Brandon Showalter is a Christian journalist and host of Generation Indoctrination, a podcast that focuses on the growing problem of transphobia within the Christian community. In this episode, Brandon talks about how he became interested in the issue and how he started his podcast.
00:00:00.000This is intentionally damaging the body in pursuit of a physiological impossibility.
00:00:08.100This is surgery in pursuit of a lie. And the pictures will send you into apoplexy.
00:00:21.980Hey, my friends, I'm sure you've all heard a lot about the trans ideology.
00:00:25.700You know, you've seen the women's sports being taken over by men.
00:00:28.880You've seen the complaints of women when men end up in women's change rooms.
00:00:32.600You've seen what goes on in the classroom with, you know, teachers trying to indoctrinate children into this bringing in, you know, these these drag queens for story hours.
00:00:43.160And this this total distortion, you've seen politicians say that, you know, define a woman, even Supreme Court justices.
00:01:56.680So, Brandon, why don't you start with telling us a little bit about yourself and how did you get here into this topic?
00:02:04.840I started as a journalist in the summer of 2016.
00:02:10.540And interestingly enough, my first day on the job during my trial period was the day after that horrific massacre at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.
00:02:19.34051, I think 50 men were killed in cold blood.
00:02:26.820And so right from the jump, I was thrown into covering all of these LGBT related issues, particularly the church's response to that massacre.
00:02:34.860I remember writing an article about that, and somehow that just kind of morphed as the days and weeks went by.
00:02:42.500And I started to see how everything had pivoted from LGB issues.
00:02:49.340And this was about a year after Obergefell ruling came down where it legalized same-sex marriage nationwide.
00:02:55.000Things were suddenly all about the trans and queer and all of the other letters that keep being added.
00:03:02.720And so it was just, this was not something that I had ever intended to cover, but it just kind of, that's the way it happened.
00:03:11.120And I started to realize how the media was completely captured ideologically.
00:03:16.080I would read mainstream sources and I would see phrases such as assign the wrong sex at birth or using she to describe males.
00:03:25.100And I couldn't even keep it straight what I was reading.
00:03:29.900And then it really hit me that, oh no, this is an ideology that's being portrayed as normal and good and objectively true.
00:03:40.820And the confusion was, as I often have said, a feature, not a bug of the ideology.
00:03:46.080And the more I researched, then I realized how it had infected the medical industry and that they were actually putting children on experimental drugs, such as puberty blockers, and then followed on by cross-sex hormones and surgeries.
00:04:01.120And when I learned about how this had affected young people medically, that's when something inside me just kind of broke.
00:04:09.200And I knew that I, as a Christian and a journalist, had to write about this critically.
00:04:14.080And in 2017, the publication I worked for, the Christian Post, did an article series, and this became one of my main beats, as we say, in the news business.
00:04:24.480But as time has gone by, we have continued to just sound the alarm.
00:04:29.680And as a publication have been very much a bulwark against gender ideology as a whole, but we believe that the most egregious harm is being done to children, teenagers, young adults, and their families.
00:04:43.120And that led us to do our documentary-style investigative podcast, the first season, which started in the fall of 2022.
00:04:51.760Second season was the e-book that I co-authored.
00:04:54.460We did an audio book of that for season two.
00:04:56.220And we have just finished season three of this documentary-style podcast series, all of which is available on our landing page at generationindoctrination.com, wherever you get your podcasts.
00:05:53.980You're correct that this seems so outlandish and crazy that it's as though people have this analysis paralysis about them when you tell them, even when you show them original source material.
00:06:06.460But in hospitals all across this country and in Canada, I'm an American and you're in Canada, it's atrocious.
00:06:14.720This ideology has been mainstreamed from the top down.
00:06:18.420This is, you know, social engineering from people in high places, very wicked, ideologically captured.
00:06:31.680But just I'll talk about what's happening to children, but give a little bit of history so that I can provide some context.
00:06:39.580But this migrated across the Atlantic from the Netherlands, which is where the first well-known case report of doctors using a puberty blocking agent to halt the normal developmental process in a gender-confused teenager.
