The John-Henry Westen Show - May 01, 2026


Pope Leo XIV’s Seminary Classmate Goes Nuclear： The Synodal Church is “Diabolical＂

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William Thomas talks about his new book, The Catholic Revival vs. the Synodal Church, and why Pope Francis is not alone in his failure to defend the deposit of the faith. He also talks about the schism between the SSPX and the Traditionalist wing of the Church.

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00:00:00.000 We're dealing with people who have no sense of what it is to be Catholic. 0.93
00:00:03.700 I mean, what kind of nonsense is this? 0.71
00:00:06.060 What kind of Catholicity is this that we can't call it out and say, wait a minute, 0.95
00:00:11.120 this is wrong in every respect.
00:00:14.120 This movement is a wrongheaded movement. 0.93
00:00:16.740 It's not a Catholic movement. 0.89
00:00:18.460 In fact, it's a diabolical movement. 0.99
00:00:22.720 Hey, my friends, I'm sure many of you will remember Professor William Thomas.
00:00:27.080 He is that classmate of Pope Leo XIV who dared to call out what was going on with Leo XIV and the Synodal Church.
00:00:36.260 He gave us a rounding criticism of Pope Francis and his legacy at the Rome Life Forum.
00:00:44.700 And he's with us again today to talk about his new book and also about what's going on in the Church today.
00:00:50.380 And as you know from our last interview, he's not shy about naming names and saying what needs to be said to defend the faith, to defend the deposit of the faith.
00:01:01.100 Professor William Thomas, thank you so much for being with us.
00:01:03.660 You're welcome. Thank you.
00:01:04.960 Let's begin, as you always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:01:07.780 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
00:01:12.060 Amen.
00:01:12.360 Amen.
00:01:12.820 Tell us, if you would, please, about your new book and what you've written about this time.
00:01:17.300 My book is called The Catholic Revival versus a Synodal Church.
00:01:22.480 The reason why I wrote it, when I read all the synodal documents, certain buzzwords kept
00:01:29.120 appearing, words like empowerment, radical hospitality, inclusion, diversity, listening,
00:01:38.220 discernment, participation, dialogue, subsidiarity, synodality, accompaniment.
00:01:47.840 And I thought to myself, none of these words are Catholic words.
00:01:52.000 None of these words are ecclesial words.
00:01:54.700 But these words are loaded with double and triple meanings.
00:01:59.140 The idea of inclusion, what does that mean?
00:02:03.980 It means absolutely nothing.
00:02:06.880 Who are they including?
00:02:08.960 Who are they excluding?
00:02:10.760 They're excluding people who like Latin. 0.97
00:02:13.740 They're excluding.
00:02:14.960 This is why we're having this schism coming up.
00:02:19.360 It's de facto schism. 0.89
00:02:20.900 It's de facto in Germany.
00:02:23.520 As we speak, it's de facto with the SSPX and the SSPX resistance.
00:02:29.620 So who are they?
00:02:30.520 Who has been included here?
00:02:32.440 It means inclusion of two groups.
00:02:35.280 women and lgbtqai plus which is a marxist inspired movement and that's what they mean
00:02:43.640 empowerment who are they empowering are they empowering me are they empowering you no they're
00:02:50.200 empowering women because they want women to take on the role of priesthood and this is a it's just
00:02:57.700 not a non-runner it can never be listed it can never be legitimate it can never be valid these
00:03:05.040 words of diversity. Again, a loaded word. What does it mean, a diverse church? It's one, it's
00:03:12.800 holy, it's Catholic, and it's apostolic. Where is diversity in that? This is the teaching that
00:03:20.320 they're trying to usurp. This is where it goes pear-shaped. This discernment, what does it mean?
00:03:26.880 Am I a Catholic or am I not? Or is it a sexual discernment? Am I something other than a man and
00:03:33.640 a woman, male or female, because that's all God has created. So there is no sense of discernment
00:03:41.700 here, you know, accompaniment. Who's going to accompany anybody? Nobody ever accompanied me
00:03:48.140 on my journey, so to speak. Whatever I learned, I learned with hard graph. I lived before the
00:03:55.020 computer age. I went to libraries. I studied. You know, I sat down and I studied. I asked the right
00:04:02.140 questions. I did the exams, oral exams, written exams, all kinds of examinations to be able.
