The John-Henry Westen Show - Coach： Allowing 'transgender' males on female teams will 'destroy sports'

00:00:00.000 The world of sports has been turned completely upside down, particularly female sports, because 1.00

00:00:07.200 of the new way of doing things with the transgender movement.

00:00:11.780 Basically, we have boys who aren't faring so well in male sports, calling themselves

00:00:19.080 women and or girls and joining female sports. 1.00

00:00:22.520 And then, lo and behold, often they're dominating the sport and much to the detriment of girls 0.99

00:00:28.780 sports.

00:00:29.080 You might have thought that parents would speak out, that coaches would speak out, but

00:00:33.360 we've had veritable silence on the issue.

00:00:36.160 We've got two authors of a book about the issue with us today.

00:00:41.000 One is Barbara Kay, a well-known journalist in Canada, and the other is Linda Blade, someone

00:00:46.440 who has been in the industry.

00:00:48.540 She was a female athlete in Canada and then a coach, and they have dared to speak out against

00:00:54.980 this insanity happening in sports today.

00:00:57.460 You're going to want to stay tuned.

00:00:59.080 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:01:19.940 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

00:01:23.400 Amen.

00:01:24.800 Barbara and Linda, thank you for being with us on the program.

00:01:27.760 Great to be here.

00:01:29.040 So, Linda, if we can start with you, if you can tell us your motivation for putting out

00:01:34.140 this book.

00:01:34.740 Primary motivation, Don Henry, is definitely to encourage our sport leadership all over

00:01:43.160 the world, from the top down to the community level, to reconsider a policy that's going

00:01:50.120 to destroy sports.

00:01:52.120 And Barbara, you're a well-known journalist in Canada.

00:01:55.720 You've been writing for a long time.

00:01:58.440 This book finds you out of step with the liberal mainstream, but you're probably used to being

00:02:03.300 that way, writing for the National Post, as you have been these many years.

00:02:07.020 Tell us about it.

00:02:08.000 I first got interested in the whole baffling rise of transgender ideology. 1.00

00:02:18.720 I guess about four or five years ago, I suddenly noticed that it seemed to be everywhere.

00:02:25.540 From almost being something you never heard about, it suddenly was flooding the airways,

00:02:32.540 media, education.

00:02:34.980 And as is usual with many of the topics that grab my attention, it's because I get multiple

00:02:42.800 emails from readers who are alarmed themselves or who have had personal experience.

00:02:48.720 Experiences that they find disturbing.

00:02:51.840 I was getting notices from parents whose children were being taught things that they found alarming

00:02:58.540 and that I found alarming too.

00:03:00.820 And it was a phenomenon.

00:03:02.400 I am mainly interested in cultural topics, anything that affects our culture in the broadest

00:03:10.320 sense and what children are being taught, basically, and university students.

00:03:16.260 So this kind of fit in with the whole radical, a kind of revolutionary environment that is

00:03:25.140 saturating the universities and the discourse of media people, government people.

00:03:30.980 And I found it particularly alarming because it was affecting children so much.

00:03:35.740 And it seemed to me there was an indoctrination program going on that was coming from a very

00:03:42.420 Marxist place.

00:03:43.480 And I am very anti-Marxist.

00:03:45.700 So the whole thing was so disturbing to me.

00:03:48.700 I tried to educate myself as much as I could.

00:03:51.880 And I did do quite a bit of research.

00:03:54.280 And I said to myself, after a couple of years hammering away at this, I said, well, there

00:04:00.600 are certain areas where this ideology will hit the wall.

00:04:07.280 And one of them is going to be sport.

00:04:08.980 Because if there's one area where ordinary people will insist on fairness and they don't

00:04:16.940 want to hear intellectual gobbledygook.

00:04:19.300 They don't want to hear theories and hypotheses about gender.

00:04:23.540 And, you know, they will just say, hey, this isn't fair.

00:04:27.240 And that'll be the end of it.

00:04:28.700 But to my utter shock and horror, that wasn't the end of it at all.

00:04:33.580 It was just the beginning of a new terrain, a new battlefield, which they started to win

00:04:40.920 very handily.

00:04:43.020 So I was dismayed and upset.

00:04:45.440 I have grandchildren, all granddaughters, and some of them are very interested in sport.

