The John-Henry Westen Show - December 09, 2020


Lockdowns in the light of Advent： Advice from a hermit on how to cope


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In this episode, Father Maximilian Mary Dean is back to talk about what we can do to prepare for a possible Christmas Day lockdown in the United States due to coronavirus. He talks about the role of St. Joseph and Our Lady during Advent and the longing for the coming of Christ.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show where we're very pleased to have back
00:00:05.040 Father Maximilian Mary Dean. He is that hermit who spoke to us at the beginning of the lockdown in 0.64
00:00:10.700 March and he's back again to tell us what we might do during this time of potential lockdown
00:00:16.720 for Christmas. You're going to want to stay tuned for this one to hear all of his ideas,
00:00:20.640 his blessings, and just his amazing insights.
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00:01:14.160 deprived of all the news and all the new videos that we put out. May God bless you. And let's begin
00:01:20.880 as we always do with the sign of the cross. Father, if I can get you to lead us in the sign of the cross.
00:01:24.040 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
00:01:28.820 Amen. Amen. Father Maximilian, thank you for being with us again on this episode of the John
00:01:33.540 Henry Weston Show. Thank you for having me.
00:01:38.040 We wanted to talk to you again because, I mean, you talked to us last time about what we can do
00:01:43.420 in terms of lockdown. We seem to be coming to that situation again, and yet we're in the midst of,
00:01:49.220 or just the beginning of Advent season, where we're hoping and preparing for the coming of Christ
00:01:54.620 and the great celebrations that Christmas brings to us. And yet there's a lot of people with a lot
00:02:00.740 of worry about coronavirus, yes, but also about the possibility of no church services, no mass
00:02:09.720 at Christmastime. And it's a great heartache for a lot of people. So if you can talk to us about that.
00:02:15.960 Yeah, I think it adds a whole different dimension to Advent for us, doesn't it? Advent, as you know,
00:02:24.220 I mean, the word, we use it in the Our Father, Adventiat Renium Tum, you know,
00:02:29.320 Thy kingdom come, Thy kingdom come. So it's about coming, the coming of Jesus.
00:02:33.500 And so I think, obviously, we can focus in a very special way on the precious coming of our Lord
00:02:42.100 and go with the church in that sort of time machine, which is the liturgy, and takes us back
00:02:49.320 to all the desires, the prayers, the longings of the people of Israel for the coming of Jesus.
00:02:56.080 And certainly with people not able to go to Mass, should increase that longing.
00:03:03.740 And we just, we think of, and especially we think of St. Joseph and Our Lady during the time of Advent
00:03:10.660 as really the models, the ones who lived out so deeply, so beautifully and profoundly that longing
00:03:18.620 of Israel for the Messiah, even before, you know, even before they knew that they were chosen
00:03:26.000 to be the father and mother of the Holy Family, that they were longing, perhaps more than anybody
00:03:34.220 else in the history of Israel for the coming of Christ. So I think, John Henry, in answer to your
00:03:40.640 question, certainly I think turning to St. Joseph and Our Blessed Lady during this period of Advent
00:03:45.720 Advent, and seeking to unite our hearts to their hearts in that longing for the coming of Christ.
00:03:54.640 At Christmas, the longing even for His coming at the end of the world, you know, yeah, it's a fearful
00:04:01.700 thought to have to confront our Maker, the Just Judge. And yet, as St. Teresa of Avila says,
00:04:11.140 if we love Him above all things, it's a great consolation to go out and meet Christ the Lord.
00:04:18.900 And so that Second Coming, we need to long and pray for that as well, because when our Lord comes,
00:04:24.980 He will come as King, He will come as Conqueror, He will come with His victory over sin, Satan, and death.
00:04:32.180 He will come, there will be no more tears, no more pain, no more disease, no more death,
00:04:37.460 no hatred, none of those things when He comes. And those who stand at His right hand will be
00:04:44.540 welcomed forever into the kingdom of His joy. So we long for that coming as well.
00:04:50.720 And the bridge, and this is what's so hard, even just to hear you say that people might actually be
00:04:57.780 without Mass for Advent, even Christmas, that really the bridge from His first coming at Bethlehem
00:05:04.600 to His final coming in glory is the Holy Eucharist. I mean, that's what bridges those two comings,
00:05:11.500 because we receive Christ Himself who came at Bethlehem, Christ Himself who's coming in glory.
00:05:17.700 We receive Him body, blood, soul, and divinity into our souls, into that cradle, that Bethlehem of our souls,
00:05:25.280 but also the throne, where He can be King and reign gloriously in our lives.
00:05:32.760 Yeah, so it's just, it's devastating. We went through this, I know we talked back, and it was during Lent,
00:05:39.280 and just the great heart-wrenching
00:05:42.860 scenario that we went through where people weren't allowed to go to Mass, etc.
00:05:49.000 And I just, I pray that doesn't happen again. I pray that doesn't happen again.
00:05:54.200 Or if it is, it's just in certain areas, and that we can, you know, just pray through that.
00:06:02.380 Absolutely. Now, you mentioned St. Joseph there. I think it's very interesting.
00:06:07.120 You've just recently released a new song
00:06:09.520 to St. Joseph, or reflecting on St. Joseph.
00:06:14.900 If you can delve a little bit more into that, the, you mentioned the period of Advent being one of longing,
00:06:20.640 which is exactly what, you know, we're really called to do in a big way now,
00:06:25.240 particularly for those who have no access to the Holy Sacrifice, the Mass,
00:06:29.160 for those who do, offering it up for your brothers and sisters who are without the Holy Sacrifice,
00:06:35.460 because you are really privileged today.
00:06:37.740 It's always been a privilege to go and attend, to go and hear the Holy Sacrifice, the Mass,
00:06:42.640 to go be there at Calvary. But today, more so than ever, we should be able to appreciate
00:06:48.380 how special this is. There are people all over the world right now.
00:06:52.880 We just got an email the other day from someone in United Arab Emirates.
00:06:57.620 She said to us, you know, she had just experienced her third Mass since March.
00:07:03.760 Her kids aren't even able to come with her. They forbid children under nine from coming into the church at all.
