Pope Leo’s Evil Agenda EXPOSED： Mother Miriam Reveals ERRORS of Pope Leo
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Mother Miriam, host of her own show, Mother Miriam Live, joins me today to talk about Pope Leo, what's going on in the Vatican, and the end times. She also shares her advice to priests, bishops, cardinals, and religious who are afraid to speak the truth.
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It seems that this Pope, at the expense of the faith, is doing anything he can for unity.
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It's sickening that Jesus didn't come to put us together. He came to put us together in truth.
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Hello, my dear friends. Welcome to the John Henry Weston Show. I have a guest for you today who,
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well, you all know her and love her. Mother Miriam is the host of her own show, Mother Miriam Live,
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and she's all known and loved you because her trajectory was amazing. Remember, she was
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born into the Jewish faith and then became an evangelical and then became a Catholic and then
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became a Catholic nun, starting her own order. It's so incredible because of her witness. Her
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witness is basically to be Christ the world, and they do that in her order, particularly by wearing
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the habit, the full habit, which speaks to Christ. And she's got so many beautiful stories,
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which we've already talked about on previous shows. I want to talk to her today about Pope Leo,
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what's going on in the Vatican, about the end times. You're going to want to stay tuned for this one.
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Oh, John Henry, it's an honor and a privilege and a great happiness for me always.
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Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross. Lead us, please, if you would.
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Amen. So, Mother, I've watched a few of your later episodes, and I thought, wow, you are right on the
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pulse of what's going on. And the most striking thing is unafraid. And I'm sorry to say it that way,
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but I look at the church today with so many of the prelates of the religious who have voices,
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but they don't speak. And I'm going to start with a very hard thing, because they don't speak about
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what's going on with Pope Leo. And that's stunning to me, more even so than Pope Leo himself. The
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It's tragic. It's absolutely tragic. And it was, I don't know, the life of Edmund Burke,
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but it was he who said, the only thing needed for evil to flourish is for good men to remain
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silent. And for bishops, priests, bishops, cardinals, who are good, who love the church,
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to remain silent is, to me, an absolute tragedy. If they are afraid that they'll be, quote, unquote,
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canceled, so what? The sheep need the truth. And I would beg, John Henry, every canceled priest,
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prelate of any kind, I would beg them, if they're canceled, not to gather in conferences all over
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the place, walk the streets, knock on doors. They're priests after the order of Melchizedek,
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forever. Knock on doors, go two by two, and preach the gospel. And as Pope Benedict said,
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in our generation, the church will probably go underground, and little by little, it's doing
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that. So I beg priests, bishops, everyone to do that. And don't stop celebrating the mass. Do it
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in homes. Do it wherever you need to. You are a priest, and nobody can stop you from that.
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It is very challenging, because they're faced with obedience, on the one hand, which they're told,
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and then this, what do you do? I'm being told to do wrong things, even sinful things.
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How are you supposed to make sense of that as a priest, even as a bishop?
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Well, I would say the same way children ought to be obedient to parents in everything but sin.
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And the same thing with priests and prelates. You don't obey sin. You don't obey what is against
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the faith that you've been ordained and vowed to preach. You can't obey that. Peter said,
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you tell me if I obey God or men. No. If it's legitimate, even if it's disappointing,
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that's one thing. But to be canceled or put out because you speak the truth, that is an insanity
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and a sin. And I would not let that prelate, that bishop, I would not give him, what do I say,
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the tool to destroy the church by my obedience. We've seen probably the same recklessness that
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we saw under Francis from Leo. And some would say even more. Well, particularly because he's an
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American. He speaks English. He speaks with a smile, so we think it's not so bad.
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The tragedy to hear in our own language, in a nuance that we all understand, because he's
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American, on abortion, that if you're not against the death penalty, then you're not really pro-life.
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That cut in a way that very, I can understand some Italian from Francis, but hearing it in your
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own tongue, in your own nuance, in everything, I don't know, that hit real hard. What about for you,
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Murray? A knife through the heart. How, after 2,000 years, with the dogma, the faith, with the
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catechisms, the Trent, our current catechism, everything, to hear a pope of all people come out
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and say, this is not true, the death penalty. It's astounding. And I ache, John Henry, because
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millions of Catholics don't know their faith, and they believe it. They don't know what to believe
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because they're not catechized. I came into the church in 95 and found at that time three generations
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lost to the faith. So what Pope Leo now says, it's just a knife to my heart, but I live for the
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salvation of souls. And I get angry and just physically sick at heart when I hear a pope talk
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against the faith and appoint bishops who are against the faith. It just grieves me no end.
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That's quite something, because there is something, for instance, that most won't say. A lot of,
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even good bishops will say, well, it can be interpreted in a way that's not really against
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the faith. It's, it's, you know. No. Truth is truth. You know, I am the way, the truth, and the
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life, said our Lord. Well, we have to understand the context and how he said it and when he said it
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and why he said it and what he meant. And yeah, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, we don't interpret it.
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He said what he said. And you said, John Henry, he's an American. We know how to take what he says.
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No, no, no, no. It's just absolutely tragic. And I think to myself, does he really not believe some
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of the things he says? Or does he really believe some of the things he says? He's been the superior
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of the Augustinians. I don't know if he has been taken over by Satan. It's not so obvious. That's
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what the tragedy is. It's subtle. I don't know. I don't know what he believes and what he does or who
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he's trying to please. It's not good. I see it as evil. I'm going to use that strong word. I see it
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as evil. It is very confusing for the faithful because a lot of the issues are so, they're
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convoluted. So, for instance, the LGBT, and this is a big one for the whole world right now, but
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when he welcomed, you know, James Martin S.J. into the Vatican, just like Francis had, we thought it
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sort of ended and then it happened. And then the LGBT pilgrimage through the Holy Door and all of
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that, which was... And the first bishop he appointed in support of LGBT. Indeed. Are you referring to the
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American bishop? No. Was it Switzerland? Oh, in St. Gallen, yes. That's the other thing. That bishop
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was in favor of both the LGBT nonsense, but also women's ordination. Women's ordination, which
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cannot happen. It cannot happen. I mean, and the worst, for me, the worst part is these issues are
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very confusing for Catholics. Like, we've already had 13 years of todos, todos, todos, and who am I to
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judge? And you've had sincere, believing Catholics, now completely confused. Thinking, A, the church's
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teaching can change because, oh, at one time we used to do this, and now we don't. And, you know,
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these little mothers who are like, oh, I'm so glad I used to pray for my son who's gay, and now it's
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all fine. It's mind-blowing. And yet, it's still happening, and it's happening in a vacuum of silence
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from all the bishops and cardinals of the world, just about.
