Pope Benedict FORCED to Resign？ Vatican Deep-State ties
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Archbishop Vigano has called for a probe into U.S. government pressures on Pope Benedict XVI to resign as he did back in 2013, upsetting the whole Catholic world and putting us into a tailspin like the church has never experienced before in its 2,000-year history.
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Nothing could go on in the Vatican regarding money until the day after Pope Benedict announced
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his resignation. Now, I'm sorry, that's just, that's just not coincidence.
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My friends, welcome to the John Henry Weston Show. It's very interesting today because today
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we are following up on the heels of some very controversial things going on. You will have
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seen the show with Steve Bannon that Liz, you and myself were on, where we talked about what's
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going on in the Vatican right now with the health of Pope Francis being in question, but then also
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what is this? Vigano just called for a look into U.S. government pressures on Pope Benedict to resign
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as he did back in 2013, upsetting the whole Catholic world, putting us into a tailspin
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like the church has never experienced before in his 2,000-year history. We've got with us today,
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in addition to Liz Yor, David Saunier, a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Army who was in special ops
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as well. And he was privy to regime change that the U.S. government was involved in. And did that
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happen with the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI? That would be stunning because then by canon law
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and the rules set out by John Paul II on the election of the Roman pontiff and resignations,
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the resignation would then be invalid, which would then invalidate the papacy of Pope Francis. So
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heady stuff to deal with and an expert. And please God, we hear of the U.S. government releasing
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those records, which we're calling for in a petition that you can get to at lifepetitions.com.
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Liz Yor, David Saunier, so good to be with you both.
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Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father,
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Well, John Henry, back in 2017, shortly after the election of Donald Trump, the first election,
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it became clear in the intervening years since the abdication of Pope Benedict and the unrolling
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of the papacy of Francis that some very strange things were going on.
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We learned that Ted McCarrick was deeply involved in the China deal. In fact, Ted McCarrick, the
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global sexual predator, probably the most prominent churchman in America, if not the world, had
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been involved in the election of Pope Francis. He admittedly said that he had been consulted and
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was, quote, unquote, talking him up. So the opportunity finally arrived for us as laymen to
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reach out to the new president in 2017 and his administration, asking him to investigate
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the deep state collusion, which we believe, between what Archbishop Vigano has called the deep
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church, specifically in the deep state, the role that the Obama-Biden administration played
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to effectuate this one-two punch, as all coups have, abdicating, forcing the resignation
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of Benedict and the installation of Bergoglio. That letter, unfortunately, was never acted upon,
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nor did we really get a response. Our guest today was one of the original signatories along
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with me. But over the last four, then eight years, we've learned a great deal of information
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regarding what was going on behind the scenes with Ted McCarrick. He's now been laicized.
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We've learned a great deal about the role of the American government in color revolutions.
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And interestingly enough, both Dave and I kind of came to the conclusion without originally talking
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to each other, that now was the perfect time to reissue this letter to President Trump. He knows he's
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been at the end of the persecution of the deep state. His administration, which is only, what,
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three weeks old, has been receiving enormous pressure, criticism from Pope Francis, from the bishops
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over what many of us consider in the Catholic Church as a sane policy to build a wall, protect our borders
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and our sovereignty, and deport illegal aliens. So David reached out to me at a time I had originally,
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in November, suggested that we reissue the letter with the new administration. David and I both feel
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very strongly that this letter should be reissued now to an even wiser Donald Trump, who is well aware
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of the deep state machinations. And so I'm delighted to introduce David. And also, at the very same time
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what happened, which was not planned, Archbishop Vigno issues an interview in Italy, saying that he is
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calling on Donald Trump's CIA to investigate the very same thing that we're asking. The one, abdication
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of Pope Benedict, whether or not it was pressured by the American government, the Obama-Biden administration,
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and two, whether or not there were machinations and plans and strategies to install Jorge Bergoglio.
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A lot has been breaking in the last few days on this issue. We're going to find more, I'm sure,
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whistleblowers stepping up. But David has a unique experience and viewpoint, I think, that is
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very, very valuable. And so we're issuing this letter. Actually, it's, we're going to call it a global
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letter, because we know that Catholics around the world want an answer to these questions. So, David,
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you have the floor. I think that last point that you just made is the most important point.
