When Jordan Peterson had a conversation with Dave Rubin, it had reverberations all over the world. People who do admire him were stunned at what he said. One of those people is a great family activist in Germany. Her name is Gabriella Kubi and she is the author of many books. She has suffered a lot to defend the family and for that she has been persecuted in her own country. She had words for Dr. Peterson, which we published with great honor at Life Site News, and she s here to discuss that, as well as her new book, The Abandoned Generation.
00:14:07.280With tweets like this, he will just be excluded and lose his 2 million followers, which he still has masses of followers on YouTube and elsewhere.
00:15:04.200And I was not only shocked, I was deeply disappointed because I want somebody to stand up.
00:15:11.760I want to look to somebody who in this world stays sane and says the right thing and does not bow down to this absolutely mad, so-called woke ideology.
00:15:24.120By the way, a year ago, nobody knew the word woke.
00:16:04.200Marriage is the union of, he says, two people.
00:16:07.600But it's a union and has never been anything else in human history.
00:16:11.440But the union of a man with a woman, maybe more than one woman, but man and woman, open to give life to children and forming the social structure for family and the raising of children.
00:16:27.260He says marriage is the union of two people to provide the foundation of children.
00:16:35.220How is that possible for a professor of psychology, for a union analyst, how is it possible that he says sentences like this and rolls out the red carpet for his close friend and very nice man, Dave Rubin, to legitimize gay marriage and gay parenting?
00:17:00.760Why is he says that he says sexual rights and gay marriage and gay marriage and gay marriage and gay marriage and gay marriage and gay marriage and gay marriage?
00:17:03.340I have no answer which makes sense to me.
00:17:07.720And what I write in these age pages, I'm convinced he must know, he always presents himself.
00:17:13.980The data show the data tell us he has the overview of the whole of science.
00:17:19.220he knows that children need a father and a mother and it makes me speechless that he he sacrifices
00:17:29.780his title of the essay published two two days before was we are sacrificing our children
00:17:39.800on the altar of a brutal far left ideology yes this is what we are doing and we are doing it
00:17:49.200with gay marriage and artificial reproduction jordan peterson knows so why is he doing that
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00:18:21.860you said something very interesting there you said for his friend a very nice man
00:18:32.120and i think there's something there you've had to do this in your life but you see it all the time
00:18:40.660the foes if you will that we confront when we have differences in faith in ideology in in in fact if
00:18:51.460you will on these issues of grave importance in the world it is difficult for some people because
00:18:59.360they're confronting family they're confronting friends who are really really nice people how do
00:19:05.840they reconcile having to disagree where those disagreements might cost them even the relationship
00:19:12.600because there's such fundamental opposition to what they're saying in terms of protecting life or
00:19:18.040protecting family how do we go about that anyway despite the potential losses in the face of really nice
00:19:27.480people whom we love? Dave Rubin is a friend to Jordan Peterson who did him great services yeah he
00:19:33.920traveled around with him for for a year and presenting his book 12 rules for life but would a man like
00:19:42.380Jordan Peterson who is focused on knowledge who is focused on insight who is focused on on understanding
00:19:50.140I must understand this go as far as my understanding reaches things like this he says
00:19:56.100would he really sacrifice his understanding as a psychologist who knows that a child needs
00:20:04.600triangulation father mother child would he sacrifice this for that friendship is that the the bone out of
00:20:13.740which he is made out what yeah it's hard for me to to believe that he has a he's faithful to his wife he he met her in
00:20:22.680kindergarten or in school or something he seems to love her dearly he knows what marriage is he has two
00:20:29.000children he's a professor of psychology it doesn't make sense to me that he would do it because of his
00:20:37.880friend yeah is what is there something else in the background for us of course in the sexual revolution
00:20:45.780of our society it is extremely difficult how to deal with if that comes up in our own family environment
00:20:55.180if I had a son marrying a man what would I do what I do not want to lose my son I would continue to love my son
00:21:05.940but I would say and demand that they listen to me and I would not I would I'm not in the situation
00:21:16.440but I don't think I would go to the so-called marriage but there's this terrible friction within
00:21:23.220families and it really puts it puts us in into decisions which we would rather not have
00:21:29.440have to make I don't have to make it but many people do and we want to stay in good terms with
00:21:36.220our loved ones yeah and we still have to stay inwardly in good terms even if we make clear what
00:21:45.660the truth is and to move on this narrow line where truth and love are united that's our call as
00:21:57.400christians and that is difficult to do tell us about the abandoned generation in fact what
00:22:04.360jordan peterson is doing he and his friend dave rubin who with his so-called husband uh now probably
00:22:14.800it says the due day is the 22nd of august the due day of artificial reproduction
00:22:21.260is they will now have two babies in their home which are produced with donut eggs bought eggs
00:22:30.580and they're delivered with by surrogate mothers this is an abandoning this is one aspect of abandoning a
