Exclusive： 'Catholic' School To Punish 16-year-old Boy Wanting Girl-only Bathrooms
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Josh Alexander, the 16-year-old who went to bat for girls in his Catholic high school not to have biological males in their bathroom. Well, the story has new developments to it and now he and his lawyer are now going to the courts to fight this out.
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I myself am not Catholic but very similar belief system and I'm kind of shocked at how little
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response there has been from the church. I even phoned one of the local churches the other day
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and the pastor just told me he didn't want to speak to me. If I was a member of the Catholic
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Church I'd be completely embarrassed by the actions of the school now that they're claiming
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they're Catholic. It's kind of disappointing to see the lack of response from the local Catholic
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church. We've also got a life funder we call it. It's like a GoFundMe for Josh and for his case.
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What's going on now from a legal perspective? Well we are attempting to appeal the two suspensions
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Josh has received. Hello everyone do you remember that heroic young man by the name of Josh Alexander?
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He's the one the 16 year old who went to bat for girls in his Catholic high school not to have
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biological males in their bathroom. Well the story has new developments to it. He and his lawyer are
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now going to be going to the courts to fight this out because the school has actually believe it or
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not given him a trespass notification. So he's going to be arrested for trespassing next time he comes in
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this to go to his high school. He was suspended they lifted the suspension and lo and behold he went in
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but no because he still doesn't agree to what I guess it is they want. He has continued his suspension
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and now lawyers are getting involved. We're going to give you a chance to contribute to his efforts in
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court with a life funder but I wanted to tell you some new developments. First of all I had an
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opportunity to speak with one of the young ladies who confided in him. What are the reasons why he went
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forward in the first place? Because this is very you know who is this guy? Well we were able to meet
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with him in person so we know who this guy is. We had his testimony. We had him on a show before
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but we weren't before able to speak to the young women who were suffering under what the school is
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going through. So I wanted to read you from an interview that I had with her. Now she has to remain
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anonymous. She wouldn't come on camera because obviously fear of massive reprisal. Look what's
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happened to Josh Alexander. The poor boy has been suspended from school with threat of expulsion
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and now he's been given a trespass notice for coming to school. We're going to hear from him
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here in studio in just a few minutes. We're going to hear from his lawyer as well but I wanted to tell
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you what this young lady had to say. She spoke with me from her school and has explained what went on.
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Here's what she said. She had this conversation. So if you remember Josh told me that when he went
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to the principal first to say hey you know I was approached by some of my classmates who are
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uncomfortable with this idea that men are in there or young men are in their bathrooms and the principal
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said first well no no no you got to get the girls to come in and tell us that. So he did. He got one of
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these young ladies to come forward and go with him and the principal still did nothing and that's when
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Josh Alexander said okay we're going to stage a walkout and protest this because this is ridiculous.
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So here's how the story went from the side of the one of the young ladies that did speak with him.
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She said I just told him this is her words. I just told him in passing conversation about this issue
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that I was weirded out by it because it is males in my bathroom and I didn't know who else I could
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talk to about it other than a few of my female friends. But then get this and this is mind-blowing.
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This is what she told me about what went on inside the classroom because remember when Josh announced
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that he was going to do a walkout for this the school threatened that any student who would join
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Josh Alexander in protesting so that the girls in school can have their own bathroom privacy that
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males wouldn't enter their bathroom. Anybody who would protest this with Josh Alexander they would be
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cut off from transportation to the school. Now remember this is Renfrew County. It's the Catholic
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school there called St. Joseph's believe it or not in Renfrew and they are cutting off people from
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getting there with transportation, busing. That's massive in these rural communities because sometimes
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they're 20, 30, 40, 50 kilometers away. So to cut off transportation is basically to cut them off
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from the school altogether. So listen to this. They were threatened with being denied transportation to
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the school. But in addition this young lady told me that a teacher in the classroom told them this.
