In this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, Professor Roberto Di Mattei, Emeritus at the University of Rome, talks about the need for a militant resistance to the silence of the church, and the role of a militant witness.
00:08:19.840These kinds of symbolic gestures, these symbols, they really do confront a symbolic kind of a war that
00:08:30.560we are receiving from those in the church that are proposing the other side. A lot of what we talked about before about Pope Francis's actions
00:08:39.200are symbolic, rather than, you know, change in doctrine per se, or anything like that. But, you know, there's these,
00:08:46.640those are symbolic things. Now, from a historical perspective, is there precedent for that kind of
00:08:52.400war of symbolism, if you will? Yes, I think that all the history of the church has been made by historical acts.
00:09:08.320For example, we remember the revolution of Luther, the Protestant revolution, because Luther
00:09:17.440put his thesis on the Church of Wittenberg in November 1517. It was a symbolic act or when the Pope Boniface VIII was outraged
00:09:43.280in Anagni by an emissary of the king of France. We can quote many, many, many symbolic acts committed against the church or also act
00:10:00.080good acts, because all of the martyrs, with their martyrdom, they give a witness, a symbolic witness. But what is the difference
00:10:18.800between the good Catholic symbolism and the bad diabolical symbolism? It is that our symbolic acts are addressed to God. So are acts
00:10:39.520which want to connect, to connect, to link the earth and the heaven, and it is, so the symbolic act is like a prayer, which links the heaven and the earth.
00:10:56.640On the contrary, on the contrary, the symbolic acts of our adversaries are addressed to the men, and it is in the mediatic era,
00:11:10.640the importance for our adversaries. I would like to speak of a mediatic act for our adversaries is very important, but the mediatic era gives us a very strong opportunity
00:11:36.960for opposing strong symbolic act, which have a mediatic impact to the mediatic gestures of our adversaries.
00:11:53.440And I think that we have to confront, during the pontificate of Pope Francis, I think that this confrontation could be very, very important and useful.
00:12:09.440And what kind of appeal to heaven do we need to make? What would you suggest? We are entering an era of real
00:12:21.920demonic powers, demonic powers, obviously. Where have you gone in your appeal? What was the first Asia's Ordinata? What was the appeal to heaven in that one?
00:12:35.920I think that today, as always, the struggle is between two armies. One army is headed by Our Lady, by the Blessed Virgin, the other by Lucifer, the head of the Diabolical Legions.
00:13:04.240The Blessed Virgin wins. The Blessed Virgin wins always, because the devil is an instrument of God. So we have not to put on the same level as the two armies. One army always wins and the other has already lost
00:13:28.240For the beginning of the time. Anyway, I think that, as Saint-Louis, the Grignon de Montfort says in his Treaty of the True Devotion, this struggle, it is perhaps the characterises above all our time.
00:13:56.240Above all our times, which are the last times, not in the sense that we are necessarily at the eve or the end of the world, but last times in the sense that are very, very, very strong times where the last decision, the more important decision of the history will be taken.
00:14:22.240And in this struggle, I think that it is very important, not only the role of Our Lady, but also the role of the Angels, because the Angels are the instruments of the Divine Providence for governing things, not only all the physical things in the Earth, but also for
00:14:50.240For helping the faithful, for punishing the enemies of the Church. All the history of the Church has the presence of the Angels. For example, in the Crusades was very important, the presence of the Angels near to the Crusaders.
00:15:16.240For example, in the Crusades, and also in the Crusades, the message of Fatima is characterised since the beginning by the presence of the Angels.
00:15:29.240From the Crusades, from the Crusades, from the Crusades, they announced the Angel who preceded the Blessed Virgin until the Angel of the Third Secret. So I think it is very important today to pray the Angel.
00:15:53.240Beautiful. And so, any final thoughts, just with regard to where the Church is right now, how we are to comprehend the Holy Father and still hold Him as the Holy Father when it seems so crazy in the Church?
00:16:09.240Yeah, so how are we to comprehend the situation in the Church? It seems, how should we regard the Holy Father as the Pope still while all of this is going on?
00:16:28.240He seems to be the author of so much of the confusion in the Church.
00:16:32.240I think that there is, of course, an error, which is the pepolatry. I mean, the idea that the Pope is always infallible and all what the Pope says and makes is perfect and infallible.
00:16:59.240But I think that there is the danger of the opposite error. I mean, to say that the Pope is the centre of all, also in a bad way, I mean, that he is the author of all the evil in the Church.
00:17:19.240So, today, I think that perhaps we are sometimes too concentrated in the figure of Pope Francis or imagining that he is perfect or imagining that he is the Antichrist.
00:17:39.240I think that, imagine, for example, that tomorrow there is no more Pope Francis because he dies or resigns or, I don't know, how can he be out of the scene.
00:17:58.240But the crisis of the Church will be always present. For the reason that we spoke at the beginning, I mean, that it is a crisis with roots in the Second Vatican Council.
00:18:22.240And before this, before this, in the modernism of the beginning of the 20th century. So, I think that it is not really so important to think that eliminating Pope Francis
00:18:43.240Pope Francis all will be in a good way.
00:18:50.240So, what, in terms of getting back to order, because I presume that we are headed back to order.
00:19:00.240Our Lady, it says in Fatima we learned that in the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph, so we are expecting that triumph.
00:19:08.240What do you see as even some steps along that road to eventual restoration?
00:19:14.240I think that if it is true that the value of a man depends on his idea, our idea has to be the greater possible.
00:19:39.240And so, our goal has to be the restoration of the Christian order in his total integrity, without exceptions and without compromise.
00:19:58.240The Catholic civilization is more perfect than in the Middle Ages.
00:20:05.240Of course, this seems very far from the current situation.
00:20:13.240But, I quote often an example in the moment more difficult, perhaps one of the more difficult moments in the history of the Church.
00:20:26.240The persecution of Dioclesian at the beginning of the 4th century, when all seemed to be lost, because Christians were persecuted, killed,
00:20:42.240jailed, there was really total darkness.
00:20:48.240Who could imagine at that time that only five, six, seven years after, with the Emperor Constantine, with the victory of the Milvian Bridge, Saxarubra, the history had a complete change.
00:21:11.240And the Constantinian era opened a new period in history with the beginning of the Christianity.
00:21:26.240So, I think that towards the future, we have to be very confident and to trust not in our forces, but in our weakness and in the force of God, who can change very rapidly, in a very rapid way, all the situation.
00:21:55.240The deepness of the crisis is, for me, an element of hope, because the situation is so terrible that the moment of a restoration of the Renaissance of the Church cannot be so far.