MPP Randy Hillier has been a voice for the voiceless and voiceless. He has been one of the few politicians willing to speak out against the insane lockdowns across the province, and now he is paying the price for it.
00:00:00.000Canada has gone absolutely crazy, locking down the province when there's absolutely no justification, especially in Ontario, where this has been brought to an extreme, with our Premier Doug Ford boasting that we have the most extensive lockdowns in all of North America.
00:00:17.400When, by the way, his motto on his election was open for business. Unbelievable. Well, we have with us today one of the most outspoken MPPs, that Member of Provincial Parliament in Ontario, who has been everywhere to protest this absolute, unbelievable restriction on freedom in Canada and especially in Ontario. He's paid the price for it as well. We're going to be speaking with MPP Randy Hillier. Stay tuned.
00:00:47.400Let's begin, as we always do, at the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
00:01:11.340Randy Hillier, thanks for being with us on the program.
00:01:14.040It is my pleasure to be with you here today.
00:01:16.480It is a, it's a privilege for me to talk to you because you're, you're actually one of the Canadian heroes, one of the very few politicians that are willing to stand publicly and defy the absolute insanity that's going on in Canada and in Ontario specifically.
00:01:32.400And you called it so early. I remember it was a year ago now that you were already talking about this in May, I believe it was, of 2020, saying we need to end the lockdowns.
00:01:46.120Bring us back in history, if you would, to the beginning of all this for you. And we'll start from there.
00:01:52.360Like everyone else, the uncertainty, the doubt, and the unknowns that were being propagated early in COVID and with the declaration of emergency on March 17th.
00:02:07.320I think everybody was quite willing to cut some slack to government because of the great uncertainty.
00:02:14.320However, it didn't take long for the evidence to be revealed that demonstrated that this apocalypse that was being promoted was false.
00:02:32.140For myself, it was by the middle of April that it was clear that the evidence was showing that this was similar to a regular flu season.
00:02:44.440However, with some nuances, however, with some nuances, that it was being far more harmful to the elderly and people who were in frail and sick conditions.
00:02:59.000But the evidence was showing that it was not the projections and the speculations and the models of here in Canada, it was 350,000 people would die from COVID.
00:03:14.440Of course, that is a greater than 10-fold error.
00:03:19.400And that evidence was pretty clear to me by the middle of April.
00:03:24.040And I started speaking out by the end of April, encouraging the government to stop the state of emergency and to start looking at the evidence more so than the modeling.
00:03:40.840You know, I also saw that the state of emergency was contributing to and inciting and inflaming the terror and the fear and the panic within people.
00:03:57.580And if anybody knows anything about what the responsibilities of government are, and that is to lessen the fear within society and do whatever you can to provide rational, reasonable evaluations of the risk.
00:04:23.940But not ever should we encourage people to live in fear.
00:04:31.300And that's exactly what all of our institutions were doing.
00:05:10.020And the evidence was growing even in April that the lockdowns were contributing significantly to the deaths in long-term care.
00:05:24.320That putting vulnerable, sick, frail people into a heightened state of terror using isolation and confinement was leading to even premature death in the long-term care homes where we have seen the greatest number of fatalities.
00:05:48.320So I thought it was, and I guess the other thing I should say, like it was never in my life had I ever heard from so many constituents.
00:06:02.320It was all day long, every day, people calling me, explaining to me the harm and the injuries and the inability to get needed medical attention and the fear and the actual losing of their jobs and their businesses, their homes.
00:06:25.540It was having a hugely detrimental and far more injurious outcome in our society than what COVID was.
00:06:38.460So I thought it was an obligation to speak out about what was obvious to me, but was also clearly too dangerous a subject for any politicians or media to actually speak truthfully and honestly about.
00:07:38.440Journalists always, when there's a massive inequality that doesn't make any sense, journalists all go, eh, something's wrong there.
00:07:45.100But politicians who are supposed to give sober second thought to things like that and see the evidence, take us inside Parliament.