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This is a teacher speaking to the students about not participating in Josh Alexander's walkout
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for privacy in girls' bathrooms for speaking up for these young ladies. The teacher tells him and I
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quote, your reputations will be ruined. You don't want to associate with those people. So I mean this is
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crazy indoctrination going on right in a supposedly Catholic school. In fact, the young lady told me
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that, you know, about the school supposed to be Catholic. She said, well, the teaching of the church
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doesn't seem to align with what the school is doing. And when I asked, you know, the young lady about what
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her message would be to young people in high schools who find themselves in similar situations where they're put
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under all this pressure and their own privacies are being violated and everything else by the woke
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agenda, here's what she said. She said, it's important to not feel like you don't have a voice
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or your opinion doesn't matter or that you're a horrible person if you think differently from everyone else.
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You know, this is really reminiscent of what happened to Pope Benedict. Pope Benedict of late
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memory, who we're still, you know, in the days after his funeral was still praying for the repose
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of his soul. He had a lot of hardship in dealing with this issue as well. He tried his hardest to
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bring forward the teaching of the church with love and with truth. And here's what happened to him.
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He was on December 22nd, 2008, and he gave an address to the Roman Curia. He capitalized actually
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on the popular ecology trend, calling for a human ecology, where we would respect the creator's
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natural order of relationships between men and women. The Holy Father said the church must protect
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man from self-destruction, he said. And these are quotes from Pope Benedict XVI, again, back in 2008,
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right around Christmas time. He said, if the church speaks of the nature of the human being as man and
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woman and demands that this order of creation be respected, this is not some antiquated metaphysics.
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What is involved here is faith in the creator and a readiness to listen to the language of creation.
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To disregard this, he said, would be the self-destruction of man himself, and hence the destruction of God's
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own work. Now, obviously the Pope didn't say this kind of thing to be, you know, because he had some
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kind of vedeta against gays or whatever, or trans people. No. He also didn't say this because he was
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sadistic and wanted, or masochistic and wanted harm to himself. But sure enough, harm comes from the
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woke world when you speak the truths of Christ. And he was preaching this, though, with love, the truth in
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only love for God, but it was also love for all of mankind, his human beings, his fellow human beings, who are
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hurting themselves by these destructive sexual lifestyles. But for his remarks, he was castigated in the
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mainstream press. And here are some of the news headlines at the time from 2008 against Pope
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Benedict for saying what he did about God's plans for human sexuality. Pink News, a homosexual news
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service, said in the UK, it read, this was their headline, Pope Benedict learned nothing from his
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time in the Hitler Youth. And Pope Benedict's latest outburst justifies homophobic bullying and attacks.
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Absolute insanity. But the coverage in the mainstream press was hardly, you know, less extreme. The San
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Francisco Chronicle headline read, Pope Benedict did Christmas, preaching bigotry disguised as
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compassion. The Times of London said, Christmas was never meant to be about this. So this kind of
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persecution from the woke world comes despite our trying to do the best we can for God's truth in
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to the program. Josh, thank you so much for joining us in person. Thank you for having me. You're
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actually one of the first guests here in our studio, so welcome. And I want to tell you on behalf of all
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of our fans at Life State News, thank you. You have done an incredible thing here. And you're standing
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up for family. And more important than that, actually, you're standing up for faith. And I
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think that's the most beautiful thing. I want you to take us through the human element. So you get
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there. First of all, you hear this on Sunday night, and then you get there on Monday. How did things
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progress? I decided to only show up for the afternoon. Those were the two classes I was banned from.