00:07:08.580 So they're all at home, and she's there by herself, the third Mass only since March.
00:07:13.180 This is a daily Mass or so. These things are horrific and very troublesome.
00:07:18.200 So value, appreciate the Mass for what it is, and offer it up for those brothers and sisters of yours who have no access.
00:07:24.460 But Father, if you could tell us about St. Joseph's longing, as you mentioned there,
00:07:30.040 and in relation to what we can learn from him this Advent.
00:07:33.280 First, John Henry, let me tie this in. You know, St. Maximilian Mary Colby, who's my patron saint,
00:07:40.600 obviously, I mean, as a priest who was very close to the heart of our Blessed Mother
00:07:45.460 and labored very feverishly with over 750 friars in Poland at that time.
00:07:54.920 And as you know, the Nazis saw him and his newspapers and whatever, his speaking the truth as a threat,
00:08:03.640 and rightly so, a threat to their lies.
00:08:07.080 And so they destroyed the monastery and arrested him and I think over 30 other brothers.
00:08:15.360 And he was in Auschwitz, as were these brothers.
00:08:18.160 And the reason I bring that up is, I mean, here you have a priest who also had adoration throughout the day for the brothers.
00:08:28.660 And he was not only deprived of visiting the tabernacle, but as a priest deprived even of celebrating Holy Mass.
00:08:36.780 And before he was ever arrested, he once said to the brothers, he told them how efficacious a spiritual communion is.
00:08:48.840 He said, in some ways, it can be, and in circumstances like we're describing,
00:08:54.040 he says, in some ways it can be even more efficacious than an actual sacramental communion.
00:08:59.180 Now, obviously, the sacrament, you can't outdo the sacrament,
00:09:03.440 but he's just talking about when you, by divine providence, are deprived of Holy Communion,
00:09:08.920 you can dispose yourself, and of course, our Lord can give these special graces.
00:09:15.000 So that's one thing I would highly encourage all of us to do,
00:09:19.520 is to frequently make spiritual Holy Communion.
00:09:23.140 If we can't go to Mass, sometimes we're able to watch Mass on TV,
00:09:29.220 or even just in the day, to unite ourselves with the Masses being offered throughout the world.
00:09:35.940 I mean, just think about this.
00:09:37.620 Over 400,000 priests are offering Mass every day.
00:09:42.380 And what that means is that about every second,
00:09:46.120 three priests are consecrating Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament,
00:09:49.880 and three other priests are elevating Jesus.
00:09:53.140 Three other priests at that moment are consecrating the precious blood,
00:09:57.780 and three other priests are distributing Holy Communion.
00:10:01.040 In other words, the Mass is the presence of Jesus,
00:10:04.820 and we can unite ourselves to that spiritually.
00:10:07.980 And even if the faithful can't go,
00:10:10.360 we know that the priests are offering Holy Mass.
00:10:14.420 And so that's the first thing I would just say,
00:10:16.520 is the value of spiritual communion.
00:10:17.800 And that obviously ties in with the Blessed Mother and St. Joseph.
00:10:22.720 St. Joseph would have longed with all his being,
00:10:26.700 and it's the tradition that he had made a vow of virginity,
00:10:30.840 and he had no intentions of getting married,
00:10:34.380 or any idea that he was going to get married to the Queen of Heaven and Earth,
00:10:38.180 the Mother of God herself.
00:10:41.700 And so when he espoused Our Lady,
00:10:45.400 now he saw that as the will of God,
00:10:48.220 and he, with her, had united his heart to her
00:10:51.380 in longing for and praying for the coming of Jesus, the Messiah,
00:10:55.940 the coming of his reign of peace, of his redemption.
00:11:00.780 And then after he realized that he had been chosen,
00:11:07.460 and that he was actually espoused to the Mother of the Messiah,
00:11:12.360 and that she was a living tabernacle in his home,
00:11:16.540 bearing Christ into the world,
00:11:21.240 you know, St. the Venerable Mother Maria Greta
00:11:24.360 talks about how as soon as he realized this,
00:11:26.920 he began genuflecting to the Blessed Mother,
00:11:28.940 because he realized that she was a living tabernacle,
00:11:32.580 that she was the temple, the basilica,
00:11:35.460 in which Christ was present.
00:11:37.320 And Our Lady had to sit him down and talk to him and say, 0.99
00:11:40.060 no, you can't be doing this.
00:11:42.540 And so Venerable Mother Maria Greta recounts how
00:11:46.340 so he no longer genuflected to her when she was looking,
00:11:51.260 but when she was looking the other direction,
00:11:54.140 he would genuflect when he would walk by.
00:11:56.080 And so we see this, St. Joseph,
00:11:59.520 this recognition of Christ who is true God,
00:12:03.440 and that in him is the fullness of divinity in his body,
00:12:08.520 so that he's true man,
00:12:10.440 that true God, true man, the incarnate Word,
00:12:13.800 in the womb of the Blessed Mother,
00:12:16.300 and then his longing would have increased.
00:12:19.680 Like, his longing was already second only to the Blessed Mother
00:12:22.920 for the coming of the Messiah,
00:12:24.080 but now that the Messiah was dwelling in her womb,
00:12:26.660 he longed, as did Our Lady,
00:12:28.860 to feast his eyes upon the Babe of Bethlehem,
00:12:34.360 to feast his eyes on the Savior, Jesus,
00:12:38.140 to feast his eyes on the King of kings and Lord of lords,
00:12:41.760 who was coming to bring God among us,
00:12:45.340 Emmanuel, God with us.
00:12:47.160 And so I think that that is a tremendous lesson
00:12:52.060 for all of us spiritually,
00:12:53.720 and if we apply it to our times,
00:12:56.740 that certainly St. Joseph experienced many difficulties,
00:13:01.120 many difficulties,
00:13:03.400 both before, during, and after the birth of Christ.
00:13:07.800 I mean, before he didn't know that,
00:13:10.420 he just knew that Mary was pregnant,
00:13:12.000 but he didn't have an answer for the mystery
00:13:14.160 why she was pregnant,
00:13:15.280 and they had a virginal marriage,
00:13:17.260 and the struggle that that was for him.