00:04:51.040 And, you know, I want the world to be a fair place for them in sport.

00:04:55.520 And then I was looking for voices from the world of sport to condemn this.

00:05:00.460 And who was going to speak up?

00:05:02.040 Who was the only voice?

00:05:04.240 And it was really kind of like a wilderness was this woman called Linda Blaine, whom I

00:05:10.860 hadn't heard of before, but quickly, you know, got up to speed on.

00:05:16.040 And before we knew it, we were collaborating on, I think, I believe I'm remembering correctly,

00:05:21.400 Linda, correct me if I'm wrong, that you had said you should write an op-ed about this problem.

00:05:27.820 And you were giving me all the talking points.

00:05:30.120 And I said, Linda, you have to write it because you're the one with credibility.

00:05:34.780 I would just be a parrot repeating, you know, you have all the knowledge on this.

00:05:39.400 So I did help her to craft a fabulous op-ed, if I do say so myself.

00:05:45.700 I mean, it was Linda's knowledge and her argumentation.

00:05:50.720 But I did help her sand down the rough edges journalistically.

00:05:55.500 And it was published in the Postmillennial.

00:05:57.400 And I was excited about it.

00:05:58.980 It started some dialogue going.

00:06:01.120 It started some public discussion.

00:06:02.420 And then I had the opportunity, Rebel News Media, you know, Ezra Levant very well, I'm

00:06:09.420 sure, came to me and said, have you got any ideas for books?

00:06:12.760 You know, I'm publishing books and short books and, you know, that topics people are

00:06:17.920 interested in.

00:06:18.540 If you've got something in mind, come to me with it.

00:06:21.040 And I said, I think I have something in mind and I will come to you.

00:06:26.120 And I'll leave it at that because I then called Linda.

00:06:28.320 I said, Linda, you have to write this book and I'll help you.

00:06:31.200 And that was it.

00:06:32.160 Excellent.

00:06:32.980 Well, Linda, tell us, what are we going to find here?

00:06:35.540 I mean, you've lived in this world, as Barbara was saying, everyone expected, I think, that

00:06:42.520 when they attacked, especially girls sports, parents at least would wake up and say no.

00:06:49.180 And yet we've watched title after title be stripped in the most unbelievable ways with

00:06:56.280 very little reaction or at least little reaction that we see from the mainstream media.

00:07:01.700 If you could tell us what we're going to find.

00:07:03.220 Well, John Henry, this is what the book looks like for anybody who wants to know.

00:07:07.420 And the title is Unsporting, How Transactivism and Science Denial Are Destroying Sport. 0.83

00:07:13.380 I want to make one thing really clear right off the bat.

00:07:16.420 Our argument is not with trans people per se.

00:07:20.800 Our argument is with the activists who are often not trans themselves.

00:07:25.320 They're actually Marxists and left-wing radicals who are trying to undermine, I think, the very foundations of society.

00:07:35.560 And like you said, we would have all expected that when this came into the world of sport, when it found me in 2018, I would have expected the top officials in sport who are the ones who are responsible for policy to all be reacting in horror that this makes no sense.

00:07:55.380 And yet when I sat at the table, I mean, I had came into this because I was elected president of Athletics Alberta, which is the Track and Field Association of Alberta.

00:08:04.940 And in that capacity, I had to attend national meetings and the amount of pressure that was coming from on high in the Canadian government and sport bureaucracy to push associations at the provincial and local levels, to be accepting the fact that somehow a male can self-identify into women's sports, or we just have to stop recognizing biological sex.

00:08:33.040 The atmosphere of fear, the fear in the room, to speak against it, set off all the alarm bells in my mind.

00:08:44.800 I thought, you know what?

00:08:46.440 If we can't acknowledge that this most obvious thing is absurd, what they're proposing, if I'm the bad guy at the table for raising my voice and just questioning whether this is what we should be doing,

00:09:00.140 clearly there's something much deeper, maybe more powerful about how this ideology is being pushed and where it's coming from.

00:09:11.820 And that's when I started tweeting and that's when probably people got sort of an idea, there's this person out there, because I didn't know where else to go.

00:09:20.080 They weren't listening to me at the table.

00:09:21.480 The incredible thing, and Barbara, I'd like you to address this, is that element of fear.

00:09:28.420 This is pervasive in our whole culture.

