The John-Henry Westen Show - Pope Benedict FORCED to Resign？ Vatican Deep-State ties

00:00:00.000 Nothing could go on in the Vatican regarding money until the day after Pope Benedict announced

00:00:05.500 his resignation. Now, I'm sorry, that's just, that's just not coincidence.

00:00:17.840 My friends, welcome to the John Henry Weston Show. It's very interesting today because today

00:00:22.860 we are following up on the heels of some very controversial things going on. You will have

00:00:28.780 seen the show with Steve Bannon that Liz, you and myself were on, where we talked about what's

00:00:34.540 going on in the Vatican right now with the health of Pope Francis being in question, but then also

00:00:41.040 what is this? Vigano just called for a look into U.S. government pressures on Pope Benedict to resign

00:00:49.680 as he did back in 2013, upsetting the whole Catholic world, putting us into a tailspin

00:00:55.900 like the church has never experienced before in his 2,000-year history. We've got with us today,

00:01:02.240 in addition to Liz Yor, David Saunier, a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Army who was in special ops

00:01:10.340 as well. And he was privy to regime change that the U.S. government was involved in. And did that

00:01:19.540 happen with the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI? That would be stunning because then by canon law

00:01:27.360 and the rules set out by John Paul II on the election of the Roman pontiff and resignations,

00:01:32.540 the resignation would then be invalid, which would then invalidate the papacy of Pope Francis. So

00:01:38.760 heady stuff to deal with and an expert. And please God, we hear of the U.S. government releasing

00:01:45.760 those records, which we're calling for in a petition that you can get to at lifepetitions.com.

00:01:51.180 Liz Yor, David Saunier, so good to be with you both.

00:01:53.360 Great to be with you.

00:01:54.760 Good to be with you.

00:01:55.740 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father,

00:01:59.880 and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

00:02:03.320 Amen.

00:02:03.980 Liz, tell us what's going on.

00:02:05.080 Well, John Henry, back in 2017, shortly after the election of Donald Trump, the first election,

00:02:15.080 it became clear in the intervening years since the abdication of Pope Benedict and the unrolling

00:02:25.220 of the papacy of Francis that some very strange things were going on.

00:02:33.080 We learned that Ted McCarrick was deeply involved in the China deal. In fact, Ted McCarrick, the

00:02:44.580 global sexual predator, probably the most prominent churchman in America, if not the world, had 0.96

00:02:53.480 been involved in the election of Pope Francis. He admittedly said that he had been consulted and 0.94

00:03:01.480 was, quote, unquote, talking him up. So the opportunity finally arrived for us as laymen to

00:03:10.060 reach out to the new president in 2017 and his administration, asking him to investigate

00:03:17.560 the deep state collusion, which we believe, between what Archbishop Vigano has called the deep

00:03:25.140 church, specifically in the deep state, the role that the Obama-Biden administration played

00:03:33.640 to effectuate this one-two punch, as all coups have, abdicating, forcing the resignation

00:03:40.600 of Benedict and the installation of Bergoglio. That letter, unfortunately, was never acted upon,

00:03:50.780 nor did we really get a response. Our guest today was one of the original signatories along

00:03:58.280 with me. But over the last four, then eight years, we've learned a great deal of information

00:04:07.120 regarding what was going on behind the scenes with Ted McCarrick. He's now been laicized.

00:04:14.960 We've learned a great deal about the role of the American government in color revolutions.

00:04:23.020 And interestingly enough, both Dave and I kind of came to the conclusion without originally talking

00:04:28.760 to each other, that now was the perfect time to reissue this letter to President Trump. He knows he's

00:04:36.540 been at the end of the persecution of the deep state. His administration, which is only, what,

00:04:43.460 three weeks old, has been receiving enormous pressure, criticism from Pope Francis, from the bishops

00:04:53.820 over what many of us consider in the Catholic Church as a sane policy to build a wall, protect our borders

00:05:02.580 and our sovereignty, and deport illegal aliens. So David reached out to me at a time I had originally,

00:05:10.220 in November, suggested that we reissue the letter with the new administration. David and I both feel

00:05:17.360 very strongly that this letter should be reissued now to an even wiser Donald Trump, who is well aware

00:05:26.880 of the deep state machinations. And so I'm delighted to introduce David. And also, at the very same time

00:05:36.400 what happened, which was not planned, Archbishop Vigno issues an interview in Italy, saying that he is

00:05:45.240 calling on Donald Trump's CIA to investigate the very same thing that we're asking. The one, abdication

00:05:52.980 of Pope Benedict, whether or not it was pressured by the American government, the Obama-Biden administration,

00:06:00.760 and two, whether or not there were machinations and plans and strategies to install Jorge Bergoglio.

