The John-Henry Westen Show - Michael Matt blows lid off German church, calls on Catholic to be 'militant'

00:00:00.000 Hello, this is John Henry Weston. Welcome to the John Henry Weston Show.

00:00:03.240 And this week, I'm very pleased to bring you a guest you all know very well.

00:00:06.520 His name is Michael Matt.

00:00:08.120 We're going to talk about the Acce Zordonnade here in Munich, Germany.

00:00:11.600 Stay tuned.

00:00:30.000 Some people were a little upset, a little sad, because they thought there should be, you

00:00:47.620 know, more people here.

00:00:48.640 But that's really not the idea of a large number.

00:00:51.540 And I think with you, and I know you help out a lot with the organization, so correct me

00:00:54.740 if I'm wrong.

00:00:55.860 But I think what the idea is, we're not looking for, unless we could bring 10,000 people

00:01:00.220 to Munich to really put out a display, it's more important to have representation from

00:01:05.100 10,000 people around the world or more.

00:01:07.480 And so they bring in, it's more of an invitation-only kind of thing, mostly lay people.

00:01:11.500 And they bring them all here to represent their various constituencies.

00:01:14.960 And the idea is to not make a lot of noise, not to point at ourselves and bang drums and

00:01:18.960 fly our flags and whatnot, but just to remind all the passersby of the importance of prayer

00:01:24.780 and resistance to silence.

00:01:26.400 And this really is very counter-cultural, counter-revolutionary, because people nowadays

00:01:30.380 in the age of social media and everything else, this is a very strange spectacle.

00:01:34.680 You see all these, you know, men, women standing and not trying to make a spectacle, but just

00:01:39.700 the spectacle, the prayer itself, people who still believe in the modern world, create

00:01:44.020 something of a spectacle, alas, with most of people, most modern people.

00:01:47.880 So they stop and they ask questions, and then we're able to, you know, answer those questions

00:01:52.620 and say, these people believe there's something very wrong in the church, and they're trying

00:01:56.460 to draw attention to two things, the need to pray for what's happening in the church, because

00:02:01.000 the church affects all mankind.

00:02:02.800 It doesn't just affect Catholics, as we see with the world going insane right now in every

00:02:07.180 way.

00:02:08.100 And also to remind people we need to resist.

00:02:10.860 You know, this is this, no resistance can do anything, as Pope Pius X said, that doesn't

00:02:15.880 start with prayer, but by the same token, you can't just say, we're going to let God

00:02:19.980 take care of it.

00:02:20.900 You pray, you educate yourself, and then you go to war, and that's what the Acius Wodinata 0.99

00:02:25.060 has done, I think, so beautifully.

00:02:27.200 Okay, so Michael, in Germany, all citizens pay a church tax.

00:02:31.860 That is, if they're Catholic, they pay the taxes that they have to pay. 0.84

00:02:36.000 But Professor Roberto Di Mattei, among others, is calling on Germans, German Catholics, not

00:02:41.680 actually to pay the tax.

00:02:43.460 So what are the implications of this?

00:02:45.400 Yeah, well, I think it's time, because there's a certain risk involved.

00:02:48.980 If you decide you're not going to pay this tax anymore, you run the risk of excommunication.

00:02:53.940 You run the risk of dying without the sacraments.

00:02:56.260 I mean, it's a really ruthless system.

00:02:58.260 And so there was a very clear clarion call at the press conference for people to say,

00:03:01.920 we may have to suffer.

00:03:03.280 People in Germany may have a different style or a different way of suffering.

00:03:07.600 For example, if they stop paying this ridiculous tax, they may, as far as the world, part of the 0.66

00:03:12.660 church is concerned, look like excommunicated Catholics all of a sudden. 0.99

00:03:16.240 But it's really so important that that happens, that they take that risk and that they stand

00:03:20.060 and not go along with the system.

00:03:21.740 Because the synodal way, as they call it here in the German bishops' conference, this is

00:03:27.460 not a German problem.

00:03:28.840 This is, they fight, the German bishops financially back the Amazon Senate.

00:03:32.700 And what they're talking about is the implementation of the errors and the heresies of the Amazon

00:03:37.400 Senate.

00:03:37.800 And so things like women priests, the abolition of celibacy, gay unions, all of these things

00:03:43.580 are now sort of being disseminated throughout the church if the German bishops' conference

00:03:47.520 gets its way.

00:03:48.820 And so the press conference was, I think, very, very important.

00:03:51.160 Many Germans were there.

00:03:52.360 I was so glad that you gave your presentation, your intervention in German.

00:03:55.640 So we had a real sort of multinational, several languages up there.

00:03:59.480 And the Germans, the Catholics that were here, I'm a German-American Catholic.

00:04:02.580 So I really, I was so happy to see their response to this press conference.

00:04:06.680 So they're saying, yes, we want to get, we want to get involved.

