PART 2 - Freemasonry, the Black Hand, and ‘War with the Antichrist’ ｜ Joshua Charles ｜ ENCORE
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In Part 2 of the interview on Freemasonry, my guest Joshua Charles lays out the evidence that Freemasonry is not just a secret society, it is a secret order that has been around for a very, very long time. And in order to understand this, we have to go back to Part 1 and watch the interview with Joshua Charles.
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Whenever there's a liturgical abuse, a sacrilege, whatnot against our Lord in the Eucharist,
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people need to understand, it is equivalent to crucifying our Lord again. The beginning of that
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three and a half years, Antichrist will bring the public celebration of the Mass to an end.
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So there's this Eucharistic element to the Antichrist. Now, how is it all connected?
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If you haven't seen it already, you have to go back and watch part one of the interview on
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Freemasonry with my next guest, Joshua Charles, because you're going to get that first deep
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dive into it to help you to understand where this goes. And it was indeed a deep dive. We're right
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now into the very, very thick of it. So if you're just joining us now, go back to lifesitenews.com,
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look up the interview with Joshua Charles and check it out there. Now, this part two,
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we are really in the weeds and it gets super interesting. Okay, listen to this. This is
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going to blow your mind. Joshua Charles lays out the evidence that there is in fact evidence
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that you have a sort of super group of occultists, new agers, all these different kind of nature,
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paganistic, whatever religions we see cropping up everywhere. He believes and points out that
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there's evidence that there's sort of one group, not even a group, one person that's been in charge
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of really all of them for a long, long time. And that one person is like, it's handed down like a
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bishopric almost from one person to the next to the next. And at the end of that cycle will be
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Antichrist. Well, that's fascinating all by itself. And then what are we dealing with? Where are we in
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this timeline toward where we're going toward Antichrist? All that and more on this episode
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of the John Henry Weston Show. Stay tuned. Take a look at this. This is Cardinal Burke talking in 2017
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about demonic forces entering the church at that time in 2017. Hard to believe that's so long ago.
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This was given at Rome Life Forum, a conference that LifeSite has been running since 2014, actually.
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Do you know that we're running another one this year, October 31st and November 1st? That is right
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at the end of this horrific synod on synodality. October 31st, November 1st, 2023. Come join us in
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Rome. Go to romelifeforum.com for more information. Watch Cardinal Burke give this snippet on demonic
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forces entering into the Vatican from his talk at Rome Life Forum in 2017.
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It seems clear from the most respected studies of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima that it has
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to do with the diabolical forces unleashed upon the world in our time and entering into the very life
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of the church. For the recovery of peace will be a gift from heaven. But it is not properly speaking
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the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Her victory is of another order, supernatural and then
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temporal by addition. It will first be the victory of the faith, which will put an end to the time of
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apostasy and the great shortcomings of the church's pastors.
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Did the Freemasons write that the Catholics or the Catholic Church was doing? I mean,
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obviously, when the church preaches against Freemasonry, yeah, that's a thing. But what else
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was it doing? And that's why I was so glad to hear that last bit about how the pagan statutes felt.
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People need to resurrect that understanding that it's, you know, people read stories of saints and
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they are taught in school now. Oh, that's just allegorical. That's nothing. Just like angels.
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That's, you know, it's actually realities. But it's what, you know, people now think of fables and
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whatever else. Nonsense. Real stuff. But what did the Masons say was going on?
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I think it ultimately comes down to the Catholic Church claimed to have divine authority to bind
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the human conscience. I think that's what it ultimately comes down to, which is why,
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you know, many of my closest friends and mentors are still Protestants. So none of this is directed
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at individual Protestants. But I think this is why Protestantism was such a disaster. Because,
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and the earlier, the early so-called reformers, I don't think they conceived of it this way.
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Because like many people who don't listen to the church, they don't realize the
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secondary tertiary effects of what they're doing. But they essentially established the autonomy of the
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human intellect. And so that's what Freemasonry and occultism is all about. You shall be as gods. I
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mean, so when you read, so one book I read was by J.D. Buck, Jedediah something Buck. He was a very
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high-ranking Freemason. He wrote a book called, well, I'm not going to mention the book, because I
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don't think people should be, frankly, too curious about these things. But he participated in the 1893
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Parliament of Religions, which Cardinal Gibbons also went to, who was a good man. He wrote The Faith of
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Our Fathers played a role in my conversion. But Pope Leo XIII later, you know, chided him for that.
