Political Prisoners FREED by Donald Trump： Exclusive Interview
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Pro-Life Prisoners of Conscience Jean Marshall, Gene Marshall, and Paulette Harlow join me on The John Hunter Weston Show to talk about their heroic efforts to save the lives of unborn babies in America's prisons.
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We're really deeply grateful for all that LifeSite News did to support us and really to be a voice
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for the children. We thank President Trump for his pardon because he saved our lives.
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Hello, my friends, and welcome to the John Hunter Weston Show. I am so privileged today
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to bring to you three of the now-freed pro-life prisoners of conscience who went into prison
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to basically for giving witness to life, to trying to save unborn little American babies,
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and they were sent to an American jail. A horror in the country going on with a million American
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children killed every year. And so these individuals and many others decided they can't sit by and let
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it happen. They had to go and rescue them. And Will Goodman, Gene Marshall, and Paulette Harlow,
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stunning individuals whom I'm so pleased to introduce you to right now. Stay tuned.
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you for your support, and may God bless you. Hello, my dear friends, and welcome to the outside
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world once again. Thank you so much, John Henry. It's a great honor to be able to join you on your
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program. We appreciate your invitation. Well, let's begin as we always do with the sign of the
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cross. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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Now, it's so great, because I feel like I know you all better than I do. I know you will, but
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the others of you, while we've not met, we've prayed for you every day at LifeSite, and we've
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reported on you so much. We feel like, I feel like kin to you. But not only that, you guys are heroes
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to me and to so many people. And I know that sounds weird to hear for you, but it's beautiful
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for us. You did what we want to do in our hearts, and you got to experience something.
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And it was hard. It wasn't easy. But you got to experience something that we hope, when confronted
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with, we'll be able to say yes to. So anyway, welcome. I'm overjoyed to have you on the show.
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Thank you, John Henry. And just if I might, on behalf of everyone, say that we're really grateful
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for LifeSite News. All of the prayers, all of the letters and support, we receive letters from people
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throughout the world. They had said that they had tuned into LifeSite, they'd heard about our story,
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they're praying for all of us. And when you're alone in a federal prison, and you don't have
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pro-life Catholics around you, and you get a letter from the Netherlands, or from Spain, or Ireland,
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or Mexico, Canada, saying, we're with you, we're praying for you, it just means so much. And so we're
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really deeply grateful for all that LifeSite News did to support us, and really to be a voice for the
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children, because this isn't about us. I don't want to correct you. It's not polite to correct the
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most, but we're not heroes. We're ordinary people who are just trying to help the little
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ones who have no help, and to assist their mothers and fathers. So thanks for all that you've done.
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Will, I will start with you, because when all this was starting, and you knew you were headed for
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prison, and the others were as well, you wrote a beautiful letter in which you hoped and prayed
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that this would not be like capital punishment, because your confreres, those with you in arms to
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fend for the unborn who were also being incarcerated with long sentences, might face their last days
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in prison. And that, thanks be to God, did not happen. But nonetheless, you're sitting there now
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with Jean Marshall, and with Paulette Harlow, and Paulette's husband, John, as well. LifeSite was
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there to take in a lot of that at the time. I remember it was Doug, I think, who interviewed
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you, Paulette, and John. Maybe we'll start with you, Jean, because you experienced some hardships.
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And I know we've covered it at LifeSite, but I think a lot of people viewing this will not have
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seen it yet. People have to understand the gravity of what just happened. It's not, it wasn't, oh,
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they just got arrested and went to jail. What did they expect? And they had to stay in there,
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and it was nice and fine. And no, it wasn't. Jean, if you wouldn't mind explaining some of what went on,
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just in brief, but it was brutal. I'm sorry to say that, but it really was brutal.
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I was traumatized when I was first brought into custody, and the shackles went on my ankles
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and my hands right outside the courtroom. And nobody told me that you should wear socks or pants
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so that it won't hurt your legs. But it felt like razors cutting my skin, my ankles. And it scared me.
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Then when I was brought into custody at Alexandria, Virginia, at the jail there,
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they brought me right into a room from the garage and took my hip stabilizing belt off and threw it
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into the van. Now, let's explain. You need that hip stabilizing belt because you were supposed to have
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You weren't allowed to have that in the first place because of all this.
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Correct. My lawyer asked the judge if I could be sentenced after the surgery because it was
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already scheduled in October. And she said no. And then I asked her again at the sentencing
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on May 15th. And again, she said no. I said, well, I don't want to have the surgery in prison.
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I don't think that's a good idea. I just really did not do a lot of walking initially. I didn't do
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that because I was afraid that I could make it worse. So she said no. And I just didn't understand
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that. I couldn't understand why. Also, the first three weeks of my incarceration at Alexandria,
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I was suffering. I didn't know at the time, but I know it was in a lot of pain and I had pneumonia.
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Yeah. And you weren't provided adequate clothing and coats and whatnot.
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I had to ask for an x-ray. I said, please just do an x-ray. They did a total of about
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three. And I said, no, I understand that there's some infiltrates here because I asked for a report.
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I said, I would like a report of it. And when I saw the report saying there were infiltrates,
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I knew that I had pneumonia. And I said, I'm entitled to be treated. I'm entitled to a diagnosis.
