The John-Henry Westen Show - February 04, 2022


From forced abortions to surveillance state: Communist China's plan for global tyranny revealed


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32 minutes

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171.80835

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Summary

In this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show, Dr. Stephen Mosher joins us to discuss his new book, "Bully of Asia: How China's Communist Party is the New Threat to World Order," and to discuss the Olympic Games in China.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hong Kong flu in 1968. It came from China. China didn't tell us they had a raging epidemic of a
00:00:05.460 new flu. It came to Hong Kong, then the world learned about it. If they have another pandemic
00:00:10.340 in China, the only thing we can be sure of is they will not tell us about it until it has become a
00:00:15.560 global pandemic. Hello and welcome to this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we
00:00:22.480 are going to be going into a whole series of interviews and special presentations regarding
00:00:29.100 human rights abuses in China, regarding the Olympics that are going on right now in that
00:00:34.480 country, despite their massive abuse of human rights. With us today is one of the real pioneers
00:00:41.160 in not only discovering but exposing the human rights abuses in China, particularly the one
00:00:47.220 child policy that was absolutely so horrendous. You're going to meet Stephen Mosher. You're going
00:00:51.460 to want to stay tuned.
00:00:59.100 Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father and of the Son
00:01:15.400 and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Steve Mosher, welcome to the program.
00:01:21.080 It's good to be here again, John Henry.
00:01:23.040 You have just re-released your book, Bully of Asia. Tell us a little bit about that.
00:01:28.120 Well, let me say, I've been watching China now for 45 years, which is to say two-thirds
00:01:33.080 of my lifetime. I resigned my commission in the U.S. Navy back in the 1970s. I went to the
00:01:38.940 Chinese University of Hong Kong to study Chinese. I speak, read and write Chinese, Mandarin, Cantonese,
00:01:44.620 and some Taiwanese, actually, because I've studied in all three Chinese areas. And I went to Stanford.
00:01:49.960 I was selected to be the first American social scientist on the ground in China back in,
00:01:54.340 I was there in March of 1989, very early on. So I've been watching with a increasingly jaundiced eye,
00:02:02.880 the misdeeds of the Chinese Communist Party for a long time now going on, as I say, a half century.
00:02:11.880 And as I, as the time has gone by, I've grown increasingly concerned on any number of fronts.
00:02:17.140 That's why I wrote the book, Bully of Asia. And of course, the subtitle is China's,
00:02:22.600 why China's dream is the new threat to world order. It's a threat because they want to fundamentally
00:02:26.940 overturn the existing world order and replace it with something very, very different, very much
00:02:33.480 darker, and very inimical to liberty, freedom of conscience, freedom of association,
00:02:40.360 all the freedoms that we hold dear.
00:02:41.800 What an incredibly interesting take you have with regard to what's going on in China,
00:02:47.840 because we see this sort of movement throughout the whole wide world toward communism,
00:02:52.100 a communism that's first seen in China. Tell us a little bit about that, your early writings on
00:02:58.360 LifeSite, actually, about the Chinese origin of the virus, as we now know it as COVID-19,
00:03:07.000 and how you came to that, and now that you've been proved correct.
00:03:11.280 It's been an interesting two years for all of us, I think. Interesting in the Chinese sense.