00:06:58.000And then it migrated across the Atlantic.
00:07:05.260And then it migrated across the Atlantic.
00:07:07.720And in 2007, the first pediatric gender clinic in the United States was opened at Boston Children's Hospital.
00:07:14.500Norman Spack was the main doctor that was instrumental in that.
00:07:17.920And so very quietly from 2007 through 2015, this was just sort of brewing under the radar.
00:07:25.420But now every major children's hospital has a gender clinic in it, and it's just grown very, very stealthily and very quietly.
00:07:35.360And meanwhile, the Dutch have backpedaled all across Europe.
00:07:38.560They've backpedaled from this treatment protocol to treat gender confusion in children with a regimen of hormone-blocking drugs like Lupron or tryptorellin.
00:07:50.260And then they've dramatically scaled back.
00:07:55.840But here in the United States and in Canada, it's full bore ahead, except with this last year, we saw 17 states implement restrictions of various kinds that are now being sort of contested in the courts.
00:08:07.960But what's happening to children, it's atrocious because what transgender activists will say is that puberty blockers are just a pause button and that you're just pushing pause on puberty.
00:08:21.120And then that's to buy people some extra time to decide whether or not they want to continue to then go on with cross-sex hormones or a surgery to alter their body to make it appear, to mimic the other sex.
00:08:33.640Well, you can't buy back time and you can't push pause on a normal physiological process.
00:08:44.820Almost all children, this has been demonstrated through both in the UK and in here, if you go down this path of puberty blockade, chemical puberty blockade, it's almost a guarantee that you will also follow with cross-sex hormones.
00:08:59.520And the combo, the combination of blockers and hormones will almost certainly render a child sterile.
00:09:18.860Since when did it become ethical to sterilize a child, especially when there's no disease like cancer, where sometimes you might, for cancer, you might lose your fertility because your gut, you know, drug, the chemo, and the radiation.
00:09:32.940That might, unfortunately, you might lose your fertility because of that.
00:09:36.320But that's a morally licit reason because you're trying to get rid of a physical disease.
00:09:41.140Gender confusion, gender identity disorder, gender incongruence, gender dysphoria, whatever you call it, it's a psychological condition that does not warrant a hormonal or surgical intervention.
00:09:54.220It should never happen, in my opinion.
00:09:56.440And there are children in this country on the cusp of puberty that are now taking drugs to that end.
00:10:01.340And then when you get to the surgeries, that is a whole new level of horror.
00:10:07.240There are girls in this country, in the United States, as young as 13, I've seen this documented in medical journals, that have had their physically healthy breasts amputated.
00:10:14.940According to the Journal of Sexual Medicine, a surgeon said that he had done a vaginoplasty, which is the amputation of a boy's genitals, right as he was on the cusp of turning 16.
00:10:26.860I've seen that in print, the 15-year-old boy having his genitals maimed.
00:10:31.200And usually when they do that to teenage boys, if they've been on blockers, for example, they'll harvest the peritoneum, the abdominal lining, to make a fake vagina, which it's just a gruesome Frankenstein surgery.
00:10:44.440And then, of course, there's other surgeries like the chondrolaryngoplasty, which is where they shave the Adam's apple down, these other eyebrow shave facial surgeries.
00:10:55.060And then there's the orchiectomy, which is just a castration removal of the testicles.
00:10:59.360And then the most gruesome surgery of all, and I know of a 19-year-old young woman who's undergone this, is where they harvest a portion of forearm flesh, roll it up into a tube to make a fake phallus that they then surgically attach to a young girl's crotch to be a facsimile of a penis, which then, it doesn't work, of course.
00:11:20.780But there's a lot of money to be made on these surgeries, and it's become mainstreamed in all of our hospital systems.
00:11:27.420And I think, worst of all, that young people today in schools are being ideologically indoctrinated concurrently with these Frankenstein surgeries and medical practices happening in our hospitals.
