The John-Henry Westen Show - May 23, 2023


EXCLUSIVE: Presidential Candidate Dr. Taylor Marshall


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Taylor Marshall has been a stalwart in defending the faith and teaching the faith for a long time, and now he s running for President of the United States of America. What in the world is that about? Stay tuned to this episode to find out!

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00:00:00.000 It's perfectly okay when someone says, why is marriage between a man and a woman? 1.00
00:00:05.180 It's perfectly acceptable to say, because God said so, and that's how we instituted it.
00:00:11.900 For some reason, we're afraid to say that. And yet, all the LGBT advocacy groups,
00:00:17.640 they'll cite all their authorities, their sociologists, their scientists, their biologists,
00:00:22.360 all these authorities to us, and we'll take it.
00:00:30.000 Hello, my friends. I am very pleased to introduce you to someone you know very well.
00:00:37.640 In fact, he's been on the show before. I've been on his show.
00:00:41.000 There's a new thing going on in his life, though.
00:00:43.260 He's running for president of the United States of America.
00:00:46.660 And now you know who I'm talking about.
00:00:48.420 We have Dr. Taylor Marshall with us.
00:00:51.440 And someone I'm proud to call a friend who has been a stalwart in terms of
00:00:56.840 not only defending the faith, but teaching the faith.
00:01:01.060 It's really raw elements for a long, long time.
00:01:04.300 And then got into this, you know, presentations on YouTube where really he's evangelizing.
00:01:11.060 Speaking into this culture of grave confusion,
00:01:15.440 one of the lights that the Lord has provided to many, many Catholics, and non-Catholics as well,
00:01:21.860 to explain the faith in great detail, in great fidelity, with great love.
00:01:27.420 And that's why it's so convincing.
00:01:29.160 He's now running for president of the United States.
00:01:32.520 We're going to find out all about that.
00:01:34.620 What in the world is that about?
00:01:36.620 Stay tuned to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show with Dr. Taylor Marshall.
00:01:40.960 Hello, friends.
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00:02:27.920 Taylor, so good to be with you.
00:02:29.660 Good to be here, John Henry.
00:02:32.460 Let's begin as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:02:34.980 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost,
00:02:39.800 Amen.
00:02:42.360 So, Taylor, you are doing something incredible, shocking.
00:02:48.400 I kid you not, when we saw your tweet, we had a reporter scroll out right away and ask,
00:02:53.580 is that for real?
00:02:54.320 Is that for real?
00:02:55.740 Well, you know, I've been somewhat politically involved before,
00:03:00.180 and I kind of started to sense that a lot of the momentum in conservative political circles
00:03:07.360 is kind of being lost.
00:03:08.700 And there's a lot of voices who are sort of given up on basic conservative principles,
00:03:15.040 like what is the definition of marriage, matrimony?
00:03:17.840 What is the definition of human life?
00:03:20.180 And we just had a huge win after the reversal of Roe v. Wade.
00:03:23.660 I know that's a, you know, LifeSite News played a big part in that through the years.
00:03:28.060 And it kind of feels like in Republican conservative circles,
00:03:31.780 we've kind of moved on and patted ourselves on the back.
00:03:35.040 And if you look at our opposition, they are constantly using momentum to take more ground,
00:03:43.500 to take up more public space.
00:03:44.860 You see this every single June.
00:03:46.600 You see this year round in the secular, humanist, leftist, Marxist, socialist agenda.
00:03:54.100 We seem to not be doing a very good job at that.
00:03:57.640 And so I thought, you know, if we could galvanize, if we could unite people around
00:04:04.480 what is the definition of matrimony, what is the definition of human life,
00:04:09.560 those issues are not lost.
00:04:11.740 Those issues, those questions, those definitions resonate with a strong,
00:04:17.700 maybe decreasing, but a majority of voters and of families and churches and states.
00:04:27.920 And so I'm running for president because I want to shift the Overton window.
00:04:33.760 We might be able to talk about what the Overton window means in politics.
00:04:37.140 Briefly, it just means the window, the small area of what is politically, socially acceptable
00:04:44.860 to talk about.
00:04:45.800 It's kind of like the window of political correctness.
00:04:48.860 And I don't think that we should allow ourselves for the Overton window to continue to slide
00:04:53.720 further and further away from us.
00:04:55.580 I think we should activate prayerfully as Christians, vocally being Christians,
00:05:01.900 and that we should not only ask, but that we should demand for recognition for who we are
00:05:10.480 in the political sphere.
00:05:11.440 And no longer agree to the idea of this idea of separation of church and state.
00:05:16.520 John Henry was like, I'm a member of the state as a citizen.
00:05:19.960 I'm a member of the church as a Catholic.
00:05:22.660 How can I separate that in myself?
00:05:26.280 Think about that.
00:05:27.660 How can I say, I am in the church?
00:05:31.580 I am in the state.