00:07:53.240What is happening inside the Ontario Parliament and why are people just not getting it?
00:07:58.080That's a bit of a myth to think that politicians provide sober second thought.
00:08:04.560It may be something that we would like to see happen, but that's not the truth and it's not the reality.
00:08:11.780You know, I spent 12 years within the caucus of the Progressive Conservative Party.
00:08:18.780And we had a great multitude of various policy matters and subjects to discuss.
00:08:28.740And I can tell you and I can tell you and your audience and everyone that in a political caucus, you only view a policy or an issue through a singular lens.
00:08:48.940It is not, when we had discussions about budgets or the great many number of social issues as well, it's always viewed singularly through how will this impact, how will it improve or lessen the re-election of the party?
00:09:20.540They may be sober, but there's not much second thought in politics.
00:09:26.740And so that's, and I think they lost the Ontario government and all Western governments.
00:09:37.100You know, all political parties operate on that assumption and on that premise.
00:09:44.760Of being re-elected is the most important consideration.
00:09:49.940So let's not be surprised that once they incited and inflamed the panic and the fear within society, they quickly lost grasp of what they could do.
00:10:08.980And that's what happened clearly in Ontario.
00:10:11.100I remember speaking with a number of the staff in the Progressive Conservative Party, the first week of April, when the legislature returned for the first time after the state of emergency.
00:10:28.100And they all knew, and they all knew, and we had lengthy discussions, they all knew that they had misplayed their hand.
00:10:38.540They all knew that it was not the danger that they thought it might be.
00:10:46.880But they also had no way of communicating the error without them thinking that it would impair their re-election.
00:11:42.740You know, our, our re-election will be in jeopardy.
00:11:46.300And so it's been stumbling and, and, and being dishonest for at least 15 months in the Western world.
00:11:59.820And I think there's a lot of other, a lot of other factors that can, that have gone into that, but that's at the crux of it.
00:12:08.700And that's why we've seen all Western liberal democracies really get trapped into that, that singular lie that now has become an endless lie.
00:12:24.120Are you able to reveal who it was that, that said this to you?
00:12:27.500I mean, those are, that's hugely letting the cat out of the bag.
00:12:31.780Um, it, it, it would be, you know, one of the shining examples of, uh, the basically misleading the people, um, with the evidence for it.
00:12:42.400People provide information to me, um, in confidence, and I'm not going to betray that confidence.
00:12:52.340Uh, they know at the end of the day, they will be judged on their actions.
00:12:59.740Um, you know, but I, I had plenty of conversations with many cabinet ministers and former caucus members who knew what they were doing was wrong.
00:13:12.200Um, and I remember stating categorically, clearly to one of them, I said, how can you be, how can you be putting your children's future in jeopardy for your reelection?
00:13:27.120You know, you know, is your reelection more important than the future of your children and your grandchildren?
00:13:36.500And, and I think that is reflective as a, of our society as a whole these days, you know, we see many, many people, doctors, police officers, nurses, academics.
00:13:50.380They, and thankfully, and God bless those, all those ones who have spoken out, but I've spoken with thousands who have understood this to be a falsehood and a lie for a long time.
00:14:08.060Um, but they have not found the fortitude and convictions to, to speak publicly about this.
00:14:17.980Um, and, you know, because their paycheck may be in jeopardy.
00:14:23.120And I think this speaks, it speaks volumes to the society that we've created over the last 40 or 50 years, where the value of your paycheck is more important than the value of your family and your family's future.
00:14:43.860Um, and that's, that, that, that, that could be a hard, that, that is a harsh statement.
00:14:48.980Um, and, and I don't think many people in our country want to confront what I would say is a fundamental truth.
00:14:59.020Now, um, our, our paychecks are the most important thing in our lives.
00:15:07.580And, um, and I, I cut from a little bit of a different cloth, I guess.
00:15:14.780And there is nothing more important to me than my family.
00:15:20.680There is no paycheck that could ever supplant or be predominant over my children and my grandchildren.