00:11:42.840And so this is the first medical scandal that I know of, John Henry, where this is presented to the next generation as the pathway to liberation and becoming your true, authentic self.
00:11:54.600I don't recall opioids or thalidomide or ice-pick lobotomies to be presented in identity nomenclature.
00:12:04.560But these young people today believe that they have to take these drugs.
00:12:07.380They have to undergo these surgeries in order to become who they are.
00:12:11.580This is neo-gnosticism on steroids, literally.
00:13:22.300Well, if people are, you know, servile to the almighty orgasm, there's no surer way to kill it than to do this because you destroy your sexual function.
00:13:34.600But the gender confusion and with these surgeries, when I first saw some of these operations, I felt like the bottom dropped out of the world.
00:13:45.980I mean, some of these surgeries, they make Dr. Mengele look like a piker.
00:13:48.800But what they do in a phalloplasty, for example, is like I said, they harvest a portion of the forearm tissue, the skin and the other tissue, and they roll it up into a tube.
00:13:59.400And they have to make a urethra, some kind of, to make it function somewhat like a regular male penis.
00:14:15.740I mean, it's absolutely monstrous that this is a thing at all.
00:14:22.700I mean, I often think about when I see this brutality, that phrase in Romans chapter 1 where St. Paul is talking about the wicked people in Corinth and all of the things that he's seeing.
00:14:34.600And, of course, we know he speaks of all of the kinds of immorality.
00:14:38.680But then he says this phrase, they invent new ways of doing evil.
00:14:44.140You know, if this doesn't qualify as that, I'm not sure what does.
00:14:48.520But this is not – I mean, we as Christians, we believe, I believe, that the human body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
00:14:55.420But even if you don't have a regard, a reverential regard for the human frame, and even if you don't have that sort of spiritual understanding of what our bodies are and how we should treat them,
00:15:09.220you don't have to be a religious person to recognize that the human body is intended to function as a whole unit, as an entire organism.
00:15:19.040And it needs all of its systems to be intact, to work properly.
00:15:24.620And so you would never want to remove a physically healthy organ like a breast where you would damage and impede the function.
00:15:32.140You won't be able to breastfeed if you remove a healthy breast.
00:15:34.500Unless it's for a morally licit reason like cancer, you're trying to prevent the spread of a physical disease, you are actually harming the body.
00:15:42.140And even in these other – even where you have a physical disease, surgery is often seen as a last resort.
00:15:50.720It's not something you just waltz into, you know, first.
00:15:55.320I know of cases, John Henry, where within months of young people declaring themselves trans, they had their breasts removed.
00:16:03.080They were on drugs within 30 minutes of a telehealth call at Planned Parenthood, and they were able to pick up their prescription for testosterone within a few hours.
00:16:12.800I mean, the hasty, speedy path that this sends young people down, and vulnerable adults as well, it's just mind-blowing.
00:16:22.400But no, I mean, this is not surgery – when you're actually doing a surgery to try and heal someone's body, it's so that you can get it working.
00:16:35.180It's usually because you're trying to remove a tumor, get rid of a disease, or in the case of actual cosmetic surgery, you're trying to make the body appear to have its integrity.
00:16:47.840It's original – like I know of Dr. Patrick Lappert, hero Catholic doctor down in Alabama who does surgeries to try – even for people who have undergone transgender surgery, he tries to – when they desist or they detransition, he tries to help them with the surgery to get their bodies back into the most optimal function and their original appearance.
00:17:31.460A surgery should never be done to remove a physically healthy body part.
00:17:36.420Medical ethics is just dead as a doornail, in my opinion, that this would ever be something that doctors or surgeons would do.
00:17:44.360And I have to say, it's also making a lot of people very wealthy because these surgeries, they have a high complication rate, and so you're going to have to go back for a lot of follow-up care.
00:18:02.120But what they are doing in medical facilities today is abominable.
00:18:08.220So on your podcast, you've talked to several of these, what they call detransitioners.
00:18:16.420Tell us about what that is and what really struck you after talking with them.
