The John-Henry Westen Show - Pope Leo’s Evil Agenda EXPOSED： Mother Miriam Reveals ERRORS of Pope Leo

00:00:00.000 It seems that this Pope, at the expense of the faith, is doing anything he can for unity.

00:00:06.180 It's sickening that Jesus didn't come to put us together. He came to put us together in truth.

00:00:13.720 Hello, my dear friends. Welcome to the John Henry Weston Show. I have a guest for you today who,

00:00:18.740 well, you all know her and love her. Mother Miriam is the host of her own show, Mother Miriam Live,

00:00:25.460 and she's all known and loved you because her trajectory was amazing. Remember, she was

00:00:31.700 born into the Jewish faith and then became an evangelical and then became a Catholic and then

00:00:38.820 became a Catholic nun, starting her own order. It's so incredible because of her witness. Her

00:00:43.620 witness is basically to be Christ the world, and they do that in her order, particularly by wearing

00:00:50.400 the habit, the full habit, which speaks to Christ. And she's got so many beautiful stories,

00:00:57.860 which we've already talked about on previous shows. I want to talk to her today about Pope Leo,

00:01:03.780 what's going on in the Vatican, about the end times. You're going to want to stay tuned for this one.

00:01:08.120 Mother Miriam, so good to be with you.

00:01:09.680 Oh, John Henry, it's an honor and a privilege and a great happiness for me always.

00:01:14.480 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross. Lead us, please, if you would.

00:01:17.340 Amen. So, Mother, I've watched a few of your later episodes, and I thought, wow, you are right on the

00:01:28.620 pulse of what's going on. And the most striking thing is unafraid. And I'm sorry to say it that way,

00:01:34.660 but I look at the church today with so many of the prelates of the religious who have voices,

00:01:42.620 but they don't speak. And I'm going to start with a very hard thing, because they don't speak about

00:01:48.520 what's going on with Pope Leo. And that's stunning to me, more even so than Pope Leo himself. The

00:01:57.520 silence is just unbelievable.

00:02:00.000 It's tragic. It's absolutely tragic. And it was, I don't know, the life of Edmund Burke,

00:02:06.360 but it was he who said, the only thing needed for evil to flourish is for good men to remain

00:02:12.260 silent. And for bishops, priests, bishops, cardinals, who are good, who love the church,

00:02:19.860 to remain silent is, to me, an absolute tragedy. If they are afraid that they'll be, quote, unquote,

00:02:28.360 canceled, so what? The sheep need the truth. And I would beg, John Henry, every canceled priest,

00:02:37.340 prelate of any kind, I would beg them, if they're canceled, not to gather in conferences all over

00:02:43.560 the place, walk the streets, knock on doors. They're priests after the order of Melchizedek, 0.98

00:02:50.060 forever. Knock on doors, go two by two, and preach the gospel. And as Pope Benedict said,

00:02:58.180 in our generation, the church will probably go underground, and little by little, it's doing

00:03:03.760 that. So I beg priests, bishops, everyone to do that. And don't stop celebrating the mass. Do it

00:03:12.020 in homes. Do it wherever you need to. You are a priest, and nobody can stop you from that.

00:03:17.000 It is very challenging, because they're faced with obedience, on the one hand, which they're told,

00:03:22.280 and then this, what do you do? I'm being told to do wrong things, even sinful things.

00:03:30.640 How are you supposed to make sense of that as a priest, even as a bishop?

00:03:34.900 Well, I would say the same way children ought to be obedient to parents in everything but sin.

00:03:41.060 And the same thing with priests and prelates. You don't obey sin. You don't obey what is against

00:03:47.280 the faith that you've been ordained and vowed to preach. You can't obey that. Peter said,

00:03:54.440 you tell me if I obey God or men. No. If it's legitimate, even if it's disappointing,

00:04:00.620 that's one thing. But to be canceled or put out because you speak the truth, that is an insanity

00:04:09.580 and a sin. And I would not let that prelate, that bishop, I would not give him, what do I say,

00:04:20.700 the tool to destroy the church by my obedience. We've seen probably the same recklessness that

00:04:29.800 we saw under Francis from Leo. And some would say even more. Well, particularly because he's an

00:04:34.340 American. He speaks English. He speaks with a smile, so we think it's not so bad.

00:04:39.580 The tragedy to hear in our own language, in a nuance that we all understand, because he's

00:04:48.480 American, on abortion, that if you're not against the death penalty, then you're not really pro-life.

00:04:54.960 That cut in a way that very, I can understand some Italian from Francis, but hearing it in your

00:05:03.820 own tongue, in your own nuance, in everything, I don't know, that hit real hard. What about for you,

00:05:10.400 Murray? A knife through the heart. How, after 2,000 years, with the dogma, the faith, with the 0.84

00:05:17.260 catechisms, the Trent, our current catechism, everything, to hear a pope of all people come out

00:05:25.320 and say, this is not true, the death penalty. It's astounding. And I ache, John Henry, because

00:05:37.080 millions of Catholics don't know their faith, and they believe it. They don't know what to believe

00:05:43.180 because they're not catechized. I came into the church in 95 and found at that time three generations

00:05:48.600 lost to the faith. So what Pope Leo now says, it's just a knife to my heart, but I live for the

00:05:55.480 salvation of souls. And I get angry and just physically sick at heart when I hear a pope talk

00:06:04.480 against the faith and appoint bishops who are against the faith. It just grieves me no end.

00:06:10.620 That's quite something, because there is something, for instance, that most won't say. A lot of,

00:06:17.900 even good bishops will say, well, it can be interpreted in a way that's not really against

00:06:25.420 the faith. It's, it's, you know. No. Truth is truth. You know, I am the way, the truth, and the

00:06:34.180 life, said our Lord. Well, we have to understand the context and how he said it and when he said it

00:06:39.600 and why he said it and what he meant. And yeah, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, we don't interpret it.

00:06:46.060 He said what he said. And you said, John Henry, he's an American. We know how to take what he says.