00:04:09.040 They were so happy that the Axios Lodianate came here because then they had some pointers 0.97

00:04:13.420 and then there was some networking on how they can start something similar here in Germany

00:04:17.260 to try to do the same thing, to prevent what's happening to their, to the church that they

00:04:21.120 love here in Germany.

00:04:22.060 So we're all often accused of being divisive.

00:04:26.640 So, Michael, why do you do what you do?

00:04:29.920 Men and the women, the faithful Catholics of the time, in cooperation with God's grace,

00:04:34.040 understood that as a soldier of Jesus Christ, as a member of the church militant, I mean,

00:04:39.400 Mother Church gives us that category of church militant for a reason, because we must be not

00:04:43.660 only militant to save our souls, but militant to save the souls of those around us, to save

00:04:47.620 the souls of the world, if you will.

00:04:49.460 And so, Pope Francis is not some anomaly.

00:04:53.340 There's been a, as you know, a revolution's been going on against the church for a very,

00:04:57.600 very long time.

00:04:58.100 The church is so strong, but really it took hundreds of years to get the church to this

00:05:02.780 point.

00:05:03.800 And so it's up to all of us to understand what's happening.

00:05:06.780 And that if right now with the, with the curia, the changes in the curia that are coming

00:05:10.580 out in 2020, we're going to see a new face of the curia, the Roman curia within the next

00:05:15.800 year.

00:05:16.180 And it's going to be radically changed in the image and likeness of what Francis wants

00:05:19.420 to have in the church.

00:05:20.520 This is not the time therefore to sit back and relax.

00:05:23.060 We have to make them, make the church leadership, the human element of the church, understand

00:05:27.220 there are going to be consequences.

00:05:29.400 There's going to be a price to pay.

00:05:31.420 Lay Catholics are not going to be silent in the face of this.

00:05:34.220 And it's not just that we want to, we don't want to be causing trouble, of course, but we

00:05:39.060 have an obligation.

00:05:39.980 As a baptized and confirmed Catholic, you have an obligation to stand, not for your opinion, 0.80

00:05:44.680 but for the tradition of Holy Mother Church, which has been handed down to us.

00:05:47.480 We have an obligation to practice the faith and then make sure it's still alive enough to

00:05:51.860 hand down to the future generations.

00:05:53.680 It goes through us.

00:05:54.700 The faith survives through us, through every generation.

00:05:57.140 And we have an obligation to make sure it survives in its integrity.

00:06:00.460 As a father, what does this fight mean to you?

00:06:04.180 I'm a father too, of eight children, and I know you have seven kids.

00:06:07.840 So tell me as a father, what does this fight mean?

00:06:11.280 Well, I can even just check my own memory, you know, from when I was young, the availability

00:06:17.260 of confession, for example, even when I was young, growing up in the 70s, priests all

00:06:22.280 the time, over here in the week, Saturday, multiple confessions, that's changing.

00:06:25.940 You know, we're getting fewer and fewer priests, not only because there are more modern-minded

00:06:29.660 priests that don't want to have confession, but make it that available, but the number of

00:06:33.340 priests are decreasing.

00:06:34.600 So that's a terrifying thought.

00:06:36.340 And we really have to look at it as fathers.

00:06:38.380 Like, what happens if 25, 30 years from now, our children either don't have a place to go

00:06:43.060 to confession, or they have to drive 50 miles, I mean, it's happened before, it's happened

00:06:46.700 in France, it's happened in Mexico, where revolutions came, and access to the sacraments

00:06:50.820 was denied.

00:06:51.880 I've got a 23-year-old son who just had a very serious accident back home, and, you know,

00:06:58.220 he had the accident, he had to go to the hospital, and in the middle of the night, a friend of

00:07:03.020 mine, and he wasn't where he grew up, he was at school, a friend of mine called a priest

00:07:07.380 of the Institute of Christ the King, this priest doesn't know my son, but he got up in the

00:07:11.160 middle of the night, went to the hospital, and he's pretty much been with him off and

00:07:14.980 on ever since, because, I mean, it comes to him in the passage, he clears away the tray

00:07:19.040 where my son's, you know, foods and medications were, in order to set up for the Eucharist,

00:07:23.740 in the middle of the night, he had this confession, promises to come in, this is the old Catholic, 0.92

00:07:28.020 this is Holy Mother Church in the lives of all of us, and it's made such a difference

00:07:32.440 to my son, who's going through an ordeal right now, to have the church come to him like

00:07:36.440 this, in manly fashion, with young priests, dressed as priests, willing to sacrifice

00:07:41.140 everything in order to administer to us and to our children.

