The John-Henry Westen Show - PART 2 - Freemasonry, the Black Hand, and ‘War with the Antichrist’ ｜ Joshua Charles ｜ ENCORE

00:00:00.000 Whenever there's a liturgical abuse, a sacrilege, whatnot against our Lord in the Eucharist,

00:00:04.180 people need to understand, it is equivalent to crucifying our Lord again. The beginning of that

00:00:10.320 three and a half years, Antichrist will bring the public celebration of the Mass to an end.

00:00:15.380 So there's this Eucharistic element to the Antichrist. Now, how is it all connected?

00:00:19.920 If you haven't seen it already, you have to go back and watch part one of the interview on

00:00:32.180 Freemasonry with my next guest, Joshua Charles, because you're going to get that first deep

00:00:38.780 dive into it to help you to understand where this goes. And it was indeed a deep dive. We're right

00:00:45.900 now into the very, very thick of it. So if you're just joining us now, go back to lifesitenews.com,

00:00:52.840 look up the interview with Joshua Charles and check it out there. Now, this part two,

00:00:58.740 we are really in the weeds and it gets super interesting. Okay, listen to this. This is

00:01:04.460 going to blow your mind. Joshua Charles lays out the evidence that there is in fact evidence

00:01:11.220 that you have a sort of super group of occultists, new agers, all these different kind of nature,

00:01:19.860 paganistic, whatever religions we see cropping up everywhere. He believes and points out that

00:01:26.160 there's evidence that there's sort of one group, not even a group, one person that's been in charge

00:01:33.680 of really all of them for a long, long time. And that one person is like, it's handed down like a

00:01:40.960 bishopric almost from one person to the next to the next. And at the end of that cycle will be

00:01:47.980 Antichrist. Well, that's fascinating all by itself. And then what are we dealing with? Where are we in

00:01:55.420 this timeline toward where we're going toward Antichrist? All that and more on this episode

00:02:03.160 of the John Henry Weston Show. Stay tuned. Take a look at this. This is Cardinal Burke talking in 2017

00:02:10.620 about demonic forces entering the church at that time in 2017. Hard to believe that's so long ago.

00:02:17.140 This was given at Rome Life Forum, a conference that LifeSite has been running since 2014, actually.

00:02:23.240 Do you know that we're running another one this year, October 31st and November 1st? That is right

00:02:29.580 at the end of this horrific synod on synodality. October 31st, November 1st, 2023. Come join us in

00:02:37.460 Rome. Go to romelifeforum.com for more information. Watch Cardinal Burke give this snippet on demonic

00:02:45.580 forces entering into the Vatican from his talk at Rome Life Forum in 2017.

00:02:51.620 It seems clear from the most respected studies of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima that it has

00:02:58.860 to do with the diabolical forces unleashed upon the world in our time and entering into the very life 0.99

00:03:06.340 of the church. For the recovery of peace will be a gift from heaven. But it is not properly speaking

00:03:13.760 the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Her victory is of another order, supernatural and then

00:03:20.840 temporal by addition. It will first be the victory of the faith, which will put an end to the time of 0.97

00:03:30.200 apostasy and the great shortcomings of the church's pastors.

00:03:34.180 Did the Freemasons write that the Catholics or the Catholic Church was doing? I mean,

00:03:42.600 obviously, when the church preaches against Freemasonry, yeah, that's a thing. But what else 0.98

00:03:47.400 was it doing? And that's why I was so glad to hear that last bit about how the pagan statutes felt.

00:03:54.180 People need to resurrect that understanding that it's, you know, people read stories of saints and

00:04:01.200 they are taught in school now. Oh, that's just allegorical. That's nothing. Just like angels.

00:04:06.000 That's, you know, it's actually realities. But it's what, you know, people now think of fables and

00:04:13.180 whatever else. Nonsense. Real stuff. But what did the Masons say was going on?