00:09:31.720 It seems like, you know, we've gone back to a form of fascist kind of government or manipulation of people through fear.

00:09:41.020 In many respects, I mean, we're dealing with that now in COVID too, but here in this area of daring to speak to even biological fact, you're banned from Twitter or you're kicked off YouTube or whatever.

00:09:56.540 Talk to us, Barbara, if you would, about the element of fear.

00:09:59.800 People are afraid because people do not like to be called.

00:10:03.780 There are certain things people really don't want to be called publicly.

00:10:08.500 They don't want to be called a racist.

00:10:10.240 They don't want to be called homophobic.

00:10:13.660 They do not want to be called transphobic.

00:10:15.780 And there are certain culture moves from one group to the other so that certain groups have the spotlight on them.

00:10:24.820 And then, you know, there were gay rights and there was feminism and now it's trans ideology that has the spotlight.

00:10:35.920 And the minute you speak up, you get cancelled.

00:10:41.940 There's a woman in Germany, a woman in England, Maya Forstadter, who worked on global, what was her job, doesn't matter.

00:10:50.460 Yeah, she was a think tank.

00:10:51.740 Yeah, and a think tank and she just said, you know, a man could not be a woman. 0.94

00:10:57.260 I mean, it's something that seems very obvious to us.

00:11:01.220 And she was harassed out of her job by activists who claimed that this was hateful, hate speech.

00:11:09.760 I mean, it's hate speech to state the obvious.

00:11:11.700 Anyways, she just won a big victory at the high court in England, who, you know, the judges deemed it is not hate speech to voice your opinion that there are two sexes, male and female.

00:11:26.400 I feel like Alice in Wonderland even saying these things.

00:11:29.700 But that and the fact is, people have been fired.

00:11:34.740 Their parents have been shamed.

00:11:37.860 Parents are afraid they will actually lose their children to the to child custody, to child protection services.

00:11:45.780 And they and they could if they do not affirm their children and the teachers know that they're not affirming their children at a very early age.

00:11:55.860 This is a it's a social contagion that has swept entire nations in a way that many commentators say they've never seen anything like it before.

00:12:07.840 I remember one of the cases that I wrote up was a mother of a six year old girl in a class where the teacher showed them one of these videos about gender fluidity and said to them, there's no such thing as a boy or a girl because everybody's got fluidity in them.

00:12:27.980 And that's anyways, this little girl was so traumatized that she came home crying, she couldn't sleep, she had extreme anxiety over because the teacher kept reinforcing this message.

00:12:38.840 And finally, the mother was incensed. 0.96

00:12:41.840 And she went right up the food chain from the teacher to the principal to the superintendent of schools to the, you know, the school board.

00:12:48.400 And all along the way, they stood by the teacher.

00:12:51.600 And they said, this is the way it is now.

00:12:53.540 This is this is what your child is learning.

00:12:55.780 And you, you know, basically, but out she she was very strong willed and wonderful person who took them.

00:13:03.500 It still hasn't been decided to the Human Rights Commission.

00:13:06.180 She took her child out of the school. 0.68

00:13:09.260 P.S.

00:13:09.940 She started her own her own publication, the gender report.

00:13:16.460 She's an organizer and and she's doing magnificent work. 0.83

00:13:19.540 But but she's one of the very few parents.

00:13:21.600 And when she tried to talk to other parents in the school, they honestly didn't want to know they they they they're so afraid of making waves.

00:13:29.320 And I think people in general like this, I said to Linda 100 times, why are you the only coach in Canada?

00:13:37.360 Or I don't know, I don't even hear about any in the United States that are standing up and saying, this is crazy.

00:13:44.200 This is this is so terrible for girls. 0.92

00:13:46.900 Yes, but she is the only one and I find that frightening.

00:13:52.060 And I'm sure Linda never envisaged in her wildest dreams that she would become a social warrior of the real kind, not the social justice guy who is who is actually standing up for reason and sanity and liberalism in its original form.

00:14:11.240 Anyways, I'm ranting because I'm going on much too long, but here's where we are.

00:14:16.520 This Marxist ideology tells you that words, first of all, there is no such thing as objective truth, that science as we know it, which we think is there's only one kind of science, is a tool of white people to oppress people of color. 0.56

00:14:36.640 And therefore, science is not reliable because it's a tool of oppression.

