The John-Henry Westen Show - March 09, 2021


Exposing the liberal activist quietly driving US environmental policy


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Bill McKibben is one of the most influential environmental activists in the world. He is a writer, a thinker, a philosopher, and an environmentalist. And yet, he has no qualifications to be a climate scientist or a scientist at all. In this episode of the John Henry Wesson Show, I discuss his views on climate change, and why he should be taken seriously.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, and welcome to this episode of the John Henry Wesson Show, where we will be airing
00:00:04.120 part two of my interview with John Droz.
00:00:07.680 And this time, he's talking about the leftist climate guru who's really behind much of the
00:00:14.680 US climate policy of Joe Biden.
00:00:18.560 And I know who you're thinking, but it's not Bill Gates.
00:00:21.820 Stay tuned.
00:00:30.000 What do you think is going to happen?
00:00:43.320 I don't know if this is your area of expertise, but with the proposal for the Paris climate
00:00:49.740 change that this is signed, Biden signed back into, and his climate policies, what do you
00:00:56.860 think is going to happen with that over the next four years?
00:00:58.940 This is something I do have a fair amount of knowledge about.
00:01:01.920 So this is a, what's going to happen is that the United States is most likely going to follow
00:01:08.980 along by, you know, playing along in the Paris climate accord game.
00:01:17.160 In my view, it's a game, again, because there's a lot of contradictions if you look into this.
00:01:23.800 If, for example, if everything was so desperate, particularly they're saying that the
00:01:28.800 world's going to end by 2030 or some time of that nature, yet the number one emitter of 0.99
00:01:36.280 CO2 here, China, doesn't have any obligation to do anything after 2030.
00:01:43.500 How can that possibly make sense?
00:01:45.540 It's just completely nonsensical that people can say, this is what we need to do, but yes,
00:01:52.440 we're going to let off the people who are causing the most problems. 0.98
00:01:57.080 It's just completely hypocritical.
00:01:59.260 In my view, this is all really about bringing America down. 0.53
00:02:04.580 In my view, the person who's behind all this, that's the most important person that you ought
00:02:09.020 to be aware of is Bill McKibben.
00:02:11.060 Bill McKibben is generally considered to be the leader of the worldwide environmental movement.
00:02:18.800 So when Bernie Sanders, when Hillary Clinton, when Joe Biden sit down to make up policies about
00:02:26.980 such things, the person who's sitting there at the table with them is Bill McKibben.
00:02:32.300 When the Sierra Club, when the Greenpeace, all these other organizations on the left decide
00:02:38.760 what their messaging and policy is going to be, they call up Bill McKibben.
00:02:43.560 He is the person behind all of these here.
00:02:45.640 And that's, to me, one of the surprising things is how few people are even aware of that position
00:02:52.440 here.
00:02:54.040 The second part is that once you understand that this is the guy that's one of, if not
00:02:59.700 the most influential in the world, you ought to be known what his thinking is.
00:03:05.420 Now, the good thing is he's given a lot of talks.
00:03:07.320 He's written several books.
00:03:09.900 His website is 350.org.
00:03:13.420 But if you read some of his books here, you find some very interesting perspectives.
00:03:19.500 Let's put it that way.
00:03:20.560 So what's his take on things?
00:03:22.320 Where is he coming from?
00:03:23.740 Well, that's not going to get to.
00:03:25.420 But first of all, you need to know who he is.
00:03:27.500 He graduated from Harvard, so I'd say he's a smart guy, but his degree, but I'm going
00:03:33.260 to say, but his degree was in journalism.
00:03:36.000 Oh, OK.
00:03:37.760 He was, I don't know, editor of the Harvard Crimson or whatever, but his degree is in journalism.
00:03:43.620 So my first point is that he has zero, none, nada credentials in science.
00:03:52.020 He's not a scientist.
00:03:54.080 Has no credentials whatsoever in science.
00:03:56.160 And yet he is the person telling everybody what to do about this scientific matter, quote
00:04:03.200 unquote, climate change.
00:04:05.020 How does a journalist dictate world policy on a technical matter?
00:04:11.240 Well, that's the type of absurdity we're living in.
00:04:13.320 Well, what his answer is, his answer is, well, I have consulted with multiple experts.
00:04:18.860 And I say to that, well, that's good.
00:04:21.840 But how did you choose those experts to consult with?
00:04:26.120 Well, the fact is, the only people he's really consulted with are people that have alarmist
00:04:31.500 perspectives.