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Someone once said to the cardinals, do you know why you wear red? Do you know why your sash is red?
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I tell you, you say it's mind-boggling, but it affects me physically. It makes me ill.
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Jesus came to the salvation of the world, and it seems that Pope Leo, who looks like a wonderful man,
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who speaks like a lovely man, who smiles beautifully. I'm just going to say this. As upset as I was with
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Pope Francis, I'm more upset with Pope Leo because, to me, the teaching against the faith, what he allows
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in the world, what he's trying to do now is, I don't know if I can say it's subtle, but I think it's evil.
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He wants, it seems, I can't know this, to get all the faiths together. He said, I'm not going to cancel
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the Latin Mass, but there needs to be restrictions. There needs to be changed. No, there doesn't have to
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there don't need to be any changes in the Latin Mass. There need to be changes, not canceling it, but we
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have to get new norms. We have to make it so that everybody is together. So there's unity. The word
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unity, John Henry, I just equate with the devil at the moment. Jesus prayed, John 17, that we would be
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one as he and the Father are one. But in the context of his being truth, there's no unity
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without truth. There's the devil's unity, that we could believe whatever we want, doesn't matter if
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it's true or not, because we're together. And it seems that this Pope, at the expense of the faith,
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at the expense of the faithful, is doing anything he can, Muslims, everybody, for unity. It's sickening
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that Jesus didn't come to put us together. He came to put us together in truth. And apart from
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truth, there can be no unity whatsoever. So here's the thing that really strikes people. I think
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it's more so of Leo than anybody else, but it's also true of prelates and even priests who are
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unfaithful in some ways. But then they're still saying Mass. They're still talking about Jesus in
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very positive ways. They're praying the rosary. They're doing... That disconnect, it really does.
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It kind of fries your mind as a faithful. And I appreciate what you said, Mother, because for you,
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you feel it. I think for the clergy and for religious who have it as their vocation that it
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is the faith and salvation of souls, I get it. That pierces you in a way that is not the same for the
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faithful. It's beyond in a way. But that watching the very pious, devout-looking celebration of the
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Mass, of the rosary, of even talking well about things, and then juxtaposed against the other,
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it rattles your head. You don't even know what's up and down anymore.
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You wonder if what their faith is in celebrating Mass and in teaching faith. You wonder if they're
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saying what they once believed is true or they know is true, but they have another agenda, whether
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it's self-protection or... I don't know. To be popular, I don't know what it is, but it's just
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tragic. And I would tend to believe that the good bishops and good priests who are not speaking out,
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I would be on the side of their being true, and they're really believing what they're saying
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and believing the faith. They just don't want to be singled out. I remember one archbishop,
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he was so good, and I was so glad that he was in the position he was. I'm not glad anymore because
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he's compromised the faith left and right. But I remember at the time, because he was so orthodox,
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he said to some people close to him, I'm a marked man. And then he began to compromise.
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Well, so what? Jesus was a marked man, and you're a priest. You're an altus Christus.
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I'm marked. I've been put out of a couple of dioceses, and I don't know where I'm going to
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be in this one. No, no. Well, blessed be God. Why are we marked? Because we love God. We love
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his son and the Holy Spirit and his blessed mother. And we feel privileged. That's what I say so often,
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John Henry. People, why doesn't that one believe? Why doesn't that one believe? I don't know.
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I don't know why I believe. I wasn't searching. I'm no better. I'm no holier. I'm worse.
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It's God's grace. Well, but they believe. Why don't they live their faith? I can't answer that
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either. Why do I? Because of the grace of God. Well, don't they have the grace of God? Well,
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you think, but my favorite prayer of the Mass says that our thanksgiving alone, our ability to thank
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you is by your grace. So do other people have that grace? I would think they do. Why don't they
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respond? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe the fact that I grew up fighting in Brooklyn helps. I don't
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know. But I cannot excuse in my heart. I cannot excuse. I will never say who am I to judge because
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we are to judge. We cannot judge motives, but we must, must, and our Lord says so, we must judge
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actions or lack of actions. We don't know the heart, but we can judge what is done and what is not done.
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We can judge. We can't, again, know the utter core of it. And I've thought of a really wonderful
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archbishop who I know, who is faithful, but once in a while he gives a little peep. Mostly he's silent.
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And I think maybe if I were a bishop or an archbishop, would I speak out? I can't imagine not
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speaking out. But if an archbishop knows that he speaks out and he'll be removed, such as our dear
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Bishop Strickland was, then he cannot lead his sheep to heaven. Then he cannot care for them. That's a
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huge price. It's a huge price. So maybe he'd say, I'd rather keep quiet and be here and teach my flock
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to the truth, then make waves. I don't know. I don't know. But he, for any priest, any bishop, any prelate, any
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cardinal who does not speak the truth, I grieve for them and for their flock. I do.
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I think that's a very powerful argument, that they would be stripped of their diocese. They would
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leave their flock to other wolves, perhaps. The difficulty with that is, though, is that, you know, you
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compromise a little here and there and it keeps going, as you mentioned in the case of the other
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archbishop that you knew. It is. It's a challenging thing. One of the arguments that I've heard as well
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is that, you know, for the sake of getting some more freedom for the Latin Mass, there's a possibility
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of doing that with being a little more quiet. And I know you love the Latin Mass, Mother. You're
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persecuted because you want the Latin Mass. But tell us about that, the motivation that comes from
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the possibility of gaining more access or opening access to the Latin Mass as a motivation for being
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silent. No, no. When, you know, if it's one priest in one parish that's speaking Arab
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or compromise or is silent, so be it. But the Pope and Cardinals, Cardinal Fernandez,
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where it affects millions and millions of sheep and it's let go, to what? Preserve the Latin Mass?