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So I showed up in the afternoon. I went into the school. And right at the front door, the principal
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met me. And he was kind of awkward. He didn't say anything for the first few minutes. I just was
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greeting students. Students were shaking my hand, and it was a bit of a welcome back. He didn't say
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anything for the first couple of minutes until he finally kind of confused. He walked over and said,
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could you leave? And I told him, I just respectfully asked him to speak to my lawyer if he wanted to
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talk to me first. And that's kind of what would happen all day long. They just kept asking me to
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leave. I'd go to my class, and they'd follow me. And the vice principal would actually write down
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anything I said. And yeah, that's the entire day was spent like that. And they had just asked me to
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leave the entire day. I just kept going to class. Wow, wow. So what's your thought at this point? I
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mean, you've been accused of trespassing. What in the world does that mean? And what did your
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lawyers make even talk about with you on it? About a couple hours after I got home from school,
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my parents got this email that I now have a trespassing notice until January 31st at the
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school. I think it's pretty ridiculous, but it goes to show there are true colors there. They're
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afraid of the truth, so now they'll actually, I guess, arrest me if I return to school. And it's
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pretty sad to think that that's what's happening in Canada, which is supposed to be a country that
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respects the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but apparently not in this case. You have a
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trespassing notice and till January 31st, but they've told you to stay away and yet you have
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classes and then you're not coming to class. Are they calling you to say, hey, you're not in your
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class as well? No, they haven't actually done that. I've had, there's been a couple emails from my
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teachers and they've offered online education, but I mean, I think the last two years have gone to show
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that that's a very inferior form of education, so I haven't taken them up on that. But we're coming to
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the end of the semester now. They've suspended me twice. They've excluded me and now given me a
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trespassing notice till January 31st. The semester's over by that time. And so it's a five-day
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suspension I'm surfing right now, but the trespassing notice goes way beyond that. I'm not sure how that's
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supposed to work, but we'll see. We at LifeSite want to support your case. I understand from your
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lawyer that the next step will be for you to take this to the Human Rights Tribunal. And so we're going
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to set up a LifeFunder for you. And I encourage people to support Josh because I mean, here's one
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of the few examples of people actually standing up and doing the right thing. And we want to be able
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to support him in that. So please go to LifeFunder.com and support Josh Alexander. So Josh, what are the
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plans for your taking this up at the Human Rights Tribunal? We're looking at it obviously as a case
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for religious discrimination. There seems to be a little bit of confusion over my appeal. They don't
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really want to let me appeal. So yeah, we're going to take it up to the next notch because that's kind
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of where this kind of case belongs. It's a classic case of religious discrimination. So I'm willing to
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take it there and we can only rely on the supporters to donate. And it's going to be a difficult run
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considering we're up against a pretty big law firm and the entire school board, but we're taking it
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on anyways. You're a young man. How old are you right now? 16. Okay, so you're still 16 years old.
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It's incredible that you have to face this for one thing, but you're doing it with real grace.
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There's a pro-trans whatever group that was confronting you. They called you a terrorist.
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What's your response to that? Actually, I put out a response on social media right on their platform
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and they immediately deleted it. They were insinuating that I had plans to act violently
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and I obviously countered that and told them I was there for peace. I was up for a respectful
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discussion. And yeah, that was completely censored. I actually did a live stream with Freedom Fighters
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Canada that was deleted off Facebook immediately. And yeah, so it's been any time I go to counter
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anything, they kind of just censor it. So that's where we're at.
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Delete it. I think there's a beauty in that. The fact is you're threatening to them, not in that
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you're physically threatening to people or anything like that. You're threatening to their ideology.
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It is an ideology. And they don't want to show that you are a young man who's totally peaceful
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and totally sensible. And you're like their worst case scenario because here you are all about peace,
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love and dialogue, which they claim to have on their side. And yet they're all about censorship,
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accusing you of falsehood and banning you from everything. And then, but they have the support
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of this Catholic school, which is completely outrageous.
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It's interesting. Way back in November at the original walkout, the counter protesters from
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those pride organizations and even the union that got bussed up, they were chanting love, not hate.
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So I had the mic there and we had our whole sound system set up and we just started chanting it back
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at them. And they completely like ruffled feathers. They didn't know what to do.
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And so like they tried censoring me online. So then I did it in person and they just panicked.
