The John-Henry Westen Show - Political Prisoners FREED by Donald Trump： Exclusive Interview

00:00:00.000 We're really deeply grateful for all that LifeSite News did to support us and really to be a voice

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00:00:09.920 He saved our lives, saved our health.

00:00:19.740 Hello, my friends, and welcome to the John Hunter Weston Show. I am so privileged today

00:00:23.820 to bring to you three of the now-freed pro-life prisoners of conscience who went into prison

00:00:30.820 to basically for giving witness to life, to trying to save unborn little American babies,

00:00:37.640 and they were sent to an American jail. A horror in the country going on with a million American

00:00:44.140 children killed every year. And so these individuals and many others decided they can't sit by and let

00:00:52.100 it happen. They had to go and rescue them. And Will Goodman, Gene Marshall, and Paulette Harlow,

00:00:59.000 stunning individuals whom I'm so pleased to introduce you to right now. Stay tuned.

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00:01:35.040 you for your support, and may God bless you. Hello, my dear friends, and welcome to the outside

00:01:41.020 world once again. Thank you so much, John Henry. It's a great honor to be able to join you on your

00:01:45.540 program. We appreciate your invitation. Well, let's begin as we always do with the sign of the

00:01:49.200 cross. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

00:01:55.540 Now, it's so great, because I feel like I know you all better than I do. I know you will, but

00:02:00.720 the others of you, while we've not met, we've prayed for you every day at LifeSite, and we've

00:02:07.360 reported on you so much. We feel like, I feel like kin to you. But not only that, you guys are heroes

00:02:13.740 to me and to so many people. And I know that sounds weird to hear for you, but it's beautiful

00:02:20.480 for us. You did what we want to do in our hearts, and you got to experience something.

00:02:28.640 And it was hard. It wasn't easy. But you got to experience something that we hope, when confronted

00:02:37.520 with, we'll be able to say yes to. So anyway, welcome. I'm overjoyed to have you on the show.

00:02:44.760 Thank you, John Henry. And just if I might, on behalf of everyone, say that we're really grateful

00:02:50.920 for LifeSite News. All of the prayers, all of the letters and support, we receive letters from people

00:02:58.920 throughout the world. They had said that they had tuned into LifeSite, they'd heard about our story,

00:03:03.360 they're praying for all of us. And when you're alone in a federal prison, and you don't have

00:03:08.080 pro-life Catholics around you, and you get a letter from the Netherlands, or from Spain, or Ireland,

00:03:12.940 or Mexico, Canada, saying, we're with you, we're praying for you, it just means so much. And so we're

00:03:19.320 really deeply grateful for all that LifeSite News did to support us, and really to be a voice for the

00:03:24.220 children, because this isn't about us. I don't want to correct you. It's not polite to correct the

00:03:29.080 most, but we're not heroes. We're ordinary people who are just trying to help the little

00:03:34.040 ones who have no help, and to assist their mothers and fathers. So thanks for all that you've done.

00:03:39.680 Will, I will start with you, because when all this was starting, and you knew you were headed for

00:03:46.440 prison, and the others were as well, you wrote a beautiful letter in which you hoped and prayed

00:03:54.000 that this would not be like capital punishment, because your confreres, those with you in arms to

00:04:03.720 fend for the unborn who were also being incarcerated with long sentences, might face their last days

00:04:11.680 in prison. And that, thanks be to God, did not happen. But nonetheless, you're sitting there now

00:04:20.360 with Jean Marshall, and with Paulette Harlow, and Paulette's husband, John, as well. LifeSite was

00:04:27.680 there to take in a lot of that at the time. I remember it was Doug, I think, who interviewed

00:04:33.920 you, Paulette, and John. Maybe we'll start with you, Jean, because you experienced some hardships.

00:04:40.720 And I know we've covered it at LifeSite, but I think a lot of people viewing this will not have

00:04:44.580 seen it yet. People have to understand the gravity of what just happened. It's not, it wasn't, oh,

00:04:54.000 they just got arrested and went to jail. What did they expect? And they had to stay in there,

00:04:57.840 and it was nice and fine. And no, it wasn't. Jean, if you wouldn't mind explaining some of what went on,

00:05:07.540 just in brief, but it was brutal. I'm sorry to say that, but it really was brutal.

00:05:12.220 I was traumatized when I was first brought into custody, and the shackles went on my ankles

00:05:18.780 and my hands right outside the courtroom. And nobody told me that you should wear socks or pants

00:05:27.780 so that it won't hurt your legs. But it felt like razors cutting my skin, my ankles. And it scared me.

00:05:36.520 Then when I was brought into custody at Alexandria, Virginia, at the jail there,

00:05:45.060 they brought me right into a room from the garage and took my hip stabilizing belt off and threw it

00:05:54.620 into the van. Now, let's explain. You need that hip stabilizing belt because you were supposed to have

00:06:01.060 surgery, hip surgery. Yes.

00:06:03.460 You weren't allowed to have that in the first place because of all this.

00:06:07.100 Correct. My lawyer asked the judge if I could be sentenced after the surgery because it was

00:06:13.700 already scheduled in October. And she said no. And then I asked her again at the sentencing

00:06:21.400 on May 15th. And again, she said no. I said, well, I don't want to have the surgery in prison.

00:06:28.580 I don't think that's a good idea. I just really did not do a lot of walking initially. I didn't do

00:06:36.200 that because I was afraid that I could make it worse. So she said no. And I just didn't understand

00:06:47.660 that. I couldn't understand why. Also, the first three weeks of my incarceration at Alexandria,

00:06:53.700 I was suffering. I didn't know at the time, but I know it was in a lot of pain and I had pneumonia.

00:07:00.640 Yeah. And you weren't provided adequate clothing and coats and whatnot.