00:04:17.660 I think it ultimately comes down to the Catholic Church claimed to have divine authority to bind

00:04:27.500 the human conscience. I think that's what it ultimately comes down to, which is why,

00:04:31.880 you know, many of my closest friends and mentors are still Protestants. So none of this is directed 0.97

00:04:36.840 at individual Protestants. But I think this is why Protestantism was such a disaster. Because, 0.98

00:04:43.980 and the earlier, the early so-called reformers, I don't think they conceived of it this way.

00:04:50.460 Because like many people who don't listen to the church, they don't realize the

00:04:53.720 secondary tertiary effects of what they're doing. But they essentially established the autonomy of the

00:05:00.980 human intellect. And so that's what Freemasonry and occultism is all about. You shall be as gods. I

00:05:07.140 mean, so when you read, so one book I read was by J.D. Buck, Jedediah something Buck. He was a very

00:05:16.280 high-ranking Freemason. He wrote a book called, well, I'm not going to mention the book, because I

00:05:20.800 don't think people should be, frankly, too curious about these things. But he participated in the 1893

00:05:25.560 Parliament of Religions, which Cardinal Gibbons also went to, who was a good man. He wrote The Faith of

00:05:32.300 Our Fathers played a role in my conversion. But Pope Leo XIII later, you know, chided him for that.

00:05:37.880 And the Parliament of Religions in 1893 was sort of this first flowering of ecumenicalism, I guess I

00:05:44.620 would call it. And there were theosophists there, and Christians, and Buddhists, and Hindus, and sort of

00:05:52.380 this whole, again, it all comes back to that, that are you going to be, are we united in one family

00:05:57.420 through the first Adam or the second Adam? Well, the Parliament of Religions was saying,

00:06:01.400 we're all united in the first Adam. Of course, not explicitly, but implicitly, that's what they

00:06:05.280 were saying, that our original sin-damaged nature inherited from Adam is sufficient for our 0.94

00:06:13.200 brotherhood. And the Church has said no. And the Church claims to say no on the basis of divine

00:06:19.940 authority. And so something that J.D. Buck and a number of these Freemasons write, they think that

00:06:25.960 this is blatant tyranny. They think that the Church's claim to teach authoritatively what the

00:06:32.340 human intellect must believe is tyrannical. And so, I mean, I think the natural, well, unnatural,

00:06:40.740 but you know what I mean, the natural progression of this is certainly in the trans movement. And by

00:06:45.560 the way, I've had family members who have struggled with that. Thank God they're coming out of it.

00:06:48.920 There's really some miraculous things going on with family members who are kind of in with all that,

00:06:53.100 and are now beginning catechesis. It's been amazing. So I'm not here to attack any person

00:06:59.220 who's genuinely struggling. We need to love and support them. If I saw somebody who was genuinely

00:07:03.540 confused about their gender, which I couldn't blame them these days. I have some teacher friends

00:07:08.100 who tell me what's happening in schools, and it's mind-boggling. But if I saw somebody bully them,

00:07:13.900 I'd be the first to punch the bully in the nose, you know, rhetorically or physically if I needed to.

00:07:17.800 So we need to stand with people who are genuinely confused and whatnot. But as far as giving into,

00:07:22.960 are we going to call them what they say? No, of course not. But all of that goes back to the

00:07:27.160 autonomy of the intellect. No one can instruct me, which of course is the whole reason I became

00:07:32.300 Catholic from Protestantism, because I realized that my autonomous intellect, without an authority

00:07:38.740 in the world established by God to say, thus saith the Lord, this is the faith, this isn't the

00:07:43.860 faith. There is literally no way for me to reach certainty. I wanted to love Jesus. Jesus said,

00:07:49.560 if you love me, you will obey my commandments. Well, in Protestantism, I couldn't even get to

00:07:54.380 what the commandment was, because I would have good, educated man X, good, educated man Y,

00:08:01.220 and even more, and they just could never agree. And who was I to say, well, this one's right?

