The John-Henry Westen Show - November 16, 2021


Dr. Peter McCullough sues medical journal for refusing to publish study showing COVID shot risks for children

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Dr. Peter McCullough has been the foremost medical professional dealing with the COVID-19 crisis, and with the crisis now being caused by the so-called COVID vaccines, and we are so privileged to speak with him now.

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00:00:00.000 Multiple authors published in toxicology reports clearly showed that at every age range, one was more likely to die with the COVID-19 vaccine than take their chances with COVID-19, the respiratory illness.
00:00:15.000 Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where I am so pleased to have for you a guest that is well known to all of you by now.
00:00:22.400 Dr. Peter McCullough has been the foremost medical professional dealing with the COVID-19 crisis and with the crisis now being caused by the so-called COVID vaccines.
00:00:37.100 And we are so privileged to speak with him now. You're going to want to stay tuned for this one.
00:00:52.400 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:01:03.340 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:01:08.980 Dr. Peter McCullough, thanks for being with us.
00:01:11.220 Thanks for having me.
00:01:11.800 You know, you have been called an authority on this subject, and you do have the authority on this subject.
00:01:19.100 But if you wouldn't mind, give us a description of yourself that is the reason why you have this authority in COVID-19 in this subject, more than most physicians actually in the world.
00:01:31.940 I'm an academic internist cardiologist.
00:01:34.240 I'm a trained epidemiologist.
00:01:35.720 I trained at one of the nation's top schools of public health at University of Michigan in epidemiology.
00:01:40.820 And I have a clinical practice that's focused on medical issues in patients broadly in adult medicine and then in non-invasive cardiology.
00:01:50.260 And so I manage patients with common infections.
00:01:52.740 I've, in my fourth decade of practicing medicine, I maintain my board certifications in both specialties.
00:01:58.020 But I'm also an academic physician.
00:01:59.840 I'm an editor of a major cardiovascular journal, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine.
00:02:03.840 I'm the former editor of a multidisciplinary journal for many years.
00:02:07.840 I'm an author, and I've published over 650 publications in the National Library of Medicine, PubMed, either as a first author or senior author or in an author block.
00:02:19.800 And when COVID-19 hit, I dedicated my scholarship and my skills in the clinical sciences towards COVID-19, as many physicians did, patriotically, in a sense, to help out their countries and help out the world.
00:02:32.720 So I've been joined by a cadre of wonderful scientists all over the world that have broken the news that we can treat COVID-19 to reduce hospitalizations and death.
00:02:42.000 And now we have a very careful eye on vaccine safety and efficacy.
00:02:45.240 The data are rolling out so quickly that we really do need our top shelf clinical scientists and epidemiologists to weigh in and provide opinion.
00:02:52.640 And as you pointed out, the nation has asked me that.
00:02:55.640 I've given my sworn testimony before the U.S. Senate, as well as multiple state senates and houses of legislation.
00:03:03.200 I'm commonly, I'm a commentator on many news programs, Fox News, OAN, Real America, a whole variety of programs.
00:03:11.560 And largely, it's because I've given accurate citation and reporting of the medical literature.
00:03:18.020 The science is, it rolls out, and I've kept it free of opinion.
00:03:21.280 I tell people, listen, it's not information.
00:03:23.100 It's not misinformation.
00:03:24.520 It's just the scientific data.
00:03:25.980 And now we are holding seminars across the nation, and crowds are drawing between 500, 5,000 at a time.
00:03:33.680 And these are people who could be out watching the new James Bond movie, but instead they're in crowded hotel ballrooms to learn about the science of COVID-19,
00:03:41.500 clearly understand the data on effective treatments and emerging data on new treatments coming along, as well as on vaccine safety and efficacy.
00:03:49.780 On that issue of vaccine safety, there is something called the VAERS database.
00:03:55.760 Explain to us, if you will, what that is and what your findings have been with regard to VAERS and how the VAERS numbers compare to things like wars and, you know, disasters, national disasters.