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I'm entitled to be treated. And we might say that both Jean and Paulette are nurses,
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retired nurses with a lot of experience. So they put me on blood pressure medication when
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I first came in because my pressure was up to 200, which has never been that high.
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And, and so they put me on blood pressure medication, which about a month into it caused
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the drug reaction. And, and when they saw that, they took me off of it and put me on prednisone,
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which was great because it took care of the pneumonia too. And that's good. Within a week,
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I was in a night nurse was very, very, very kind to me because she knew I was a nurse. I said,
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you know, I'm not a med seeker. You know, we go to work and we're half dead. And she was shaking
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her head. Yes, that's right. So I felt like I had an ally and I would use the night guard. And so
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you please tell her I need something. I need pain medicine or something, but I'm entitled to a
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diagnosis. So she told the doctor that this is no spring chicken and we better nip this in the bud.
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And I was rocking back and forth with, because I was in pain all night, but finally it was resolved
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with the medication and the prednisone. Paulette, how did you fare in what you had to undergo?
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The judge ruled that I, that she could not find a facility that could accommodate all of my
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complicated needs. And, um, that I was told to go home and try to take care of as many things as
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possible. I was not able to really walk because of, uh, my, uh, my back condition. I did end up having
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two back surgeries. Um, but I was just sent home and she said, try to take care of your, um, you have
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to take care of your, um, your illnesses so that I could go to a prison. But at the time she said
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there was just no place that she could find that a birth comedy. They had accused you, I believe of
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being violent, uh, when this started. Um, and, uh, that when I first read that report, it always made
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me laugh. I thought, Oh, really? Uh, you were in your older years and, and, uh, don't look like a person
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who could be violent, but nonetheless, that was what was charged of you. Was it not? Yes. Um,
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as a matter of fact, my sister, Jean had to come looking for me because I was in the stairwell. I
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couldn't make it up the stairs. I was on the second level and she was concerned. So then she sat with
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me while I made it up to the third level and then finally the fourth level. John, I wanted to get your
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take, what is it like to see your wife undergo these things and be treated and, and regarded as
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such? Because, um, on the inside of the courtroom also, and, and from what you got from the reaction
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of, of some of the crowd anyway, and, and some of the media was pretty vicious. Um, how did that,
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how'd that go for you? I knew the seriousness of her condition. She's got multiple things going on
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and, um, you know, it's a struggle just to sort of, in a sense, stay alive within your own house.
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And, um, to me, uh, incarceration would have been a death sentence. And I, I pleaded with the judge.
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I mean, I know it couldn't happen, but I told her I would go in her place if I could, I would go with
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her, whether it went, if I could, it's just, uh, something that I knew was not going to work out
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if she went to prison. And so, uh, my pleads felt on empty years. And, uh, fortunately we were able
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to keep her at home. So, Will, we contacted you before you knew, uh, about, uh, you're, you were
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coming out. Uh, you didn't, you hadn't heard yet other than to hear that the, the, they said so,
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but there was nothing going on. So what happened?
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The letter that I had written in my fear about my friends receiving potentially capital punishment,
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uh, Jean and Paulette and the others were praying, sitting down in chairs, praying the rosary and
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singing. I was in the hall with some of the others handing out pamphlets. And that's where we were
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the day we were unjustly arrested. And then two years later, we're all getting raided by FBI storm
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troopers in full body armor with weapons drawn. And then of course, the federal prosecutors under Biden,
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uh, in the DOJ were saying that you all run the risk of up to 12 years of federal prison
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for praying and sitting in a row, praying the rosary and sitting in a chair or handing out
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pamphlets in a hallway. And, uh, the guys in the prison couldn't even believe it, but, but knowing
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my friends, their age and their health, uh, that's why I was terrified, frankly, that this might be not
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only just an unjust prison sentence, but even one or two years behind bars could, could be a death
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sentence. And, uh, John's being a little bit modest, but one thing that happened in the courtroom is he
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told the judge that he would go to prison in place of his wife and that he would be willing to go, uh,
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with her to care for her. And I couldn't let John speak to that, but I mean, these, this wasn't
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just bluster or an attempt to use, um, bombastic terms or excitable terms. This was reality.
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The department of justice spent well over a hundred thousand dollars to do a seven state raid
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to pick up grandparents who are peaceful, prayerful people who are there to save lives and to stop
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violence. And then all of the money they spent on the countless us prosecutors, the department of
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justice, civil rights prosecutors, the federal judge, there was like 13 to 15 terabytes of evidence
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that the FBI collected. And the irony is that on the day of the rescue, my friends here were the
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ones that were attacked. I saw them getting pushed and shoved and brutally with like a mop handle in
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the metal part of it. All that still is suffering an injury from Chuck and Joan thought she got tased.