00:06:10.820 A lot has been breaking in the last few days on this issue. We're going to find more, I'm sure,

00:06:17.900 whistleblowers stepping up. But David has a unique experience and viewpoint, I think, that is

00:06:28.280 very, very valuable. And so we're issuing this letter. Actually, it's, we're going to call it a global

00:06:35.160 letter, because we know that Catholics around the world want an answer to these questions. So, David,

00:06:43.280 you have the floor. I think that last point that you just made is the most important point.

00:06:51.200 When you say it wasn't, it wasn't received, well, it wasn't received by President Trump. He did not act on it,

00:06:56.980 and he was still trying to play nice. He may have never even seen it. We don't know. But that letter,

00:07:03.680 the original copy of the open letter in 2017, January 20th, it was on Inauguration Day,

00:07:11.240 was circulated very, very widely. It went viral. It was translated into some languages I didn't even

00:07:16.880 recognize. And it was clear that people all over the world expected us to do something about our

00:07:23.820 government, to reign in our government. And that's, that's what I think we need to make the focus of

00:07:28.240 our talk today really is, you know, it's, it's easy to talk about the shortcomings of the clergy or

00:07:33.920 whatever. But this is a little bit more difficult of a subject to take on. And when I also approached

00:07:41.040 Michael, Matt, who was one of the people who signed the original letter, this appeared in the

00:07:46.100 remnants. And he agreed that maybe it would be best to present this revised letter, this second edition

00:07:52.700 in your media and to gather the signatures and so forth, it would probably be more effective to go

00:07:57.640 about it that way. So to take on the US government in what appears to be some bullying of the Catholic

00:08:07.200 Church. I mean, that's honestly what it looks like. That's a conclusion I've reached a long time ago.

00:08:12.600 And that was what drew me to, you know, along with Liz and Michael to draft that original letter.

00:08:18.520 We had some very specific things that we were looking at. I could go through the list if you

00:08:23.740 want. It's going to be in the, the updated letter links to it, I guess. But, you know, to what end was

00:08:31.200 the National Security Agency monitoring the conclave that elected Pope Francis? Now, they're, they're,

00:08:39.460 of course, going to deny it. They do deny that they were, they were monitoring it. But we, you know,

00:08:44.440 we have to remember, I mean, these are these intelligence officials. I mean, we heard from 51

00:08:48.860 of them not too long ago that that, that laptop that some crackhead left at a computer shop was

00:08:57.320 Russian disinformation. And that, of course, it was a lie. You know, and here's the thing,

00:09:01.400 if they're going to lie to try to skew a US election, do we really think they would have any

00:09:06.760 respect for the election of a Pope, for the rules of the conclave? They don't even,

00:09:10.960 these people, the authoritarian left, they don't even respect our own election laws and rules. And

00:09:17.280 why would they respect the rules of a conclave? In fact, they, they have a deep seated contempt for

00:09:21.820 contempt for the Catholic Church. So that's, that's question number one, to what end was the National

00:09:28.680 Security Agency monitoring the conclave that elected Pope Francis? Now, that information appeared

00:09:36.020 in several places that that, that, that had happened, that they were monitoring the conclave

00:09:42.440 and it originated in a panorama, an Italian newspaper, I guess. That's right. And they said

00:09:48.200 that they were monitoring not only the conclave, even before Benedict resigned, according to the

00:09:53.960 panorama report. And it, but it went all the way back to 2005 as well. And, you know, the information

00:09:59.220 that, that came out was just way too specific to, to have just been pulled out of thin air or just

00:10:04.740 speculation. And so not only we want to request any information on the eavesdropping operation that

00:10:11.740 may have taken place during that 2013 conclave, request it to be made public. Hillary Clinton and

00:10:18.260 John Podesta were both discussing the upcoming change in the Vatican in six months. And so their emails

00:10:25.160 had been removed from, from WikiLeaks, but it was originally there in the original WikiLeaks dump.

00:10:29.940 So this is what, another thing that we, we want investigated. What did they know? How did they know

00:10:34.840 what they knew? We also wanted to ask the question, did the U S government operatives have any contact

00:10:39.400 with the Cardinal Daniels mafia? Now that's the St. Gallen group. And I don't like the use of the term

00:10:46.040 mafia because I, I think that, uh, I hold mafias in higher regard than this group, but, um, 1.00

00:10:54.820 I think Liz can shed a little bit of light on that. The, the, the, the reason we're asking that

00:10:59.560 question is because apparently, well, you go on with what you were saying about Cardinal McCarrick.