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Yeah. Well, it's great. It is true. The message of those supportive of the family and of the faith
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and of freedom. That's our message. Love, not hate. And so we can chant it right back because that was
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the whole point from the beginning. When the confrontations happened in the beginning, I
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don't remember, but in historically we had focus on the family, uh, had a conference called love
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wins out. And, and it's about true love for people with same sex attraction and people with gender
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dysphoria or whatever you want to call it. It's about loving them enough to tell them that this is
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harmful for you and showing the exact, the examples being this right now, countless men and women
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who have de-transitioned and been so harmed by what has happened to them. And we can show the
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folks, Hey, this is what happens to you. And you don't say that to be popular. You don't say that to
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be, um, um, given kudos because you're not, you're given, you're accused of being terrorist. Um, you're
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expelled and all sorts of things, but you do it anyway, out of love and concern for these people,
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because it's true. It's about love and not hate about your Christian convictions. Because, uh, I, I
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mean, it's one thing that for Catholics like myself is very shameful. The true message of the church has
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always been one from where you're coming from. And yet you are voicing this as a 16 year old,
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much more eloquently in your behavior than the whole leadership of this so-called Catholic school.
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And what's truly scandalous, the school is called St. Joseph's. It's in Renfrew and it is
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the Renfrew district, uh, Catholic district school board. And the crime is, it's St. Joseph's high
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school. St. Joseph is head of the Holy Family, uh, that everybody knows, but in the, in the Catholic
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church, he's regarded as the defender of virgins of purity, um, and protector of the family. It's like
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a nightmare that this is happening. It's the opposite of the truth and opposite of everything that the
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Catholic church stands for. But I'd like to hear it from you. Um, you, how do your Christian
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convictions play into this? Well, as a Christian and just as a man in general, I feel a responsibility
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to stand up to this kind of nonsense, especially when a female, a young female addresses me about
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this and more than one. So I, I immediately felt a conviction to do something about that. So I did.
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But, uh, looking at the Catholic church, I, I myself am not Catholic, but very similar belief
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system. And, uh, I'm kind of shocked at how little response there has been from the church.
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I even phoned one, uh, one of the local churches the other day and they, uh, like the pastor
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just told me he didn't want to speak to me. I, I couldn't imagine a leader of a church telling
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a 16 year old kid that he wouldn't speak with them, wouldn't even begin to have a discussion.
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If I was a member of the Catholic church, I'd be completely embarrassed by the actions of
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the school now that they're claiming they're Catholic. And, uh, it's, it's kind of disappointing
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to see the lack of response from the local Catholic church.
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That is unfortunately the, the times we're living in, but there are a lot of, uh, Catholics
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supporting you and praying for you right now. Um, and I know at, uh, LifeSite News, we are
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behind you a hundred percent. We're going to do whatever we can to not only get your story
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out, to hopefully get you some funds to continue in your fight. And, um, what are your next steps?
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I know you've been doing a lot of speaking already, um, as part of your organization,
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save Canada. Tell us what that's about and tell us what your next plans are in terms of
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Oh, we've got a, there's kind of our rallying symbol that's been around for about two years
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now. Um, it started during the, uh, the COVID restrictions and all that. So yeah, we organized
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the student walk-outs during the Freedom Convoy and we were kind of known for that, but, uh,
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we're kind of just, just assembling people right now across the country. And it's been kind
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of a, uh, rallying point. It's a very simple organization, but, uh, we don't, we were kind
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of trying to formulate a plan from now. It's been kind of chaotic with everything that's going
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on. It's been a nonstop fight for the last two years, but, uh, we're, we're trying to formulate
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a little bit better and come forward with an action plan soon.
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I know you're in the thick of it right now, but there's got to be a lot of young people
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like yourself who are thinking, boy, I wish I could do something like that, or I wish I could,
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It's easy. Just go out and do it. And, uh, the consequences are more a compliment. Uh, just keep,
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keep pushing, keep fighting. Don't give up. Trust in God and, uh, you'll have your back.
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Amen to that. Josh Alexander, it is an honor to meet you. God bless you.
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James Kitchen. Welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. Let's begin as we always do with
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the sign of the cross in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy ghost. Amen.