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Um, I was watching Jean bracing herself in a doorway as one of the abortion center workers was using
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all of her force to try to shove Jean out. And it really was almost an object lesson in a sense that
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this is the kind of violence and force that they use for our little brothers and sisters, forcing
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them out of the womb. And then the FBI comes after all of us. So after the show trial, the raids,
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the show trial, and the immediate imprisonment, uh, after 17 months, I was in correspondence with
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Patrick Delaney. And I was under the impression that maybe the president, uh, had overlooked us,
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uh, because my January 6th friends were all released and we were all considered, you know, uh, political
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hostages. But then I also wondered maybe president Trump might be timing things. And Patrick had said,
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maybe it'll time for the anniversary of Roe versus Wade or the March for Life. And I was writing a
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letter at the time. I was in Bravo unit at the Danbury federal prison in Connecticut. And there's
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a three tiered, um, prison block. And I heard one of the guys, Niddy, um, Niddy, who had been a friend
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and who helped me with my concussion and injuries to find a cell at the time of my accident. But, uh,
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Niddy was up on the third floor and started yelling, Goodman. And I wasn't sure if my name
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being called is prison's a loud place and there's a lot of shouting, but he started yelling, Goodman,
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the president's pardoning you. So I tried to hobble up the three floors, uh, at the three, uh, the three
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floors and the steps with my concussion and my sore neck. And sure enough, saw president Trump that he
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had signed the documents and that, uh, we'd be going home. And, uh, later when the officials from
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the prison came forward and asked my name and asked, uh, if I was who I said I was, they said,
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the president of the United States has pardoned you, get your things together. And all the guys
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in the cell block started cheering. So I'll forget that. So God bless the men in Bravo unit. Uh,
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so many men start breaking down and many of those who, uh, the January six guys who were innocent
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prisoners of conscience too, very pro-life, strong men of faith and, uh, who were great support.
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It's important to know that this was a witch hunt way after the fact. Um, and that's how you all ended
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up in this, in this situation, a rescue done two years ago. But let me, let me ask you this. Well,
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tell us a little bit about your incarceration. What happened? It was, it was pretty brutal also
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because of an accident. And tell us about that.
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Yeah. We first spent close to a year in the federal holding in Alexandria and there we were
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locked down in our units for most of the time, uh, not being able to get out of there. A lot of the
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guys were very upset, aggravated. There were fights that were breaking out. We were very grateful, uh,
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that we had opportunities to attend mass, uh, on many occasions while we were there. But at the same
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time, we could have no visitors. Uh, it was, uh, we had, uh, there were prayer vigils outside of the
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prison or the jail rather in Alexandria and we could see them. But, uh, the people who worked
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in the kitchen said that the food was often stamped and it said not fit for human consumption.
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And, uh, I had a terrible infected tooth and, um, they, they said they couldn't give me anything
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for it or do anything, just pull it out. And I needed antibiotics. And it wasn't until about two
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months later that I finally got antibiotics and then was transferred and shipped to Danbury. I was
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in the men's low security and Jean was in the women's federal camp. Uh, and the conditions there
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were deplorable, um, in the Bravo unit, it had been a condemned cell block on the ceiling. Lead paint was
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chipping up and falling. This prison was built in the late 1930s and there was asbestos in certain
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spots coming, uh, coming out. And, uh, one of the most egregious things was we went for about 15 days
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without being given toilet paper. Uh, there were men, male inmates who were defecating in the showers.
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I mean, this is how bad it got. And, uh, meanwhile, ordering commissary men who were suffering from gender
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dysphoria, men who were wearing prison dresses. Some even had had operations to physically alter their
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bodies, mutilate their bodies. They could order in and get mascara. They could get lipstick, perfume,
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all of these things were available. And yet we didn't have toilet paper. And some of the gentlemen
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who, uh, were suffering from cancer and needed chemotherapy, I would sit with them at lunch and
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the different meals in the chow hall. And they would say, well, we're waiting for chemotherapy. We
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can't even get cancer treatment, but we had gender dysphoria. We could probably get the federal
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government to pay for our, uh, our sex mutilation operations, our gender mutilation. So this is the
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situation we have. And, uh, so on the fateful day of November 15th, uh, I had said my prayers and I
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was up on my top bunk, which was about five, five and a half feet up in the air and had, uh, falling
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asleep. I was, uh, at this rosary and, uh, I just rolled right out of the bed. I haven't rolled out of
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a bed since maybe I was four or five years old, but the guards looked at the film to be sure there
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wasn't any foul play. And they said, as I rolled, my head went first. And it's like, when my hips
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hit the frame of the bed, it threw my feet up in the air. So I was just perpendicular with the ground,
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all 170 pounds, uh, down right on my head, suffered various gall fractures, uh, broken nose,
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um, wrenched my neck and lower back. By God's grace, I, I, I thank him. It was a blessing. I was
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knocked unconscious immediately, uh, but I was bleeding profusely. And while I was on the ground,
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this was all before the sun rose. So this is, this was in a different block, the Foxtrot block,
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which was an open dorm of about 80 gentlemen. And right next to me was Zeke, the farmer. He was a
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January 6th guy who was arrested by the FBI in a raid just because he was praying on the grounds of
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the Capitol. Didn't do anything else, but be on the grounds. And I'm grateful that this farmer was
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an early riser and, um, Zeke's a great man. He's a, he's a family man, a husband, a Christian man,
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a father, but he heard my head slam into the floor and he knew immediately, he told me, I knew
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something wasn't right. He jumped out of bed. My bunkie who's on the lower bunk, his name is big Nick
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and big Nick, um, who's, his pro-life, uh, he got up and he saw me on the ground. And these two
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gentlemen, Zeke stayed with me, big Nick ran to get help. And by the time the guards came around
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and realized it was serious. And when they turned the lights on, they, they told me it looked like
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a homicide, uh, site because there was so much blood had it not been for those two gentlemen,
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I probably wouldn't be here for this interview. So I really thank the Lord for these two men to help
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me. And for everyone who was praying, eventually the guards got me to an ambulance. They took me
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to a nearby hospital. I don't remember much of it. This rosary had been around my neck after I
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finished praying my decades, I had put it around my neck and, uh, I could say I was holding on the
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rosary, but it was holding me and you can see it was cut. Uh, this had been blessed by a priest,
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but it had been cut because my head had swollen up so much. They couldn't get it off me. So the nurse,
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God bless her. She tucked it into a pocket and said, I think you're going to need this.