00:07:04.460 I had to ask for an x-ray. I said, please just do an x-ray. They did a total of about

00:07:08.860 three. And I said, no, I understand that there's some infiltrates here because I asked for a report.

00:07:16.720 I said, I would like a report of it. And when I saw the report saying there were infiltrates,

00:07:22.000 I knew that I had pneumonia. And I said, I'm entitled to be treated. I'm entitled to a diagnosis.

00:07:28.680 I'm entitled to be treated. And we might say that both Jean and Paulette are nurses,

00:07:35.220 retired nurses with a lot of experience. So they put me on blood pressure medication when

00:07:40.420 I first came in because my pressure was up to 200, which has never been that high.

00:07:46.120 And, and so they put me on blood pressure medication, which about a month into it caused

00:07:51.380 the drug reaction. And, and when they saw that, they took me off of it and put me on prednisone,

00:07:59.240 which was great because it took care of the pneumonia too. And that's good. Within a week,

00:08:06.040 I was in a night nurse was very, very, very kind to me because she knew I was a nurse. I said,

00:08:12.320 you know, I'm not a med seeker. You know, we go to work and we're half dead. And she was shaking

00:08:17.060 her head. Yes, that's right. So I felt like I had an ally and I would use the night guard. And so

00:08:22.460 you please tell her I need something. I need pain medicine or something, but I'm entitled to a

00:08:27.720 diagnosis. So she told the doctor that this is no spring chicken and we better nip this in the bud. 0.95

00:08:33.440 And I was rocking back and forth with, because I was in pain all night, but finally it was resolved

00:08:41.380 with the medication and the prednisone. Paulette, how did you fare in what you had to undergo?

00:08:50.580 The judge ruled that I, that she could not find a facility that could accommodate all of my

00:08:57.780 complicated needs. And, um, that I was told to go home and try to take care of as many things as

00:09:05.200 possible. I was not able to really walk because of, uh, my, uh, my back condition. I did end up having

00:09:14.400 two back surgeries. Um, but I was just sent home and she said, try to take care of your, um, you have

00:09:22.540 to take care of your, um, your illnesses so that I could go to a prison. But at the time she said

00:09:27.720 there was just no place that she could find that a birth comedy. They had accused you, I believe of

00:09:32.940 being violent, uh, when this started. Um, and, uh, that when I first read that report, it always made

00:09:40.620 me laugh. I thought, Oh, really? Uh, you were in your older years and, and, uh, don't look like a person

00:09:47.000 who could be violent, but nonetheless, that was what was charged of you. Was it not? Yes. Um,

00:09:51.660 as a matter of fact, my sister, Jean had to come looking for me because I was in the stairwell. I

00:09:57.540 couldn't make it up the stairs. I was on the second level and she was concerned. So then she sat with

00:10:04.500 me while I made it up to the third level and then finally the fourth level. John, I wanted to get your

00:10:08.860 take, what is it like to see your wife undergo these things and be treated and, and regarded as

00:10:17.040 such? Because, um, on the inside of the courtroom also, and, and from what you got from the reaction

00:10:22.420 of, of some of the crowd anyway, and, and some of the media was pretty vicious. Um, how did that,

00:10:28.760 how'd that go for you? I knew the seriousness of her condition. She's got multiple things going on 0.98

00:10:34.800 and, um, you know, it's a struggle just to sort of, in a sense, stay alive within your own house.

00:10:42.140 And, um, to me, uh, incarceration would have been a death sentence. And I, I pleaded with the judge.

00:10:49.580 I mean, I know it couldn't happen, but I told her I would go in her place if I could, I would go with

00:10:54.380 her, whether it went, if I could, it's just, uh, something that I knew was not going to work out

00:11:00.380 if she went to prison. And so, uh, my pleads felt on empty years. And, uh, fortunately we were able

00:11:08.440 to keep her at home. So, Will, we contacted you before you knew, uh, about, uh, you're, you were

00:11:14.520 coming out. Uh, you didn't, you hadn't heard yet other than to hear that the, the, they said so,

00:11:19.960 but there was nothing going on. So what happened?

00:11:21.940 The letter that I had written in my fear about my friends receiving potentially capital punishment,

00:11:27.940 uh, Jean and Paulette and the others were praying, sitting down in chairs, praying the rosary and

00:11:36.120 singing. I was in the hall with some of the others handing out pamphlets. And that's where we were

00:11:42.280 the day we were unjustly arrested. And then two years later, we're all getting raided by FBI storm

00:11:48.880 troopers in full body armor with weapons drawn. And then of course, the federal prosecutors under Biden,

00:11:54.680 uh, in the DOJ were saying that you all run the risk of up to 12 years of federal prison

00:12:01.480 for praying and sitting in a row, praying the rosary and sitting in a chair or handing out

00:12:06.120 pamphlets in a hallway. And, uh, the guys in the prison couldn't even believe it, but, but knowing

00:12:11.320 my friends, their age and their health, uh, that's why I was terrified, frankly, that this might be not

00:12:19.020 only just an unjust prison sentence, but even one or two years behind bars could, could be a death

00:12:25.420 sentence. And, uh, John's being a little bit modest, but one thing that happened in the courtroom is he

00:12:31.340 told the judge that he would go to prison in place of his wife and that he would be willing to go, uh,

00:12:38.440 with her to care for her. And I couldn't let John speak to that, but I mean, these, this wasn't

00:12:45.680 just bluster or an attempt to use, um, bombastic terms or excitable terms. This was reality.