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Yes, absolutely not. The Mass doesn't belong to us. It's God's Mass. The Church doesn't belong to us.
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It's the Church against will, which our Lord said the gates of hell won't prevail.
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He's building his Church. We are to speak the truth and leave the consequences to God's
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providence and his will. As I mentioned before, Pope Benedict said that in our generation,
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the Church will go underground. It's beginning to do that.
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And so what? So the first time, John Henry, I ever experienced a Latin Mass was in the kitchen of
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somebody's home in New Jersey. I didn't know anything. It was a retired priest who had permission
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to celebrate Mass in the house. And I went through that standing in the kitchen and the Mass finished.
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And it wasn't my home. I didn't know anything, but I didn't care. I went upstairs, found a bedroom,
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closed the door, and I sobbed. I said, we've been robbed. What is this? We've been robbed.
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And I didn't know it. But even going into the Novus Ordo with a fabulous priest,
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Monsignor, who led me into the Church. But I said, I'm in the Catholic Church now. I'm in the fullness
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of faith. Where's the reverence? What's wrong here? And the problem with that, the reason I felt that
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is because a year before I entered the Church, I came across and ordered, therefore, a CD. No,
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there wasn't CDs. It was a cassette by Bishop Fulton Sheen, who I didn't know. It was from Keep Faith,
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which I didn't know. And it was Bishop Sheen's narrating of a 1940 Easter vigil.
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And in fact, if anybody wants to find it, you can look it up on the web, 1940 Catholic Mass.
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You'll see it on YouTube, 1940 Catholic. I listened to that. I could not believe the beauty
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that I heard. I could not believe it. And I went to sleep every night for a year with that tape.
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And I wasn't going to enter the Catholic Church yet. I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do that.
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But I listened to that and the beauty of it, the reverence. And then I came into the Church
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and it was Novus Ordo. And I said, what happened? Where is what I listened to for a year? Where is
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it? Oh, my. And I just figured, well, that's old fashioned and this is new. Until I found the
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Latin Mass. And it's just so beautiful. Even in a kitchen. Standing in the kitchen. No kneelers,
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no room to kneel. It was packed. Standing in the kitchen on a kitchen, Middle Ireland. He celebrated
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the Mass. It was just beautiful. I got an email from someone on Mother Miriam Live the other day.
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And she said, I've been in the Novus Ordo. I returned to the church. But I recently found
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the Latin Mass. That's all she said. I've been going to Latin Mass now. Not long. And she said,
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as a result, I'm dressing modestly. I've gotten rid of all this ridiculous music. I this, I that. I
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changed. My family is against me now because they can't relate anymore. And my sister's homosexual.
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And my parents are against me because I won't go to her wedding. Just from going to the Latin Mass.
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The reverence, the beauty. You learn who God is.
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We have a Novus Ordo Mass that's one of the unicorn masses, as they call it here. And every once a week,
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we can get to a traditional Latin Mass a ways away. But here's the thing. There's so many people who
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don't understand this thing. And okay, here's a weird one for you. Traditional Latin Mass can have or
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cannot have hymns that are in the vernacular. So I noticed some of the most famous traditional
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hymns that we have that are in English or in the vernacular are written in the 1600s.
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When there's only Latin Mass, how are they singing vernacular hymns in the Mass? And they are Mass
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hymns. What is that? Do you know? Do I know what it is? I'm ecstatic. I'm just ecstatic.
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You know, when I think, I just say this because I think it's so, and I think he showed me,
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St. Francis de Sales is my spiritual director from heaven. That's the story. I don't know if I ever
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told you that. No. Beautiful. You should tell me that. Answer the question, then tell me that.
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He didn't go to the Novus Ordo. All these saints, they didn't go. Novus Ordo didn't exist.
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That didn't exist. So to use old hymns. In my 1962 FSSP parish, many of the hymns are in English.
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When they sing, when they have a high mass, they also sing in English. Oh, so no, I didn't even
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knew about whether they were or weren't. I didn't know. We normally go to a low mass and there's
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no music. But when we go to the high mass, especially if there's a quote unquote closing
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song, closing hymn, it's normally in English, not always. So I don't know what's not.
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One more question before we get to your story, because we really want that story.
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If it's not exclusively Latin, because I understand that sometimes in a Latin mass,
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the readings can be given in English and the gospel and so on. What is it? I'm still,
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I think there's a lot of people still saying, okay, what is this? Because these people who do that,
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and everybody sees it, that study on Latin mass versus Nova Sordo, apart from everything
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else, everybody sees it. Basically, one side is like 98% believing of Catholicism versus the other
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side in the single digits. That scares the crump out of everybody. But everybody's trying to understand
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what is it? And the question then comes, can we do a Nova Sordo that is just reverent enough?
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Or is it something actually sort of like ontologically different?
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Absolutely different. Absolutely different. Because with Pope Paul VI, all the Latin was kept.
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It was ad orientum. The prayers were all in Latin, no English at all. And there are those who celebrate
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today, you know, the Novus Ordo, and keep ad orientum, lest the bishops have forbidden them. Shame on
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those bishops. And all the hymns are in Latin. And we had here a priest come, sent a proper letter to
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the chancery, the bishop and all that, to celebrate the first vows of one of our sisters. And he did
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everything. He wasn't very confident in the Latin mass. He could do it, he said, but it'll take me a
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little time. But he did the Novus Ordo completely, all the readings, everything, completely in Latin.
