The world of sports has been turned upside down, particularly female sports, because of the new way of doing things with the transgender movement. We have boys who aren t faring so well in male sports, calling themselves women and or girls, and joining female sports. And then, lo and behold, often they're dominating the sport, and much to the detriment of girls sports. You might have thought that parents would speak out, that coaches would speak up, but we ve had veritable silence on the issue. We ve got two authors of a book about the issue with us today. One is Barbara Kay, a well-known journalist in Canada, and the other is Linda Blade, someone who has been in the industry for many years, and who has dared to speak out against this insanity happening in sports today.
00:06:32.980Well, Linda, tell us, what are we going to find here?
00:06:35.540I mean, you've lived in this world, as Barbara was saying, everyone expected, I think, that
00:06:42.520when they attacked, especially girls sports, parents at least would wake up and say no.
00:06:49.180And yet we've watched title after title be stripped in the most unbelievable ways with
00:06:56.280very little reaction or at least little reaction that we see from the mainstream media.
00:07:01.700If you could tell us what we're going to find.
00:07:03.220Well, John Henry, this is what the book looks like for anybody who wants to know.
00:07:07.420And the title is Unsporting, How Transactivism and Science Denial Are Destroying Sport.
00:07:13.380I want to make one thing really clear right off the bat.
00:07:16.420Our argument is not with trans people per se.
00:07:20.800Our argument is with the activists who are often not trans themselves.
00:07:25.320They're actually Marxists and left-wing radicals who are trying to undermine, I think, the very foundations of society.
00:07:35.560And like you said, we would have all expected that when this came into the world of sport, when it found me in 2018, I would have expected the top officials in sport who are the ones who are responsible for policy to all be reacting in horror that this makes no sense.
00:07:55.380And yet when I sat at the table, I mean, I had came into this because I was elected president of Athletics Alberta, which is the Track and Field Association of Alberta.
00:08:04.940And in that capacity, I had to attend national meetings and the amount of pressure that was coming from on high in the Canadian government and sport bureaucracy to push associations at the provincial and local levels, to be accepting the fact that somehow a male can self-identify into women's sports, or we just have to stop recognizing biological sex.
00:08:33.040The atmosphere of fear, the fear in the room, to speak against it, set off all the alarm bells in my mind.
00:08:46.440If we can't acknowledge that this most obvious thing is absurd, what they're proposing, if I'm the bad guy at the table for raising my voice and just questioning whether this is what we should be doing,
00:09:00.140clearly there's something much deeper, maybe more powerful about how this ideology is being pushed and where it's coming from.
00:09:11.820And that's when I started tweeting and that's when probably people got sort of an idea, there's this person out there, because I didn't know where else to go.
00:09:20.080They weren't listening to me at the table.
00:09:21.480The incredible thing, and Barbara, I'd like you to address this, is that element of fear.
00:09:28.420This is pervasive in our whole culture.
00:09:31.720It seems like, you know, we've gone back to a form of fascist kind of government or manipulation of people through fear.
00:09:41.020In many respects, I mean, we're dealing with that now in COVID too, but here in this area of daring to speak to even biological fact, you're banned from Twitter or you're kicked off YouTube or whatever.
00:09:56.540Talk to us, Barbara, if you would, about the element of fear.
00:09:59.800People are afraid because people do not like to be called.
00:10:03.780There are certain things people really don't want to be called publicly.
00:10:08.500They don't want to be called a racist.
00:10:10.240They don't want to be called homophobic.
00:10:13.660They do not want to be called transphobic.
00:10:15.780And there are certain culture moves from one group to the other so that certain groups have the spotlight on them.
00:10:24.820And then, you know, there were gay rights and there was feminism and now it's trans ideology that has the spotlight.
00:10:35.920And the minute you speak up, you get cancelled.
00:10:41.940There's a woman in Germany, a woman in England, Maya Forstadter, who worked on global, what was her job, doesn't matter.
00:10:51.740Yeah, and a think tank and she just said, you know, a man could not be a woman.
00:10:57.260I mean, it's something that seems very obvious to us.
00:11:01.220And she was harassed out of her job by activists who claimed that this was hateful, hate speech.
00:11:09.760I mean, it's hate speech to state the obvious.
00:11:11.700Anyways, she just won a big victory at the high court in England, who, you know, the judges deemed it is not hate speech to voice your opinion that there are two sexes, male and female.
