The John-Henry Westen Show - Coronavirus： Leading China expert details the reality

00:00:00.360 Welcome to this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we'll be discussing the coronavirus, or COVID-19, with one of the USA's foremost experts on China.

00:00:12.260 Wouldn't you want to verify that those viral videos of the Chinese people talking about the virus are actually accurate? 0.75

00:00:18.200 Are those words that they're playing on the bottom of the screen actually what they're saying, or is it just something used to instill panic?

00:00:24.060 What's actually really going on in China with the virus, and what threats do we face from it in the West?

00:00:30.440 You'll want to stay tuned.

00:00:49.080 Steve Mosher, welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:00:52.020 It's good to be here, John Henry.

00:00:55.200 Now, most of you will know Stephen Mosher as president of the Population Research Institute, the one who first alerted the world to the forced abortion practice in China.

00:01:04.080 He's the author of Bully of Asia, Why China's Dream is the New Threat to World Order, and he's a former National Science Foundation fellow.

00:01:13.280 He studied human biology at Stanford University, and he holds advanced degrees in biological oceanography, East Asian studies, and cultural anthropology.

00:01:23.580 One of America's leading China watchers, he was selected in 1979 by the National Science Foundation to be the first U.S. social scientist to do field research in China.

00:01:35.080 So, Steve, we're really happy to be talking to you about this, and let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:01:41.640 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

00:01:46.900 Okay, so, first of all, tell us.

00:01:49.340 What we know about the coronavirus is really scary.

00:01:51.860 We hear, everybody hears that it's a deadly virus with no cure, no vaccine.

00:01:55.740 But what really is the coronavirus?

00:01:59.280 The coronavirus is called a coronavirus because it has crown-like extensions on the virus packet.

00:02:07.220 The extensions are what enables it to attach itself to cell walls inside your body, inject the RNA from the virus into the cell,

00:02:16.080 take over the cell's reproductive machinery, and then produce hundreds, thousands of copies of itself,

00:02:21.600 after which the cell is destroyed, and those copies go on to infect other cells.

00:02:26.000 That's how viruses work in general.

00:02:28.200 Now, the strange thing about the coronavirus is that we have never seen it before.

00:02:33.580 This is a unique organism.

00:02:36.560 It bears some resemblance to viruses found in an animal called the pangolin.

00:02:42.340 It bears some resemblances to viruses found in bats and rats.

00:02:47.740 But, again, it's unique, which raises questions about its origins.

00:02:54.120 Right.

00:02:55.100 Now, do we know how the virus is spread?

00:02:59.020 Well, the virus is spread by three means, basically.

00:03:03.340 It's spread by touching a surface on which there are live viruses that have been left there by someone touching the surface who has the disease.

00:03:12.660 It can be spread, of course, by coughing through the air if you're within a few feet of someone who has coronavirus.

00:03:19.440 And it can also be spread, apparently, by aerosol transmission, which is to say that tiny droplets of water in the air containing the virus packets can stay in the air for a while and infect people who walk by.

00:03:33.580 I think that's the most worrying thing about the infection possibilities.

00:03:40.600 But the problem is, John Henry, that the Chinese government, which is, of course, run by the Chinese Communist Party, has been completely opaque about the coronavirus epidemic in China from the beginning.

00:03:55.920 We believe that the first cases were discovered back in November.

00:03:59.200 However, the Chinese government did not admit it had a problem until January 20th, by which time the virus epidemic had already reached epidemic proportions in China.

00:04:11.300 So basically, it did what the Chinese Communist Party always does.