00:14:44.700 So basically, they say what is true has nothing to do with who's in power.

00:14:50.700 Anybody who's in power thinks that what they have to say is true.

00:14:54.460 So you don't have to listen to people who are in power.

00:14:56.960 When it comes to biology, they're just saying, well, that's not true.

00:15:02.320 We know now that there are many, that biology is not dimorphic and it's fluid.

00:15:09.480 And you really find yourself trying to, you can't argue with the kind of arguments you would have used, you were brought up to use, like, but evidence, but data, but epidemiology, but look, there's no girls winning in the boys sports.

00:15:26.800 You know, they'll say, well, there's no, there's no real difference between men and women, but, but then how come girls aren't winning in boys sports?

00:15:33.680 Only boys are winning in girls sports.

00:15:35.500 Oh, a mere, you know, a mere sidebar.

00:15:38.540 Social construct.

00:15:39.720 It's all because of how we treated little girls somehow.

00:15:43.020 Yeah.

00:15:43.120 They don't have the mental discipline or they're there.

00:15:46.800 I mean, this is an argument in, in, in the book, Linda brought forth the example of, I mean, it's the classic example of this young man who was hurdles doing men's hurdles.

00:15:58.620 And he was a totally mediocre, he was a poor contender.

00:16:03.240 He was, he was ranked 390th in his, in his division.

00:16:08.940 And then he, he started to identify as a woman entered into women's competition and ended up the next year, number one.

00:16:17.420 So he went from 390th to number one.

00:16:20.160 And his coach said, I've never seen such mental determination in an athlete.

00:16:25.820 And truly, I know you're laughing and I'm laughing, but it's the coach said it with a straight face.

00:16:32.380 Now, does he believe it?

00:16:33.500 Of course he doesn't believe it, but he wants to continue being a coach.

00:16:37.140 So he has to say it.

00:16:38.160 And this is Soviet union stuff, you know, saying, Oh, what a wonderful harvest this year.

00:16:45.260 And, you know, there isn't a grain of wheat in the fields because, but this is what we've come to.

00:16:51.820 It's an act of courage to say what is in front of your nose.

00:16:56.300 Absolutely.

00:16:56.860 As we part here, I wanted to tell us a couple of things.

00:16:58.880 First of all, where can everyone get your book?

00:17:00.700 We need to read it and be aware.

00:17:02.620 And also, how do you suggest fighting it back against this agenda?

00:17:06.020 Well, over to Linda, I've spoken too much.

00:17:09.300 Well, you can find the book at unsporting.com.

00:17:14.200 And it'll take you to all the different links or basically to Amazon.

00:17:18.700 You can look it up on Amazon as well.

00:17:20.300 Basically, I think the way we're going to win this is when parents and coaches and athletes and just people at the ground level start just saying, no, no, this is not how it works.

00:17:35.340 We're not going to play your game.

00:17:37.820 We're going to simply tell the truth.

00:17:40.240 We know what a boy is.

00:17:41.760 We know what a girl is. 0.99

00:17:43.460 And we're going to stop gaslighting our children and our sports organizations and our politicians.

00:17:49.640 People need to just stop doing this and just say no.

00:17:53.900 Like in my own sports organization, we've installed a completely different set of principles than what the transgender activists want us to.

00:18:04.400 I've basically just said in this with my board and I, you're going to compete on the basis of your biology.

00:18:12.480 We already have no bullying policy.

00:18:15.640 So if somebody wants to identify completely differently in their dress or their behavior or their stereotypical, whatever, how many earrings you have in your ear, whatever you want to do, we will never bully anybody.

00:18:30.120 We want everybody to participate.

00:18:31.620 So we've already resolved the bullying issue.

00:18:34.940 We will not tolerate bullying, but we will also respect the fact that in sports, you compete on the basis of biology.

00:18:42.460 And the sooner we put our foot down as citizens in Canada, the sooner we win.

00:18:50.460 Well said.

00:18:51.200 Linda and Barbara, I want to thank you both for what you've done.

00:18:53.340 It's very courageous.

00:18:54.440 And thank you for being with us on the show.

00:18:56.940 Thank you for having us.

00:18:58.280 And God bless all of you.

00:18:59.400 We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - June 22, 2021

Coach： Allowing 'transgender' males on female teams will 'destroy sports'

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