The John-Henry Westen Show - FULL REPORT： Largest Catholic Health Network BETRAYS Church Teaching, Supports LGBT, Transgender Surgeries

00:00:00.000 The majority of the suicides come post-surgery or post-treatment because what the children realize

00:00:06.220 or what the young people realize is that they have done something irreversible to their bodies.

00:00:12.240 They have destroyed healthy reproductive systems, they have destroyed their genitals, 1.00

00:00:17.580 they have destroyed their breasts, and they can never get them back. 0.87

00:00:30.000 So, my friends, something very interesting happened, a real work of the Holy Spirit.

00:00:37.220 So, Michael Hichborn, whom you all know from the Ponto Institute, probably the premier researcher

00:00:42.200 in the pro-life world, in the Catholic world, he did a very in-depth study, I think 78 pages,

00:00:50.940 into a really horrific finding that a Catholic health center, the largest Catholic health center,

00:00:56.520 is actually involved in doing these transit surgeries, for children even, giving puberty

00:01:03.800 blockers for children, totally opposed to what the bishops came out with in March.

00:01:11.460 The committee, the theological committee of the U.S. Bishops' Conference, condemned that

00:01:15.700 kind of thing.

00:01:16.760 But then something weird happens.

00:01:18.540 So, the order is, the Bishops' Conference releases in March, Michael thinking, oh, that's

00:01:24.500 providential, because he was already doing that study, releases his in-depth study showing

00:01:28.380 that, lo and behold, the Catholic Hospital Association is involved in that very thing

00:01:34.160 that they shouldn't be doing.

00:01:35.860 But then the Bishops' Conference happens.

00:01:40.020 At the Bishops' Conference, Cardinals McElroy, Cupich, and Tobin, all, and not to mention

00:01:50.820 Bishop Sean McKnight as well, I have to throw that in there.

00:01:54.160 But they all want to stall the implementation of what came out in March already, that they

00:02:01.180 shouldn't be doing this.

00:02:02.060 In other words, they want to stall on stopping Catholic hospitals from abusing children like

00:02:07.640 that.

00:02:08.720 How do they do that?

00:02:10.140 Well, they do that by saying, oh, we need more dialogue.

00:02:13.260 So let's throw this down the road.

00:02:15.360 Let's delay it.

00:02:15.960 Let's wait, let's cancel it, but not by saying we're opposed, because that would be just too

00:02:20.540 much, but by saying we need dialogue.

00:02:22.820 That's a game, and we've got the expert here to talk about it.

00:02:25.880 This is the John Henry Weston Show with Michael Hitchborn.

00:02:28.520 Stay tuned.

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00:04:08.000 For LifeSite News, this is John Henry Weston.

00:04:10.100 May God bless you.

00:04:13.600 Michael Hichborn, welcome to the program.

00:04:15.200 Thanks so much, John Henry.

00:04:16.040 So, first of all, let's begin as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:04:21.000 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

00:04:24.900 Amen.

00:04:26.480 So, Michael, first of all, providence has shined on you once again.

00:04:29.800 I mean, the timing of all this is amazing.

00:04:32.600 Either you had a crystal ball, which you don't believe in, nor do I, or the Lord just sick

00:04:37.080 handled this perfectly.

00:04:38.340 Well, absolutely.

00:04:39.160 You know, the thing is, I intended to release this report earlier, and I kept looking for the

00:04:44.500 opportune time to release the report, and it just wasn't happening, and I couldn't

00:04:48.940 quite, I couldn't get things done in time to get it done at the beginning of June.

00:04:54.180 And as providence would have it, I released the report on Monday, and by Friday, the USCCB

00:05:00.540 had their vote.

00:05:02.640 Just unbelievable.

00:05:03.700 Okay.

00:05:04.300 So, many probably don't know about the study yet.

00:05:07.180 Give us some of the details.

00:05:08.500 First, an overview, and then we're going to go more in depth.