00:04:16.920 It lied, it covered up, it deceived its own people and the world about the dangerous epidemic that was raging inside of China, unnecessarily costing many, many lives in China and potentially many lives outside of China. 0.85

00:04:33.160 So once again, this is this is the Chinese Communist Party has over the years succeeded in killing hundreds of millions of its own people in famines and political purges in the one child policy. 0.78

00:04:46.520 But now it's found a new way, a novel way, one might say, after the novel coronavirus, a novel way to kill even more of the poor Chinese people who suffer under its misrule. 0.98

00:04:58.240 Right now. So they've been hiding their numbers, lying about their numbers. 0.90

00:05:04.640 What are the actual numbers, A, that they're putting out there right now and B, that you believe they would be based on what they're what the numbers are more like, actually like rather than what they're foisting, trying to foist on the public?

00:05:16.880 Well, as I mentioned, the first deaths and the first infections were reported on January 20th, just about a month ago.

00:05:27.960 But in fact, we know that there was an emergency meeting of the standing committee of the Politburo, that is to say, President for Life Xi Jinping, who's the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party and the other Politburo members, standing committee members who actually run China.

00:05:47.780 We know there was an emergency meeting of the Politburo on back in early January.

00:05:54.220 And we know even before that, there were universities in Hong Kong, in Shanghai, which is 200 miles east of Wuhan, the center of the epidemic.

00:06:05.780 Universities in Shanghai, which were saying, do not allow any strangers on campus because there is a new epidemic raging.

00:06:14.240 So already by January 2nd, by January 3rd, we had evidence that there was an epidemic of major proportions in China, that it had already reached the city of Shanghai, 200 miles to the east.

00:06:31.060 And the local units, what we call in Chinese local institutions, local factories, were already taking precautions against the spread of the disease.

00:06:41.520 And yet three more weeks went by before the Chinese government even admitted that it had a single death.

00:06:48.440 So obviously, the numbers that they give us of roughly now 2,000 dead and 70,000 infected are a vast underestimate of the actual scale of the epidemic.

00:07:00.780 Let's say, for purposes of discussion, that the epidemic really began not on January 20th, but on December 20th, a month before, but followed the same pattern of expansion that we see in Wuhan from the official numbers.

00:07:17.700 By now, if it had started in December 20th, which is a very reasonable supposition, we would have seen a million and a half people infected in China and probably 30,000 deaths.

00:07:28.480 Now, if it started before then and spread at the same rate, the numbers would be even larger.

00:07:33.000 So I believe that the epidemic is many times worse than it's being reported.

00:07:38.880 I believe the Chinese Communist Party deliberately covered up the epidemic for probably two months.

00:07:46.080 And now the Chinese people once again are paying the price for the incompetence and sheer evil of the people who ruled them. 1.00

00:07:55.160 Unbelievable. 0.97

00:07:56.360 Unbelievable.

00:07:57.180 Well, there's something very, very interesting going on.

00:08:00.060 Speaking on Fox News, Senator Tom Cotton, Republican from Arkansas, he raised the possibility that the virus had originated in a high security biomedical lab in Wuhan, the Chinese city that the center is the center of the outbreak.

00:08:13.580 I want to talk about the biggest and the most important story in the world, the Wuhan coronavirus.

00:08:19.840 This coronavirus is a catastrophe on the scale of Chernobyl for China. 1.00

00:08:25.140 But actually, it's probably worse than Chernobyl, which was localized in its effect.

00:08:31.980 The coronavirus could result in a global pandemic.

00:08:36.000 While you are all sleeping overnight, the number of diagnosed cases in China increased by 30 percent.

00:08:43.600 Now, let me be clear.

00:08:44.480 That's not new cases.

00:08:47.040 That is just newly admitted cases.

00:08:50.100 It is probably several orders of magnitude higher than that.

00:08:57.280 Also, while you are sleeping, China now has its entire border with Russia closed.

00:09:03.520 2,600 miles, Russia has closed that border.

00:09:08.500 El Al has shut down travel between Israel and China.

00:09:12.040 Air France has shut down travel between China and France.

00:09:15.820 And that's in addition to all the other countries that have already shut down travel.

00:09:21.200 From what we know so far, and there are still many unknowns, this virus could have both a long incubation period, as much as 14 days, and individuals could be contagious while asymptomatic, which was not the case with SARS in 2003.