00:12:53.760 The department of justice spent well over a hundred thousand dollars to do a seven state raid

00:12:59.620 to pick up grandparents who are peaceful, prayerful people who are there to save lives and to stop

00:13:06.000 violence. And then all of the money they spent on the countless us prosecutors, the department of

00:13:11.080 justice, civil rights prosecutors, the federal judge, there was like 13 to 15 terabytes of evidence

00:13:17.900 that the FBI collected. And the irony is that on the day of the rescue, my friends here were the

00:13:24.020 ones that were attacked. I saw them getting pushed and shoved and brutally with like a mop handle in

00:13:31.760 the metal part of it. All that still is suffering an injury from Chuck and Joan thought she got tased.

00:13:37.740 Um, I was watching Jean bracing herself in a doorway as one of the abortion center workers was using 1.00

00:13:44.100 all of her force to try to shove Jean out. And it really was almost an object lesson in a sense that

00:13:50.320 this is the kind of violence and force that they use for our little brothers and sisters, forcing

00:13:55.740 them out of the womb. And then the FBI comes after all of us. So after the show trial, the raids,

00:14:02.780 the show trial, and the immediate imprisonment, uh, after 17 months, I was in correspondence with

00:14:10.640 Patrick Delaney. And I was under the impression that maybe the president, uh, had overlooked us,

00:14:16.560 uh, because my January 6th friends were all released and we were all considered, you know, uh, political

00:14:22.060 hostages. But then I also wondered maybe president Trump might be timing things. And Patrick had said,

00:14:28.000 maybe it'll time for the anniversary of Roe versus Wade or the March for Life. And I was writing a

00:14:33.160 letter at the time. I was in Bravo unit at the Danbury federal prison in Connecticut. And there's

00:14:38.400 a three tiered, um, prison block. And I heard one of the guys, Niddy, um, Niddy, who had been a friend

00:14:44.780 and who helped me with my concussion and injuries to find a cell at the time of my accident. But, uh,

00:14:50.240 Niddy was up on the third floor and started yelling, Goodman. And I wasn't sure if my name

00:14:55.280 being called is prison's a loud place and there's a lot of shouting, but he started yelling, Goodman,

00:15:02.280 the president's pardoning you. So I tried to hobble up the three floors, uh, at the three, uh, the three

00:15:09.540 floors and the steps with my concussion and my sore neck. And sure enough, saw president Trump that he

00:15:15.540 had signed the documents and that, uh, we'd be going home. And, uh, later when the officials from

00:15:21.780 the prison came forward and asked my name and asked, uh, if I was who I said I was, they said,

00:15:26.880 the president of the United States has pardoned you, get your things together. And all the guys

00:15:30.540 in the cell block started cheering. So I'll forget that. So God bless the men in Bravo unit. Uh,

00:15:37.780 so many men start breaking down and many of those who, uh, the January six guys who were innocent

00:15:42.660 prisoners of conscience too, very pro-life, strong men of faith and, uh, who were great support.

00:15:48.460 It's important to know that this was a witch hunt way after the fact. Um, and that's how you all ended

00:15:55.160 up in this, in this situation, a rescue done two years ago. But let me, let me ask you this. Well,

00:16:00.720 tell us a little bit about your incarceration. What happened? It was, it was pretty brutal also

00:16:05.560 because of an accident. And tell us about that.

00:16:07.800 Yeah. We first spent close to a year in the federal holding in Alexandria and there we were

00:16:14.180 locked down in our units for most of the time, uh, not being able to get out of there. A lot of the

00:16:19.580 guys were very upset, aggravated. There were fights that were breaking out. We were very grateful, uh,

00:16:26.260 that we had opportunities to attend mass, uh, on many occasions while we were there. But at the same

00:16:32.000 time, we could have no visitors. Uh, it was, uh, we had, uh, there were prayer vigils outside of the

00:16:37.220 prison or the jail rather in Alexandria and we could see them. But, uh, the people who worked

00:16:42.460 in the kitchen said that the food was often stamped and it said not fit for human consumption.

00:16:48.180 And, uh, I had a terrible infected tooth and, um, they, they said they couldn't give me anything

00:16:55.780 for it or do anything, just pull it out. And I needed antibiotics. And it wasn't until about two

00:17:01.400 months later that I finally got antibiotics and then was transferred and shipped to Danbury. I was

00:17:07.200 in the men's low security and Jean was in the women's federal camp. Uh, and the conditions there 0.81

00:17:12.720 were deplorable, um, in the Bravo unit, it had been a condemned cell block on the ceiling. Lead paint was

00:17:19.240 chipping up and falling. This prison was built in the late 1930s and there was asbestos in certain

00:17:25.320 spots coming, uh, coming out. And, uh, one of the most egregious things was we went for about 15 days

00:17:31.900 without being given toilet paper. Uh, there were men, male inmates who were defecating in the showers.

00:17:39.180 I mean, this is how bad it got. And, uh, meanwhile, ordering commissary men who were suffering from gender

00:17:46.380 dysphoria, men who were wearing prison dresses. Some even had had operations to physically alter their

00:17:54.000 bodies, mutilate their bodies. They could order in and get mascara. They could get lipstick, perfume,

00:18:00.500 all of these things were available. And yet we didn't have toilet paper. And some of the gentlemen

00:18:05.960 who, uh, were suffering from cancer and needed chemotherapy, I would sit with them at lunch and

00:18:11.720 the different meals in the chow hall. And they would say, well, we're waiting for chemotherapy. We

00:18:16.000 can't even get cancer treatment, but we had gender dysphoria. We could probably get the federal

00:18:20.240 government to pay for our, uh, our sex mutilation operations, our gender mutilation. So this is the

00:18:26.440 situation we have. And, uh, so on the fateful day of November 15th, uh, I had said my prayers and I

00:18:33.980 was up on my top bunk, which was about five, five and a half feet up in the air and had, uh, falling

00:18:39.120 asleep. I was, uh, at this rosary and, uh, I just rolled right out of the bed. I haven't rolled out of