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And the Parliament of Religions in 1893 was sort of this first flowering of ecumenicalism, I guess I
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would call it. And there were theosophists there, and Christians, and Buddhists, and Hindus, and sort of
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this whole, again, it all comes back to that, that are you going to be, are we united in one family
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through the first Adam or the second Adam? Well, the Parliament of Religions was saying,
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we're all united in the first Adam. Of course, not explicitly, but implicitly, that's what they
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were saying, that our original sin-damaged nature inherited from Adam is sufficient for our
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brotherhood. And the Church has said no. And the Church claims to say no on the basis of divine
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authority. And so something that J.D. Buck and a number of these Freemasons write, they think that
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this is blatant tyranny. They think that the Church's claim to teach authoritatively what the
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human intellect must believe is tyrannical. And so, I mean, I think the natural, well, unnatural,
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but you know what I mean, the natural progression of this is certainly in the trans movement. And by
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the way, I've had family members who have struggled with that. Thank God they're coming out of it.
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There's really some miraculous things going on with family members who are kind of in with all that,
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and are now beginning catechesis. It's been amazing. So I'm not here to attack any person
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who's genuinely struggling. We need to love and support them. If I saw somebody who was genuinely
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confused about their gender, which I couldn't blame them these days. I have some teacher friends
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who tell me what's happening in schools, and it's mind-boggling. But if I saw somebody bully them,
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I'd be the first to punch the bully in the nose, you know, rhetorically or physically if I needed to.
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So we need to stand with people who are genuinely confused and whatnot. But as far as giving into,
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are we going to call them what they say? No, of course not. But all of that goes back to the
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autonomy of the intellect. No one can instruct me, which of course is the whole reason I became
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Catholic from Protestantism, because I realized that my autonomous intellect, without an authority
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in the world established by God to say, thus saith the Lord, this is the faith, this isn't the
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faith. There is literally no way for me to reach certainty. I wanted to love Jesus. Jesus said,
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if you love me, you will obey my commandments. Well, in Protestantism, I couldn't even get to
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what the commandment was, because I would have good, educated man X, good, educated man Y,
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and even more, and they just could never agree. And who was I to say, well, this one's right?
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It's like, I could never know. And so Protestantism began this whole project by,
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the way I like to phrase it is, denying that there's a living apostolic voice on the earth.
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So Protestantism made us all orphans, frankly. They don't realize it, but that's what they made us.
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And so, well, I mean, those who went along with it, of course, we know as Catholics,
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we're not orphans, right? There is an apostolic authority in the earth.
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But that's essentially Freemasonry's gripe with the Catholic Church, because no Protestant sect
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could say, and many of them don't even say to this day, thus saith the Lord, you must assent to this.
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I mean, they'll say, you know, believe the gospel, okay, that's fine, as good as it is. But then once
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you get right past that outer layer, they're all disagreeing about all sorts of things. They can't
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even agree about baptism. They can't even agree about whether, you know, you can divorce,
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whether you can remarry, whether if you've deliberately choose to sin, you're forfeiting
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your salvation. I mean, there's just all sorts of things they can't even agree about. And they'll
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even admit, none of us can say, we don't have a magisterium to say, we bind and loose, this is
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true, this is false. And that's what masonry hates. It hates this claim, this pretentious,
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tyrannical claim, in their view, that the Catholic Church has always had, always made to bind the human
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intellect to believe certain truths. And they want to destroy that.
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Now that brings me to a very uncomfortable question for you. If in your theory, which I agree
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with, that the Church is the catacomb, and if the catacomb will one day stop or be lessened to an
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extent that Freemasonry to its ultimate goal, which seems to be Antichrist, then as we've seen,
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particularly over, well, there's been an acceleration in the last decade, but it's been going on for
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half a century, the Church letting go of its claims to hold the intellect to have to believe a certain
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thing. That's happening in spades. In fact, you almost see the Church, and I'm not, okay, members of the
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Church who are given laud, honor, and stuff from the hierarchy, embracing the opposite of the truth of the
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Church. And we're in that situation, exactly like the Protestants were, where you're now going, well, who is
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the authority? Because, do I follow this bishop or that one? Because they're diametrically opposed, and they're both
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very smart people. They've both been educated much more than me, and I'm a simple Catholic, and I don't
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even know what to do, and they're teaching truths that are the opposite. They're claiming that they're
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both extensions of what always was. They're both claiming that. We're in that situation right now. We
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have been in that situation for a decade in earnest, and for 50 years to some extent, but it's not getting
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better. It's getting worse. Where are you on that with regard to the whole discussion on the catacomb?