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Um, and it's true. I, I need the rosary, but everybody praying the rosary, everyone interceding
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after 11 hours probably should have stayed overnight because of severe concussion, but 11 hours of being
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shackled to a prison bed, running various tests and getting CT scans and MRIs. They took me back and
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the guards just sort of threw me into one of the cells to fend for myself. And I could hardly,
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I couldn't even tell what was going on. And I think I had some morphine. I didn't feel pain,
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but, uh, that, uh, my, my, one of the cellies, Niddy and another guy named Wood,
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they really showed compassion. They made sure that they, I found a cell. Um, you know,
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the guys took care of me for two weeks. I was for the most part bedridden and the guards never
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checked on me. No medic, no medical care, other inmates and some of the J six guys and people
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our Bible study were bringing food to me so I could eat. Uh, when I went into prison,
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uh, I was, uh, unfortunately a little overweight, but I had lost close to 40 pounds. Um, and,
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and, uh, especially during the time, the first couple of weeks of the severe concussion.
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So, and in the 10 weeks I was there, I was able to see one specialist who said that I didn't need
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surgery. Thanks. Thanks be to God. But I requested a doctor to go through all of my medical records.
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And for the 10 weeks I was in after my, um, concussion, never once was I able to see a
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doctor. So it was just terrible neglect. And my case is one of many. Um, so, uh, along with pardoning
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with, uh, Paulette and Jean, we, we thank president Trump for his pardon because he saved our lives.
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He saved my life. He saved Paulette's life, saved our health.
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A lot of people are going to ask, and I know I can ask you. Uh, so that was not purposely caused.
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You fell out of bed. Uh, that was allowed by our Lord. Why? A lot of people are going to ask,
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why would he allow such a thing? Well, I have to tell you, John Henry, that for the first three or
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four weeks I was having terrible nightmares. It's the, uh, seemed as always having PTSD. I would wake
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up holding onto the frame of the bed and now is on a lower bunk, having these nightmares of falling off
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and trying as much as I could to pray, but these terrible migraine headaches. And at one point I
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could say, you know, Lord Jesus, all I can do now is just offer up my body in the prayer of,
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of pain and trying to recover because prayer was so difficult. I couldn't even pray a decade of the
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rosary and, you know, asking why Lord, why is this happening? And, uh, in fact, our friend Patrick
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Delaney sent me an email and he, what he had done is put out a prayer request for me and shared
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the story of my accident. And so many people were praying, but he shared the words of a mutual friend,
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Jill, who lives in Wisconsin. And Jill was reflecting and she said to me in the email,
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you know, Will, you were sleeping very peacefully there in your bed, very comfortably. And then all
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of a sudden you were torn from your bed, suffered this catastrophic head injury. And she said, this
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reminds me very much of a child who's resting peacefully and gently in his or her mother's womb
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being torn violently from this place. And, uh, it just struck me when I was reading Jill's words
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because where we rescued in DC was a late term abortion facility killing full term babies. We
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believe we have reasons to believe there may have been partial birth abortion happening there for
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your viewers. They can go to justice for the five.com and actually view the images of the bodies of the
00:24:34.860
victims that were recovered from Cesar St. Angelo's place. And Jean and Paul helped mothers who, um,
00:24:41.900
who were visibly pregnant in the third trimester on the day that we rescued. So, um, you know,
00:24:48.540
in God's mysterious plan and in his, his permitting will, I trust him. I don't fully understand,
00:24:54.100
but in the course of this happening, it really has allowed other people to think about what is
00:25:01.280
terrible violence is happening to these babies being born in the womb and late,
00:25:06.620
late stage pregnancy abortions, and even post birth abortions that saves their Angeles. They're
00:25:12.900
inducing labor and killing babies. We believe in there's evidence to show he may be killing babies
00:25:18.580
who have been born in our life. Pope Pius XI said, men must look for the peace of Christ in the
00:25:26.700
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00:25:31.900
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00:25:37.020
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Christ is King. A lot of saints have said that the true work that happens, even in monasteries,
00:25:58.320
happens in the infirmary where the people are sick and dying. So, uh, it's, it's no surprise to me
00:26:04.600
that our, our Lord asks the most of those he loves the most. And, uh, a lot of has been asked of you guys.