00:11:03.780 He's one of the members of the St. Gallen group, Liz. Yes, he is. And, uh, Cardinal Daniels,

00:11:09.020 actually one of the members of the St. Gallen group, uh, called themselves a mafia. I mean,

00:11:14.260 he was very proud that they had been meeting over the years to replace John Paul II with a more

00:11:21.220 modern Pope. Uh, they claimed that they, um, broke up after the election of Ratzinger. Um, but, uh,

00:11:31.280 they met in St. Gallen, Switzerland on a yearly basis. Uh, there was indication certainly that

00:11:38.240 McCarrick was there. There was indication that Bergoglio had been discussed at these meetings. Um,

00:11:46.560 so the, the fact that they were meeting on a regular basis to push the church forward into a

00:11:54.660 much more modernist, uh, regime. Um, in fact, one of the leaders of the St. Gallen mafia

00:12:01.320 was Cardinal Martini of Milan, the Jesuit, who, although brilliant, was, um, quite, quite radically

00:12:09.560 liberal. And, um, um, he was actually initially anointed to be the replacement for John Paul II,

00:12:16.620 but, um, because he became ill, the second choice became Jorge Bergoglio. So they were kind of proud

00:12:25.280 about the fact that they had organized and were hell-bent on replacing the church, the leader of

00:12:33.100 the church as some, with someone that was more attuned to, um, the liberal politics, uh, more 0.54

00:12:39.920 friendly to abortion, more friendly to gay, uh, homosexual priests, uh, more friendly to climate 0.80

00:12:47.920 change issues, all the modernist issues that we have now been dealing with. Um, in, in another,

00:12:55.540 another issue was that we, it was becoming apparent that Joe Biden was very close, um, to,

00:13:03.100 uh, Ted McCarrick, um, that Ted McCarrick had been involved in many secret negotiations on behalf of

00:13:10.660 Obama and Biden. And then Vice President Biden in June of 2011 had made a secret trip to the Vatican

00:13:21.460 to see, uh, uh, Ratzinger, Pope Benedict. Um, that was not on anybody's schedule in how the Italian

00:13:30.300 media found out about it is somebody actually saw, um, Biden going in to the Vatican. Um, so there were

00:13:39.060 initially a lot of kind of red flags out there that needed, um, we felt, um, a deep dive. And, um, so

00:13:48.760 that was the, the nature of the letter.

00:13:52.040 There is, I just want to stress the severity of this because finding that there was in fact pressure and,

00:13:59.140 and perhaps severe pressure put on Pope Benedict to resign would invalidate his resignation. I want

00:14:06.300 to give the reference just so people know how actually real this is. This is Canon 188 of the

00:14:12.280 Code of Canon Law, which states a resignation made out of grave fear that is unjustly inflicted fraud,

00:14:19.580 substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself. So if this were found to be the case

00:14:27.640 that the U.S. exerted this kind of pressure and it was severe, you would have an undoing of the

00:14:34.400 Benedict resignation, which means it was only a couple of years ago that we lost the Pope. Uh,

00:14:40.100 and the man in the seat right now is not the Pope at all. It has massive ramifications for the church,

00:14:46.500 I would argue for the good of the church. Uh, but nonetheless, what we're talking about is

00:14:50.740 extremely, extremely serious. We just got to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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00:15:27.940 So I wanted to ask you, David, just beyond the monitoring that Panorama reported that was going on,

00:15:34.640 you in fact saw such monitoring, uh, happening way before when you were in. Give us some timelines on

00:15:42.140 that, but also what kind of pressure was exerted by the U.S. in terms of achieving regime change?

00:15:50.360 Okay. Uh, and I'll do that, but I do want to return to what you just brought up about the application of

00:15:56.020 pressure to a Pope to force a resignation. There's that, but then there's also a document that Pope,

00:16:03.600 uh, Pope, uh, John Paul II issued called University Dominici Gregius. I'm sure you're, um, aware of this

00:16:11.420 one, but this one laid out the rules for a conclave very, very clearly. And for, and it's almost as if

00:16:19.000 Pope John Paul II had some concern about the upcoming conclave. Now the, the year of this, 1996,

00:16:27.100 six, but he was already seriously concerned about secrecy and eavesdropping in this document. If you

00:16:34.720 can, anybody can pull it up and read it. It's University Dominici Gregius. He, he mentions the

00:16:40.400 word secrecy 17 times. The, it, it mentions recording and audio recording and video recording

00:16:47.760 equipment and recording equipment multiple times, multiple paragraphs refer to the need for careful

00:16:54.160 and stringent checks to be made with the help of trustworthy individuals of proven technical

00:16:58.200 ability in order to assure that no audio visual equipment has been secretly installed multiple

00:17:03.420 times. That's mentioned at all levels. And then in the final paragraph, I guess, well, paragraph 76,

00:17:11.440 should the election take place in a way other than that prescribed in the present constitution,

00:17:16.040 or should the conditions laid out here not be observed? The election is for this very reason,

00:17:21.160 null and void, and it confers no right on the one elected. And so even the presence of eavesdropping

00:17:28.920 material hardware, you know, within the conclave would apparently, I mean, my reading of this would

00:17:35.900 invalidate it. Now, back to that article from the Panorama. Apparently, once it was widely reported that

00:17:44.660 this was going on, I have here Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi has played down the claim

00:17:51.180 saying, we don't know anything about this. In any case, we don't have any concerns about it. Now,

00:17:57.000 we know that NSA is going to deny it, but to hear that from the Vatican spokesman is very concerning

00:18:02.420 because it would have been more, uh, I don't know, appropriate of him to say something about this

00:18:08.900 is very, very serious. Like you just said, you know, if, if there are rumors that perhaps the,

00:18:14.860 there was some monitoring going on, it's very, very serious. Why didn't he point that out? Why

00:18:19.720 did he, he just says, Oh no, we're not concerned about it. We don't care either way, whatever.