00:04:10.720 So all of this language is a kind of semantic language. It means nothing. And, you know,
00:04:20.000 as I said, there are many things that are not mentioned. Conversion, repentance, sacrifice.
00:04:27.820 none of this stuff is mentioned uh mortal sin is not mentioned anywhere what they do mention
00:04:35.460 is sins against creation you know you chop down the tree you commit a sin you know sins against
00:04:42.400 marginalized groups well they're marginalizing the latin right people people who like sacred 0.77
00:04:49.340 language they're being marginalized and kicked out or insulted and called uh the disease of 0.95
00:04:56.780 nostalgia as Pope Francis called them they suffer from this disease they are rigorists they are
00:05:03.640 outcasts where is this you know the radical hospitality to bring them in you know in this 0.52
00:05:11.500 book I have one chapter it's called the liturgical war that has gone on for 70 years and unfortunately
00:05:20.080 it needs to be addressed
00:05:23.120 because what I
00:05:24.880 wrote an academic article
00:05:27.020 in New Liturgical Movement
00:05:28.740 some years ago, and it can be still
00:05:30.820 captured, of what
00:05:33.040 Annabelle Bognini, 1.00
00:05:35.040 who was one of the parity of the Second
00:05:37.000 Vatican Council, did
00:05:38.540 in bypassing the Congregation
00:05:40.720 for Rights and presenting
00:05:42.620 to Pope Paul VI
00:05:44.100 what he thought had been approved,
00:05:47.140 which was not. So what I'm
00:05:49.020 suggesting in this book the small book is we go back to what the father said not what bonini said
00:05:55.220 not what austin flannery who did the interpretations which was quite liberal
00:05:59.360 or walter abbott but let's go back on what and and bring all the liturgical people together
00:06:05.500 and debate the original documents what did the second vatican council really want bring in sspx
00:06:14.140 Bring in the liturgical experts that are there in San Anselmo, just down the road from here.
00:06:20.680 Bring them in and let's discuss it.
00:06:23.280 And for once and for all, decide that this liturgical war must end.
00:06:28.920 It is stunning hearing you say this about a man who you know well, you went to class with.
00:06:35.320 When you watched Pope Leo invite in James Martin, Sister Karam, the foremost promoters of LGBT inclusion, acceptance, whatever you want, in the church, when you watched him allow the massive thousand men and women strong LGBT pilgrimage right through the holy door into St. Peter's with the whole rainbow flag, rainbow shirt, kissing, holding hands.
00:07:05.320 same-sex couples holding hands. How did you square that in your head? You knew this man.
00:07:10.740 What did you make of that? Well, I saw them going in. I was there, and I was horrified,
00:07:16.940 and I went to Mario Gretsch, the cardinal responsible, and I said, I feel very unwell
00:07:23.360 at what I have seen. And I said, I don't like this synodal movement at all. It's devoid of a 0.99
00:07:30.540 profound Christology. It's devoid of a mariology. It's devoid of the sense of the sacred,
00:07:38.280 the sense of tradition, and so on and so forth. And I offered to rewrite it so it would be
00:07:46.600 a traditional Catholic document, and it was rejected. Now, this is the listening church.
00:07:53.720 This is the church of inclusion.
00:07:56.620 But I was excluded.
00:07:58.200 I wasn't listened to.
00:07:59.820 And so on several attempts, I went back and I went back again and said, look, this is wrongheaded.
00:08:06.760 The census fidelium of the people will not accept this because this is an erroneous movement.
00:08:13.320 This is invented completely by Pope Francis himself on the misinterpretation of Lumen Gentium and the participatio of the laity.
00:08:24.560 Laity can and have and always have been involved in the church.
00:08:29.980 I mean, they have financed the church.
00:08:32.340 It's the contributions that finance and build the churches.
00:08:35.560 It's the choir masters, the choirs that come together, the various liturgists, people like myself who speak with bishops on different aspects, you know, and so on.
00:08:51.500 So the laity have always been included.
00:08:55.360 I don't know what they mean by this inclusion as part of the synodal process.
00:09:00.020 It means something other than this marginalization.