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When you say it wasn't, it wasn't received, well, it wasn't received by President Trump. He did not act on it,
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and he was still trying to play nice. He may have never even seen it. We don't know. But that letter,
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the original copy of the open letter in 2017, January 20th, it was on Inauguration Day,
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was circulated very, very widely. It went viral. It was translated into some languages I didn't even
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recognize. And it was clear that people all over the world expected us to do something about our
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government, to reign in our government. And that's, that's what I think we need to make the focus of
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our talk today really is, you know, it's, it's easy to talk about the shortcomings of the clergy or
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whatever. But this is a little bit more difficult of a subject to take on. And when I also approached
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Michael, Matt, who was one of the people who signed the original letter, this appeared in the
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remnants. And he agreed that maybe it would be best to present this revised letter, this second edition
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in your media and to gather the signatures and so forth, it would probably be more effective to go
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about it that way. So to take on the US government in what appears to be some bullying of the Catholic
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Church. I mean, that's honestly what it looks like. That's a conclusion I've reached a long time ago.
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And that was what drew me to, you know, along with Liz and Michael to draft that original letter.
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We had some very specific things that we were looking at. I could go through the list if you
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want. It's going to be in the, the updated letter links to it, I guess. But, you know, to what end was
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the National Security Agency monitoring the conclave that elected Pope Francis? Now, they're, they're,
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of course, going to deny it. They do deny that they were, they were monitoring it. But we, you know,
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we have to remember, I mean, these are these intelligence officials. I mean, we heard from 51
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of them not too long ago that that, that laptop that some crackhead left at a computer shop was
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Russian disinformation. And that, of course, it was a lie. You know, and here's the thing,
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if they're going to lie to try to skew a US election, do we really think they would have any
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respect for the election of a Pope, for the rules of the conclave? They don't even,
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these people, the authoritarian left, they don't even respect our own election laws and rules. And
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why would they respect the rules of a conclave? In fact, they, they have a deep seated contempt for
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contempt for the Catholic Church. So that's, that's question number one, to what end was the National
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Security Agency monitoring the conclave that elected Pope Francis? Now, that information appeared
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in several places that that, that, that had happened, that they were monitoring the conclave
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and it originated in a panorama, an Italian newspaper, I guess. That's right. And they said
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that they were monitoring not only the conclave, even before Benedict resigned, according to the
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panorama report. And it, but it went all the way back to 2005 as well. And, you know, the information
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that, that came out was just way too specific to, to have just been pulled out of thin air or just
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speculation. And so not only we want to request any information on the eavesdropping operation that
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may have taken place during that 2013 conclave, request it to be made public. Hillary Clinton and
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John Podesta were both discussing the upcoming change in the Vatican in six months. And so their emails
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had been removed from, from WikiLeaks, but it was originally there in the original WikiLeaks dump.
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So this is what, another thing that we, we want investigated. What did they know? How did they know
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what they knew? We also wanted to ask the question, did the U S government operatives have any contact
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with the Cardinal Daniels mafia? Now that's the St. Gallen group. And I don't like the use of the term
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mafia because I, I think that, uh, I hold mafias in higher regard than this group, but, um,
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I think Liz can shed a little bit of light on that. The, the, the, the reason we're asking that
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question is because apparently, well, you go on with what you were saying about Cardinal McCarrick.