00:18:23.660 Um, that's not quite right now back to what I was, some things that I was seeing in advance. Um,

00:18:29.060 the last three years that I was in the, in the army, I was working at the NATO headquarters in

00:18:33.880 Brussels. I was, um, you know, an advisor to the U S representative to the, uh, to NATO military

00:18:41.680 representative, but also, uh, the head it guy. And I was reading the cable traffic that came across

00:18:48.760 and it included state department cable traffic. And let's tell Liz about this is very strange.

00:18:53.180 All of a sudden, you know, going from just reading operational types of messages, having to do with

00:18:59.020 upcoming deployments and readiness levels of units and changes in the PC standards or whatever.

00:19:05.340 I have this message traffic having to do with the state department, state department issues,

00:19:09.940 relations with foreign countries, relations with the Vatican, even. And then from time to time,

00:19:14.280 there were church related things involved in the cable traffic. And they always put it under the,

00:19:20.200 the classification of confidential, at least so that, you know, I couldn't just take a copy of it and go

00:19:26.900 bring it back to the States and distribute it or whatever. I mean, I could never copy it and pass

00:19:32.500 it along to people without getting into trouble, but it was very clear that within our state department,

00:19:37.600 there were people who disagreed vehemently with the teachings of the church that were pushing for

00:19:42.480 a modernization. They, they saw Cardinal Ratzinger, our future Pope, and even Pope John Paul II is very

00:19:48.600 backwards and stuck in the past. And the word medieval was thrown around sometimes. And I would like to

00:19:55.900 appeal publicly to Secretary of State Rubio to go back, let, let me do it. I'll, I'll be glad to go

00:20:03.460 back through this stuff, just declassify it. Let's do a Freedom of Information Act type of a release of

00:20:09.280 some of this stuff so that American Catholics can see what the government officials at the highest

00:20:15.600 levels of the state department thought of us. Now that was the Clinton state department, but I'm sure,

00:20:21.080 you know, a lot of those people are professional. They're there for years and years. To me, it was,

00:20:24.500 it was a bit shocking. I went down the hall, there was a friend, I had a friend who was,

00:20:30.060 I knew to be a good Catholic and I showed it to him. I said, pull this up, take a look at that.

00:20:33.940 What do you think of that? And he read it and he just said something about, you know, those are just

00:20:39.580 a bunch of state department weenies was I think the word he used. But I, you know, I, to me, I couldn't

00:20:45.540 consider it so lightly as that just to say, oh, those are just state department people, because these are,

00:20:49.960 these are people who are interacting with people who form our foreign policy. And so after that very

00:20:56.320 disturbing series of revelations, uh, like I said, I left the army in 2001. I got as far away from

00:21:05.020 Washington DC as I could. And I, it wasn't until 2013 when I heard that Pope Benedict had resigned

00:21:13.960 that I started thinking, you know, this just doesn't look right. I mean, I knew that they,

00:21:17.940 I knew they didn't like him. I knew that there were people placed very high in our government who

00:21:22.160 didn't like him. And I think that's what we need to make the, the, you know, the focus of our,

00:21:27.880 our concern these days is what is the government's doing with our church? They have no business

00:21:33.140 monitoring our conclays. They have no business even concerning themselves with what our church teaches.

00:21:38.980 They can mind their own business. And that's what we need to push for. We need to push for

00:21:45.000 accountability for people in our government who have been involved in any such thing.

00:21:49.840 And then we also need to make it very, very clear that we're not putting up with any of this. And

00:21:53.780 Liz made a great point. People all over the world are counting on us to do this. People, that first

00:21:59.880 open letter went, went all over the world. People all over the world were so excited that maybe a group

00:22:05.940 of American Catholics were going to finally bring some accountability to our government. And it went to 0.78

00:22:10.380 nowhere. And I don't, we can't entirely blame Donald Trump for that. Again, he was trying to

00:22:16.720 play the nice guy. He, you know, but we have a different, there's a different man in the White

00:22:21.140 House now and he's, he's been threatened. And so he's ready to investigate. And so are we. So we're

00:22:26.060 going to revive it now.