00:08:08.260 It's like, I could never know. And so Protestantism began this whole project by, 0.73

00:08:13.560 the way I like to phrase it is, denying that there's a living apostolic voice on the earth.

00:08:20.040 So Protestantism made us all orphans, frankly. They don't realize it, but that's what they made us. 1.00

00:08:25.700 And so, well, I mean, those who went along with it, of course, we know as Catholics,

00:08:29.800 we're not orphans, right? There is an apostolic authority in the earth.

00:08:32.000 But that's essentially Freemasonry's gripe with the Catholic Church, because no Protestant sect

00:08:38.980 could say, and many of them don't even say to this day, thus saith the Lord, you must assent to this.

00:08:47.040 I mean, they'll say, you know, believe the gospel, okay, that's fine, as good as it is. But then once

00:08:51.460 you get right past that outer layer, they're all disagreeing about all sorts of things. They can't

00:08:55.460 even agree about baptism. They can't even agree about whether, you know, you can divorce,

00:08:59.680 whether you can remarry, whether if you've deliberately choose to sin, you're forfeiting

00:09:04.340 your salvation. I mean, there's just all sorts of things they can't even agree about. And they'll

00:09:07.740 even admit, none of us can say, we don't have a magisterium to say, we bind and loose, this is

00:09:12.540 true, this is false. And that's what masonry hates. It hates this claim, this pretentious,

00:09:18.520 tyrannical claim, in their view, that the Catholic Church has always had, always made to bind the human

00:09:25.920 intellect to believe certain truths. And they want to destroy that.

00:09:30.340 Now that brings me to a very uncomfortable question for you. If in your theory, which I agree

00:09:34.600 with, that the Church is the catacomb, and if the catacomb will one day stop or be lessened to an

00:09:44.040 extent that Freemasonry to its ultimate goal, which seems to be Antichrist, then as we've seen,

00:09:50.480 particularly over, well, there's been an acceleration in the last decade, but it's been going on for

00:09:57.300 half a century, the Church letting go of its claims to hold the intellect to have to believe a certain

00:10:08.280 thing. That's happening in spades. In fact, you almost see the Church, and I'm not, okay, members of the

00:10:17.300 Church who are given laud, honor, and stuff from the hierarchy, embracing the opposite of the truth of the 0.99

00:10:28.500 Church. And we're in that situation, exactly like the Protestants were, where you're now going, well, who is 0.96

00:10:37.560 the authority? Because, do I follow this bishop or that one? Because they're diametrically opposed, and they're both

00:10:44.380 very smart people. They've both been educated much more than me, and I'm a simple Catholic, and I don't

00:10:48.420 even know what to do, and they're teaching truths that are the opposite. They're claiming that they're

00:10:56.340 both extensions of what always was. They're both claiming that. We're in that situation right now. We

00:11:03.100 have been in that situation for a decade in earnest, and for 50 years to some extent, but it's not getting

00:11:09.780 better. It's getting worse. Where are you on that with regard to the whole discussion on the catacomb?

00:11:16.360 You just throw me all the softballs, John Henry. I appreciate it. I fully came into the Church in July

00:11:21.160 2019 on a day that neither my priest, who was also a Protestant convert, FSSP guy, neither my priest nor I

00:11:28.740 realized it until like a week before, but it was July 13th, the Fatima day, and it was a Saturday. I pray a

00:11:35.160 daily rosary, wear it with me everywhere, and it's changed my life, so I suspect Our Lady's prayers

00:11:41.320 were involved in some way. So I'm very devoted to Our Lady Fatima. I do think the third secret, we never

00:11:48.500 got the full thing, but I can say that since I've been Catholic, I have never lost my peace, and I

00:11:54.500 ascribe it entirely to God's grace. But I think one of the reasons why is in my study of the patristic