00:06:52.700 No, no, no, no. It's just absolutely tragic. And I think to myself, does he really not believe some

00:07:01.180 of the things he says? Or does he really believe some of the things he says? He's been the superior

00:07:07.420 of the Augustinians. I don't know if he has been taken over by Satan. It's not so obvious. That's

00:07:17.340 what the tragedy is. It's subtle. I don't know. I don't know what he believes and what he does or who

00:07:23.260 he's trying to please. It's not good. I see it as evil. I'm going to use that strong word. I see it

00:07:32.180 as evil. It is very confusing for the faithful because a lot of the issues are so, they're

00:07:39.520 convoluted. So, for instance, the LGBT, and this is a big one for the whole world right now, but

00:07:47.020 when he welcomed, you know, James Martin S.J. into the Vatican, just like Francis had, we thought it

00:07:54.640 sort of ended and then it happened. And then the LGBT pilgrimage through the Holy Door and all of 1.00

00:08:01.600 that, which was... And the first bishop he appointed in support of LGBT. Indeed. Are you referring to the

00:08:09.060 American bishop? No. Was it Switzerland? Oh, in St. Gallen, yes. That's the other thing. That bishop

00:08:16.040 was in favor of both the LGBT nonsense, but also women's ordination. Women's ordination, which 0.77

00:08:21.560 cannot happen. It cannot happen. I mean, and the worst, for me, the worst part is these issues are

00:08:28.400 very confusing for Catholics. Like, we've already had 13 years of todos, todos, todos, and who am I to

00:08:36.200 judge? And you've had sincere, believing Catholics, now completely confused. Thinking, A, the church's 0.99

00:08:44.340 teaching can change because, oh, at one time we used to do this, and now we don't. And, you know,

00:08:48.180 these little mothers who are like, oh, I'm so glad I used to pray for my son who's gay, and now it's

00:08:53.040 all fine. It's mind-blowing. And yet, it's still happening, and it's happening in a vacuum of silence

00:09:02.100 from all the bishops and cardinals of the world, just about.

00:09:06.120 Someone once said to the cardinals, do you know why you wear red? Do you know why your sash is red?

00:09:11.960 I tell you, you say it's mind-boggling, but it affects me physically. It makes me ill.

00:09:21.020 Jesus came to the salvation of the world, and it seems that Pope Leo, who looks like a wonderful man,

00:09:30.680 who speaks like a lovely man, who smiles beautifully. I'm just going to say this. As upset as I was with

00:09:40.760 Pope Francis, I'm more upset with Pope Leo because, to me, the teaching against the faith, what he allows

00:09:51.960 in the world, what he's trying to do now is, I don't know if I can say it's subtle, but I think it's evil.

00:10:02.520 He wants, it seems, I can't know this, to get all the faiths together. He said, I'm not going to cancel

00:10:11.100 the Latin Mass, but there needs to be restrictions. There needs to be changed. No, there doesn't have to

00:10:18.860 there don't need to be any changes in the Latin Mass. There need to be changes, not canceling it, but we

00:10:24.580 have to get new norms. We have to make it so that everybody is together. So there's unity. The word

00:10:32.620 unity, John Henry, I just equate with the devil at the moment. Jesus prayed, John 17, that we would be

00:10:42.220 one as he and the Father are one. But in the context of his being truth, there's no unity

00:10:49.500 without truth. There's the devil's unity, that we could believe whatever we want, doesn't matter if

00:10:55.640 it's true or not, because we're together. And it seems that this Pope, at the expense of the faith,

00:11:03.060 at the expense of the faithful, is doing anything he can, Muslims, everybody, for unity. It's sickening 0.90

00:11:10.940 that Jesus didn't come to put us together. He came to put us together in truth. And apart from

00:11:17.380 truth, there can be no unity whatsoever. So here's the thing that really strikes people. I think

00:11:23.380 it's more so of Leo than anybody else, but it's also true of prelates and even priests who are

00:11:30.280 unfaithful in some ways. But then they're still saying Mass. They're still talking about Jesus in

00:11:37.540 very positive ways. They're praying the rosary. They're doing... That disconnect, it really does.

00:11:44.700 It kind of fries your mind as a faithful. And I appreciate what you said, Mother, because for you,

00:11:50.100 you feel it. I think for the clergy and for religious who have it as their vocation that it

00:11:56.420 is the faith and salvation of souls, I get it. That pierces you in a way that is not the same for the

00:12:02.700 faithful. It's beyond in a way. But that watching the very pious, devout-looking celebration of the

00:12:11.900 Mass, of the rosary, of even talking well about things, and then juxtaposed against the other,

00:12:18.460 it rattles your head. You don't even know what's up and down anymore.

00:12:23.040 You wonder if what their faith is in celebrating Mass and in teaching faith. You wonder if they're

00:12:31.940 saying what they once believed is true or they know is true, but they have another agenda, whether

00:12:38.760 it's self-protection or... I don't know. To be popular, I don't know what it is, but it's just

00:12:46.320 tragic. And I would tend to believe that the good bishops and good priests who are not speaking out,

00:12:58.480 I would be on the side of their being true, and they're really believing what they're saying

00:13:05.420 and believing the faith. They just don't want to be singled out. I remember one archbishop,

00:13:11.700 he was so good, and I was so glad that he was in the position he was. I'm not glad anymore because

00:13:19.480 he's compromised the faith left and right. But I remember at the time, because he was so orthodox,

00:13:26.740 he said to some people close to him, I'm a marked man. And then he began to compromise.

00:13:33.940 Well, so what? Jesus was a marked man, and you're a priest. You're an altus Christus.

00:13:41.700 I'm marked. I've been put out of a couple of dioceses, and I don't know where I'm going to

00:13:46.880 be in this one. No, no. Well, blessed be God. Why are we marked? Because we love God. We love

00:13:55.800 his son and the Holy Spirit and his blessed mother. And we feel privileged. That's what I say so often,

00:14:07.040 John Henry. People, why doesn't that one believe? Why doesn't that one believe? I don't know.

00:14:12.680 I don't know why I believe. I wasn't searching. I'm no better. I'm no holier. I'm worse.

00:14:18.360 It's God's grace. Well, but they believe. Why don't they live their faith? I can't answer that

00:14:23.640 either. Why do I? Because of the grace of God. Well, don't they have the grace of God? Well,

00:14:28.820 you think, but my favorite prayer of the Mass says that our thanksgiving alone, our ability to thank

00:14:38.860 you is by your grace. So do other people have that grace? I would think they do. Why don't they

00:14:47.140 respond? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe the fact that I grew up fighting in Brooklyn helps. I don't

00:14:54.140 know. But I cannot excuse in my heart. I cannot excuse. I will never say who am I to judge because

00:15:03.980 we are to judge. We cannot judge motives, but we must, must, and our Lord says so, we must judge

00:15:12.440 actions or lack of actions. We don't know the heart, but we can judge what is done and what is not done.

00:15:20.260 We can judge. We can't, again, know the utter core of it. And I've thought of a really wonderful

00:15:28.580 archbishop who I know, who is faithful, but once in a while he gives a little peep. Mostly he's silent.