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You just throw me all the softballs, John Henry. I appreciate it. I fully came into the Church in July
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2019 on a day that neither my priest, who was also a Protestant convert, FSSP guy, neither my priest nor I
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realized it until like a week before, but it was July 13th, the Fatima day, and it was a Saturday. I pray a
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daily rosary, wear it with me everywhere, and it's changed my life, so I suspect Our Lady's prayers
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were involved in some way. So I'm very devoted to Our Lady Fatima. I do think the third secret, we never
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got the full thing, but I can say that since I've been Catholic, I have never lost my peace, and I
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ascribe it entirely to God's grace. But I think one of the reasons why is in my study of the patristic
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interpretations of 2 Thessalonians 2, Apocalypse, Daniel, and whatnot, and I'm still doing more,
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but I've done a lot the last three years. I'll point to a prophecy, so to speak, of Saint Pope
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Gregory the Great in The Moralia of Job, an amazing work. It's as long as the
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Confessions and City of God of St. Augustine. It's a little bit longer than both combined, but he has a
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prophecy in there. He has a lot of eschatology that he gets from Job, and Saint Thomas Aquinas said Saint
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Pope Gregory the Great's mystical treatment of Job was the single best that was out there. So Saint
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Thomas Aquinas was like, I might even go to the mystical. I think he did the moral. So Saint Pope
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Gregory the Great said that the church prior to the appearance of Antichrist would be
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severely weakened. I don't have the reference right in front of me, but he said that the
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voice of doctrine would fall silent. He said the penitence would be weaker, that there'd be fewer
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miracles. He said all these sorts of things. There'd be all these sorts. Now, and it's very interesting
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why he said it would be that way. He said it was for basically two reasons. One, and this kind of goes
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into Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2. Paul says that the reason this great delusion is sent, so the people accept
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the Antichrist, the delusion is meant for those who do not love the truth, and that they will kind of
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ultimately fall into condemnation, but that those who are genuine and who will stay with our Lord
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are proven. And Paul elsewhere says that that's the purpose of heresy. As heresy comes into the church,
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it proves those who are genuine. Many fathers talk about this. And so Saint Pope Gregory the Great
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says that the reason this is allowed is so that those who love, who don't love our Lord will be
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shown for who and what they are, and they'll all the more easily fall away. And two, those who do love
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our Lord will merit even more by the fact that they can rely less and less on what they see and more and
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more on what they know. So it's a very interesting and powerful reflection from a saint, a pope, a doctor
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of the church, and a church father. So I think those are about the four biggest check marks you can get in
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the Catholic Church. And so I would highly recommend people look into that. There's actually
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thecatacon.org. There's a site out there, and it actually has a reference to this. So if you want
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to look that up, but thecatacon.com. It's a really big topic. But the other thing I'd say is, but in
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studying Catholic history, you know, we've had, look, I pray for Pope Francis every day. I accept him as
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such. Would I be surprised if things turned out differently in the future? And the church clarified
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that? Not necessarily. I'll just put it that way. That's as far as I want to go on that. But I pray for
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every day. But the fact is, is that we've had about 40 antipopes in history. The fact is, is we had an
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Avignon papacy where the pope wasn't even in Rome for 70 years. The fact is that, you know, we've had
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some of these antipopes who were reigning in Rome, while the genuine pope was in exile in some Italian
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town a few hundred miles away. The fact is, is we had all of Christendom, Western Christendom, being
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divided between three claimants to the papal throne. And there was actually a, I'm forgetting who it was at the
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moment, but this Irish priest theologian, very highly, I think John Henry Newman praised him
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very highly. He made a comment in a book he wrote, I have the reference somewhere, but he basically
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said, you know, when you reflect on the Western schism and all these sorts of things, if you had
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asked Catholic theologians before the Western schism, could this have happened? Most of them would
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have said no. They would have said no, the promises to Peter and whatnot, no, this wouldn't have been
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possible. And so what, what this Irish theologian was taking from this was, was we need to be careful
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to, uh, with too much certainty, presume on what God will allow. Okay. So for me coming from