00:04:09.020 There are three major safety reporting systems in the world for vaccines that I'm aware of.
00:04:14.640 One is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System you mentioned in the United States, hosted by the Center for Disease Control.
00:04:20.440 The other one is the Yellow Card System in the UK, hosted by the MHRA in the UK, and then the UDRS system in Europe.
00:04:27.920 And they all agree.
00:04:28.800 They're actually all very similar in terms of their findings in COVID-19.
00:04:32.900 Our CDC also has a V-safe registry that can be used for research, and that's participating with some integrated health systems, and researchers have used them.
00:04:43.080 Importantly, the VAERS data is open for researchers to do descriptive research.
00:04:47.760 It's not terribly good for analytic research because there's no control group, but we certainly can report on what's going on, and we rely on the VAERS system as an early warning system.
00:04:57.740 And as you alluded to, the most alarming thing that is in the VAERS and the yellow card and the UDRS system is death.
00:05:06.040 And so it's death occurring after vaccination.
00:05:09.120 We know with VAERS that about 86% of the reports into VAERS from a prior study in the pediatric literature are from people who are healthcare workers or are the pharmaceutical companies,
00:05:22.920 people who really think the vaccine could be related to the death.
00:05:25.480 Only 14% are reported by the patient's family, so we know that these are very serious reports.
00:05:30.880 And what's in the open VAERS overlay, what's called the red box report, those are VAERS cases that have actually been assigned a permanent VAERS number.
00:05:38.880 That means the CDC has basically confirmed that the individual has died.
00:05:43.420 The number we have as of October 29th is staggering, and it includes both domestic cases and then the other countries that report into our system.
00:05:53.120 But the number is over 18,000 individuals reported who have died.
00:05:58.420 We know from two analyses, one by Rose and one by McLachlan using the VAERS system, Rose restricted it to the domestic cases,
00:06:06.020 that we know that 50% of these deaths occur within two days of getting the shot.
00:06:11.160 80% occur within a week.
00:06:13.300 And 86% of the time, there's no other ready explanation.
00:06:16.140 Now, we have some nursing home studies separately from Northern EU and Scandinavia that suggest that when reviewers look at this,
00:06:24.320 that about 40% of the deaths are directly due to the vaccine.
00:06:27.540 I mean, the doctors really think the vaccine is the proximate cause of death.
00:06:31.360 But whatever that number is, it's too high.
00:06:33.440 From a regulatory perspective, I can tell you any death within 30 days of administration of a product is of concern and demands review.
00:06:40.680 And the shocking storyline here is that our federal agencies have given no safety report to America.
00:06:46.980 We deserved a monthly safety report.
00:06:49.440 We needed to understand early on who's dying after the vaccine and why are they dying.
00:06:53.360 And importantly, how can we avoid it?
00:06:55.200 How can we make sure the next shot is going to be safe?
00:06:57.960 And so what happened was over time, we never got those safety reports.
00:07:02.000 Actually, January 22nd, we already had over 180 deaths.
00:07:05.700 That surpassed the roughly 150 we expected, and that was only with 27 million Americans vaccinated.
00:07:11.580 So if we had a data safety monitoring board, human ethics board, and critical event committee, which should have been in place, and it wasn't,
00:07:18.440 this program would have been shut down in February, probably with about 27 million people vaccinated.
00:07:23.680 It would be very similar to the swine flu vaccine, which had about 25 deaths in 1976.
00:07:28.560 It was shut down.
00:07:29.460 It rose to about 53 deaths.
00:07:31.300 We clearly had an excess of about 30 deaths more than expected from the whole system by January 22nd.
00:07:38.600 If you can imagine now, now running up to over 18,000 certified deaths, over 9,000 estimated domestically, far and away, Americans are on edge.
00:07:49.980 There was an internet survey that came out this summer and asked the question, do you know someone who's died after the vaccine?