00:05:10.280 So, Common Spirit Health, which is the largest Catholic health system in the United States,

00:05:16.020 the second largest non-profit hospital system in the United States, is performing transgender

00:05:21.840 surgeries, it is providing hormone treatments for transgender nonsense, and it is providing 1.00

00:05:28.140 puberty blockers for kids.

00:05:29.960 On top of that, we found that they have health benefits packages for their employees that cover

00:05:35.660 the same, and they are giving money to one of their hospitals for sex change operations.

00:05:44.220 In fact, they actually helped to purchase a robotic machine that would assist in these

00:05:49.880 sex change operations.

00:05:52.140 And, of course, on top of this, they're very full in support of promoting transgender ideologies

00:05:57.920 and that kind of stuff.

00:05:58.740 So, I'm sorry to do this, but you've got to know how serious this is.

00:06:05.960 So, Governor DeSantis put out a clip or a little video to show what transgender surgeries

00:06:14.460 are all about.

00:06:15.640 Take a brief look.

00:06:16.700 I know it's gross, but you should know what we're talking about. 0.97

00:06:21.300 Transgender kids is a really harder thing. 0.94

00:06:23.740 What's going on in Florida is, as my mother would say, close to sinful. 0.55

00:06:30.560 I mean, it's just terrible what they're doing.

00:06:33.000 It's not like, you know, a kid wakes up one morning and says, you know, I decided I want

00:06:38.180 to become a man or I want to become a woman or I want to change.

00:06:41.600 I mean, what are they thinking about here?

00:06:46.380 They're human beings.

00:06:47.820 They love, they have feelings, they have inclinations that are, I mean, it just to me

00:06:52.840 is, I don't know, it's cruel.

00:06:57.320 And the way we do it is we make sure we pass legislation like we passed on same-sex marriage.

00:07:02.080 You mess with that, you're breaking the law, and you're going to be held accountable.

00:07:08.800 So, that insanity, which is just, that's beyond description.

00:07:15.360 You wouldn't do that to your worst enemy, let alone people who come in who are needing

00:07:22.440 help.

00:07:23.160 You know, they talk about the suicide rates among the trans community, and one of the 0.99

00:07:27.660 talking points that the trans community has is, well, you would rather have a living son 1.00

00:07:33.400 than a dead daughter, wouldn't you?

00:07:34.940 The problem is, the majority of the suicides come post-surgery or post-treatment, because

00:07:41.800 what the children realize or what the young people realize is that they have done something

00:07:46.600 irreversible to their bodies.

00:07:49.000 They have destroyed healthy reproductive systems. 0.95

00:07:52.460 They have destroyed their genitals. 0.99

00:07:54.440 They have destroyed their breasts. 1.00

00:07:58.000 And they can never get them back.

00:08:01.000 If you read the reports of people who are what they call post-trans, people that are trying 1.00

00:08:06.640 to detransition or come back to their, the sex that they actually are, they talk about

00:08:13.160 the horrors of the continuing surgeries that they have to undergo.

00:08:18.960 The children, they talk about these puberty blockers for kids.

00:08:22.500 And they say, well, you know, we're just going to pause puberty.

00:08:26.320 That's not what happens.

00:08:27.420 They get sterilized.

00:08:29.740 Those kids will not be able to have children of their own later on in life because of what

00:08:35.560 those blockers do to their reproductive development.

00:08:38.800 So all of the stuff regarding the trans community is a big lie.

00:08:43.760 And it's a big money lie.

00:08:46.580 And you think of how young they're starting this.

00:08:49.840 You can find all sorts of programs where it's lauded at two and three-year-old to recognize

00:08:54.620 that your son or daughter is already showing signs of gender dysphoria or whatever they

00:09:00.440 want to call it.

00:09:01.360 And therefore, well, we should delay it.

00:09:03.600 We'll just pause that right then and there.

00:09:06.000 And these little children, and they'll have to be able to decide for themselves.

00:09:08.820 No, you're going to sterilize them right now.

00:09:10.440 This is so demented.

00:09:13.500 It's unreal.

00:09:16.260 But as weird as that is, it's much more weird that they're doing it at Catholic hospitals 0.95

00:09:23.180 and that this is being funded by the largest Catholic healthcare network in the country.

