The John-Henry Westen Show - May 19, 2023


EXCLUSIVE： Saving Our Children With Legal Expert Liz Yore


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Liz Yor is a child rights advocate who has dedicated her life to fighting for the rights of all children. In this episode of The John Henry Weston Show, Liz shares her story of how she became a child advocate and how her faith has guided her throughout her life.

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00:00:00.000 And so for me, you know, seeing the potential of these great Catholic boys being robbed from
00:00:08.700 certainly not all the priests, obviously not, just broke my heart.
00:00:20.680 Hello and welcome to a very special episode of The John Henry Weston Show. You know,
00:00:25.060 a lot of you know faith and reason very well. And on faith and reason, we have Liz Yor,
00:00:31.420 Father Altman, sometimes Jack Maxey, whenever he chooses to join us. But how many of you know
00:00:37.340 Liz Yor very well? I don't know. I think everybody knows she's a child's rights lawyer and she's been
00:00:43.140 involved with many, many things. And she's an awesome spokesman for faith, defender of life,
00:00:47.940 faith, family, and freedom, particularly children, and just deplores abortion for what it is.
00:00:53.300 And is a great pro-life leader as well. But I wanted you to get to know Liz Yor a little bit
00:01:00.480 more in depth from her homeland, where she spends a lot of time working to rectify what's going on
00:01:08.040 right behind us. So why don't we start there? And we'll have you stay tuned for this episode
00:01:17.060 of the John Henry Weston Show. Hello friends. To celebrate the momentous overturning of Roe
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00:02:01.060 this perilous time. May God bless you. Liz Yor, welcome to the program. Oh, it's great to be here,
00:02:07.720 especially in front of the White House. Let's begin as we always do at the sign of the cross.
00:02:12.800 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Now, our producer,
00:02:19.440 Jim Hale, will not let me get away with asking you, not asking you first, about who do you think
00:02:24.320 is going to be in there in 2024? Oh my goodness. One never knows. Life is changing as quickly as
00:02:32.360 possible. You know, my audience at Faith and Reason probably doesn't know that I was weaned on
00:02:38.460 politics in the big shoulder city of Chicago, or as we now call it, the belly of the beast,
00:02:44.600 only to be seconded by Washington, D.C. But I always feel at home here in Washington because
00:02:52.100 politics is in my blood. And one of the things that I think is so important are the issues that
00:02:58.600 we talk about in Faith and Reason really intersect with politics. You know, we talk about abortion.
00:03:05.360 We talk about all the politicians, you know, the Catholic politicians. And so, you know, as someone
00:03:11.640 who loves politics and loves the church, to be right in front of the White House today,
00:03:17.740 talking about issues that we care deeply about, is my idea of heaven.
00:03:24.500 And it is sort of heaven we want to talk about as well. Because one of the things
00:03:28.020 that I want to give you at the John Henry Weston Show, I really am blessed. I get to introduce
00:03:34.000 you to the most amazing people. People that are so stunning, that have helped my faith life.
00:03:40.380 And this is one right here. Liz Yor has been an incredible example for me, an example of courage.
00:03:48.040 But I want to find out with you more about her background. Where did Liz Yor, the great 1.00
00:03:54.200 Catholic activist, come from? And how did she get there?
00:03:57.240 Well, I guess start from the beginning. I'm the oldest of six children. And my father's a lawyer.
00:04:05.880 So as the oldest of six, I guess, you know, it's natural that I become a child advocate.