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He's one of the members of the St. Gallen group, Liz. Yes, he is. And, uh, Cardinal Daniels,
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actually one of the members of the St. Gallen group, uh, called themselves a mafia. I mean,
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he was very proud that they had been meeting over the years to replace John Paul II with a more
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modern Pope. Uh, they claimed that they, um, broke up after the election of Ratzinger. Um, but, uh,
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they met in St. Gallen, Switzerland on a yearly basis. Uh, there was indication certainly that
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McCarrick was there. There was indication that Bergoglio had been discussed at these meetings. Um,
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so the, the fact that they were meeting on a regular basis to push the church forward into a
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much more modernist, uh, regime. Um, in fact, one of the leaders of the St. Gallen mafia
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was Cardinal Martini of Milan, the Jesuit, who, although brilliant, was, um, quite, quite radically
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liberal. And, um, um, he was actually initially anointed to be the replacement for John Paul II,
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but, um, because he became ill, the second choice became Jorge Bergoglio. So they were kind of proud
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about the fact that they had organized and were hell-bent on replacing the church, the leader of
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the church as some, with someone that was more attuned to, um, the liberal politics, uh, more
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friendly to abortion, more friendly to gay, uh, homosexual priests, uh, more friendly to climate
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change issues, all the modernist issues that we have now been dealing with. Um, in, in another,
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another issue was that we, it was becoming apparent that Joe Biden was very close, um, to,
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uh, Ted McCarrick, um, that Ted McCarrick had been involved in many secret negotiations on behalf of
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Obama and Biden. And then Vice President Biden in June of 2011 had made a secret trip to the Vatican
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to see, uh, uh, Ratzinger, Pope Benedict. Um, that was not on anybody's schedule in how the Italian
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media found out about it is somebody actually saw, um, Biden going in to the Vatican. Um, so there were
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initially a lot of kind of red flags out there that needed, um, we felt, um, a deep dive. And, um, so
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There is, I just want to stress the severity of this because finding that there was in fact pressure and,
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and perhaps severe pressure put on Pope Benedict to resign would invalidate his resignation. I want
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to give the reference just so people know how actually real this is. This is Canon 188 of the
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Code of Canon Law, which states a resignation made out of grave fear that is unjustly inflicted fraud,
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substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself. So if this were found to be the case
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that the U.S. exerted this kind of pressure and it was severe, you would have an undoing of the
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Benedict resignation, which means it was only a couple of years ago that we lost the Pope. Uh,
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and the man in the seat right now is not the Pope at all. It has massive ramifications for the church,
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I would argue for the good of the church. Uh, but nonetheless, what we're talking about is
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extremely, extremely serious. We just got to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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So I wanted to ask you, David, just beyond the monitoring that Panorama reported that was going on,
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you in fact saw such monitoring, uh, happening way before when you were in. Give us some timelines on
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that, but also what kind of pressure was exerted by the U.S. in terms of achieving regime change?
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Okay. Uh, and I'll do that, but I do want to return to what you just brought up about the application of
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pressure to a Pope to force a resignation. There's that, but then there's also a document that Pope,
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uh, Pope, uh, John Paul II issued called University Dominici Gregius. I'm sure you're, um, aware of this
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one, but this one laid out the rules for a conclave very, very clearly. And for, and it's almost as if
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Pope John Paul II had some concern about the upcoming conclave. Now the, the year of this, 1996,
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six, but he was already seriously concerned about secrecy and eavesdropping in this document. If you
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can, anybody can pull it up and read it. It's University Dominici Gregius. He, he mentions the
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word secrecy 17 times. The, it, it mentions recording and audio recording and video recording
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equipment and recording equipment multiple times, multiple paragraphs refer to the need for careful
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and stringent checks to be made with the help of trustworthy individuals of proven technical
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ability in order to assure that no audio visual equipment has been secretly installed multiple
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times. That's mentioned at all levels. And then in the final paragraph, I guess, well, paragraph 76,
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should the election take place in a way other than that prescribed in the present constitution,
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or should the conditions laid out here not be observed? The election is for this very reason,
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null and void, and it confers no right on the one elected. And so even the presence of eavesdropping
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material hardware, you know, within the conclave would apparently, I mean, my reading of this would
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invalidate it. Now, back to that article from the Panorama. Apparently, once it was widely reported that
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this was going on, I have here Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi has played down the claim
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saying, we don't know anything about this. In any case, we don't have any concerns about it. Now,
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we know that NSA is going to deny it, but to hear that from the Vatican spokesman is very concerning
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because it would have been more, uh, I don't know, appropriate of him to say something about this
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is very, very serious. Like you just said, you know, if, if there are rumors that perhaps the,
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there was some monitoring going on, it's very, very serious. Why didn't he point that out? Why
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did he, he just says, Oh no, we're not concerned about it. We don't care either way, whatever.
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Um, that's not quite right now back to what I was, some things that I was seeing in advance. Um,
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the last three years that I was in the, in the army, I was working at the NATO headquarters in
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Brussels. I was, um, you know, an advisor to the U S representative to the, uh, to NATO military
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representative, but also, uh, the head it guy. And I was reading the cable traffic that came across
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and it included state department cable traffic. And let's tell Liz about this is very strange.