00:22:42.480child and if you allow I would like to go into a few details of artificial reproduction again
00:22:50.820again how can a man like jordan peterson agree to that and just say well you dave rubin and your
00:23:02.160husband he actually talks of his husband have technical difficulties technical difficulties in becoming
00:23:10.540parents may I just speak about these technical difficulties you have to get an if you are two men
00:23:19.320the the case is different for two women if there are two men who want to have children because they
00:23:25.540want a family which is such a deep urge in the heart of every human being and Dave Rubin says he had
00:23:34.340had a john peterson talk about how important it is to have a family how important is to have somebody else
00:23:42.660who is more important than yourself to care for to become a mature human being so Dave Rubin said yes
00:23:50.460I want that because I do not want to end quote more or less quote by memory as one of these homos aging
00:23:59.000homosexuals who just chase after sexual experiences beyond any human norm he says he didn't want to
00:24:10.220become that kind of person so you wanted a family you need to have an egg donor or two egg donors if you want
00:24:18.340to have two children to force the body of a woman to produce eggs by intensive and high level hormone intake
00:24:27.000is a terrible odyssey and women who have gone through it tell you about it how awful it is
00:24:35.560in the process to have finally one egg or two eggs which are frozen by 196 degrees minus
00:24:46.520transferred to a surrogate mother who is probably maybe in the ukraine because the ukraine is one of the
00:24:54.020centers of surrogate motherhood and implanted
00:24:57.680about 20 embryos have to die until you have one embryo which is actually alive and can be implanted
00:25:10.180in the uterus of a surrogate mother who rents out her uterus for for for gay gay for couples gay couples
00:25:25.060who want to have a child this baby is growing in her uterus the mother surrogate mother for the
00:25:35.820eight or nine months always has to say no contact no contact no contact to that child otherwise it will
00:25:42.660be extremely painful to deliver the child by cesarean usually and put it on the very moment it is is in
00:25:51.540has seen the light of day into the hands of two men so this baby grows up in loneliness already in the
00:26:02.700uterus of the surrogate mother and we know from the from research of what happens in pregnancy that there is
00:26:13.520an intricate and intimate relationship between embryo and mother and that the basic tone of existence of the baby
00:26:23.860is formed by the by the psychology of the mother so what are we doing to a child at the very very very
00:26:34.000beginning of its life this is one way of abandoning a child and john peterson and dave rubin never in this
00:26:46.720interview of an hour and a quarter never talk about the interests of the child so this we are sacrificing
00:26:55.240children on the altar of a brutal far left ideology why does this only apply to transgender to cutting off
00:27:06.240the breasts of puberty girls which is now as we all know explosive why does it not apply to what we do
00:27:14.220to children who grow up in a surrogate mother then are brought up by two gay men in the gay community
00:27:22.120they're robbed of the most fundamental human right of the human being and that is the human right to their
00:27:32.560biological father and mother and humanity fairy tales the whole memory of humanity knows that
00:27:42.180depriving losing father or losing mother is a terrible severe blow of fate and now we are doing this
00:27:52.100on the altar of a far left ideology and john peterson peterson goes along you're asking about my book
00:28:00.060the abandoned generation by the way today i got it from the mail it arrived here yeah this very day
00:28:08.740it's published by augustine's press and this is just one aspect of abandoned children i've written
00:28:17.78013 chapters how we abandoned children i was motivated to do that because i looked at the statistics
00:28:26.960of what children the the emotional physical and psychological state of children in our time
00:28:34.940and that is absolutely deplorable in some parts of germany more than a third of all children are in
00:28:45.160therapeutic treatment and they have physical and they have psychological huge problems this has
00:28:53.560incredibly increased through the lockdown policy because service of in austria i saw 62 percent of the
00:29:03.400children between i don't know five and 17 have severe depression 62 percent they cut themselves they're
00:29:13.160suicidal suicidal suicides have gone up like this you as the psychiatric hospitals for children are overflowing
00:29:21.300they can only take acute suicidal children because they're simply full yeah so why are we not allow
00:29:32.640alarmed why do we see every evening in the news so many cases of covid although nobody cares any any more
00:29:39.820about it why do we not see the statistics of children who are in a deplorable state and are we not aware
00:29:51.640that children are our own future that these children with severe psychological and physical handicaps
00:30:03.280will be the ones who will be the ones who have to sustain democracy who have to sustain freedom
00:30:10.020how will they do it yeah and so i read these these numbers of a new chronic morbidity i they talk about
00:30:21.200and i look when i walk around and look into the faces of the young generation and you see an emptiness
00:30:30.300and you see a sadness and you see them in their phone which of course is one chapter what the
00:30:36.420smartphone does to young people and the internet addiction and so on so i sat down and wrote this
00:30:43.800book a couple things for you too first of all where can people get the book amazon and i said i hope