00:22:26.940 He, he recognizes the deep state and hopefully through the words of the, Archbishop Pino is

00:22:33.900 very well, Archbishop Vigano, he recognizes the relationship between the deep church and

00:22:38.440 the deep state. Now it's interesting, over on Bannon's show, Liz, you said something very

00:22:44.660 apropos. And to your point, David, I just want to play devil's advocate for a second, because

00:22:49.160 the government of the Clintons, of the Obama-Biden government, and then the Biden government,

00:22:55.740 were all the same in that they were globalists, they were elitists, and they have a very set

00:23:04.280 agenda, which is the opposite of that, of the Catholic church. In fact, I think you put

00:23:10.960 it, Liz, that Ratzinger stood in the way of the whole globalist agenda. On all of those

00:23:16.720 very points where they are most concerned, when you have the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi,

00:23:23.580 denied Holy Communion by our Bishop, and then the Pope comes to her rescue, has her receiving Holy

00:23:30.740 Communion in papal mass. The same day, he releases a letter saying that the only thing needed to

00:23:35.540 receive Holy Communion is faith, and publicly criticizes that very Archbishop who denied her

00:23:42.260 Holy Communion three times in public. That's when you know you've got a tool in the chair of Peter,

00:23:47.040 rather than his predecessors, who are all about denying Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians.

00:23:54.600 And you have that on abortion, on euthanasia, on same-sex marriage, on the transgender issue,

00:24:02.220 on immigration, illegal immigration. It's basically like all the seven sacraments of the left

00:24:08.820 are being held up, held back by Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict, and that had to be done away with.

00:24:17.880 You know, similarly, the knife in the back to Ratzinger was when Nancy Pelosi, I think it was in

00:24:24.020 2008 or so, went to the Vatican, insisted on meeting Pope Benedict. And after the meeting,

00:24:32.080 although he usually only met with heads of state, and after the meeting, she came on and said,

00:24:36.600 oh, we had a lovely discussion about the poor, and about how wonderful the church is, and

00:24:43.100 uncharacteristically of Ratzinger and diplomacy, he issued a huge, loud, actually very, very powerful

00:24:54.160 statement saying that he disagrees with Pelosi about her position on abortion, that he told her so,

00:25:03.420 that abortion is the preeminent evil in the church, and that politicians who are Catholics should be 1.00

00:25:12.680 denied communion if they promote pro-abortion policies. And it was a total throwdown on Nancy

00:25:21.260 Pelosi that was public and vociferous, and they had nothing, nothing could say. Now, I too have read

00:25:30.920 additional cable traffic that was released under WikiLeaks with Julian Assange. And these cable and

00:25:41.260 diplomacy statements were coming through after Pope Benedict became Pope, and they were monitoring his

00:25:50.380 statements, his edicts, who he was meeting with. And it was very clear, like David said, it was very clear

00:25:58.220 that the State Department political hacks from the embassy in the Vatican were not pleased with the

00:26:05.920 strong positions that Benedict was taking on the issues of the global reset of the globalists of the new

00:26:16.520 world order. He immediately was backtracking and realizing that the climate change hoax had become

00:26:25.040 devoid of any scientific backing, devoid of any scientific backing, and was demanding that if we're going to talk

00:26:30.700 about climate change, we need to bring the science into the issue. Secondly, he talked about, and he wrote, as we all

00:26:40.040 will recall, to the U.S. bishops saying, do not, do not give communion to pro-abort Catholic politicians. Now, we know what

00:26:50.380 happened to that letter. That letter was deep-sixed by none other than Theodore McCarrick and never reached

00:26:58.240 maximum exposure. Also, what I find interesting in reading these cables, and which to me was a huge red flag, was that

00:27:08.280 Benedict ceased all negotiations with the Chinese Communist Party with respect to the appointment of bishops. And he did this,

00:27:20.300 and it's in the cable from the U.S. embassy to the State Department saying that Benedict no longer

00:27:26.840 trusted the CCP to keep their end of the bargain. And so what happened when Bergoglio was immediately

00:27:35.460 installed? Within a few months, he sent none other than McCarrick to China to restart the negotiations over

00:27:45.200 the appointment of bishops and how they are negotiated. Now we have a CCP cardinal. Now we

00:27:52.840 have bishops appointed by the CCP. And should I add, actually, that Francis did that after being warned

00:27:58.980 by Vigano that McCarrick was an abuser. Unreal. That's correct. All the hot button issues that were

00:28:08.420 the darling issues of the New World Order. In addition to, we know the Benedict to the name Benedict

00:28:14.460 after Saint Benedict, to re-Christianize Europe. That was his goal as Pope. And what happened was,

00:28:22.120 is that he started writing and talking to the EU and to prime ministers that he wanted God and the

00:28:31.380 Christian faith to become the center of Europe and to re-Christianize Europe. Now this was in direct 0.97