00:18:21.840In episode four, I speak with 2D transitioners to talk about their stories, one man and one woman.
00:18:28.200And I also interviewed an attorney who's working on some lawsuits against the facilities that have done these surgeries, including he's got a case where he's suing the hospital system that cut the breasts off of a 13-year-old girl.
00:18:44.360So this is really real, and I also interviewed my friend Jennifer Law, who, by the way, just released a book from Ignatius Press with Callie Fell called The Detransition Diaries, which profiles several of these detransitioners and explains some of the history and how gender ideology erodes biomedical ethics.
00:19:01.140So I wrote the foreword for that book.
00:19:04.220But the detransitioners in that episode, the man and the woman, he had his testicles amputated, and she had her breasts removed, and they were both on hormones.
00:19:14.360And they both talked about how the online culture that young people now live in, largely, it's a feeding frenzy.
00:19:24.160They become swept up into this contagion, and that's where their belief system is fed that somehow they need to hormonally and surgically alter their bodies in order to become who they are.
00:19:42.760The young man that I interviewed, Forrest, talked at length about that, how this kind of forced feminization was very strong.
00:19:51.620And so he didn't, if you see this, really, a lot of pornography is very violent.
00:19:56.400And if men who find, you know, dominant, violent men repulsive, and it is, the twisted way in which this warps their mind is that, well, if they don't want to be like that violent man abusing this woman in porn, then that means that they actually are a woman themselves.
00:20:18.660And so he was led to believe that, and the confusion just metastasized from there, and he wound up being surgically castrated.
00:20:26.840And now he has, that poor man has trauma, he can't even see a pair of scissors or clippers without having a traumatic flare-up because of what was done to him.
00:20:38.840The other detransitioner woman, Laura, she had her breasts removed, and she had a lot of psychological comorbidities that really drove her thinking.
00:20:48.480She had some serious mental health issues, and none of those were explored, and that's very typical in this space.
00:20:54.620A lot of these young people who are going down this path of trans care, as it's called, gender care, have autism, or they're battling depression or social anxiety, all of these other psychiatric ailments and problems, and they're not explored.
00:21:10.380And therapy is just sending them down this path, easy-peasy, write your letter, recommend you for surgery, and the pharma companies and the medical industrial complex is laughing all the way to the bank.
00:21:23.700It's not being hyperbole, people are fast-tracked without any sort of good counseling that would help them accept their maleness or femaleness.
00:21:37.620This is a cash cow, and it's devastating to hear the emotional and psychological and even spiritual toll that this has taken on them.
00:21:48.040Forrest says very poignantly in episode four that he has a broken heart.
00:21:52.560And worst of all, worst of all, John Henry, it was a progressive church that he used to be a part of that contributed to his feeling like he needed to go and do this kind of thing.
00:22:04.560When he was transitioning, the progressives in his former church would say, oh, you're so brave.
00:22:10.300They would heap praise on his journey of transitioning.
00:22:13.800But it was a Pentecostal pastor who spoke the truth and in love that helped him reintegrate with his male body.
00:22:21.880And so he's now on the path to recovery and is walking with the Lord.
00:22:28.220I mean, I'm just, I'm so, when I sit back some days and I just think about what doctors who took an oath to do no harm,
00:22:37.220I mean, maybe the Hippocratic Oath isn't in every medical school nowadays, but like, when I think about what they have been able to do to so many people,
00:22:46.260I mean, the anger sometimes just really, I have to work very hard to keep a steady, keep a steady hand because these are atrocities, John Henry.
00:22:56.160The fact that we have allowed young people to give consent to have their healthy body parts amputated and foreclose their fertility is just, I mean, I lose words just when I think of the wrongness of all of that.
00:23:53.820I mean, I think the standard should be, I mean, if a doctor was doing a lobotomy today, he'd probably be arrested.
00:24:00.100And I think the same ought to be for trans surgery.
00:24:03.420I mean, this is not an ethical practice at all.
