parenthood goes, International Planned Parenthood goes from country to country

00:17:13.400 and all the countries where abortion is illegal and brings out these cases.

00:17:18.620 These young woman, young girl who's raped, should she be forced to carry that child? 1.00

00:17:26.580 Wreck her life and so on.

00:17:29.100 What's your message to young people who are plagued with that mentality?

00:17:35.260 Because that's what they get all day, every day.

00:17:38.120 This is the horror situation.

00:17:40.000 What is the situation for real?

00:17:42.900 My response to that is I matter.

00:17:46.020 My life matters.

00:17:46.980 I have three beautiful daughters that are here because she chose life for their dad. 0.93

00:17:52.680 My wife has a husband that she loves and supports because of choosing life.

00:17:57.020 A lot of people, on the front end of that, you didn't know what my life would look like.

00:18:01.160 You didn't know the story I would have that I matter.

00:18:05.000 My conception, how I was brought into the world, even though horrific and terrible and evil,

00:18:11.140 you don't know the plans God has for that life.

00:18:14.660 In my opinion, all life is sacred.

00:18:17.100 Hopefully, I can be an example of that with my story and be bold enough to share.

00:18:23.400 I tell people I have to touch my pain a lot of times.

00:18:27.440 Every time I share, I shed tears.

00:18:29.540 But I know somebody watching this is maybe going to find healing.

00:18:32.380 And that's part of the purpose that I have on this planet that I was given, right?

00:18:37.660 Because somebody saw value enough to choose life for me, even though the circumstances were not great.

00:18:43.380 Tell us what you know of your mom's sentiments, feelings, even though they're of a minor, you might say.

00:18:54.000 What are those and how does she feel God has touched her life amidst what would have been, what is an unspeakable crime and horror?

00:19:04.880 But tell us about that.

00:19:06.200 Well, I actually lost my mom on Thanksgiving of 2020.

00:19:12.880 She passed away.

00:19:14.520 But I had 11 years with her.

00:19:16.740 And she met her granddaughter.

00:19:18.980 They call her Gigi, Grandma Glenda.

00:19:22.860 Every time that I would walk into this facility, I would drive seven hours to visit her.

00:19:28.400 And every time I walked in, you know, I'm her son.

00:19:31.980 She recognized that, right?

00:19:33.760 And she loved me and she hugged me and we had this beautiful moment, you know, moments that we got to share over that 11 years.

00:19:41.480 So I think, and again, with her granddaughters, she, you know, she died at 57 years old.

00:19:48.500 But for 11 years, they got to color with her, got to play with baby dolls.

00:19:52.860 I mean, because she was an 11-year-old child, right?

00:19:55.740 But she literally got to play with her grandkids. 0.96

00:19:58.840 And I'm thankful for that, right?

00:20:00.780 Her life had worth and value, even though a lot of society would say, well, you know, she only functions as an 11-year-old.

00:20:08.520 She's mentally, you know, handicapped and challenged.

00:20:11.240 But she's somebody's mom and she's somebody's grandmother.

00:20:14.320 And she deserved to be loved and respected.

00:20:16.940 People say, God can write straight with crooked lines.

00:20:26.100 What does that statement mean to you?

00:20:27.740 I think you would say it that way.

00:20:29.600 And I'm from the country, okay?

00:20:31.000 So I grew up in Tennessee. 0.99

00:20:32.140 I would say my crap has become my fertilizer, you know? 0.99

00:20:35.640 So maybe that's, I'm thinking, so let me answer it like that, okay? 0.99

00:20:40.640 We don't like to have the crap dumped on us. 0.96

00:20:43.180 We don't like to have the crooked lines. 0.98

00:20:44.700 We want it to be straight, but sometimes that fertilizes the soil so the roots can grow deep.

00:20:52.320 And then there's a tree and then there's fruit, right?

00:20:55.040 Is that too much imagery for us?

00:20:56.820 But I think of that, I mean, that's just what came to mind.

00:20:59.820 Like my wounds have become a weapon, right?

00:21:02.660 The brokenness that I carry have become the beauty of the object.

00:21:06.920 As Christians, we believe that all of life is about eternal life.

00:21:11.980 The world, our lives here are testing ground to get to heaven.

00:21:15.880 That is the purpose of our lives.

00:21:17.380 It's very short compared to eternal life.

00:21:19.740 In fact, it's like the blink of an eye.

00:21:21.560 In that blink of an eye, you decide which direction you're going to take for all eternity.

00:21:26.360 What people think is immense suffering here is all about getting there.

00:21:36.220 Jesus said, sounds horrible.

00:21:38.800 If you love me, take up your cross.

00:21:41.200 Not take up a good drink, come in the shade with me, and we'll just have a great time.

00:21:45.860 It's take up your cross and follow me.

00:21:47.260 So, we have to deal with a lot.