00:07:56.180 And, you know, the response is, and granted, it's not scientific, but the answer was 12%.
00:08:00.040 That's enough for people to get concerned.
00:08:02.420 So everybody in their family circles, I'm a doctor, so I've had someone in my practice die after the vaccine.
00:08:07.920 So everybody knows it's possible.
00:08:10.540 And so because of that, John Henry, we have anxiety in the United States, in the world, like you can't imagine.
00:08:17.300 People are being told they have to take the vaccine, but yet they don't want to die, but they don't want to lose their job.
00:08:22.520 You can't imagine the anxiety and the stress that everybody's being put under because of the risk of death with these vaccines.
00:08:30.140 It's creating not only that juxtaposition where they want to survive with their families, et cetera, et cetera, but the psychological trauma.
00:08:37.180 There's so many medical issues that are going on here.
00:08:40.500 But just for this interview, I'd like to concentrate on the VAERS right now.
00:08:44.440 You had a recently published study that was pulled.
00:08:48.800 It was already peer-reviewed.
00:08:50.440 It was already accepted.
00:08:52.280 It was already published even and then pulled.
00:08:55.660 Please tell us what happened there.
00:08:57.300 Like I told you, I've published over 650 papers that are cited in the National Library of Medicine.
00:09:02.500 I'm the editor of a major journal.
00:09:04.740 I make editorial decisions every day.
00:09:06.560 I run editorial offices for journals.
00:09:08.780 I know exactly how this process works.
00:09:11.120 So here we had a paper.
00:09:12.200 The lead author is Jessica Rose.
00:09:14.400 She's a viral epidemiologist, so she's one of the top-shelf people in the world on this.
00:09:19.060 She knows the VAERS system.
00:09:20.760 She did a valid analysis of myocarditis occurring after the messenger RNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna.
00:09:28.160 And she had a manuscript.
00:09:30.280 I was a co-author.
00:09:31.060 This was welcomed by a major cardiology journal, The Current Problems in Cardiology.
00:09:36.720 There was an editorial dialogue.
00:09:38.400 There was a back and forth, as there always is in the vetting process.
00:09:41.920 Ultimately, the manuscript was fully accepted.
00:09:44.260 Galley proofs were created.
00:09:45.460 They were approved.
00:09:46.640 There were copyright assignments, publication contracts, fees that were paid.
00:09:51.340 There was a listing in the National Library of Medicine and PubMed.
00:09:55.180 And this paper became part of medical history.
00:09:58.720 It was basically completed.
00:10:00.620 It's a completed paper.
00:10:01.920 And we were stunned five days before the FDA meeting on vaccination children ages 5 to 11.
00:10:11.020 Five days before that critical meeting, this paper was pulled down by Elsevier.
00:10:16.520 It said temporarily removed in the listing in PubMed.
00:10:19.900 And we started getting emails coming in from all over the world.
00:10:22.280 People needed to review the data.
00:10:24.360 And we received an email from Elsevier.
00:10:27.760 It says, we've temporarily removed your paper because we are questioning whether or not the editor of the journal actually invited the paper.
00:10:35.960 Well, we have the entire dialogue back and forth.
00:10:38.120 If the editor said he wasn't interested in the paper, it would have stopped right there.
00:10:41.800 So it was obvious we had the editorial dialogue there, which is standard in publication.
00:10:47.760 And we reviewed the contract.
00:10:50.980 We said, well, what are the reasons that they can really pull down a paper?
00:10:53.980 And really the reasons they could is if there was scientific misconduct or if there was some error in the data analysis that was found later on.
00:11:00.560 And in fact, none of that was mentioned.
00:11:02.060 So we think this is an overt act of censorship.
00:11:05.620 The defendant in this case is going to be Elsevier, the world's largest medical publisher, and their offices are in the Netherlands.
00:11:13.620 We will be launching a full-scale lawsuit against Elsevier.