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All of a sudden, you know, going from just reading operational types of messages, having to do with
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upcoming deployments and readiness levels of units and changes in the PC standards or whatever.
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I have this message traffic having to do with the state department, state department issues,
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relations with foreign countries, relations with the Vatican, even. And then from time to time,
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there were church related things involved in the cable traffic. And they always put it under the,
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the classification of confidential, at least so that, you know, I couldn't just take a copy of it and go
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bring it back to the States and distribute it or whatever. I mean, I could never copy it and pass
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it along to people without getting into trouble, but it was very clear that within our state department,
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there were people who disagreed vehemently with the teachings of the church that were pushing for
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a modernization. They, they saw Cardinal Ratzinger, our future Pope, and even Pope John Paul II is very
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backwards and stuck in the past. And the word medieval was thrown around sometimes. And I would like to
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appeal publicly to Secretary of State Rubio to go back, let, let me do it. I'll, I'll be glad to go
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back through this stuff, just declassify it. Let's do a Freedom of Information Act type of a release of
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some of this stuff so that American Catholics can see what the government officials at the highest
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levels of the state department thought of us. Now that was the Clinton state department, but I'm sure,
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you know, a lot of those people are professional. They're there for years and years. To me, it was,
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it was a bit shocking. I went down the hall, there was a friend, I had a friend who was,
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I knew to be a good Catholic and I showed it to him. I said, pull this up, take a look at that.
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What do you think of that? And he read it and he just said something about, you know, those are just
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a bunch of state department weenies was I think the word he used. But I, you know, I, to me, I couldn't
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consider it so lightly as that just to say, oh, those are just state department people, because these are,
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these are people who are interacting with people who form our foreign policy. And so after that very
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disturbing series of revelations, uh, like I said, I left the army in 2001. I got as far away from
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Washington DC as I could. And I, it wasn't until 2013 when I heard that Pope Benedict had resigned
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that I started thinking, you know, this just doesn't look right. I mean, I knew that they,
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I knew they didn't like him. I knew that there were people placed very high in our government who
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didn't like him. And I think that's what we need to make the, the, you know, the focus of our,
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our concern these days is what is the government's doing with our church? They have no business
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monitoring our conclays. They have no business even concerning themselves with what our church teaches.
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They can mind their own business. And that's what we need to push for. We need to push for
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accountability for people in our government who have been involved in any such thing.
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And then we also need to make it very, very clear that we're not putting up with any of this. And
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Liz made a great point. People all over the world are counting on us to do this. People, that first
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open letter went, went all over the world. People all over the world were so excited that maybe a group
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of American Catholics were going to finally bring some accountability to our government. And it went to
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nowhere. And I don't, we can't entirely blame Donald Trump for that. Again, he was trying to
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play the nice guy. He, you know, but we have a different, there's a different man in the White
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House now and he's, he's been threatened. And so he's ready to investigate. And so are we. So we're
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He, he recognizes the deep state and hopefully through the words of the, Archbishop Pino is
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very well, Archbishop Vigano, he recognizes the relationship between the deep church and
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the deep state. Now it's interesting, over on Bannon's show, Liz, you said something very
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apropos. And to your point, David, I just want to play devil's advocate for a second, because
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the government of the Clintons, of the Obama-Biden government, and then the Biden government,
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were all the same in that they were globalists, they were elitists, and they have a very set
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agenda, which is the opposite of that, of the Catholic church. In fact, I think you put
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it, Liz, that Ratzinger stood in the way of the whole globalist agenda. On all of those
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very points where they are most concerned, when you have the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi,
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denied Holy Communion by our Bishop, and then the Pope comes to her rescue, has her receiving Holy
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Communion in papal mass. The same day, he releases a letter saying that the only thing needed to
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receive Holy Communion is faith, and publicly criticizes that very Archbishop who denied her
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Holy Communion three times in public. That's when you know you've got a tool in the chair of Peter,
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rather than his predecessors, who are all about denying Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians.
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And you have that on abortion, on euthanasia, on same-sex marriage, on the transgender issue,
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on immigration, illegal immigration. It's basically like all the seven sacraments of the left
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are being held up, held back by Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict, and that had to be done away with.