00:13:20.080 And then, after he knew,
00:13:23.680 they had the census in Bethlehem,
00:13:26.380 and of course, St. Joseph went with Our Lady,
00:13:29.160 and then he had the distress of not being able to find,
00:13:31.980 in the very town of the King David,
00:13:36.720 the town where the Messiah was supposed to come,
00:13:38.740 he couldn't find a place fitting for the King of Heaven
00:13:43.360 and his Queen Mother,
00:13:45.260 and ended up leading them to a stall, a cave.
00:13:50.440 And then the joy, the ecstasy of St. Joseph
00:13:52.960 to be able to adore,
00:13:55.220 to be the first one after, or with Our Lady,
00:13:59.420 the first one to actually adore Jesus Christ,
00:14:04.020 born in Bethlehem.
00:14:05.740 And then, as you know,
00:14:07.140 I mean, after that,
00:14:07.860 immediately, Herod is out to seek him,
00:14:11.380 and he has to fly into Egypt with Our Lady
00:14:14.500 and the infant Jesus to a pagan land.
00:14:19.000 They speak a different language.
00:14:22.040 And so he was estranged, in many ways,
00:14:24.600 from the temple, from the Jewish feasts, etc.
00:14:28.320 And I think that St. Joseph and Our Lady
00:14:30.820 can certainly instruct us and give us special graces
00:14:34.500 if we unite our hearts with them
00:14:36.720 in keeping our focus on the infant Jesus
00:14:40.000 and the peace and the truth
00:14:42.040 and the love and the grace
00:14:43.920 that he came to bring to us.
00:14:48.540 Yes.
00:14:49.640 Okay, so let me unpack some of that, Father,
00:14:51.760 because there was some really amazing things
00:14:54.520 in what you said.
00:14:55.020 Venerable Mary of Agreda,
00:14:58.060 her great works,
00:14:59.120 the city of God,
00:14:59.960 the mystical city of God,
00:15:01.480 relating, as you said,
00:15:03.500 that St. Joseph genuflected to Our Lady,
00:15:06.840 recognizing,
00:15:08.160 of course, he was told by the angel
00:15:09.500 that she was the mother of the Messiah
00:15:13.100 and that the child born of her was of God.
00:15:17.180 So he knew that,
00:15:18.300 but genuflecting in front of her,
00:15:19.960 it's an amazing thing,
00:15:20.780 because often I think people in the scriptures
00:15:22.860 and they read the scriptures
00:15:23.700 and they see,
00:15:24.700 oh, the first recognition of Jesus
00:15:26.380 in his mother's womb 0.97
00:15:27.260 is St. Elizabeth,
00:15:28.760 you know,
00:15:28.960 because she was told by the angel
00:15:30.100 and said so,
00:15:30.580 but we have to think also,
00:15:31.920 obviously,
00:15:32.320 St. Joseph knew,
00:15:33.700 and that image of him genuflecting
00:15:36.560 to the living tabernacle of God
00:15:38.580 is just an incredible,
00:15:39.940 incredible thought.
00:15:41.080 He wouldn't have known
00:15:42.200 until after St. Elizabeth
00:15:43.580 because it wasn't until she came back
00:15:46.520 from the visitation
00:15:47.580 that St. Joseph even noticed
00:15:49.780 the signs of her pregnancy,
00:15:51.240 and so St. Elizabeth
00:15:54.220 and St. John the Baptist
00:15:55.760 and the St. Zacharias,
00:15:58.240 they would have all been the first,
00:15:59.500 I think,
00:16:00.480 but then when she came back,
00:16:04.220 obviously,
00:16:04.960 she would have been,
00:16:06.360 I think it's three months
00:16:07.360 she spent with them,
00:16:09.120 so it would have been very obvious
00:16:11.100 to St. Joseph.
00:16:13.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:15.120 Beautiful.
00:16:16.080 What a beautiful thing.
00:16:16.900 Also, you mentioned how
00:16:18.760 in the stable,
00:16:21.960 there's a really neat reflection
00:16:24.000 from your mentor's mentor.
00:16:28.380 So you explained that your mentor,
00:16:30.680 your name,
00:16:31.960 Fr. Maximilian Mary,
00:16:32.960 you take, of course,
00:16:33.740 from Fr. Maximilian Mary Colbet,
00:16:36.340 and his mentor
00:16:38.220 in his whole devotion to Our Lady
00:16:40.200 was, of course,
00:16:41.200 St. Louis de Montfort.
00:16:42.880 And de Montfort has a beautiful reflection
00:16:45.900 on this,
00:16:46.520 which you mentioned about
00:16:47.340 St. Joseph and the stable,
00:16:49.260 how St. Joseph would have prepared
00:16:51.160 the stable,
00:16:51.940 because he had nowhere else
00:16:53.480 to work with, obviously,
00:16:55.900 prepared the stable for Our Lady,
00:16:57.500 for the coming of Our Lord.
00:17:00.120 And I've always,
00:17:01.960 well, de Montfort makes this reflection
00:17:03.480 that, you know,
00:17:05.940 it's like us.
00:17:07.680 We are the stable,
00:17:08.820 and you mentioned that already, too,
00:17:09.960 that, you know,
00:17:10.880 he comes into the stable
00:17:12.100 of our hearts,
00:17:13.000 and de Montfort talks about
00:17:15.220 Mary coming into our hearts
00:17:17.320 to receive Jesus for us,
00:17:19.240 if you will,
00:17:19.720 but St. Joseph, too,
00:17:20.780 because I think he was there
00:17:22.120 in the stable
00:17:22.600 to prepare the stable
00:17:24.320 for Our Lady,
00:17:26.000 for the coming of Our Lord,
00:17:27.200 and I think he can do that
00:17:28.320 with us, too.
00:17:29.280 We can ask him into our hearts
00:17:30.520 to, by his intercession,
00:17:32.460 cleanse the stables of our hearts
00:17:33.780 to make them ready
00:17:34.960 for Jesus and Mary.