00:11:18.500 And it's going to be for breach of contract.
00:11:20.480 I mean, obviously, publication fees were paid, copyright assignments, all of that.
00:11:23.860 You can't undo all that.
00:11:24.900 So they've obviously breached the contract.
00:11:26.300 And then importantly, it'll be probably for another legal infraction called tortuous interference, which means that they have interfered in the business of scientific publication.
00:11:37.800 They've interfered with the business of disseminating information on a topic of public interest in a time of crisis.
00:11:47.220 So you can't imagine the type of heat that Elsevier is going to feel with this action.
00:11:53.740 It was very obvious.
00:11:54.620 In fact, the attempted censorship drew more attention to the paper.
00:12:00.100 There was more requests for the preprint version.
00:12:03.140 And it probably worked to actually publicize the paper more than it ever would have received.
00:12:08.260 So what were they trying to hide?
00:12:09.780 What did the paper discover and show?
00:12:12.320 I think the most notable finding is that this myocarditis heart inflammation that occurs typically on the second shot after either Pfizer or Moderna, it is explosive.
00:12:22.260 And it happens within a few days of the second shot.
00:12:25.380 But, you know, the previous thinking was that it was restricted in age groups.
00:12:29.540 You know, we saw cases all the way up to age 50, boys and men more than girls and women.
00:12:35.440 So the penumbra of risk, if you will, for myocarditis is much larger.
00:12:41.780 And the caseload is substantial.
00:12:43.840 I can tell you that the CDC and FDA in June, they had a universe of cases of 600.
00:12:49.200 They had enough data to read 200.
00:12:51.360 And they said two things that I think was incorrect and actually very reckless for the country.
00:12:55.860 They said that myocarditis was rare.
00:12:58.640 It was just a conclusion based on dead reckoning.
00:13:01.460 And they also said it was mild.
00:13:02.660 And I can tell you, in the original FDA review in June, 90% of these kids were hospitalized.
00:13:09.340 So by definition, by regulatory definition, that's a serious adverse event.
00:13:13.700 Anything that puts somebody in the hospital is always serious.
00:13:15.820 It's never considered mild.
00:13:16.960 Never.
00:13:17.900 The second thing is, I said, it's rare.
00:13:19.640 Well, they didn't check everybody for that.
00:13:21.400 And we had hardly vaccinated any children in the spring.
00:13:24.120 Well, here we are now in November of 2021.
00:13:27.500 We have over 11,000 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis.
00:13:32.620 And I was on national TV back in June.
00:13:34.180 I told Americans, listen, this is not mild and it's not rare.
00:13:37.820 It's serious.
00:13:39.000 And now we have data from Tracy Hogue, University of California, Davis, August 30th, published
00:13:43.960 in preprint, used the VAERS and the V-SAFE data.
00:13:47.180 What she showed was stunning.
00:13:48.920 Still 86% of these thousands of cases of children are now still hospitalized.
00:13:53.980 So it's equally as serious as it ever was.
00:13:56.200 And then very importantly, explosive in men, much more than women.
00:14:00.080 The estimates are in terms of frequencies, that this is far in excess of occurrence of
00:14:06.080 frequency in terms of those receiving the shot than the CDC had ever estimated.
00:14:09.760 And she showed that in a comparative figure.
00:14:12.580 And then lastly, that the trade-off was really amazing.
00:14:16.500 And parents need to listen to this.
00:14:17.700 A child, in her analysis, age 12 to 17, is more likely to be hospitalized with myocarditis
00:14:25.820 than taking their chances with COVID-19 and ever being hospitalized with COVID-19, the
00:14:30.580 respiratory illness.
00:14:31.580 And that doesn't assume that there's any treatment.
00:14:34.080 And we can easily treat children with nebulizers, inhalers, simple oral drugs, and we can always
00:14:38.940 avoid the hospital admission.
00:14:40.140 So at this point in time, the FDA is warning parents.