00:18:46.220 a bed since maybe I was four or five years old, but the guards looked at the film to be sure there

00:18:51.980 wasn't any foul play. And they said, as I rolled, my head went first. And it's like, when my hips

00:18:57.080 hit the frame of the bed, it threw my feet up in the air. So I was just perpendicular with the ground,

00:19:02.760 all 170 pounds, uh, down right on my head, suffered various gall fractures, uh, broken nose,

00:19:10.280 um, wrenched my neck and lower back. By God's grace, I, I, I thank him. It was a blessing. I was

00:19:17.220 knocked unconscious immediately, uh, but I was bleeding profusely. And while I was on the ground,

00:19:22.940 this was all before the sun rose. So this is, this was in a different block, the Foxtrot block,

00:19:28.280 which was an open dorm of about 80 gentlemen. And right next to me was Zeke, the farmer. He was a

00:19:34.760 January 6th guy who was arrested by the FBI in a raid just because he was praying on the grounds of

00:19:41.260 the Capitol. Didn't do anything else, but be on the grounds. And I'm grateful that this farmer was

00:19:46.420 an early riser and, um, Zeke's a great man. He's a, he's a family man, a husband, a Christian man,

00:19:52.220 a father, but he heard my head slam into the floor and he knew immediately, he told me, I knew

00:19:57.440 something wasn't right. He jumped out of bed. My bunkie who's on the lower bunk, his name is big Nick

00:20:03.540 and big Nick, um, who's, his pro-life, uh, he got up and he saw me on the ground. And these two

00:20:10.240 gentlemen, Zeke stayed with me, big Nick ran to get help. And by the time the guards came around

00:20:16.580 and realized it was serious. And when they turned the lights on, they, they told me it looked like

00:20:20.380 a homicide, uh, site because there was so much blood had it not been for those two gentlemen,

00:20:25.620 I probably wouldn't be here for this interview. So I really thank the Lord for these two men to help

00:20:30.820 me. And for everyone who was praying, eventually the guards got me to an ambulance. They took me

00:20:35.520 to a nearby hospital. I don't remember much of it. This rosary had been around my neck after I

00:20:40.680 finished praying my decades, I had put it around my neck and, uh, I could say I was holding on the

00:20:45.660 rosary, but it was holding me and you can see it was cut. Uh, this had been blessed by a priest,

00:20:50.720 but it had been cut because my head had swollen up so much. They couldn't get it off me. So the nurse,

00:20:56.820 God bless her. She tucked it into a pocket and said, I think you're going to need this.

00:21:01.520 Um, and it's true. I, I need the rosary, but everybody praying the rosary, everyone interceding

00:21:07.020 after 11 hours probably should have stayed overnight because of severe concussion, but 11 hours of being

00:21:12.640 shackled to a prison bed, running various tests and getting CT scans and MRIs. They took me back and

00:21:19.060 the guards just sort of threw me into one of the cells to fend for myself. And I could hardly,

00:21:23.960 I couldn't even tell what was going on. And I think I had some morphine. I didn't feel pain,

00:21:29.060 but, uh, that, uh, my, my, one of the cellies, Niddy and another guy named Wood,

00:21:34.100 they really showed compassion. They made sure that they, I found a cell. Um, you know,

00:21:39.740 the guys took care of me for two weeks. I was for the most part bedridden and the guards never

00:21:45.260 checked on me. No medic, no medical care, other inmates and some of the J six guys and people 0.99

00:21:50.520 our Bible study were bringing food to me so I could eat. Uh, when I went into prison,

00:21:54.920 uh, I was, uh, unfortunately a little overweight, but I had lost close to 40 pounds. Um, and,

00:22:01.600 and, uh, especially during the time, the first couple of weeks of the severe concussion.

00:22:06.160 So, and in the 10 weeks I was there, I was able to see one specialist who said that I didn't need

00:22:11.160 surgery. Thanks. Thanks be to God. But I requested a doctor to go through all of my medical records.

00:22:17.420 And for the 10 weeks I was in after my, um, concussion, never once was I able to see a

00:22:22.600 doctor. So it was just terrible neglect. And my case is one of many. Um, so, uh, along with pardoning

00:22:29.800 with, uh, Paulette and Jean, we, we thank president Trump for his pardon because he saved our lives.

00:22:35.760 He saved my life. He saved Paulette's life, saved our health.

00:22:38.460 A lot of people are going to ask, and I know I can ask you. Uh, so that was not purposely caused.

00:22:46.860 You fell out of bed. Uh, that was allowed by our Lord. Why? A lot of people are going to ask,

00:22:54.120 why would he allow such a thing? Well, I have to tell you, John Henry, that for the first three or

00:22:59.120 four weeks I was having terrible nightmares. It's the, uh, seemed as always having PTSD. I would wake

00:23:05.980 up holding onto the frame of the bed and now is on a lower bunk, having these nightmares of falling off

00:23:11.400 and trying as much as I could to pray, but these terrible migraine headaches. And at one point I

00:23:16.920 could say, you know, Lord Jesus, all I can do now is just offer up my body in the prayer of,

00:23:21.800 of pain and trying to recover because prayer was so difficult. I couldn't even pray a decade of the

00:23:26.500 rosary and, you know, asking why Lord, why is this happening? And, uh, in fact, our friend Patrick

00:23:33.060 Delaney sent me an email and he, what he had done is put out a prayer request for me and shared

00:23:38.400 the story of my accident. And so many people were praying, but he shared the words of a mutual friend,

00:23:44.460 Jill, who lives in Wisconsin. And Jill was reflecting and she said to me in the email,

00:23:50.160 you know, Will, you were sleeping very peacefully there in your bed, very comfortably. And then all