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So we have this new breaking news and it's, it's very shocking for those people who
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value freedom and still value what is supposed to be Catholic education. But obviously this has been
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a travesty. We learned some time ago, had Josh on the program that, you know, he was threatened with,
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uh, all sorts of things. If he were to carry out this work for these young ladies in his class and
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in his school to defend their right to privacy in their own bathrooms. Um, the, the school then
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threatened anyone who would join in such protest with, um, suspension, expulsion, whatnot. He is
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now told by the school that he's trespassing when he goes back to school. If you could, James,
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give us the latest details. Over the Christmas break, just after Josh's 20 day suspension ended,
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he was given conditions on how he would return. And, um, the worst of those conditions was that he would
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be excluded from two of his classes. Now, the best that we could understand the reasoning behind this
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was that those two particular classes were going to have two transgender students in those classes
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that have been in Josh, Josh's other classes. And of course, the concern, I think from the school's
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perspective or the transgender students perspective is that they really didn't like what Josh had to say.
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They really didn't like the expression of his religious beliefs about, you know, switching genders
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or not about how there's only two genders and about how boys shouldn't be going into girls'
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bathrooms. And so, you know, under the guise of safety, the school said to him, look, you can't
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be in these classes. And so Josh, so Josh hired me as his lawyer with a Christmas break. We talked,
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I said, look, I think that's religious discrimination. I think it's unlawful. Um, he said, well, yeah,
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I don't want to comply with that. I don't want to comply with something. It's unlawful. So what
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happened is I told the school, I wrote a letter to the principal and I said, look, this, this is an
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unlawful condition. It's, it's exclusion and segregation. And it's on the basis of his religious
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beliefs, because the only reason you're doing this is because, um, his express religious beliefs are,
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you know, the, the, the students in the school can't tolerate those. And so they're, they're
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asking him to not be in that space. And that's just blatant religious discrimination. So it's
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unlawful. Why don't you rescind that condition? He'll come to class and go to all four of his classes
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and we'll try to sort this out. And the school's response was, was very dismissive and said, no,
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we don't care if you disagree with this. This is what we say. And, you know, you have to do it.
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And if you don't, that's, you know, too bad. And so I said, well, you know, he, Josh is just,
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it just isn't going to comply with an awful condition. So, uh, once I told the principal
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that he wrote back on Sunday night, the night before Josh was going to go back to school on
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January 8th, he said, well, look, now I'm going to order an exclusion, which, which is a technical
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term under the legislation that a principal can exclude a student from school. If they think that
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that student's presence will be some sort of threat or danger or, you know, potential disruption
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physically or mentally to the students. And which, which is really a bit of a stretch,
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obviously. So what happened then is Josh said, well, I mean, you know, look, this isn't awful.
00:23:53.440
I'm going to go to school anyways. So on Monday he did, he went to school, he went to those two
00:23:57.280
classes he was not supposed to go to. Um, he got followed around somewhat by the assistant
00:24:01.760
principal. You'll probably hear from him about that. And then he went home. Uh, everything was
00:24:06.140
peaceful, right? Um, of course he's not, he's not out to actually, you know, bully these,
00:24:11.660
these transgender students, right? There's no actual bullying going on, but of course,
00:24:14.940
that's the word being thrown around because unfortunately in our new world, uh, bullying
00:24:20.280
means expressing ideas that somebody else disagrees with. And, um, that's, that's how we get to
00:24:26.060
this strange situation. So he goes home Monday night, late Monday night, I get a trespass notice
00:24:31.220
and a further suspension, uh, saying that Josh is suspended from school for the rest of the week
00:24:35.740
and barred from school property for the rest of the month of January. So that's where we're at
00:24:40.020
right now. School board has hired lawyers, big firm in Ottawa. I am in communication
00:24:43.800
with them, um, written communication. And so I'm hopeful there'll be some oral communication
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between myself and counsel for the school board. And we'll see where this goes next.
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This is unbelievable. We know Josh to be someone who is not only peaceful, but he's coming at
00:25:00.200
this from a truly Christian charitable perspective. It said nothing to do with being anti-trans or anything
00:25:07.980
like that. It had to do with protecting these young ladies in his school who approached him
00:25:13.400
asking for help to get privacy back in their bathrooms. These are young ladies who were, didn't
00:25:19.500
want, uh, in their bathrooms, males, biological males in their bathrooms. And that should have
00:25:25.620
been a totally obvious thing. So here's this young man who first went to the principal privately
00:25:31.580
himself, like how biblical can you get? And the principal says, Oh, I'm not gonna listen to you
00:25:36.560
unless some of those girls come with you. He finds a girl to go with him to the principal,
00:25:41.680
goes to the principal and still do nothing. Then he says, okay, now I'm going to do a protest.