00:05:32.820 Those two realities can't be separated within me.
00:05:36.240 So I need to carry Christ in my heart and in my voice into the public square, onto the
00:05:43.080 debate stage.
00:05:44.480 It's perfectly okay when someone says, why is marriage between a man and a woman? 1.00
00:05:49.780 It's perfectly acceptable to say, because God said so.
00:05:54.560 And that's how he instituted it.
00:05:56.000 For some reason, we're afraid to say that.
00:05:59.220 And yet, all the LGBT advocacy groups, they'll cite all their authorities, their sociologists,
00:06:05.100 their scientists, their biologists, all these authorities to us, and we'll take it.
00:06:10.220 We should be able to cite the Lord of the universe, Jesus Christ, risen on the third day,
00:06:15.420 second person in the Trinity.
00:06:16.240 Why is it that we feel ashamed or unqualified to bring that worldview, which is the proper
00:06:23.980 worldview, into public discourse?
00:06:27.440 And so that's why I'm running for presidency.
00:06:29.380 I want to shift the Overton window, and I want people to be unashamed and unafraid to
00:06:36.280 be as bold as a lion when it comes to the very, I mean, we're not talking about advanced
00:06:43.520 Catholic theology here.
00:06:45.000 We're talking about the very basics of natural law.
00:06:50.160 Amazing.
00:06:50.900 Let's be bold.
00:06:52.200 You're such a, you're a scripture scholar as well.
00:06:55.020 And as you're speaking, all, flashing to mind with all these scripture quotes, our Lord
00:06:59.180 said, if you're going to be ashamed of me before man, I will be ashamed of you before
00:07:02.620 my father.
00:07:03.440 And we're in the octave still when this is airing of the ascension.
00:07:09.300 And at the ascension, our Lord tells the disciples, go and teach all nations, baptizing
00:07:14.760 them in the name of the fathers and the Holy Spirit.
00:07:16.800 But you're talking about teaching them his ways.
00:07:20.460 And he tells them if they believe and are baptized, they'll be saved.
00:07:25.060 If they don't believe, they'll be condemned.
00:07:27.220 What are we doing?
00:07:27.980 How can we not do this?
00:07:29.400 How can we not bring Christ into the culture, into the world?
00:07:33.760 Um, you mentioned there, your political involvement.
00:07:39.100 I don't know that lots of people know about that.
00:07:41.980 What's your political involvement?
00:07:44.740 It's, I mean, I've, I've never run for office before.
00:07:47.540 Um, my political involvement, uh, most recently was that I served officially on the Trump campaign
00:07:53.900 for Catholics for Trump.
00:07:55.140 And I think one of the things that president Trump did well is, is he, he looked at the
00:08:02.840 Catholic vote, which is big.
00:08:04.160 I think 17% of registered voters are Catholic.
00:08:07.460 So it's a, it's a pretty big demographic when you're looking at American voters and it's
00:08:12.840 perhaps the most volatile when it comes to swing voters, because Catholics, um, especially 0.99
00:08:22.520 recently have not really come down on one side of the democratic or Republican divide.
00:08:28.380 And I honestly believe one of the reasons why the Democrats chose Joe Biden is because
00:08:33.580 he has the Catholic credential and they know that the Catholic vote is a major swing vote.
00:08:38.720 Those 17%, if you can get that 17% to swing your way, I want Catholics to realize how powerful 0.99
00:08:45.480 they are.
00:08:46.440 Like, do you realize that we are maybe the biggest swing demographic in the United States?
00:08:51.860 And if we galvanize and if we united and we demanded a moral Christian ethos that we
00:09:00.720 could, we could attain that, have we actually ever considered that we are that strong?
00:09:06.040 We are that sleeping giant.
00:09:07.500 And that's one of the things, you know, one of the reasons why I'm running is I w I want
00:09:11.180 people to wake up and to realize what is actually possible with our 17% of registered Catholic
00:09:18.240 voters.
00:09:19.660 So that's, that's really important as we move forward.
00:09:23.020 And, and so, as I, I was in Catholics for Trump, you know, I realized president Trump
00:09:28.060 and the kind of people that the campaign chose, you know, they didn't go to the USCCB.
00:09:34.200 They, they didn't go to, to what would be considered traditionally inclined Catholic universities
00:09:43.400 or academics, you know, they got people like Jesse Romero, you know, and I think your audience
00:09:49.100 all knows Jesse Romero or, you know, people like Abby Johnson and, and myself and sister
00:09:55.960 Didi.
00:09:56.480 And these are sort of, they are Orthodox Catholics.
00:10:02.240 They're well-known Catholics, but they're not company men or company women.
00:10:08.340 They're the kind of Catholics who have been openly questioning and critical of, you know,
00:10:15.240 the finances of the USCCB with the way that Cardinal McCarrick rose to power and how he remained
00:10:22.820 in power and how, you know, there wasn't too much of investigation around the whole McCarrick
00:10:29.540 scandal.