00:23:56.440 of a sudden you were torn from your bed, suffered this catastrophic head injury. And she said, this

00:24:03.220 reminds me very much of a child who's resting peacefully and gently in his or her mother's womb

00:24:09.520 being torn violently from this place. And, uh, it just struck me when I was reading Jill's words

00:24:16.460 because where we rescued in DC was a late term abortion facility killing full term babies. We

00:24:22.820 believe we have reasons to believe there may have been partial birth abortion happening there for

00:24:28.460 your viewers. They can go to justice for the five.com and actually view the images of the bodies of the

00:24:34.860 victims that were recovered from Cesar St. Angelo's place. And Jean and Paul helped mothers who, um,

00:24:41.900 who were visibly pregnant in the third trimester on the day that we rescued. So, um, you know,

00:24:48.540 in God's mysterious plan and in his, his permitting will, I trust him. I don't fully understand,

00:24:54.100 but in the course of this happening, it really has allowed other people to think about what is

00:25:01.280 terrible violence is happening to these babies being born in the womb and late,

00:25:06.620 late stage pregnancy abortions, and even post birth abortions that saves their Angeles. They're 0.68

00:25:12.900 inducing labor and killing babies. We believe in there's evidence to show he may be killing babies

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00:25:50.920 Christ is King. A lot of saints have said that the true work that happens, even in monasteries,

00:25:58.320 happens in the infirmary where the people are sick and dying. So, uh, it's, it's no surprise to me

00:26:04.600 that our, our Lord asks the most of those he loves the most. And, uh, a lot of has been asked of you guys.

00:26:12.440 And, uh, that's, uh, that's why I'm, I'm very happy to talk to you as America's seemingly undergoing

00:26:19.820 quite a revolution. Um, uh, restoration actually is a better word for it. Um, your thoughts on,

00:26:27.740 on what's going on in America right now. We really believe that most Americans do not understand what

00:26:33.040 an abortion is. And, um, do, if you show them a picture of, uh, um, an embryo or fetus, they sort of,

00:26:42.180 uh, you know, recoil from that, but that's, that's how we all started out. And, uh, they,

00:26:48.420 they deserve to be able to stay alive, safe within their mother's womb. And the reason that we go to 0.98

00:26:55.900 the clinics is so that we can talk to the mothers and hopefully rescue these babies that are just 1.00

00:27:02.380 unjustly being led to slaughter, that we can help save their lives and then try and save the mother's

00:27:07.780 lives. And I think it's very, very telling that when I was a graduate nurse in the early seventies,

00:27:15.680 I could not open a bank account on my own. It wasn't until 1979 as a single woman that I was

00:27:23.080 allowed to open a bank account. Now that's 1979. Wasn't that far, long ago. And look what we've

00:27:29.820 come up by. We've come not that good for, as far as for women, women's, uh, right to have a pregnancy

00:27:37.460 and have help and be supported. And in essence, what we do is we say, Oh, you're, you're pregnant.

00:27:45.000 Planned Parenthood lies and says, it's just a blob of tissue. Well, it's not just a blob of tissue

00:27:50.360 because it has a beating. It has a beating heart at 21 days. He or she has a beating heart at 21

00:27:57.700 days. That's not a blob of tissue. So that's the line number one, uh, line number two. Well,

00:28:03.760 you can also, you can have children later and, um, that'll make up for that. Well, people know that

00:28:09.920 if you've ever had a miscarriage or lost a child, one child does not make up for another child. The

00:28:15.980 child is, is sacred and loved and, and so important. And, uh, the same with these children

00:28:22.180 that are aborted, uh, aborted, the mother will carry within her brain cells of this child. 0.78

00:28:29.260 So this, this, this connection that she'll have forever with this child, she'll always be a mother,

00:28:35.060 but she won't have a child. And, uh, we just think that we can do a lot better in, in the United

00:28:42.320 States. I mean, we can help provide, um, housing. We can provide help with, uh, work, making sure

00:28:48.440 they can stay at work, aftercare, furniture, whatever it is that they need. I mean, we've

00:28:54.560 taken up a collection on the sidewalk and had $350 for one lady. And, and, uh, our friend 0.55

00:29:00.960 went over and asked the approval that helped chip in because the mother had made a choice. She had chosen

00:29:06.520 life and they, they were not interested in that choice at all. So, uh, they would not, they refused

00:29:12.720 to, um, to contribute to the mother that was in need, but that's what we need to do. We need to

00:29:18.000 take care of women that feel like they're in crisis crisis. They're also going through a tremendous,

00:29:23.600 um, hormonal change. And within this hormonal change, there's a period of ambiguity. Well, that's

00:29:30.720 when the abortionists come in and target them and take advantage of them when they're in this state. 0.99

00:29:36.160 Instead of supporting them. Can I ask, Paulette, you and Jean are sisters.

00:29:40.940 Yes. What happened in your family to make you both so hardcore? Like it's unbelievable. Very few

00:29:47.520 people, you can, you can choose a whole whack of society and one out of 10 billion people are going

00:29:53.480 to choose to do what you did, but you have two in the same family. What, what happened?

00:29:58.320 My mother was, my mother was a nurse. My father was a very proud Navy veteran. And, um, we have

00:30:05.820 a lot of nurses in our family and I'll, I'll just explain to you my dad quickly. He, he's

00:30:12.680 in his, um, mid nineties, uh, crippled, barely able to stand. There was a, the parade was going

00:30:19.500 by for St. Patrick's day. It went in front of his door and he pushed his, his way up out

00:30:25.300 of his wheelchair so that he could salute the flag when it went by. And, uh, there were people walking

00:30:32.120 around that could have done the same, but he was just, he's very, very patriotic. He went down to

00:30:38.320 Panama when we were losing the Panama Canal. He actually made a trip down there. He was always

00:30:43.940 writing letters. He was always very, very involved in anything that was happening in

00:30:49.220 the community. He was very supportive. He was just a very, very proud American. He was,

00:30:54.800 he just thought it was just wonderful to be American. And I'll tell you, John Henry, one

00:30:59.640 of the hottest thing for me in this whole ordeal is when I saw the, um, the docket comes through

00:31:05.080 and it said USA versus Paulette Harlow. That, that broke my, that just broke my heart. USA,

00:31:13.540 that the United States of America against Paulette Harlow, that was one of the hottest things to take.