00:03:17.580 There's an ancient Chinese curse, which goes, may you live in interesting times. And the last two
00:03:23.400 years have been interesting times in that sense. We've all gone through a kind of COVID purgatory,
00:03:30.460 if not COVID hell, losing relatives, friends, getting sick ourselves, losing businesses,
00:03:36.520 unemployment rates skyrocketing, being quarantined, masks, prevented from sending our children to
00:03:43.900 school. I mean, the list of human rights abuses that have resulted from the pandemic
00:03:49.920 is almost endless as well. So early on, being a critic of China, being someone who has seen
00:03:57.860 human rights abuses up close and personal, I was obviously concerned that this had come from a
00:04:04.760 laboratory. So I began looking into the question. Way back in December of 2019, when the pandemic
00:04:12.480 was only a small cloud on the horizon, I was getting reports out of China of a new epidemic
00:04:18.820 breaking out. And by the end of January, I was convinced that it had come from the Wuhan Institute
00:04:25.900 of Virology. And, you know, I have a background, John Henry. I have an advanced degree in biological
00:04:30.940 sciences. I've worked in genetics before. It was a long time ago, but, you know, that knowledge stays
00:04:36.720 with you. And so I began to look at the studies of the novel coronavirus, as we were calling it then,
00:04:45.280 the World Health Organization calls it SARS-CoV-2, because there was a SARS-1, right, back in 2003.
00:04:52.500 And the interesting thing about SARS-1 is the Chinese Communist Party lied about that too.
00:04:56.880 They hid it for as long as they could. They didn't tell the world that a snake seller who was selling
00:05:03.260 snakes on the open market in the southern city of Guangzhou had become seriously ill with the new
00:05:10.400 virus. This was a virus that had killed 12 percent of the people it infected, very much more deadly
00:05:16.100 than the current serious flu that we're experiencing. And the Chinese Communist Party hid it for as long
00:05:23.020 as they could. So I was worried that they were hiding something this time, perhaps with the help of the
00:05:29.140 World Health Organization. And it turned out, yes, they were. Because if you look at the structure of the
00:05:35.540 virus itself, it has unusual insertions, which you never see in a natural coronavirus. I can't say that
00:05:44.200 often enough. This is the smoking gun. This is the evidence embedded in the genome itself
00:05:50.560 that tells you that this could not have come from nature, that this was artificially created in the
00:05:56.700 lab. So given that, and given the fact that they had the technology at the Wuhan Institute of
00:06:03.480 Virology to do this, and given, astonishingly enough, that we had actually handed over that
00:06:10.400 technology over the last few years, thanks to Dr. Anthony Fauci and his cutout, Richard
00:06:16.840 Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, we were funding and training the scientists at the Wuhan Institute of
00:06:25.360 Virology in this dangerous gain-of-function research to make existing coronaviruses more infectious
00:06:32.340 and more deadly. And we didn't know at the same time that the People's Liberation Army, at least
00:06:39.260 since 2017, had been involved in doing the same thing, taking gain-of-function research, making
00:06:46.060 viruses more deadly and more infectious, but not to advance the frontiers of scientific knowledge.
00:06:52.220 No, they were doing it to create weapons, bioweapons. And so in February, by February of 2020,
00:07:00.140 I had concluded and wrote on LifeSite News and other places that, yes, this came from the lab. All roads
00:07:07.340 led to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. All roads led to it have been a product of the lab. All roads
00:07:15.160 led to the fact that China, when it had an epidemic on its hands, decided to spread it throughout the
00:07:21.940 world. So one of the reasons why I decided to update Bully of Asia, because of this striking new
00:07:28.420 information, and everything that we've learned since then, about the dissembling of Peter Daszak and
00:07:36.180 Anthony Fauci early on, about the fact that they conspired together in February of 2020, to say that
00:07:45.080 those of us, like myself, who were saying it came from the lab, were nothing more than conspiracy
00:07:50.400 theorists. They were the ones who launched a conspiracy, John Henry. It was a conspiracy against the truth.
00:07:57.140 It was a conspiracy against the truth coming out about their funding and their support of the
00:08:02.940 research and the Wuhan Institute of Virology that was taken by the Chinese Communist Party and used to
00:08:08.580 cause millions of deaths and trillions of dollars in economic damage around the world that we're still
00:08:13.760 recovering from in our countries. Steve, you've got a very neat perspective because you have an
00:08:22.140 advantage on most of the world because you're able to speak and read these Chinese languages.