00:04:10.900 I've been hurting children ever since I was, you know, five years old. And so it was a natural
00:04:17.640 for me to get involved not only in the law, but also in child advocacy. And it's been a great
00:04:23.080 experience. I've worked in missing children. I've worked in child welfare, in children who are part 1.00
00:04:31.760 of the welfare system. I've worked in media, worked for Oprah Winfrey for six years, and done a lot of
00:04:40.720 international child abduction and child exploitation work. So it's, I never in a million years thought
00:04:47.600 that, you know, at the end of my career, I would be so involved in church work. Because obviously my
00:04:56.240 faith and St. Michael, my two, I always say my two investigative reporters, my researchers,
00:05:03.200 my detectives are St. Michael and St. Anthony. They helped me find children. And so here I am,
00:05:09.600 you know, talking about many of the same issues, but vis-a-vis the church. And what's really important
00:05:17.460 to me is that, and I've also been involved in many, many clergy abuse scandals, and as heinous as that
00:05:25.220 is, and really to your audience, John Henry, I think it's important for people to know, many people
00:05:31.820 have walked away, as we know, from the church because of the scandal. And what I learned talking
00:05:37.780 to victims of clergy abuse was not what I expected to learn. I realized that we need to look at the church,
00:05:47.440 as if it was our family. We need to protect the church, look out for the church, as if, you know,
00:05:54.980 it's our children. And so for those of us that may have fallen away from the faith, and then came back
00:06:01.280 to the faith, we need to absolutely be vigilant about the church. And so, you know, praise God,
00:06:07.720 that's what we're doing in Faith and Reason, really bringing, you know, my perspective as a child
00:06:12.520 advocate, as an attorney, as somebody who has really seen, you know, the belly of the beast of the church
00:06:17.300 in trying to encourage everybody to learn about the faith. You know, and you can read and talk about
00:06:26.860 the saints and learn about the saints and read all the encyclicals and go to Bible study, and you will
00:06:32.680 never, ever get to the depth of the beauty of the faith. So for those that are away from the church
00:06:40.360 and having understood, you know, how heinous the clergy abuse scandal is, I really, we need you back
00:06:47.800 in the church. Fallen men, evil men who destroyed lives of these beautiful little boys, and there's
00:06:59.000 nothing worse. However, to give up on the church and to give up on the magnificent faith that's really
00:07:06.200 been a legacy for us. And, you know, I was lucky to know both my grandparents, they were both on both
00:07:13.880 sides, devout Catholics. We had nuns on one side, many, many priests on the other side. I remember the
00:07:21.680 family rosary, daily mass. And so I was given a gift that I really, I can't just throw away,
00:07:32.720 and I want to pass it on to my children and to my grandchildren. So for that reason, it's been
00:07:39.280 a gift from God being on faith and reason to work with you. I'm Jack Maxey and Father Altman. We have
00:07:45.320 a lot of fun. We do indeed. One of the things that people see you as a very courageous woman,
00:07:53.400 as one willing to step out. You've described your work with the most horrible things, the abuse
00:07:59.800 scandals, things that would normally totally turn people off the faith. But your faith is solid as a
00:08:07.320 rock. In fact, it seems to get stronger as the times get worse. What is that? How did you get there?
00:08:14.360 Well, that's a good question. I did have a crisis of faith when I was working as general counsel of
00:08:21.160 the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services, met 50 to 100 victims of clergy abuse.
00:08:26.760 All were men, all in their 40s, 50s, and 60s, hearing these horrible stories. And I was just about ready
00:08:35.000 to say, that's it. You know, how could a loving God allow this to happen? And what I realized,
00:08:42.680 after venting to the Lord in prayer, I realized if we don't step up and be involved to cleanse and
00:08:52.600 purify our church in whatever way, whether it's through prayer, whether it's through the sacraments,
00:08:58.600 rosary, whether it's through advocacy, whether it's keeping eyes on the altar and speaking out,
00:09:06.040 then the church won't thrive. And so as much as it's very easy to say, you know, and it is easy,
00:09:13.560 you can say there's plenty of reason to walk away. What happened to me is I doubled down on my faith
00:09:20.600 and on getting involved. And interestingly, I, as a result of that, decided I was going to be involved
00:09:29.480 in the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences and attend their human trafficking conference. Human
00:09:36.280 trafficking is an issue that I've been involved in. We've had some success. I know how difficult it is
00:09:42.840 to save kids, rescue kids. And so when Francis in 2013 became Pope and started talking about human
00:09:51.000 trafficking, I thought, oh, he's talking about an issue I care deeply about. This is the church
00:09:56.200 getting involved in human trafficking to end it, this horrible scourge. So, you know, Francis always
00:10:03.800 says, God of surprises. Well, I did, you know, I did go to the Vatican in November of 2013. I met the Pope.
00:10:12.440 I was in his presence for 20 minutes. I attended the conference and what happened was, as I've told
00:10:22.120 many times, my soul was rattled. I went there and heard about climate change. I didn't hear about
00:10:29.240 human trafficking. I went there and I was surrounded by radical leftists from the UN and from radical NGOs.