00:15:36.360And, you know, but that's where we're at.
00:15:58.000You've actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak, because not only are you, you were booted from the party as well, but that was before this.
00:16:06.980But you've actually been fined and are facing massive fines for having gone to some of these anti-lockdown protests and engaging in the political activities that you have.
00:16:19.060Do you even know how much you're fined at this point?
00:16:28.580Well, the maximum penalties, if I'm found guilty, last I checked, was about two and a half million dollars in potential fines and about 25 years in jail.
00:18:31.440Um, but I also never thought it was possible that, that we would try, that we would adopt communist policies for a virus.
00:18:45.020Um, and I never thought it was possible that our public health would, would prevent treatments, um, that were known and effective.
00:18:58.480Um, but we prevented effective treatments for people who had contracted the virus.
00:19:06.560Um, you know, I never thought it possible that we would isolate and confine people and tell them that it's unhealthy to go outside and to get fresh air and to get exercise and, uh, and to eat healthy.
00:19:22.980But that, that, that you're safer if you are confined within quarters by yourself, um, um, without fresh air, without sunshine, without exercise.
00:19:38.340Like, like, like, like, like, like these, these are rudimentary, these are elementary, these are things that we all learned as little children.
00:19:49.560And we have learned through millennia of, of, of experience and observation that, um, you know, we have immune systems.
00:20:01.940We, we, we have a respiratory viruses in every year, um, and we know how to deal with them, but instead we accepted and adopted communism as a cure for a respiratory virus.
00:20:20.920And, and, and, and we're continuing to propagate lies, we're continuing to not reveal what the evidence has demonstrated.
00:20:35.860You know, every one of these apocalyptic, uh, properties of COVID have largely been debunked, uh, through peer reviewed clinical trials.
00:20:49.260See, the, the, there's an overwhelming level of evidence that the lockdowns have caused more death, more injury, more harm than the virus.
00:21:00.780The evidence is clear that the mass mandatory mass have not prevented the spread of the virus.
00:21:08.520Even the CDC, even the CDC, a couple of weeks ago, came out and said, there is not a single documented case of the, of transmission of COVID outdoors.
00:21:22.620But we prevented here in Ontario, you couldn't have more than five people meeting together outdoors, even though there has never been a singular documented case of outdoor transmission.
00:21:38.520And, you know, and we could go on, we, like the hypocrisy, the contradictions and the lies are endless.
00:21:47.480One of the most sinister ones that, that really does seem to speak to a kind of nefarious plan or, or decision behind the scenes is, uh, what you spoke of earlier, you mentioned in that list you gave there, the forbidding of known treatments.
00:22:05.660It's unreal that they basically stopped people from getting ivermectin and HCQ, which are known to work.
00:22:15.620We had doctors from around the globe saying, you got to do this.
00:22:19.560It's worked for me just so many times and, and, and whole country's doing it successfully.
00:22:25.820And yet somewhere the decision is made politically that, no, this can't be done.
00:22:31.900And I don't care if they got it from who or wherever they got this information from to do this.
00:22:36.880And a lot of people would have known they're killing people.
00:22:40.680How, how could we even go down that road where we knowingly allow people to die?
00:22:47.160Well, again, that speaks to the sickness of our society.
00:22:51.080When people say to themselves that my paycheck is more important than being truthful, my paycheck
00:23:02.560and my career is more important than saving lives.
00:23:09.040You know, this is a tough, these are tough statements to, to say to ourselves, but we have to, and we're still not yet willing to accept that we are all culpable in this tragedy that has happened.
00:23:32.080And, um, all of us, myself included, um, we, we, as a society have to say, we made errors and, um, and our actions led to the premature death of many that was, was avoidable.
00:23:52.280You know, I've used a term that the term that I've used to describe this is social murder.
00:23:59.800However, we willingly, knowingly traded lives, right?
00:24:06.420We, we said, we will, we will allow people who to die, who, because we will not give them medical treatments.