00:31:20.200 One thing I might add, if you don't mind me interrupting Paulette is when the FBI raids were

00:31:25.800 happening, I was in New York doing some pro-life work and staying with a friend. His name is, uh,

00:31:31.440 Henry, and he is, uh, 96 years old and he is, um, a veteran of World War II. And when I explained

00:31:38.800 that the FBI were trying to get me for a peaceful rescue, or Harry is his name. And Harry said,

00:31:44.100 the FBI is coming after you for protecting children and women. It's like, we went to fight in a second

00:31:50.960 world war to protect women and children. He's like, this is not my country. We fought to defend life.

00:31:56.680 And so, um, you know, there's, uh, it's really incredible how things flipped and, you know,

00:32:03.220 going into prison, we had, uh, an environment, uh, and an administration that was throwing

00:32:09.200 peaceful pro-life patriots into prison, giving millions and millions to organizations that slaughter

00:32:15.960 children. They were going after Catholics, especially Catholics who love the beauty of the Latin mass.

00:32:21.240 And it was just like a chaotic world getting thrown into prison. And then coming out, um,

00:32:28.080 here we have a president pardoning rescuers. Um, we have people even in the pro-life movement and

00:32:34.380 sadly in the church who don't like rescuers and a, and a, and a president who said it's an honor to 0.81

00:32:38.820 sign the pardon, who looked at what the DOJ was doing, said, this is ridiculous. These people 0.95

00:32:43.480 shouldn't be prosecuted. I understand, you know, there's maybe some efforts to defund the abortion

00:32:48.400 industry, you know, special protections for people of faith. So it's really been a, a, a remarkable

00:32:53.740 change coming out. It's like a whole new world. Now, of course, we have a lot more to do and

00:32:58.180 prayers and efforts and reparation to make as our lady of Fatima said, has says, but, um, it's,

00:33:04.400 it's refreshing to see the changes that have been made. And we're very grateful. I turn it over to

00:33:09.420 Jean, if you had comments to make on this.

00:33:11.620 Paulette knows that I've always been very, very active in the pro-life movement. Politically,

00:33:16.480 everybody knows I'm out there getting signatures for referendums for pro-life candidates. And I,

00:33:22.980 I said, at some point, at some point I have to stop this because I have to just go to the

00:33:29.160 abortuaries and love these women, try to help them because every time, uh, a new administration 0.94

00:33:36.940 comes in, they reverse the policy and make it a pro-death, uh, policy. Um, thankfully, uh,

00:33:43.840 President Trump has, you know, reversed that policy again with the Hyde Amendment and, and, uh, the

00:33:49.840 Mexico City policy. But those are policies. But I said, you know, how can we, how can we continue to

00:33:57.140 stand or wait, you know, for these laws to be passed only to have them reversed? I said, meanwhile,

00:34:05.120 these babies are, these children, these sacred little human beings, you know, are, um, are being

00:34:13.220 killed. And I believe the longer we wait, you know, to make a law that will protect all human beings

00:34:22.420 from conception on, that we will continue to dehumanize them. So it's in our culture now that we,

00:34:31.140 many people don't even see them as human beings, you know, but they are sacred little human beings.

00:34:38.240 And, um, what I said to the judge, it, you know, at the, um, the sentencing, because I didn't testify

00:34:45.340 very much, but I said, you know, our, our rights end where another's life begins. And that's a

00:34:52.460 conception is very easy. We even teach our children, Johnny, do not hit your sister. You can raise your

00:34:59.340 hand and play, but you can, I think it's just, we teach at a very basic level. Okay. So, um, it's a

00:35:06.120 very easy message to, to understand. And what is so difficult, why do we have to catch women against 0.99

00:35:13.600 their unborn babies? And again, if we take the gospel literally, when Jesus said, whatever you did

00:35:20.200 for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me, because in fact, he was the pre-born Christ.

00:35:26.340 Yes. And, um, and I said, so he also says in the, in the gospel, whatever you did not do

00:35:33.940 for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did not do for me. So it's not left up to just people

00:35:41.140 that, oh, they're a bunch of zealots. No, I think it's really up to everybody to show up at the clinic.

00:35:48.740 Sometimes it's just a matter of showing up. So many people have come, mothers have come and said to us,

00:35:54.660 thank goodness you were here when I came to the abortuary, when I, when I came a year ago, you know,

00:36:01.520 because now I have a beautiful child, you know, and I can't tell you how many times that's happened.

00:36:06.340 We don't see the miracle. We don't see the, the, the results necessarily, but we trust, we know that God

00:36:13.800 God is doing it. God is doing it. And I can honestly tell you when, when you know that God

00:36:23.660 has used you in a very, very special way to save a life, the joy that you'll experience is like

00:36:31.280 the joy you have when you give birth to your own child. That's the kind of joy it is. And

00:36:37.800 I can honestly say that, um, I am so grateful. And when it happens, I am so grateful to go out and

00:36:46.460 praise him that he could use me. And that's, that's all I'm saying that we, more people have to go out

00:36:52.260 to these killing places. You don't have to, they don't have to talk. They just show up, pray,

00:36:58.100 you know, pray the rosary and, um, and do adoration fast, fast and pray because this evil

00:37:06.440 is the worst evil imaginable that we're killing innocent children. So Jesus also said, you know,

00:37:14.240 some evil can only be fought by prayer and fasting. So we're trying to do that too, but

00:37:20.880 abortion is a blood offering to Satan. And this ball is really against the devil and God.