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Latin is the language of the mass. But even with all the language in Latin, and the hymns in Latin,
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and the prayers in Latin, the difference, I don't, I don't have to ask Dr. Kwaschenevsky about this,
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the difference between the Novus Ordo and the Latin mass. The Novus Ordo is simply, even when it's done
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ad orientum, it just seems geared to the people. And the Latin mass, I had another email the other
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day on the program. I finally went to the Latin mass because you talk so much about it. And I didn't
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understand what was going on. So why? Why should I be there? And number one, you can understand. If
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you know the mass, the Novus Ordo, you can follow it in Latin to a great degree. There are booklets
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in almost every Latin mass church, those red covered booklets that have
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Latin and English. So you could follow that if you wish. But it's not a matter of your hearing
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everything. It's the matter of your being present. I don't, I wonder, John Henry, I didn't think of
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this before, but there were a lot of people at Calvary, a lot. And I wouldn't say that most of
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them heard what Jesus said, his seven last words on the cross. There was no microphone and tons of
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people. How could they have heard him? He didn't shout. He wasn't announcing it. He just spoke to
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his father. We are privileged to be there when an altar Christus is saying the mass, which will bring
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our Lord down to earth, that he might be represented on that altar as he was 2,000 years ago, that we,
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who could not be at Calvary 2,000 years ago, can be at Calvary represented at every mass.
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It's astonishing. It's overwhelming. We don't need to sing. We don't need to shake hands. We don't do it.
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Just be focused on what's doing. You don't have to hear the priest. But if you wish to, get a book,
00:28:16.980
get a translation, get a book that really takes you through the mass. We don't go to church for
00:28:22.660
fellowship. The book that had the most to do with my coming into the church was The Spirit of
00:28:29.060
Catholicism by Carl Adam, written about the 13th century prior to the Reformation,
00:28:39.940
where the church stopped at noon with the Angelus bells and went on its knees. The painting you have,
00:28:51.340
the painting we have of that couple in the field and their home in the background and they have a
00:28:56.460
little packed lunch. It's the Angelus when the angel of the Lord appeared unto Mary. And we say that
00:29:05.480
six, 12 and six, three times a day because the church stopped. And I've always pictured,
00:29:13.780
I wasn't Catholic when I read that. And I said, you've got to be kidding. Can you picture the world
00:29:18.560
stopping at Nordstrom's in restaurants and the streets in businesses at noon with the bells going
00:29:26.880
on their knees at the word became flesh? That was incredible. And in fact, when I came to the Catholic
00:29:32.840
church and began this community, which I pray God began it, I had us walk in the street with Bell
00:29:41.160
and we rang it at noon and went on our knees and we had people come to us. One man came in tears. He
00:29:48.280
said, oh, sisters, I did that as a little boy. And he saw it's just so gorgeous. So, and then on Sundays,
00:29:58.960
the church went to church. The body of Christ went to church, not to see one another, not to be social,
00:30:10.320
to worship Christ. And most of them didn't understand what was being said. 13th century,
00:30:18.800
the printing press wasn't around. They said only 5% of the world even could read.
00:30:26.240
They didn't know what was going on. They knew the story through stained glass windows, but they were
00:30:34.160
there at the representation of the once for all sacrifice of Christ. And they went to worship him.
00:30:43.120
And that was it. And then they went home and they could have, the family was intact in those days,
00:30:48.400
like it is not now. So they got together, they had each other. Now we don't. So people that don't
00:30:55.120
believe have their fellowship in bars, you know, other people anywhere in the world. But no,
00:31:02.320
the church went to church. It's just so beautiful. So we don't have to understand it. It's good that we
00:31:08.400
do, but we go there to worship God. Tell us about this spiritual director of yours,
00:31:13.360
Francis DeSales. You sure you want to hear this? I do. Okay. When I came into the church, I say 95,
00:31:21.120
and this was the story I'm going to tell you was in 1998, three years after I came into the church.
00:31:27.440
I came into the church. I was working at Catholic Answers. I had been with them full-time apologists
00:31:31.840
for nine years, but I had a pattern every morning when I get up and I would pray and I would read
00:31:40.240
something for 15 minutes and pray and get dressed and go to work. Well, my brother, David, was Catholic
00:31:49.120
16 years before me. So when I came into the church, I ransacked his bookshelves and stole quite a few
00:31:57.280
books, which he doesn't know I still have. If he's listening, he'll find out. Sorry, David, I could mail
00:32:03.760
them to you. And so I would read a book at a time. And I always read what I felt like reading because
00:32:10.080
people say, how do I know it? I said, don't worry about it. I'm not interested in shoulds.
00:32:15.040
What I feel like reading is what I'm going to read. Otherwise, I'll fall asleep while I'm reading.
00:32:19.520
So, and the only thing I wanted to read as a new Catholic is book on the saints, on confession,
00:32:26.960
on prayer, on the virtues. That's the only thing. I was hungry. I was stuck. So I would read one book
00:32:33.040
after another. And I had finished a book. I don't know what it was. And I said, what am I going to
00:32:38.520
read next? So I went through my bookshelves and I saw a book, Introduction to the Vat Life, 18 years as
00:32:44.720
a Protestant and so many years as a Catholic. I don't know. And I said, Introduction to the Vat Life.
00:32:49.100
I don't need it. Come on. I graduated seminary. I read the scriptures every year. I know the faith.
00:32:56.960
Well, I'll read it. And if I don't need it, if I don't need it, I'll put it down. Well, I got the
00:33:00.860
book, torn covers and yellow pages. It was so old. And I read the entire thing, still pieces each
00:33:08.140
morning. And when I finished the book, I got on my knees. And then I said, what else did Francis
00:33:16.180
DeSales write? I read nine books of his. I got on my knees and I said, blessed mother,
00:33:23.080
because I was still so new in Catholicism. I said, I'm not sure how this communion of saints
00:33:28.660
thing works. But if it's okay with you, that Francis DeSales would be my spiritual director.
00:33:35.420
That would really be great. Thank you. Amen. And got up, brushed my teeth, went to work.
