New Uncertainties for Traditional Catholics Following Death of Pope Benedict XVI
Summary
On this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show, we take a look at President Joe Biden's odd response to a question about whether he would attend Pope Benedict XVI's funeral, and why he chose not to go.
Transcript
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This is John Henry Weston coming to you from Rome on this January 5th, 2023.
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We are here at the funeral of Pope Benedict XVI.
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As you can see behind me, there's still the fog lifting in the morning.
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It's a cool 5 degrees Celsius here, and we just passed by hundreds,
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if not thousands of priests and religious queuing to get into the funeral.
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As you can see, media crowding behind us here as we all cover this historic day.
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On this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show,
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we're going to have a look at President Biden's kind of very odd response
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to his press secretary saying that Pope Benedict seemed to not want the Bidens to come.
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These sort of Catholic leaders from America are not here.
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The Queen of Spain and her husband, Juan Carlos, maybe, we're not sure yet.
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Also, the King of Belgium, King Philippe, was here as well.
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Of course, the Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, from Hungary was here.
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We're going to bring you that and much more on this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show.
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Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
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Let's pray, especially for the repose of the soul of Pope Benedict,
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I want to take you back a couple days now to President Biden.
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President Biden, who fancies himself a Catholic, was asked if he was going to the funeral.
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First of all, what he thought about Pope Benedict.
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What did Pope Benedict mean to you as a Catholic?
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Well, I had an opportunity to spend some time with Pope Benedict, a couple hours.
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And he was a great, it reminded me of going back to the theology class.
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We spoke about Aquinas and about human theologica and the whole way.
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I found him to be relaxing, very rational, and he was more conservative than you,
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within the Catholic realm than I have, especially with both the present folks,
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You're not attending his funeral tomorrow, though.
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The reason I'm not attending the funeral tomorrow is because it takes an entourage of
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But we would move everything in the wrong direction.
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And the people are sending, mostly the apostolic delegates, the folks in Rome.
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He says, you know, how undiplomatic can you get?
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But he's saying he is much more in common with Pope Francis.
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And he says that, you know, Benedict is conservative.
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But then this nonsense about, are you going, no, and then why do you think?
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And then when pressed on it, then he gives some cockamamie answer about how to take a
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We got a little bit more clarity, maybe, from the press secretary.
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Check out these comments from President Biden's press secretary.
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As the president said in his statement, as I'm sure you saw, he joins Catholics and so
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many others around the world in mourning the passing of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
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He will always remember the Pope's generosity and meaningful conversation they had when he
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So to answer your question, the U.S. ambassador to the Holy See, Joe Donnelly, will represent the
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United States at the funeral of the Pope in line with the wishes of the late Pope and
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So that's exactly why we have commentary all around Rome now that Pope Benedict himself
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You might have seen our coverage from yesterday.
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We had gone in to see the body of Pope Benedict, to pray for him there.
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Had a great talk with our Rome correspondent, Michael Haynes, talking about Benedict and the
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We had a great interview with Bishop Schneider, who regrets that he can't be here, but gave
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I encourage you to go watch that show from yesterday.
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But just before, we're going to go in now to the funeral of Pope Benedict.
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But just before we do, you really need to have a glimpse of Pope Benedict in his younger
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I know many of you have seen him now, an aging, aging man and someone who, you know, can hardly
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And we've seen him kind of in a way these last number of years, like we did John Paul
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In fact, he was actually, believe it or not, two years longer in retirement from the papacy
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But here's a glimpse of Pope Benedict really in his glory days.
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In fact, this is when he was still Cardinal Ratzinger, he spoke about what would become
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Sumorum Pontificum, that great document that will forever be his legacy to restore the traditional
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This was a conversation he had before becoming Pope with Raymond Arroyo on EWTN about Latin
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in the Mass, about the Latin Mass, and about its need to continue.
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And that would, had someone seen that then, could have prophesied Sumorum Pontificum.
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Take a look and listen to his excellent English.
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Generally, I think it was good to translate the liturgy in the spoken languages, because
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we will understand, we will participate also with our thinking.
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But a stronger presence of some elements of Latin would be helpful to give the universal
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dimension, to give the possibility that in all the parts of the world, we can see I am
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So generally, popular language is a good solution.
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But some presence of Latin could be helpful to have more experience of universality.
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I know you are working on those new liturgical, this new liturgical piece of legislation that
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the Pope previewed in his encyclical on the Eucharist.
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We have been hearing a great deal from Cardinal Lorenze and in some publications that this
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may be a precursor to a universal indult for the Tridentine Mass.
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I would distinguish between the future document and the problem of the indult.
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The future document is not a new legislation, but interpretation of given norms.
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So we have only to interpret, to clarify what is abuse and what is really application of the
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In this sense, it's very limited, the possibility of this document, a clarification of abuses and
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I think generally the old liturgy was never prohibited.
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We need only norms how in peace apply it so that the Reformed liturgy is the normal liturgy
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But there also is always a valid liturgy of the church can be used, but in obedience to
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And that's a great challenge, I know, in some parts of the church and in other parts of
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They've embraced the Pope's call for more frequent practice.
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Yes, I think it's important to be open to this possibility and to demonstrate also the
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Now you know this man, you've been able to see him, hear him in our own tongue.
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Yes, with a German accent, but it was so beautiful to get to know Benedict a little bit better.
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So with that in your mind and in your heart, won't you join us right now?
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We're going to go in and take in the funeral of Pope Benedict XVI.