00:10:30.080 So I think president Trump understood that activated voting politically minded Catholics.
00:10:39.820 Sadly, I say this sadly, John, I'm not bragging about this.
00:10:43.220 I'm not boasting.
00:10:43.960 It breaks my heart.
00:10:45.200 Ideally, Catholics should be led by their shepherds who are leading everyone to Jesus Christ. 0.98
00:10:50.820 I think president Trump and his, his group of advisors realized that in our time, many
00:10:59.700 of the laity feel disenfranchised and abused by the bishops of this country.
00:11:06.300 And so he, he made a gamble in the last election and he did very well with Catholics.
00:11:13.420 Uh, I can't remember the exact number, but he did, he did very, very well, but even in,
00:11:18.580 in that process, John Henry, and, and I, I commend him for, for being part of the major
00:11:23.440 process that overturned Roe v.
00:11:24.920 Wade and I commend him for seeing something happening in Catholicism in America, uh, amongst 1.00
00:11:33.600 lay people and voices.
00:11:35.620 I still sense that when it comes to Republican platforms, all the way from the presidency down
00:11:42.820 to local office, I sense a, I mean, we saw it just this week if we want to get specific,
00:11:50.680 but I sense that there's this idea that if we're too pro-life or for true, true pro traditional
00:11:58.380 matrimony, we're going to lose. 1.00
00:12:00.120 We got to water things down.
00:12:01.780 We got to be a little bit more like the Democrats, a little bit more like Joe Biden, not totally
00:12:06.680 crazy like Nancy Pelosi, but we got to somehow move that way. 0.67
00:12:10.840 And then we're going to win all the offices and then America's going to get better. 0.90
00:12:13.820 And we're going to become more conservative of all that.
00:12:16.480 And if you watch my podcast, you know, that I don't agree with that.
00:12:21.040 And my concern is, is we as so-called conservatives, if that even means anything anymore, that we
00:12:28.100 have capitulated on the most fundamental ideas of political discourse.
00:12:34.300 For example, the family is the building block of the state, of community, of the nation that
00:12:44.820 goes back Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, certainly in the old Testament, certainly in the new
00:12:51.940 Testament, certainly in the Catholic tradition, abandoning that.
00:12:55.100 And then just, we talk about rights all the time and LifeSite News is great on this.
00:12:59.680 You can't have any of the rights, like the right to water, the right to housing, the right to
00:13:04.640 medical care, if you don't have the right to life.
00:13:08.300 John Henry, if you're dead, you don't need housing.
00:13:11.620 You know, you need life.
00:13:14.360 And so, you know, the LGBT community is so good at using crises and wins to propel themselves
00:13:23.100 into future wins for their cause.
00:13:25.340 And like, I think the Roe v. Wade overturn is a perfect example of a major win, like winning
00:13:31.540 the Superbowl and then putting the football down and not preparing for another season.
00:13:37.320 And almost like, well, we did that.
00:13:39.760 And then like, oh my, it's almost like some Republicans are saying, man, we almost went
00:13:43.460 too far.
00:13:45.020 You know, we're going to, we're too pro-life now, man, did we mess up by, by winning the
00:13:50.240 Superbowl.
00:13:50.760 And that right there, I think shows a insecurity in the conservative movement.
00:13:55.540 And it shows in a way on some issues of defeatism.
00:13:58.960 And so I believe, I really do believe John Henry, if we could galvanize on these basic
00:14:06.060 fundamental issues.
00:14:07.780 Again, I'm not saying open your page to Tertia Pars and the Summa Theologiae of Thomas Aquinas
00:14:13.440 and let's adopt this into law.
00:14:15.080 I'm talking about the very basics of human decency and honor culture, a culture that
00:14:22.420 puts family, number one, in the safe environment of children with, God willing, in an ideal
00:14:30.460 situation, a nuclear family with a mother and a father who love each other and society holding
00:14:37.480 them up and embracing them.
00:14:39.200 You look over at Hungary, what Victor Orban's doing with his family policy in America, we
00:14:46.140 need to be doing that.
00:14:47.540 It's not like it's a platonic form that's unreachable in Hungary.
00:14:51.620 They are implementing some beautiful policies to assist holy matrimony for families stay together
00:14:59.200 and also so that families grow.
00:15:02.080 And it affects the birth rate in a positive way, which affects the economy and just so
00:15:07.500 many good things are happening in a place like Hungary.
00:15:09.960 We could also make moral alliances with places like Poland.
00:15:13.940 You know, that's the idea is we could have moral alliances.
00:15:17.160 They don't have to be all about war.
00:15:18.800 We could have alliances with other countries that share our vision and are pushing for a
00:15:24.320 world that recognizes the logos, Jesus Christ.
00:15:28.220 So I hope in running for president to bring this kind of discourse to the debate stage.