00:26:12.440
And, uh, that's, uh, that's why I'm, I'm very happy to talk to you as America's seemingly undergoing
00:26:19.820
quite a revolution. Um, uh, restoration actually is a better word for it. Um, your thoughts on,
00:26:27.740
on what's going on in America right now. We really believe that most Americans do not understand what
00:26:33.040
an abortion is. And, um, do, if you show them a picture of, uh, um, an embryo or fetus, they sort of,
00:26:42.180
uh, you know, recoil from that, but that's, that's how we all started out. And, uh, they,
00:26:48.420
they deserve to be able to stay alive, safe within their mother's womb. And the reason that we go to
00:26:55.900
the clinics is so that we can talk to the mothers and hopefully rescue these babies that are just
00:27:02.380
unjustly being led to slaughter, that we can help save their lives and then try and save the mother's
00:27:07.780
lives. And I think it's very, very telling that when I was a graduate nurse in the early seventies,
00:27:15.680
I could not open a bank account on my own. It wasn't until 1979 as a single woman that I was
00:27:23.080
allowed to open a bank account. Now that's 1979. Wasn't that far, long ago. And look what we've
00:27:29.820
come up by. We've come not that good for, as far as for women, women's, uh, right to have a pregnancy
00:27:37.460
and have help and be supported. And in essence, what we do is we say, Oh, you're, you're pregnant.
00:27:45.000
Planned Parenthood lies and says, it's just a blob of tissue. Well, it's not just a blob of tissue
00:27:50.360
because it has a beating. It has a beating heart at 21 days. He or she has a beating heart at 21
00:27:57.700
days. That's not a blob of tissue. So that's the line number one, uh, line number two. Well,
00:28:03.760
you can also, you can have children later and, um, that'll make up for that. Well, people know that
00:28:09.920
if you've ever had a miscarriage or lost a child, one child does not make up for another child. The
00:28:15.980
child is, is sacred and loved and, and so important. And, uh, the same with these children
00:28:22.180
that are aborted, uh, aborted, the mother will carry within her brain cells of this child.
00:28:29.260
So this, this, this connection that she'll have forever with this child, she'll always be a mother,
00:28:35.060
but she won't have a child. And, uh, we just think that we can do a lot better in, in the United
00:28:42.320
States. I mean, we can help provide, um, housing. We can provide help with, uh, work, making sure
00:28:48.440
they can stay at work, aftercare, furniture, whatever it is that they need. I mean, we've
00:28:54.560
taken up a collection on the sidewalk and had $350 for one lady. And, and, uh, our friend
00:29:00.960
went over and asked the approval that helped chip in because the mother had made a choice. She had chosen
00:29:06.520
life and they, they were not interested in that choice at all. So, uh, they would not, they refused
00:29:12.720
to, um, to contribute to the mother that was in need, but that's what we need to do. We need to
00:29:18.000
take care of women that feel like they're in crisis crisis. They're also going through a tremendous,
00:29:23.600
um, hormonal change. And within this hormonal change, there's a period of ambiguity. Well, that's
00:29:30.720
when the abortionists come in and target them and take advantage of them when they're in this state.
00:29:36.160
Instead of supporting them. Can I ask, Paulette, you and Jean are sisters.
00:29:40.940
Yes. What happened in your family to make you both so hardcore? Like it's unbelievable. Very few
00:29:47.520
people, you can, you can choose a whole whack of society and one out of 10 billion people are going
00:29:53.480
to choose to do what you did, but you have two in the same family. What, what happened?
00:29:58.320
My mother was, my mother was a nurse. My father was a very proud Navy veteran. And, um, we have
00:30:05.820
a lot of nurses in our family and I'll, I'll just explain to you my dad quickly. He, he's
00:30:12.680
in his, um, mid nineties, uh, crippled, barely able to stand. There was a, the parade was going
00:30:19.500
by for St. Patrick's day. It went in front of his door and he pushed his, his way up out
00:30:25.300
of his wheelchair so that he could salute the flag when it went by. And, uh, there were people walking
00:30:32.120
around that could have done the same, but he was just, he's very, very patriotic. He went down to
00:30:38.320
Panama when we were losing the Panama Canal. He actually made a trip down there. He was always
00:30:43.940
writing letters. He was always very, very involved in anything that was happening in
00:30:49.220
the community. He was very supportive. He was just a very, very proud American. He was,
00:30:54.800
he just thought it was just wonderful to be American. And I'll tell you, John Henry, one
00:30:59.640
of the hottest thing for me in this whole ordeal is when I saw the, um, the docket comes through
00:31:05.080
and it said USA versus Paulette Harlow. That, that broke my, that just broke my heart. USA,
00:31:13.540
that the United States of America against Paulette Harlow, that was one of the hottest things to take.
00:31:20.200
One thing I might add, if you don't mind me interrupting Paulette is when the FBI raids were
00:31:25.800
happening, I was in New York doing some pro-life work and staying with a friend. His name is, uh,
00:31:31.440
Henry, and he is, uh, 96 years old and he is, um, a veteran of World War II. And when I explained
00:31:38.800
that the FBI were trying to get me for a peaceful rescue, or Harry is his name. And Harry said,
00:31:44.100
the FBI is coming after you for protecting children and women. It's like, we went to fight in a second
00:31:50.960
world war to protect women and children. He's like, this is not my country. We fought to defend life.