00:09:05.160 I've worked in Peru for nine years.
00:09:07.660 I've also worked in Rwanda and in Kenya.
00:09:11.400 And these people are marginalized, but the missionaries are there.
00:09:15.920 They're everywhere.
00:09:16.900 There are missionaries even today.
00:09:18.960 They're both lay people and they are clergy, but they're out there.
00:09:22.760 There's nobody marginalized.
00:09:24.960 And even he went to outer Mongolia and found a fellow out there he created as cardinal.
00:09:31.120 He was only 39 years old, the youngest cardinal that we have.
00:09:36.540 So this whole synodal process then is promoted by Pope Francis Bergoglio advocating this
00:09:46.720 new style of secular church where nothing is going to work.
00:09:51.580 This inclusion, this listening, this diversity means exactly the opposite.
00:09:55.940 And then you have characters in there like Jean-Claude Hollerich, who is the general relator of this movement. He is a very pro-gay, pro-LGBT. He says that the catechism's words are hurtful, where it says homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered and calls for a fundamental revision of the doctrine supporting LGBT inclusion.
00:10:25.940 arguing that this, that, and the other, you see.
00:10:29.940 And then you have Mario Gretsch, 0.96
00:10:31.420 another one who is pro-gay
00:10:33.620 and a friend of LGBT community.
00:10:36.920 Again, he says that the Catechism's language
00:10:39.800 and homosexual is hurtful to homosexuals, you know.
00:10:43.980 And then you have Sister Natalie, 0.99
00:10:46.320 the Undersecretary of the Synod.
00:10:48.480 And she, you know, she's known for her work
00:10:50.800 on this synod process and fostering inclusion
00:10:54.240 and dialoguing with diverse groups within the Catholic Church.
00:10:58.980 You have Timothy Radcliffe, you have Cardinal Tucho Fernandes,
00:11:03.360 Cardinal Joseph Tobin, Archbishop Reno Fischichella,
00:11:07.620 James Martin, Sister Miriam Cimpeze.
00:11:14.240 They're all in this.
00:11:15.940 There is not one conservative member of the Synod of Bishops
00:11:21.240 that is conservative. 0.96
00:11:22.660 They're all pro-gay, and they're all pro-LGBT. 1.00
00:11:27.100 And that's where it goes, Perishites. 1.00
00:11:29.480 This is completely wrong.
00:11:31.280 We have to remember what Cardinal Braunmuller said,
00:11:34.420 that the German synodal way, which has gone completely off the wall,
00:11:39.260 it contradicts the Catholic faith.
00:11:41.680 With Christ, the ordination of women, and the diaconate to the priesthood,
00:11:45.700 as Hollerich said only a couple of weeks ago,
00:11:48.920 even he said if we could get the sub-diaconate.
00:11:52.120 What's he talking about?
00:11:53.860 Subdiaconate is gone since Second Vatican Council.
00:11:56.760 Is he talking about the traditional Latin right where we still have the subdiaconate?
00:12:01.400 Or does he want a new right?
00:12:04.360 You see what we're dealing with here.
00:12:07.040 We're dealing with people who have no sense of what it is to be Catholic,
00:12:10.720 who have no real sense of the tradition and sacredness of the church in particular.
00:12:16.420 You mentioned about the listening church, and I was just stunned the other day.
00:12:19.780 uh father david pagliarani had a an interview in which he expressed something that was truly
00:12:27.520 astounding part of the synodal thing is all about well we're listening we're listening
00:12:31.800 he actually said and i was stunned to hear it that pope francis was much more willing to dialogue to
00:12:40.500 listen than pope leo he begged for pope leo to hear him out before uh declaring them in schism
00:12:47.860 which has been threatened to do, to happen, and he said yet Pope Leo would not meet with us.