00:37:28.100 And, um, everyone says it's their right. But, um, this baby that's growing inside of them is a

00:37:35.040 separate being. There's two people there. It's not just one person. And that second person has the

00:37:41.220 right to life just as a mother has the right to life. So we have a lot of teaching to do.

00:37:48.100 Paulette, um, John and Will, we've all been sidewalk counseling. I've been sidewalk counseling for

00:37:54.260 10 years in Boston. And does it make, it's not even logical that I would say unkind things

00:38:02.920 to a female patient, a pregnant woman coming in to, you know, to have this abortion. It is not logical 1.00

00:38:12.680 that I I've, I've entreated them to, to, to yell at them or to be unkind or certainly to assault them.

00:38:21.860 How can they, how can we possibly save their child if they can't trust us? This is what the opposition,

00:38:28.360 this is what the opposition wants the world to think. The news is to think that we are violent

00:38:33.980 people, you know, when the other ones that are killing the children, I know it's not logical,

00:38:38.720 right? And there were even, even members of the abortion industry who came and testified,

00:38:45.580 they were the ones who attacked us. And they said under oath that we were the ones who attacked

00:38:53.100 them. And I went so far in my sentencing to say that Jean shoved a pregnant woman down on the ground. 1.00

00:39:00.900 And, um, I explained in my testimony at the sentencing, I said, this woman came out of the

00:39:07.640 elevator and I could tell right away, she did not look healthy. And I was trying to counsel her with

00:39:12.200 the pregnancy help information. I also had information to hand to her husband about how

00:39:18.160 this abortionist had killed a woman in the very, uh, facility where he was about to take his wife.

00:39:24.500 And it also gave a listing of all of the malpractice suits against him because of, uh,

00:39:30.740 women who have been seriously harmed. The woman who perished there that he killed,

00:39:34.760 they said in the autopsy, they found fetal remains in her lung that his, that it was just,

00:39:41.980 it's a house of horrors. What happened at Cesar St. Angelo's place. And I'm looking at this woman, 0.99

00:39:47.400 and I'm looking at, she just does not look well. And, and she was up against the wall and starting 1.00

00:39:52.140 to slide. Now she was beginning to go into labor right outside of the center, just the door outside. 0.98

00:39:58.280 And I asked her, are you okay? And she shook her head. No, immediately went into the waiting room

00:40:02.940 where, where Jean and Paulette were praying. And with knowing they're both nurses, I said,

00:40:07.220 we have some trouble in the hallway. There's a woman in distress. Jean immediately ran out there, 0.66

00:40:12.200 started talking with her very patiently, started, you know, calming her down. She tried to stand up,

00:40:17.180 you know, just hold on right there. We're getting help. She asked me, she said, we need to call 911

00:40:22.080 and get an ambulance. So I went in to the waiting room and none of the rescuers had a cell phone.

00:40:28.620 So I said to the, to the receptionist at the abortion mill, I said, there's a woman in distress

00:40:33.720 in the hallway. We're having problems. Please call 911. We need an ambulance. And very coldly,

00:40:38.040 she looked at me and she said, there are no problems. The only problem is you. But Jean was

00:40:42.300 showing love for that mother, love for that baby. And that's what we do. The pro-life movement loves

00:40:47.640 them both. And, um, the shocking part of it is, uh, you know, the abortion industry says we're the

00:40:54.020 ones who are violent, but we know from sacred scripture that it says of Satan that he was a 0.66

00:40:58.920 murderer and a liar from the beginning. And, uh, there are just terrible lies. So even right now, 0.96

00:41:05.220 they're trying to say that president Trump pardoned violent pro-life rescuers. Actually,

00:41:10.780 what they're saying is he pardoned anti-abortionists, right? And, uh, nothing could be further from the

00:41:16.600 truth. And I tried to explain to the judge what I witnessed elderly women and an older man getting

00:41:22.180 attacked by the abortion staff. Um, Jean as a nurse rushing with compassion to help this woman in

00:41:27.560 labor, I said to the judge, there's no obstetrics department at this abortion center. There are two 0.99

00:41:33.220 patients who are in need. Jean was serving both patients, but the abortionist would kill one of the 1.00

00:41:38.520 patients, probably maim and possibly kill the other one. So it's such an honor for me to have rescued and

00:41:45.420 to stand with these, uh, courageous rescuers, Joan Bell being a great leader. Um, and Lauren

00:41:51.900 Handy, uh, uh, John, John Hinshaw, Heather Idoni, Jay Smith, um, Garrity. I mean, these are people

00:42:00.700 who are committed to nonviolent direct action, putting their faith in action. That's what I've

00:42:05.800 witnessed. So for our viewers who are hearing the pro-abortion industry spokespeople saying,

00:42:10.740 oh, we're a violent group. Don't believe the lies. The idea that the women are going into this 1.00

00:42:15.900 health care center where you wouldn't go into a health care center where one of the parties

00:42:21.260 come so dead, you know, they get to use the word health care, women's health care. 1.00

00:42:28.520 Then parenthood lied recently too. And they said, well, we perform, uh, we also perform, um,

00:42:35.200 mammograms. So I don't know any parenthood facility that provides mammograms. And then they said,

00:42:41.820 well, we, we, uh, provide referrals to mammograms. Breast cancer is the third type of cancer that

00:42:48.540 kills the country. Breast cancer. And caused by abortion. Yes. Yes. Caused by abortion. And that 1.00

00:42:55.900 they won't, they won't deal with that. So I don't think they really care as, you know, as much

00:43:02.500 women as they do. John Henry, real quick, is it possible this, uh, beautiful baby Philomena Grace, 0.99

00:43:09.820 yeah, she, um, she was a victim of Cesar St. Angelo with the late term abortions. They put the 1.00

00:43:16.340 laminaria and she was, um, in her mother's womb living peacefully and Cesar St. Angelo put in the

00:43:26.220 laminaria, which dilates the cervix. And before the mother could return, the woman delivered the baby 0.93

00:43:32.740 and the mother put it in the, um, put little Philomena in the toilet at a Chili's, wasn't it? Or a 0.92

00:43:38.380 Ruby Tuesdays.