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You know, similarly, the knife in the back to Ratzinger was when Nancy Pelosi, I think it was in
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2008 or so, went to the Vatican, insisted on meeting Pope Benedict. And after the meeting,
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although he usually only met with heads of state, and after the meeting, she came on and said,
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oh, we had a lovely discussion about the poor, and about how wonderful the church is, and
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uncharacteristically of Ratzinger and diplomacy, he issued a huge, loud, actually very, very powerful
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statement saying that he disagrees with Pelosi about her position on abortion, that he told her so,
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that abortion is the preeminent evil in the church, and that politicians who are Catholics should be
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denied communion if they promote pro-abortion policies. And it was a total throwdown on Nancy
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Pelosi that was public and vociferous, and they had nothing, nothing could say. Now, I too have read
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additional cable traffic that was released under WikiLeaks with Julian Assange. And these cable and
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diplomacy statements were coming through after Pope Benedict became Pope, and they were monitoring his
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statements, his edicts, who he was meeting with. And it was very clear, like David said, it was very clear
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that the State Department political hacks from the embassy in the Vatican were not pleased with the
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strong positions that Benedict was taking on the issues of the global reset of the globalists of the new
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world order. He immediately was backtracking and realizing that the climate change hoax had become
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devoid of any scientific backing, devoid of any scientific backing, and was demanding that if we're going to talk
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about climate change, we need to bring the science into the issue. Secondly, he talked about, and he wrote, as we all
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will recall, to the U.S. bishops saying, do not, do not give communion to pro-abort Catholic politicians. Now, we know what
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happened to that letter. That letter was deep-sixed by none other than Theodore McCarrick and never reached
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maximum exposure. Also, what I find interesting in reading these cables, and which to me was a huge red flag, was that
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Benedict ceased all negotiations with the Chinese Communist Party with respect to the appointment of bishops. And he did this,
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and it's in the cable from the U.S. embassy to the State Department saying that Benedict no longer
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trusted the CCP to keep their end of the bargain. And so what happened when Bergoglio was immediately
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installed? Within a few months, he sent none other than McCarrick to China to restart the negotiations over
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the appointment of bishops and how they are negotiated. Now we have a CCP cardinal. Now we
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have bishops appointed by the CCP. And should I add, actually, that Francis did that after being warned
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by Vigano that McCarrick was an abuser. Unreal. That's correct. All the hot button issues that were
00:28:08.420
the darling issues of the New World Order. In addition to, we know the Benedict to the name Benedict
00:28:14.460
after Saint Benedict, to re-Christianize Europe. That was his goal as Pope. And what happened was,
00:28:22.120
is that he started writing and talking to the EU and to prime ministers that he wanted God and the
00:28:31.380
Christian faith to become the center of Europe and to re-Christianize Europe. Now this was in direct
00:28:38.280
contravention to the planned 2015 Muslim migration into Europe that we now are seeing. The results of
00:28:47.380
huge surge in violence and disruption of society. So there are all these issues. And finally,
00:28:56.960
you know, the State Department and the American government knew that they would find nobody smarter
00:29:03.680
than Ratzinger to articulate both historically, theologically, politically, and under natural law,
00:29:12.620
these important issues and arguments. He was a huge obstacle to the rolling out of the global reset
00:29:23.880
and the New World Order. So it became very clear that he had to be removed because what the New World
00:29:31.900
Order didn't have and was looking for is a moral voice to support its efforts. So they had to get rid of
00:29:41.720
Benedict and replace him with somebody that they would trust and would carry out their agenda so that
00:29:48.920
they would have the backing of the Vatican, the vigor of Christ, to support their immoral agenda in
00:29:57.760
the vaccine, in climate change, in the Paris Treaty, in the UN Sustainable Development Goals,
00:30:04.780
all pro-abortion disastrous to civilization in undermining the Catholic teaching.
00:30:11.960
David, in your experience from having been on the inside track of this, what tactics does the
00:30:19.980
U.S. use to achieve regime change? And how could that then apply to the Vatican Pope Benedict?
00:30:28.740
So one of the things that we ask about, though, that is an excellent question. So one of the things
00:30:33.580
that we ask about in that 2017 letter, and we reiterate this, okay, international money transactions
00:30:40.380
with the Vatican were suspended during the last few days prior to the resignation of Pope Benedict.