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And here you can see the pallbearers are bringing out the body of Benedict XVI in a cypress wood
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This casket actually will be later today placed into a zinc coffin and finally covered in a
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wood case to be buried under St. Peter's Basilica.
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And as you can see here, there are tens of thousands of faithful here in St. Peter's Square
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We are up here on the colonnade of St. Peter's right on top of the columns.
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That's why you can see these beautiful views of the cardinals, the bishops processing in.
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And as you can hear now, the beginning of the hymns for the funeral mass of Pope Benedict XVI.
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We're so pleased to bring you this coverage, really with a view to you joining us in prayer
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And here is Pope Francis being wheeled out in his wheelchair into the square, packed again
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Jim is filming here from atop the colonnade in St. Peter's Square at the funeral of Pope
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Benedict, who from the age of five wanted to give his life to the priesthood of Jesus Christ.
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So here in the entrance antiphon, or entrance hymn there singing, eternal rest, grant unto
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him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him.
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To you we pay our vows, you who hear our prayer.
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To you all flesh will come with its burden of sin.
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Too heavy for us our offenses, but you wipe them away.
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Blessed he whom you choose and call to dwell in your courts.
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We are filled with the blessings of your house, of your holy temple.
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You keep your pledge with wonders, O God our Savior, the hope of all the earth and of far
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O God, who in your wondrous providence chose your servant Benedict to preside over your church,
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grant, we pray, that having served as the vicar of your Son on earth, he may be welcomed by
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These again are the verses, the prayers, being offered here at this papal funeral Mass of
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They're saying, now remember your servant Pope Emeritus Benedict, whom you chose, whom you
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Grant that he who was united with your Son in a death like his, may also be one with him
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in his resurrection, when from the earth he will raise up in the flesh those who have
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died and transform our lowly body after the pattern of his own glorious body.
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As we receive sacred sustenance from your charity, O Lord, we pray that your servant Benedict,
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who was a faithful steward of your mysteries on earth, may praise your mercy forever in the
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In his homily, Pope Francis is saying, God's faithful people gathered here now accompanies
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and entrusts him through the life of the one who was their pastor.
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Like the women at the tomb, we too have come with the fragrance of gratitude and the balm of hope
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in order to show him once more the love that is undying.
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We want to do this with the same wisdom, tenderness and devotion that he bestowed upon us over the years.
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Together we want to say, Father, into your hands we commend his spirit.
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Benedict, faithful friend of the Bridegroom, may your joy be complete as you hear his voice now and forever.
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So after, these are some of the prayers being said by Pope Francis.
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Dear brothers and sisters, in celebrating the sacred mysteries, we have opened our minds and hearts to joy-filled hope.
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With confidence, we now offer our final farewell to Pope Emeritus Benedict and commend him to God,
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Father, deliver Pope Emeritus Benedict from death, that he may sing God's praises in the heavenly Jerusalem,
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in expectation of the resurrection of his mortal body on the last day.
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May the Blessed Virgin Mary, Queen of the Apostles and Sallus Populi Romani,
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that he may reveal the face of Jesus, his Son, to Pope Emeritus Benedict
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and console the Church on her pilgrimage through history as she awaits the Lord's return.
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we commend to your mercy, Pope Emeritus Benedict,
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whom you made successor of Peter and shepherd of the Church,
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a fearless preacher of your Word and a faithful minister of the Divine Mysteries.
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Welcome him, we pray, into your heavenly dwelling place,
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to enjoy eternal glory with all your chosen ones.
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We give you thanks, Lord, for all the blessings that in your goodness you bestowed upon him
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And now we have the Skola Choir singing the beautiful hymn,
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May the martyrs come and welcome you and take you to the Holy City
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The funeral mass for Pope Benedict XVI has just concluded.
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In fact, the Bavarian marching band continues down
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via della Conciliazione, away from the Vatican,
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as well as thousands of prelates and religious.
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It was freezing cold, not as cold as Canada, of course,
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but it was still cold, especially for the Romans.
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You'll notice they're all in parkas and hats and everything else.
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But I hope you've joined us in praying for the Holy Father.
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just to discuss your reactions to the funeral mass
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It's always an impressive moment to see a papal funeral.
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And I think particularly Pope Benedict was the pope
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And to see him lying there, as we were discussing,
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just in a simple coffin, very, very simple coffin,
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except for the, as you say, the hundreds of prelates,
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the thousands of priests gathered around in the square.
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And then it's even rarer to get a pope bearing another pope.
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I found very moving to see Cardinal Zen come in
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and he was sitting on the front row of the cardinals there.
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He got permission from the Chinese Communist Party
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Yes, and himself having suffered, I would think, a lot
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What's going on with the coffin is interesting.
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and then buried in the crypt under St. Peter's there.
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What is the symbolism of a lot of what's gone on?
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But what is the point of making such a big deal
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of a funeral mass for the send-off of Pope Benedict?
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What's the church's sort of goal in having this mass?
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For every priest, he has charge of his flock in the parish.
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But for a Pope, he has charge of the souls of the church,
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and it's something which is too easy to forget,
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This is for the first time we have, on film anyway,
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And so, it gives me great pleasure to introduce all of you
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And really, we're trying to get to know the lay of the land.
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that you were at, and what you thought of things.
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One of the things Pope Benedict liked, I think,
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which may have been the final blow for Pope Benedict.
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But one thing I wanted to share with everybody,
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you've been reading the book from Peter Zebalt,
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I know you're only about halfway through or so.
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and look down at that simple wooden casket today