00:10:39.640 In fact, I had a friend at the conference who's an American friend and it was, there was only 80
00:10:44.600 people there from around the world by invitation only. And he turned to me at one point in the
00:10:50.760 conference and said, are we the only pro-lifers here, Liz? Well, that sums up the conference. And
00:10:57.480 so I was shaken. But again, I thought, well, maybe it's me, you know, maybe I can't trust my instincts.
00:11:05.160 But what happened on the plane back, and I remember distinctly on the plane back to Chicago from Rome,
00:11:11.320 I said, I'm going to watch this papacy. I'm going to study what's going on. Every paper, every conference,
00:11:19.960 every document, every speech, I'm going to scour. No, I've never, you know, I've been too busy
00:11:25.880 practicing law to really, you know, scrutinize what's coming out of the Vatican. But that was kind
00:11:32.280 of my promise to God after, you know, the horrible clergy abuse scandal is to be vigilant. And as a
00:11:39.880 result, I started down this course of, you know, criticizing, commenting, really trying to be an
00:11:47.720 activist with respect to what's going on in this papacy. I've learned a tremendous amount. I've
00:11:55.000 also learned about some great popes and read some things that I've never read before, and learned
00:12:00.440 about all sorts of Freemasonry and all sorts of historical things in the church. I've become a
00:12:08.040 student of my faith for the first time. And to think that I might have walked away because of the
00:12:15.960 clergy abuse, it was just, you know, and because I'm kind of free to speak the way I want to speak
00:12:22.840 freely, and thanks to LifeSite News, of course, I can call it as I see them. And I want to awaken
00:12:32.360 the faithful to what's going on in this global reset. And what I view as the really pivotal role
00:12:41.080 that's being played by the Vatican in the global reset, which is in many respects, they're providing
00:12:48.440 the moral voice of the New World Order. And to me, that's shocking. And I just, I can't remain silent.
00:12:57.800 And so as a result, that's, you know, it's, it's just a strange and curious path. I've traveled,
00:13:06.280 you know, I still am waiting for them to do something about human trafficking, and then
00:13:10.600 they haven't. So that's kind of, you know, my involvement in how we met and how, you know,
00:13:20.280 being a child advocate lawyer, which I thought I would be till, you know, I'm six feet under,
00:13:25.160 I still am. But now I'm fighting for the church.
00:13:29.880 So one of the things about you, Liz, is that you, despite all the, I want to say H-E double
00:13:40.840 hockey sticks, his father would put it, you remain faithful. You also, for all of your learning and
00:13:48.040 your prowess in the legal field and everything else are very humble. And I think that touches a lot of
00:13:52.280 people. I wanted to ask if you could share it about your prayer life, because that does not come
00:13:59.400 normal. That doesn't, that's not just handed to you. It's, that's hard fought and hard won.
00:14:05.320 Would you mind telling us about your prayer life? Sure. I can always pray more. Let me just say that
00:14:12.680 the outside. But daily mass, I have an amazing prayer group that I'm part of in my parish of
00:14:22.280 women and a few men that are just prayer warriors. You know, we, my husband and I say the morning,
00:14:30.120 the rosary every morning, get a cup of coffee and light some candles. It's just the perfect way to
00:14:37.080 begin your day. And we, you know, those that we know who are sick or struggling, we mention in our
00:14:42.840 rosary, and then we're off to mass. We also say a second rosary. And I have to thank Jim Caviezel
00:14:49.800 for that, because he talked, he talked at some conference that I went to about the importance
00:14:54.600 of saying as many rosaries as you can. And that he's, I think he said that he spoke, prayed two rosaries.