00:17:37.180 Yeah, beautiful,
00:17:38.140 beautiful reflections,
00:17:39.920 and we need that nearness right now,
00:17:42.820 that unity with the Holy Family
00:17:44.720 in order to be able to hold
00:17:46.300 Jesus in our hearts,
00:17:47.340 in order to be able to long
00:17:48.580 with St. Joseph
00:17:50.940 and with Our Lady
00:17:51.720 for the coming of Our Lord,
00:17:53.280 both in the coming
00:17:56.900 that will come to us shortly
00:17:58.600 at the end of our lives,
00:17:59.800 however long away
00:18:01.240 or nearby that might be,
00:18:02.440 but also the second coming,
00:18:04.240 of course,
00:18:04.580 and God willing soon
00:18:07.960 for some of us already
00:18:09.100 can do that now,
00:18:11.740 but for those of you
00:18:13.300 who are experiencing lockdown,
00:18:15.360 God willing soon
00:18:16.020 at the Holy Sacrifice as well.
00:18:18.120 Yeah, you know,
00:18:18.900 one of the things,
00:18:19.500 John Henry,
00:18:19.980 struck me when you were speaking
00:18:21.360 is just the relation
00:18:22.740 of St. Joseph
00:18:23.640 with the angels.
00:18:25.420 It was always the angel
00:18:27.000 appearing to him
00:18:28.120 in the dream
00:18:28.960 informing him
00:18:30.240 of the Messiah
00:18:31.500 being in the womb
00:18:32.940 of Our Lady
00:18:33.420 by the Holy Spirit,
00:18:34.800 so a virginal conception
00:18:36.260 that Christ had come
00:18:38.520 and also the flight
00:18:40.060 into Egypt
00:18:41.040 and also in leaving Egypt
00:18:42.740 and then being told
00:18:44.340 to go to Nazareth,
00:18:45.780 that he was always
00:18:46.440 in conversation with,
00:18:48.640 whether it was
00:18:49.220 his guardian angel
00:18:50.100 or angels,
00:18:51.520 and I think that's important.
00:18:53.080 You know,
00:18:53.340 we are living
00:18:54.880 in the midst
00:18:56.240 of a huge spiritual battle.
00:18:58.560 I mean,
00:19:00.040 when you read
00:19:01.120 chapter 12
00:19:02.260 of the Apocalypse,
00:19:03.420 the book of Revelation,
00:19:04.920 you see the woman
00:19:06.160 clothed with the sun,
00:19:07.400 with the moon under her feet,
00:19:08.580 crowned with 12 stars.
00:19:10.140 You see this dragon
00:19:11.480 trying to destroy Christ
00:19:13.840 and her and her offspring.
00:19:15.920 You see the beast
00:19:16.860 coming up from the sea.
00:19:18.620 You see the beast
00:19:19.380 like a lamb
00:19:20.120 which would reflect betrayal
00:19:21.420 within the church.
00:19:22.980 And it's so complicated
00:19:24.460 and so huge.
00:19:25.880 And St. Michael
00:19:26.480 comes in with his angels
00:19:27.700 and like,
00:19:28.760 even if we don't understand
00:19:30.300 or see all of the depths
00:19:33.500 of all of the craziness,
00:19:35.680 one thing that we do know
00:19:37.360 is that there is
00:19:38.180 a spiritual battle going on
00:19:40.220 and that God has entrusted
00:19:42.140 to each one of us
00:19:43.440 a guardian angel
00:19:44.740 to protect us,
00:19:46.560 to guide us,
00:19:48.080 and with whom
00:19:49.480 we can adore our Lord.
00:19:51.580 And if souls are separated
00:19:53.640 from Christ
00:19:54.240 through the lockdown,
00:19:55.180 send your guardian angel
00:19:56.420 to the tabernacle,
00:19:57.440 to visit our Lord
00:19:58.740 and to bring you back
00:19:59.680 special graces,
00:20:01.380 that's what I would say.
00:20:03.060 You know,
00:20:03.220 I think that St. Joseph
00:20:04.100 teaches us
00:20:05.020 the importance
00:20:05.700 of being close to
00:20:07.980 and guided by
00:20:08.940 and protected by
00:20:10.020 our holy angels.
00:20:13.700 Yeah, again,
00:20:15.060 there's lots there
00:20:15.940 in what you said.
00:20:16.640 I'd like to just unpack a little.
00:20:18.720 There is a lot
00:20:19.900 of spiritual attack today.
00:20:22.340 As you mentioned,
00:20:24.080 the beasts in Revelation,
00:20:26.620 one looking like a lamb,
00:20:27.940 therefore it talks about
00:20:29.020 betrayal in the church.
00:20:30.000 That's happening.
00:20:31.020 And I think
00:20:31.580 there's a lot of people
00:20:33.140 who are very unsettled
00:20:34.240 because of
00:20:35.160 the various stances
00:20:36.760 taken by the hierarchy.
00:20:38.760 It started,
00:20:39.600 you know,
00:20:39.980 there's a lot of things
00:20:40.980 that people have lived through
00:20:42.000 for decades now
00:20:43.700 with the sort of
00:20:45.840 dismantling,
00:20:46.560 it seemed,
00:20:46.900 of the old
00:20:47.860 rite of the mass
00:20:48.720 and all sorts of things.
00:20:50.040 But it's come forward
00:20:51.000 in our day
00:20:51.540 where those who even
00:20:52.880 didn't have to struggle
00:20:53.580 through that time
00:20:54.460 had to face
00:20:55.660 what we're facing now
00:20:57.320 with just insanity,
00:20:59.600 both from the sexual abuse crisis,
00:21:01.280 but now to the crisis
00:21:02.500 of modernism,
00:21:03.240 which is affecting
00:21:04.020 the hierarchy of the church
00:21:05.380 like it never has before.
00:21:06.960 And it's just a,
00:21:08.100 it's very alarming.
00:21:09.680 But even beyond that,
00:21:11.540 because that,
00:21:12.260 while that's there,
00:21:13.060 that's unsettling
00:21:13.820 for a lot of people,
00:21:14.980 it's still somewhat remote.
