In this episode of The John Henry Weston Show, Dr. Michael Paunio and Dr. Frank Wright join me to discuss the theory that there is a neo-Malthusian, globalist, neo-Marxist religion at the heart of the World Economic Forum.
00:00:00.000Professor Paunio's contention is that there does exist, as it were, a parallel pagan-type religion, which can be traced back far beyond the foundings of organisations such as the Club of Rome, which in 1968 really hit the news in the publication of a book, which was intended as a kind of neo-Malthusian manifesto.
00:00:21.300So what Professor Paunio's work does in this regard is it shows how these globalists, as it were, or people such as the World Economic Forum pushing things like the Great Reset, instrumentalise an agenda of fear and doom, a catastrophic narrative, in order to recommend themselves as a necessary solution.
00:01:11.440And that's what we're going to look at in today's episode of The John Henry Weston Show. We have with us a guest, Miko Paunico is his name, Miko Professor, Miko Paunico.
00:01:23.040And he joins us today along with Frank Wright, whom you all know from his writing at LifeSite News.
00:01:30.520Now, get this. Professor Paunico is an epidemiologist who has worked for a number of public health institutions in his native Finland, as well as a brief spell at the World Bank, and he's currently Senior Medical Officer in the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health of Finland.
00:01:47.280His work as a scientific and policy advisor has seen him involved in state-level meetings across Europe and the United States.
00:01:54.520And it's he who has done the research in this, he who has been involved with these kind of people in very elevated positions.
00:02:06.620And I think the conclusions that he draws, the evidence that he brings forward, are going to startle you.
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00:04:29.500So, Frank, if you could start off by introducing us to our very interesting guest.
00:04:36.540Well, Professor Paunio got in touch with me following some remarks I made in a previous video, which we were about the magic mountain and the magic mountain referred to the, well, to the self-confessed idea of Davos by Klaus Schwab.
00:04:50.280He said that he'd chosen the mountain site of Davos because it was the site of Thomas Madden's Magic Mountain, which was a novel that took place in a sanitarium, a collection of rather rum characters, oddly enough, who gathered together and were inspired by certain occult theories.
00:05:08.180Following this, of course, Professor Paunio got in touch with me to say that there was far more to this than a mere passing resemblance.
00:05:14.600It's neo-paganism that draws on a 19th century tradition going back to Madame Blavatsky through, obviously, developments such as anthroposophy, which has influenced people like Rudolf Steiner.
00:05:23.440And he claims to have met people and experienced this at the highest level of government in Finland and in European and international organizations.
00:05:30.840So, I was compelled to get in touch with him.
00:05:33.060And I found what he had to say was quite remarkable and very well researched.
00:05:37.160Miko, if you could tell us, please, about your background that leads you not only to believe what you're doing through your research, but also having experienced it yourself in government itself.
00:05:47.820The saga or the odyssey began when I'm a measles expert and one of the beliefs, basic beliefs of Rudolf Steiner was that you have to contract measles as a child.
00:06:02.820And this leads to, for example, for example, in Germany, they have Waldorf or Steiner schools, they have continuously outbreaks there.
00:06:13.840So, I got interested in this cult because he really, in one of his inner space flights, he found out that it is of immense importance that a child contracts measles in order to have his or her soul journey.
00:06:42.480Okay. So, just before we continue, when you say inner space flights, you're not talking about an airplane flight.
00:06:49.120You're talking about some kind of meditative sort of thing, right?
00:06:57.280And then, later on, when I was hired as a young medical researcher to study energy issues and to make comparative risk assessment for government of life cycle analysis of different energy sources,
00:07:17.040I came across with a guy called Pentti Malaska, who became later on world president in future studies, and he was a very ardent anti-nuclear crusader.
00:07:39.280And later on, I found out that he belonged to these occult circles and believed in these theosophical ideas.
00:07:53.540So, Frank, you're telling us that Mikos had dealings also with heads of state and stuff that are also into this kind of occult belief or practice.
00:08:04.480Yes. And not only this, quite apart from, well, we hear quite a lot about the kind of sulphur-fumed, wreathed people of these supranational organisations.