00:15:39.160 And I think maybe if I were a bishop or an archbishop, would I speak out? I can't imagine not

00:15:47.320 speaking out. But if an archbishop knows that he speaks out and he'll be removed, such as our dear

00:15:54.740 Bishop Strickland was, then he cannot lead his sheep to heaven. Then he cannot care for them. That's a

00:16:01.200 huge price. It's a huge price. So maybe he'd say, I'd rather keep quiet and be here and teach my flock

00:16:09.960 to the truth, then make waves. I don't know. I don't know. But he, for any priest, any bishop, any prelate, any

00:16:20.860 cardinal who does not speak the truth, I grieve for them and for their flock. I do. 1.00

00:16:30.380 I think that's a very powerful argument, that they would be stripped of their diocese. They would

00:16:37.940 leave their flock to other wolves, perhaps. The difficulty with that is, though, is that, you know, you

00:16:46.500 compromise a little here and there and it keeps going, as you mentioned in the case of the other

00:16:50.820 archbishop that you knew. It is. It's a challenging thing. One of the arguments that I've heard as well

00:16:57.480 is that, you know, for the sake of getting some more freedom for the Latin Mass, there's a possibility

00:17:03.700 of doing that with being a little more quiet. And I know you love the Latin Mass, Mother. You're

00:17:08.680 persecuted because you want the Latin Mass. But tell us about that, the motivation that comes from

00:17:14.760 the possibility of gaining more access or opening access to the Latin Mass as a motivation for being

00:17:21.520 silent. No, no. When, you know, if it's one priest in one parish that's speaking Arab 0.86

00:17:30.680 or compromise or is silent, so be it. But the Pope and Cardinals, Cardinal Fernandez,

00:17:41.740 where it affects millions and millions of sheep and it's let go, to what? Preserve the Latin Mass? 0.99

00:17:55.180 Yes, absolutely not. The Mass doesn't belong to us. It's God's Mass. The Church doesn't belong to us.

00:18:03.440 It's the Church against will, which our Lord said the gates of hell won't prevail. 0.76

00:18:10.240 He's building his Church. We are to speak the truth and leave the consequences to God's

00:18:18.240 providence and his will. As I mentioned before, Pope Benedict said that in our generation,

00:18:24.000 the Church will go underground. It's beginning to do that.

00:18:29.880 And so what? So the first time, John Henry, I ever experienced a Latin Mass was in the kitchen of 0.99

00:18:36.860 somebody's home in New Jersey. I didn't know anything. It was a retired priest who had permission

00:18:42.800 to celebrate Mass in the house. And I went through that standing in the kitchen and the Mass finished.

00:18:49.800 And it wasn't my home. I didn't know anything, but I didn't care. I went upstairs, found a bedroom,

00:18:55.080 closed the door, and I sobbed. I said, we've been robbed. What is this? We've been robbed.

00:19:00.500 And I didn't know it. But even going into the Novus Ordo with a fabulous priest,

00:19:05.960 Monsignor, who led me into the Church. But I said, I'm in the Catholic Church now. I'm in the fullness

00:19:11.620 of faith. Where's the reverence? What's wrong here? And the problem with that, the reason I felt that

00:19:17.920 is because a year before I entered the Church, I came across and ordered, therefore, a CD. No,

00:19:28.400 there wasn't CDs. It was a cassette by Bishop Fulton Sheen, who I didn't know. It was from Keep Faith,

00:19:36.400 which I didn't know. And it was Bishop Sheen's narrating of a 1940 Easter vigil.

00:19:46.040 And in fact, if anybody wants to find it, you can look it up on the web, 1940 Catholic Mass.

00:19:53.360 You'll see it on YouTube, 1940 Catholic. I listened to that. I could not believe the beauty

00:20:02.020 that I heard. I could not believe it. And I went to sleep every night for a year with that tape.

00:20:12.480 And I wasn't going to enter the Catholic Church yet. I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do that.

00:20:17.920 But I listened to that and the beauty of it, the reverence. And then I came into the Church

00:20:24.700 and it was Novus Ordo. And I said, what happened? Where is what I listened to for a year? Where is

00:20:31.500 it? Oh, my. And I just figured, well, that's old fashioned and this is new. Until I found the

00:20:39.540 Latin Mass. And it's just so beautiful. Even in a kitchen. Standing in the kitchen. No kneelers,

00:20:44.960 no room to kneel. It was packed. Standing in the kitchen on a kitchen, Middle Ireland. He celebrated 0.99

00:20:53.360 the Mass. It was just beautiful. I got an email from someone on Mother Miriam Live the other day.

00:20:59.640 And she said, I've been in the Novus Ordo. I returned to the church. But I recently found

00:21:04.640 the Latin Mass. That's all she said. I've been going to Latin Mass now. Not long. And she said,

00:21:12.120 as a result, I'm dressing modestly. I've gotten rid of all this ridiculous music. I this, I that. I 0.93

00:21:21.620 changed. My family is against me now because they can't relate anymore. And my sister's homosexual. 1.00

00:21:29.340 And my parents are against me because I won't go to her wedding. Just from going to the Latin Mass. 1.00

00:21:36.480 The reverence, the beauty. You learn who God is.

00:21:39.500 We have a Novus Ordo Mass that's one of the unicorn masses, as they call it here. And every once a week, 1.00

00:21:46.280 we can get to a traditional Latin Mass a ways away. But here's the thing. There's so many people who

00:21:53.680 don't understand this thing. And okay, here's a weird one for you. Traditional Latin Mass can have or

00:22:06.120 cannot have hymns that are in the vernacular. So I noticed some of the most famous traditional

00:22:14.380 hymns that we have that are in English or in the vernacular are written in the 1600s.

00:22:22.520 When there's only Latin Mass, how are they singing vernacular hymns in the Mass? And they are Mass

00:22:28.060 hymns. What is that? Do you know? Do I know what it is? I'm ecstatic. I'm just ecstatic.

00:22:34.160 You know, when I think, I just say this because I think it's so, and I think he showed me,

00:22:40.080 St. Francis de Sales is my spiritual director from heaven. That's the story. I don't know if I ever

00:22:44.580 told you that. No. Beautiful. You should tell me that. Answer the question, then tell me that.

00:22:49.900 He didn't go to the Novus Ordo. All these saints, they didn't go. Novus Ordo didn't exist.

00:22:57.860 That didn't exist. So to use old hymns. In my 1962 FSSP parish, many of the hymns are in English.

00:23:09.600 When they sing, when they have a high mass, they also sing in English. Oh, so no, I didn't even

00:23:14.320 knew about whether they were or weren't. I didn't know. We normally go to a low mass and there's

00:23:20.620 no music. But when we go to the high mass, especially if there's a quote unquote closing

00:23:27.800 song, closing hymn, it's normally in English, not always. So I don't know what's not.

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00:24:07.360 One more question before we get to your story, because we really want that story.