00:15:36.780 And, uh, you know, if by a miracle of miracles and miracles, I even got on the stage, that
00:15:44.060 would be wonderful.
00:15:44.700 But if we could just get, I'm preparing 12 talking points, 12 bullet points.
00:15:50.040 If we could just get five of these 12 to be debated by leading candidates, um,
00:15:58.220 that'd be a major win.
00:15:59.100 The Overton window would begin to shift in our way.
00:16:02.940 Another way of, I've always thought of this.
00:16:05.200 They always talk about politics being the art of compromise.
00:16:08.360 And it's so funny because the left stays completely solid.
00:16:12.560 They demand the absolute extreme and they make up new extremes to go further.
00:16:18.760 They never are satisfied.
00:16:20.260 It's never like we want marriage. 0.75
00:16:21.840 Then it's the homosexual marriage. 0.99
00:16:23.740 Of course, um, we want, now we want that to be able to do with little kids.
00:16:28.500 So they're changing the law.
00:16:30.780 And then, oh no, now we want the little kids to be able to change into the opposite sex. 1.00
00:16:34.400 So we can do who knows what, I mean, you'd think it's insane, but they not only even never
00:16:39.580 rest, they keep going as bizarre as we might've thought it to be.
00:16:44.420 They just keep going anyway.
00:16:46.420 And so that when, and conservatives, they're always like, well, let's, let's give as much
00:16:53.860 as we can.
00:16:54.520 Let's move to their position as far as we can.
00:16:57.180 But if politics is your compromise, that compromise point always shifts further and further to the
00:17:03.720 left.
00:17:03.940 It's impossible.
00:17:04.900 And that's the same concept as your Overton window concept.
00:17:07.380 We, we have to stick to the absolute truth and not move from it because then that art
00:17:14.140 of compromise comes to the middle and the middle is at least not continuing to float over to
00:17:21.460 the left.
00:17:21.720 It's impossible.
00:17:23.620 So you get it, John Henry, you get it.
00:17:26.900 You have an amazing point there also about Hungary and moral alliances with other countries
00:17:34.100 because we've watched over the past number of years, certain countries, sometimes startlingly
00:17:40.260 do something that's very sane from a Catholic Christian worldview, from a moral worldview.
00:17:50.740 Tell us some things that other countries are doing that you'd like to see the U.S. adopt
00:17:55.320 so that people understand what you're proposing here isn't radical at all.
00:18:01.300 It's normal.
00:18:02.460 It's natural.
00:18:03.720 It's not common, but it is normal.
00:18:07.020 Sure.
00:18:07.580 I mean, I think a great example is Hungary.
00:18:11.620 You know, Pope Francis was just in Hungary.
00:18:13.780 He met with Victor Orban.
00:18:15.220 He had some, some good things to say.
00:18:17.060 And some of the things they're doing, I mean, I won't get too much into the particulars, but
00:18:21.340 you know, they have an allowance for couples when they get married.
00:18:26.320 I think the allowance lasts for 24 months after they are married.
00:18:32.100 They even give benefits, John Henry.
00:18:34.720 This is really, I think it's called the grandmother law.
00:18:36.900 I might have it wrong.
00:18:37.920 They actually give benefits to grandmothers who are helping and assisting with the raising
00:18:45.660 of children with the mother at home.
00:18:48.000 I mean, these are creative things, but they are actually doing these things to, to promote
00:18:53.440 and subsidize healthy families.
00:18:56.340 They have a housing benefit and it's based on whether you have one, two, three, or four
00:19:01.980 or more children.
00:19:04.960 That's, they have also a maternity benefit.
00:19:08.260 Get this.
00:19:08.720 If I have it correct, the maternity benefit is equal to 225% of the minimal pension at the
00:19:17.000 time of the birth of a child.
00:19:18.420 In the case of twins, it is 300% the pension.
00:19:23.540 So parents also receive extra paid vacations during the year.
00:19:29.140 And there's also reductions in taxes.
00:19:33.360 So all of these things, what they're saying as a society is they're saying we,
00:19:38.220 as a society value children.
00:19:42.020 We, as a society value families.
00:19:45.600 And so we are going to provide incentives to help what we value.
00:19:51.580 Our country values other things.
00:19:54.440 And so they'll place a certain flag on every embassy in the entire world or every state
00:20:00.960 monument.
00:20:01.660 And so they have those values.
00:20:03.300 And so they are in a way using money, law, time symbols to promote what, what this country
00:20:11.900 and those leaders, what they value.
00:20:14.160 Hungary is valuing something else.
00:20:15.820 And so I'm saying, why aren't we Christians demanding that we value children and we value
00:20:21.380 family?
00:20:21.800 And we do that by implementing policies.
00:20:28.180 Viktor Orban has done a great job.
00:20:29.600 And look, he's getting results.
00:20:31.440 It's actually working.