00:33:43.840
That was Friday, a Friday in January 1998. And I was leaving on a plane Friday to speak at a Hebrew
00:33:54.640
Catholic conference in Florida. My brother was, I don't know if David was there. Everybody was a
00:34:03.340
Hebrew Catholic, Jewish Catholic. The only one that wasn't Jewish was Father Mitch Pacwa. And he's the
00:34:08.120
only one that looked Jewish. And speaks Hebrew. So I went down there. And nobody knows my prayer,
00:34:18.700
if it's okay, that's St. Fred. So Bob Monaghan, inside the Vatican, was the emcee. So I was speaking
00:34:25.600
on a Saturday afternoon. And he said to me, hi, Roz, I'm Bob. I said, hi, Bob, I'm Roz. We had emailed
00:34:31.300
him. And he said, what should I say about you? Because he was going to introduce me. I said, I don't
00:34:36.320
know. He said, well, give me something interesting. I said, I don't have anything interesting. Read the
00:34:41.660
bio, read the brochure. He said, no, I want something interesting. I said, I don't know what to think of.
00:34:46.360
He said, well, who are your favorite saints? I said, I don't have any. I said, well, I think I do.
00:34:51.280
St. Francis de Sales and Edith Stein. He said, why? I said, because they love God. And they have the
00:34:58.160
mind of the church. And if Francis de Sales were alive today, I would get on a plane and fly to
00:35:04.780
Geneva and sit at his feet. He said, okay, great. At that point, we were on the stage. So he walked up
00:35:11.780
to introduce me. He said, the only thing he said, I just asked Roz, who's Roz? I don't know.
00:35:17.640
I just, I wasn't Mother Miriam yet. I just asked Roz who her favorite saints were. And Edith Stein,
00:35:24.380
Francis de Sales, get on a plane, fly to Geneva, sit at his feet, told me, that's it. That's all he
00:35:28.900
said about me. And I said, this is crazy. So I got up and the talk was on the Eucharist.
00:35:33.920
And then a young lady, 30s, in her 30s, came up to me with a book. And the book was
00:35:42.000
The Spiritual Combat by Schipoli. And she said, it was St. Francis's favorite book. I'd like to give
00:35:49.800
it to you. And I said, no, no, no. You're reading it. I'll buy it. Let me see it. So I looked at the
00:35:56.220
back cover, written in the 1500s. I looked at the back cover, which said, this was St. Francis de Sales
00:36:03.720
favorite book. He carried it in his pocket for eight years and gave it to every one of
00:36:12.080
Oh, I said he took me on. Yay. So I got the book. And of course, I read it. If anybody wants,
00:36:24.900
I think the best book ever written on spiritual combat. Get the title is Spiritual Combat by
00:36:32.920
Don Lorenzo Schipoli. It'll really disturb you, right? With every other line. Uh-oh, uh-oh.
00:36:45.780
And so I went home. And I just figured Our Lady answered my prayer. And I continued reading,
00:36:55.280
continued Catholic answers. But I was talking to St. Francis de Sales. And I said, so?
00:37:01.880
Well, he started the visitation order of Holy Mary. He started it in 1610. And the bishop,
00:37:12.020
he had women. He took women of all ages, like I do. Women of all ages. And he had them walk
00:37:20.480
the streets and reach out to the elderly and the poor. And the bishop didn't want it. Who heard of
00:37:28.220
nuns walking in the streets? He ordered Francis de Sales to have them be cloistered. So I said,
00:37:35.860
dear Francis de Sales, it's the 20th century. You want to do it now? We can walk the streets now.
00:37:41.900
And that's how this began. And it's, yeah, it's so utterly, utterly fantastic. And the fact that we're
00:37:52.100
Benedictines, that's a bit of a story. But the only way I can deal with that is to believe that St.
00:37:59.380
Francis de Sales brought me to St. Benedict. So I have, I have Our Lady of Guadalupe, St. Joseph,
00:38:06.360
St. Benedict, St. Francis de Sales, our four patrons. And I think the way he did that, because
00:38:13.100
St. Francis de Sales took the rule of St. Augustine, which is gorgeous, but it's loose.
00:38:20.400
It's not really structured. St. Benedict is a maniac when it comes to discipline.
00:38:30.200
And I'm not disciplined. I'm a dreamer. I don't, when Mother Gertrude, who's with me,
00:38:35.780
she's been with me over 10 years. She, everything's on time because of her. When the bell rings in
00:38:42.600
religious life, it's supposed to be the voice of God. And stop, whatever you're doing, you've
00:38:46.680
been in the middle of taking a bite, you stop. I don't, I say, oh no, I don't want to talk to me.
00:38:53.920
I have too much work to do. Come away. But she's fantastic. So St. Benedict, because of his rule,
00:39:00.700
which is, he's, he's known as the father of Western monasticism and 500s, most or religious life
00:39:10.680
pretty much comes from him, even if it's not monastic. And from his rule came many other rules,
00:39:20.160
but his rule is fantastic. And it's the whole Old Testament. It's all scripture. And it's fantastic.
00:39:27.040
If, if Mother Gertrude and others weren't here, I, I, I fail every day anyway, but I would, I would,
00:39:34.680
I don't know what I do. I want to love God. I want to keep the rule, but I really don't want to keep the
00:39:40.060
but I keep it because here I am and I I'm in vows. So this is a good thing. Um, I, some of the
00:39:48.800
priests, okay, we'll go back to our subject. They're priests. You've been ordained. You took
00:39:53.220
vows to teach the truth. You don't have a choice to be cowards. Okay. So that's how St. Francis de Sales
00:40:01.240
became my spiritual director from heaven. And I absolutely love him. And I think there's no greater
00:40:06.720
shepherd ever in the world. And if there are many books he wrote, but if you want to get a good sense
00:40:14.340
of him and his wisdom and his beauty, uh, get a book titled the spirit of St. Francis de Sales,
00:40:22.800
the spirit of St. Francis de Sales. It's written by a Bishop who was his disciple, Bishop Camus,
00:40:29.400
C-A-M-U-S and Bishop Camus couldn't believe how holy St. Francis de Sales was. So he
00:40:38.040
went below St. Francis de Sales chamber and St. Francis de Sales was alone. He drilled a hole
00:40:45.160
in the ceiling to watch him. And he, he said it was exactly the same. He's the same alone as he is
00:40:55.200
in person. Is he in his crowds? It's amazing. Just, nobody needs any other saint for the religious
00:41:05.460
life. It depends. But so, and in fact, when this began, it was at the invitation of Cardinal Raymond
00:41:13.380
Burke, who was then Archbishop of St. Louis. And the question was, if I should just start this,
00:41:20.720
I'm not foreign. I don't know what religious life is, but I'm not afraid. I'll do anything.