00:09:37.040 Furthermore, from some cases, it appears the virus could be aerosolized, which means it doesn't require the kind of contact that you have with, say, a married couple kissing each other or a family living in close quarters in a hotel or apartment, but rather the distances we are all sitting apart right now.

00:09:55.860 Yet China is still lying about all of this.

00:09:59.140 They've been lying about it from the very beginning, and you don't need their history of lying about SARS in 2003, though it is relevant here.

00:10:07.320 You just have to see what's happened over the last two months.

00:10:10.580 We now know that the first case manifested no later than, no later than December 1, even though China didn't reveal it to the WHO until a month later on December 31st.

00:10:21.140 When they continued to hide it from their own citizens, and they continued to say that it had been contained inside Wuhan, today it is in every single province in China.

00:10:34.140 They also claimed for almost two months, until earlier this week, that it had originated in a seafood market in Wuhan, that locals had contracted it from animals in, say, bat soup or snake tartare.

00:10:47.940 That is not the case.

00:10:51.040 The Lancet published a study last weekend demonstrating that of the original 40 cases, 14 of them had no contact with the seafood market, including patient zero.

00:11:01.560 As one epidemiologist said, that virus went into the seafood market before it came out of the seafood market.

00:11:07.560 We still don't know where it originated.

00:11:09.320 Could have been another seafood market.

00:11:10.860 Could have been a farm.

00:11:12.180 Could have been a food processing company.

00:11:13.640 I would note that China, that Wuhan also has China's only biosafety level four super laboratory that works with the world's most deadly pathogens to include, yes, coronavirus. 0.96

00:11:27.580 Do you think that this is a possibility or is it just some kind of conspiracy theory?

00:11:31.220 No, I think that we can be fairly certain that the virus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is located, of course, in the city of Wuhan, which is the epicenter of the epidemic.

00:11:48.500 And I think we can be certain that it escaped from the lab for two reasons.

00:11:52.220 The first reason is China's bioweapons program is an open secret in the United States in intelligence circles.

00:12:04.340 We know they're working on reengineering, genetically reengineering viruses and bacteria to make them more lethal and to be used as weapons of war.

00:12:14.340 We know that because they've said that openly.

00:12:17.180 They've written books, the former head of the National Defense University of the People's Liberation Army of China wrote a book in which he said the new high ground is the development of bioweapons that target specific ethnicities.

00:12:34.220 All right.

00:12:35.240 What specific ethnicities would be targeted?

00:12:37.760 Well, we assume that they wouldn't be targeting people of Chinese extraction.

00:12:42.400 They would be targeting people from Africa, other Asian populations, and, of course, people from Europe and North America.

00:12:51.020 So that's one bit of evidence.

00:12:53.080 We know that the only level four biocontainment laboratory in China is located in Wuhan.

00:13:01.000 We know that's where the most advanced research is being done.

00:13:05.600 We know that they have viruses they've collected from around the world, including viruses they've secreted out of Canada.

00:13:13.220 They stole from Canada and took to the Wuhan Institute of Virology last year.

00:13:18.460 And finally, there's this.

00:13:19.840 On February 14th, General Secretary Xi Jinping, who heads the Chinese Communist Party and is as close to an absolute dictator that we have seen in China since the days of Mao Zedong, held a meeting in which he said that lab biosafety should be treated as a national security issue.

00:13:43.080 He hosted a meeting in February 14th saying that he spoke about the outbreak of the COVID-19, the novel coronavirus that we've been talking about.

00:13:56.380 And he said the government must stop the epidemic and set up a system to prevent similar outbreaks in the future.

00:14:03.600 Now, if that is not an admission, John Henry, that the coronavirus escaped from the Institute of Virology in Wuhan, I don't know what is.

00:14:16.340 And the very following day, the meeting was on February 14th.