00:21:52.340 Your testimony is very powerful because it brings to the brink of what people think.

00:21:59.300 How could you ever endure that?

00:22:00.540 It's the cross in real, real terms.

00:22:04.220 Why do you call your organization Broken Not Dead?

00:22:09.420 The name came from really my own suffering.

00:22:13.080 You know, I'm broken, but I'm not dead yet.

00:22:15.820 There's still purpose for my life, right?

00:22:17.980 2 Corinthians 4, 8 and 9 is the verse where we see, I'm going to paraphrase a little bit, but, you know, I'm not abandoned.

00:22:25.920 You know, I'm struck down, but I'm not destroyed.

00:22:27.680 Not yet, right?

00:22:29.100 So, to me, that's a battle cry for anybody listening.

00:22:32.920 You may be broken, right?

00:22:34.700 But brokenness is not death.

00:22:37.200 And I think the best way and image to, I use a lot, is kintsugi.

00:22:41.820 Have you ever heard of kintsugi?

00:22:43.420 No.

00:22:43.560 It's a Japanese art form of mending broken pottery.

00:22:46.920 So, maybe you've seen, like, where it has the gold and the cracks.

00:22:50.400 So, kintsugi means to repair with gold.

00:22:53.220 So, it takes a master potter, right?

00:22:57.560 They've crafted the skill for years.

00:22:59.600 So, that'll speak, right?

00:23:00.560 It takes a master potter to mend the brokenness.

00:23:02.840 So, we have to take that brokenness and surrender it to the master potter to do the healing.

00:23:08.320 But once you've been restored, right, the beauty, the cracks become the beauty of the object.

00:23:14.100 So, you actually do have purpose, even though you've been through the brokenness, right?

00:23:19.460 There's still purpose for your life.

00:23:21.840 You're actually worth more.

00:23:23.220 That object's worth more now than it was in its original state.

00:23:26.380 But it had to be broken, then restored.

00:23:29.340 But my favorite part is what happens when you shine a light on that object that wouldn't have happened before it had been broken and restored.

00:23:36.340 It reflects the light, right?

00:23:39.000 So, where is the light reflected from?

00:23:41.680 The broken places, right?

00:23:44.340 The cracks and the scars.

00:23:46.220 So, I feel like for the image people out there in the world, that's what this means.

00:23:50.820 Yeah, I'm broken.

00:23:51.940 But so what?

00:23:52.700 I'm not dead yet.

00:23:53.960 So, I still have breath in my lungs and a heartbeat in my chest.

00:23:56.680 So, I still have work to do.

00:23:58.380 I still have eternity, right?

00:23:59.880 We talked about to push towards and bring as many people as I can with me.

00:24:04.620 I'm going to end off with a very challenging question for you, Stevenson.

00:24:07.800 Stevenson, you've got your own kids.

00:24:11.300 What are you doing to bring your own kids to the ultimate in life?

00:24:18.360 I think I'm trying to be the greatest example as a father and a man of God, you know, as an example to my kids to, you know, to bring them along with me, right?

00:24:27.080 That's my first ministry is my family, my wife and my children.

00:24:31.620 So, it's a beautiful, I mean, you know how to get me crying.

00:24:35.220 Like, to see my girls lead worship with me, to sing with dad, right?

00:24:40.600 They're singing because of their love, you know, and their faith and their love for Jesus, right?

00:24:45.180 And to see them serve in the church and, you know, they'll be the first to tell you, even pro-life.

00:24:52.520 They're passionate about pro-life and they're passionate about their faith.

00:24:56.000 And, you know, that's a testament to hopefully the work that I've done and my wife have done as parents.

00:25:01.820 So, it's a beautiful thing.

00:25:04.880 It's an honor to be called dad.

00:25:06.280 One last edgy thing.

00:25:09.560 Stephen Thin is a musician.

00:25:11.980 What's your band called?

00:25:13.780 Stephen Thin Holland.

00:25:15.540 There we go.

00:25:16.200 There we go.

00:25:17.320 May I ask you, I don't know if you know it, but just a verse of Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus.

00:25:24.120 Do you know that one?

00:25:24.620 Turn your eyes upon Jesus.

00:25:33.380 Look full in his wonderful face.

00:25:40.960 That's all I've got.

00:25:42.700 Beautiful.

00:25:44.020 Stevenson, thank you so much.

00:25:45.980 Thank you.

00:25:46.660 God bless you all.

00:25:47.380 Through this man, we were able to turn our eyes upon Jesus and, for a little while, look full into his wonderful face.

00:25:58.580 Do that, my friends.

00:26:01.260 For LifeSite News, this is John Henry Weston.

00:26:03.880 And may God bless you.

00:26:04.580 For LifeSite News, this is John Henry Weston.

The John-Henry Westen Show - February 07, 2024

Child of Sexual Assault Shares Why He's Thankful that His Mother Chose Life

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