00:41:28.480
Or if I should learn to be religious with an order and then do this. And so,
00:41:35.440
uh, Archbishop Burke sent me to different orders. I visited several and I came back to him. And the last
00:41:42.480
one was the visitation order of Holy Mary. The last one I called, I got the phone with Superior. And I
00:41:49.620
said, my name is Rosalind Morse and I, I want to be a religious and talking about founding something
00:41:55.780
and I'm not formed. And she said, oh no, go, go ahead and do it. And I said, the problem with people
00:42:02.720
is I think I make a good impression. They don't believe me. I'm not formed. I need to be formed.
00:42:09.100
I need to be taught. I need to learn. And this, and I said that to the Superior. She said, oh no,
00:42:15.460
just do it. I said, I don't think you understand. I really, I'm not formed. I, I, and, and she said,
00:42:24.180
oh, Rosalind, God could do that in an instant. Yeah, he hasn't. It's taken years.
00:42:32.540
But I needed canonically to have a year novitiate in a cloistered order. And guess where I was?
00:42:44.700
Visitation of Holy Mary by St. Francis de Sales. A solid year. I'll tell you something a little
00:42:50.960
funny. When I went to them, I said, the Superior introduced me to the community. And I said,
00:42:56.960
you need to know three things. I don't like people. I've been a jail chap for 10 years. I teach
00:43:03.600
everything. But then I go home and shut my door. And I don't want to live with them. I, they're okay.
00:43:11.120
But I don't want to live with anybody. I said to them, secondly, I'm allergic to obedience.
00:43:17.140
And then I said, thirdly, as a cloistered order, no talking. I said, thirdly, it doesn't occur to me
00:43:26.380
not to talk. I said that to all of them. And I said, you have one year to make a religious out of
00:43:33.400
me. And you know, John Henry, to my shock, what I got first was the utter beauty and freedom of
00:43:42.500
obedience. I've been on my own since I'm 17. I haven't lived with anybody. I haven't been married.
00:43:49.700
I'm in control. Obedience? If I feel like it. No. I learned the freedom of obedience. Because when
00:43:58.360
you obey a superior, she could be wrong. She could be less spiritual. She could be a saint. Doesn't
00:44:05.040
matter. You're obeying God. Like when a child obeys his parents. A parent could be wrong. A child
00:44:11.880
doesn't obey because he's right. The child obeys because that's what the parents tell him. And if
00:44:17.560
the child is right and the parent's wrong, and the child obeys, he's right, even though the parent's
00:44:26.100
wrong. If the child is right, the parent wrong, and he doesn't obey, that he's wrong. That's the way
00:44:31.880
God set it up. And I learned it. So when I needed to, apart from sin, they never asked me to sin.
00:44:40.660
But when I knew that they weren't right, or they weren't so wise, or something wasn't so holy,
00:44:47.260
it didn't matter. If I obey, it's God forming me to trust him through others. It's an amazing,
00:44:58.480
amazing. It's an amazing thing. And I tell the sisters here, I'm not superior or whatever it is
00:45:05.600
because I'm holier. I could name some people here holier than me for sure. But that's not the point.
00:45:13.340
If I were perfect, you wouldn't be formed. Because you're not formed by my instruction alone.
00:45:19.760
If you disagree with me, if I'm my flaws and faults, and weaknesses and whatever show.
00:45:30.920
God is allowing that to form you in virtue. That's why a husband and wife.
00:45:39.460
God created marriage because there's no suffering apart from
00:45:42.480
no other way to get to heaven but suffering. And we, one man once said to me, he was in his 80s,
00:45:49.140
walking out of the church, he said, my wife is driving me up a wall. I said, she's doing her job.
00:45:55.660
Anyway, here we are, and started in 2008. And I bless God for what he said.
00:46:02.140
Just amazing. Just amazing. In our current state, Mother of the world,
00:46:08.420
I wanted to ask you, because I saw a couple of your programs, you get asked, obviously,
00:46:14.400
as many people do nowadays, about what times we're living in. I saw a recent little thing
00:46:22.800
someone wrote about the Antichrist, and you postulated whether or not the Antichrist could
00:46:27.300
be alive right now. Share with us your thoughts about where we are in terms of the world right now,
00:46:34.740
and what you feel is coming. I know you've read, as many have, you know,
00:46:40.560
the spiritual writings, St. Anne Catherine Emmerich, and others, or Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich,
00:46:45.360
and others, the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima, of La Salette, and of Akita, and so on.
00:46:52.120
What are your thoughts as to where we are right now?
00:46:54.560
Well, my first thought is that, well, the end times began with Jesus on the cross.
00:46:59.760
So we've been in the end times. Are we moving toward the end of the end times? I absolutely
00:47:06.020
believe that. Where we are at the end of the end times, I don't know. I just can't know.
00:47:14.080
I don't know that anybody can. Nobody, of course, knows the day or the hour.
00:47:18.480
But our Lord has left us a roadmap of a sort of things that have to take place.
00:47:24.980
Yes. Apostle Paul said in the book of Ephesians, after my departure, ravening wolves will enter in,
00:47:30.920
and that's 2,000 years ago, and they certainly have entered in, and as of today, have multiplied.