00:08:30.020 You found evidence for what you postulated even months before anybody else regarding the origin of
00:08:38.160 this virus in the lab. You're able to not only read the publications from China and the studies from
00:08:44.840 China. You have a history also of discovering things in China. I know many people, perhaps older
00:08:52.700 people in the pro-life movement, know your story about how you actually discovered the one child
00:08:57.960 policy in China and what your discoveries did to basically defund a lot of China from getting money
00:09:07.940 from the United States because of the discoveries you made. Do you mind telling us that story just
00:09:12.600 in a very short so people can get an appreciation of your involvement with China and how significant
00:09:18.460 it's been? I went to China in March of 1979. I was the first American social scientist on the ground.
00:09:25.100 I was in China for over a year and I made lots of friends in the Chinese commune I was living in.
00:09:31.620 I was also able to get rid of my communist minders who were sent after me to follow me and watch
00:09:38.480 everything I did and said and monitor everyone I talked to. I was able to get rid of them by the
00:09:45.280 simple expedient John Henry of not paying them. They expected to be paid and I said no I can speak
00:09:50.920 read and write Chinese. I don't need your minding, your interpretation, your eavesdropping, your spying.
00:09:56.340 I didn't say those words. So I began I made lots of friends in the local level and they began to tell
00:10:01.400 me of course the story of their lives and it was not a happy story under the misrule of the Chinese
00:10:06.620 communist party. Many people have been killed. Other people have been starved. Their land had
00:10:11.340 been taken away from them. They referred to the communist party as the big landlord because the
00:10:18.120 big landlord was was exploiting them. They knew that quite clearly and then the one child policy
00:10:23.460 began and I remember clearly in March 8th of 1980 the local communist party secretary who had also become
00:10:29.840 a friend of mine brought over a directive from the communist party saying that the population of
00:10:35.280 Guangdong province where I was studying that's the province adjacent to Hong Kong was growing too rapidly
00:10:40.660 and and so the population had to be capped at one percent and they went around house to house and
00:10:47.140 surveyed the village and found out which women were pregnant with second and third and fourth children
00:10:52.040 and all of those women were told they must have abortions. Those who refused were were arrested for the
00:10:58.220 crime of being pregnant. I actually have arrest warrants where uh in the block where you write
00:11:03.220 the crime that's that person's being arrested for is written the word pregnant. So they were taken
00:11:09.280 to the local seat of government. I went with them. Uh they were harangued and threatened for days and weeks
00:11:16.020 until one by one they all with their wills broken these young pregnant women these young pregnant moms
00:11:21.220 were taken sometimes by force uh to the local clinic where they were aborted. They were forced to lay
00:11:28.040 down on the operating table. They were given lethal injections into their wombs to kill their unborn
00:11:33.240 children. They were given if they were very late in pregnancy they were given cesarean sections
00:11:38.260 cesarean sections. They were literally cut open to to remove their now uh dead or dying babies. I was in the
00:11:45.680 operating room John Henry when this was going on. I saw the forced abortions. I saw the tears. I heard
00:11:52.500 the moans and cries of the women. I saw the forced sterilizations that followed the broken hearts and it
00:11:58.960 was of course as if the pit of hell had opened up before me. This was an absolute evil and that I could
00:12:05.640 never imagine any human being committing on another human pain. It went on for 36 long years. It resulted in
00:12:14.540 the deaths of 400 million unborn and newborn children in China. And over the course of that
00:12:21.120 four decades I fought not only to reveal what was actually happening in China because there were many
00:12:26.380 people in the west who denied that that that forced abortions were happening and there were others who
00:12:32.120 applauded believe it or not John Henry because they said well China's overpopulated what else can they
00:12:37.600 do? Well yeah they can they can overthrow the Chinese communist party restore freedom and then there would be
00:12:42.880 enough uh economic uh economic economic advance for everyone to be better off uh without having to