00:43:39.260 Ruby Tuesdays.

00:43:40.260 Ruby Tuesdays.

00:43:40.780 It was delivered in the toilet.

00:43:42.060 Delivered in the toilet. And, uh, an activist from D.C., Missy Smith, um, had the opportunity to, 1.00

00:43:49.400 to, um, work with the courts to obtain the remains of beautiful Philomena Grace and, uh, to have a

00:43:57.600 Holy Mass offered for Philomena, baby Philomena, and then buried in concentrated ground. And, um,

00:44:03.180 it's really an incredible story because the, a pro-lifer who was brutalized in an assault, uh,

00:44:09.600 went to baby Philomena's grave and through the intercession returned to the doctor and the doctor

00:44:15.320 was utterly amazed. A miraculous healing through the intercession of an aborted baby.

00:44:20.300 And people can go to philaminagrace.org, philaminagrace.org and get the stories of, um,

00:44:30.460 wasn't there also a mother who was infertile? 1.00

00:44:33.340 Yes, there was a mother who was having difficulty getting pregnant. And so she went to 0.97

00:44:37.940 Philomena Grace's, um, grave site and she conceived in a year, less than a year later,

00:44:45.000 she named her newborn baby, Philomena Grace. Imagine if two people from every parish in our

00:44:54.080 archdiocese, in Boston, in Boston, imagine if two people, she should go out two by two, but two people 0.59

00:45:01.020 went out to the abortion clinic and clinics. We have two of them in Boston, um, went out to the mills.

00:45:10.080 Can you imagine somebody driving in for an appointment, seeing these couple of hundred

00:45:15.620 people? I don't know how many parishes we have, but we have a lot. And we're just asking you to go

00:45:20.740 out to the clinics and pray. You don't have to get arrested. If God calls you to get arrested,

00:45:27.060 then that's what you do. Um, Chet Gallagher was a police officer in, um, I think it was in Nevada

00:45:32.920 and they were having a rescue and he was so moved. He put down his shield and his gun and he sat down

00:45:38.940 with the, um, the rescuers. And he was one of the people that was just recently pardoned. He was

00:45:45.260 pardoned. Chet was pardoned. This is not hard. And, and we should, as Catholics, especially, we should be

00:45:51.520 leading this, uh, charge that we go to the clinics, that we show this, yeah, that we're really engaged in

00:45:57.980 the spiritual battle. And I hope that since president Trump has been, um, elected that we

00:46:04.640 don't feel like we can just sit back on our laurels. I hope we realize that this is the time for us to

00:46:10.080 really live out in, in person, the book of revelation, that that's our call, but, and that's

00:46:17.500 a call for everybody, every Christian, the time for action. I mean, it's apocalyptic, the millions 0.99

00:46:23.700 and millions, global Holocaust, even maybe billions. And that our lady of Fatima said that

00:46:29.580 Russia would spread for errors and that there have been more children slaughtered in the so-called 0.98

00:46:36.800 sexual revolution, demonic revolution, more than any other revolution. In fact, all of the other

00:46:42.160 communist revolutions, other wars, more victims than, uh, than any of the others. And, and, and we're

00:46:48.940 called to pray and fast. So when we rescue, we pray and we intervene responding to God's call.

00:46:54.600 But when they throw us in prison unjustly, we're able to fast from our friendship, fast from our

00:46:59.720 freedom, from seeing what we're doing. So prayer and fasting or at Labora, that becomes, call it the

00:47:05.880 monastery of hard knocks. This is the place where we go to pray and, uh, Bible studies, rosary groups,

00:47:11.820 but to really pray because how do we make, how do we begin to make reparation? Where do we even start?

00:47:17.920 When 65 million babies have been slaughtered in America and probably a billion babies have been

00:47:24.380 slaughtered throughout the world since the 1960s with abortifacients, where do we begin with

00:47:29.640 reparation? So, uh, like Paulette just said, I mean, this is apocalyptic, the, the apocalypse of St.

00:47:36.360 John. I mean, that, this is a destruction unlike anything in all of human history. And so we must pray

00:47:42.340 and fast. We must, uh, we got a beautiful statue of Our Lady of Fatima right here with some red roses

00:47:47.440 and, uh, we, we need Our Lady. We need her to crush the head of this, of the serpent because this is 0.99

00:47:53.100 satanic, this child sacrifice. And have, um, have people, if they believe abortion is really killing 0.99

00:48:01.680 a child, an unborn child, a baby, if they really believe that and they know that, then they should 0.95

00:48:08.740 act like it. Indeed. And that's why it's been such a pleasure for me to bring you to them. Uh, my

00:48:15.480 friends, thank you so very much, uh, for coming on. And, uh, I pray that, uh, your fight, that our

00:48:22.700 fight might indeed one day be successful in the United States of America and in Canada, where I live

00:48:27.640 and around the world. Thank you so much for joining us. God bless you. Thank you.

00:48:32.780 Thank you. I'm going to share their prayers. Yes. Yes. Viva Cristo Rey. And God bless all of you.

00:48:38.560 And we'll see you next time.

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