00:09:29.940 Right.

00:09:31.280 So what we discovered as I was, the whole thing came from a tip.

00:09:36.660 Once the USCCB document on transgender surgeries came out, I got a tip that there were hospitals

00:09:43.200 that were pushing back on this saying, we're already doing top and bottom surgeries.

00:09:47.860 Don't make us stop.

00:09:49.880 And so the tip came in and I said, well, which hospital, which network?

00:09:53.960 And I didn't really get much of an answer.

00:09:55.860 So I started digging and what I discovered is that Dignity Health, which belongs to Common

00:10:01.140 Spirit, a little bit of background.

00:10:03.080 Common Spirit was formed in 2019 as a merge between the Catholic Health Initiative and Dignity

00:10:09.060 Health.

00:10:10.180 That merge brought Dignity Health into a Catholic health system.

00:10:17.300 They have a hospital called, it's blasphemously called St. Francis Memorial Hospital.

00:10:22.140 It is not a Catholic hospital, which is, I mean, that's perverted right up, right from 1.00

00:10:27.120 the get-go, but it is their transition surgery unit.

00:10:31.140 They have a policy that all of the hospitals within their system, if they don't perform

00:10:36.540 a service, whether it's a sex change operations or surgical sterilizations, they are to refer

00:10:43.720 to another hospital within network that does, including their Catholic hospitals.

00:10:49.320 So their Catholic hospitals, by policy, are required to refer to St. Francis Memorial Hospital,

00:10:56.060 which, by the way, got millions of dollars in funding from Common Spirit itself.

00:11:02.500 So, Michelle Critella did probably one of the best explanations of what this actually is.

00:11:13.900 Let's play this clip because you're going to see it.

00:11:15.620 If I were to say, doctor, I am suicidal.

00:11:20.700 I'm an amputee trapped in a normal body.

00:11:23.340 Please, surgically remove my leg.

00:11:25.660 I'll be diagnosed with body identity integrity disorder.

00:11:28.960 But if I walk up to that same doctor and say, I'm a man, sign me up for a double mastectomy,

00:11:35.360 my physician will.

00:11:36.840 See, according to most mainstream medical organizations, if you want to cut off a healthy arm or a healthy 0.99

00:11:44.120 leg, you're mentally ill. 1.00

00:11:46.660 But if you want to cut off healthy breasts or a penis, you're transgender. 1.00

00:11:53.020 Let's be clear. 1.00

00:11:54.060 No one is born transgender. 0.88

00:11:56.220 I, it's, I, this is, this whole field is so insane.

00:12:03.420 It, it's, it beggars the imagination.

00:12:05.860 What else did you find?

00:12:07.120 So, we also found that one of their other hospitals that was acquired through a recent

00:12:12.520 merge is called Virginia Mason Franciscan Health.

00:12:15.580 It's in Colorado, and it also is performing transgender surgeries, providing the puberty 1.00

00:12:21.400 blockers, and so forth.

00:12:22.800 We also discovered that other Catholic hospitals belonging to that network are prescribing every,

00:12:30.080 every type of contraceptive, including abortifacients, and Virginia Mason Franciscan Health

00:12:37.900 performing elective abortions as well.

00:12:41.520 And funded by a Catholic health care service.

00:12:45.580 Well, it's, the funding comes from the, the services that they provide.

00:12:51.500 So, you know, they, they get it from the insurance companies and that kind of thing.

00:12:55.060 Uh, but they also do fundraisers.

00:12:57.140 They're, they're registered as a 509A3, which means they are a subsidiary of another charity.

00:13:04.540 And that charity is the Catholic health care federation.

00:13:08.260 The Catholic health care federation is what, is what's called a public juridical person.

00:13:13.700 It's what in the United States we would call a corporation, but that public juridical person

00:13:19.480 in canon law has the same authority as a diocese or religious order.

00:13:25.300 It is considered not just an aspect of the Catholic church.

00:13:29.080 It is the Catholic church.

00:13:30.820 And through that common spirit health is getting its Catholic identity.