00:30:46.580
Suspended. Why were any U.S. government agencies involved in this? And the next question is,
00:30:52.320
why were international money transactions resumed on February 12, 2013, the day after Benedict XVI
00:30:58.460
announced his resignation? Was this a pure coincidence? So a technique to force a resignation would be
00:31:05.900
something as simple as that. Just shut off no swift transactions for the Vatican until this Pope
00:31:12.280
agrees to step down. That is something that actually happened. They couldn't make their payroll. You
00:31:17.820
couldn't draw money to the ATMs. Nothing could go on in the Vatican regarding money until the day after
00:31:24.020
Pope Benedict announced his resignation. Now, I'm sorry, that's just not coincidence.
00:31:28.940
Pope Pius XI said men must look for the peace of Christ in the kingdom of Christ. And he urged that
00:31:37.540
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00:31:43.080
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00:32:01.880
There were some other pressure points that people have speculated on. It was a central focus at the
00:32:09.220
beginning. During the resignation time, there was a lot of theories buzzing around, one of which was the
00:32:14.700
swift banking fiasco, because nobody could understand that. There were other thoughts about his brother,
00:32:23.260
Georg, being involved with some choir that had sexual abuse allegations, and that he could be tied to that
00:32:30.620
or pressured that way. Liz, some other thoughts there.
00:32:34.120
Yeah, you know, my hunch is, is that this was a full scale operation, probably led by the United States
00:32:42.580
government, but many other countries who were favorable to the globalist agenda, chimed in to do their part.
00:32:52.300
There was the Downpotson scandal, where his brother, Pope Benedict's brother, beloved brother, who frankly,
00:33:02.660
he talked to every day on the phone. So if the NSA was listening to conversations between the two brothers
00:33:09.140
on a regular basis, as many have said, then they would have known that there was a scandal breaking out
00:33:17.180
in Germany, where his brother was the choir director in a school where many boys were disclosing that
00:33:24.620
they had been sexually abused. That allegation was not made against his brother. However, there was
00:33:31.520
allegations of physical abuse on the young boys, the choir boys. Interesting enough, and you know, in reading
00:33:37.420
the media tea leaves, all of a sudden, that story just died on the vines. And it made me wonder whether
00:33:45.020
they were just using that as one of many pressure points. No, he loved nobody more than he loved his
00:33:51.500
brother, who is, you know, a beloved priest in Germany. They both became ordained priests at the same time.
00:33:59.020
And so they were using every single resource they could, in my opinion, in based on, you know, the, you know,
00:34:08.620
overwhelming evidence that he needed to be pressured into stepping down. No, interestingly, you know,
00:34:17.660
the theological arguments, the language he used in his resignation, there's been great work done by
00:34:24.140
and Barnhart and Ed Mazza, with respect to whether or not he actually resigned. But I think what we're
00:34:32.220
talking about are kind of the political machinations that were involved. Some of the other pressures at
00:34:37.940
the time, if we recall, that was the time also the Vatili scandal, where his butler was involved in
00:34:43.340
stealing papers from him, right off Benedict's desk. So that was all going on. And then there was,
00:34:48.580
which seems to be a regular occurrence, the sort of the Vatican Bank scandals at the same time. So there were
00:34:56.360
a lot of pressures at the time. But if we think about this, you also have internal pressures from the
00:35:06.480
heretic cardinals and bishops around him. And to me, that's the worst. So you have all this external pressure
00:35:14.080
that governments might have. Let's say there's a foreign power looking to do regime change. You know,
00:35:21.620
they're going to get financial pressure, all these sort of things happening to them externally. But then
00:35:29.840
internally, they're also going to have pressure from their own citizens, from their own, you know,
00:35:36.860
up and coming leaders who want to take over and so on. And you had that in the church as well. You have
00:35:41.980
massive globalists on the inside of the church, which Archbishop Vigano refers to as the deep
00:35:47.700
church. And we can name them because we know who the players are, McCarrick being probably
00:35:52.720
numero uno. But you have this whole cadre of them right now. All of them are installed,
00:35:58.500
especially if we look to the United States, you have the triumvirate of cardinals. When you have
00:36:03.220
Tobin, McElroy, and Cupich, talk about the globalists being on the inside, those who want a different
00:36:09.340
church who sort of have it at this point in terms of where this papacy has gone on all of those issues
00:36:17.160
that are so near and dear to the hearts of globalists. It's an incredible thing.