00:12:03.220 interpretations of 2 Thessalonians 2, Apocalypse, Daniel, and whatnot, and I'm still doing more,

00:12:12.220 but I've done a lot the last three years. I'll point to a prophecy, so to speak, of Saint Pope

00:12:17.640 Gregory the Great in The Moralia of Job, an amazing work. It's as long as the

00:12:22.720 Confessions and City of God of St. Augustine. It's a little bit longer than both combined, but he has a

00:12:29.400 prophecy in there. He has a lot of eschatology that he gets from Job, and Saint Thomas Aquinas said Saint

00:12:33.500 Pope Gregory the Great's mystical treatment of Job was the single best that was out there. So Saint

00:12:38.600 Thomas Aquinas was like, I might even go to the mystical. I think he did the moral. So Saint Pope

00:12:43.540 Gregory the Great said that the church prior to the appearance of Antichrist would be

00:12:47.400 severely weakened. I don't have the reference right in front of me, but he said that the

00:12:51.880 voice of doctrine would fall silent. He said the penitence would be weaker, that there'd be fewer

00:13:00.100 miracles. He said all these sorts of things. There'd be all these sorts. Now, and it's very interesting

00:13:06.240 why he said it would be that way. He said it was for basically two reasons. One, and this kind of goes

00:13:14.500 into Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2. Paul says that the reason this great delusion is sent, so the people accept

00:13:20.140 the Antichrist, the delusion is meant for those who do not love the truth, and that they will kind of

00:13:27.360 ultimately fall into condemnation, but that those who are genuine and who will stay with our Lord

00:13:34.020 are proven. And Paul elsewhere says that that's the purpose of heresy. As heresy comes into the church,

00:13:39.100 it proves those who are genuine. Many fathers talk about this. And so Saint Pope Gregory the Great

00:13:45.380 says that the reason this is allowed is so that those who love, who don't love our Lord will be

00:13:52.160 shown for who and what they are, and they'll all the more easily fall away. And two, those who do love

00:13:58.380 our Lord will merit even more by the fact that they can rely less and less on what they see and more and

00:14:07.300 more on what they know. So it's a very interesting and powerful reflection from a saint, a pope, a doctor

00:14:14.620 of the church, and a church father. So I think those are about the four biggest check marks you can get in

00:14:19.320 the Catholic Church. And so I would highly recommend people look into that. There's actually

00:14:24.780 thecatacon.org. There's a site out there, and it actually has a reference to this. So if you want

00:14:31.420 to look that up, but thecatacon.com. It's a really big topic. But the other thing I'd say is, but in

00:14:36.860 studying Catholic history, you know, we've had, look, I pray for Pope Francis every day. I accept him as

00:14:44.660 such. Would I be surprised if things turned out differently in the future? And the church clarified

00:14:51.960 that? Not necessarily. I'll just put it that way. That's as far as I want to go on that. But I pray for

00:14:58.060 every day. But the fact is, is that we've had about 40 antipopes in history. The fact is, is we had an

00:15:03.660 Avignon papacy where the pope wasn't even in Rome for 70 years. The fact is that, you know, we've had

00:15:09.820 some of these antipopes who were reigning in Rome, while the genuine pope was in exile in some Italian

00:15:14.320 town a few hundred miles away. The fact is, is we had all of Christendom, Western Christendom, being

00:15:21.640 divided between three claimants to the papal throne. And there was actually a, I'm forgetting who it was at the

00:15:27.680 moment, but this Irish priest theologian, very highly, I think John Henry Newman praised him

00:15:33.620 very highly. He made a comment in a book he wrote, I have the reference somewhere, but he basically

00:15:38.680 said, you know, when you reflect on the Western schism and all these sorts of things, if you had

00:15:42.440 asked Catholic theologians before the Western schism, could this have happened? Most of them would 0.99

00:15:48.200 have said no. They would have said no, the promises to Peter and whatnot, no, this wouldn't have been