00:13:35.600 Now, what's interesting is that the, um, the merged documents between CHI and, and dignity

00:13:41.540 health show that there were carve out clauses that allow for non-Catholic hospitals to continue

00:13:48.540 to perform surgical sterilizations and things that are completely antithetical to the faith.

00:13:52.560 But I'm, you know, from a moral standpoint, you can't put a legal barrier under the auspices

00:13:59.800 of something that belongs to the moral realm of the Catholic church and still say that

00:14:05.760 it is, it has its integrity with the Catholic faith.

00:14:08.380 It doesn't work that way.

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00:14:55.880 So what can be done here?

00:14:58.840 Your appeal was to the bishops.

00:15:01.040 Obviously, they have screwy things going on with the bishops.

00:15:03.520 Anyway, that decision that they should have made, should it have gone forward, would it

00:15:09.280 have had an effect here?

00:15:11.240 Which does, you mean?

00:15:12.000 The USCCB had not Cardinal Cupich and Tobin and McElroy and Bishop Sean McKnight said,

00:15:19.120 no, no, we need more.

00:15:20.280 Had they voted and said, more consultation.

00:15:23.260 Had they voted properly and said, no, obviously you can't be a Catholic hospital and offer these

00:15:28.180 services.

00:15:28.780 They're against man.

00:15:30.220 They're against God's law.

00:15:31.320 They're violating these human persons.

00:15:33.480 We can't do that.

00:15:34.280 We're Catholic.

00:15:34.880 Well, how can they possibly say that we need to consult doctors to talk about Franken-science

00:15:40.380 where they are destroying healthy body parts?

00:15:44.060 The Hippocratic Oath starts with, first, do no harm.

00:15:48.740 But what the trans movement is all about is destroying healthy reproductive systems, destroying 1.00

00:15:53.680 genitals, and destroying aspects of the body and the human integrity itself.

00:15:59.380 They are working on attacking the Imago Dei.

00:16:02.260 It is not just anti-Catholic.

00:16:05.420 It is satanic what they're doing.

00:16:09.220 Explain that a bit.

00:16:10.360 You say against the Imago Dei.

00:16:13.380 What do you mean there?

00:16:14.240 The Imago Dei, the image of God.

00:16:16.100 When they perform these surgeries, they're saying that God is trans or God can be transitioned

00:16:24.520 from one nature to another.

00:16:26.260 This isn't the case.

00:16:27.360 God created us in his image and likeness as we are.

00:16:32.260 And in order to transition somebody from a male to a female or, I mean, even from a 0.81

00:16:38.640 person to a machine or a person to an animal, they are trying to destroy what is the image

00:16:47.420 of God.

00:16:48.560 The book of Isaiah tells us that Lucifer said to himself, I will rise to the heights of

00:16:54.880 the heavens.

00:16:55.500 I will become like God.

00:16:58.400 It's a statement of transition.

00:17:00.680 Lucifer was the first trans being, and then he fell. 1.00

00:17:04.160 And then when he fell, he went to the Garden of Eden.

00:17:06.460 What did he say to Eve?

00:17:07.820 He said, oh, you're not going to die.

00:17:10.660 You will become like gods, plural.

00:17:14.920 He already knew she was created in the image and likeness of God.

00:17:17.820 He couldn't trick her on that point.

00:17:19.440 So he was saying, no, you'll become like one of us.

00:17:22.000 So it's another statement of transition.

00:17:25.280 So the whole ideology of the trans movement is Luciferian and satanic at its core. 1.00

00:17:32.420 One of the things that Benedict always said is God made us male and female.

00:17:37.760 He created them.

00:17:39.220 And this movement seems to attack that very thing.

00:17:43.680 Absolutely.

00:17:45.420 So when somebody says that they can have a gender-fluid ideology or a gender-fluid identity,

00:17:52.620 one of the things that came out of the bishop's document from March, it says that it's not

00:17:57.780 as if there is a duality within man, that there is an incongruity between their soul and

00:18:04.680 their body, that you can have the wrong soul in a particular body.