00:31:56.680
And so, um, you know, there's, uh, it's really incredible how things flipped and, you know,
00:32:03.220
going into prison, we had, uh, an environment, uh, and an administration that was throwing
00:32:09.200
peaceful pro-life patriots into prison, giving millions and millions to organizations that slaughter
00:32:15.960
children. They were going after Catholics, especially Catholics who love the beauty of the Latin mass.
00:32:21.240
And it was just like a chaotic world getting thrown into prison. And then coming out, um,
00:32:28.080
here we have a president pardoning rescuers. Um, we have people even in the pro-life movement and
00:32:34.380
sadly in the church who don't like rescuers and a, and a, and a president who said it's an honor to
00:32:38.820
sign the pardon, who looked at what the DOJ was doing, said, this is ridiculous. These people
00:32:43.480
shouldn't be prosecuted. I understand, you know, there's maybe some efforts to defund the abortion
00:32:48.400
industry, you know, special protections for people of faith. So it's really been a, a, a remarkable
00:32:53.740
change coming out. It's like a whole new world. Now, of course, we have a lot more to do and
00:32:58.180
prayers and efforts and reparation to make as our lady of Fatima said, has says, but, um, it's,
00:33:04.400
it's refreshing to see the changes that have been made. And we're very grateful. I turn it over to
00:33:11.620
Paulette knows that I've always been very, very active in the pro-life movement. Politically,
00:33:16.480
everybody knows I'm out there getting signatures for referendums for pro-life candidates. And I,
00:33:22.980
I said, at some point, at some point I have to stop this because I have to just go to the
00:33:29.160
abortuaries and love these women, try to help them because every time, uh, a new administration
00:33:36.940
comes in, they reverse the policy and make it a pro-death, uh, policy. Um, thankfully, uh,
00:33:43.840
President Trump has, you know, reversed that policy again with the Hyde Amendment and, and, uh, the
00:33:49.840
Mexico City policy. But those are policies. But I said, you know, how can we, how can we continue to
00:33:57.140
stand or wait, you know, for these laws to be passed only to have them reversed? I said, meanwhile,
00:34:05.120
these babies are, these children, these sacred little human beings, you know, are, um, are being
00:34:13.220
killed. And I believe the longer we wait, you know, to make a law that will protect all human beings
00:34:22.420
from conception on, that we will continue to dehumanize them. So it's in our culture now that we,
00:34:31.140
many people don't even see them as human beings, you know, but they are sacred little human beings.
00:34:38.240
And, um, what I said to the judge, it, you know, at the, um, the sentencing, because I didn't testify
00:34:45.340
very much, but I said, you know, our, our rights end where another's life begins. And that's a
00:34:52.460
conception is very easy. We even teach our children, Johnny, do not hit your sister. You can raise your
00:34:59.340
hand and play, but you can, I think it's just, we teach at a very basic level. Okay. So, um, it's a
00:35:06.120
very easy message to, to understand. And what is so difficult, why do we have to catch women against
00:35:13.600
their unborn babies? And again, if we take the gospel literally, when Jesus said, whatever you did
00:35:20.200
for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me, because in fact, he was the pre-born Christ.
00:35:26.340
Yes. And, um, and I said, so he also says in the, in the gospel, whatever you did not do
00:35:33.940
for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did not do for me. So it's not left up to just people
00:35:41.140
that, oh, they're a bunch of zealots. No, I think it's really up to everybody to show up at the clinic.
00:35:48.740
Sometimes it's just a matter of showing up. So many people have come, mothers have come and said to us,
00:35:54.660
thank goodness you were here when I came to the abortuary, when I, when I came a year ago, you know,
00:36:01.520
because now I have a beautiful child, you know, and I can't tell you how many times that's happened.
00:36:06.340
We don't see the miracle. We don't see the, the, the results necessarily, but we trust, we know that God
00:36:13.800
God is doing it. God is doing it. And I can honestly tell you when, when you know that God
00:36:23.660
has used you in a very, very special way to save a life, the joy that you'll experience is like
00:36:31.280
the joy you have when you give birth to your own child. That's the kind of joy it is. And
00:36:37.800
I can honestly say that, um, I am so grateful. And when it happens, I am so grateful to go out and
00:36:46.460
praise him that he could use me. And that's, that's all I'm saying that we, more people have to go out
00:36:52.260
to these killing places. You don't have to, they don't have to talk. They just show up, pray,
00:36:58.100
you know, pray the rosary and, um, and do adoration fast, fast and pray because this evil
00:37:06.440
is the worst evil imaginable that we're killing innocent children. So Jesus also said, you know,
00:37:14.240
some evil can only be fought by prayer and fasting. So we're trying to do that too, but
00:37:20.880
abortion is a blood offering to Satan. And this ball is really against the devil and God.
00:37:28.100
And, um, everyone says it's their right. But, um, this baby that's growing inside of them is a
00:37:35.040
separate being. There's two people there. It's not just one person. And that second person has the
00:37:41.220
right to life just as a mother has the right to life. So we have a lot of teaching to do.