00:24:10.320 If it's not exclusively Latin, because I understand that sometimes in a Latin mass,

00:24:15.060 the readings can be given in English and the gospel and so on. What is it? I'm still,

00:24:22.300 I think there's a lot of people still saying, okay, what is this? Because these people who do that,

00:24:27.240 and everybody sees it, that study on Latin mass versus Nova Sordo, apart from everything

00:24:32.060 else, everybody sees it. Basically, one side is like 98% believing of Catholicism versus the other

00:24:38.800 side in the single digits. That scares the crump out of everybody. But everybody's trying to understand

00:24:44.120 what is it? And the question then comes, can we do a Nova Sordo that is just reverent enough?

00:24:50.920 Or is it something actually sort of like ontologically different?

00:24:54.500 Absolutely different. Absolutely different. Because with Pope Paul VI, all the Latin was kept.

00:25:02.320 It was ad orientum. The prayers were all in Latin, no English at all. And there are those who celebrate

00:25:11.460 today, you know, the Novus Ordo, and keep ad orientum, lest the bishops have forbidden them. Shame on

00:25:19.400 those bishops. And all the hymns are in Latin. And we had here a priest come, sent a proper letter to

00:25:31.280 the chancery, the bishop and all that, to celebrate the first vows of one of our sisters. And he did

00:25:41.080 everything. He wasn't very confident in the Latin mass. He could do it, he said, but it'll take me a

00:25:46.180 little time. But he did the Novus Ordo completely, all the readings, everything, completely in Latin.

00:25:55.540 Latin is the language of the mass. But even with all the language in Latin, and the hymns in Latin,

00:26:03.240 and the prayers in Latin, the difference, I don't, I don't have to ask Dr. Kwaschenevsky about this,

00:26:10.820 the difference between the Novus Ordo and the Latin mass. The Novus Ordo is simply, even when it's done

00:26:19.000 ad orientum, it just seems geared to the people. And the Latin mass, I had another email the other

00:26:27.040 day on the program. I finally went to the Latin mass because you talk so much about it. And I didn't

00:26:33.500 understand what was going on. So why? Why should I be there? And number one, you can understand. If

00:26:41.000 you know the mass, the Novus Ordo, you can follow it in Latin to a great degree. There are booklets

00:26:46.440 in almost every Latin mass church, those red covered booklets that have

00:26:52.400 Latin and English. So you could follow that if you wish. But it's not a matter of your hearing

00:27:00.600 everything. It's the matter of your being present. I don't, I wonder, John Henry, I didn't think of

00:27:09.680 this before, but there were a lot of people at Calvary, a lot. And I wouldn't say that most of

00:27:17.960 them heard what Jesus said, his seven last words on the cross. There was no microphone and tons of

00:27:26.180 people. How could they have heard him? He didn't shout. He wasn't announcing it. He just spoke to

00:27:31.060 his father. We are privileged to be there when an altar Christus is saying the mass, which will bring

00:27:43.100 our Lord down to earth, that he might be represented on that altar as he was 2,000 years ago, that we,

00:27:55.580 who could not be at Calvary 2,000 years ago, can be at Calvary represented at every mass.

00:28:04.780 It's astonishing. It's overwhelming. We don't need to sing. We don't need to shake hands. We don't do it.

00:28:10.820 Just be focused on what's doing. You don't have to hear the priest. But if you wish to, get a book,

00:28:16.980 get a translation, get a book that really takes you through the mass. We don't go to church for

00:28:22.660 fellowship. The book that had the most to do with my coming into the church was The Spirit of

00:28:29.060 Catholicism by Carl Adam, written about the 13th century prior to the Reformation,

00:28:39.940 where the church stopped at noon with the Angelus bells and went on its knees. The painting you have,

00:28:51.340 the painting we have of that couple in the field and their home in the background and they have a

00:28:56.460 little packed lunch. It's the Angelus when the angel of the Lord appeared unto Mary. And we say that

00:29:05.480 six, 12 and six, three times a day because the church stopped. And I've always pictured,

00:29:13.780 I wasn't Catholic when I read that. And I said, you've got to be kidding. Can you picture the world

00:29:18.560 stopping at Nordstrom's in restaurants and the streets in businesses at noon with the bells going

00:29:26.880 on their knees at the word became flesh? That was incredible. And in fact, when I came to the Catholic

00:29:32.840 church and began this community, which I pray God began it, I had us walk in the street with Bell

00:29:41.160 and we rang it at noon and went on our knees and we had people come to us. One man came in tears. He

00:29:48.280 said, oh, sisters, I did that as a little boy. And he saw it's just so gorgeous. So, and then on Sundays,

00:29:58.960 the church went to church. The body of Christ went to church, not to see one another, not to be social,

00:30:10.320 to worship Christ. And most of them didn't understand what was being said. 13th century,

00:30:18.800 the printing press wasn't around. They said only 5% of the world even could read.

00:30:26.240 They didn't know what was going on. They knew the story through stained glass windows, but they were

00:30:34.160 there at the representation of the once for all sacrifice of Christ. And they went to worship him.

00:30:43.120 And that was it. And then they went home and they could have, the family was intact in those days,

00:30:48.400 like it is not now. So they got together, they had each other. Now we don't. So people that don't

00:30:55.120 believe have their fellowship in bars, you know, other people anywhere in the world. But no,

00:31:02.320 the church went to church. It's just so beautiful. So we don't have to understand it. It's good that we

00:31:08.400 do, but we go there to worship God. Tell us about this spiritual director of yours,

00:31:13.360 Francis DeSales. You sure you want to hear this? I do. Okay. When I came into the church, I say 95,

00:31:21.120 and this was the story I'm going to tell you was in 1998, three years after I came into the church.

00:31:27.440 I came into the church. I was working at Catholic Answers. I had been with them full-time apologists

00:31:31.840 for nine years, but I had a pattern every morning when I get up and I would pray and I would read

00:31:40.240 something for 15 minutes and pray and get dressed and go to work. Well, my brother, David, was Catholic

00:31:49.120 16 years before me. So when I came into the church, I ransacked his bookshelves and stole quite a few

00:31:57.280 books, which he doesn't know I still have. If he's listening, he'll find out. Sorry, David, I could mail

00:32:03.760 them to you. And so I would read a book at a time. And I always read what I felt like reading because

00:32:10.080 people say, how do I know it? I said, don't worry about it. I'm not interested in shoulds. 1.00

00:32:15.040 What I feel like reading is what I'm going to read. Otherwise, I'll fall asleep while I'm reading.

00:32:19.520 So, and the only thing I wanted to read as a new Catholic is book on the saints, on confession,

00:32:26.960 on prayer, on the virtues. That's the only thing. I was hungry. I was stuck. So I would read one book

00:32:33.040 after another. And I had finished a book. I don't know what it was. And I said, what am I going to

00:32:38.520 read next? So I went through my bookshelves and I saw a book, Introduction to the Vat Life, 18 years as

00:32:44.720 a Protestant and so many years as a Catholic. I don't know. And I said, Introduction to the Vat Life.