00:14:20.540 The following day, February 15th, the Ministry of Science and Technology of China rolled out new regulations, which are called Strengthening Biosecurity Management in Microbiology Labs that Handle Advanced Viruses at the Same Level as the New Coronavirus.

00:14:40.020 All right.

00:14:40.800 So I think that they've let the cat out of the bag.

00:14:43.600 I think that they've revealed exactly what happened, that the virus escaped from the laboratory and infected large numbers of people.

00:14:54.520 The officials at all levels probably tried to cover up their crime, beginning with the people who work in the Institute of Virology themselves and then moving to the city government of Wuhan, then the Hubei provincial government and then to the national level.

00:15:09.820 And the result of all these levels of cover up has been a two month delay in reporting the actual scope of the disease and continuing to lie about how it's spreading in China and what the mortality rate is.

00:15:23.960 You see, the way to handle a potential epidemic like this is to identify the new virus threat as quickly as possible, track where it came from, how it spread, what the mortality rate is, and get a handle on how to contain it very, very quickly.

00:15:42.340 In China, they did exactly the opposite.

00:15:44.860 They covered up its origins.

00:15:46.680 They hid the spread of the disease.

00:15:48.740 They, in fact, this is a man-made epidemic.

00:15:51.460 This need never have happened.

00:15:53.140 It is a result of the total incompetence of the labs in China and the sheer duplicity of the Chinese leadership in hiding this from the world. 0.96

00:16:04.860 And by the way, John Henry, the World Health Organization has done us no favors because the World Health Organization, of course, which works for the United Nations, reports to the major countries on the National Security Council, including China.

00:16:20.420 And I think the World Health Organization was anxious not to offend China.

00:16:25.240 So even after the Chinese government admitted it had a problem, the World Health Organization delayed calling for a quarantine of areas in China, delayed calling for a ban on direct flights to and from China, delayed telling us about the seriousness of the epidemic because they didn't want to upset the leaders of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:16:48.160 So they finally were able, two weeks into the epidemic, as reported by China, were finally able to send a delegation to China that should have been on the ground again two and a half months ago.

00:17:02.920 Unbelievable.

00:17:04.080 Unbelievable.

00:17:04.960 Let's unpack some of that.

00:17:06.780 I mean, there's lots that you've just said there.

00:17:09.000 So you said there was evidence that they stole the virus from Canada.

00:17:17.440 Where is that evidence?

00:17:19.100 What is that evidence?

00:17:21.060 Well, last March, there were shipments of viruses intercepted by Canada Post that were being sent from Canada to China.

00:17:34.480 And in June of last year, two Chinese researchers were escorted out of Canada's only level four viral research laboratory under guard by the rural Canadian mounted police.

00:17:54.120 And there is an ongoing investigation as to what they were doing in the level four laboratory and about the shipment of these viruses to China.

00:18:05.140 The two Chinese researchers who were arrested, by the way, had made multiple trips to, you guessed it, to Wuhan, to the Institute of Virology there.

00:18:16.580 So we know that China has been collecting dangerous viruses, including coronaviruses, from different parts of the world in order to do research on them. 0.90

00:18:28.360 We also know that they're trying an effort to develop, they're making an effort to develop bioweapons. 0.54

00:18:35.300 Now, I'm not saying that the coronavirus is a bioweapon.

00:18:40.920 The jury is still out on that point.

00:18:43.840 Whether or not it has been genetically engineered to make it more lethal is an open question.

00:18:49.660 But the truth of the matter is that it's fairly clear, I would give you pretty good odds, that this coronavirus escaped from the Institute of Virology in Wuhan,

00:19:01.900 which is located just a couple miles from the seafood market, which was blamed for as being the origin of the virus.

00:19:14.700 Remember, a few weeks ago, we were hearing about the seafood market in Wuhan City being the source of the virus.

00:19:22.480 We were told that it came from live snakes that were being sold in the seafood market.

00:19:28.160 It turns out, John Henry, snakes do not carry any coronaviruses.