00:15:01.240 So we say a rosary, um, at night. I also say a rosary with my prayer group at daily mass. So,
00:15:07.960 um, I get, you know, normally get three in, um, and, um, you know, I have a devote devotion to a lot of
00:15:15.080 saints, um, devotion to the Holy face, um, which, um, is growing leaps and bounds. Thank you, John Henry,
00:15:22.280 for making that happen. Um, you know, these are all things that I didn't know about growing up,
00:15:27.400 even though we had to, I was educated for, uh, let me see, 18 years in Catholic schools,
00:15:33.640 you know, including law school and college. So, um, I didn't know about the Holy face. I didn't 0.91
00:15:39.800 know about divine mercy. Um, I've really dug into, you know, the saints. Um, my dad's name is Thomas
00:15:46.760 Aquinas. So I haven't, maybe I'm, you know, I don't, you know, I'm, I'm going to be not humble,
00:15:52.920 but I'm going to be honest. I don't think I've tackled Thomas Aquinas. You know,
00:15:56.680 I know somebody said, I always have Thomas Aquinas on my nightstand. It'd be the first
00:16:01.000 time I'm going to write to sleep with Thomas Aquinas on my nightstand. So, um, you know,
00:16:07.240 so I, you know, there's just, you know, the prayer warriors out there on the internet and,
00:16:11.960 you know, people who have been generously sharing information, um, talking about,
00:16:17.640 you know, orders of nuns that they love and priests. And, you know, it's just,
00:16:21.800 it's begun this community of, um, faithful that is just extraordinary. So, um, I hope and continue to
00:16:30.440 hope and pray that I will have more and more devotions. Um, you know, I just, I'm just amazed
00:16:37.880 at the gift of my faith and that at my age that I continue to learn so much and really, frankly,
00:16:44.600 knew so little. And, um, so anyway, so that's my prayer life. Um, and, um, you know, I'm very big
00:16:53.080 on the rosary and the blessed mother, of course, I'm just, and our house that you, you know, you can
00:16:58.520 see, we, we have St. Joseph's statues and I also, and a friend gave me, I have no relics and a friend
00:17:05.160 gave me, um, Pius X's relic, which is on my table right next to the Holy Face, um, picture. Uh, so,
00:17:13.560 uh, and, and as a result, I read everything that, um, Pius X has written, you know, interesting,
00:17:20.120 I'm sure this impacts you too, as well. You know, I can read a book and then three years later, I go
00:17:25.000 back after having the experiences and then I reread the book and I go, I miss that whole, that whole
00:17:30.120 section. It's just, it's through new eyes. And, um, as a result of that relic, I was at the time
00:17:36.680 reading, um, the oath on modernism and, um, he's just so brilliant, such a brilliant Pope. Um, and
00:17:43.560 then this friend gave me the relic and I was like, oh my goodness, the coincidence, you know? Um, so, um,
00:17:49.560 that's kind of, you know, that's in a nutshell. Um, you know, I'm always, I'm always, you know,
00:17:55.000 trying to be a better human being, better Catholic, um, better wife, mother, grandmother.
00:18:02.280 It's one of the things I think, um, I always just think we go to the saints. Sometimes now,
00:18:07.640 I think the saints choose us. And so, you know, cause you got, well, literally, you know,
00:18:14.600 when I was looking for missing children, which is oftentimes looking for a needle in a haystack
00:18:19.880 and I would knock on a lot of doors, including the FBI. And many times the FBI would, you know,
00:18:25.480 we don't do that when in fact they did do that. And more often than not, the law enforcement agent
00:18:32.520 after knocking on a lot of doors would be the Catholic. Let's say, okay, Liz, let's work this 0.97
00:18:38.040 case. I can help you. I got some angles. And so, you know, that was to me very interesting. I mean,
00:18:45.400 to a case every time there was a, um, holy devout Catholic who would go the extra mile,
00:18:51.880 who cared. Um, and, and I really do believe it was Saint Michael who protected me because you're
00:18:58.440 looking for, you know, predators who are hiding children. And it was Saint Anthony who, um, literally
00:19:05.320 plucked these children out of obscurity, um, who were gone forever. Um, and so, um,
00:19:11.800 I was just merely a tool. Um, and so I would really urge people to call on the saints. Um,
00:19:18.440 if you have a favorite or if you're reading about the saints and one just kind of tugs at your heart,
00:19:23.320 um, go with it. Of course, Saint Michael has been, you know, Saint Michael will be nice every day
00:19:28.200 because he, he's just, especially in these times, you know, standing in front of the White House,