00:47:36.980
Peter writes about the time of apostasy, which I absolutely believe we're in. False teaching,
00:47:44.020
the abortion, that's, it's, I believe we're living in a time of apostasy. It doesn't mean that
00:47:50.420
everybody has lost the faith, but enough to completely endanger or see the destruction of
00:48:00.180
the church were it possible. It's not possible, because Jesus will lead us into all truth
00:48:05.980
till the end of time, and the gates of hell will not prevail. Didn't say they won't attack,
00:48:11.200
but they won't prevail. I do believe we're in the time of apostasy. How Pope Francis and Pope Leo are
00:48:20.580
true popes that God has allowed, I can't speculate. I can't know that. I did see your interview with
00:48:28.340
Javier, and that they are anti-popes. That's a comfort, in a sense, because the fact that true
00:48:35.120
popes would be countering the church and destroying millions of lives by teaching falsehood
00:48:43.740
is, and how's that? Because most Catholics don't know their faith. I said earlier, I came to the
00:48:50.200
church in 95 and saw then that three generations were lost to the faith. You know, when Pope Francis
00:48:56.760
teaches that you could be married and divorced with Morris Leticia and receive communion, that is
00:49:04.140
sacrilege. It's insane. No. And then he said it was magisterial teaching. And Catholics who don't
00:49:11.560
understand the true gift of infallibility and the fact that the Pope is not impeccable and not
00:49:16.980
infallible, he's a sinner like we are, and when what he says is to be obeyed and observed, most Catholics
00:49:24.280
have never been taught that. And so they think it's just fine. It's terrible. And those who come against
00:49:30.620
it are instead of a canvas, or they're just out of it. So it's tragic. But God, what I know, John Henry, I
00:49:39.160
don't know exactly where we are, because I do believe in the prophecies of the warning, yet to come, in the
00:49:46.760
three days of darkness, given, told us by Padre Pio and others, Julie Gehenny, is it? I believe a thousand years
00:49:55.040
of peace or a time of peace in Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will triumph. So I don't know the exact order
00:50:02.320
of all these things. St. Therese of Lisieux said her favorite book was a book titled The End of the
00:50:10.480
Present World, and St. Therese said it was her favorite book. It's good. And at that point, we
00:50:15.840
didn't, that he wrote it, we didn't have these apparitions yet. The apparitions tell us a lot.
00:50:20.540
I've read enough and heard enough to think it's possible he's alive on the earth today. But I think
00:50:27.280
those things, not to spread rumors, I don't know. I just say what I've heard and concluded could be
00:50:35.660
true. The thing, the most thing with me is no fear. There's just no fear. We are the most privileged
00:50:46.060
people in the world to have the faith and to have a voice, to speak the faith. We have to tell the
00:50:52.780
world. We have to tell the world and shame on us and say, I'm not an evangelist. Who cares?
00:51:00.540
God didn't make everybody an evangelist. What is an evangelist? An angel is a messenger of God.
00:51:06.780
And if you don't tell your husband and your wife and your children and your neighbors
00:51:10.460
that God came to earth to bring us to heaven, that's the least you can do. Yeah. But the last
00:51:18.380
few questions about scripture, and I don't know the answer. I'm not Protestant. Doesn't matter.
00:51:24.060
It doesn't matter. Say, I don't know. You know, the person that led my brother into the Catholic church,
00:51:29.980
my brother David has read, he's brilliant. He's two years older than I. If I live to be 500,
00:51:36.140
which I've asked God. I'll never read as much as he has. He's just very smart, fantastic mind.
00:51:44.860
And he was working at IBM and he had come to believe in Christ through the Baptist church.
00:51:51.660
But there was a fellow there named Herb. He was in Poughkeepsie, 29 years at IBM. And Herb was Catholic.
00:52:00.540
And my brother started asking him why. Why? And what about Mary? And what about this? And what about
00:52:07.260
that? And what about prayer of the saints? And this faithful, devoted Catholic man could never answer
00:52:15.500
David. He couldn't answer him. He come up with a articulate response. He couldn't come up with the
00:52:24.060
scriptures. He lived his faith. And he would say to David, David, I'm sorry, I don't know the answer.
00:52:32.780
But God is loving. And he's wise. And he can't make a mistake. And this and that. He would just
00:52:41.420
talk about who God is. And my brother David, who will not give in to emotions, was so frustrated with this
00:52:52.300
Catholic who didn't know anything. But he did, but he couldn't answer David. And David read many,
00:52:58.220
many books and talked to many intelligent, capable Catholics. But it was Herb that led David into the
00:53:06.060
Catholic faith. David wanted that faith. He wanted what he saw in Herb. An unshakable faith by a man who
00:53:16.700
couldn't give me an articulate answer. And Herb became Dave's sponsor.
00:53:21.580
Oh, wow. David's sponsor to the Catholic Church.
00:53:26.060
Yeah, just beautiful. So don't read what you know. You know, Jesus said to the disciples,
00:53:32.220
I'll tell you what to speak in that moment. Well, we're not the first 12 or 11, and we don't know
00:53:37.900
what God will do with us. It doesn't matter. If someone comes up to you and asks you about the faith,
00:53:44.460
trust that it's from God. And trust that what you have and what you don't have is what that person
00:53:53.980
needs. Invite them to church. Don't worry about it.
00:53:57.420
And finally, Mother, I wanted you to tell us about Hanukkah, because I know that you're formerly Jewish
00:54:04.140
and well, actually, you call yourself a completed Jew. So you're still sort of Jewish in that sense.
00:54:11.740
And so tell us about Hanukkah, what it means and what it means to us as Catholics as well.
00:54:16.140
You know, there's nothing that's Catholic that doesn't come from Jewish roots. Nothing. Our faith
00:54:22.860
comes from the old covenant into the new St. Augustine, what was concealed in the old is
00:54:27.740
revealed in the new. And it is Hanukkah or more literally Hanukkah, which we celebrated growing up.
00:54:37.980
And it's in John chapter 10. It's the Feast of Dedication. And the Feast of Dedication
00:54:47.900
in Hebrew, Hanukkah, happened about 200 years before Christ. And it's in the
00:54:55.180
Maccabees, Book of Maccabees, where the Jews were being slaughtered. And
00:55:04.860
Antiochus Epiphanes, Antiochus IV, who was Epiphanes, the ruler at the time, went into their temple,
00:55:16.700
destroyed the temple, destroyed the altar, and sacrificed a pig on the altar, which is very
00:55:25.260
unkosher. So no pig. And sacrificed a pig forbidden by God on that altar, destroyed the temple.