00:20:34.060 We should copy and paste what Hungary is doing, insert, paste it into the United States. 1.00
00:20:39.600 That's one of my, one of my points.
00:20:41.780 Yeah.
00:20:42.080 And it makes so much sense.
00:20:43.480 I mean, the valuing of children and of families and of healthy families makes sense from an
00:20:50.380 economic only, if you want to only look at that incentive for your country, because you're
00:20:54.780 getting your next generation, you're investing in your next generation, your future, rather
00:20:59.460 than relying on an influx of people who are going to come in from outside, not with your
00:21:06.280 values nor your work ethic.
00:21:07.860 And then they're all harboring to have other people in who might not be good for your economy
00:21:11.800 and whatnot.
00:21:12.140 So there's so many advantages to this, makes so much sense.
00:21:17.180 And that's why Hungary is being condemned, I guess, but it, it does. 1.00
00:21:21.000 We reported recently that Japan has banned pornography and you've got that in mind as well.
00:21:29.760 Tell us about that because there's so many sane places doing some sane things and it's
00:21:36.260 already out there.
00:21:37.100 Why can't we, as you said, bring it to America?
00:21:39.860 I mean, what, one of the things that I'm trying to do with this presidential campaign
00:21:43.820 is show that, you know, it may sound like I'm completely insane even mentioning these
00:21:49.400 things, but they're actually being done right now in 2023 in other countries.
00:21:53.520 So like, you'll say, we need to ban pornography and people say, that's impossible.
00:21:56.920 You can't do that.
00:21:58.180 You Christians.
00:21:59.080 Well, Japan's done it. 0.96
00:22:01.080 And we know for a fact that pornography is dangerous to men, to women, to children, to
00:22:07.760 marriages.
00:22:08.440 We could go on and on.
00:22:10.000 Lifesite News has all the data, all the stories, all the demographics.
00:22:13.720 And it's like saying, well, there is like sewage leaking into all these homes across
00:22:19.580 America.
00:22:20.160 Well, we can't do anything about that.
00:22:21.680 Yes, you can do something about it. 0.98
00:22:23.560 And pornography is that sewage. 0.95
00:22:26.100 I mean, there are certain things that you can and cannot say on the internet and on social
00:22:31.320 media platforms.
00:22:32.140 Would you agree, John Henry Weston, that they police you on social media platforms?
00:22:36.760 Having been canceled twice by YouTube.
00:22:37.800 If they're so good at policing all of that, why aren't they so good at policing child pornography
00:22:43.120 or hardcore pornography or any pornography?
00:22:47.420 Like, why is it that Japan can do it and we can't do it? 0.99
00:22:51.280 Or even some of these websites and applications that are so damaging to families and to children,
00:22:59.240 it is being done.
00:23:00.940 And that means it can be done.
00:23:02.920 Now, I can see here an objection from people, particularly as we were talking about Hungary
00:23:06.840 and the family-friendly values and policies.
00:23:10.440 John Henry, they're going to say to us, well, I don't have a family.
00:23:13.400 So why is the state privileging and giving tax credits and allowances to married people?
00:23:19.060 You know, that's not fair and on and on.
00:23:22.100 Well, we live in America.
00:23:23.120 And right now, tax advantages, hiring and diversity hiring, all this stuff is being implemented
00:23:30.660 and funded by the state and the flag placed on all the embassies for what percentage of
00:23:36.480 the population?
00:23:39.220 What is the LGBT population?
00:23:41.260 I know it's always moving, but, you know, it's down there.
00:23:44.540 Single digits, people.
00:23:45.620 And so all of us Christians are just like, oh, well, yeah, it's too bad.
00:23:49.880 I'm going to complain.
00:23:50.760 I'm going to write another tweet about this new latest thing in the L to the LMNOP, whatever's
00:23:57.000 going on.
00:23:58.000 But they're demanding for this and they're getting it.
00:24:01.200 We should be demanding and we should be getting it.
00:24:03.400 We are bigger.
00:24:04.380 We are older.
00:24:05.640 We are stronger.
00:24:08.260 Arguably, our civilization is built on this worldview, not on that worldview.
00:24:12.080 So, yes, it may be that if you're a single person, you don't benefit from these policies
00:24:17.900 indirectly, you will.
00:24:19.600 But to say that every policy has to affect every citizen equally is just not the case
00:24:24.960 in America.
00:24:25.420 And the LGBT community and their privilege is just a obvious example to that. 1.00
00:24:33.880 One of the things we're hoping to see is that your issues are brought forward.
00:24:40.440 I know it's expensive to run.
00:24:43.520 It costs a lot to get onto the presidential stage at all.
00:24:48.180 There's a fear the media won't cover you.
00:24:51.040 And what are your thoughts on those things?
00:24:56.220 Well, I've always been an entrepreneurial person and I've always, people always tell me
00:25:03.360 that's not possible.
00:25:05.180 You can't do that.