00:36:21.080
That's a great point, because as you'll recall, we learned that Cardinal Martini, who was a friend,
00:36:27.120
although a radical liberal, a friend of Benedict, visited him in the summer of 2012. And I think
00:36:34.420
according to Ganshwein, or no, I think actually it is Martini, he said, he told Benedict, now's the
00:36:43.080
time to resign. You should resign. You've lost control of the curia. You've lost control of the
00:36:49.760
church. So to your point, John Henry, the internal pressure was building on this, you know, frail,
00:36:57.360
kind gentleman of a Pope. And so I think, you know, all those factors, and then of course,
00:37:04.720
the coup de grace was, we'll turn off the bank. We'll just, in the midst of, you know, a lot of
00:37:11.320
tourism. And so that was kind of, I think, the final message.
00:37:17.300
Liz, do you have a theory on how, what the purpose of that meeting was between Pope Benedict and Joe
00:37:26.320
Biden, Vice President Biden? I mean, you were the one that wanted to insert that item into the open
00:37:31.500
letter in 2017. Do you have some thoughts on what was going on there?
00:37:36.140
My legal experience always, when there are secret agreements or secret meetings,
00:37:43.060
then there are nefarious things that are going on. We know that with all the secret agreements that
00:37:47.360
McCarrick was involved in. We still don't know about the secret agreement with the Chinese government
00:37:53.540
in the Vatican. The fact that it was not on either of their calendars, was there a message blocked?
00:38:02.360
I mean, these are questions we need to know, in which documents, both at the National Archives
00:38:07.280
and Records Administration, and Doge and the White House should have those records. What was the purpose?
00:38:15.620
What was the readout after the meeting? What happened? Did Joe Biden say, it's time, you know,
00:38:22.960
for your sake, for the sake of the church, it's time to step down? It's merely speculation. But the
00:38:29.240
secretive, clandestine nature of it is very curious to me.
00:38:34.040
The date you have on that is June 3rd, 2011. In advance, significantly in advance. But do you think
00:38:40.440
it's possible the purpose of that meeting then was, okay, it's time for you to step down?
00:38:44.520
Well, let's not forget, one of the closest people to Joe Biden was Theodore McCarrick. And Theodore
00:38:53.340
McCarrick was the global roving ambassador for the Obama administration and for Pope Francis,
00:39:02.040
as well as being a global sexual predator. So, you know, McCarrick would have been able to pull the
00:39:10.100
strings, orchestrate whatever. And, you know, I just, I thought that was very strange. And we know
00:39:16.920
that there was this constant building of pressure. And then in comes Joe Biden. I want to see a readout
00:39:23.320
of that meeting. And the American Catholics and the global Catholics have a right to know whether
00:39:29.540
the American government was involved in pressuring Benedict to step down. Was there a threat? We know
00:39:35.800
that Joe Biden wasn't shy about threatening the president of the Ukraine publicly and told about
00:39:42.840
how he was going to cut off aid if they didn't fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son.
00:39:49.960
So, you know, all, who knows? I mean, but it's critical to ask these questions. We deserve answers.
