In this episode of The John Henry Weston Show, Father Mark Goring, a member of the Companions of the Cross, joins us to talk about the scandal that is Vice President Joe Biden and his relationship with the Catholic Church.
00:00:00.900Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we are very pleased to bring you someone many of you will know, Father Mark Goring, a member of the Companions of the Cross, that great charismatic Catholic order, and he has his own YouTube channel, which is very, very well known.
00:00:19.340And Father Mark, thank you so very much for being with us here on the John Henry Weston Show.
00:02:24.380It's heartbreaking that he's not standing up for these Catholic values, these Catholic truths.
00:02:34.620It just causes my head to spin, you know, like how can we be calling him a Catholic and many people upholding him as a, you know, as an example of a devout Catholic when he's not standing up for Catholic truth?
00:02:54.360One of the things that is said of Biden is that he carries a rosary in his pocket.
00:02:58.960We were also told by Cardinal Gregory, even from Rome, when he was made a cardinal just recently, that he would not be forbidding Biden from receiving Holy Communion, that he would, in fact, administer Holy Communion to him.
00:03:12.540Your stance on that, I know, is very different.
00:03:15.300Why would you even dare to refuse Holy Communion, even to the President of the United States, who says he's a Catholic and carries a rosary in his pocket?
00:03:27.320Yeah, well, I mean, what I always say is, like, listen, what they taught us in the seminary was very simple.
00:03:34.460If someone is involved in public scandal, they need to repent publicly before you can give them Holy Communion.
00:03:43.920I mean, our church speaks a lot about dialogue, and I think it's time we have a little dialogue about giving Holy Communion to politicians who are doing things that directly contradict God's law.
00:04:00.900Like you said, the expansion of abortion, I mean, it's one of those things, John Henry.
00:04:06.980I mean, I think you and I were both, you know, very pro-life.
00:04:10.460But, I mean, I have to admit, if a Catholic politician would kind of say, well, listen, you know, I'm Catholic, but I'm not going to be aggressively getting in the way of preventing women from having abortions because everyone wants it.
00:04:32.140I mean, to me, it's like, it's not ideal, but it's like, I can understand that.
00:04:39.420But when a Catholic politician is aggressively expanding abortion and, you know, seeing to it that the United States funds abortions in other countries and things like that, like, to me, it's scandalous.
00:04:56.520It's an embarrassment to the Catholic Church.
00:05:00.520We all have friends who are Christian, non-Catholic Christians, and they ask us, they say, why is this happening?
00:05:10.680Why don't the church authorities do something about this?
00:05:14.620How can the Catholic Church let a Catholic leader get away with this stuff without even challenging him?
00:05:24.120And, you know, some people say, well, he should be excommunicated.
00:05:29.520And I don't know, like, maybe they're right, but I know, for example, you know, the archbishop in this diocese, the former archbishop in this diocese, regarding our own leader in Canada, who's Catholic, but also, you know, pushes for abortion.
00:05:44.120For abortion, what he simply did was to make it clear that he is not to present himself to receive Holy Communion.
00:05:55.180And, you know, that's not as radical as, you know, excommunicating him or going on a verbal rampage against him.
00:06:04.600I mean, I don't know, maybe our leaders don't have to be that radical, but if they can at least do like the very, the excellent archbishop who was here previously did.
00:06:15.940He made it clear publicly, you know, when journalists asked him that, no, a politician who is working for the expansion of abortion cannot present himself to receive Holy Communion.
00:06:29.820To me, it's a no brainer. And it's right now, it's a scandal in a church. And in our church, we talk a lot about dialogue. Why don't we have a dialogue about this?
00:06:39.620This would be a great thing for us to dialogue about. Why the heck, you know, is someone like, and it's not only, you know, the president of the United States, there are other Catholic, you know, high ranking politicians who are in the exact same boat.
00:06:53.980They're doing the exact same thing. And, and again, we don't need to start throwing stones at these people, but something as simple as to say, they cannot present themselves to receive Holy Communion would do a huge help would be a huge help in terms of providing clarity to Catholics on where we stand as Catholics.
00:07:17.900And isn't it even part of church teaching and scriptural that the notion to even excommunicate a Catholic is actually an act of charity? It's for their own good, is it not?
00:07:30.920Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, the thing is, we love President Biden. We want to see him spend all of eternity in heaven. We want to see him succeed. We want to see him do good. And to affirm his going along with these things, or to just ignore it.
00:07:52.180We're not doing him, we're not doing him any service. We're not doing the countless Catholics who do look up to him as an example of a good Catholic. We're not helping anybody by pretending there's nothing wrong, you know?
00:08:10.160And again, and again, I want to reiterate, I'm not saying we should be throwing stones at him, or again, go out on a, you know, intense verbal attack against him. No, but to simply give clarity to Catholics that he is not a Catholic in good standing.
00:08:29.260He should not present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist until he publicly repents of advancing abortion.
00:08:44.820Absolutely. Absolutely. You've also been discussing on your show and with, I saw you had a neat interview with Archbishop Schneider, or excuse me, with Bishop Schneider, Athanasius Schneider,
00:08:56.380about the COVID vaccine and what to do about abortion tainted vaccines, particularly now that this seems to being forced on the planet.
00:09:07.700I know they're saying, oh, it's not going to be forced, not going to be forced, but they're suggesting, you know, if you need to travel or you need to do anything, you really need to have the vaccine.
00:09:17.260In fact, we are already reporting on nurses who are being fired for not accepting the vaccine, even nursing students who are being let go from their programs with it because they're, they're not taking the COVID vaccine.
00:09:30.240So what, what have you thought about, or what do you feel with regard to abortion tainted vaccines and this mandate right now?
00:09:39.700Yeah, like, like many of our good bishops are saying, I mean, I have nothing against vaccines.
00:09:46.240I've, you know, I've taken vaccines over the years.
00:09:51.600Vaccines apparently can be good, save lives.
00:09:54.640So, you know, nothing against vaccines in and of themselves.
00:09:58.100I mean, the two big concerns about, well, I guess three, the three big concerns about the COVID vaccines is, number one, they are rushed.
00:10:08.240You know, like I, I just personally would be very nervous about taking a rushed vaccines.
00:10:15.420They're already starting to report some problems, you know, or some people who've had negative side effects with, with the vaccines.
00:10:24.220I know your, your site, LifeSite News has been kind of mentioning some of these.
00:10:28.680I mean, I don't think the mainstream media is too keen on covering these things.
00:10:34.080So thank you for, for doing that at LifeSite.
00:10:36.540So that's the first thing, just, you know, it's, it's a rushed vaccine.
00:10:40.120You know, people are so afraid of COVID, including young people who are in the category of, of really, you know, not,
00:10:49.420they, they shouldn't be worried about themselves, you know, dying of COVID compared to, you know, other types of things,
00:10:58.560but they're, people are so afraid of COVID and yet they're not afraid to take a rushed vaccine.
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