00:25:06.080 You can't, you know, start your own institute or publish your own book or do your own show.
00:25:11.200 And I just do it.
00:25:12.160 And, but there's also a bunch of things that I've tried in my life that I've failed and
00:25:15.720 I haven't worked.
00:25:16.720 And I, I don't know.
00:25:17.840 I think, you know, the, I think it's in the Proverbs.
00:25:21.160 It says that the righteous are bold as a lion and the, the wicked flee when no one is pursuing.
00:25:30.440 And if you think about all the stories in the Bible, it's always the, the, the, when
00:25:38.140 you're down and out, you know, the underdog, the, the David, the shepherd with his slingshot.
00:25:43.660 These are these moments at the edge of the Red Sea when you're about to be drowned with
00:25:47.340 Pharaoh pursuing you.
00:25:48.380 I mean, let's just give it a shot.
00:25:50.400 The worst thing that could happen, John Henry, is that everybody on Twitter and Facebook
00:25:55.380 laughs at Taylor Marshall. 1.00
00:25:57.220 What an idiot. 1.00
00:25:58.460 Look what he tried to do. 1.00
00:25:59.680 He's so dumb. 1.00
00:26:00.520 He failed. 1.00
00:26:01.640 Okay.
00:26:02.160 So what?
00:26:03.040 I'm okay with that.
00:26:04.260 I'm completely okay with that.
00:26:05.780 If people mocking me and saying I failed, that's fine, but we have to give it a try.
00:26:11.180 You know, somebody in Hungary said, you know, wouldn't it be great if we could institute these
00:26:14.860 policies and help families? 1.00
00:26:16.220 And a lot of people said, that's stupid. 1.00
00:26:17.840 You can't do that in Europe. 1.00
00:26:19.200 You can't do that in a post-Soviet country. 0.71
00:26:21.100 That's never going to work.
00:26:22.140 Well, they did it.
00:26:23.580 Someone in Japan says, you know what?
00:26:25.200 This porn is getting out of control.
00:26:26.580 We need to ban pornography.
00:26:27.920 And a lot of people said, you can never do that.
00:26:29.460 And they did it.
00:26:31.120 You know, a lot of people probably said the Roman empire will never be Christian. 0.98
00:26:35.220 That's ridiculous. 0.99
00:26:35.940 Look how pagan and evil it is. 1.00
00:26:38.160 And it happened.
00:26:38.920 So let's just go for it and try it.
00:26:41.600 And if the worst thing that's going to happen is people are going to make fun of you and 1.00
00:26:44.800 talk about what an idiot you are, that's not that bad of a thing. 1.00
00:26:48.720 So to me, it's worth it. 1.00
00:26:50.400 Now, you've met President Trump personally.
00:26:54.980 You were at the dinner with me, which was organized by Steve Bannon, very much involved
00:27:00.440 in the Trump campaign.
00:27:01.220 But for pro-lifers, Trump has, particularly recently, in recent weeks, stunningly showed
00:27:10.060 an ignorance of the pro-life movement that's just unreal.
00:27:13.940 When he talked about how, you know, we're going to, it's too harsh and too far with even
00:27:19.780 a six-week ban.
00:27:21.040 That's just mind-blowing.
00:27:23.440 Newsflash for President Trump and anybody who thinks anything about pro-lifers, pro-lifers
00:27:27.680 are about life.
00:27:28.380 It's about abortion is murder and that's it. 0.99
00:27:32.320 And that's why I loved so much one of your recent posts about murder is murder.
00:27:37.600 Like, hello?
00:27:38.520 We saw that same thing, though, even during his presidency with, I should say, though,
00:27:45.400 before I continue, we love part of it.
00:27:48.480 The only Amy Coney Barrett and the overturning of role really rests with him in a way.
00:27:54.740 In history, that'll go down.
00:27:56.140 And he did bring God back to America in some very real ways.
00:28:00.060 When Obama was trying to basically eliminate the name of God from everywhere, he brought
00:28:03.720 it back.
00:28:04.120 And he was all about Merry Christmas and God bless you and God bless America.
00:28:07.540 But the same-sex marriage thing, the whole pushing of the alphabet agenda was very clear
00:28:13.820 with President Trump, shockingly and sadly for so many of us who had such hopes for his presidency.
00:28:20.680 And after having met him and been with him and been people, all sorts of people involved
00:28:29.800 in the campaign, and part of the reason why we were so into President Trump was because
00:28:34.840 he had people like you.
00:28:37.040 There were so many people who gathered around him, Sister Didi and Jason Jones and all these
00:28:41.660 folks who were like a lot of LifeSite's friends in America, it was like, wow, who is this president
00:28:49.540 finally getting real people in his campaign?
00:28:52.860 So it was incredibly enthusiastic for a time.
00:28:56.360 But there's been a lot of letdowns.