00:04:32.600 What is his view?
00:04:33.620 Well, in my opinion, this is an opinion, one of the most influential or indicative, I should
00:04:40.960 say, things that he said in one of his writings was, he asked a question, are American citizens
00:04:46.480 today happier than they were in 1900?
00:04:49.380 Okay.
00:04:49.680 Well, that's an interesting question.
00:04:50.820 But my response would be, number one, happiness is not something we can quantify.
00:04:58.240 So I don't know how you can say, this person's happier than another person.
00:05:02.520 That's not really that quantifiable.
00:05:04.840 But second of all, we have no data to say what the degree of happiness was in 1900.
00:05:11.900 How can we go back and say, here's the level of happiness those people in 1900?
00:05:15.160 It's impossible to say that.
00:05:18.240 And yet he makes a conclusion, he goes on to answer his own question, and he says, well,
00:05:24.160 Americans were happier in 1900.
00:05:28.100 Okay, fine.
00:05:29.200 So that's his premise of a lot of his arguments here.
00:05:33.300 Well, from that, he then says, okay, well, why were they happier then than they are today?
00:05:41.340 Well, that's an interesting question.
00:05:45.460 Even if you assume he's right, I don't think he's right.
00:05:48.260 But even if you assume he's right, he then goes on to say that the reason that we're less
00:05:55.700 happy today, he doesn't use the word materialism, but probably to most people, that's what he
00:06:04.620 would mean, that we're too materialistic.
00:06:10.820 That isn't the exact word he used, but I'm just saying, that would be the layperson's
00:06:14.540 translation, that this materialism we have, all these things we have don't cause us happiness,
00:06:21.580 they actually reduce our happiness.
00:06:25.860 Now, from a Christian perspective, there's probably some truth to that, right? 1.00
00:06:30.460 Which materialism doesn't correspond with being a better person, holier person, happier person.
00:06:37.820 No, like materialism is an illusion in a lot of ways.
00:06:41.980 But that isn't really his, he's not talking about it from a religious point of view.
00:06:46.680 His perspective is to say, well, okay, what's behind all these materialistic things?
00:06:51.980 And his answer to that is fossil fuels.
00:06:55.380 In other words, you wouldn't have a nice car or two cars, or you wouldn't have a nice
00:07:01.580 house, or you wouldn't have all these types of things here that we have.
00:07:05.320 95 plus percent of everything we have that's considered a modern benefit, whatever, is based
00:07:14.780 on fossil fuels.
00:07:16.460 It's like pulling it out of a hat, you know, because thinking about that, there's so many
00:07:22.740 different things that he could have chosen.
00:07:25.280 In 1900, they had huge families.
00:07:27.980 Now we have, you know, one or maybe two children.
00:07:31.560 There's a monumental change there.
00:07:33.800 But no, he chooses fossil fuels.
00:07:35.820 Okay.
00:07:36.360 Well, he's talking about materialistic things here is the difference.
00:07:39.660 He's blaming materialism to, for, the word he uses is modernity.
00:07:45.340 Okay.
00:07:45.680 I mean, that's the word he actually uses.
00:07:48.020 So he says the fault of why we're less happy today is due to modernity.
00:07:53.540 Now, the problem is most people will say, well, what the hell is modernity?
00:07:56.540 So that's what I'm saying.
00:07:57.720 Effectively, it amounts to materialism.
00:08:00.740 That's what he's saying.
00:08:01.820 Having more stuff, more things is not making you happier.
00:08:05.780 And that part, technically, is right.
00:08:08.540 But then to say most of these things we've gotten here, whether it's phones or other kind
00:08:13.120 of other stuff, are based on fossil fuels.
00:08:15.520 Well, that's right, too.
00:08:16.460 It is.
00:08:17.700 So he's saying if we hadn't had these fossil fuels here, we wouldn't be swamped in all
00:08:24.000 of this materialistic modernity stuff here that's really making us less happy.
00:08:28.060 I was actually surprised to hear you say it was McKibben, because when you were leading
00:08:32.160 up to that, I thought you might be talking about Bill Gates, who is quite the guru as
00:08:37.020 well.
00:08:38.120 Also on climate change, he wrote a climate change book saying, you know, we have to come
00:08:43.020 to zero greenhouse emissions.
00:08:46.800 You know, what do you make of Bill Gates?
00:08:48.900 Bill Gates isn't some genius like he's made out to be.
00:08:51.900 He was effectively in the right place at the right time.