00:14:43.520 They're warning parents that myocarditis with Pfizer and Moderna, effectively telling parents,
00:14:47.860 don't administer the vaccine to your children.
00:14:49.980 I think parents really ought to heed these warnings.
00:14:52.960 This is unbelievable.
00:14:54.180 From all of your research, what do you think is actually more dangerous?
00:14:58.940 Being injected with these COVID-19 so-called vaccines or to actually get the disease itself
00:15:05.180 with the treatments that are available?
00:15:07.760 You know, the FDA now, on two occasions in September and October, has heard these analysis,
00:15:13.480 the one by Tracy Hoag, younger people more likely to be hospitalized with myocarditis with
00:15:17.920 the vaccine.
00:15:18.940 And it has to do with what's called determinism.
00:15:20.860 This is important.
00:15:21.780 When someone takes the shot, there's a 100% chance they've gotten the exposure to the shot.
00:15:26.400 If somebody defers on the vaccine, it's not 100% they're going to get COVID.
00:15:31.080 In fact, many people actually avoid COVID completely.
00:15:33.420 So it's not so deterministic to actually defer and take your chances of community-acquired COVID.
00:15:38.600 But Hoag showed, again, more dangerous to take the vaccine and be hospitalized with myocarditis
00:15:42.820 than be hospitalized with a respiratory condition.
00:15:45.160 And then the second analysis, very important, Ron Kostoff, multiple authors, published in
00:15:50.020 toxicology reports, clearly showed that at every age range, one was more likely to die
00:15:55.700 with the COVID-19 vaccine than take their chances with COVID-19, the respiratory illness.
00:16:01.180 And again, none of that assumes early treatment.
00:16:03.380 When we get activated with early treatment, our tools are so powerful now with the GlaxoSmithKline
00:16:08.120 monoclonal antibody, Regeneron monoclonal antibody, nutraceutical supplements, nasal and
00:16:13.860 oral decontamination, then the oral drugs, that we can head off virtually all of these hospitalizations
00:16:19.880 and deaths now.
00:16:20.840 So the vaccine does not look favorable at all for the outcomes of myocarditis or death.
00:16:26.360 It's an incredible thing that we've dealing with.
00:16:29.320 Now, what's going on right now?
00:16:31.180 There's many, many tensions in families, especially around Thanksgiving.
00:16:35.600 You know, people are being warned right now, don't get together at Thanksgiving.
00:16:39.860 There's untold numbers of stories of, you know, people saying to their relatives, grandparents
00:16:46.040 or grandparents telling grandchildren or children and grandchildren, unless you're vaccinated,
00:16:51.200 you're not coming.
00:16:51.840 So there's incredible pressure coming, familial pressure coming from this.
00:16:56.480 What do you have to say about allowing your unvaccinated relatives to attend, you know, 0.99
00:17:03.720 your Thanksgiving celebration without a vaccine?
00:17:06.380 Is there any scientific sense in that kind of approach?
00:17:11.540 Well, this year is a lot different than last year.
00:17:13.340 Last year, we didn't have the data, but we do now.
00:17:15.720 Fortunately, the virus doesn't spread unless somebody has symptoms.
00:17:19.080 So this is very reassuring now to people all over the world.
00:17:22.560 So if a child is not sick, they can't spread the virus.
00:17:25.660 They are of no threat.
00:17:26.500 Same thing, if a senior citizen is not sick, he or she can't spread the virus either.
00:17:30.660 So all we need to do is really just pay attention to symptoms.
00:17:33.760 You know what it feels like when you're coming down with a cold?
00:17:36.180 We need that perceptiveness.
00:17:37.840 When those symptoms come on, for those who still are susceptible, they need to stay home,
00:17:41.860 not to engage in congregate activities.
00:17:44.260 And then if they're still susceptible to go ahead and get a COVID test, this is very important.
00:17:48.160 Now, if somebody has already had COVID and recovered, then they can't get it a second
00:17:52.720 time.