00:24:06.100And so the statistic that I often share that really sort of underscores it, and I've seen this figure from the American Society for Plastic Surgeons, they publish their numbers every year.
00:24:18.800And there was a, well, there's actually a couple statistics that are relevant from that group.
00:24:22.680But between 2016 and 2017, the number of gender surgeries on females, as shown by that group, this is also documented in Abigail Schreier's watershed book, Irreversible Damage, that from 2016 to 2017, the number of gender surgeries on females quadrupled.
00:24:41.100And in 2020, just to underscore this point, I remember seeing that on, they call them gender confirmation surgeries.
00:24:50.000That's the euphemism they use, of course.
00:25:34.780There was a very, the Journal of American Medical Association, this came out several months ago, where they showed the rising rates of gender surgeries being done on people ages 18 and under.
00:25:51.520And I think the figure was like 1,200 per year, but it averaged out if you also do the math with, you know, dividing the numbers.
00:26:00.1201,200 divided by 261 is 4.6 approximately surgeries on minors, 18 and under per weekday.
00:26:08.600So, you know, think about today, you know, 4.6 kids will have their body parts cut off.
00:26:16.140One is too many, but this is happening on a daily basis.
00:26:20.700And the manipulation and the gaslighting around this is just like, these kids are going to commit suicide unless you do this.
00:26:26.780And if you believe that, gullible is too kind of word to describe you.
00:26:30.060You don't cut a child's body parts off because you're afraid they're going to kill themselves later.
00:26:54.920But that's the manipulation that's used to say, unless you put this child on these experimental drugs, which are going to cause them a whole host of medical problems and health complications, that they're going to wind up dead by suicide.
00:27:08.780Suicide is such a complex phenomenon, many factors influencing it.
00:27:13.820But people are allegedly led to believe, and parents are often told this, that unless they go through with this, that's going to happen.
00:27:20.080And so that instills fear in them, and that's why we have these growing numbers of these awful surgeries and these drugs being given to children, because people are manipulated into thinking those kids are going to wind up dead.
00:27:30.900Nothing could be further from the truth.
00:27:32.500There's no evidence to suggest that suicide is going to increase.
00:27:35.580And the LGBT activists that push that nonsense have these junk studies to say, as a study by Tordoff, I've seen the literature.
00:27:43.120The sample sizes that they use, I could go on for hours.
00:27:47.320In fact, if you look at the studies of those who have gone through with transition, I'm sure those studies also show an equal or greater number of suicide.
00:27:59.480But, of course, that would be ascribed to people being discriminatory against them.
00:28:03.360Well, the big study that's often used in that respect is the one that's out of Sweden.
00:28:09.460And that one didn't – I don't believe that one.
00:28:11.360That was the Dejny study from, I think, 2007 or 11.
00:28:14.360I'm not sure of the year, but I've seen that.
00:28:16.520But they measured all of the – what were once known as transsexual identified persons in the country of Sweden, just about all of them, if not all of them in the country of Sweden.
00:28:24.360Over 30 years, they examined all of the medical records for these persons who had undergone transition and surgery.
00:28:32.280And they're postoperative – they measured their psychological – they did the big study.
00:28:37.940And they had a 19 times higher rate hazardous completed suicide after transition, 19 times higher when matched against population match control groups.
00:29:10.380Well, if you can create a medical patient for life, which that's what this does, that's an income stream.
00:29:17.820I mean, I've seen some of the numbers of what blockers cost.
00:29:23.980If you put – there was an investigative report about the costs of these hysterelin and superelin implants where they put these puberty blocking devices in children's arms, and they cost thousands of dollars.
00:29:40.900Right, because you're altering your hormones to keep the illusion that you are the other sex going.
00:29:48.860Your maleness or your femaleness, it's stamped in your DNA, so your body is going to always try to correct what you're pumping into it exogenously.
00:30:00.220And so you're overloading your endocrine system with synthetic wrong sex hormones that don't and shouldn't belong there.
00:30:07.060And so if you're going to keep it going, you're going to keep taking these drugs.