00:19:33.400 we serve this country needs Saint Michael in the Blessed Mother. Um, and we have to get on our knees
00:19:40.920 and invoke the saints, especially him, and especially the Blessed Mother and her son. Um,
00:19:47.720 and you know, it's what gives me peace. You know, we talk about things in the show, don't we, that are
00:19:52.520 just, you know, kind of, it'll shake you to your core. But, um, when you have faith, you can just
00:19:59.000 plow ahead, um, know that we're in God's hands, um, knowing that if we get weak need, we just, you know,
00:20:06.840 pray harder, um, double down. Um, and so really, I would really urge people, um, you know, and I,
00:20:14.440 you know, coming from a big family and having seen everything that's gone on, you know, the darkest,
00:20:19.960 darkest, um, parts of the church. Um, I've seen the glorious parts of the church and it's, you know,
00:20:28.280 evil. The devil has infiltrated certain parts of the church and what he wants, his goal is for us
00:20:34.840 to walk away. Um, and so, um, no matter how long you've been away from the church, you've got to come
00:20:42.040 back. The beauty, the consolation, the comfort, um, you know, bringing healing to yourself and the family,
00:20:49.880 in the family, you know, it's, um, you know, AA, you know, the, in the AA, they always talk about
00:20:55.960 belief in a higher power, you know, and, um, by coming back to the church and, you know, you're
00:21:01.720 going to have to do some work. You're going to have to find a parish you like and, but you're going to,
00:21:06.280 God's going to plop you down in a place with people who support you and love you and pray for you.
00:21:13.160 Um, and I think in this time, John Henry, especially now with things being so crazy,
00:21:19.800 it's really important to have a group of people that you trust implicitly. You know, you know,
00:21:26.360 I read a lot, you know, my free time about the resistance movement during World War II
00:21:31.800 and the importance of trusting people, um, that they see the world through your eyes,
00:21:38.600 through the eyes of Christ, um, that they be willing, that the, the recommendations, the advice,
00:21:45.080 the prayers are in your best interest. Um, we're, we're going to need that. Um, and, and plus the
00:21:51.640 sharing of information. I mean, with COVID, with the vaccines, with everything that's been happening,
00:21:57.400 the fact that we have a network that has got their tentacles out, you know, in the, um,
00:22:03.400 cyber sphere, looking for information. Um, and you know, it's really critical. So for me,
00:22:10.440 I think the prayer group, um, my friends at church, uh, knowing that they've got my back,
00:22:17.400 um, that it's, it's a real consolation during a time when, you know, it's pretty dark.
00:22:22.280 Um, indeed, indeed. One of the things you said there was just a tool, uh, in the hands of God.
00:22:29.960 That's the most beautiful thing to be that you could ever be. Um, but one of the things you said was
00:22:36.920 know when God tugs at your heart. I think a lot of people want to know what that is because
00:22:42.520 trying to understand how God speaks to us, he does, but you've got to hear it in hearing. It's
00:22:48.520 difficult because it's not like he knocks on your head and says, hello, John Henry, wake up.
00:22:54.040 It's much more subtle than that. In your own experience, if you can tell us about that.
00:22:57.960 Sure. Um, sometimes it's, it is subtle. Um, and sometimes it's not, you know, I oftentimes
00:23:05.880 say the blessed mother will take my head and go, you know, this way, Liz, you know, after a rosary
00:23:10.600 or saying the rosary. And I, I write some articles we speak and, and I will have this thought that
00:23:17.320 isn't my thought. I'm like, where did that come from? You know? So it's, it's, you know,
00:23:22.040 that's why I encourage people, you know, it can be something as, you know, send flowers to this person
00:23:27.160 or, you know, something that we're talking about on the show. Um, but, um, I think, you know,
00:23:31.800 the blessed mother, like any mother, you know, gives us good, healthy advice. Um, and for me,
00:23:38.280 sometimes it would just come, you know, with a phrase, a word, a thought. Um, and with respect
00:23:43.880 to kind of that moment and, you know, I talk about it a lot, that moment where I was ready to walk
00:23:50.600 after, you know, seeing, you know, and, and to those out there, um, this is how the, you,
00:23:57.400 when I was interviewing victims of clergy abuse, who were 50, 60 year old men, and they would say
00:24:02.600 to me, Liz, I was a seventh grader. I was getting straight A's. I was captain of the basketball team.