00:12:54.860 Pope Leo meets with Father James Martin, Sister Karam, anybody, everybody it seems,
00:13:02.500 except for traditionalists. I thought that was stunning, but who do you think's advising Leo
00:13:08.360 on this matter, on the matter of the Church, basically to go forward on dastardly stomping 0.96
00:13:15.180 of the traditional Latin Mass and, in fact, Latin Mass Catholics. 0.99
00:13:19.020 I think there's a whole group in there, a mindset of people who have been promoted by
00:13:26.060 Pope Francis and who have jumped on board his synodal process, which is not Catholic,
00:13:34.780 and they are beholding to him with a misplaced loyalty. They forget that the first loyalty is
00:13:43.300 to Christ Jesus and to the church and to Our Lady in particular and to St. Joseph and to the saints
00:13:51.460 and to the people of God. They have to have a loyalty rather than someone who really has brought
00:13:59.120 us down the wrong road. Pope Francis has done no favors to the Catholic Church. Even Evangelium
00:14:06.620 Gaudium that Pope Leo is reminding bishops and cardinals, I mean, to read, is all about these
00:14:14.240 marginalized. Who the Dickens are these marginalized people? This is what I would like to know because 0.84
00:14:20.780 I haven't the faintest idea because it's a double-meaning word. Marginalized are those
00:14:27.540 who want to be accepted into the Catholic Church, recognized for their perversity without any call
00:14:35.540 to repentance or conversion or even to prayer just to say you're marginalized you must come in
00:14:44.040 inclusion diversity the catholic church the doors have always been open for the conversion of
00:14:50.620 sinners they've always been open as a mechanism as a way to achieve the heights of holiness
00:14:57.160 this is what we're here for you know and we're here to become saints of god friends of god
00:15:05.220 not to bring a Marxist ideology into the church and change the whole dynamic of the parish
00:15:11.420 and start waving these flags around. What it seems to me now is that sodomy somehow has become a
00:15:18.220 virtue rather than a sin. I mean, what kind of nonsense is this? What kind of Catholicity is 0.69
00:15:26.080 this that we can't call it out and say, wait a minute, this is wrong in every respect. This
00:15:32.760 movement is a wrong-headed movement. It's not a Catholic movement. In fact, it's a diabolical 0.96
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00:16:11.360 One of the things I always meant to ask you, because I know you were in Peru as well,
00:16:17.100 and that's where Pope Leo was for so many years, and it was unearthed now a number of weeks ago.
00:16:23.900 we broke the story that there was a 1995 photo showing Pope Leo XIV participating in a Pachamama
00:16:31.980 ritual. Of course, he was Robert Prevost at the time. He was a priest at the time. But he's there,
00:16:37.200 he's kneeling on the ground, very much akin to what we saw with the Pachamama ritual in the
00:16:44.100 Vatican Gardens under Francis. But there was Leo doing it in 1995. When I was in Peru, I worked
00:16:53.100 Bishop Dermot Malloy. He was an Irish bishop. I taught in the seminary in the highest diocese
00:17:01.120 in the world, the diocese of Juan Cavalica, the place where the sun is worshipped. That's what
00:17:06.300 that means. And you have the Inca people who speak Quechua there. It was something that I came
00:17:15.400 across the Pachamama. I came across it on two occasions where people were involved in this
00:17:23.980 ritual, but Bishop Malloy did not allow it in his diocese. I found it in Juan Carama and I found it
00:17:32.120 in Juan Cayo, but I didn't find it in the diocese of Juan Cavalica. So it was forbidden because it
00:17:40.920 was paganism it was uh it was to reverence and to to adore mother earth you know and of course 0.96
00:17:48.880 there's a lot of uh demonic stuff that goes on with primitive people and that's why uh there's 0.84
00:17:56.020 a great call for missionary activity to show them that the world or the earth is not god 0.98
00:18:01.600 and the sun is not god uh the moon is not god but they they have names for these and they worship
00:18:09.180 them. As I said, Juan Cavalica means the place where the Son is worshipped. They don't worship
00:18:15.040 the Son there anymore, but they used to. We remember from stories in the past, you know,
00:18:20.980 Catholic saints, even saints in the Old Testament, would rather die than even offer a pinch of salt 0.80
00:18:26.320 to the gods, the false gods. How do we square that? How are you supposed to sort of figure out, 0.99
00:18:33.640 Wait, what is that, if not the same thing that the saints died refusing to do?
00:18:39.920 It was paganism. It is paganism.