00:07:44.680 We have to preserve that, because it's not about having a good, jolly time and sing at

00:07:49.880 Mass or whatever, it's about that, it's about the sacramental grace of the church being

00:07:54.780 available to, made available to us by priests who are willing to sacrifice, not only sacrifice

00:07:59.540 getting up in the middle of the night, but as we're here with the Eucharist, to sacrifice

00:08:04.380 celibacy, I mean, to be celibate men, to show other young people, to show all of our families,

00:08:09.060 all of our children, that they're willing to die for this, and they're willing to sacrifice

00:08:12.660 for this, and give the gift of their own celibacy to God, you know, and that's what's at stake

00:08:18.360 here, they're trying to get rid of that idea, and politicize and put ideology into it, let's

00:08:23.000 get women priests, let's get married priests, let's just mess with the whole thing, and what 1.00

00:08:27.200 we risk as fathers is having our future generations not have access to not only the beauty of Mother

00:08:33.700 Church, but the grace of the sacraments, literally that's what's at stake here, and we have to make sure

00:08:38.040 that we fight against what's happening, encourage vocations, and make people understand the

00:08:44.200 importance of the old established traditions of the church, because these are 2,000 years old,

00:08:49.140 the priesthood developed over 2,000 years to where it is now, and yet a conference like the German 0.99

00:08:54.600 Catholic bishops, they think they've got a better idea, that they're going to change this, and

00:08:57.660 they'll abolish and bring women in, it's not going to work, but these are the errors that were already 1.00

00:09:01.720 compensated for a long time ago with the celibacy and so forth of the priesthood, so I think it's

00:09:06.620 really, really important that, especially as fathers with children, that we understand our

00:09:10.940 role to stand and resist what they're doing, because they're politicizing the church, and

00:09:15.140 they're taking chances, not only with their own souls, but with the souls of our children,

00:09:20.140 who may not have access to the sacraments in the years to come.

00:09:22.800 Michael, you came to this event just days after your own son was involved in a very serious accident.

00:09:30.280 That must have been very difficult. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

00:09:33.500 Yeah, it's a really major accident, and beautifully enough, and I wouldn't call this a brag, I would

00:09:39.880 call this, this is what the church, when you live the faith, authentically, this is what it instills

00:09:45.240 in me, even in young people. My son's no saint, but I, of course, said I'm not going to go. He's in the

00:09:49.680 hospital right now, and I said, I can't go to Germany, I can't do this. He was supposed to come with me on

00:09:53.920 this trip to do some video work, and he said, he said, he said, Dad, this is war. We're at war for the faith,

00:09:59.020 and I need to, I need to do what, this is what happened to me. I, you know, it's my issue. I'll

00:10:04.720 take care of this, but you need to go and do that, because it's good, because souls are at stake,

00:10:08.720 and you need to make sure that, you know, you don't abandon this, this particular battle that's

00:10:12.920 a very important battle. 22-year-old kid, you know, and he's, he's been a, he's studied the Vendée,

00:10:18.960 he's gone to the Vendée in France, and they've seen that militancy of our forefathers in the past,

00:10:23.740 in the France, in the other countries, and young people, it resonates with them. They're ready to

00:10:28.500 die for it, but what we have to do is give them something, tell them the true stories, give them

00:10:33.040 something to die for, and as far as I'm concerned, the German bishops are doing, they're trying to

00:10:37.400 take it all away, and they can do the political nonsense that young people are so totally disinterested 0.82

00:10:42.820 in. You have images of German bishops running around churches with balloons, you know, like this

00:10:48.060 is going to be somehow meaningful to young people, that they're so woke to doing goofy things in

00:10:52.920 church, especially the German bishops. Well, young people are hemorrhaging out of the church,

00:10:57.260 they want no part of this, but you tell them the old stories, you raise them in the traditional

00:11:01.220 faith, traditional Latin mass, you tell them what their forefathers did in defense of the faith,

00:11:05.540 young people are waiting for this, they want their orders, they want to be told, live the faith,

00:11:10.440 here's what it is, and here's the beauty of the faith, the honor, the honor of standing in defense

00:11:15.180 of the faith under attack, that forms a crusade mentality, and these kids are ready to die for it,

00:11:19.880 as long as they know that their fathers are ready to die for it, and that their priests are ready to

00:11:23.840 die for it, and that it really is just that important. Yeah, and what a kind of a, if you

00:11:29.560 will, a sacrifice, a kind of a mortifying death sacrifice that your son gives, and telling you 0.88

00:11:35.680 to go while he's had a serious accident, you have to go dead anyway, I don't get to go with you, 0.98

00:11:40.860 that's okay on me, but you go anyway. So he then misses your presence there, he's already sacrificing,

00:11:46.780 having not to go, and having a serious accident. It's an amazing thing, let's pray that many,

00:11:51.840 many, many young Catholic youth are like your son. Well, thanks, I hope so, I hope so, yeah.

00:11:57.820 Michael, thank you again for being with us on the John Henry Weston Show. God bless you.

00:12:01.240 God bless you, you have the great work.

00:12:02.840 Thank you, my friend. Thanks.

00:12:04.560 And we'll see you next time.

00:12:06.120 We'll see you next time.

The John-Henry Westen Show - January 22, 2020

Michael Matt blows lid off German church, calls on Catholic to be 'militant'

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