00:21:17.640 the much more immediate thing
00:21:20.540 is the personal spiritual attack
00:21:24.540 that leads us
00:21:25.580 into a real separation
00:21:27.940 with Christ,
00:21:29.900 much more so
00:21:30.940 than even being denied
00:21:32.140 the access
00:21:32.820 to the Holy Sacrifice
00:21:33.700 of the Mass,
00:21:34.180 which has happened
00:21:34.880 to Catholics
00:21:35.820 since,
00:21:36.780 probably since the beginning,
00:21:38.500 where,
00:21:38.960 you know,
00:21:39.580 they're under persecution
00:21:40.340 so they can't go,
00:21:40.980 maybe even for the rest
00:21:41.680 of their lives,
00:21:42.220 but they had that
00:21:43.140 spiritual attachment
00:21:44.800 to our Lord
00:21:46.180 being in this state of grace.
00:21:47.400 But the kind of attack
00:21:49.020 that's happening today
00:21:49.920 with millions of people
00:21:51.000 being left at home,
00:21:52.360 they can't communicate
00:21:53.380 with others,
00:21:54.020 they go on the internet
00:21:54.760 and you're presented
00:21:56.300 with all sorts of,
00:21:57.600 well,
00:21:57.880 filth for one thing.
00:21:59.140 And that's one of those things
00:22:01.500 that actually drags you
00:22:02.740 out of that relationship.
00:22:04.400 And speak to us,
00:22:05.600 if you will,
00:22:06.100 about the role
00:22:08.040 of the angels,
00:22:09.540 of our guardian angels,
00:22:10.880 St. Michael the Archangel,
00:22:12.040 in helping us
00:22:13.140 to overcome
00:22:13.880 that spiritual attack.
00:22:15.140 Because a lot of it,
00:22:16.300 while we're tempted
00:22:17.340 by the world
00:22:18.080 and the flesh,
00:22:20.020 a lot of it's also,
00:22:21.100 I think,
00:22:21.720 satanic.
00:22:22.360 And I'm actually
00:22:23.940 interested to know,
00:22:24.820 how does that relationship
00:22:26.000 work between our guardian angel
00:22:27.200 and St. Michael
00:22:27.840 and who plays what role?
00:22:29.760 As you said,
00:22:30.420 the world,
00:22:30.800 the flesh,
00:22:31.140 and the devil.
00:22:31.800 And the analogy
00:22:33.400 that has been coming
00:22:34.260 to me recently
00:22:34.940 is I feel,
00:22:37.360 and I think we feel
00:22:38.180 naturally,
00:22:38.780 we feel like we're
00:22:39.500 palm trees
00:22:40.600 slowing down a hurricane.
00:22:42.920 Like,
00:22:43.380 naturally speaking,
00:22:43.900 we feel like we're
00:22:44.480 doing nothing
00:22:45.100 to stop this wave
00:22:47.040 of tsunami of evil
00:22:49.060 that's coming at us,
00:22:51.200 whether it's within the church
00:22:53.180 or in the world.
00:22:56.660 And like,
00:22:56.980 we see it
00:22:58.080 and experience it
00:22:58.800 a little bit,
00:22:59.240 but, you know,
00:22:59.800 we're not in a third world war,
00:23:02.000 at least not yet.
00:23:03.000 So it's still,
00:23:04.440 there's still a little bit
00:23:05.760 of peace there,
00:23:06.560 but we recognize
00:23:07.360 that the world
00:23:08.200 is slipping
00:23:08.760 in the direction
00:23:09.880 of evil
00:23:10.500 and corruption.
00:23:13.200 And that's where,
00:23:14.480 humanly speaking,
00:23:15.640 it's disparaging.
00:23:17.080 It's discouraging,
00:23:19.320 but we should not despair
00:23:20.700 because it's not
00:23:21.960 a natural battle.
00:23:25.200 Palm trees
00:23:25.740 are never going
00:23:26.500 to stop a hurricane,
00:23:27.800 but we know
00:23:28.460 that our Lord,
00:23:29.300 all He has to do
00:23:30.060 is command
00:23:30.620 and the winds stop.
00:23:32.800 So it's a spiritual battle,
00:23:34.380 and that's where we need
00:23:35.640 that supernatural perspective
00:23:37.000 that, yes,
00:23:38.220 David and Goliath,
00:23:39.360 it's a very
00:23:40.100 formidable story,
00:23:43.400 and yet that's the reality
00:23:45.160 that we find ourselves in.
00:23:46.580 But if we trust in God
00:23:48.040 and know that this is
00:23:49.440 a battle against powers
00:23:52.240 and principalities
00:23:53.220 of darkness,
00:23:54.920 wicked spirits,
00:23:56.140 evil spirits
00:23:56.840 that we can't see
00:23:58.060 or detect,
00:23:59.840 but knowing that
00:24:00.960 we have this legion
00:24:02.440 of angels,
00:24:04.360 our guardian angel
00:24:05.180 for us personally,
00:24:06.160 but there's a legion
00:24:06.960 just legions of angels
00:24:08.540 at Our Lady's disposal
00:24:09.920 to protect,
00:24:11.780 to guard,
00:24:12.400 and to do battle
00:24:13.300 for good,
00:24:14.940 it should encourage us,
00:24:16.360 obviously,
00:24:17.280 to invoke the angels,
00:24:19.600 St. Michael,
00:24:20.300 in a special way.