00:28:58.700 I don't know if you can speak to that now, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
00:29:04.360 Yeah, here's my, here's, I think this is a sober remark on it.
00:29:10.500 And that is, if you compare ourselves to the LGBT community, they always demand and they 1.00
00:29:18.840 always expect.
00:29:21.200 So if, if a corporation said, we're not going to run these ads, or we're not going to run
00:29:26.940 these logos, we're not going to run these products, there would be repercussions, there
00:29:31.860 would be phone calls, there would be meetings and all that.
00:29:36.220 I'm not trying to excuse President Trump on these things.
00:29:39.300 I think he needs to get back to the basics on these issues and he'll, he'll get a groundswell
00:29:44.920 of support.
00:29:46.060 But I think on our side of things, like I said earlier in this interview, we, we flipped
00:29:53.360 Roe v. Wade and we pat ourselves on the back.
00:29:56.200 And it's kind of like, it's over.
00:29:57.380 And what we should have done is that should have been a major movement to raise funds and
00:30:03.340 choose political candidates and to raise awareness and like, rah, rah, rah, we're winning.
00:30:09.660 We're going to continue to win, which is what they do.
00:30:12.540 We're not as good at that.
00:30:13.760 And I think a lot of Republican candidates, remember a lot of Republican candidates, they
00:30:19.920 are meeting with strategists every single day.
00:30:22.740 Polls, data.
00:30:24.780 I mean, they're not just like reading one newspaper in the morning and making decisions.
00:30:28.300 They have teams and staffs like, you know, and if they think, well, we could get 1% or
00:30:35.200 2% of the LGBT.
00:30:36.240 And if we go here, but you know, these conservatives, they don't really have a lot of demands.
00:30:40.920 They don't have, they're not really in our ear on some of these stuff.
00:30:43.840 They're pretty tolerant, understanding people.
00:30:46.260 We can maybe carve out some of these people in the middle.
00:30:49.160 And, but we'll, we can still have John Henry Weston and we can still have LifeSite news
00:30:53.920 people and all that.
00:30:54.760 They, they make those calculations.
00:30:57.900 And one of the reasons they're able to make those calculations is because we do not speak
00:31:03.060 as Christians in the public square.
00:31:06.260 And I am encouraging people to be bold as a lion.
00:31:10.940 And we need to be telling these people, Hey, not acceptable, 100% not acceptable.
00:31:17.400 That's what they would do.
00:31:18.860 If you pulled a Superbowl ad because you were worried about their agenda, they would be all
00:31:23.740 in your face, it would be nonstop.
00:31:25.840 They would be trying to tear you apart.
00:31:27.640 And we need to maybe not tear people apart, but we need to gently say, we do not negotiate
00:31:32.680 pro.
00:31:33.640 I've never met a pro-lifer who's like, yeah, I mean, I'm pro-life, but six weeks is okay.
00:31:38.180 I mean, have you ever met a pro-lifer like that, John Henry?
00:31:40.220 Never.
00:31:41.100 That's not the pro-life movement.
00:31:42.920 So we have to continue to articulate and define what pro-life means.
00:31:51.080 It will always be cut away at.
00:31:52.540 That is, that is our job.
00:31:55.020 That's our positions.
00:31:56.360 We, as the disciples of Jesus Christ are the advocates for the little ones.
00:32:00.680 We always will be.
00:32:02.220 And so, so that is our job.
00:32:04.120 So we need to go into politics, not saying, well, separation of church and state.
00:32:10.040 So, you know, on Sunday I'm in the church and on the other days I'm in the state.
00:32:15.140 How schizophrenic is that?
00:32:16.360 You can't remove yourself in and out of the church and the state.
00:32:19.380 I'm a citizen and I'm a Christian, right?
00:32:23.460 I'm a, I'm a citizen of this country and I am baptized.
00:32:26.360 And those, those two things are not, they're, they're not two different reality.
00:32:31.400 I mean, they are two different realities, but I don't move back and forth between those
00:32:34.380 two realities.
00:32:35.180 So if that's true of me as just a citizen, it should be true of you as a senator.
00:32:41.000 Absolutely.
00:32:41.440 Last thought from you, Taylor.
00:32:44.080 I know you're a very busy man.
00:32:45.300 Just came off an interview before coming here.
00:32:48.680 Tell us, God in the public square, what should Catholics, what should Christians do?
00:32:56.440 We, even, even the pro-life movement, the pro-life movement early on, they were like,
00:33:02.460 let's be kind of like open to all, interfaith.
00:33:06.280 And so we don't offend anybody.
00:33:07.560 We attract a big crowd.
00:33:09.720 Tell us about that.
00:33:11.480 You've gone a different direction and we've watched that play out to where it has.
00:33:15.660 What's your take?
00:33:17.740 Well, for hundreds of years, Christians believed that their religion should be on the public 0.61
00:33:24.700 square.