00:15:53.180 possible. And so what, what this Irish theologian was taking from this was, was we need to be careful

00:16:00.360 to, uh, with too much certainty, presume on what God will allow. Okay. So for me coming from

00:16:09.680 Protestantism, I still see in the Catholic church, there there's three big things Protestants, I realized

00:16:16.180 reject most Protestants reject, but I was seeing in the earliest fathers, apostolic succession, 0.92

00:16:21.140 baptismal regeneration, and, uh, oh darn, what was the third one? I forget, but those two are big

00:16:27.600 enough. Um, they reject them and you see them in Clement, you see them in Ignatius, you see them

00:16:32.220 in Irenaeus, all the, so why are these disciples of the apostles believing things I was told by

00:16:36.740 Protestants were medieval? No, no, no. So my point being that, oh yeah, the worship, the sacrifice of

00:16:42.540 the Eucharist, that that is Christian worship. Okay. So those three things, apostolic succession,

00:16:46.000 baptismal regeneration, sacrifice of the Eucharist. These are still crystal clear. The 10

00:16:50.980 commandments being binding. I mean, when I was a Protestant, you'd hear guys like John Piper,

00:16:55.120 who's a good guy in many ways, but you know, have a question, are the 10 commandments binding on

00:16:59.260 Christians? He's like, no. I mean, Protestants aren't even clear about whether the 10 commandments

00:17:03.540 are binding. In the Catholic church, that's never been a question. Of course, the 10 commandments

00:17:07.160 are binding. Okay. Uh, so are the structure of the church, the worship of the church, how we become

00:17:13.500 Christians, the basics of the moral life, all these things remain, largely speaking, crystal clear and

00:17:21.080 settled. And I really don't need the latest commentary from a Pope or a Bishop to know that.

00:17:28.540 Now, how all of it will be resolved? I frankly don't know. I frankly don't know. I do think the

00:17:34.780 typology of the passion of our Lord, the church does teach in the Catechism that as our Lord went

00:17:39.920 through a passion in his individual body. Uh, the church will go through a passion in our Lord's

00:17:45.560 mystical body. Um, so again, uh, this is a topic I've studied deeply. We probably can't go into it

00:17:51.200 all right now, but, but I do believe the typology of the passion is extremely powerful. Um, one point

00:17:57.700 here, uh, and again, maybe this is why I have a lot of peace. Cause I think a lot of these things

00:18:01.300 line up and they line up so well that for the parts I can't explain, I just trust our Lord and I want

00:18:07.980 to be typologically with St. John and our lady at the cross and just suffer it well. But, um,

00:18:13.980 the catacomb, when it stops restraining, we know from the fathers, St. Robert Bellarmine talks about

00:18:18.920 this. There's a unanimous consensus among the fathers that in the second three and a half years

00:18:23.780 of Antichrist reign, there's a seven year reign first three and a half years seem to be pretty

00:18:27.760 good, at least outwardly. The second three and a half years are when it gets awful. Um, but that at

00:18:32.980 the beginning of that three and a half years, Antichrist will, uh, bring the public celebration

00:18:37.740 of the mass to an end. Okay. So there's this Eucharistic element to the, to, to the Antichrist.

00:18:45.120 Now, how is it all connected? Um, I'm going to introduce something just really quick. So

00:18:50.300 to kind of expand on St. Augustine's city of God, city of man, uh, the St. Augustine and many

00:18:56.960 fathers also talk, there's an overlap. If you have a Venn diagram, there's an overlap between the two.

00:19:01.340 And that overlap, that dark side of the church, so to speak, is the Antichurch. They don't use

00:19:06.200 that term, but that's a term in use a lot today. It is those who within the church who receive

00:19:10.840 baptism, have the mark of baptism on their soul, are nominally Catholics perhaps, but they're

00:19:16.560 working against Christ. Now, to be clear, all of us can potentially be part of this Antichurch.