00:25:47.740
And then this enveloped. What's your thought on how that played out? And what's your perspective
00:25:55.400
I think he's a very courageous young man. Um, he's principled and he's, um, he's doing what
00:26:00.860
should be happening a whole lot more often, um, amongst, amongst men and women who are much older
00:26:05.220
than he is. Um, so it's a, it's a real honor to work with them and to see this. Um, you know,
00:26:10.160
I think part of the problem with all this is, is it, is it is really difficult as a high school
00:26:13.300
student to stand up, particularly a young, a young woman, um, to speak out and stand up and say,
00:26:17.860
this is wrong. It's got to stop. We just keep going down this slippery slope towards things that
00:26:22.820
are, you know, that are not Christian and not morally right and not good for society and not good
00:26:26.860
for me and my friends. We're trying to be safe and private in our spaces. Uh, it's not good for
00:26:31.160
the, for the, for the kids themselves who are living in this weird space. I mean, talk to anybody
00:26:34.800
who's detransitioned. Um, it's, it's a really awful experience. I mean, I've, I've, I've talked to and
00:26:40.020
represented somebody who's gone through that. Um, it's horrendous. I think what he's doing is,
00:26:44.260
is really, is really good. It needs to be done. Um, but obviously in the world we live in,
00:26:48.360
it's very, very, you know, you go through a lot of sacrifice and hardship in order to do it because
00:26:52.340
the powers that be want to censor you and want to punish you for doing it because they don't want
00:26:56.160
you to speak up, right? We don't, they don't want these perspectives shared, but yeah, I think what
00:27:00.360
the school is doing is, is really unfortunate. It's interesting because it's in the name of
00:27:04.740
discrimination. It's in the name of non-discrimination and we're getting discrimination. It's in the name
00:27:08.880
of tolerance and diversity and equity that we're treating somebody as a second-class citizen. We're
00:27:13.380
excluding them, right? We're censoring them. We're telling them that they're not acceptable because
00:27:17.680
of their views and beliefs. And, um, if we could just be a little more sensible and, and, and,
00:27:23.800
and stop thinking in this, in this crazy woke way, maybe we could find a balance where we
00:27:28.560
could actually somehow accommodate both. I mean, that is the idea behind the legislation
00:27:32.840
and that's, that's behind all this is the Ontario Human Rights Code, right? The school
00:27:35.840
says we have to have boys and girls Washington's the Ontario Human Rights Code. I don't actually
00:27:40.680
think that's true, but, um, you know, let's, let's back that up and sort out how the Ontario
00:27:46.520
Human Rights Code actually protects religious beliefs and sex as, as a, as a girl as well.
00:27:50.920
And if you're not trying to prioritize one right over the other, then you can probably
00:27:55.120
find a way to accommodate everybody, right? I mean, nobody's saying trans kids can't go
00:27:59.220
to the school. At least I don't think they are. They're just saying, look, if you're here
00:28:02.320
and you have a penis, you can't go into the girls Washington. And if you're here, um, you're
00:28:06.500
going to hear religious beliefs that say, um, things you don't like, and you're going to
00:28:10.300
have to be okay and put up with that. That's actual equality. That's actually giving everybody
00:28:15.260
the right to be in a space and to protect themselves, you know, and to express their beliefs
00:28:20.380
within reason, right? We're going too far on one side saying as a boy, you can go into
00:28:25.240
a girls Washington if you want to and saying to somebody else, and if you don't like that,
00:28:31.340
What's truly phenomenal is that this is in a school that calls itself Catholic. But before
00:28:38.260
we go there, it's truly Orwellian. As you said, the inequality is just so blatant that
00:28:46.620
the double standard is just unreal. But in addition to that, you have this situation where
00:28:52.800
we are dealing with adults. It's the adults in the room who are really guilty here. This
00:29:03.140
child who is, uh, you know, gender confused is being pushed to adopt a lifestyle that's
00:29:13.360
very harmful and God forbid a surgery that's going to harm him or her for the rest of his
00:29:19.680
life. And it's the adults who are truly responsible here. A lot of the adults in the room can see
00:29:27.620
how damaging this is. They've seen those who've detransitioned, they've seen the harm that's
00:29:34.380
already caused, and they know the harm that's happening against these young ladies in wanting
00:29:41.840
their privacy and it being stripped from them. How disgusting, how deplorable. It really does
00:29:47.580
baffle the imagination. I'd love to hear your take.