00:28:38.280 contravention to the planned 2015 Muslim migration into Europe that we now are seeing. The results of

00:28:47.380 huge surge in violence and disruption of society. So there are all these issues. And finally,

00:28:56.960 you know, the State Department and the American government knew that they would find nobody smarter

00:29:03.680 than Ratzinger to articulate both historically, theologically, politically, and under natural law,

00:29:12.620 these important issues and arguments. He was a huge obstacle to the rolling out of the global reset

00:29:23.880 and the New World Order. So it became very clear that he had to be removed because what the New World

00:29:31.900 Order didn't have and was looking for is a moral voice to support its efforts. So they had to get rid of

00:29:41.720 Benedict and replace him with somebody that they would trust and would carry out their agenda so that

00:29:48.920 they would have the backing of the Vatican, the vigor of Christ, to support their immoral agenda in

00:29:57.760 the vaccine, in climate change, in the Paris Treaty, in the UN Sustainable Development Goals,

00:30:04.780 all pro-abortion disastrous to civilization in undermining the Catholic teaching.

00:30:11.960 David, in your experience from having been on the inside track of this, what tactics does the

00:30:19.980 U.S. use to achieve regime change? And how could that then apply to the Vatican Pope Benedict?

00:30:28.740 So one of the things that we ask about, though, that is an excellent question. So one of the things

00:30:33.580 that we ask about in that 2017 letter, and we reiterate this, okay, international money transactions

00:30:40.380 with the Vatican were suspended during the last few days prior to the resignation of Pope Benedict.

00:30:46.580 Suspended. Why were any U.S. government agencies involved in this? And the next question is,

00:30:52.320 why were international money transactions resumed on February 12, 2013, the day after Benedict XVI

00:30:58.460 announced his resignation? Was this a pure coincidence? So a technique to force a resignation would be

00:31:05.900 something as simple as that. Just shut off no swift transactions for the Vatican until this Pope

00:31:12.280 agrees to step down. That is something that actually happened. They couldn't make their payroll. You

00:31:17.820 couldn't draw money to the ATMs. Nothing could go on in the Vatican regarding money until the day after

00:31:24.020 Pope Benedict announced his resignation. Now, I'm sorry, that's just not coincidence.

00:31:28.940 Pope Pius XI said men must look for the peace of Christ in the kingdom of Christ. And he urged that

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00:32:01.880 There were some other pressure points that people have speculated on. It was a central focus at the

00:32:09.220 beginning. During the resignation time, there was a lot of theories buzzing around, one of which was the

00:32:14.700 swift banking fiasco, because nobody could understand that. There were other thoughts about his brother,

00:32:23.260 Georg, being involved with some choir that had sexual abuse allegations, and that he could be tied to that

00:32:30.620 or pressured that way. Liz, some other thoughts there.

00:32:34.120 Yeah, you know, my hunch is, is that this was a full scale operation, probably led by the United States

00:32:42.580 government, but many other countries who were favorable to the globalist agenda, chimed in to do their part.

00:32:52.300 There was the Downpotson scandal, where his brother, Pope Benedict's brother, beloved brother, who frankly,

00:33:02.660 he talked to every day on the phone. So if the NSA was listening to conversations between the two brothers

00:33:09.140 on a regular basis, as many have said, then they would have known that there was a scandal breaking out

00:33:17.180 in Germany, where his brother was the choir director in a school where many boys were disclosing that

00:33:24.620 they had been sexually abused. That allegation was not made against his brother. However, there was

00:33:31.520 allegations of physical abuse on the young boys, the choir boys. Interesting enough, and you know, in reading

00:33:37.420 the media tea leaves, all of a sudden, that story just died on the vines. And it made me wonder whether

00:33:45.020 they were just using that as one of many pressure points. No, he loved nobody more than he loved his

00:33:51.500 brother, who is, you know, a beloved priest in Germany. They both became ordained priests at the same time.

00:33:59.020 And so they were using every single resource they could, in my opinion, in based on, you know, the, you know,

00:34:08.620 overwhelming evidence that he needed to be pressured into stepping down. No, interestingly, you know,

00:34:17.660 the theological arguments, the language he used in his resignation, there's been great work done by

00:34:24.140 and Barnhart and Ed Mazza, with respect to whether or not he actually resigned. But I think what we're

00:34:32.220 talking about are kind of the political machinations that were involved. Some of the other pressures at

00:34:37.940 the time, if we recall, that was the time also the Vatili scandal, where his butler was involved in

00:34:43.340 stealing papers from him, right off Benedict's desk. So that was all going on. And then there was,

00:34:48.580 which seems to be a regular occurrence, the sort of the Vatican Bank scandals at the same time. So there were

00:34:56.360 a lot of pressures at the time. But if we think about this, you also have internal pressures from the