00:30:11.100And if you keep taking those drugs, that's more money for the medical industry, for the pharmaceutical companies.
00:30:16.060And then the surgeries, which, like I said earlier, they're not doing anything to repair the body.
00:30:22.240So if you're actually doing a surgery for a morally illicit reason, it's good because if you're removing a tumor, you're trying to get the body back into the shape and the health – restore it to normal health.
00:30:34.320This is creating – this is creating complications.
00:30:37.980This is what they call – this is iatrogenic, especially if you induce these hormonal dysregulation.
00:30:44.580It's the puberty blockers that cause – an endocrinologist told me this.
00:30:49.340It's like hypogonadotropic hypogonadism.
00:30:51.940It's an endocrine disease state, and it's iatrogenic, meaning doctor-induced, doctor-caused disease.
00:30:59.080John Henry, I'm of the view that doctors should not be causing disease, nor should surgeons be cutting off physically healthy body parts that – I mean, if you cut off your testicles, you're going to disrupt your hormone system because they produce the testosterone, and then you're going to have all these other issues.
00:31:14.340And so, you know, you have a lifelong medical patient or a life – you know, if you have hormones and surgeries, where they're going to need a lot of follow-up care, and with all of that follow-up care, more money.
00:31:27.900And insurance is in on this, and, you know, this is just – if you're creating disease and you're creating sickness and you're creating complications, that's an income stream.
00:31:38.680And it's also – I mean, it's also driven by another form of wickedness because you see this especially in older men who become convinced that they are women and need to trans themselves.
00:31:53.600This is like a high-level fetish of sorts, and so there's this perversion that drives it alongside this money-making push.
00:32:03.220I mean, even – and I'm not making this up.
00:32:07.100There's actually – Matt Walsh and his crew down at the Daily Wire investigated Vanderbilt – this was maybe a year ago now – where they actually had video footage of a doctor on tape saying this is a great moneymaker for our hospital.
00:32:20.420In fact, she said that she personally helped to convince the institution to make the move based in part because she claims it's the right thing to do, but also in large part because gender affirmation surgeries are, quote, big moneymakers.
00:32:35.080She boasted that a phalloplasty, which is the construction of an artificial penis, which is made using flesh cut from other parts of the body, she said that those can be worth $100,000 when you factor in all of the follow-ups that are necessary.
00:32:50.540Starting in January 1st of 2017, according to the Affordable Care Act, insurance carriers are mandated to cover medical expenses for trans folks.
00:33:01.480Some of our BUMC financial folks in August of – I'm sorry, October of 2016, started a couple years ago, put down some costs of how much money we think each patient would bring in, and this is only including top surgery.
00:33:15.200This doesn't include any bottom surgery, and it's a lot of money.
00:33:22.520So female – it's a male – chest reconstruction can bring in $40,000.
00:33:27.960A patient just on routine hormone treatment, who I'm only seeing a few times a year, can bring in several thousand dollars because it requires a lot of visits and labs.
00:33:36.120It actually makes money for the hospital.
00:33:37.900Now, these I got from the internet, but it's from the Philadelphia Center for Transgender Surgery, which does a lot of surgery for patients.
00:33:48.540I just wanted to give you an idea of how much these bottom surgeries are making, and this is – I think this has to be an underestimate.
00:33:55.280This is for a vaginoplasty, they're saying – they're quoting roughly around $20,000 for a vaginoplasty, but that doesn't include your hospital stay, that doesn't include your postdoc visits, that doesn't include your anesthesia, your OR, so I would think that this has to be a gross underestimate.
00:34:13.120I think that's just, like, the surgeon's piece of it, which anybody who's ever been in the hospital knows that that's, like, 10% of it.
00:34:22.200And then the female-to-male bottom surgeries, these are huge moneymakers.
00:34:27.140Again, I think this has to be an underestimate that they're quoting around $20,000 for a vaginoplasty.
00:34:32.400There's been different things that I've read that said it could be up to $100,000.