00:11:26.400I feel like Alice in Wonderland even saying these things.
00:11:29.700But that and the fact is, people have been fired.
00:11:37.860Parents are afraid they will actually lose their children to the to child custody, to child protection services.
00:11:45.780And they and they could if they do not affirm their children and the teachers know that they're not affirming their children at a very early age.
00:11:55.860This is a it's a social contagion that has swept entire nations in a way that many commentators say they've never seen anything like it before.
00:12:07.840I remember one of the cases that I wrote up was a mother of a six year old girl in a class where the teacher showed them one of these videos about gender fluidity and said to them, there's no such thing as a boy or a girl because everybody's got fluidity in them.
00:12:27.980And that's anyways, this little girl was so traumatized that she came home crying, she couldn't sleep, she had extreme anxiety over because the teacher kept reinforcing this message.
00:12:41.840And she went right up the food chain from the teacher to the principal to the superintendent of schools to the, you know, the school board.
00:12:48.400And all along the way, they stood by the teacher.
00:12:51.600And they said, this is the way it is now.
00:12:53.540This is this is what your child is learning.
00:12:55.780And you, you know, basically, but out she she was very strong willed and wonderful person who took them.
00:13:03.500It still hasn't been decided to the Human Rights Commission.
00:13:09.940She started her own her own publication, the gender report.
00:13:16.460She's an organizer and and she's doing magnificent work.
00:13:19.540But but she's one of the very few parents.
00:13:21.600And when she tried to talk to other parents in the school, they honestly didn't want to know they they they they're so afraid of making waves.
00:13:29.320And I think people in general like this, I said to Linda 100 times, why are you the only coach in Canada?
00:13:37.360Or I don't know, I don't even hear about any in the United States that are standing up and saying, this is crazy.
00:13:44.200This is this is so terrible for girls.
00:13:46.900Yes, but she is the only one and I find that frightening.
00:13:52.060And I'm sure Linda never envisaged in her wildest dreams that she would become a social warrior of the real kind, not the social justice guy who is who is actually standing up for reason and sanity and liberalism in its original form.
00:14:11.240Anyways, I'm ranting because I'm going on much too long, but here's where we are.
00:14:16.520This Marxist ideology tells you that words, first of all, there is no such thing as objective truth, that science as we know it, which we think is there's only one kind of science, is a tool of white people to oppress people of color.
00:14:36.640And therefore, science is not reliable because it's a tool of oppression.
00:14:44.700So basically, they say what is true has nothing to do with who's in power.
00:14:50.700Anybody who's in power thinks that what they have to say is true.
00:14:54.460So you don't have to listen to people who are in power.
00:14:56.960When it comes to biology, they're just saying, well, that's not true.
00:15:02.320We know now that there are many, that biology is not dimorphic and it's fluid.
00:15:09.480And you really find yourself trying to, you can't argue with the kind of arguments you would have used, you were brought up to use, like, but evidence, but data, but epidemiology, but look, there's no girls winning in the boys sports.
00:15:26.800You know, they'll say, well, there's no, there's no real difference between men and women, but, but then how come girls aren't winning in boys sports?
00:15:33.680Only boys are winning in girls sports.
00:15:43.120They don't have the mental discipline or they're there.
00:15:46.800I mean, this is an argument in, in, in the book, Linda brought forth the example of, I mean, it's the classic example of this young man who was hurdles doing men's hurdles.
00:15:58.620And he was a totally mediocre, he was a poor contender.
00:16:03.240He was, he was ranked 390th in his, in his division.
00:16:08.940And then he, he started to identify as a woman entered into women's competition and ended up the next year, number one.
00:17:20.300Basically, I think the way we're going to win this is when parents and coaches and athletes and just people at the ground level start just saying, no, no, this is not how it works.
00:17:43.460And we're going to stop gaslighting our children and our sports organizations and our politicians.
00:17:49.640People need to just stop doing this and just say no.
00:17:53.900Like in my own sports organization, we've installed a completely different set of principles than what the transgender activists want us to.
00:18:04.400I've basically just said in this with my board and I, you're going to compete on the basis of your biology.
00:18:15.640So if somebody wants to identify completely differently in their dress or their behavior or their stereotypical, whatever, how many earrings you have in your ear, whatever you want to do, we will never bully anybody.
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