00:33:25.320 Literally, you know, go into the piazzas of Italy and France and Spain, and you'll see,
00:33:32.080 you know, statues of Our Lady and St. James and, you know, Joan of Arc and all these beautiful
00:33:39.140 testaments of Catholic saints and of Our Lady and of our Lord Jesus Christ implemented into
00:33:46.100 the very fabric of society that was never seen as weird or contrarian or anti-state.
00:33:54.320 Because if you think about politics as just an extension of the human family, so we, you
00:34:01.440 and I, John Henry, we believe that the family is the basic unit, the building block of culture
00:34:05.840 in a society.
00:34:07.240 Well, if that's the case, in my home, if you came to my home right now, you would come in
00:34:11.380 and you'd see a very beautiful sort of a Byzantine-looking crucifix, and you'd see an icon of the Holy
00:34:20.060 Family, and you'd see a statue of Our Lady, and you'd see the Sacred Heart and Immaculate
00:34:24.660 Heart, and you would come into my home and you would say, these people are Catholic.
00:34:28.140 This is what they honor and value.
00:34:29.520 Well, if culture and a nation is just the bringing together of families, well, then that culture
00:34:39.120 would also take on this public expression of what these people believe.
00:34:45.640 And yet we're thinking, well, I am a Christian, but I shouldn't decorate my home like a Christian. 0.99
00:34:50.540 Whoa, whoa, why do you think that?
00:34:52.840 So we have to re-understand, I mean, we really need to go back to Socrates and Plato and Aristotle
00:34:57.420 and the Church Fathers and Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.
00:35:01.120 We really need to re-understand what is a family, what is a human, what is matrimony,
00:35:06.840 what is a family, and what is a nation?
00:35:09.820 And really, the answer is kind of all the same for all these things, because you've got
00:35:13.700 human, what is a human, matrimony, family, nation, these are just all continuums, the way God designed
00:35:21.480 things.
00:35:22.840 Can we Christians start to think that way?
00:35:24.980 Can we talk that way?
00:35:26.100 Can we debate that way?
00:35:27.660 I believe we can.
00:35:29.100 I believe if we don't start doing that, it's completely over, like we're getting towards
00:35:33.060 the edge of the cliff.
00:35:34.740 So let's give it a shot.
00:35:36.140 The worst they can do is mock us.
00:35:37.940 I'm okay with that.
00:35:40.040 Dr. Taylor Marshall, totally unashamed to bring Christ and to his fellow men.
00:35:46.240 Therefore, our Lord will not be ashamed of you before his Father.
00:35:50.620 We don't usually do this, but you do.
00:35:52.520 You remind people all the time of this.
00:35:59.200 And you tell them, pray your rosary every day, otherwise you're not on the team.
00:36:03.200 Pray the rosary.
00:36:03.440 And Taylor, you end out your shows with the Lord's Prayer in Latin.
00:36:09.740 Would you lead us?
00:36:10.300 Yes, let's pray.
00:36:12.700 Let's pray.
00:36:12.980 I also want to say, pray the rosary every day.
00:36:15.600 The rosary, you can think of it, David and Goliath, you know, he had just this little,
00:36:19.980 he didn't even have an impressive weapon.
00:36:22.780 But with that weapon, he defeated Goliath and he became a king.
00:36:26.100 And, you know, pray the rosary every day.
00:36:27.940 Like the saints say it.
00:36:29.600 Our Lady says it.
00:36:30.640 Padre Pio says it.
00:36:31.960 Like all the heroes say it.
00:36:33.140 So let's just do it.
00:36:34.280 All right.
00:36:34.480 So let's pray.
00:36:35.460 My dad, too, had a saying about the rosary.
00:36:39.080 He's a saint in my books.
00:36:40.660 He called it our umbilical cord to our Heavenly Mother.
00:36:45.320 Yes.
00:36:46.020 Beautiful.
00:36:46.740 I agree.
00:36:47.440 I think it's wonderful.
00:36:48.360 Okay.
00:36:48.520 So we'll do the Our Father.
00:36:49.900 Sound good?
00:36:50.340 Go for it.
00:36:50.800 Yeah, please.
00:36:51.180 All right.
00:37:21.580 Nomeni Patris, Ifidi, et Spiritus Sancti.
00:37:24.060 Amen.
00:37:25.380 Amen.
00:37:25.880 Amen.
00:37:27.060 Taylor Marshall, so good being with you.
00:37:29.500 God bless you, my friend.
00:37:30.660 Thank you.
00:37:31.900 God bless you.
00:37:32.480 And I hope for nothing more than to see you present in the United States.
00:37:35.340 That would be a gift to the nation.
00:37:37.900 But let's pray at least they let your issues come forward and give you fair airtime.
00:37:44.300 God bless you, my friend.
00:37:45.840 And God bless all of you.
00:37:48.260 And we'll see you next time.
00:37:51.180 Hi, everyone.
00:38:00.640 This is John Henry Weston.
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