00:34:35.300Dr. Winokur, who's our surgeon, says that there's entire clinics where the entire clinic is supported just by their phalloplasties, and that is, like, a fraction of the surgeries that they're doing.
00:35:37.460Can you describe for us the spiritual side to this?
00:35:40.920Well, when I think about what's going on spiritually, not only is this the desecration of the image of God on people as male and female, which it is that.
00:35:51.980And a very wise Catholic teacher once told me that the enemy of our souls wages war on the human body and on sexuality, on our gender, whatever you want to call it.
00:36:04.560Because if he can twist and distort that, he can then rob God of his creative generosity as the giver of life.
00:36:11.480So, this disrupts something so precious about our being and our ability to declare the image of God as male and female and then, of course, reproduce and start families.
00:36:24.400The other spiritual factor that is just so important to emphasize is that, in addition to desecrating the body, and it's the temple of the Holy Spirit, according to 1 Corinthians, so we're desecrating God's temple when we do this kind of thing.
00:36:44.520As you know, John Henry, I'm not a Catholic, but I often say to my Catholic friends that if these aren't Fatima days, I'm not sure what, if this isn't that, I'm not sure what is, because this is tearing families apart left and right.
00:36:59.060This ideology, especially when the medicalization enters the picture, hits children against their parents and parents against their children.
00:37:05.840Children are convinced that their parents who are trying to look out for them are actually their enemies.
00:37:09.420They have to sever ties with all of those family bonds.
00:37:13.600They have to just get rid of them and join an LGBTQ glitter family, as it's called.
00:37:18.800And the relational rupture that happens is just off the charts, searing agony.
00:37:25.680This just fractures relationships left and right.
00:37:30.220And I've known it to destroy marriages.
00:37:32.760There's divorces that have happened as a result of this ideology.
00:37:35.740And, you know, cousins and aunts and uncles no longer speak to.
00:37:40.040I mean, it's every family bond that you can think of when this comes on the scene just brings ruinous agony and destruction.
00:38:29.840You will see how all of the institutions that are now captured by this demonic pathology are now actively working against loving moms and dads.
00:38:40.900Parents who love their children ferociously and are wanting to protect them from irreversible medical harm.
00:38:46.860They are now undermined and marginalized and told that they hate their children or that they are bigots if they express caution or are hesitant about allowing their children to go on this regimen of experimental drugs and surgeries.
00:39:03.420If you want girl parts and you don't have them, you can do special surgery where they turn your penis inside out and there's a vagina inside.
00:39:16.860There's an epidemic of this going on in the United States and we are only now starting to see some mainstream media scrutiny.
00:39:23.780I've been on this for seven years, John Henry, and mainstream media have been complicit in this medical scandal.
00:39:31.360And I think there are going to need to be books written about how this ripped apart so many family relationships in the coming years because they have not been given a voice in the press except for outlets like mine and a few others.
00:39:46.280We talk to some of those families, including one of the fathers with the father that was profiled in the dead name film in episode three of Generation Indoctrination.
00:39:55.840But the spiritual carnage of this, it's off the charts.
00:40:00.360It's the worst diabolical wickedness I think I've ever seen.
00:40:03.260There's no there's no bottom to its cruelty.
00:40:05.920The savagery of this cult ideology is horrible beyond words.
00:40:13.060Tell us about the cooperation of schools, because when the parents are ripped away, the school is usually complicit in first hiding that this thought process is going on at all with the children.
00:40:27.020And then later, even involved in getting them these so-called treatments, these drugs without the parents' knowledge.
00:40:37.420It's the abrogation of parental rights and the way in which those freedoms, those rights, parental rights, which are pre-political, they're inalienable, at least in this country.
00:40:53.560I don't know what your charter freedoms up in Canada delineate, but here in the United States, parental rights are very sacred.
00:41:00.440And with this ideology in the schools, it's stunning how quickly they have evaporated.
00:41:07.620But yes, depending on what school district you live in and depending on what state, it's because it's definitely worse in more liberal states and in cities.