00:12:48.760 carry around the the the 92 million members of the communist party who produced nothing except tyranny
00:12:55.380 and are a dead weight on the rest of the Chinese people. So fought this battle in Washington DC. We were able
00:13:01.940 to cut the funding to the UN population fund. We had no funding going to China directly but we did have
00:13:08.820 money going to the UN population fund which in turn was giving 50 million dollars a year to China to
00:13:15.200 support its one child policy. We cut off that money under President Reagan. We kept the cutoff in place
00:13:20.740 under Bush one. Uh we fought hard under Clinton got some advances but he wanted to fund population control
00:13:26.860 so the spigot was turned on again. We cut it off under Bush and boy did we have success from 2016 to 2020
00:13:33.380 when we cut off population control spending uh almost across the board we stopped funding of
00:13:39.640 abortion. So this has been a decades-long battle uh that began with my experience in China when I saw
00:13:46.420 two things really one the the brutality that the Chinese communist party was capable of and is still
00:13:51.940 committing today against the Uyghur minority in the far west at the same time that they've decided
00:13:58.260 they have too few children in China and they're encouraging the Han Chinese to have two and three
00:14:03.940 children. They're forcibly aborting and sterilizing their minorities because they think they they have
00:14:10.520 too many children. They want they want to extinguish the minorities forever. That's why we call it
00:14:15.420 genocide. Uh this meets the technical definition of genocide in the genocide convention. Forced abortion and
00:14:21.660 sterilization is a crime against humanity. So they're still doing it. So that's my story John Henry
00:14:27.400 in a nutshell. So I've been following China for a long time. Written a dozen books about China including
00:14:33.100 of course uh the latest one we've been talking about Bully of Asia. Absolutely incredible. You were
00:14:39.460 accused of it being a conspiracy theory back then. History is repeating itself and you're seeing it again.
00:14:46.680 You're proved right the first time and it cost China thanks be to God and and helped women and
00:14:52.640 children in China and God willing you'll be you know this will be validated again and the world will
00:14:59.420 benefit from seeing China. I wanted to get to an important report remark that you made about in in
00:15:05.780 the beginning of the show about how China's vision and what they're hoping for the world what they're
00:15:12.140 creating in their own land hoping to export to the whole wide world. What do you see because I think
00:15:17.400 that provides a fascinating look at what we're experiencing what we're going toward in the world
00:15:23.220 today. People are calling it the great reset whatever you want to call it but what's what's
00:15:26.740 that vision there. Well the great reset is in one sense certainly as a China hand I see it this way
00:15:33.180 of taking the Chinese model of a high-tech digital dictatorship and imposing it on the rest of the
00:15:39.600 world and the imposition would not be done directly by the Chinese Communist Party but that would be used
00:15:45.280 as a model by the oligarchs who now think that because they have a lot of money that they are are
00:15:52.300 able to to ride the rest of us you know as uh and turn the rest of us into serfs and slaves and do their
00:15:58.800 bidding forever while all while being constantly monitored and surveilled and spied on by artificial
00:16:05.800 intelligence and and and by other high-tech means. Uh that's a model that was first developed in China what
00:16:11.500 they call it in China uh their social credit system it's actually more uh like a political credit
00:16:18.120 system because the Chinese Communist Party monitors everybody in real time using surveillance cameras and
00:16:24.360 artificial intelligence and they know where everybody goes what they spend their money on who they talk to
00:16:29.640 what they say on social media and from those interactions they calculate a political credit score for
00:16:37.880 everybody and if your political credit score is high because why because you say nice things about the
00:16:44.160 new red emperor Xi Jinping because you download the Xi Jinping app and every day study Xi Jinping
00:16:51.260 religiously for 30 minutes and answer the questions about the study session correctly uh if you say nice
00:16:58.580 things about the Chinese Communist Party and if you don't associate with people with critical views
00:17:03.240 then your political credit score goes up and you can fly on a plane from one Chinese city to another you