00:29:49.760
It hits the nail on the head is you have all these adults with their political ideologies and
00:29:54.380
their political agendas. And they seem all too willing to not protect more vulnerable,
00:30:00.220
younger people in society as they, as they push that. Um, I think we saw that with, with, uh, the,
00:30:05.680
the, the, the masks in school issue, um, a couple years ago. Right. And, and a lot of people comment on
00:30:11.080
the fact, this is the teachers, um, that mostly want this, or this is some of the woke parents.
00:30:15.080
What about the poor kids that got to wear this thing all day in school? Um, that's a little more
00:30:18.880
trivial. This is a little more serious, right? It's, it's these, these, these adults who have this idea
00:30:23.240
about transgenderism and they, they tacitly encourage it amongst kids, which is, which is
00:30:28.340
psychologically harmful for the kids that are going through it. And then it, and then it's harmful
00:30:31.400
for the girls who have to deal with it. I mean, we're, we're talking about the bathrooms and this
00:30:35.080
has been a huge problem in sports, right? I mean, that just makes me, it makes me sick that girls
00:30:40.000
have to be scared to go to the bathroom and they can't even enjoy joining sports now because they're
00:30:44.180
scared of getting hurt or they're just, they're not going to be competitive. And, um, it's, it's really,
00:30:49.060
it's, it's, it's awful if you care about women, um, as, as, as anybody should, but it's also just
00:30:55.200
so strange because it used to be that our society cared a lot about women and talked about how bad
00:31:00.060
our society was of caring for women, uh, patriarchal, whatever you go back 10, 15 years into the,
00:31:05.180
into the era where feminism was bigger than transgenderism. And, you know, this type of thing
00:31:09.640
would have been unthinkable, right? To treat women this way. And now all of a sudden we've moved on to
00:31:13.600
the next weird woke thing and we're throwing girls and women under the bus. And when, when an actual
00:31:18.600
feminist comes out and says, this isn't okay, uh, we start throwing the feminists under the bus,
00:31:22.800
or at least that's what the woke left does. They eat their own. It's just really bizarre. I mean,
00:31:27.400
let's, let's, let's just, let's just narrow it down and talk about, Hey, what about actually
00:31:31.880
treating women well, which is supposedly a really big deal, because if we actually believed that
00:31:37.000
we wouldn't let people with penises go into change rooms, uh, uh, bathrooms. And we, and we
00:31:43.220
wouldn't, we wouldn't let men who are, uh, undeniably, uh, physically more fit go into
00:31:48.520
women's sports and either hurt them or make them uncompetitive. That's just treating women very,
00:31:53.020
very badly. Why are we doing that? But even more bizarre than that, and I, I hate to say this,
00:31:58.800
but it's, it's the worst thing of all is that this is supposed to be a Catholic school. Now you
00:32:04.500
yourself are a Protestant, you're a member of the Liberty Coalition Canada, but you're faithful
00:32:10.680
Christian. And you know, as I do, that the teachings of all Christianity, Catholicism included,
00:32:18.480
have always been and can't change from being respectful of God's order of creation. He created
00:32:27.700
them male and female. We have no right to undo that. Um, he set up the order of marriage for one
00:32:37.420
man and one woman. He designed our sexuality to be lived out, not to harm us, but to help us to
00:32:46.200
fulfill our lives. And yet we're going against his plan for that. And here we are with this young man
00:32:54.080
who himself also a Christian, but not a Catholic, but in a Catholic school, figuring, I guess there
00:32:58.820
would be some more respect for God's order of creation. They're faced with torture from, you
00:33:05.760
know, this, this kind of veritable torture from a so-called Catholic principle in a Catholic school.