00:41:15.360Parents are kept completely in the dark to the point where I've seen that they have transition closets where the kids come and change clothes at school and to be in more feminine clothes if they're a boy who wants to be a girl or vice versa.
00:41:27.060And then they change back before they go home. And there are policies in place where a kid will go by a different name and pronouns at school.
00:41:35.180And I've even heard stories of guidance counselors doing referrals to gender clinics and resources, LGBT activist groups that are going to help these kids transition without their parents because their parents might not be accepting.
00:41:48.880And that's abuse. And there are even cases where custody has been removed from parents legally being accused of abuse for not going along with the transition, so to speak.
00:41:59.500My friend Abigail Martinez, that was the case with her daughter, Yaley, who doctors, her custody was removed by the social services agency in Los Angeles.
00:42:12.440And she was a loving mom and she was ultimately cleared of all charges of abuse.
00:42:18.740But poor Yaley was then transferred into a group home, an LGBTQ-friendly group home, and her story has been told in a couple of documentaries.
00:42:27.480But poor Yaley, at age 17, knelt down in front of a train and took her own life after she had been drugged.
00:42:35.520She was allowed to get those hormones and she was removed from her mother's custody.
00:42:39.420The social services agencies told poor Abigail that she was not allowed to talk to her daughter about God and that if she wasn't fully supportive of the transition, that that was abuse.
00:42:50.120And poor Abigail had to get the phone call.
00:42:53.020It's every parent's worst nightmare that her child was dead.
00:42:56.520And not only dead, but her body was shattered in pieces on the railroad tracks.
00:43:00.640I mean, this is a death cult, John Henry.
00:43:04.380And parents have been through thousands of nightmares.
00:43:10.000I mean, I talk with parents who are dealing with this with their kids.
00:43:13.020They say they would not wish this suffering on their worst enemy.
00:43:17.080They wake up every morning and it's as though a ton of bricks collapses on their chest.
00:43:21.660And it's this constant grinding agony that is just from the depths of hell.
00:43:55.020I think the only thing that I can say with 1000% certainty is that for everyone who is watching this broadcast, please make this a part of your daily prayers.
00:44:10.420I believe that this wickedness is so intense and diabolical that the only way that it will ever be defeated is through the prayers of God's people.
00:44:20.660There are legislators and attorneys general and governors that are taking action up in Canada and Alberta.
00:44:27.020We saw your premier just try to take some action against the medical aspect of this for young people.
00:44:31.800But this is so deeply entrenched that I'm convinced that the only real solution will be divine in origin.
00:44:40.400Like we need to beseech the Lord Most High for deliverance because that's what it's going to take.
00:44:47.380I mean, I say with the Father who I converse with every so often, but God.
00:44:52.580You know, there are stories in scripture where all hope seems lost and that we're up against seemingly insurmountable odds.
00:44:58.920But God then shows up and he uses a remnant of people.
00:45:03.020There are many times in history where it looked as though history was going to go one way and then it pivoted because God intervened.
00:45:09.640I'm believing that God is going to have to intervene.
00:45:11.900But if we pray and we set our faces like flint and we believe that God is for us and not against us and that no weapon formed against us shall prosper, but that he's God and that he loves the little children and Jesus does love the little children.
00:45:24.780He has very harsh words for those who harm them.
00:45:27.300Better would be a millstone than to harm one of these little children, he says.
00:45:30.840If we pray, I believe we will see this wickedness dismantled in the realm of the spirit.
00:45:36.640I've said this in many interviews and I'll say it here.
00:45:38.880Or the verse that I've just, it's just ringing in my spirit when I think about what we're, what this moment in time and what we're doing is 2 Corinthians 10 verse 4.
00:45:48.000And it's the apostle Paul saying that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God for the tearing down and destruction of strongholds.
00:45:53.860I believe this is a pernicious, ruthless, vicious stronghold.
00:45:58.260But if God's people pray, it will be torn down in the realm of the spirit and then we will see the victory.