00:39:57.500
Okay. So one way that we can possibly get to the bottom of some of this would be to give whatever
00:40:04.800
kind of diplomatic immunity or immunity of whatever is necessary to Julian Assange and Edward Snowden to
00:40:12.540
be able to appear before Congress and answer some questions about what they know. Both of those two
00:40:18.140
individuals are mentioned in that article that that's the third link in the letter. Okay. That that
00:40:23.640
particular article from the Catholic Register. I think it mentions WikiLeaks, but also Edward Snowden,
00:40:29.880
some of what he has revealed has confirmed some of this. And so we believe, and I think we should
00:40:35.040
insist as Catholics, that that those two individuals should be given whatever kind of immunity
00:40:39.880
is necessary for them to appear before Congress and answer questions. The second thing I want to talk
00:40:45.920
about was regarding the strange relationship between the U.S. government and the Catholic Church is
00:40:51.320
what in the world is this thing about the FBI wanting to investigate Catholics attending the
00:40:58.440
traditional mass? I think that we need to get to the bottom of that. Hopefully, God willing, before too
00:41:05.380
long, Kash Patel will be the director of FBI maybe by the time this is released. We need to know what is
00:41:12.980
the extent of that operation. I happen to be convinced it's been going on for a long time, and it was
00:41:17.640
apparently not just not confined to the Richmond office either. It was much broader in scope than
00:41:25.040
that. And so we need to know, we have a right to know as Catholics, okay, why was this operation
00:41:31.320
carried out? And we also need to know the names and see the photos of the individuals involved. If
00:41:36.380
there were agents who actually were, quite frankly, dumb enough to agree to participate in this instead
00:41:42.760
of going to their boss and saying, no, that's inappropriate, I'm not doing that. That would
00:41:47.080
have been the right way to handle this. You're working for the FBI, they'll tell you, okay, go,
00:41:52.360
you know, sit in and listen on what's going on with this Latin mass over here. And the appropriate
00:41:57.880
response is no, that's no, no, no, no. That's not, you know, a group of people who are getting together
00:42:04.120
to practice their faith the way that Catholics have for the past 1500 years. That is not a threat to
00:42:10.480
anybody. That is a threat to nobody. And so we need to know the names of the individuals involved,
00:42:16.040
whatever agents were involved. We need to see their pictures so that, and this is not for
00:42:20.320
retribution. This is for charitable reasons. This is because why? Because now we can, we can pray for
00:42:25.720
those individuals who are fake Christians, who are pretended to be Christians. We can, and we can,
00:42:30.560
maybe they received Holy Communion sacrilegiously. Okay. These people are in need of our prayers. And so we
00:42:37.180
want to know who they are. And, but they also need to be fired. And so do whoever was involved in this
00:42:44.580
operation needs to be fired. And it just needs to be done with such a finality that there is never
00:42:49.920
any thought of doing such a thing ever again. David, Liz, final thoughts as we wrap up here.
00:42:55.040
I want to encourage people to go to lifepetitions.com, sign on to this letter yourself. This is to
00:43:01.280
encourage President Trump to release these records through his administration. We're going to get
00:43:06.680
this delivered to the president. I'm hoping that our good friend, Father Altman, will be able to
00:43:12.820
take that message to him directly. But this really needs to happen. And this time with a president who's
00:43:20.940
much more aware of the deep state and the deep church, and that these are warring factions, and that
00:43:28.160
this is not some, you know, oh, let's be conservative. I'm sure they'll work with us. No,
00:43:32.180
they're enemies. And, and he now knows that. So God willing, we have this clarity. And boy,
00:43:38.720
would it be a boon for the church today. We'd just be incredible. David, your final thoughts.
00:43:42.880
I just want to thank you for giving this effort, your attention and your support. And I want to
00:43:48.900
encourage people to, okay, try not to focus so much on the shortcomings of our clergy. That's,
00:43:56.380
that's out there, but let's try to focus on what has our government been up to. Catholics all over
00:44:01.900
the world are expecting us to reign in our government. Let's get control of it. We have
00:44:06.260
an opportunity now. So sign on to this effort. Amen to that. Liz, take us away.
00:44:11.360
Say, why is this letter to Trump so important? The deep state and deep church cabal is already
00:44:18.620
attacking the Trump administration's deportation policy. It is deep state and deep church cabal
00:44:26.280
has remained woefully silent over the Catholic Joe Biden's abortion policy. The deep state and deep
00:44:35.000
church cabal has already attacked J.D. Vance, our vice president and Catholic convert, Tom Homan,
00:44:42.760
our czar at the border and Catholic about building a wall to protect our country.
00:44:50.200
This has been only the first few weeks of this administration. They're not backing off since
00:44:55.400
the moment they pressured Benedict to step down. The last dying gasp of the global elites is that they
00:45:03.320
are relying heavily on the Francis church to undermine the MAGA movement, the populist movement around the
00:45:13.800
world, which are desperately trying to raise up Jesus Christ as our King and Savior. This is why this
00:45:22.520
letter is so important and must be addressed and acted on forthwith.
00:45:28.520
Amen to that. Thank you so much, David, Liz, for joining us. God bless you. And may this letter
00:45:34.520
not only reach President Trump, but may he act on it. And please, my friends, keep that in your prayers.
00:45:41.080
And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.
00:45:43.560
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