00:33:11.440
It is unbelievable. And the number of Catholics who are outraged at this is, is really quite something
00:33:18.720
we we've had many, many calls into the school already. I'm sure those are going to continue.
00:33:23.320
We've also got a fundraiser set up for him, a life funder, we call it. It's like a GoFundMe
00:33:29.980
for Josh and for his case. What's going on now from a legal perspective?
00:33:37.180
Well, we are attempting to appeal the two suspensions Josh has received. And the plan from,
00:33:43.780
in addition to that, the plan on our end is if this continues, if Josh isn't permitted to actually go
00:33:48.620
back to school, to all of his classes, um, there's going to have to be human rights complaint
00:33:53.120
because, um, you know, legally I think, I think the biggest thing that's going on here is, is the
00:33:57.800
blatant religious discrimination. And I think that needs to be exposed. You know, there's this double
00:34:02.600
standard, um, this protection of some rights, but trampling of others, it needs to be exposed.
00:34:08.200
Um, that's what this is all about. Obviously he does have a right to some degree of free speech.
00:34:13.080
Like most of what he said has been on social media and class debates. And if you want to talk about
00:34:17.180
students having, having, having free speech, those would be like the two central places they would
00:34:20.960
have it. Right. There is some limitation. Obviously students can't just constantly be outside with a
00:34:25.580
bullhorn, you know, otherwise it disrupts school. But if there's a class debate on these issues, as
00:34:30.300
there's going to be, there probably shouldn't be this hot topic issues, you need to let every student
00:34:34.820
express their, their belief. If it's peaceful, right. I don't care how, how offensive somebody
00:34:39.040
else finds it. Right. I mean, are you going to, are you going to take somebody who doesn't believe
00:34:42.480
in God at the Catholic school at that time? He says, I don't believe in God anymore. Are you
00:34:46.440
going to, are you going to shut him up and censor him? Are you going to let him speak his beliefs
00:34:49.720
in a class debate? That's where this came from, right? They didn't like what Josh had to say
00:34:54.120
on, on, on this peaceful protest he had that was, that was not disrupting school. Uh, and they didn't
00:34:59.300
like what he said in, in, in the social media, didn't like what he said in class debates, but he has a
00:35:03.140
right as a student, a free speech, right. But more importantly, a religious right as a religious
00:35:07.760
person expressing religious beliefs, uh, to say that. And, uh, if you're going to punish him,
00:35:12.760
it's just, it's discrimination and amongst other things. So, uh, if that continues, that's the plan
00:35:17.800
legally is to bring the human rights complaint. We'll see, this is going to largely depend on how
00:35:21.400
the, how the school reacts. I mean, if they just double down and say, we don't care where this is,
00:35:25.420
this is the path we've chosen, then, you know, we have to take legal action. If we can sort
00:35:29.380
something out, Josh can go back to school, then maybe we, you know, we do that and we just appeal
00:35:33.980
the suspensions. It really just depends on how the school wants to, the school board wants to
00:35:38.980
continue to respond. Amazing, James. Well, I want to thank you and Liberty Coalition Canada for taking
00:35:44.100
on this case. I'd really like to see other people follow, uh, in Josh's footsteps and, and, uh,
00:35:49.780
respectfully, but boldly speak up, uh, whether it's your workplace, your church, your school,
00:35:54.840
your circle of influence. Um, if you actually believe this is wrong, I mean, now is your time
00:35:59.620
to stand up. If Josh can do it, uh, you can do it and it needs to be done because as long as you
00:36:04.140
self-censor, we're just going to keep sliding down that path where censorship is more common
00:36:09.760
and more easy to achieve. And eventually it'll come a day when you won't even be able to speak
00:36:13.920
up, even if you decided you wanted to, because you would now have the courage. Um, so do it now
00:36:18.120
while you still can. Amen to that. James Kitchen of Liberty Coalition Canada. Thanks for being with us.
00:36:24.840
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