00:55:35.420
And Judas Maccabeus, a family that was very Jewish and fought Antiochus, he went into the
00:55:44.140
temple to restore. He defeated Antiochus and went to restore the temple. And he knew it would take time.
00:55:51.100
You had to consecrate the altar. But there was enough oil for only one day, and they couldn't
00:55:56.620
do it all in one day. And so they went on a journey to get new oil. Well, it took eight days
00:56:05.260
for them to get that oil and come back. No express trains or anything. They came back. But there was
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enough one day, and the oil burned for the full eight. It's a miracle. It's called the
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the miracle of Hanukkah, a miracle happened here. And so they came back with the oil enough. And
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they put a feast together, Hanukkah, the feast of dedication, the dedication of the temple
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that took eight days. And so in the normal temple in Jerusalem or any
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temple you go to that's Jewish, they have a seven-armed candelabra, six and six in the middle,
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representing seven days of creation and maybe other things. But this
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candelabra is called a menorah, and it has nine. It has one candle for each of the eight days,
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and the middle candle, which is raised up, called the shamus, meaning servant. So here's how we
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celebrate it. We do from, you know, in English we write from left to right. Hebrew is from right to left.
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And so they light the menorah from right to left. So the first day of Hanukkah, and we have prayers
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for each day, and we have songs. Beautiful. So we light, take the shamus, the service candle,
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the servant, and light the first candle. And we let it all burn down, burns down in the same night.
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The second day we put two candles in and take the servant candle and light both. They burn down
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each day until all eight are lit, which is the eight days of Hanukkah, which this year began
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on December 14th and ends on the 22nd. What does it mean for Catholics? It means that God is the God of
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miracles. The same God that created the world, Genesis 1, had the oil burned for eight days and
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and is the same God that sent his son and the Holy Spirit into us. There's nothing from the Old
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Testament. But I will say one thing. From the beginning of time, as we all know, has God said,
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come on, you can eat from that tree. Come on. And why did they eat from the tree? Because they believed the
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serpent lie that they could be like God without God. Take it. And every temptation, Jesus' three
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temptations in the wilderness when he began his public ministry is the same as the three temptations
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in the garden. The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.
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We could go through his temptations. That's what it is. Does nothing new.
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It's the same thing that he did in the garden. He tempts us with nothing is new, just our circumstances.
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And if we study that and we know it, then we say, oh, same old, same old, get out of here.
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That's the way I deal with him. Get out of here. I'm not interested. Get out of here.
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That's what I say. He understands English. He does. Get out of here. He does.
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But from the garden on, when our Lord said that through the woman, Eve, her seed would crush
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the seed of the serpent. That's the cross. It was a fatal blow. And Satan knew it. And so,
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he had to destroy Adam and Eve. He had to destroy their offspring. He had to destroy
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the building of the family through which the Messiah would come.
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And to this day, Satan's not interested in LBGTQ, same-sex marriage, which is in marriage. Not
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interested in any of that. He only wants to destroy the people of God in any way he can. Why?
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Because he can't destroy the church. But if he destroys the people of God, no vocations,
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that's a way. And so, from Adam and Eve on, he has never ceased to destroy the people of God.
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From Abraham, through Isaac, through Jacob, through Judah, through David, to the son of David, who is
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Christ. And the people God formed for himself is a whole other subject, the people of Israel.
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Israel. And God made a covenant, which will endure. It's irrevocable, Romans chapter 11,
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and will endure to the end of time. And the church is not Israel. That's a huge
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heresy. There's no replacement theology. The church is not Israel. If anyone wants to really
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understand this, I'm going to... May I give two references, John Henry? One is Roy Schoman's book.
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He was a convert from Judaism. The Blessed Mother appeared to him. If you haven't heard his story,
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you need to. It's beautiful. And the name of his book is Salvation is from the Jews.
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That's a quote from our Lord in the Gospel. Salvation is from the Jews, and he takes us from Abraham
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through the second coming. The Jews had a part in his first coming because he came through them,
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and they have a part in his second coming. And our catechism says the glorious Messiah's return
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awaits his recognition by all Israel. And it's not speaking about the church. It's speaking about his
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people who are now turned from him. They're turned from him. It's a disgrace. They've been turned to him
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through much of history. The Messiah came through them not because of their faithfulness,
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because of God's faithfulness. Why does he keep his church? Because of our faithfulness? No, no, no, no.
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Because God is faithful to build his church. And so every attempt to destroy the people of God
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is the devil's. It hasn't stopped. And we're the people of God now. So same-sex marriage,
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and they have popes, if they are popes, and all that's going on. Why God allows it, I don't know, but
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So if you're out there listening to this, I beg you, you cannot stand before God
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and give the excuse that your priest taught this, that your bishop taught this, that the pope taught
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this. No. If you can read and write, you read the scriptures, read the encyclicals of the past,
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learn your faith. My first job was when I was 17, and I was a bank teller, John Henry, in Toronto, Canada.
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My first job, I earned a huge salary of $37 a week and supported family on that. $37, our own family,
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we didn't have jobs. And we were moved to the north of Toronto because we were Jews, and they didn't
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want us. I was refused jobs in Toronto because I was Jewish. Just crazy, crazy world. And as a bank
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teller, they taught us how to know counterfeit money, because we had to know what was counterfeit.
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They taught us how to identify counterfeit money by never showing us a single counterfeit bill.
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We only studied the real thing, and we knew the real thing so well that we knew anything that wasn't it.
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Indeed. Thank you so much, Mother Miriam, for being with us. God bless you. God bless your order.
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And I pray that you flourish because you're so needed in the church today. Thank you for your
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Oh, blessed be God. I praise you. Thank you, John Henry.
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And God bless you, my friends. We'll see you next time.
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