00:35:06.480 heretic cardinals and bishops around him. And to me, that's the worst. So you have all this external pressure 1.00

00:35:14.080 that governments might have. Let's say there's a foreign power looking to do regime change. You know,

00:35:21.620 they're going to get financial pressure, all these sort of things happening to them externally. But then

00:35:29.840 internally, they're also going to have pressure from their own citizens, from their own, you know,

00:35:36.860 up and coming leaders who want to take over and so on. And you had that in the church as well. You have

00:35:41.980 massive globalists on the inside of the church, which Archbishop Vigano refers to as the deep

00:35:47.700 church. And we can name them because we know who the players are, McCarrick being probably

00:35:52.720 numero uno. But you have this whole cadre of them right now. All of them are installed,

00:35:58.500 especially if we look to the United States, you have the triumvirate of cardinals. When you have 0.72

00:36:03.220 Tobin, McElroy, and Cupich, talk about the globalists being on the inside, those who want a different

00:36:09.340 church who sort of have it at this point in terms of where this papacy has gone on all of those issues

00:36:17.160 that are so near and dear to the hearts of globalists. It's an incredible thing.

00:36:21.080 That's a great point, because as you'll recall, we learned that Cardinal Martini, who was a friend,

00:36:27.120 although a radical liberal, a friend of Benedict, visited him in the summer of 2012. And I think

00:36:34.420 according to Ganshwein, or no, I think actually it is Martini, he said, he told Benedict, now's the

00:36:43.080 time to resign. You should resign. You've lost control of the curia. You've lost control of the

00:36:49.760 church. So to your point, John Henry, the internal pressure was building on this, you know, frail,

00:36:57.360 kind gentleman of a Pope. And so I think, you know, all those factors, and then of course,

00:37:04.720 the coup de grace was, we'll turn off the bank. We'll just, in the midst of, you know, a lot of

00:37:11.320 tourism. And so that was kind of, I think, the final message.

00:37:17.300 Liz, do you have a theory on how, what the purpose of that meeting was between Pope Benedict and Joe

00:37:26.320 Biden, Vice President Biden? I mean, you were the one that wanted to insert that item into the open

00:37:31.500 letter in 2017. Do you have some thoughts on what was going on there?

00:37:36.140 My legal experience always, when there are secret agreements or secret meetings,

00:37:43.060 then there are nefarious things that are going on. We know that with all the secret agreements that

00:37:47.360 McCarrick was involved in. We still don't know about the secret agreement with the Chinese government

00:37:53.540 in the Vatican. The fact that it was not on either of their calendars, was there a message blocked?

00:38:02.360 I mean, these are questions we need to know, in which documents, both at the National Archives

00:38:07.280 and Records Administration, and Doge and the White House should have those records. What was the purpose?

00:38:15.620 What was the readout after the meeting? What happened? Did Joe Biden say, it's time, you know,

00:38:22.960 for your sake, for the sake of the church, it's time to step down? It's merely speculation. But the

00:38:29.240 secretive, clandestine nature of it is very curious to me.

00:38:34.040 The date you have on that is June 3rd, 2011. In advance, significantly in advance. But do you think

00:38:40.440 it's possible the purpose of that meeting then was, okay, it's time for you to step down?

00:38:44.520 Well, let's not forget, one of the closest people to Joe Biden was Theodore McCarrick. And Theodore

00:38:53.340 McCarrick was the global roving ambassador for the Obama administration and for Pope Francis, 0.99

00:39:02.040 as well as being a global sexual predator. So, you know, McCarrick would have been able to pull the 0.96

00:39:10.100 strings, orchestrate whatever. And, you know, I just, I thought that was very strange. And we know

00:39:16.920 that there was this constant building of pressure. And then in comes Joe Biden. I want to see a readout

00:39:23.320 of that meeting. And the American Catholics and the global Catholics have a right to know whether

00:39:29.540 the American government was involved in pressuring Benedict to step down. Was there a threat? We know

00:39:35.800 that Joe Biden wasn't shy about threatening the president of the Ukraine publicly and told about

00:39:42.840 how he was going to cut off aid if they didn't fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son.

00:39:49.960 So, you know, all, who knows? I mean, but it's critical to ask these questions. We deserve answers.