00:32:49.100 I don't need it. Come on. I graduated seminary. I read the scriptures every year. I know the faith.

00:32:56.960 Well, I'll read it. And if I don't need it, if I don't need it, I'll put it down. Well, I got the

00:33:00.860 book, torn covers and yellow pages. It was so old. And I read the entire thing, still pieces each

00:33:08.140 morning. And when I finished the book, I got on my knees. And then I said, what else did Francis

00:33:16.180 DeSales write? I read nine books of his. I got on my knees and I said, blessed mother,

00:33:23.080 because I was still so new in Catholicism. I said, I'm not sure how this communion of saints

00:33:28.660 thing works. But if it's okay with you, that Francis DeSales would be my spiritual director.

00:33:35.420 That would really be great. Thank you. Amen. And got up, brushed my teeth, went to work.

00:33:43.840 That was Friday, a Friday in January 1998. And I was leaving on a plane Friday to speak at a Hebrew

00:33:54.640 Catholic conference in Florida. My brother was, I don't know if David was there. Everybody was a 1.00

00:34:03.340 Hebrew Catholic, Jewish Catholic. The only one that wasn't Jewish was Father Mitch Pacwa. And he's the 0.52

00:34:08.120 only one that looked Jewish. And speaks Hebrew. So I went down there. And nobody knows my prayer,

00:34:18.700 if it's okay, that's St. Fred. So Bob Monaghan, inside the Vatican, was the emcee. So I was speaking

00:34:25.600 on a Saturday afternoon. And he said to me, hi, Roz, I'm Bob. I said, hi, Bob, I'm Roz. We had emailed

00:34:31.300 him. And he said, what should I say about you? Because he was going to introduce me. I said, I don't

00:34:36.320 know. He said, well, give me something interesting. I said, I don't have anything interesting. Read the

00:34:41.660 bio, read the brochure. He said, no, I want something interesting. I said, I don't know what to think of.

00:34:46.360 He said, well, who are your favorite saints? I said, I don't have any. I said, well, I think I do.

00:34:51.280 St. Francis de Sales and Edith Stein. He said, why? I said, because they love God. And they have the

00:34:58.160 mind of the church. And if Francis de Sales were alive today, I would get on a plane and fly to

00:35:04.780 Geneva and sit at his feet. He said, okay, great. At that point, we were on the stage. So he walked up

00:35:11.780 to introduce me. He said, the only thing he said, I just asked Roz, who's Roz? I don't know.

00:35:17.640 I just, I wasn't Mother Miriam yet. I just asked Roz who her favorite saints were. And Edith Stein,

00:35:24.380 Francis de Sales, get on a plane, fly to Geneva, sit at his feet, told me, that's it. That's all he

00:35:28.900 said about me. And I said, this is crazy. So I got up and the talk was on the Eucharist.

00:35:33.920 And then a young lady, 30s, in her 30s, came up to me with a book. And the book was

00:35:42.000 The Spiritual Combat by Schipoli. And she said, it was St. Francis's favorite book. I'd like to give

00:35:49.800 it to you. And I said, no, no, no. You're reading it. I'll buy it. Let me see it. So I looked at the

00:35:56.220 back cover, written in the 1500s. I looked at the back cover, which said, this was St. Francis de Sales

00:36:03.720 favorite book. He carried it in his pocket for eight years and gave it to every one of

00:36:10.260 his spiritual directees.

00:36:12.080 Oh, I said he took me on. Yay. So I got the book. And of course, I read it. If anybody wants,

00:36:24.900 I think the best book ever written on spiritual combat. Get the title is Spiritual Combat by

00:36:32.920 Don Lorenzo Schipoli. It'll really disturb you, right? With every other line. Uh-oh, uh-oh.

00:36:45.780 And so I went home. And I just figured Our Lady answered my prayer. And I continued reading,

00:36:55.280 continued Catholic answers. But I was talking to St. Francis de Sales. And I said, so?

00:37:01.880 Well, he started the visitation order of Holy Mary. He started it in 1610. And the bishop,

00:37:12.020 he had women. He took women of all ages, like I do. Women of all ages. And he had them walk 0.62

00:37:20.480 the streets and reach out to the elderly and the poor. And the bishop didn't want it. Who heard of

00:37:28.220 nuns walking in the streets? He ordered Francis de Sales to have them be cloistered. So I said,

00:37:35.860 dear Francis de Sales, it's the 20th century. You want to do it now? We can walk the streets now.

00:37:41.900 And that's how this began. And it's, yeah, it's so utterly, utterly fantastic. And the fact that we're

00:37:52.100 Benedictines, that's a bit of a story. But the only way I can deal with that is to believe that St.

00:37:59.380 Francis de Sales brought me to St. Benedict. So I have, I have Our Lady of Guadalupe, St. Joseph,

00:38:06.360 St. Benedict, St. Francis de Sales, our four patrons. And I think the way he did that, because

00:38:13.100 St. Francis de Sales took the rule of St. Augustine, which is gorgeous, but it's loose.

00:38:20.400 It's not really structured. St. Benedict is a maniac when it comes to discipline.

00:38:30.200 And I'm not disciplined. I'm a dreamer. I don't, when Mother Gertrude, who's with me, 0.70

00:38:35.780 she's been with me over 10 years. She, everything's on time because of her. When the bell rings in

00:38:42.600 religious life, it's supposed to be the voice of God. And stop, whatever you're doing, you've

00:38:46.680 been in the middle of taking a bite, you stop. I don't, I say, oh no, I don't want to talk to me.

00:38:53.920 I have too much work to do. Come away. But she's fantastic. So St. Benedict, because of his rule,

00:39:00.700 which is, he's, he's known as the father of Western monasticism and 500s, most or religious life

00:39:10.680 pretty much comes from him, even if it's not monastic. And from his rule came many other rules,

00:39:20.160 but his rule is fantastic. And it's the whole Old Testament. It's all scripture. And it's fantastic.