00:08:54.180 He did some good things here, but most of it sort of fell into his lap.
00:09:00.740 But of the two, I would say, in my opinion, that Bill McKibben actually has probably more
00:09:07.100 influence over our climate change environmental policies than Bill Gates does, because he's
00:09:12.480 leading the environmental movement.
00:09:13.560 Bill Gates isn't perceived as the person who's in head of the environmental movement.
00:09:17.120 He's sort of a techie guy that's, you know, I don't know.
00:09:21.060 So he's the vaccine guru, the COVID guru.
00:09:24.980 He's written books on climate change.
00:09:27.320 Unbelievable.
00:09:28.120 But similarly, no background in it scientifically anyway.
00:09:33.620 Well, he has more science background than Bill McKibben does, certainly.
00:09:36.660 But as I say, if you really understood how Bill McKibben made his money, two things.
00:09:42.340 One is he fell into it.
00:09:43.800 And the second thing was he stole a lot of stuff.
00:09:46.240 I mean, he publicly acknowledged it in the court case that he stole stuff.
00:09:51.620 So, for instance, he stole the Macintosh interface from Steve Jobs and company to do Windows.
00:10:01.100 So he was sued by Apple about that.
00:10:04.000 And under court cross-cut across the examination here at trial, he admitted under oath that he
00:10:12.160 had stole it.
00:10:13.900 So it's not a theory.
00:10:14.960 He admitted that then.
00:10:16.840 So the question came down to in the court case, OK, you stole all the stuff that Apple
00:10:21.640 has patents on, which he acknowledged.
00:10:25.120 So he and his attorney, Boyle, another high-end attorney here, their argument was, since there
00:10:34.080 was no debating that they stole it, their argument was that Apple shouldn't have ever been given
00:10:40.360 patents on the things they were given patents.
00:10:42.920 Well, it was a pretty desperate strategy, but actually, it worked.
00:10:51.080 The judge sided with him and said, well, yes, Apple, you have like 50 patents that have been
00:10:56.600 infringed upon here by Bill Gates.
00:10:58.860 I'm dismissing all of these patents.
00:11:00.660 How many people know that?
00:11:04.340 That was just beyond astounding here.
00:11:06.620 You're talking about some of the influence of judges and stuff here?
00:11:08.800 Well, just in closing, John, if you could tell us, what would you suggest people, lawmakers
00:11:15.040 perhaps, can do about all of this, all these things that are going on right now?
00:11:19.760 Because they're threatening our election integrity.
00:11:22.620 They're threatening our livelihood even, because with the whole paying attention to the climate
00:11:29.120 change theory or whatever, we're just damaging our own economies left, right, and center.
00:11:35.660 And the future is being threatened.
00:11:39.620 How can we take action?
00:11:41.280 We need to see the big picture of what's going on here.
00:11:43.460 And until we see the big picture, unfortunately, we're all involved in day-to-day stuff here.
00:11:48.820 We need to stand back and say, what is the big picture?
00:11:51.420 And once you understand that the big picture is really to push us back to be an agrarian society,
00:11:57.720 a communist agrarian society, that'll answer effectively anything else you're going to see.
00:12:05.020 A lot of stuff will all of a sudden start making sense.
00:12:07.440 The best film I've seen on this, I'm sort of a film buff, but is called Grinding America Down.
00:12:17.100 It's amazingly spot on about what's going on here.
00:12:22.460 And it's disturbing, but, you know, you said, what do we need to do?
00:12:29.320 What we need to do is understand what we're up against here.
00:12:32.360 If we're distracted or if we believe that all these people are being honest about election malfeasance being zero,
00:12:42.700 if we believe that's honestly true, well, we're just buying a pig and a poke here.
00:12:47.440 If we believe all their claims about climate change are honestly true,
00:12:52.120 we're just not going to be able to effectively respond to it.
00:12:57.420 So understanding what the big picture is, then the other things I said here,
00:13:03.080 that people on our side here, the allies, need to work better together and they need to have better messaging.
00:13:10.620 So all three of those things are sort of tied together.
00:13:13.020 But the working together and the better messaging would help in educating people as to the big picture of what's going on here.
00:13:19.920 Awesome.
00:13:21.400 John Drost, thank you so much for being with us on this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.
00:13:25.440 And may God bless you.
00:13:26.220 Thank you, John Henry.
00:13:28.160 I appreciate the opportunity.
00:13:30.200 And God bless all of you.
00:13:31.400 We'll see you next time.
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