00:08:13.660But Professor Paunio's contention is that there does exist, as it were, a parallel pagan-type religion, which can be traced back far beyond the foundings of organisations such as the Club of Rome,
00:08:28.640which in 1968 really hit the news in the publication of a book, which was intended as a kind of neo-Malthusian manifesto.
00:08:36.540So, what Professor Paunio's work does in this regard is it shows how these globalists, as it were, or people such as the World Economic Forum pushing things like the Great Reset,
00:08:47.540instrumentalise the, well, an agenda of fear and doom, a catastrophic narrative, in order to recommend themselves as a necessary solution.
00:08:56.680Now, the limits to growth in 1968 was a perfect example of this, which was launched by the Club of Rome, which still exists.
00:09:06.460It's a collection of around 100 technocrats, government leaders, business people, and so on,
00:09:12.460who get together and try and present themselves as a solution to this neo-Malthusian collapse mythology that they've invented.
00:09:19.380Professor Paunio rightfully indicates it is a mythology.
00:09:21.900It was debunked at the time as such, but it still gets enormous press coverage.
00:09:27.220Why? Professor Paunio maintains that the very people who control the media are themselves fans of this old, new, earth-worshipping religion,
00:09:37.040which, at basis, is deeply misanthropic.
00:09:40.080Secondly, his ideas are remarkable in such as that he demonstrates where their fantasy worldview comes from.
00:09:46.940So much of contemporary ideology, in terms of foreign relations, domestic policy, energy policy, great reset and net zero,
00:09:55.200simply seems to be completely divorced from any practical utility whatsoever.
00:10:01.240The neo-conservatives never count the cost of their own disastrous adventurism, which has led to the loss of wars.
00:10:07.960The environmentalists never account for how we're going to make these great transitions without the sudden collapse of industrial society.
00:10:14.680Professor Paunio maintains that the reason for this is that they are esoteric occultist fantasists.
00:10:22.200And his remarks about the Club of Rome and about a certain person recruited by Klaus Schwab
00:10:28.700reveal the occult tradition that inspires these people and which explains their complete departure from consensus reality.
00:10:38.000If Professor Paunio would like to tell us about that man, which Klaus Schwab recruited, we'd be very interested to hear about him.
00:10:48.000Yes, he recruited Maurice Strong as his financier.
00:10:54.140And Maurice Strong is the figure in Agenda 2030, or he died in 2015, but nevertheless, I have a chapter in this Postilla article
00:11:13.960that there were the big mistake of Wizard of Baca Grande, but he and his wife, they are occultists, esotericists.
00:11:28.520Wife Hanna believes she's a reborn Indian and more strong.
00:11:35.940They have this nature temple in Baca Grande in Colorado, where he made a really big mistake by inviting one Canadian journalist for one week.
00:11:52.200And he told remarkable things that proves that he was definitely part of this esoteric cult.
00:12:05.280And later on, Schwab made a huge mistake in 2015 when he appeared in Swiss television,
00:12:15.060where he said some remarkable things that people, people's brains, he will hack people's brains with microchips
00:12:27.660and people will be connected to internet and the world elite will be able to influence thinking and beliefs
00:12:49.680Originally, the founder of Club of Rome, Aurelio Pecce, in his book, in one of his book, he really reveals the, the, the, the,
00:13:02.800the belief system of, of Madame Blavatsky and, and where, where he
00:13:11.760expresses the, the, the very, very, very, very basic principles of, of, of esoteric, esoteric, esoteric, thinking and, and, and, and he also made the first plans
00:13:31.280to organize this global governance, governance system, which now appears to be complete.
00:13:40.120To the innocent bystander who looks in and learns about Madame Blavatsky at all, it looks just like Satanism to me.
00:13:51.080Can you give us some background there, Frank?
00:13:52.960Yes. Helena Petrovna Blavatsky attracted quite a lot of attention in her lifetime, which was around the mid to latter two thirds of the 19th century,
00:14:04.120collecting around her the kind of salon that you'd expect from some kind of fantasy, eclair, intellectual, but she wasn't an intellectual.
00:14:11.980As, as Professor Parnier points out, she was a fraud.
00:14:15.980What she was doing was she was promoting a kind of occult route to what she claimed was a supernatural wisdom,
00:14:23.160which, when contacted through effectively Gnostic means, would allow people to access a superior form of intelligence,
00:14:31.080which would thereby, shall we say, privilege them to govern others.