00:18:09.140 Your body is, or your soul is the form of the body.

00:18:14.240 So your soul informs the matter of your body to be what it is.

00:18:19.240 So there is no incongruity.

00:18:21.720 And the idea that there could be is a lie.

00:18:25.320 So the pushback you're going to get is what about hermaphrodites?

00:18:29.520 There is a congenital disorder known this way.

00:18:32.980 And this is a thing where sometimes people are born with odd sex characteristics.

00:18:41.160 So sometimes it's more simple than others.

00:18:43.960 But there is such a thing.

00:18:45.660 Can you explain any of that to us?

00:18:47.200 So hermaphrodism is, there is an aspect of two genitals when an individual is born. 0.63

00:18:54.060 That's because there is a genetic mutation that takes place in the generative process as

00:18:59.920 the child is developing in the womb.

00:19:02.720 But one is dominant.

00:19:04.440 So it's not as if they are both.

00:19:06.740 They are not.

00:19:07.900 There is always one dominant trait that overshadows the other.

00:19:12.420 What causes that genetic mutation is something that's unknown.

00:19:15.800 But it's not as if the soul of that person is both sexes.

00:19:20.700 It is one.

00:19:21.840 And if you look at the genetics of the individual, it's not as if they have a genetic makeup that

00:19:27.860 indicates that they're both sexes.

00:19:29.280 They are one or the other.

00:19:31.680 And that's fairly clear.

00:19:33.960 You know, male XY, female XX. 1.00

00:19:36.540 And they're able to test that.

00:19:37.920 Why is it that doctors, when they had hermaphrodism, or sometimes it was like really simple, you

00:19:46.340 know, there was just some, doctors would say, oh, to the parents.

00:19:52.200 Well, would you like a boy or a girl?

00:19:53.500 Because you could decide for yourself.

00:19:54.680 We can fix that.

00:19:56.440 I don't even know what to say to that.

00:19:57.680 I mean, the very idea that doctors can play God and try and manipulate a child within the

00:20:04.360 womb is monstrous to me.

00:20:06.280 I don't even know how to wrap my head around that.

00:20:09.820 So what have you done now to try and create awareness about what's gone on?

00:20:15.840 And what would you suggest people do to help fight this?

00:20:19.180 Well, we produced our 64-page report.

00:20:21.360 And we brought it forth to the public as much as we could.

00:20:26.060 We want to make sure that everybody understands that not only is this taking place, but it's

00:20:30.720 taking place under the auspices of the Catholic Church.

00:20:33.200 And it cannot be.

00:20:34.360 It's completely incontinent with the Catholic Church.

00:20:37.560 There's no way it can be considered Catholic.

00:20:39.940 The bishops have an obligation before God to not only demand that their Catholic hospitals

00:20:48.100 in no way participate in this, but then to turn to the Vatican and say, because your

00:20:54.140 dicastrian Rome is the authority by which this organization has its Catholic identity, we

00:20:59.640 are calling upon you to strip this organization, Common Spirit Health, from its Catholic identity,

00:21:06.620 make sure it is not allowed to call itself Catholic.

00:21:09.940 And if that means that they don't have any Catholic hospitals, then so be it.

00:21:14.960 But we can't have some entity within the church acting in the name of the church and doing these

00:21:21.900 monstrous things.

00:21:23.120 And because that is happening right now, I think that the other thing that has to happen is the

00:21:28.640 bishops need to lead public acts of reparation and penance, because the punishment for this

00:21:35.420 kind of thing is going to be terrible.

00:21:38.580 This is violating children.

00:21:42.980 That's one thing I can't even understand.

00:21:44.660 They're actually giving these drugs to children, harming them permanently.

00:21:49.060 But then the absolute devastation.

00:21:51.420 Let's take a look at this clip.

00:21:52.620 This is from one of the detransitioners that Michael mentioned. 0.72

00:21:56.780 Just take a look at the devastation.

00:22:00.560 I just had this sense that if if I could inhabit life as like a trans man, as a man, then I

00:22:09.640 wouldn't feel so self-conscious.