00:24:21.420 I mean,
00:24:21.620 they used to be
00:24:22.200 the prayer that was said
00:24:23.280 after every Mass,
00:24:24.560 you know,
00:24:24.840 that was part of
00:24:25.540 the Thanksgiving prayers
00:24:27.960 after Holy Mass,
00:24:29.180 and our bishop
00:24:30.260 and our diocese
00:24:31.140 has asked that
00:24:31.760 all the Masses
00:24:34.400 have the St. Michael
00:24:35.640 prayer said afterwards,
00:24:37.320 and I know that's
00:24:37.840 happened in other dioceses
00:24:38.900 as well,
00:24:39.960 and to pray frequently
00:24:41.120 to our guardian angels,
00:24:42.580 but that's,
00:24:43.460 I guess it's the,
00:24:44.740 what it requires of us
00:24:46.960 is the gift of faith
00:24:48.120 and knowing that
00:24:49.840 our angels
00:24:50.500 are there
00:24:52.100 and are doing battle
00:24:53.560 and that we are part
00:24:54.880 of a much bigger picture,
00:24:57.100 a much bigger picture,
00:24:58.780 and I think that's a problem
00:25:00.100 that a lot of people have,
00:25:02.240 certainly speaking as a man,
00:25:04.020 a lot of us have this problem
00:25:05.120 where our picture,
00:25:07.420 our world is too small,
00:25:09.540 and no,
00:25:10.880 and that's a lack of faith.
00:25:13.260 No, we're part of a huge
00:25:14.700 spiritual warfare.
00:25:15.900 We're in a battle,
00:25:17.120 and we are called
00:25:18.460 as men of God,
00:25:20.120 men and women of God,
00:25:21.260 but we are called
00:25:21.780 to take up spiritual arms,
00:25:23.560 and to do battle
00:25:25.260 with wicked spirits
00:25:27.160 and false doctrines
00:25:29.020 and heresy
00:25:30.060 and sin
00:25:31.280 by living a life of grace,
00:25:34.380 by praying,
00:25:35.960 by doing penance,
00:25:37.840 especially praying
00:25:38.940 the Holy Rosary
00:25:39.880 with attention,
00:25:41.000 reverence,
00:25:41.740 and devotion.
00:25:43.100 And if we do that,
00:25:44.720 we know
00:25:45.820 that the Immaculate Heart of Mary
00:25:47.260 will triumph in the world,
00:25:48.940 but also in our own lives,
00:25:50.580 and that's where
00:25:51.280 it has to start.
00:25:52.060 So no matter
00:25:53.040 what the circumstances,
00:25:54.240 you know, John Henry,
00:25:55.100 I always say this
00:25:56.040 over and over again
00:25:56.920 to my spiritual daughters,
00:25:58.140 the Carmelite nuns
00:25:59.000 in Fairfield
00:25:59.700 where I'm chaplain,
00:26:00.600 I say that
00:26:01.180 everything is a gift of God
00:26:03.580 which Jesus gives you
00:26:04.880 through the Immaculate Heart
00:26:05.860 of Mary.
00:26:07.260 Everything.
00:26:08.240 He's always trying
00:26:09.460 to draw you
00:26:10.460 closer to His sacred heart
00:26:12.440 through any circumstance,
00:26:14.940 and that's the perspective
00:26:16.340 that we have to have.
00:26:17.400 These lockdowns,
00:26:19.280 this COVID,
00:26:19.960 this is just
00:26:20.560 a dress rehearsal.
00:26:21.740 This isn't the Antichrist.
00:26:23.160 This is just
00:26:23.640 a dress rehearsal.
00:26:24.960 They're all taking notes
00:26:26.100 on how they can move
00:26:28.140 towards a global,
00:26:29.220 one-world government
00:26:30.100 without God,
00:26:31.460 without the true church,
00:26:33.320 and this is just...
00:26:34.860 But if we see
00:26:35.680 that God is in control
00:26:37.020 and that everything
00:26:38.000 is a gift
00:26:39.300 that He allows
00:26:40.340 to happen to us
00:26:41.500 to draw us closer
00:26:42.600 to Him
00:26:43.100 through the Immaculate Heart
00:26:43.920 of Mary,
00:26:44.860 we are victorious
00:26:47.660 because Christ is King,
00:26:49.840 Mary is Queen,
00:26:51.220 and our angels
00:26:52.160 will help us in that.
00:26:53.420 So I don't know
00:26:53.960 that I actually answered
00:26:55.020 your question.
00:26:55.660 I'm sorry about that.
00:26:57.700 No, that's great, Father.
00:27:00.460 Why don't we...
00:27:02.480 You know,
00:27:02.920 what you said
00:27:03.780 is very challenging
00:27:04.660 because it...
00:27:08.720 Because people do experience
00:27:09.940 real hardships
00:27:12.280 that are sometimes
00:27:13.500 seemingly hellish
00:27:14.600 and could easily
00:27:17.800 lead to despair,
00:27:18.860 whether it's from disease
00:27:19.940 or suffering attacks
00:27:23.700 or breakups
00:27:24.740 in relationships
00:27:25.580 where you really feel
00:27:27.720 that you're a victim
00:27:28.920 and maybe you've done 1.00
00:27:29.820 something stupid 1.00
00:27:30.520 and so on. 1.00
00:27:32.040 And there's a lot of this
00:27:33.160 heartache
00:27:34.300 and real suffering
00:27:37.060 from so many
00:27:38.880 different perspectives.
00:27:39.940 And yet,
00:27:40.900 the teaching of the Church
00:27:41.740 is, as you mentioned,
00:27:42.720 is that
00:27:43.340 it is a gift
00:27:46.780 for you,
00:27:49.060 to you,
00:27:50.240 from our Lord.
00:27:51.660 How do you explain that?
00:27:54.340 Cross.
00:27:55.020 It's the mystery
00:27:55.720 of the cross,
00:27:56.380 John Henry.
00:27:57.180 And, you know,
00:27:58.320 I always say this,
00:27:59.120 that we can love the cross,
00:28:01.380 we can embrace the cross,
00:28:03.520 it's still the cross.
00:28:05.180 It still hurts.
00:28:07.080 And the cross,
00:28:08.380 from my experience,
00:28:10.660 you know,
00:28:11.300 we have this idea,
00:28:12.380 like, especially when we
00:28:12.960 enter religious life,
00:28:13.600 oh, I'm going to carry the cross.
00:28:14.920 And we have this idea
00:28:15.540 of what the cross is.
00:28:17.220 And then we discover
00:28:18.600 that the cross
00:28:20.160 that we thought
00:28:20.640 we were going to be carrying,
00:28:21.860 it's a different cross.
00:28:24.120 We,
00:28:25.440 in other words,
00:28:26.660 it comes in forms
00:28:27.660 that we don't expect it.