00:39:27.040 If, if Mother Gertrude and others weren't here, I, I, I fail every day anyway, but I would, I would,

00:39:34.680 I don't know what I do. I want to love God. I want to keep the rule, but I really don't want to keep the

00:39:40.060 but I keep it because here I am and I I'm in vows. So this is a good thing. Um, I, some of the

00:39:48.800 priests, okay, we'll go back to our subject. They're priests. You've been ordained. You took

00:39:53.220 vows to teach the truth. You don't have a choice to be cowards. Okay. So that's how St. Francis de Sales 0.86

00:40:01.240 became my spiritual director from heaven. And I absolutely love him. And I think there's no greater

00:40:06.720 shepherd ever in the world. And if there are many books he wrote, but if you want to get a good sense

00:40:14.340 of him and his wisdom and his beauty, uh, get a book titled the spirit of St. Francis de Sales,

00:40:22.800 the spirit of St. Francis de Sales. It's written by a Bishop who was his disciple, Bishop Camus,

00:40:29.400 C-A-M-U-S and Bishop Camus couldn't believe how holy St. Francis de Sales was. So he

00:40:38.040 went below St. Francis de Sales chamber and St. Francis de Sales was alone. He drilled a hole

00:40:45.160 in the ceiling to watch him. And he, he said it was exactly the same. He's the same alone as he is

00:40:55.200 in person. Is he in his crowds? It's amazing. Just, nobody needs any other saint for the religious

00:41:05.460 life. It depends. But so, and in fact, when this began, it was at the invitation of Cardinal Raymond

00:41:13.380 Burke, who was then Archbishop of St. Louis. And the question was, if I should just start this,

00:41:20.720 I'm not foreign. I don't know what religious life is, but I'm not afraid. I'll do anything.

00:41:28.480 Or if I should learn to be religious with an order and then do this. And so,

00:41:35.440 uh, Archbishop Burke sent me to different orders. I visited several and I came back to him. And the last

00:41:42.480 one was the visitation order of Holy Mary. The last one I called, I got the phone with Superior. And I

00:41:49.620 said, my name is Rosalind Morse and I, I want to be a religious and talking about founding something

00:41:55.780 and I'm not formed. And she said, oh no, go, go ahead and do it. And I said, the problem with people

00:42:02.720 is I think I make a good impression. They don't believe me. I'm not formed. I need to be formed.

00:42:09.100 I need to be taught. I need to learn. And this, and I said that to the Superior. She said, oh no,

00:42:15.460 just do it. I said, I don't think you understand. I really, I'm not formed. I, I, and, and she said,

00:42:24.180 oh, Rosalind, God could do that in an instant. Yeah, he hasn't. It's taken years.

00:42:32.540 But I needed canonically to have a year novitiate in a cloistered order. And guess where I was?

00:42:44.700 Visitation of Holy Mary by St. Francis de Sales. A solid year. I'll tell you something a little

00:42:50.960 funny. When I went to them, I said, the Superior introduced me to the community. And I said,

00:42:56.960 you need to know three things. I don't like people. I've been a jail chap for 10 years. I teach

00:43:03.600 everything. But then I go home and shut my door. And I don't want to live with them. I, they're okay.

00:43:11.120 But I don't want to live with anybody. I said to them, secondly, I'm allergic to obedience.

00:43:17.140 And then I said, thirdly, as a cloistered order, no talking. I said, thirdly, it doesn't occur to me

00:43:26.380 not to talk. I said that to all of them. And I said, you have one year to make a religious out of 0.90

00:43:33.400 me. And you know, John Henry, to my shock, what I got first was the utter beauty and freedom of

00:43:42.500 obedience. I've been on my own since I'm 17. I haven't lived with anybody. I haven't been married.

00:43:49.700 I'm in control. Obedience? If I feel like it. No. I learned the freedom of obedience. Because when

00:43:58.360 you obey a superior, she could be wrong. She could be less spiritual. She could be a saint. Doesn't

00:44:05.040 matter. You're obeying God. Like when a child obeys his parents. A parent could be wrong. A child

00:44:11.880 doesn't obey because he's right. The child obeys because that's what the parents tell him. And if

00:44:17.560 the child is right and the parent's wrong, and the child obeys, he's right, even though the parent's

00:44:26.100 wrong. If the child is right, the parent wrong, and he doesn't obey, that he's wrong. That's the way

00:44:31.880 God set it up. And I learned it. So when I needed to, apart from sin, they never asked me to sin.

00:44:40.660 But when I knew that they weren't right, or they weren't so wise, or something wasn't so holy,

00:44:47.260 it didn't matter. If I obey, it's God forming me to trust him through others. It's an amazing,

00:44:58.480 amazing. It's an amazing thing. And I tell the sisters here, I'm not superior or whatever it is

00:45:05.600 because I'm holier. I could name some people here holier than me for sure. But that's not the point.

00:45:13.340 If I were perfect, you wouldn't be formed. Because you're not formed by my instruction alone.

00:45:19.760 If you disagree with me, if I'm my flaws and faults, and weaknesses and whatever show.

00:45:30.920 God is allowing that to form you in virtue. That's why a husband and wife.

00:45:39.460 God created marriage because there's no suffering apart from

00:45:42.480 no other way to get to heaven but suffering. And we, one man once said to me, he was in his 80s,

00:45:49.140 walking out of the church, he said, my wife is driving me up a wall. I said, she's doing her job. 0.99

00:45:55.660 Anyway, here we are, and started in 2008. And I bless God for what he said.

00:46:02.140 Just amazing. Just amazing. In our current state, Mother of the world,

00:46:08.420 I wanted to ask you, because I saw a couple of your programs, you get asked, obviously,

00:46:14.400 as many people do nowadays, about what times we're living in. I saw a recent little thing

00:46:22.800 someone wrote about the Antichrist, and you postulated whether or not the Antichrist could

00:46:27.300 be alive right now. Share with us your thoughts about where we are in terms of the world right now,

00:46:34.740 and what you feel is coming. I know you've read, as many have, you know,

00:46:40.560 the spiritual writings, St. Anne Catherine Emmerich, and others, or Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich,

00:46:45.360 and others, the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima, of La Salette, and of Akita, and so on.

00:46:52.120 What are your thoughts as to where we are right now?

00:46:54.560 Well, my first thought is that, well, the end times began with Jesus on the cross.

00:46:59.760 So we've been in the end times. Are we moving toward the end of the end times? I absolutely

00:47:06.020 believe that. Where we are at the end of the end times, I don't know. I just can't know.

00:47:14.080 I don't know that anybody can. Nobody, of course, knows the day or the hour.

00:47:18.480 But our Lord has left us a roadmap of a sort of things that have to take place.

00:47:24.980 Yes. Apostle Paul said in the book of Ephesians, after my departure, ravening wolves will enter in,

00:47:30.920 and that's 2,000 years ago, and they certainly have entered in, and as of today, have multiplied.