00:17:09.900 can even perhaps get a passport with an exit visa to travel outside of China uh you're given uh better
00:17:17.280 rates on uh interest rates on loans to buy a home or an apartment or a car on the other hand on the other
00:17:24.260 hand if you associate with people who are critical of the regime if you say on social media critical things
00:17:30.520 and have to be censored uh you're not allowed to fly even within China not allowed to leave the country
00:17:35.480 in fact you can't even take the high speed rail you have to speak if you want to go from Beijing to
00:17:40.040 Shanghai you take the uh the third class rail line that that stops at every podunk town between
00:17:46.020 Shanghai and Beijing takes a couple days to get there uh interest rates for loans and apartments are
00:17:51.140 high if you get one at all to get a loan at all and you know if your political credit score goes down too low
00:17:56.660 you get a visit from public security forces and they arrest you preemptively because you may be
00:18:03.440 already committing a thought crime and you may commit a real crime in the future so they better
00:18:06.940 re-educate you now so yeah it's a terrifying dark or welly and you know it doesn't begin to describe it
00:18:13.000 i mean because uh sure they were watching in George Orwell's 1984 through the television screen uh it's a lot
00:18:21.000 worse now they're watching through surveillance cameras they're watching through the smartphones that
00:18:25.480 everybody carries around um i found it interesting that our olympic athletes were told to leave their
00:18:30.920 smartphones at home and only use burner phones because there is an app that is downloaded uh
00:18:36.620 required to be downloaded when you get to China that basically gives the Chinese Communist Party
00:18:41.540 intelligence services a backdoor to download all the information off your phone and track you in
00:18:46.320 real time and and sort of meld you into this social credit system that we've been talking about
00:18:52.340 but take that view that dark vision of of what's happening in China right now and and spread it
00:18:58.720 over the entire world that's what the reset uh is all about and that's why we have to to go back
00:19:05.320 to the old normal and protect our privacy and protect our data otherwise we're going to be living under the
00:19:12.500 same kind of tyranny that we see in China today maybe not quite as overt but it will be a tyranny
00:19:18.700 nonetheless now one interesting aspect about China for sure but also creeping into the rest of the
00:19:24.560 world China has a particular hatred for religion particularly Christianity and Catholicism they are
00:19:31.960 refused parents are refused from taking children to church at all um and even if they do go they lose
00:19:39.120 their social credit scores um and then of course it's it's even a regulated Catholic so-called Catholic
00:19:45.740 church patriotic Catholic church tell us about that this is another reason why I wanted to expand
00:19:50.640 and publish a new edition of bully of Asia because the Chinese Communist Party has been very clear
00:19:56.100 about what the threats to its continued rule are okay there's a central committee directive dating back
00:20:03.060 from 2013 when the new red emperor by the way Xi Jinping took power in 2012-2013 and and this new
00:20:09.840 directive identifies seven threats to continued Chinese Communist Party rule so they've laid out
00:20:15.720 uh what the dangers to their continued rule are very interesting to read those uh threats uh two of the
00:20:21.980 threats by the way are uh an accurate history and an accurate recounting of the ideology of the Chinese
00:20:28.840 Communist Party in other words if you expose the lies that they tell about their own history and their
00:20:34.040 own ideology uh the lies like we're the vanguard of the proletariat one day the government is going to
00:20:39.120 wither away and everyone's going to live happily forever after if you expose those lies that's a
00:20:43.820 threat to the continued rule of the Chinese Communist Party they admit that but what about the other five
00:20:48.960 threats well the other five threats are a description of the kind of uh freedom uh that we enjoy in
00:20:56.980 democracies at least we hope we continue to enjoy we've seen that eroded away over the last two years
00:21:01.560 and among the threats that they list are the free market the idea that people should be free to buy and
00:21:07.280 sell things without government control uh they list the rule of law as a threat because the rule of law
00:21:12.800 means that communist officials can't make up the law as they go along change it from day to day to