00:30:49.940it's not amazon it should be if it's on now in a few days and of course at augustin's purse where can
00:30:56.040people learn more about you i do have a website gabriele minus kubi dot de but it's only in german
00:31:03.800i always want to also have an english yes and finally gabriele what are you up to now just published a new
00:31:10.240book a small book it's called propaganda the myth of democracy again actually the motivation was because
00:31:18.420i'm invited to give a talk about the subject and then i put down my thoughts and started the
00:31:22.920some literature some literature is a huge subject you could do a thesis doctorate on it it's a huge
00:31:29.540subject but i looked at to the at the important contributors of theory and practice of propaganda
00:31:37.280propaganda is highly sophisticated in our times and there's one chapter of course on social media
00:31:46.900the methods of manipulating our consciousness is are incredible and more sophisticated than they have
00:31:58.280ever been and the lgbt lobby turning this society upside down and coming to a place where now in
00:32:09.480germany every public building in catholic bavaria once catholic bavaria is flagged with rainbow flag
00:32:16.780they achieved that they achieved it through the methods on the one side of propaganda
00:32:23.760on the other side on very very severe pressure harassment and and threatening and in fact not only
00:32:35.240threatening but carrying out the ruining of existence of people ruining the existence of people who resist
00:32:41.680well there's one thing interesting and i think we share that with life said news i share that with life said news
00:32:47.880and why i'm thankful for your work do we openly give testimony for our faith in jesus christ do we do that
00:32:58.120or do we hold back and we have all the arguments are on our side faith and reason are not separated
00:33:07.440they are one so we can make our case easily without referring to faith it's no problem yet the people who i observe
00:33:17.780in this battle are nearly all christians who actually take the risk who actually go out and stand at the front and go into
00:33:27.800this battle but nevertheless christians who do that brave battle very often hold back with giving testimony with pride with the good pride yes i'm a christian and it is important to me and i must
00:33:51.260stand stand stand up for the for the for the for the truth i believe in and for the truth for which i have all the arguments on my side
00:34:00.040and christians withhold it and with this book i gave it to the manuscript to a good friend he's a psychiatrist
00:34:09.220philosophically very educated works on our side
00:34:13.900and he said gave me the advice leave out your testimony for christ because the book at the end
00:34:23.280i say i believe and i do believe it that our only real rock on which we can stand is jesus christ
00:34:35.320and if we do not stand on it we will fall sooner or later and maybe history drives to that point
00:34:44.860where every human being will have to make a decision i think this is quite possible
00:34:50.480and so i think we must admit it and one reason why we are so weak is because we don't
00:34:58.540and the the our foes are the the cultural revolutionists have not the slightest hindrance to put out the most
00:35:10.000radical and mad demands i talk about the yoga kata principles where everything is laid out
00:35:18.140nobody will be able to say we didn't know the the totalitarian change of society is perfectly and point
00:35:25.920by point laid out they put it all in front they say change the language change the state
00:35:31.760the the state has 111 obligations to to change the state according to lgbt ideology and we hold back
00:35:41.560we hold back i came across a word of the genius nicolas gomez davila who has this writes these
00:35:52.940aphorisms i have it here in german the word respects only the christians who does not say i'm sorry
00:36:00.780to be a christian you know our opposition our our foes know exactly when we are not at the front
00:36:10.060when we are careful with our wording because we might be rejected they know it and they realize it
00:36:18.140immediately and if we do that it means we retreat from the front we are behind the front and i think
00:36:26.620this is just what jordan peterson is doing he wants to be a hero he says he asked us to be heroes
00:36:33.420ourselves but he will not go through the front and if we are in a war so it is legitimate to use war
00:36:43.740or concepts if we decide we will not stand at the at the front but just a little bit behind
00:36:51.220that's our principle we always be a little bit behind because we protect ourselves it just means
00:36:57.660that we can be moved along and this is what is happening the culture the christian culture is collapsing
00:37:03.380this is just what is happening now and jordan peterson does that and it's so sad
00:37:09.340and you don't praise god because i think in offering people what we could as professionals
00:37:16.620in psychology sociology all the sciences where we can give them help to overcome abnormalities
00:37:25.020disorders of one kind or another but if we hold back and refuse from the our peers our society
00:37:35.620the fullness of truth if we hold back on the ultimate cure on the ultimate gift it is what's
00:37:44.620going to harm society and us in the long run because we're refusing to give in charity in love
00:37:51.520to our brothers and sisters what we know will help them the most thank you so much gabriele for all that
00:37:57.260you've done and we're so glad to have a fighter there in germany thank you john henry i'm glad of
00:38:02.880your fight with life site news all over the world thank you very much god bless you and god bless all
00:38:08.560of you and we'll see you next time hi everyone this is john henry weston we hope you enjoyed this video
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