00:19:20.940 When we choose to mortally sin, we become, we're not really fully incorporated into the body

00:19:25.820 of Christ at that point. We need to come back and return. So, so lest any of us think it's

00:19:30.500 always them, you know, like it can be us too. But this Antichurch, I believe is this mystery

00:19:35.660 of iniquity. And so the constant pattern throughout history is that the world outside the church

00:19:40.880 and the Antichurch within the church, they're part of what many of the fathers referred to,

00:19:46.100 and even St. Thomas Aquinas, as the body of the devil. And so this mystery of iniquity

00:19:50.880 is the, what's in the church and what's outside the church, and they both team up and war against

00:19:56.640 the church. This is the constant pattern in history. There's a whole lot of typology of it,

00:20:01.280 even in the Old Testament with Israel. It's fascinating. So when you look at how did our

00:20:06.640 Lord's passion begin, I was just reading a sermon from St. John Chrysostom about this.

00:20:11.580 In St. John's gospel, John asks our Lord, you know, who is it? Who is the one will, who betray you?

00:20:18.000 And Jesus apparently quietly says, because the other apostles don't seem to be aware,

00:20:21.680 says the one who I give this morsel to. Well, most of the fathers believe this was the Eucharist.

00:20:27.600 And so he gives the Eucharist to Judas. And then scripture has something very disturbing and,

00:20:32.720 but very interesting and makes total sense in light of Catholic theology. Right when Judas receives it,

00:20:39.800 Satan enters into him. Why? Well, we know from John 6, the very first time that St. John identifies

00:20:46.120 Judas as the betrayer is in John 6, when our Lord is having the most explicit explication of the real,

00:20:54.580 of his real presence in the Eucharist. And it says that Judas didn't believe. Okay. So

00:20:59.280 bringing this all together, I believe, and I think many great saints have talked about this, that the

00:21:06.720 sacrifice of the mass keeps a whole lot at bay. Our Lady of Fatima, you know, the first Saturday

00:21:12.920 devotion, all the devotion, it's all, is it go to confession and go to mass, right? It holds something

00:21:18.140 terrible at bay because it's the sacrifice of the new Adam to the father, right? And so when we get

00:21:25.180 to the point where Antichrist will suspend the public celebration of the mass, I personally believe

00:21:31.500 hypologically, it lines up very, very well with this Judas figure receiving it and Satan entering into him.

00:21:37.440 And frankly, all the liturgical abuses we've seen over the last 60 years, it, whenever there's a liturgical

00:21:45.100 abuse, a sacrilege, whatnot against our Lord in the Eucharist, people need to understand, it is equivalent

00:21:50.280 to crucifying our Lord again. St. Paul says this. And so that means that with all those abuses, our Lord is

00:22:00.080 being crucified in his own house, in his own temple. And so that will be brought to an end by God.

00:22:10.240 But when it's brought to an end, it will be for the purpose of drawing those who don't love Christ 0.99

00:22:15.280 and truth into condemnation, and ultimately refining and proving those who do. And I think in that interim

00:22:21.620 period, there will be a whole lot of mystery. And as St. Pope Gregory the Great says, those who

00:22:26.800 persevere to the end, a great deal of their merit will be because they will have to rely on what they

00:22:32.260 know to be true and not what they're seeing. So I take great comfort in that, frankly, Pope Gregory

00:22:38.040 the Great is in the 500s. He was seeing it that clearly. And whether we're in that time now or not,

00:22:43.720 I frankly think we are. I could be wrong. I'm not dogmatic about these things. But there's a great

00:22:52.960 deal of understanding in the Fathers about this dynamic. And so I'm like, okay, there's a lot

00:22:59.080 more in the Catholic tradition and Catholic history to explain this enough to where I can be comfortable

00:23:05.120 suffering without knowing.