00:28:30.240 You know,
00:28:30.800 I'll go back to
00:28:31.580 St. Maximilian Kolbe.
00:28:32.660 Do you think
00:28:32.980 St. Maximilian Kolbe
00:28:33.980 imagined that he was
00:28:34.840 going to be starved to death
00:28:36.120 in a concentration camp?
00:28:39.260 Absolutely not.
00:28:40.600 St. Joseph,
00:28:41.740 he never thought
00:28:42.640 he'd be married,
00:28:43.200 he got married.
00:28:43.780 Do you think he thought
00:28:44.420 he was going to be leading,
00:28:45.740 you know,
00:28:47.160 Jesus,
00:28:48.060 the King of Heaven and Earth,
00:28:49.260 and His Immaculate Mother
00:28:50.300 into a foreign land
00:28:51.720 while Herod was 0.93
00:28:52.480 slaughtering innocents
00:28:53.400 behind them?
00:28:55.280 So the cross,
00:28:56.600 it's,
00:28:57.680 you know,
00:28:57.980 we can't avoid the cross,
00:28:59.280 and when it comes,
00:29:00.360 it's very real.
00:29:01.480 I guess that's the point
00:29:02.160 I'm trying to say.
00:29:03.340 It doesn't take away
00:29:04.460 maybe the feelings,
00:29:05.920 the fear,
00:29:06.740 the struggle
00:29:09.400 that comes with it.
00:29:12.400 And so,
00:29:13.180 the cross,
00:29:13.900 everybody has a cross,
00:29:14.980 if I can say it this way,
00:29:15.900 everybody has a cross,
00:29:17.720 but with Jesus,
00:29:19.060 that cross has meaning.
00:29:21.600 So you think about people,
00:29:22.720 they're experiencing,
00:29:23.360 there's people all over the world
00:29:24.360 experiencing great hardships,
00:29:26.120 but they,
00:29:26.520 I don't know how they do it
00:29:27.580 without faith in God.
00:29:29.280 How do they do it?
00:29:30.440 Not knowing that Jesus
00:29:31.960 is with them
00:29:32.920 and suffered for them.
00:29:35.440 And that's the difference,
00:29:36.820 because when we experience
00:29:38.460 the cross,
00:29:39.460 our Lord is uniting us
00:29:41.220 more deeply to His heart,
00:29:43.160 which was pierced through,
00:29:44.980 for the glory of God the Father,
00:29:46.660 and leading us to glory.
00:29:48.800 And so for us,
00:29:49.700 the suffering,
00:29:50.380 it doesn't go away,
00:29:51.460 but it has meaning.
00:29:52.240 It has value.
00:29:54.620 And actually,
00:29:55.320 God uses it
00:29:56.260 not only to purge us
00:29:57.200 of sin
00:29:57.760 and purify our spirit,
00:29:59.580 but to unite us
00:30:00.700 to Him
00:30:01.760 who is being offered
00:30:02.900 day and night
00:30:03.920 in the holy sacrifice
00:30:05.100 of the Mass
00:30:05.840 to the glory of God the Father
00:30:07.660 for the salvation
00:30:09.260 and sanctification of souls.
00:30:10.580 And we get to unite ourselves
00:30:12.240 to His heart
00:30:13.360 in that very act
00:30:15.820 of offering Himself
00:30:17.080 on the cross.
00:30:22.260 If you can just,
00:30:24.420 and maybe we'll close off with this,
00:30:26.540 take us through that.
00:30:27.420 You are a spiritual father.
00:30:29.880 You are,
00:30:30.840 yes,
00:30:33.300 much more contemplative
00:30:34.780 than all of us lay people.
00:30:37.300 Tell us how,
00:30:38.640 if you will,
00:30:39.580 we can go about
00:30:41.100 coming to peace
00:30:42.600 with our crosses,
00:30:43.740 coming to that
00:30:45.480 place
00:30:47.140 of union
00:30:48.380 with our Lord
00:30:48.980 even when it seems
00:30:50.100 that we're deprived
00:30:51.800 of Him
00:30:52.200 and can't get to Mass.
00:30:53.580 Well,
00:30:54.180 if I had all those answers,
00:30:55.960 I'd probably
00:30:56.400 give them to myself.
00:30:57.780 I struggle like all of us
00:30:59.260 and have experienced
00:31:01.700 some very,
00:31:03.880 probably compared
00:31:04.540 to other people,
00:31:05.180 they don't seem like crosses,
00:31:06.760 but very difficult crosses
00:31:08.100 in my own life.
00:31:10.000 And,
00:31:10.380 you know,
00:31:10.660 you sort of
00:31:11.080 scratch your head
00:31:12.360 spiritually like,
00:31:13.700 you know,
00:31:13.920 I know the value
00:31:15.680 of the cross
00:31:16.360 and I know
00:31:17.080 what I'm supposed to do.
00:31:18.620 And yet,
00:31:19.300 in the midst
00:31:20.020 of the cross,
00:31:21.180 it just,
00:31:21.760 it's crucifixion.
00:31:23.500 It's overwhelming.
00:31:26.060 And so,
00:31:26.980 that's where I guess
00:31:27.740 it's important
00:31:28.620 to have that daily
00:31:29.740 life of prayer.
00:31:32.200 So,
00:31:32.820 meditating
00:31:33.160 on the scriptures,
00:31:35.480 praying the daily rosary
00:31:36.720 where you're actually
00:31:37.380 meditating
00:31:37.960 with Our Lady
00:31:38.780 on the joyful,
00:31:40.680 sorrowful,
00:31:41.360 the glorious mysteries,
00:31:43.160 so that Our Lady
00:31:44.900 is with you
00:31:45.780 and accompanying you
00:31:47.140 through the joys,
00:31:48.440 the sorrows,
00:31:49.020 and the glories
00:31:49.560 of your life.