00:47:36.980 Peter writes about the time of apostasy, which I absolutely believe we're in. False teaching,

00:47:44.020 the abortion, that's, it's, I believe we're living in a time of apostasy. It doesn't mean that

00:47:50.420 everybody has lost the faith, but enough to completely endanger or see the destruction of

00:48:00.180 the church were it possible. It's not possible, because Jesus will lead us into all truth

00:48:05.980 till the end of time, and the gates of hell will not prevail. Didn't say they won't attack,

00:48:11.200 but they won't prevail. I do believe we're in the time of apostasy. How Pope Francis and Pope Leo are

00:48:20.580 true popes that God has allowed, I can't speculate. I can't know that. I did see your interview with

00:48:28.340 Javier, and that they are anti-popes. That's a comfort, in a sense, because the fact that true 1.00

00:48:35.120 popes would be countering the church and destroying millions of lives by teaching falsehood

00:48:43.740 is, and how's that? Because most Catholics don't know their faith. I said earlier, I came to the

00:48:50.200 church in 95 and saw then that three generations were lost to the faith. You know, when Pope Francis

00:48:56.760 teaches that you could be married and divorced with Morris Leticia and receive communion, that is

00:49:04.140 sacrilege. It's insane. No. And then he said it was magisterial teaching. And Catholics who don't 0.87

00:49:11.560 understand the true gift of infallibility and the fact that the Pope is not impeccable and not

00:49:16.980 infallible, he's a sinner like we are, and when what he says is to be obeyed and observed, most Catholics 0.99

00:49:24.280 have never been taught that. And so they think it's just fine. It's terrible. And those who come against

00:49:30.620 it are instead of a canvas, or they're just out of it. So it's tragic. But God, what I know, John Henry, I

00:49:39.160 don't know exactly where we are, because I do believe in the prophecies of the warning, yet to come, in the

00:49:46.760 three days of darkness, given, told us by Padre Pio and others, Julie Gehenny, is it? I believe a thousand years

00:49:55.040 of peace or a time of peace in Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will triumph. So I don't know the exact order

00:50:02.320 of all these things. St. Therese of Lisieux said her favorite book was a book titled The End of the

00:50:10.480 Present World, and St. Therese said it was her favorite book. It's good. And at that point, we

00:50:15.840 didn't, that he wrote it, we didn't have these apparitions yet. The apparitions tell us a lot.

00:50:20.540 I've read enough and heard enough to think it's possible he's alive on the earth today. But I think

00:50:27.280 those things, not to spread rumors, I don't know. I just say what I've heard and concluded could be

00:50:35.660 true. The thing, the most thing with me is no fear. There's just no fear. We are the most privileged

00:50:46.060 people in the world to have the faith and to have a voice, to speak the faith. We have to tell the

00:50:52.780 world. We have to tell the world and shame on us and say, I'm not an evangelist. Who cares?

00:51:00.540 God didn't make everybody an evangelist. What is an evangelist? An angel is a messenger of God.

00:51:06.780 And if you don't tell your husband and your wife and your children and your neighbors

00:51:10.460 that God came to earth to bring us to heaven, that's the least you can do. Yeah. But the last

00:51:18.380 few questions about scripture, and I don't know the answer. I'm not Protestant. Doesn't matter. 0.87

00:51:24.060 It doesn't matter. Say, I don't know. You know, the person that led my brother into the Catholic church,

00:51:29.980 my brother David has read, he's brilliant. He's two years older than I. If I live to be 500,

00:51:36.140 which I've asked God. I'll never read as much as he has. He's just very smart, fantastic mind.

00:51:44.860 And he was working at IBM and he had come to believe in Christ through the Baptist church.

00:51:51.660 But there was a fellow there named Herb. He was in Poughkeepsie, 29 years at IBM. And Herb was Catholic.

00:52:00.540 And my brother started asking him why. Why? And what about Mary? And what about this? And what about

00:52:07.260 that? And what about prayer of the saints? And this faithful, devoted Catholic man could never answer

00:52:15.500 David. He couldn't answer him. He come up with a articulate response. He couldn't come up with the

00:52:24.060 scriptures. He lived his faith. And he would say to David, David, I'm sorry, I don't know the answer.

00:52:32.780 But God is loving. And he's wise. And he can't make a mistake. And this and that. He would just

00:52:41.420 talk about who God is. And my brother David, who will not give in to emotions, was so frustrated with this

00:52:52.300 Catholic who didn't know anything. But he did, but he couldn't answer David. And David read many,

00:52:58.220 many books and talked to many intelligent, capable Catholics. But it was Herb that led David into the

00:53:06.060 Catholic faith. David wanted that faith. He wanted what he saw in Herb. An unshakable faith by a man who 0.83

00:53:16.700 couldn't give me an articulate answer. And Herb became Dave's sponsor.

00:53:21.580 Oh, wow. David's sponsor to the Catholic Church.

00:53:24.460 Oh, that's beautiful.

00:53:25.580 Oh, that's beautiful.

00:53:26.060 Yeah, just beautiful. So don't read what you know. You know, Jesus said to the disciples,

00:53:32.220 I'll tell you what to speak in that moment. Well, we're not the first 12 or 11, and we don't know

00:53:37.900 what God will do with us. It doesn't matter. If someone comes up to you and asks you about the faith,

00:53:44.460 trust that it's from God. And trust that what you have and what you don't have is what that person

00:53:53.980 needs. Invite them to church. Don't worry about it.

00:53:57.420 And finally, Mother, I wanted you to tell us about Hanukkah, because I know that you're formerly Jewish

00:54:04.140 and well, actually, you call yourself a completed Jew. So you're still sort of Jewish in that sense. 0.62

00:54:11.740 And so tell us about Hanukkah, what it means and what it means to us as Catholics as well.

00:54:16.140 You know, there's nothing that's Catholic that doesn't come from Jewish roots. Nothing. Our faith

00:54:22.860 comes from the old covenant into the new St. Augustine, what was concealed in the old is

00:54:27.740 revealed in the new. And it is Hanukkah or more literally Hanukkah, which we celebrated growing up.

00:54:37.980 And it's in John chapter 10. It's the Feast of Dedication. And the Feast of Dedication

00:54:47.900 in Hebrew, Hanukkah, happened about 200 years before Christ. And it's in the

00:54:55.180 Maccabees, Book of Maccabees, where the Jews were being slaughtered. And

00:55:04.860 Antiochus Epiphanes, Antiochus IV, who was Epiphanes, the ruler at the time, went into their temple,

00:55:16.700 destroyed the temple, destroyed the altar, and sacrificed a pig on the altar, which is very

00:55:25.260 unkosher. So no pig. And sacrificed a pig forbidden by God on that altar, destroyed the temple. 0.52

00:55:35.420 And Judas Maccabeus, a family that was very Jewish and fought Antiochus, he went into the

00:55:44.140 temple to restore. He defeated Antiochus and went to restore the temple. And he knew it would take time.