00:19:34.120 We were then told that it came from bats, that bat soup and other bat delicacies that were being sold in the seafood market in Wuhan was the source of the coronavirus.

00:19:46.460 Well, bats are in hibernation in November and December.

00:19:50.820 Bat soup is not sold at the seafood market.

00:19:53.140 And genetic analysis shows that bats do not carry any coronavirus like the one that's causing the epidemic.

00:20:00.800 So, again, we've seen a whole series of excuses for the origin of the coronavirus when I think it's increasingly apparent that the coronavirus was being experimented on in the laboratory in Wuhan and escaped from the lab.

00:20:19.440 Now, here's another little bit of evidence.

00:20:21.660 Here's another data point.

00:20:22.620 Some people may remember in 2003, we had a SARS epidemic in China that spread to other countries around the world.

00:20:31.060 SARS stands for Sudden Extreme Respiratory Syndrome.

00:20:38.080 It killed less than 1,000 people in China, but, you know, it was very dangerous.

00:20:44.020 It killed 10% of the people that it infected.

00:20:46.420 There was a laboratory in Beijing, which twice in 2004, the year after the epidemic, while doing research on the SARS virus, knowing how dangerous it was, let it escape from the lab twice, causing additional deaths and infections.

00:21:06.060 So, we know that laboratory protocol in China has been very lax in the past.

00:21:11.920 We know that viruses, lethal viruses, have escaped from labs in the past.

00:21:16.500 So, they have a history of careless handling of these things.

00:21:20.100 And finally, there's this.

00:21:21.320 We also know that a number of researchers in China have been charged with the crime of selling research animals on the open market.

00:21:31.980 That is to say, you take a cow or a pig or a bat or a snake or whatever animal or a rat or a monkey that you're experimenting on that you're injecting viruses into to see how their systems respond.

00:21:47.620 And once you're done experimenting on the animal, you then take the animal to earn extra money, you sell it on the local live animal market.

00:21:56.780 You're supposed to cremate it, right?

00:22:00.120 Because it may be very dangerous viruses that you've been experimenting upon.

00:22:05.120 But that doesn't always happen in China.

00:22:07.740 You know, what sometimes happens in China is these experimental animals, which are purchased with research funds from the central government, are taken, if they're still alive, and sold to a butcher at the live animal market, and sold as an exotic food in China for a great deal of money.

00:22:27.580 Unbelievable.

00:22:29.080 Unbelievable.

00:22:30.800 Whoa.

00:22:31.860 What do you think we can expect to see on this?

00:22:36.440 And what do you think we can do, if anything, to help stop this or stop it in the future?

00:22:47.300 Well, I think there are several things we can do.

00:22:50.000 And the good news is that we have in place in North America and now in Europe, we have fairly strict quarantine protocols in place.

00:23:00.540 We're improving our testing methods for testing for the coronavirus infections almost on a daily basis.

00:23:09.900 And I think we're going to be able to contain the spread of the disease here.

00:23:15.920 I do not think that we need to be worried about a coronavirus epidemic in North America.

00:23:23.720 We are working as fast as we can to develop a way of immunizing people against the new coronavirus.

00:23:36.620 That research takes some time, of course.

00:23:39.540 It's not something you can do overnight.

00:23:41.900 In order to develop a vaccine, you have to, first of all, identify something on the coronavirus that you can attach to what you inject into the human body to generate an antibody to the pathogen.

00:24:03.020 And this takes time.

00:24:06.100 I mean, we can start testing the vaccine within six months.

00:24:10.260 We will probably have a vaccine within a year.

00:24:12.880 So if we can keep the coronavirus from reaching, from becoming serious in the United States until the end of the year, like other viruses, we will have the ability to immunize people against it.

00:24:24.120 And I would say this, whereas the SARS virus had a morbidity rate of 10 percent, that is, one in 10 people who contracted the SARS virus died, the mortality rate of the coronavirus seems to be around 2 percent.