00:24:08.680 I was head of the crossing guards. Um, I just, I had a million friends and then I was abused by
00:24:15.160 father and I stopped studying. Um, I dropped out of school. I started drinking, using drugs. Um, and
00:24:22.520 then, then it would be either, you know, went to prison, um, became mentally ill, uh, you know,
00:24:29.960 all the consequences that happened. And so for me, you know, seeing the potential of these great
00:24:37.400 Catholic boys being robbed from certainly not all the priests, obviously not, um, just broke my heart.
00:24:46.200 Um, and so I really felt self-righteous and I thought, you know, your God, this is, you know,
00:24:54.120 it was the potential that was lost. And of course, many of them killed themselves. Um, which is kind of
00:24:59.640 an untold story about, and one guy would say to me, no, I didn't commit suicide, but Johnny, who was being
00:25:06.040 abused with me, committed suicide. And, you know, his mother never knew what happened to him. And,
00:25:12.360 um, he said, I probably should tell his mother what happened to him, that it wasn't something she did.
00:25:18.520 So, so anyway, so in that mode of being very self-righteous, it was, it was like a lightning bolt,
00:25:27.480 you know, that I was, you know, just confident that I had done my utmost to help these people,
00:25:35.480 to try and clean up the church. And, um, God had more work for me to do. And that was the last
00:25:42.840 thing I expected. The last thing. I just, you know, just the last thing. So I realized, I said,
00:25:51.000 why didn't anybody tell us when we were going, your job is to love the church, be vigilant on the church,
00:25:57.960 protect the church, speak up for the good and the, and against the bad. Um, no one ever told us that.
00:26:06.040 And yet that's really what God expects us to do. Just like, you know, the disciples, if you read
00:26:12.120 the Bible, you know, they're correcting one another, they're correcting, you know, heresy,
00:26:16.920 they're, you know, telling each other to pray harder, um, to get rid of that person, them,
00:26:21.960 and you know, now, well, so it took, it took that, but it was a total surprise.
00:26:28.280 Um, and, um, I'm so grateful because, you know, not only personally, you know, to be in, you know,
00:26:36.120 in the bosom of the church, but also, you know, intellectually and spiritually to have learned
00:26:41.560 so much about the faith, um, because of that. Um, and, and I realized, you know, as you don't know,
00:26:48.280 anything, you know, and, and so, um, it's an ongoing, as you know, it's an ongoing study.
00:26:54.600 You know, you read these books, oh my gosh, the saint, these people who, you know, in Chicago,
00:27:01.080 you know, Mother Cabrini, um, Catherine Drexel, I mean, the hospitals and orphanages and schools
00:27:07.800 and monasteries that these women built and they built this, this civilization in America. 1.00
00:27:14.920 They're like, what am I doing? I mean, it was just, it's incredible to me to read,
00:27:20.600 you know, oh, they started this order and this order and, you know, the hundreds of women and, 0.98
00:27:24.840 um, you know, so it's, uh, it's the standard by which, you know, we need to judge ourselves,
00:27:32.760 right? If we're to grow the church, um, and no other religion, no faith has any, has these saints,
00:27:41.320 um, and our modern day saints, like, you know, Padre Pio, you know, all, um, and I,
00:27:46.920 we have this beautiful national shrine not far from my house of Maximilian Kolbe. And so I go there,
00:27:53.480 it's 24 seven adoration. And, um, there's a, there is, um, both a museum of the, of, uh,
00:28:01.720 Maximilian Kolbe and also, um, you know, with his cell where he was in. And so you just read about,
00:28:09.400 you know, this is the beauty of the faith. It just, it, you know, gives strength, um, and,
00:28:15.000 you know, miracles happen. So, I mean, um, that's, you know, a God of surprises. That's about the only
00:28:22.760 thing I agree with Francis about. Um, but, um, yeah, that's, that's how I got, you know,
00:28:30.520 to stand in front of the White House with John Henry Weston.
00:28:36.120 And that, my friends, is why Liz Yor is with us on Faith and Reason. Liz, thank you so much.
00:28:41.800 Thank you, John Henry.
00:28:42.440 And God bless you.
00:28:43.480 Thank you. And to you as well.
00:28:45.640 And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.
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