00:31:52.280 And then,
00:31:53.220 uniting yourself
00:31:54.260 in all the
00:31:55.300 joys,
00:31:56.820 struggles,
00:31:57.740 difficulties,
00:31:58.820 everything,
00:31:59.300 uniting yourself
00:32:00.180 with the heart of Jesus
00:32:01.760 in the tabernacle,
00:32:03.500 in the Holy Eucharist,
00:32:05.040 whether it's
00:32:06.940 through a spiritual
00:32:07.740 communion,
00:32:08.820 adoration,
00:32:10.240 or attending
00:32:11.360 Holy Mass
00:32:12.000 and receiving
00:32:12.500 Holy Communion,
00:32:13.660 but just,
00:32:14.980 I think that's the key.
00:32:16.820 And I think I said
00:32:17.380 that in our interview
00:32:18.280 earlier this year,
00:32:20.280 John Henry,
00:32:21.000 is that really
00:32:22.160 seeing our lives
00:32:23.920 as an extension
00:32:24.680 of the Holy Mass.
00:32:26.760 And so,
00:32:27.560 if we can see that
00:32:28.480 in our daily lives,
00:32:30.340 that somehow
00:32:31.100 every facet
00:32:32.000 of our life
00:32:32.540 can be united
00:32:33.400 in some way
00:32:34.740 to the heart
00:32:35.540 of Jesus,
00:32:36.200 to some aspect
00:32:37.040 of His life,
00:32:38.760 and then that
00:32:39.500 animates the whole thing.
00:32:40.720 It makes our whole life
00:32:41.480 an extension
00:32:42.040 of the Mass
00:32:42.980 that we are offering
00:32:44.420 the body and blood,
00:32:46.220 soul and divinity
00:32:46.740 of Jesus
00:32:47.220 to the Father,
00:32:48.620 asking for His mercy
00:32:50.180 upon ourselves
00:32:51.100 and upon this world.
00:32:55.000 Awesome.
00:32:55.940 Awesome.
00:32:56.560 Father,
00:32:57.020 I know you're doing
00:32:58.240 something that
00:32:58.960 might help people
00:33:00.280 do exactly that.
00:33:02.120 Tell us a little bit
00:33:03.040 about that,
00:33:03.600 what you're doing,
00:33:04.260 where people
00:33:04.940 can find you
00:33:05.740 online,
00:33:07.340 and that would be great.
00:33:09.280 Thank you very much.
00:33:10.000 Yeah.
00:33:11.320 Well,
00:33:11.520 one of the things
00:33:12.000 that I do
00:33:12.540 just spiritually
00:33:13.560 for others,
00:33:14.340 but also to support
00:33:15.260 myself,
00:33:15.940 is I offer
00:33:17.100 a novena
00:33:19.080 of Latin Masses
00:33:20.220 that people can enroll
00:33:21.380 their family,
00:33:22.300 friends,
00:33:22.940 themselves,
00:33:23.560 their loved ones.
00:33:24.960 So this year
00:33:25.520 for Christmas,
00:33:26.360 I have
00:33:26.800 the nine
00:33:29.340 Latin Masses
00:33:30.060 that will be offered.
00:33:31.180 Most of the Masses
00:33:31.960 will be offered
00:33:32.520 at the High Altar
00:33:34.280 of the Carmelite
00:33:35.620 Nuns in Fairfield.
00:33:37.140 I think one,
00:33:38.160 maybe more,
00:33:38.940 but one of those Masses
00:33:39.740 will be offered
00:33:40.240 in my private chapel.
00:33:42.640 But it's an opportunity
00:33:43.880 for people
00:33:44.320 to enroll themselves
00:33:45.420 and others
00:33:46.240 in these Holy Masses,
00:33:47.780 and there's an option
00:33:48.960 to have a Christmas card
00:33:50.680 with the enrollment
00:33:51.860 sent to the person.
00:33:53.640 I fill those out.
00:33:54.900 And also,
00:33:55.640 there's an option
00:33:56.400 if people want
00:33:57.340 my latest CD
00:33:58.900 of Catholic music.
00:34:00.800 It has that song,
00:34:01.600 Tell Us,
00:34:02.060 Dear Joseph,
00:34:02.700 on there
00:34:03.180 so that they can make
00:34:04.660 a kind of a gift
00:34:05.440 sent.
00:34:06.860 So that's how
00:34:07.540 I support myself,
00:34:08.400 John Henry,
00:34:08.900 and I love it
00:34:09.400 because I support myself
00:34:11.100 by praying
00:34:11.580 for all these
00:34:12.140 beautiful souls
00:34:13.140 that are asking
00:34:14.580 for these,
00:34:15.180 not only for the Masses,
00:34:16.160 but I also pray
00:34:16.820 for them every day
00:34:17.920 in the memento
00:34:18.720 of my Mass.
00:34:19.360 I pray for those
00:34:20.080 who enroll
00:34:20.520 in my novenas.
00:34:22.160 So just encourage
00:34:23.580 them to take a look.
00:34:24.440 The website is
00:34:25.660 novenamasses.org
00:34:27.500 So it's pretty easy
00:34:29.800 to...
00:34:30.520 Excellent.
00:34:32.640 Excellent.
00:34:33.720 Father Maximilian Mary,
00:34:35.020 thank you so very much
00:34:36.100 for being with us
00:34:36.760 on this episode
00:34:37.300 of the John Henry Weston Show.
00:34:39.900 If you wouldn't mind
00:34:40.980 concluding with giving us
00:34:42.040 all your blessing,
00:34:43.040 that would be awesome.
00:34:44.040 Yeah,
00:34:44.240 through the intercession
00:34:44.980 of the Immaculate Heart of Mary
00:34:46.640 and good Saint Joseph
00:34:47.900 and all of the Holy Angels,
00:34:49.940 I pray that Almighty God
00:34:50.860 bless you and keep you
00:34:52.080 in the name of the Father
00:34:52.940 and of the Son
00:34:53.700 and of the Holy Ghost.
00:34:54.960 Amen.
00:34:57.280 Amen.
00:34:58.320 Thank you, Father Maximilian.
00:34:59.200 Thank you.
00:34:59.720 God bless you.
00:35:00.300 And thanks to all of you.
00:35:01.800 We'll see you next time.
00:35:23.700 God bless you.
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