00:21:18.120 benefit themselves and expropriate more and more wealth from the people that they rule and finally
00:21:23.720 the the very interesting one is civil society civil society is considered to be a deadly threat by the
00:21:31.500 Chinese Communist Party what is civil society well it's all the mediating institutions that protect
00:21:36.920 the individual from the exactions of the the state from the exactions of those in power uh including
00:21:44.560 included in civil society are things like the family and and voluntary organizations and of course the
00:21:50.220 biggest one of all is is religious freedom religious organizations which stand between the state and the
00:21:57.200 individual and claim of course as Catholics and Christians do that there are uh you can't just
00:22:03.720 make up the laws you go along that there are laws given by God we call those the the natural law and they
00:22:10.660 cannot be violated by any government by any official however powerful they want to destroy all of those
00:22:18.180 mediating institutions particularly particularly the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church
00:22:23.660 they regard as not only a threat to their expropriation of the masses of the work of the masses
00:22:31.080 it's it also has foreign connections John Henry because it's part of a universal church which goes beyond the
00:22:38.160 borders of China so they regard it as as fundamentally um betrayal of the loyalty that any any Catholic is
00:22:45.660 sort of betraying the loyalty that they owe to China and to the Chinese Communist Party and that's why I think
00:22:51.280 you're probably the best and we'll end it here but this this topic really gets complicated you yourself
00:22:57.860 are a Catholic so there's no animus against the Catholic Church so explain to us if you will what is
00:23:05.000 going on Pope Francis interestingly came to power that same year that China started this persecution 2013
00:23:10.740 but they have made these overtures and acceptance of the patriotic Catholic Church in China
00:23:19.060 in in a way no Catholic could ever have imagined before this particularly under JP2
00:23:24.700 um have you seen that what do you make of that the most generous interpretation of the Vatican's actions
00:23:31.740 or inactions in this case having to do with the persecution of the church in China which is
00:23:36.480 intensifying is simple ignorance that they they simply don't know what's going on in China
00:23:41.140 I find that kind of hard to believe because I myself went to the Vatican a couple of years ago sat down
00:23:47.620 with uh Cardinal Parolin and explained to him over the course of a long hour what was happening what
00:23:53.720 was coming down the pike where religious persecution in China was concerned I said there's a new law
00:23:59.120 in China which is causing the walls to close in on religious believers in China they're out and out
00:24:05.420 determined the Chinese Communist Party is determined to destroy the underground church those bishops and
00:24:11.440 priests in the underground church will either be forced to acknowledge the primacy of the Chinese Communist
00:24:16.380 Party over the primacy not just of the Pope but of God himself or they will be forced to to leave
00:24:22.660 active ministry altogether and if they continue to preach and teach they will be arrested in prison
00:24:28.140 and and worse so I think the Vatican knew very clearly what was happening in China because I told
00:24:35.400 the senior diplomat in in in the Vatican Foreign Service what was going to happen since then everything that
00:24:42.120 that I told him has happened the new religious regulations that have been put out um I describe
00:24:49.320 them as a way of hollowing out the Catholic Church the Patriot so-called patriotic church in China
00:24:54.500 and converting it into an instrument to be used by the Chinese Communist Party to destroy itself that's
00:25:00.440 the ultimate goal of the Chinese Communist Party is not to allow the church to operate within certain
00:25:05.320 parameters because if those parameters existed and if they were even if they were strict Catholics would
00:25:12.200 find a way to to propagate the faith to live their faith even under persecution we always have you know
00:25:18.600 I speak as a Catholic right but that's not the goal of the Chinese Communist Party the Communist Party is
00:25:23.940 intent upon using the structure of the patriotic church itself to extinguish that same church that's why you
00:25:29.960 have the leading bishops of the so-called patriotic church saying things like um we are loyal to the
00:25:37.160 party first and then to God now that reverses the natural order of things right Saint Thomas Moore said