00:24:41.760 We would know more precisely if the Chinese government would simply stop deceiving us about the numbers.

00:24:49.620 But so it's less lethal than the SARS virus.

00:24:53.800 We're quarantining it.

00:24:55.100 But we have to understand that there are many dimensions to the China threat.

00:25:02.740 We have heard a lot recently about the military threat from China, which is real. 0.92

00:25:06.960 We've heard a lot recently about the economic threat from China, which is real. 0.97

00:25:11.740 The undervaluing of Chinese products, currency manipulation and all the rest.

00:25:16.120 But there is a new threat from China, and it's twofold. 0.96

00:25:19.840 It's a health threat.

00:25:21.020 The first part of the health threat is that many of the medications that we consume in North America are made now in China because a Chinese consortium of drug manufacturers has driven North American manufacturers out of business in the early 2000s

00:25:39.280 and now have a virtual monopoly on many of the common generic medications that we use in the United States.

00:25:46.480 That's a vulnerability.

00:25:48.520 Many of those factories are located in Wuhan City.

00:25:52.080 Many of them are located in Hubei province.

00:25:55.640 If China shuts down Hubei for another month or two, we're going to start running short on vital medications that many Americans need to stay alive.

00:26:06.180 That's part one.

00:26:07.040 Part two is we now see a more general health threat from China. 0.94

00:26:11.840 We see that these dangerous pathogens seem to emanate from China, seem to come from China on a regular basis, not only because they're violating the biological weapons protocol that they signed in 1972 0.86

00:26:25.700 and are developing bioweapons, but also because they're so careless in their handling of lab animals and handling of live viruses.

00:26:34.600 So we have to distance ourselves.

00:26:36.780 We cannot be dependent upon Chinese medications, medications produced in China to maintain our own health. 1.00

00:26:44.920 And we have to be very careful about new viruses that might come from China in the future.

00:26:51.160 So China is really under the misrule of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:26:55.080 China is a threat across all domains, the military, the economic, the trade, and now the health domain. 0.98

00:27:03.360 What can people do other than pray?

00:27:08.560 I know a lot of viewers are going to be praying for the Chinese people and for an end to this horrific communist government there. 0.95

00:27:16.620 But is there a political solution?

00:27:19.400 Is there any kind of solution to the problem that is China today with the Communist Party?

00:27:22.960 Well, the people of China have seen again and again how they've been brutalized by the Chinese Communist Party.

00:27:34.020 I refer to the Chinese Communist Party accurately, I think, as the biggest killing machine in human history. 1.00

00:27:41.060 If you think about the 45 million people who died in the great famine of the early 1960s caused by the Chinese Communist Party,

00:27:50.420 caused by Chairman Mao's failed experiment in communization of agriculture.

00:27:56.760 If you think about the political purges of the 1950s and 60s and 70s,

00:28:01.240 if you think about the long-running one-child policy, which killed hundreds of millions of unborn children,

00:28:08.060 you total that up and the death toll from the Chinese Communist Party is probably around 500 million people.

00:28:15.160 That's just a number.

00:28:18.460 But we're now seeing thousands of people, maybe tens of thousands of people,

00:28:23.380 added to that number right now in Wuhan and in other parts of China.

00:28:29.580 Right now in China, we have not just Hubei province with its 60 million people.

00:28:35.360 We have Jiangxi province and we have Heilongjiang province in the far north up in Manchuria,

00:28:41.160 also quarantined.

00:28:43.420 That's 170 million people, John Henry.

00:28:46.180 We have four cities quarantined, major cities, and we have about 26 minor cities quarantined.

00:28:52.500 That's another 110 million people.

00:28:55.200 So we have right now under quarantine in China,

00:28:58.800 with rail traffic and road traffic basically at a standstill,

00:29:02.220 we have almost 25% of the Chinese population under quarantine

00:29:07.480 from an epidemic that should never have happened in the first place.

00:29:12.000 That's equal to the population of the United States or thereabouts.