00:37:48.100
Paulette, um, John and Will, we've all been sidewalk counseling. I've been sidewalk counseling for
00:37:54.260
10 years in Boston. And does it make, it's not even logical that I would say unkind things
00:38:02.920
to a female patient, a pregnant woman coming in to, you know, to have this abortion. It is not logical
00:38:12.680
that I I've, I've entreated them to, to, to yell at them or to be unkind or certainly to assault them.
00:38:21.860
How can they, how can we possibly save their child if they can't trust us? This is what the opposition,
00:38:28.360
this is what the opposition wants the world to think. The news is to think that we are violent
00:38:33.980
people, you know, when the other ones that are killing the children, I know it's not logical,
00:38:38.720
right? And there were even, even members of the abortion industry who came and testified,
00:38:45.580
they were the ones who attacked us. And they said under oath that we were the ones who attacked
00:38:53.100
them. And I went so far in my sentencing to say that Jean shoved a pregnant woman down on the ground.
00:39:00.900
And, um, I explained in my testimony at the sentencing, I said, this woman came out of the
00:39:07.640
elevator and I could tell right away, she did not look healthy. And I was trying to counsel her with
00:39:12.200
the pregnancy help information. I also had information to hand to her husband about how
00:39:18.160
this abortionist had killed a woman in the very, uh, facility where he was about to take his wife.
00:39:24.500
And it also gave a listing of all of the malpractice suits against him because of, uh,
00:39:30.740
women who have been seriously harmed. The woman who perished there that he killed,
00:39:34.760
they said in the autopsy, they found fetal remains in her lung that his, that it was just,
00:39:41.980
it's a house of horrors. What happened at Cesar St. Angelo's place. And I'm looking at this woman,
00:39:47.400
and I'm looking at, she just does not look well. And, and she was up against the wall and starting
00:39:52.140
to slide. Now she was beginning to go into labor right outside of the center, just the door outside.
00:39:58.280
And I asked her, are you okay? And she shook her head. No, immediately went into the waiting room
00:40:02.940
where, where Jean and Paulette were praying. And with knowing they're both nurses, I said,
00:40:07.220
we have some trouble in the hallway. There's a woman in distress. Jean immediately ran out there,
00:40:12.200
started talking with her very patiently, started, you know, calming her down. She tried to stand up,
00:40:17.180
you know, just hold on right there. We're getting help. She asked me, she said, we need to call 911
00:40:22.080
and get an ambulance. So I went in to the waiting room and none of the rescuers had a cell phone.
00:40:28.620
So I said to the, to the receptionist at the abortion mill, I said, there's a woman in distress
00:40:33.720
in the hallway. We're having problems. Please call 911. We need an ambulance. And very coldly,
00:40:38.040
she looked at me and she said, there are no problems. The only problem is you. But Jean was
00:40:42.300
showing love for that mother, love for that baby. And that's what we do. The pro-life movement loves
00:40:47.640
them both. And, um, the shocking part of it is, uh, you know, the abortion industry says we're the
00:40:54.020
ones who are violent, but we know from sacred scripture that it says of Satan that he was a
00:40:58.920
murderer and a liar from the beginning. And, uh, there are just terrible lies. So even right now,
00:41:05.220
they're trying to say that president Trump pardoned violent pro-life rescuers. Actually,
00:41:10.780
what they're saying is he pardoned anti-abortionists, right? And, uh, nothing could be further from the
00:41:16.600
truth. And I tried to explain to the judge what I witnessed elderly women and an older man getting
00:41:22.180
attacked by the abortion staff. Um, Jean as a nurse rushing with compassion to help this woman in
00:41:27.560
labor, I said to the judge, there's no obstetrics department at this abortion center. There are two
00:41:33.220
patients who are in need. Jean was serving both patients, but the abortionist would kill one of the
00:41:38.520
patients, probably maim and possibly kill the other one. So it's such an honor for me to have rescued and
00:41:45.420
to stand with these, uh, courageous rescuers, Joan Bell being a great leader. Um, and Lauren
00:41:51.900
Handy, uh, uh, John, John Hinshaw, Heather Idoni, Jay Smith, um, Garrity. I mean, these are people
00:42:00.700
who are committed to nonviolent direct action, putting their faith in action. That's what I've
00:42:05.800
witnessed. So for our viewers who are hearing the pro-abortion industry spokespeople saying,
00:42:10.740
oh, we're a violent group. Don't believe the lies. The idea that the women are going into this
00:42:15.900
health care center where you wouldn't go into a health care center where one of the parties
00:42:21.260
come so dead, you know, they get to use the word health care, women's health care.