00:25:43.640 I'm the I'm the king's good servant but I am God's first you have to put uh our heavenly father first in
00:25:50.040 the order of things uh otherwise uh you've abandoned you know the the the the principle of the faith so that's
00:25:58.040 what's being demanded of our brothers and sisters in China and the other regulations like uh you can't
00:26:03.480 bring children to church people are punished for trying to teach the faith to their own children
00:26:08.200 no one under 18 is allowed uh within the walls of a church there are surveillance cameras face
00:26:13.000 recognition technology and underground undercover agents in the church to make sure that rule is not
00:26:18.040 violated a priest cannot go out on the street and bless someone uh he cannot go to someone's home and
00:26:23.560 bless a home he cannot hold a a bible study outside of the walls of the church in fact the only thing
00:26:29.720 that's really permitted is is the mass the weekly mass all other religious activities are under strict
00:26:35.800 surveillance or if not shut down entirely so summer camps uh any educational outreach by the church is
00:26:42.360 forbidden orphanage that used to be run by the church uh they've all been shut down and on a personal
00:26:48.280 note uh you know i helped to start a couple of orphanages in china 20 years ago uh even though
00:26:52.920 we complied with the chinese laws those orphanages have now been effectively shut down because by their
00:27:00.200 very existence they call into question the ability of the chinese communist party to provide to be all
00:27:07.560 things to all people you see that's that's part of civil society and civil society the chinese communist
00:27:13.480 party says is a threat to continued communist party rule so even even good works like that done by
00:27:20.280 catholics have to be shut down in china uh because it's a threat to the the rule of the chinese communist
00:27:25.800 party uh this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better and i can believe i believe as a catholic
00:27:32.520 that catholics in china would be better off if the vatican if the pope who is one of the strongest
00:27:38.440 moral voices in the world would speak openly and directly about the suffering of our co-religionists
00:27:44.760 in china uh instead of well it simply goes unmentioned um we can we can talk apparently
00:27:52.280 in the vatican about human rights abuses in the united states about every other country in the world but
00:27:58.200 china seems to be off limits as someone who has studied china for nearly half a century you just
00:28:07.960 re-released a new release of your book bully vaja what is your statement to the heads of the olympics
00:28:17.000 for allowing the olympics to go on in a country that is so rife with human rights abuses first of all
00:28:23.880 china has an epidemic underway and we don't know what the cause of it is uh we've been told it it may
00:28:31.240 be a few cases of covet what variant we don't know delta omicron omicron is pronounced i'm a cold by the
00:28:37.480 the way omicron i'm a cold um or is it some new variant that we don't know about is it something
00:28:43.480 else is it a hemorrhagic fever uh we simply don't know the only thing we can be sure of is that the
00:28:49.480 chinese communist party is not telling us the truth because why why can we be sure of that because they
00:28:55.640 never tell us the truth john henry 1958 we had the asian flu where did it come from it came from china
00:29:02.760 china didn't tell us it had a flu until it escaped to other asian countries and we learned about it
00:29:07.720 hong kong flew in 1968 it came from china china didn't tell us they had a raging epidemic of a
00:29:13.080 new flu it came to hong kong then the world learned about it if they have another pandemic in china the
00:29:18.680 only thing we can be sure of is they will not tell us about it until it has become a global pandemic so
00:29:25.320 there is a threat to public health uh by holding the olympics in beijing should have been postponed
00:29:32.600 should have been moved to a venue that respects human rights and human freedom steve mosher you
00:29:37.960 are the man to launch our coverage of the human rights abuses in china which we're going to do every
00:29:44.760 day during these olympic games so that it becomes more known the absolute atrocities that are going on
00:29:51.720 there and the what is unconscionable the decision to hold the olympics games there thank you so much
00:29:59.640 steven and may god bless you god bless you john henry and god bless all of you we'll see you next time
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