00:14:35.880This is obviously the attraction that promoted the interests of people who are also interested in government in such a system,
00:14:42.940because it appeals to their narcissism and it gives them a justification for anything that they subsequently do.
00:14:47.620Secondly, it allows you to base your worldview on personal fantasies, which is where it interlocks with people like Yuval Novo Harari,
00:14:55.840who apparently is a historian, according to Professor Parnier, and I think he's right.
00:15:00.700Secondly, Blavatsky was the inspiration for much of the 19th century and early 20th century occultism,
00:15:07.100leading to things like the Golden Dawn and Alistocrales the Lema.
00:15:10.720So an obviously hugely intellectual figure in the revival, if you like, of Western occultism,
00:15:19.380or as we prefer to call it, the work of Satan.
00:15:23.040So Blavatsky is, if you like, a founding figure in this.
00:15:27.420One of the currents to which she gave rise was, of course, the anthroposophy, as opposed to her theosophy.
00:15:33.920Madame Blavatsky propounded a system called theosophy, which was, as it were,
00:15:40.200a philosophical, practical system of occultism that allowed you to become like God.
00:15:46.860Steiner then proposed anthroposophy, which was his offshoot of Blavatsky's cult.
00:23:33.560So it's the, it's these kinds of people that we are, we are really, they are, when Pentelinkola died, he was a, he was a hero.
00:23:46.560And there was this biography was released just before his death and it was chosen Finlandia Award in non-fictious books was awarded to, to, to, to the journalist who wrote that book and et cetera.
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00:25:35.480Clearly, the sort of Blavatsky-inspired occult practice was prevalent with the Nazis.
00:25:46.460The famous story of Hitler himself sort of salivating over the spear of Longinus that pierced our Lord's side gives very good indication of that.
00:25:57.400But seeing it brought forward in time to the person that Klaus Schwab associated himself with, the Maury Strong, who, by the way, was in Canada for a long, long time and developed all sorts of things here, worked also with Mikhail Gorbachev.
00:26:16.280So there is involvement in this kind of occult thing.
00:26:21.260And if anybody doesn't know the really occult practices of Maury Strong, there's tons on the Internet you can find.
00:26:27.960Look up his Baca Grande ranch in Colorado and see all of the various religious temples he had there.
00:26:35.100It's kind of like what the Pope is doing now with the Abrahamic faith house.
00:26:39.800But anyway, so that brings this occult practice from, you know, back then used by the Nazis into our world today, associated with the World Economic Forum already.
00:26:56.360But, Professor Paunio, you say more than that, that the current world leaders are also involved in this same kind of occult practice.
00:27:07.220I don't have direct evidence, but it was very revealing that in last World Economic Forum meeting, John Kerry had a very, very strange burst and where he said that we are chosen almost from outer space and we are very unique people who have a mission to save the planet.
00:27:31.700And so what I, what I, what I, what I can say using open source material in this post, long post article is that I can show clearly that these globalists who are, who are steering world affairs from Davos,
00:27:56.700the simple reason why they need this nature, I call it nature pantheism, which has been fostered in the upper echelons of the United Nations for five decades now.
00:28:12.560And so this new structure simply needs a new religion, global religion in order to be able to, to, to, to govern.
00:28:25.260And I have ample of evidence of how all these central figures who are behind this agenda 2030 are occultists.
00:28:39.380Yeah. And really, that's what we'd like to dive into a little bit, because that's really key to understanding because everybody feels they're pushing all this insanity with like a religious fervor.
00:28:54.680None of it makes sense. And yet the agendas are being pushed.
00:28:58.320And I mean, it doesn't make sense economically. It doesn't make sense politically.
00:29:03.840And then when it gets down to the issues we deal with most, you know, the whole life family stuff, none of this makes sense.
00:29:12.360Even, even if you look at feminism, how can feminists not be totally offended that the transgender culture, whatever you want to call it,
00:29:20.700is taking away from women, all the awards in boxing and running and, and all these sports.
00:29:28.960There's no sense to it. And yet it's pushed with a religious fervor that can only be called that religious.
00:29:36.380I can see the appeal of, of a nature pantheism to John Kerry, a man who resembles a haunted tree himself.