00:29:15.060 We need to be praying for the people of China.

00:29:17.400 We know that Catholics and Christians have always gone above and beyond the call of duty 1.00

00:29:23.980 in situations like this.

00:29:26.920 I'm sure that our brothers and sisters in Christ are doing all they can

00:29:30.360 to help the sick and the dying, which we see from YouTube videos.

00:29:37.120 There are dead bodies laying on the streets of the city of Wuhan.

00:29:41.440 There are corpses lined up in the hallways of hospitals,

00:29:45.780 waited to be loaded into hearses, to be taken to crematoria,

00:29:49.620 to be cremated as quickly as possible.

00:29:53.000 We know the ovens are going day and night to cremate the bodies of those who died from this.

00:29:58.340 But we also know that our Christian brothers and sisters are doing all they can

00:30:02.100 to help the sick and dying.

00:30:06.340 Absolutely.

00:30:07.280 There was one video I saw that was going viral of people.

00:30:11.040 It looked like people were shooting, officials were shooting people in the streets.

00:30:15.820 Any idea what that is?

00:30:17.160 And if that was connected at all to coronavirus?

00:30:19.580 China has a great wall around its Internet.

00:30:25.460 And so, you know, not every video shot in China makes it out of the country.

00:30:30.840 And so it's sometimes hard to say, you know, when the videos were shot

00:30:34.500 and what's actually happening in the videos.

00:30:39.340 I saw the same video.

00:30:41.360 I'm following everything I can get my hands on out of China as closely as possible. 0.94

00:30:45.960 I've seen many heart-rending videos of people being brutally arrested and beaten by the police

00:30:54.940 for going out on the street without a mask on their face.

00:30:59.240 I've seen other videos of police going to the doors of people who have the coronavirus

00:31:05.520 and taking them by force into what are called quarantine centers,

00:31:12.400 but are really detention centers, are really concentration camps

00:31:17.300 to hold those people who are sick with the dying

00:31:20.460 and isolate them from the larger population.

00:31:24.500 And make no mistake about what the priorities of the government are here.

00:31:27.800 We know what the priorities of the government are here

00:31:29.680 because they've said openly what they are.

00:31:31.880 The priorities of the Chinese Communist Party, according to the director of the National Health Service,

00:31:37.720 are, number one, politics, number two, safety, and number three, a cure.

00:31:44.320 In other words, we have to politically protect the image of the Chinese Communist Party

00:31:49.340 and prevent the epidemic from creating a counter-revolution against communist rule.

00:31:54.900 So politics is in command.

00:31:57.160 Number two, safety. Safety means arresting anyone who has the coronavirus

00:32:03.140 and putting them in a detention center to separate them from the rest of the population.

00:32:09.260 So it's a forced quarantine.

00:32:10.860 Not the kind of quarantine we have here, where you get to go outside

00:32:14.920 and you're just told to stay, you know, 10 feet away from your neighbor to avoid infecting them.

00:32:20.640 The quarantine there, they're putting them in buildings with bars on the windows and police outside.

00:32:25.420 And very little in the way of medical care.

00:32:29.240 Cure comes third.

00:32:31.140 The people who are being put into these detention centers are basically being abandoned.

00:32:36.400 The Chinese government calls them hospitals.

00:32:38.960 A hospital, John Henry, has medical workers and it has medical supplies.

00:32:43.960 These detention centers have virtually none of either.

00:32:47.840 There are places where you send people where they either get well on their own or they die.

00:32:52.960 But they're isolated from the larger population.

00:32:56.440 So this is a kind of brutal triage system where the infected are simply taken away,

00:33:02.560 put in detention centers and left to have their own immune systems handle the disease.

00:33:07.860 But if you've seen pictures of the detention centers, the beds are only three feet apart, four feet apart.

00:33:13.140 And what that means is that you may go into the detention center with a mild case of coronavirus

00:33:19.020 and can be reinfected by a person in the bed next to you.