00:18:42.560 It is not something that Catholics should be involved with. 0.96
00:18:47.040 As you know, Pope Bergoglio wanted an Amazonian rite, 0.98
00:18:51.720 which was an absurdity because it's purely paganism,
00:18:56.660 where all of these pagan deities are worshipped.
00:18:59.640 It's not about the proclamation of Christ as the unique savior of the world, the one who gave his life on the cross for the redemption of man. 0.99
00:19:09.140 And this is the sad reality that they have refocused on this type of nonsense, this type of stupidity, this type of very bad theology, formation in theology. 0.98
00:19:23.400 I'm only assuming that many of these people who are involved in this. 0.99
00:19:27.540 And sometimes, you know, you have a bit of witchcraft and whatever going on also in Africa.
00:19:33.300 I came across it in Rwanda. 0.97
00:19:36.560 But the people of Rwanda are very hard people to evangelize.
00:19:41.820 But nevertheless, there are great saints down there, missionaries from Poland that are evangelizing,
00:19:49.760 that are building the Catholic infrastructure, that are teaching in the schools and so on.
00:19:54.980 And slowly, step by step, that missionary activity continues.
00:20:01.440 One of the things that, at least in that neck of the woods, I think Our Lady of Kibeho has probably paved the way for some more of that evangelization.
00:20:11.380 I was in Kibeho. I did a lot of work down there, even recently in the last 12 months.
00:20:17.520 I was there for quite a while, but part of the prophetic dimension of this apparition was that if man does not convert, if he does not repent, then the world will fall into an abyss.
00:20:32.980 And I asked Natalie Musampaka, who is one of the seers living in Kibeho, what does Our Lady mean by this word abyss that we fall into?
00:20:45.380 And she said, unrelenting disasters, one after another.
00:20:52.100 And this is the result of sin.
00:20:54.620 Sin always produces wars.
00:20:57.340 There's no other way to describe it.
00:20:59.920 The culture of death is built on death itself.
00:21:03.640 And unless we have a profound conversion and become men and women of prayer,
00:21:09.520 we will fall into that abyss.
00:21:11.940 And this is one of those abysses.
00:21:13.740 if we fall into, we'll end up losing the faith.
00:21:17.120 So we can avoid it by saying, I won't have any act or part.
00:21:21.260 Parish priests could do that.
00:21:22.540 Bishops could do that.
00:21:24.280 They need, rather than to accept it, hook, line, and sinker
00:21:27.720 and have all these committees trying to impose something like synodality
00:21:33.140 on the traditional parish, you know.
00:21:36.060 And some of these bishops in America destroying altar rails
00:21:41.220 and refusing to give Holy Communion on them,
00:21:44.100 these men should not be bishops.
00:21:45.820 They've lost the plot.
00:21:47.540 They are not even Catholic.
00:21:48.780 You know, the expression of Catholic involves not only charity, but mercy.
00:21:55.080 If we were to boil down sacred scripture down to, let's say,
00:22:00.860 one passage of, we'd come to the Beatitudes.
00:22:04.640 And it's on the Beatitudes we'll be judged.
00:22:07.920 Do we have mercy?
00:22:09.200 Have we shown mercy?
00:22:10.300 have we, this is the mandatum of Jesus himself, you know, love your neighbor as yourself. Love
00:22:17.060 God and love your neighbor as yourself. So bishops who don't show this charity and this mercy on a
00:22:24.480 pastoral level should not be bishops. And by the grace of God, if I ever become Pope,
00:22:30.640 I'll get rid of them. One of the things that was buzzed about, especially at the time of the
00:22:36.220 Amazonian Synod, and every once in a while rears its head again, even within the synodality
00:22:43.380 discussion, is the idea of the formulation of a Mass without the words of consecration,
00:22:51.680 because that would be more accepted perhaps by Protestants. As a Vatican insider,
00:22:56.340 have you ever heard that yourself? Where do you think that lies?
00:23:00.900 I've heard such a notion, but then it would not constitute the holy sacrifice of the Mass, because if we understand what the holy sacrifice of the Mass is, Christ again is offering himself to the Eternal Father in an unbloody manner for the sins of today, for the sins of those who attend the Mass.
00:23:23.300 and he offers his body and blood in order to satisfy the desires of the soul
00:23:31.040 to allow them to grow in the holiness of life.