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00:23:25.760 When I was in seminary, I was reading a book by Henry Nowen. He talked about a nuclear man, you know,

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00:23:38.520 nuclear annihilation. My generation has grown up, you know, under the specter of priestly sexual abuse.

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00:23:52.020 I think that for many of us, that has also been all-encompassing. You know, I mean, I entered the

00:23:58.680 seminary in January of 2004. And it's basically been there for me from in the beginning.

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00:24:21.380 We already experienced a shutdown of the Mass for the first time in world history.

00:24:25.680 With COVID and the whole emergency, whatever, whatever, came the stoppage of the Mass. Really

00:24:31.460 worldwide. We watched the Mass go dark worldwide. And I was, because I too.

00:24:39.040 That was my first Easter. John Henry, that was my first Easter as a cat.

00:24:44.040 Yeah, it was very surreal.

00:24:46.100 That's like a bit of a dry run for what we're expecting to come one day.

00:24:52.320 Horrific. I mean, do you see that as some relation to where we are today? Because it's

00:24:59.780 too weird that that happened for an extended period of time. And that we know this is coming

00:25:07.060 again. So the possibility of doing that isn't remote anymore. Because someone might have said,

00:25:10.960 if someone told us 10 years ago, we're going to shut the Mass down. No, all the countries in the world,

00:25:15.340 no, no, no, we're going to do it of their own accord. Just, we'll do it. Because, you know,

00:25:19.680 they will. And, you know, nobody's going to rebel. Priests aren't going to rebel. Nope.

00:25:23.780 Generally, by and large, the whole world. Everybody. You'll see. Every bishop. Everybody.

00:25:28.020 And someone 10 years ago would have laughed in your face.

00:25:30.900 I think it's undeniably a possibility. I mean, how could anybody deny that possibility?

00:25:36.060 It does seem that many forces in this world are particularly focused on 2030.

00:25:41.520 2030. I find that interesting. I have a theory, if any of this is all true. I think it's potentially

00:25:48.840 related to being the 2000th anniversary of either our Lord's crucifixion or the beginning of his public

00:25:56.740 ministry, one or the other. So I don't know. Again, I'm constantly torn between

00:26:03.960 how much, how much do we, and you're not doing this all. That's one of the reasons I always watch

00:26:11.760 you because you just have such a healthy perspective on these things, but you, you, you both don't deny

00:26:16.120 what's right in front of us, but we always have to maintain the primacy of, you know, faith, hope,

00:26:20.980 and love for, for God and for neighbor. And Monsignor Dillon does that in this book very clearly.

00:26:27.000 He says the, the, the key way that Catholics conquer is love and sacrifice, you know? And so

00:26:34.220 I think we very much need to keep that in mind. I think it's very possibly a dry run, as you say.

00:26:40.200 And, and, and it was very, I remember Eric Salmon's releasing that map that he did, I think in March,

00:26:47.860 you probably remember where, you know, as, as the States, as the various dioceses went black,

00:26:53.380 so to speak, he would fill it in. And, and within days is the whole country was black. I mean, 0.97

00:26:58.120 we do know from scripture that the only person who does that firmly and finally is Antichrist.

00:27:05.680 And, and frankly, this is where there's more typology. That's very interesting. In the books

00:27:11.780 of Maccabees, you know, Daniel prophesies an abomination of desolation. Jesus talks about it in

00:27:20.580 his, all of it discourse. You know, it's, again, it's one of those topics that is somewhat mysterious.

00:27:26.600 People don't quite know what it is, but in the books of Maccabees, there's a broad agreement that

00:27:31.240 at least a pre-fulfillment of that prophecy was in the books of Maccabees and fulfilled in a type

00:27:36.420 of the Antichrist, Antiochus Epiphanes, who was the Greek king. And it's very interesting. Antiochus

00:27:41.400 Epiphanes, who ruled over Judea at that time, he was one of the successor kingdoms from Alexander the

00:27:46.240 Great. You know, the Alexander, the Great Empire, and it divides in the four as Daniel prophesies.