00:33:22.520 Or maybe someone down the row has another infectious disease that you get a bacterial pneumonia

00:33:29.440 on top of your viral pneumonia and you die from a secondary infection.

00:33:33.560 So these are places that are very, very dangerous in terms of the mortality rates,

00:33:39.700 I'm afraid, in these places is going to be very, very high.

00:33:42.260 But remember, politics first, safety of the larger population second,

00:33:48.040 and maybe we'll find a cure at some point.

00:33:50.440 But in the meantime, we're going to simply deal with those who have the infection

00:33:54.120 by cutting them off, by amputating them from the body politic altogether. 0.95

00:33:59.840 Wow. 0.88

00:34:00.820 One of the most interesting things about speaking with you, Stephen,

00:34:03.580 is that you understand so many of the Chinese languages.

00:34:06.520 You're able to watch the videos in their original without needing to see the text underneath,

00:34:11.800 not only do you know they're accurate,

00:34:13.700 what is the message that the Chinese themselves are trying to convey to the rest of the world?

00:34:19.400 Well, I've seen many videos out of China that were recorded by journalists in the early days of the epidemic.

00:34:29.520 Those journalists have now all disappeared.

00:34:31.580 They've been arrested and they're being held somewhere in prison.

00:34:34.120 Maybe they're being put in an detention center so they can be infected and die as well.

00:34:39.100 Who knows?

00:34:40.340 But occasionally people do record interviews.

00:34:44.920 There was one I saw, heartbreaking video that came out just recently,

00:34:51.500 of a young woman who had lost her family to the epidemic,

00:34:56.480 the father, mother and siblings,

00:34:57.820 and was now alone in the world and was crying out to the Chinese people

00:35:03.420 and crying out to the world about how the Chinese Communist Party was once again destroying the Chinese people.

00:35:10.940 She was calling for independence for China.

00:35:14.820 She was calling for independence for Hong Kong.

00:35:17.020 She was calling for independence for Taiwan, independence for Tibet.

00:35:20.700 And she was saying, at the end, she said,

00:35:24.140 I know that my life is now forfeit because I've made this recording,

00:35:29.740 but every revolution requires sacrifice,

00:35:34.280 and I'm willing to sacrifice my life so that we can end the rule of the Chinese Communist Party in China.

00:35:43.280 She may already be dead, John Henry.

00:35:46.500 Right, right.

00:35:48.500 Unbelievable.

00:35:48.980 Well, any closing words for us, Stephen,

00:35:51.800 for all of us who are listening and really praying for the Chinese people

00:35:56.220 for an end to this criminal communist government?

00:35:59.980 The Chinese people are, of course,

00:36:02.720 the first and foremost victims of the atheistic communist regime

00:36:08.760 that has ruled China for the last 70 years.

00:36:12.560 But we know that every dynasty in China has fallen sooner or later,

00:36:19.800 and the coronavirus epidemic may provide the impetus for the collapse of this regime as well.

00:36:28.720 If you look not just at the epidemic,

00:36:31.260 but at the pressure that the West is now beginning to put on China because of its cheating on trade,

00:36:37.200 if you look at the other problems that China has in Hong Kong,

00:36:44.440 the continued independence of Taiwan as a beacon of freedom for the Chinese people,

00:36:49.860 a beacon of hope for them to think that they too might one day be free.

00:36:52.900 All of these things are coming together and we can pray that this is the perfect storm

00:36:58.920 that by God's grace will lead to the end of communist rule in China

00:37:04.760 and a new dawn of freedom and religious freedom for the Chinese people.

00:37:08.980 Amen. Amen.

00:37:12.580 Stephen Mosher, thank you so much for being with us on this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:37:17.100 May God bless you.

00:37:18.240 Thank you, John Henry. God bless you.

00:37:20.860 And God bless all of you too. We'll see you next time.

The John-Henry Westen Show - February 20, 2020

Coronavirus： Leading China expert details the reality

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