00:39:57.500 Okay. So one way that we can possibly get to the bottom of some of this would be to give whatever

00:40:04.800 kind of diplomatic immunity or immunity of whatever is necessary to Julian Assange and Edward Snowden to

00:40:12.540 be able to appear before Congress and answer some questions about what they know. Both of those two

00:40:18.140 individuals are mentioned in that article that that's the third link in the letter. Okay. That that

00:40:23.640 particular article from the Catholic Register. I think it mentions WikiLeaks, but also Edward Snowden,

00:40:29.880 some of what he has revealed has confirmed some of this. And so we believe, and I think we should

00:40:35.040 insist as Catholics, that that those two individuals should be given whatever kind of immunity 0.83

00:40:39.880 is necessary for them to appear before Congress and answer questions. The second thing I want to talk

00:40:45.920 about was regarding the strange relationship between the U.S. government and the Catholic Church is

00:40:51.320 what in the world is this thing about the FBI wanting to investigate Catholics attending the

00:40:58.440 traditional mass? I think that we need to get to the bottom of that. Hopefully, God willing, before too

00:41:05.380 long, Kash Patel will be the director of FBI maybe by the time this is released. We need to know what is

00:41:12.980 the extent of that operation. I happen to be convinced it's been going on for a long time, and it was

00:41:17.640 apparently not just not confined to the Richmond office either. It was much broader in scope than

00:41:25.040 that. And so we need to know, we have a right to know as Catholics, okay, why was this operation

00:41:31.320 carried out? And we also need to know the names and see the photos of the individuals involved. If

00:41:36.380 there were agents who actually were, quite frankly, dumb enough to agree to participate in this instead 0.97

00:41:42.760 of going to their boss and saying, no, that's inappropriate, I'm not doing that. That would 0.98

00:41:47.080 have been the right way to handle this. You're working for the FBI, they'll tell you, okay, go,

00:41:52.360 you know, sit in and listen on what's going on with this Latin mass over here. And the appropriate 1.00

00:41:57.880 response is no, that's no, no, no, no. That's not, you know, a group of people who are getting together

00:42:04.120 to practice their faith the way that Catholics have for the past 1500 years. That is not a threat to

00:42:10.480 anybody. That is a threat to nobody. And so we need to know the names of the individuals involved,

00:42:16.040 whatever agents were involved. We need to see their pictures so that, and this is not for

00:42:20.320 retribution. This is for charitable reasons. This is because why? Because now we can, we can pray for

00:42:25.720 those individuals who are fake Christians, who are pretended to be Christians. We can, and we can,

00:42:30.560 maybe they received Holy Communion sacrilegiously. Okay. These people are in need of our prayers. And so we

00:42:37.180 want to know who they are. And, but they also need to be fired. And so do whoever was involved in this

00:42:44.580 operation needs to be fired. And it just needs to be done with such a finality that there is never

00:42:49.920 any thought of doing such a thing ever again. David, Liz, final thoughts as we wrap up here.

00:42:55.040 I want to encourage people to go to lifepetitions.com, sign on to this letter yourself. This is to

00:43:01.280 encourage President Trump to release these records through his administration. We're going to get

00:43:06.680 this delivered to the president. I'm hoping that our good friend, Father Altman, will be able to

00:43:12.820 take that message to him directly. But this really needs to happen. And this time with a president who's

00:43:20.940 much more aware of the deep state and the deep church, and that these are warring factions, and that

00:43:28.160 this is not some, you know, oh, let's be conservative. I'm sure they'll work with us. No,

00:43:32.180 they're enemies. And, and he now knows that. So God willing, we have this clarity. And boy,

00:43:38.720 would it be a boon for the church today. We'd just be incredible. David, your final thoughts.

00:43:42.880 I just want to thank you for giving this effort, your attention and your support. And I want to

00:43:48.900 encourage people to, okay, try not to focus so much on the shortcomings of our clergy. That's,

00:43:56.380 that's out there, but let's try to focus on what has our government been up to. Catholics all over 1.00

00:44:01.900 the world are expecting us to reign in our government. Let's get control of it. We have

00:44:06.260 an opportunity now. So sign on to this effort. Amen to that. Liz, take us away. 0.99

00:44:11.360 Say, why is this letter to Trump so important? The deep state and deep church cabal is already

00:44:18.620 attacking the Trump administration's deportation policy. It is deep state and deep church cabal

00:44:26.280 has remained woefully silent over the Catholic Joe Biden's abortion policy. The deep state and deep

00:44:35.000 church cabal has already attacked J.D. Vance, our vice president and Catholic convert, Tom Homan,

00:44:42.760 our czar at the border and Catholic about building a wall to protect our country.

00:44:50.200 This has been only the first few weeks of this administration. They're not backing off since

00:44:55.400 the moment they pressured Benedict to step down. The last dying gasp of the global elites is that they

00:45:03.320 are relying heavily on the Francis church to undermine the MAGA movement, the populist movement around the

00:45:13.800 world, which are desperately trying to raise up Jesus Christ as our King and Savior. This is why this

00:45:22.520 letter is so important and must be addressed and acted on forthwith.

00:45:28.520 Amen to that. Thank you so much, David, Liz, for joining us. God bless you. And may this letter

00:45:34.520 not only reach President Trump, but may he act on it. And please, my friends, keep that in your prayers.

00:45:41.080 And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - February 20, 2025

Pope Benedict FORCED to Resign？ Vatican Deep-State ties

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