00:17:53.160 So they're safe no matter what happens.
00:17:55.580 So we know a lot more now than we did a year ago, and it's just simply paying attention
00:17:59.720 to symptoms.
00:18:00.600 And that's what's gone on.
00:18:02.020 I had a wonderful conversation with a doctor at Karolinska Institute this week in Sweden,
00:18:07.300 and that's exactly what they're doing.
00:18:08.440 They're just paying attention to the symptoms.
00:18:10.320 And if somebody has symptoms, they don't go to school or go to work.
00:18:13.280 And if they develop symptoms at school or work, they discharge them home promptly.
00:18:16.580 It's probably the only time one needs to wear a mask, by the way, is that if one develops
00:18:21.280 symptoms at school, I'd say put on a mask and then go ahead and retreat away from others
00:18:26.100 and go home and get a test.
00:18:28.740 The natural immunity now is really going to carry us.
00:18:31.240 The CDC at the meetings for the adolescents, now the children, acknowledged that we're probably
00:18:38.120 at 40% of the children have already had COVID-19.
00:18:42.200 That's through May.
00:18:43.660 That's before the Delta outbreak.
00:18:45.600 And Jennifer Block published in the British Medical Journal in mid-September that she estimated
00:18:51.620 by CDC and U.S. census data that 120 million Americans had already had COVID-19 before the
00:18:58.340 Delta outbreak.
00:18:59.460 Now, the Delta outbreak was a big curve.
00:19:01.120 It was actually two-thirds of our pre-vaccination curve last December.
00:19:04.780 We're probably at 200 million Americans that are already through the infection.
00:19:08.400 In the big symposiums we're having nationally, I usually ask for a show of hands.
00:19:12.040 It's easily half to two-thirds of people already had COVID-19, and no one's wearing masks.
00:19:17.220 You see that big college football games now, 100,000 people in the stadium.
00:19:21.560 No one's wearing masks.
00:19:22.540 They're sitting shoulder to shoulder.
00:19:23.840 There's no major outbreaks occurring.
00:19:25.760 We're going to have a low rate of steady COVID-19 increasingly among the vaccinated.
00:19:31.480 And I think this is the reason why seniors are on edge.
00:19:34.360 You know, the majority of Americans who took the vaccine, they did it before April of last
00:19:38.360 year.
00:19:39.280 Vaccine rates fell off mid-April because people became worried about death and disability and
00:19:44.760 complications with the vaccine.
00:19:46.560 And we have 22 studies now showing, unfortunately, the vaccine immunity wanes.
00:19:50.560 And effectively, at six months, people are now unvaccinated.
00:19:54.140 And so in mid-September, our FDA actually did approve boosters or suggest boosters, and the
00:20:02.760 CDC agrees for seniors over 65 and those with high exposures to COVID-19.
00:20:09.900 And so in Israel, as an example now, they reclassified everybody who's more than six months after
00:20:15.240 the first immunization schedule.
00:20:17.220 They're now reclassified as being unvaccinated.
00:20:19.800 So right now, you know, we had approached 60% of Americans who have taken the vaccine, fully
00:20:26.480 immunized, and over 80% of our seniors were about ready to, in a sense, turn everybody back
00:20:33.620 over to the unvaccinated state.
00:20:35.720 Unbelievable.
00:20:36.420 Dr. Peter McCullough, thank you so much for being with us.
00:20:39.080 Godspeed to you.
00:20:39.900 I pray that your lawsuit against Elsevier really works to show that they just can't cancel for
00:20:47.940 an ideological position, and yet that's what's happening with the whole cancel culture.
00:20:53.000 Godspeed to you.
00:20:53.860 May God bless you.
00:20:55.000 And have a very happy Thanksgiving.
00:20:56.880 Thank you.
00:20:57.240 Same to you.
00:20:58.260 And God bless all of you.
00:20:59.660 We'll see you next time on The John Henry Weston Show.
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