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Protestantism, I still see in the Catholic church, there there's three big things Protestants, I realized
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reject most Protestants reject, but I was seeing in the earliest fathers, apostolic succession,
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baptismal regeneration, and, uh, oh darn, what was the third one? I forget, but those two are big
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enough. Um, they reject them and you see them in Clement, you see them in Ignatius, you see them
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in Irenaeus, all the, so why are these disciples of the apostles believing things I was told by
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Protestants were medieval? No, no, no. So my point being that, oh yeah, the worship, the sacrifice of
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the Eucharist, that that is Christian worship. Okay. So those three things, apostolic succession,
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baptismal regeneration, sacrifice of the Eucharist. These are still crystal clear. The 10
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commandments being binding. I mean, when I was a Protestant, you'd hear guys like John Piper,
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who's a good guy in many ways, but you know, have a question, are the 10 commandments binding on
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Christians? He's like, no. I mean, Protestants aren't even clear about whether the 10 commandments
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are binding. In the Catholic church, that's never been a question. Of course, the 10 commandments
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are binding. Okay. Uh, so are the structure of the church, the worship of the church, how we become
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Christians, the basics of the moral life, all these things remain, largely speaking, crystal clear and
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settled. And I really don't need the latest commentary from a Pope or a Bishop to know that.
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Now, how all of it will be resolved? I frankly don't know. I frankly don't know. I do think the
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typology of the passion of our Lord, the church does teach in the Catechism that as our Lord went
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through a passion in his individual body. Uh, the church will go through a passion in our Lord's
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mystical body. Um, so again, uh, this is a topic I've studied deeply. We probably can't go into it
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all right now, but, but I do believe the typology of the passion is extremely powerful. Um, one point
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here, uh, and again, maybe this is why I have a lot of peace. Cause I think a lot of these things
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line up and they line up so well that for the parts I can't explain, I just trust our Lord and I want
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to be typologically with St. John and our lady at the cross and just suffer it well. But, um,
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the catacomb, when it stops restraining, we know from the fathers, St. Robert Bellarmine talks about
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this. There's a unanimous consensus among the fathers that in the second three and a half years
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of Antichrist reign, there's a seven year reign first three and a half years seem to be pretty
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good, at least outwardly. The second three and a half years are when it gets awful. Um, but that at
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the beginning of that three and a half years, Antichrist will, uh, bring the public celebration
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of the mass to an end. Okay. So there's this Eucharistic element to the, to, to the Antichrist.
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Now, how is it all connected? Um, I'm going to introduce something just really quick. So
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to kind of expand on St. Augustine's city of God, city of man, uh, the St. Augustine and many
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fathers also talk, there's an overlap. If you have a Venn diagram, there's an overlap between the two.
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And that overlap, that dark side of the church, so to speak, is the Antichurch. They don't use
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that term, but that's a term in use a lot today. It is those who within the church who receive
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baptism, have the mark of baptism on their soul, are nominally Catholics perhaps, but they're
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working against Christ. Now, to be clear, all of us can potentially be part of this Antichurch.
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When we choose to mortally sin, we become, we're not really fully incorporated into the body
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of Christ at that point. We need to come back and return. So, so lest any of us think it's
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always them, you know, like it can be us too. But this Antichurch, I believe is this mystery
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of iniquity. And so the constant pattern throughout history is that the world outside the church
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and the Antichurch within the church, they're part of what many of the fathers referred to,
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and even St. Thomas Aquinas, as the body of the devil. And so this mystery of iniquity
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is the, what's in the church and what's outside the church, and they both team up and war against
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the church. This is the constant pattern in history. There's a whole lot of typology of it,
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even in the Old Testament with Israel. It's fascinating. So when you look at how did our
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Lord's passion begin, I was just reading a sermon from St. John Chrysostom about this.
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In St. John's gospel, John asks our Lord, you know, who is it? Who is the one will, who betray you?
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And Jesus apparently quietly says, because the other apostles don't seem to be aware,
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says the one who I give this morsel to. Well, most of the fathers believe this was the Eucharist.