00:42:28.520
Then parenthood lied recently too. And they said, well, we perform, uh, we also perform, um,
00:42:35.200
mammograms. So I don't know any parenthood facility that provides mammograms. And then they said,
00:42:41.820
well, we, we, uh, provide referrals to mammograms. Breast cancer is the third type of cancer that
00:42:48.540
kills the country. Breast cancer. And caused by abortion. Yes. Yes. Caused by abortion. And that
00:42:55.900
they won't, they won't deal with that. So I don't think they really care as, you know, as much
00:43:02.500
women as they do. John Henry, real quick, is it possible this, uh, beautiful baby Philomena Grace,
00:43:09.820
yeah, she, um, she was a victim of Cesar St. Angelo with the late term abortions. They put the
00:43:16.340
laminaria and she was, um, in her mother's womb living peacefully and Cesar St. Angelo put in the
00:43:26.220
laminaria, which dilates the cervix. And before the mother could return, the woman delivered the baby
00:43:32.740
and the mother put it in the, um, put little Philomena in the toilet at a Chili's, wasn't it? Or a
00:43:42.060
Delivered in the toilet. And, uh, an activist from D.C., Missy Smith, um, had the opportunity to,
00:43:49.400
to, um, work with the courts to obtain the remains of beautiful Philomena Grace and, uh, to have a
00:43:57.600
Holy Mass offered for Philomena, baby Philomena, and then buried in concentrated ground. And, um,
00:44:03.180
it's really an incredible story because the, a pro-lifer who was brutalized in an assault, uh,
00:44:09.600
went to baby Philomena's grave and through the intercession returned to the doctor and the doctor
00:44:15.320
was utterly amazed. A miraculous healing through the intercession of an aborted baby.
00:44:20.300
And people can go to philaminagrace.org, philaminagrace.org and get the stories of, um,
00:44:33.340
Yes, there was a mother who was having difficulty getting pregnant. And so she went to
00:44:37.940
Philomena Grace's, um, grave site and she conceived in a year, less than a year later,
00:44:45.000
she named her newborn baby, Philomena Grace. Imagine if two people from every parish in our
00:44:54.080
archdiocese, in Boston, in Boston, imagine if two people, she should go out two by two, but two people
00:45:01.020
went out to the abortion clinic and clinics. We have two of them in Boston, um, went out to the mills.
00:45:10.080
Can you imagine somebody driving in for an appointment, seeing these couple of hundred
00:45:15.620
people? I don't know how many parishes we have, but we have a lot. And we're just asking you to go
00:45:20.740
out to the clinics and pray. You don't have to get arrested. If God calls you to get arrested,
00:45:27.060
then that's what you do. Um, Chet Gallagher was a police officer in, um, I think it was in Nevada
00:45:32.920
and they were having a rescue and he was so moved. He put down his shield and his gun and he sat down
00:45:38.940
with the, um, the rescuers. And he was one of the people that was just recently pardoned. He was
00:45:45.260
pardoned. Chet was pardoned. This is not hard. And, and we should, as Catholics, especially, we should be
00:45:51.520
leading this, uh, charge that we go to the clinics, that we show this, yeah, that we're really engaged in
00:45:57.980
the spiritual battle. And I hope that since president Trump has been, um, elected that we
00:46:04.640
don't feel like we can just sit back on our laurels. I hope we realize that this is the time for us to
00:46:10.080
really live out in, in person, the book of revelation, that that's our call, but, and that's
00:46:17.500
a call for everybody, every Christian, the time for action. I mean, it's apocalyptic, the millions
00:46:23.700
and millions, global Holocaust, even maybe billions. And that our lady of Fatima said that
00:46:29.580
Russia would spread for errors and that there have been more children slaughtered in the so-called
00:46:36.800
sexual revolution, demonic revolution, more than any other revolution. In fact, all of the other
00:46:42.160
communist revolutions, other wars, more victims than, uh, than any of the others. And, and, and we're
00:46:48.940
called to pray and fast. So when we rescue, we pray and we intervene responding to God's call.
00:46:54.600
But when they throw us in prison unjustly, we're able to fast from our friendship, fast from our
00:46:59.720
freedom, from seeing what we're doing. So prayer and fasting or at Labora, that becomes, call it the
00:47:05.880
monastery of hard knocks. This is the place where we go to pray and, uh, Bible studies, rosary groups,
00:47:11.820
but to really pray because how do we make, how do we begin to make reparation? Where do we even start?
00:47:17.920
When 65 million babies have been slaughtered in America and probably a billion babies have been
00:47:24.380
slaughtered throughout the world since the 1960s with abortifacients, where do we begin with
00:47:29.640
reparation? So, uh, like Paulette just said, I mean, this is apocalyptic, the, the apocalypse of St.
00:47:36.360
John. I mean, that, this is a destruction unlike anything in all of human history. And so we must pray
00:47:42.340
and fast. We must, uh, we got a beautiful statue of Our Lady of Fatima right here with some red roses
00:47:47.440
and, uh, we, we need Our Lady. We need her to crush the head of this, of the serpent because this is
00:47:53.100
satanic, this child sacrifice. And have, um, have people, if they believe abortion is really killing
00:48:01.680
a child, an unborn child, a baby, if they really believe that and they know that, then they should
00:48:08.740
act like it. Indeed. And that's why it's been such a pleasure for me to bring you to them. Uh, my
00:48:15.480
friends, thank you so very much, uh, for coming on. And, uh, I pray that, uh, your fight, that our
00:48:22.700
fight might indeed one day be successful in the United States of America and in Canada, where I live
00:48:27.640
and around the world. Thank you so much for joining us. God bless you. Thank you.
00:48:32.780
Thank you. I'm going to share their prayers. Yes. Yes. Viva Cristo Rey. And God bless all of you.
00:48:43.800
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