00:27:51.680 And so Antiochus Epiphanes, he writes a letter to all of his kingdom. And he basically says,

00:27:57.140 I want you all to kind of drop your national identities and become one culture, become one

00:28:02.880 society. It's very, he wanted to Hellenize them. He wanted them to all be Greek, right? 0.97

00:28:08.500 And then of course, it's also very interesting. There is a large contingent of Jews

00:28:12.540 among the Jews who wanted to help him do it. Okay. And then we also know that a pre-fulfillment 0.56

00:28:20.420 of this abomination of desolation was when Antiochus Epiphanes was escorted into the Holy

00:28:26.900 of Holies. And the scripture itself is a little unclear on what happened, but something happened,

00:28:31.640 either a pagan idol was erected in the Holy of Holies, or, you know, Antiochus being a Gentile 0.75

00:28:38.160 went in a place he was strictly forbidden to go. So he kind of contaminated the temple in the Jewish 1.00

00:28:43.360 view at the time. And immediately after that happens, pagan altars, the scripture says, start

00:28:49.060 popping up all over Israel. And then what's also interesting is he was escorted into the Holy of

00:28:57.320 Holies by somebody who was presumably the high priest, Menelaus. But the scripture makes clear

00:29:04.340 he wasn't a valid high priest. Menelaus had stolen it from his brother, Jason, and Jason had stolen it

00:29:13.160 from the valid high priest, Onias, through Simony. And the books of Maccabees quite literally say about

00:29:20.660 Jason, he was no high priest. And Onias was being kept somewhere. And then right after Antiochus goes into

00:29:30.020 the temple, Anias is murdered. So in other words, a false high priest escorted a type of the Antichrist 0.95

00:29:38.160 into the temple. We're in a time period where I don't think typology like that can be ignored.

00:29:44.960 I'm not presuming to say how it should be interpreted, but it's there. It's there. And maybe it means

00:29:52.920 nothing, but maybe it means something significant. But again, through studying the patristic foundation,

00:29:58.040 through studying what the church has always said, through studying the scriptures, I think private

00:30:03.160 revelation and whatnot can be helpful. But I think our foundation has to be the scriptures and the

00:30:07.540 fathers. I have found a whole lot in there that provide some data points that I think are,

00:30:14.480 they're revealing enough. I'll just put it that way, for me to be willing to suffer through it

00:30:19.580 with a sense of hopeful resignation.

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00:31:08.340 Joshua Charles. Wow. What a fascinating tour. Where can we get the war of the Antichrist with the 0.90

00:31:15.420 church and Christian civilization? On Tan's website, Amazon. And this really was a labor of love. Like I

00:31:24.100 said, it's the first time it's been fully republished in about 140 years. There have been some partial

00:31:28.940 republishings in the past. And then I wrote a pretty extensive introduction, kind of explaining these

00:31:33.540 things, citing a ton of quotes from Pope Leo, some quotes from some Masonic sources, kind of laying out

00:31:39.320 this fundamental difference between occultism and the faith we were earlier talking about. And then a lot of

00:31:44.300 explanatory footnotes throughout the book, you know, there's all sorts of figures that Monsignor Dillon

00:31:48.360 mentions that most people today probably aren't familiar with. So, I'll provide a little mini

00:31:52.320 biography of them so they have a sense of what it is. But they'll see that this occult agenda is

00:31:57.420 actually very political. It was very, very political. So, you can get it on Tan, Amazon. And then my Twitter

00:32:03.640 is just at Joshua T. Charles. And then my website's just joshuatcharles.com.

00:32:08.940 Joshua, thank you so very much. God bless you. And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - July 18, 2023

PART 2 - Freemasonry, the Black Hand, and ‘War with the Antichrist’ ｜ Joshua Charles ｜ ENCORE

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