00:22:11.500 I was thinking that it would make me feel very free.

00:22:15.400 Grace says she found a gender therapist on the Internet and told her, I'm thinking of transitioning.

00:22:22.400 She thought it all sounded pretty good.

00:22:23.920 Did the therapist not question you about how deep the feeling was and what it was stemming

00:22:31.400 from?

00:22:32.600 She didn't go really go into what my gender dysphoria might have been stemming from.

00:22:39.580 We only did a few sessions.

00:22:42.080 Because she was over 18 and didn't need parental consent. 0.99

00:22:46.260 She says she merely signed an informed consent form at a clinic and got hormone shots.

00:22:51.900 They asked me, so why do you want to go on testosterone?

00:22:55.380 And I said, well, being a woman just isn't working for me anymore.

00:22:59.020 And they said, OK.

00:23:00.780 So that was that.

00:23:01.800 You got your prescription for testosterone.

00:23:04.220 Mm hmm.

00:23:05.360 Yep.

00:23:06.220 Just four months after she started testosterone, she says she was approved for a mastectomy,

00:23:12.540 what's called top surgery that she told us was traumatic.

00:23:16.160 You know, I'm kind of surprised because based on everything you've said up to now, I would

00:23:22.520 have thought you'd have a great sense of relief.

00:23:25.460 I started to have a really disturbing sense that like a part of my body was missing almost

00:23:31.280 a ghost limb feeling about being like there's something that should be there.

00:23:35.400 And the feeling really surprised me.

00:23:37.180 But it was really hard to deny.

00:23:38.960 And so she detransitioned by going off testosterone and then went back to the clinic and she says

00:23:47.360 complained to the doctor that the process didn't follow the WPATH guidelines.

00:23:52.820 I can't believe that I transitioned and detransitioned, including hormones and surgery in the course 0.99

00:23:58.360 of like less than one year.

00:24:00.160 It's completely crazy.

00:24:02.140 It greatly concerns me where the field has been going.

00:24:05.200 I feel like what is happening is unethical and irresponsible in some places.

00:24:13.840 Michael, any final thoughts for us on what's going on?

00:24:16.600 And you report, you know, with regard to that young lady that you were just talking about,

00:24:20.460 the one of the stories that came out of Common Spirit Health, they have their own podcast

00:24:26.860 that they call the Ethics Lab.

00:24:29.080 I mean, it's it's a very ironic name considering what they're doing is unethical.

00:24:33.580 They had an episode titled Transgenderism and they interviewed a bunch of different individuals

00:24:40.980 that were actually affiliated with Common Spirit Health promoting their transgender health and

00:24:45.340 their trans affirming health care.

00:24:49.540 One of them told the story of a 15 year old girl that they helped to transition to a boy

00:24:56.760 and they said that the the person that was the most resistant was her mother and they had

00:25:03.120 to bring the mother along and through the process of bringing her mother along, who was extremely

00:25:09.480 resistant in the beginning, was then overjoyed at the end because they programmed her to accept

00:25:16.040 the idea that what they were doing was OK.

00:25:17.900 What that does is more horrible, I think, than just the idea of doing these surgeries themselves

00:25:26.100 because they are destroying the souls and the identities of individuals and they're destroying

00:25:32.380 the family unit itself by telling these parents that what they're doing is a good.

00:25:37.340 It's a terrible, terrible thing.

00:25:39.140 We have to stand against that.

00:25:40.640 And I urge people, read the report, call your bishops, do whatever it takes in order to make

00:25:46.960 this stop.

00:25:49.620 Michael Hitchborn, thank you for your reporting as always.

00:25:53.460 Incredible, incredible research and blessed by the Lord in terms of its timing every time.

00:25:58.400 Michael Hitchborn, so good to be with you.

00:25:59.900 Thanks so much, Don Henry.

00:26:00.940 God bless you.

00:26:01.800 All right.

00:26:02.720 And God bless all of you.

00:26:04.720 And we'll catch you next time.

00:26:05.600 Hi, everyone.

00:26:16.820 This is John Henry Weston.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - June 29, 2023

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