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And so he gives the Eucharist to Judas. And then scripture has something very disturbing and,
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but very interesting and makes total sense in light of Catholic theology. Right when Judas receives it,
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Satan enters into him. Why? Well, we know from John 6, the very first time that St. John identifies
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Judas as the betrayer is in John 6, when our Lord is having the most explicit explication of the real,
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of his real presence in the Eucharist. And it says that Judas didn't believe. Okay. So
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bringing this all together, I believe, and I think many great saints have talked about this, that the
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sacrifice of the mass keeps a whole lot at bay. Our Lady of Fatima, you know, the first Saturday
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devotion, all the devotion, it's all, is it go to confession and go to mass, right? It holds something
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terrible at bay because it's the sacrifice of the new Adam to the father, right? And so when we get
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to the point where Antichrist will suspend the public celebration of the mass, I personally believe
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hypologically, it lines up very, very well with this Judas figure receiving it and Satan entering into him.
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And frankly, all the liturgical abuses we've seen over the last 60 years, it, whenever there's a liturgical
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abuse, a sacrilege, whatnot against our Lord in the Eucharist, people need to understand, it is equivalent
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to crucifying our Lord again. St. Paul says this. And so that means that with all those abuses, our Lord is
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being crucified in his own house, in his own temple. And so that will be brought to an end by God.
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But when it's brought to an end, it will be for the purpose of drawing those who don't love Christ
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and truth into condemnation, and ultimately refining and proving those who do. And I think in that interim
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period, there will be a whole lot of mystery. And as St. Pope Gregory the Great says, those who
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persevere to the end, a great deal of their merit will be because they will have to rely on what they
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know to be true and not what they're seeing. So I take great comfort in that, frankly, Pope Gregory
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the Great is in the 500s. He was seeing it that clearly. And whether we're in that time now or not,
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I frankly think we are. I could be wrong. I'm not dogmatic about these things. But there's a great
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deal of understanding in the Fathers about this dynamic. And so I'm like, okay, there's a lot
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more in the Catholic tradition and Catholic history to explain this enough to where I can be comfortable
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So you know that here on LifeSite, we love to tell amazing stories. There are a few so heroic and
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amazing as the story we're about to tell you that's coming soon. You got to watch this.
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When I was in seminary, I was reading a book by Henry Nowen. He talked about a nuclear man, you know,
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and people who grew up in the 1980s were kind of formed by that immediate and constant threat of
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nuclear annihilation. My generation has grown up, you know, under the specter of priestly sexual abuse.
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What say to Mr. Foreperson, is the defendant guilty or not guilty?
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I think that for many of us, that has also been all-encompassing. You know, I mean, I entered the
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seminary in January of 2004. And it's basically been there for me from in the beginning.
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One priest's sacrifice for many priestly sins. The story of Father John Halliwell.
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We already experienced a shutdown of the Mass for the first time in world history.
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With COVID and the whole emergency, whatever, whatever, came the stoppage of the Mass. Really
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worldwide. We watched the Mass go dark worldwide. And I was, because I too.
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That was my first Easter. John Henry, that was my first Easter as a cat.
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That's like a bit of a dry run for what we're expecting to come one day.
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Horrific. I mean, do you see that as some relation to where we are today? Because it's
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too weird that that happened for an extended period of time. And that we know this is coming
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again. So the possibility of doing that isn't remote anymore. Because someone might have said,
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if someone told us 10 years ago, we're going to shut the Mass down. No, all the countries in the world,
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no, no, no, we're going to do it of their own accord. Just, we'll do it. Because, you know,
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they will. And, you know, nobody's going to rebel. Priests aren't going to rebel. Nope.
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Generally, by and large, the whole world. Everybody. You'll see. Every bishop. Everybody.
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And someone 10 years ago would have laughed in your face.
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I think it's undeniably a possibility. I mean, how could anybody deny that possibility?
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It does seem that many forces in this world are particularly focused on 2030.
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2030. I find that interesting. I have a theory, if any of this is all true. I think it's potentially
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related to being the 2000th anniversary of either our Lord's crucifixion or the beginning of his public
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ministry, one or the other. So I don't know. Again, I'm constantly torn between
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how much, how much do we, and you're not doing this all. That's one of the reasons I always watch
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you because you just have such a healthy perspective on these things, but you, you, you both don't deny
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what's right in front of us, but we always have to maintain the primacy of, you know, faith, hope,
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and love for, for God and for neighbor. And Monsignor Dillon does that in this book very clearly.