00:29:43.140So perhaps that's the only logical connection I could find in that.
00:29:47.840But one thing that I found remarkable about your observations, Professor Powneo, is the fact that you, you insisted that these people are in effect fantasists.
00:29:56.680I found it a tremendous relief when you told me that, flatly, that the technologies that they speak of,
00:30:03.300that they hope to use to enslave the world in service of their own program, simply doesn't exist.
00:30:09.500And when I, when you, when I read you on Noval Harari, on Yuval Harari, and found that he was a, a fantasist, again, that was a terrific relief.
00:30:20.360So the fact that these people are fantasists as well is telling, and it, it ties in with their own belief system.
00:30:27.060It ties in with the idea that they would be in an esoteric nature pantheist group.
00:30:31.260It makes sense of the senselessness of their behavior.
00:30:34.100Oh yes, and there are now first signs in Finland that they understand that the legislation, which I also show in my, in my essay,
00:30:45.200that it has a direct, direct steering and guidance from Davos through United Nations.
00:30:53.100It's, it's, it's, it's crackpot because the, the directive, directive of energy efficiency was just passed by the European Parliament.
00:31:05.860And it will mean that the municipalities would have to double their investments and there would be no money for healthcare anymore.
00:31:15.860And people would have to, would have to repair their houses with, with zillions.
00:31:24.620They, they, they, they, they just, it just, there was a headline two, two days ago in, in newspapers and people are just shocked.
00:31:34.640And I, I, I've, I reviewed this piece of legislation fit for 55.
00:31:40.460It's a huge package and this is only one, one piece of, of, of, of legislation, uh, which also, it was also so that even, even churches were, uh, demanded to be repaired to, to, uh, zero, zero, uh, energy, uh, requirements.
00:32:04.460But it is, uh, but it is so insane legislation and it, it, it has several regulations and directives and, uh, which will just ruin, ruin European Union.
00:32:19.280And I have started to wonder, is this their plan to just cause chaos or is it, is it really that they believe in these insane things?
00:32:33.780I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's remarkably exactly like, like John Henry said that it is the, the, the, the, the, we can feel it here as well.
00:32:43.980I think it's in Canada, you can feel the push, the irrational push, and I'm so happy that I could solve the puzzle that I've been, um, sort of putting together in over 30 years.
00:33:04.740My predictions of, of, of complete chaos in energy, uh, in energy issues in Europe, it did not materialize because we have had an extremely,
00:33:20.080exceptional, exceptionally warm winter, so this has really saved.
00:33:26.440I predicted that tens of thousands of people would have died
00:33:32.900if there had been a normal Eastern European winter.
00:33:40.480I wanted to ask you about what you mentioned about the Fit for 55 climate package
00:33:46.280and this article that you wrote for Real Clear Energy last August
00:33:50.780within which you say that the World Economic Forum had backed a Finnish innovation fund
00:33:58.140called Citra in order to produce a fabricated report that seemed to vindicate
00:34:03.280what's called the Finnish circular economy package.
00:34:07.180I mean, what you're saying is that the World Economic Forum used a front group
00:34:10.640to falsify evidence that its own programmes, its own Fit for 55 climate change programmes
00:34:16.880on a national scale were viable, but which you said, if implemented,
00:34:22.340would reduce to Soviet-style five-year planning
00:34:24.760and the downfall of modern industrial society.
00:34:28.560This does appear to be a framework for intentional collapse.
00:34:33.400Would you concede that this is a framework for intentional collapse?
00:34:36.960I don't know, but the way they fabricated the story of circular economy in Finland
00:34:43.720and they even have this year, or it was last year,
00:34:48.120they had even a follow-up meeting in Africa, I think it was in Rwanda,
00:34:55.360this global circular economy conference.
00:35:00.720But nevertheless, I had reviewed our waste policy for 20 years.
00:35:06.400I had given 100 reviews of EU legislation and I knew what was going on in reality.
00:35:17.160And it was just the circular economy, it collapsed.
00:35:22.840There were attempts to really recycle stuff,
00:35:28.620but it is so energy-consuming, so money-consuming,
00:35:35.260and it was so impossible, so that finally I pushed it hard in Finland,
00:35:44.220but we managed to build a similar waste incineration plant network