00:55:51.100 You had to consecrate the altar. But there was enough oil for only one day, and they couldn't

00:55:56.620 do it all in one day. And so they went on a journey to get new oil. Well, it took eight days

00:56:05.260 for them to get that oil and come back. No express trains or anything. They came back. But there was

00:56:12.860 enough one day, and the oil burned for the full eight. It's a miracle. It's called the

00:56:20.620 the miracle of Hanukkah, a miracle happened here. And so they came back with the oil enough. And

00:56:30.460 they put a feast together, Hanukkah, the feast of dedication, the dedication of the temple

00:56:38.140 that took eight days. And so in the normal temple in Jerusalem or any

00:56:43.820 temple you go to that's Jewish, they have a seven-armed candelabra, six and six in the middle, 0.83

00:56:56.300 representing seven days of creation and maybe other things. But this

00:57:01.180 candelabra is called a menorah, and it has nine. It has one candle for each of the eight days,

00:57:11.740 and the middle candle, which is raised up, called the shamus, meaning servant. So here's how we

00:57:17.820 celebrate it. We do from, you know, in English we write from left to right. Hebrew is from right to left.

00:57:25.020 And so they light the menorah from right to left. So the first day of Hanukkah, and we have prayers

00:57:30.940 for each day, and we have songs. Beautiful. So we light, take the shamus, the service candle,

00:57:37.660 the servant, and light the first candle. And we let it all burn down, burns down in the same night.

00:57:44.540 The second day we put two candles in and take the servant candle and light both. They burn down

00:57:50.460 each day until all eight are lit, which is the eight days of Hanukkah, which this year began

00:57:58.460 on December 14th and ends on the 22nd. What does it mean for Catholics? It means that God is the God of

00:58:04.860 miracles. The same God that created the world, Genesis 1, had the oil burned for eight days and

00:58:14.060 and is the same God that sent his son and the Holy Spirit into us. There's nothing from the Old

00:58:21.820 Testament. But I will say one thing. From the beginning of time, as we all know, has God said,

00:58:30.620 come on, you can eat from that tree. Come on. And why did they eat from the tree? Because they believed the

00:58:36.860 serpent lie that they could be like God without God. Take it. And every temptation, Jesus' three 0.91

00:58:48.140 temptations in the wilderness when he began his public ministry is the same as the three temptations

00:58:56.460 in the garden. The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.

00:59:00.860 We could go through his temptations. That's what it is. Does nothing new.

00:59:08.860 It's the same thing that he did in the garden. He tempts us with nothing is new, just our circumstances.

00:59:16.780 And if we study that and we know it, then we say, oh, same old, same old, get out of here.

00:59:25.980 That's the way I deal with him. Get out of here. I'm not interested. Get out of here.

00:59:30.140 That's what I say. He understands English. He does. Get out of here. He does. 1.00

00:59:38.460 But from the garden on, when our Lord said that through the woman, Eve, her seed would crush 1.00

00:59:49.340 the seed of the serpent. That's the cross. It was a fatal blow. And Satan knew it. And so,

00:59:59.180 he had to destroy Adam and Eve. He had to destroy their offspring. He had to destroy 0.72

01:00:06.780 the building of the family through which the Messiah would come.

01:00:09.740 And to this day, Satan's not interested in LBGTQ, same-sex marriage, which is in marriage. Not

01:00:16.860 interested in any of that. He only wants to destroy the people of God in any way he can. Why?

01:00:23.180 Because he can't destroy the church. But if he destroys the people of God, no vocations,

01:00:29.180 that's a way. And so, from Adam and Eve on, he has never ceased to destroy the people of God.

01:00:39.900 From Abraham, through Isaac, through Jacob, through Judah, through David, to the son of David, who is

01:00:46.780 Christ. And the people God formed for himself is a whole other subject, the people of Israel.

01:00:53.260 Israel. And God made a covenant, which will endure. It's irrevocable, Romans chapter 11,

01:01:01.580 and will endure to the end of time. And the church is not Israel. That's a huge 0.87

01:01:08.540 heresy. There's no replacement theology. The church is not Israel. If anyone wants to really 0.98

01:01:15.580 understand this, I'm going to... May I give two references, John Henry? One is Roy Schoman's book.

01:01:23.260 He was a convert from Judaism. The Blessed Mother appeared to him. If you haven't heard his story,

01:01:31.500 you need to. It's beautiful. And the name of his book is Salvation is from the Jews.

01:01:37.820 That's a quote from our Lord in the Gospel. Salvation is from the Jews, and he takes us from Abraham 0.98

01:01:43.980 through the second coming. The Jews had a part in his first coming because he came through them, 0.99

01:01:48.540 and they have a part in his second coming. And our catechism says the glorious Messiah's return

01:01:54.780 awaits his recognition by all Israel. And it's not speaking about the church. It's speaking about his

01:02:00.140 people who are now turned from him. They're turned from him. It's a disgrace. They've been turned to him

01:02:07.020 through much of history. The Messiah came through them not because of their faithfulness,

01:02:10.620 because of God's faithfulness. Why does he keep his church? Because of our faithfulness? No, no, no, no.

01:02:16.460 Because God is faithful to build his church. And so every attempt to destroy the people of God

01:02:23.180 is the devil's. It hasn't stopped. And we're the people of God now. So same-sex marriage, 0.87

01:02:32.380 and they have popes, if they are popes, and all that's going on. Why God allows it, I don't know, but

01:02:43.180 it could separate the wheat from the chaff.

01:02:45.180 So if you're out there listening to this, I beg you, you cannot stand before God

01:02:55.980 and give the excuse that your priest taught this, that your bishop taught this, that the pope taught

01:03:03.100 this. No. If you can read and write, you read the scriptures, read the encyclicals of the past,

01:03:09.820 learn your faith. My first job was when I was 17, and I was a bank teller, John Henry, in Toronto, Canada.

01:03:20.940 My first job, I earned a huge salary of $37 a week and supported family on that. $37, our own family,

01:03:29.820 we didn't have jobs. And we were moved to the north of Toronto because we were Jews, and they didn't

01:03:34.700 want us. I was refused jobs in Toronto because I was Jewish. Just crazy, crazy world. And as a bank

01:03:40.140 teller, they taught us how to know counterfeit money, because we had to know what was counterfeit.

01:03:48.460 They taught us how to identify counterfeit money by never showing us a single counterfeit bill.

01:03:56.940 We only studied the real thing, and we knew the real thing so well that we knew anything that wasn't it.

01:04:04.700 Beautiful.

01:04:05.660 And that's what we need for faith.

01:04:08.220 Indeed. Thank you so much, Mother Miriam, for being with us. God bless you. God bless your order.

01:04:14.140 And I pray that you flourish because you're so needed in the church today. Thank you for your

01:04:20.140 courage. Thank you for speaking.

01:04:22.300 Oh, blessed be God. I praise you. Thank you, John Henry.

01:04:25.660 And God bless you, my friends. We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - January 09, 2026

Pope Leo’s Evil Agenda EXPOSED： Mother Miriam Reveals ERRORS of Pope Leo

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