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He says the, the, the key way that Catholics conquer is love and sacrifice, you know? And so
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I think we very much need to keep that in mind. I think it's very possibly a dry run, as you say.
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And, and, and it was very, I remember Eric Salmon's releasing that map that he did, I think in March,
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you probably remember where, you know, as, as the States, as the various dioceses went black,
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so to speak, he would fill it in. And, and within days is the whole country was black. I mean,
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we do know from scripture that the only person who does that firmly and finally is Antichrist.
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And, and frankly, this is where there's more typology. That's very interesting. In the books
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of Maccabees, you know, Daniel prophesies an abomination of desolation. Jesus talks about it in
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his, all of it discourse. You know, it's, again, it's one of those topics that is somewhat mysterious.
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People don't quite know what it is, but in the books of Maccabees, there's a broad agreement that
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at least a pre-fulfillment of that prophecy was in the books of Maccabees and fulfilled in a type
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of the Antichrist, Antiochus Epiphanes, who was the Greek king. And it's very interesting. Antiochus
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Epiphanes, who ruled over Judea at that time, he was one of the successor kingdoms from Alexander the
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Great. You know, the Alexander, the Great Empire, and it divides in the four as Daniel prophesies.
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And so Antiochus Epiphanes, he writes a letter to all of his kingdom. And he basically says,
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I want you all to kind of drop your national identities and become one culture, become one
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society. It's very, he wanted to Hellenize them. He wanted them to all be Greek, right?
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And then of course, it's also very interesting. There is a large contingent of Jews
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among the Jews who wanted to help him do it. Okay. And then we also know that a pre-fulfillment
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of this abomination of desolation was when Antiochus Epiphanes was escorted into the Holy
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of Holies. And the scripture itself is a little unclear on what happened, but something happened,
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either a pagan idol was erected in the Holy of Holies, or, you know, Antiochus being a Gentile
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went in a place he was strictly forbidden to go. So he kind of contaminated the temple in the Jewish
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view at the time. And immediately after that happens, pagan altars, the scripture says, start
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popping up all over Israel. And then what's also interesting is he was escorted into the Holy of
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Holies by somebody who was presumably the high priest, Menelaus. But the scripture makes clear
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he wasn't a valid high priest. Menelaus had stolen it from his brother, Jason, and Jason had stolen it
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from the valid high priest, Onias, through Simony. And the books of Maccabees quite literally say about
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Jason, he was no high priest. And Onias was being kept somewhere. And then right after Antiochus goes into
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the temple, Anias is murdered. So in other words, a false high priest escorted a type of the Antichrist
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into the temple. We're in a time period where I don't think typology like that can be ignored.
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I'm not presuming to say how it should be interpreted, but it's there. It's there. And maybe it means
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nothing, but maybe it means something significant. But again, through studying the patristic foundation,
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through studying what the church has always said, through studying the scriptures, I think private
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revelation and whatnot can be helpful. But I think our foundation has to be the scriptures and the
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fathers. I have found a whole lot in there that provide some data points that I think are,
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they're revealing enough. I'll just put it that way, for me to be willing to suffer through it
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Joshua Charles. Wow. What a fascinating tour. Where can we get the war of the Antichrist with the
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church and Christian civilization? On Tan's website, Amazon. And this really was a labor of love. Like I
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said, it's the first time it's been fully republished in about 140 years. There have been some partial
00:31:28.940
republishings in the past. And then I wrote a pretty extensive introduction, kind of explaining these
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things, citing a ton of quotes from Pope Leo, some quotes from some Masonic sources, kind of laying out
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this fundamental difference between occultism and the faith we were earlier talking about. And then a lot of
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explanatory footnotes throughout the book, you know, there's all sorts of figures that Monsignor Dillon
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mentions that most people today probably aren't familiar with. So, I'll provide a little mini
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biography of them so they have a sense of what it is. But they'll see that this occult agenda is
00:31:57.420
actually very political. It was very, very political. So, you can get it on Tan, Amazon. And then my Twitter
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is just at Joshua T. Charles. And then my website's just joshuatcharles.com.
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Joshua, thank you so very much. God bless you. And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.
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