00:24:21.840We, uh, we know that people will die because of the social isolation and, and the increase in suicide.
00:24:29.800And domestic assaults and, um, and, and, and I think this speaks to the, the nihilism that is so prevalent in today's society that, you know, the saving of myself is the only thing that is important.
00:24:52.280And regardless of how many other deaths it results in one of the great, uh, awakenings for me during this was,
00:25:04.300as I saw society changing so quickly in April, um, and May, where never before had I seen so many people calling my constituency office and saying,
00:25:21.200I just saw three little girls walking down the street together and they weren't socially distanced and they shouldn't be doing this.
00:25:31.300Randy Hilliard as MPP, you should phone the police, um, on these three girls, or I saw a business with their door open.
00:25:42.580Randy Hilliard, Randy Hilliard, you call the police.
00:25:45.580And, and we quickly moved from the commandment and the understanding of love thy neighbor to let snitch and rat on thy neighbor.
00:26:01.880And, and, and that is the way to be virtuous.
00:26:05.800And, you know, I saw the, the great animosity, uh, and vitriol, um, coming out through, through the incitement of fear within society.
00:26:19.280You know, I've likened this to, um, you know, when a herd of animals are in a stampede, none of the herd of animals, whether it be buffalo or cows or lemmings, um, actually know what they're fearful of.
00:26:39.740But they're, they're running panicked, um, and, and often with tragic consequences.
00:26:49.420And that's how I see, um, we were panicked.
00:26:55.200It's Western liberal democracies that have been put into a stampede, not communist China, not North Korea.
00:27:04.640Um, you know, it's Western liberal democracies that have been put into the stampede, generally speaking, and we don't know how to stop the stampede.
00:27:16.680Um, and we're looking for, we're going to run into the cliff or over the cliff.
00:27:23.100If we don't begin to think rationally, we need to find the strength and the fortitude to speak honestly.
00:27:32.660Um, you know, like we have a mob mentality that has, um, and we've accepted and adopted this, this horrendous cancel culture that has put so many people in a state of being fearful to speak truthfully.
00:27:53.660So, so that's number one, we need to be vocal.
00:28:01.000We need to be public in our opposition.
00:28:05.140And I'm doing that through the nomorelockdowns.ca where we're providing lawn signs to people to help them find a way to express themselves.
00:28:19.900And we've also got local action groups, which are delivering flyers, our facts versus fears flyers.
00:28:28.600For those who are asleep, we need to awaken them.
00:28:32.860For those who are fearful, we need to encourage them.
00:28:38.800And, and it's only through the vocal and public opposition can we end this tragic path and stop us from continuing on this dark and dangerous path that we've embraced.
00:28:58.300Randy, I wanted to say a quick thank you from Canadians generally, but, but, uh, especially for those of us who, uh, you know, are really looking for some leadership that's going to speak out, uh, for truth.
00:29:15.420I want to thank you for allowing me to have this conversation with you.
00:29:19.620We have to understand the gravity of the situation that, uh, that we're on, you know, and we need to throw away the rose colored glasses.
00:29:32.060You know, a two week lockdown is now 16 months.
00:29:38.200Anybody who believes that, um, that this is temporary, I would say to them, look back, look back through your life in Canada and look at how we have destroyed.
00:29:59.320We've ridiculed and scorned those of faith in our country.
00:30:05.340We, we have attacked and eroded our families.
00:30:14.020We have relentlessly diminished our individual freedoms.
00:30:20.700We have purposely and continuously, um, transposed personal responsibility onto state responsibility.
00:30:32.280We, we look at what we've done in our education system and continue to do.
00:30:37.960And, and I would say to everyone, we ought not to be surprised that what has happened has happened.
00:30:49.380And in the longer term, uh, if we can get out of this mess that we're in today, in the longer term, we need to reflect on all those subjects and say,
00:31:06.900it is time for us to restore our faith, restore our freedoms, restore our responsibilities, and be ever vigilant, never to be so casual and dismissive in giving them up again.
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