00:23:34.700 He gives of himself constantly.
00:23:37.560 I was trying to calculate how many masses have been said since the time of the apostles,
00:23:43.040 given the fact that we have today something in the region of 650,000 masses being said every day.
00:23:49.740 And my calculation was 100 billion masses, which are 100 billion sacrifices of Christ himself to the Eternal Father.
00:24:00.580 And he extracts from divine justice mercy.
00:24:04.200 And that's how the world has continued to exist, through divine mercy.
00:24:09.300 For without the divine mercy, the world wouldn't be here.
00:24:12.360 That gives a whole new take on the severity of what happened with the shutdown of the masses during COVID, because you cut out, I would say, a majority of the masses around the world, and that would have a very serious effect with that kind of calculation.
00:24:29.420 Absolutely. It was devastating that bishops would allow themselves to be coerced into closing
00:24:36.600 churches. It was a disgrace. It was shameful. They ought to apologize to their flocks for so doing
00:24:44.780 with the promise that they will never do it again. While the churches were closed,
00:24:49.720 the supermarkets were opened, the restaurants were opened, people were traveling by plane
00:24:55.380 here and there there was no restrictions whatsoever except that the church was closed
00:25:01.620 and I thought this was an absolute disgrace and outrage I wrote to many bishops and I said if you
00:25:08.280 need permission to open your church I will give you permission and let the authorities come after me
00:25:14.840 but they were so terrified and I was hoping that some priests would be arrested even or imprisoned
00:25:23.000 because then we would really see what this was about.
00:25:27.380 But they didn't take the chance, and they should have.
00:25:30.460 But many good priests continued to say Mass.
00:25:33.520 If you were able to give your former classmate some advice,
00:25:38.060 what would that be?
00:25:39.060 I would ask him to listen to what I have to say
00:25:41.600 and to focus and orientate the papacy towards the good of the Church,
00:25:47.800 to the inclusion, the proper meaning of this word,
00:25:53.000 of the Latin rite, the traditional rite, the sense of the sacred, the sense of holiness,
00:25:59.600 the call to conversion, to prayer.
00:26:01.940 In my little book here, I use the 20 appeals of Our Lady of Fatima
00:26:07.000 as part of the roadmap towards the Catholic revival.
00:26:13.440 And the call to believe in God, which is fundamental, the call to adore God,
00:26:18.620 the call to prayer, to sacrifice, to conversion, to penance, to reparation, to love one's neighbor,
00:26:26.560 to reflect on eternal life. All of these are very much part and parcel of what the Pope should be
00:26:34.460 explaining to people as defender of the faith, not the changer of the faith, not to change it
00:26:41.720 from what it is, what it has been established over 2000 years, what has produced the great
00:26:47.980 saints of the past, into something other, a synodal church where doctrine is decided by
00:26:54.920 voting, where doctrine is changed because it's hurtful. Who's it hurtful to? If the sin is a
00:27:01.900 mortal sin and I am responsible, I go to confession and ask forgiveness and I make
00:27:08.080 reparation. It doesn't hurt me. The truth should not hurt. The truth should be told in charity.
00:27:15.900 We must be charitable at all times, and we must also show mercy.
00:27:21.700 But this idea of changing doctrine because it's, as Cardinal Hollerick says,
00:27:26.940 we need to re-evaluate it because it's something archaic of the past and change.
00:27:32.480 No, we don't have to change anything.
00:27:34.960 I certainly am not going to change, and if I'm the only one in the world
00:27:38.900 that will not accept this synagogical church,
00:27:42.600 I will stick to my own writing
00:27:44.740 on Catholic revivalism. 0.94
00:27:46.620 That's what I'm doing. Praise God.
00:27:48.360 I pray that the Pope would listen to you because you're also
00:27:50.720 one of the few people who knows
00:27:52.600 to tell him who
00:27:54.580 exactly is the problem.
00:27:57.000 Even willing to say that
00:27:58.560 those names out loud
00:28:00.120 though they are in high positions in the Vatican.
00:28:03.260 God bless you, Professor. Thank you so much
00:28:04.780 for joining us. You're welcome.
00:28:06.560 God bless you. And God bless all of you.
00:28:09.020 And we'll see you next time.
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