The John-Henry Westen Show - Proof the Amazon Synod proposes apostasy

00:00:00.180 Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we're very pleased to be with Matthew Hoffman,

00:00:06.760 LifeSite's own Latin American correspondent who lives in Mexico.

00:00:10.560 It's going to be a super show where we're going to discuss the Amazon Synod, what's coming up,

00:00:15.560 what LifeSite has found out, some of the most important documentation and information you're going to hear about.

00:00:21.620 Stay tuned.

00:00:26.560 Let's start, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:00:29.200 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

00:00:35.120 Welcome, Matthew, to the show. I'm so pleased to have you on and very excited to discuss this Amazon Synod,

00:00:42.040 which is opening up very shortly.

00:00:45.300 Thank you, John Henry.

00:00:47.080 So let's get right into it.

00:00:49.220 The Amazon Synod has been talked about now for almost a year.

00:00:52.980 We've been planning, working up.

00:00:55.220 There's been a lot of alarm about it, rightful alarm from even cardinals who have called it apostasy, heresy.

00:01:03.020 First of all, tell us what you've seen and what you think about what's going on right now.

00:01:08.700 Well, in general, I think that these critiques are correct,

00:01:12.620 that the whole direction of the Synod is a direction of, we could say, apostasy, and definitely heresies.

00:01:22.140 There are various heresies that are being promoted by the theologians that are in charge of this Synod,

00:01:27.880 as it were, in charge of the documents, the preparatory documents, the working document.

00:01:34.220 They, they're definitely promoting heretical ideas. 0.99

00:01:37.220 But that word apostasy is very powerful because apostasy is more than heresy.

00:01:41.800 It's more than schism.

00:01:42.840 It is, it's the wholesale abandonment of the Christian religion. 0.98

00:01:47.440 And why would these kinds of words be used in this case?

00:01:50.960 It's not because these documents are expressly saying, let's abandon the Catholic religion.

00:01:56.660 Let's abandon Christianity, but they are seeking to displace Christian values and Christian doctrine 1.00

00:02:04.420 with a sort of eco-socialism, a sort of ecological, radical ecological socialism

00:02:11.580 that is contrary to Christianity, alien to it, and at the same time is apparently meant to replace

00:02:19.680 the spiritual focus of Christianity and focus us all on this world,

00:02:24.940 the values and goods of this world, and in a way that is just not consistent with our faith at all.

00:02:30.400 So in that sense, it's like proposing another religion.

00:02:33.860 Okay, so this new Synod is in line with the Synods we've seen before.

00:02:39.400 2014, Extraordinary Synod on the Family, then 2015 Synod on the Family,

00:02:43.340 led to the document of Moris Laetitia, which as we know has caused real havoc in the Church,

00:02:49.320 led to the Dubia, led to cardinals or many theologians calling out the post,

00:02:54.940 hope for heresy himself, and now comes, you know, this Synod, which is even more alarming, seemingly.

00:03:03.620 You mentioned the preparatory documents, the official preparatory document called the Instrumentum Laboris,

00:03:09.860 but then you mentioned other preparatory documents.

00:03:12.340 What are you talking about?

00:03:13.080 There's another one that we at LifeSite discovered, and we've published a bunch of quotes from this document

00:03:22.360 that was prepared by many of the same theologians that worked on the Instrumentum Laboris,

00:03:28.960 the preparatory document.

00:03:30.220 And this document is also meant, it's meant to be a sort of another preparatory document.

00:03:36.540 It was part of a process that these theologians went through to prepare for the Synod official process,

00:03:45.540 part of the official process.

00:03:47.140 And this document is probably more explicit than the Instrumentum Laboris

00:03:51.220 regarding what these theologians wish to do with the Synod.

00:03:56.760 And these theologians have the support of Pope Francis

00:03:59.740 and have support of the Bishops' Conference, the Latin American Bishops' Conference.

00:04:04.900 In fact, this document, which is called Towards the Amazon Synod,

00:04:09.340 it's supported by two groups.

00:04:11.760 One is called Repham, which is an organization that appears to have been created

00:04:16.460 by the bishops of Latin America, the Bishops' Conference.

00:04:21.960 Of course, that would have been done very much in coordination with the Holy See.

00:04:25.880 And there's another organization called, I believe it's called Amerindia.

00:04:31.080 That organization also created this document.

00:04:35.140 These theologians from these two organizations have created this document and are promoting it.

00:04:39.240 And in this document, they're even more explicit about an agenda that has to do

00:04:43.940 with denying the uniqueness of the Catholic faith

00:04:46.780 and claiming that the Catholic faith is not the only true religion,

00:04:53.020 that man is just one species among many, for example, they say.

00:04:56.540 So so is the Catholic religion, just one religion among many. 0.95

00:05:01.000 That that is that is simply a terrible, terrible heresy.

00:05:05.400 There's also an attack on the hierarchical priesthood.

00:05:08.320 There's also an attempt to justify the creation of priestesses or women priests or the equivalent.

00:05:16.260 And so they're much more explicit in this document.

00:05:18.520 And we published many excerpts from this document on LifeSite in the last few weeks, exposing it.

00:05:25.700 We don't know of anywhere else that's been published so far.

00:05:28.860 Right. Well, I think that's really key.

00:05:31.320 The work you and Dr. Micah Hickson did on on this, first of all, making this discovery and putting it out there is so crucial.

00:05:41.100 This document lays out.

00:05:43.180 And by the way, as you said, a Vatican recognized document, a sort of officially part still of the lead up to the Synod,

00:05:49.840 not the working document itself, the Instrumentum Laboris, but another one.

00:05:53.800 But it actually gives and here's what's key.

00:05:57.900 It gives the modus operandi.

00:06:01.040 In fact, it gives the arguments they're going to use to push these heretical ideas on the Synod fathers.

00:06:08.040 They've actually exposed their own arguments before the Synod.

00:06:10.880 And yet only LifeSite has this and it really needs to get spread further.

00:06:16.220 I agree completely.

00:06:17.900 It's certainly it's additional information that's certainly helpful, I think, in understanding what's going on here.

00:06:25.000 And as you mentioned, it includes arguments that I don't think that we would find in the Instrumentum Laboris.

00:06:32.220 For example, they actually go so far as to claim that, well, they advanced this sort of theory.

00:06:38.000 Probably other theologians have advanced it in the past in favor of this agenda.

00:06:42.000 But they have this theory that the New Testament itself sort of went off the track with regard to Christian doctrine.

00:06:48.820 It's amazing.

00:06:49.540 But it's an attack on the New Testament, claiming that originally priests were meant to be only what they would call elders,

00:06:56.520 which is ridiculous because priest is really derived from the word presbyteros, which means elder in Greek.

00:07:02.140 I don't think that they realize the irony of this.

00:07:04.460 They don't know.

00:07:05.280 They don't understand what the terms they're using.

00:07:07.000 But in any case, that this concept of a hierarchical priesthood was imposed later on as the New Testament was written.

00:07:15.340 It was imposed later as a sort of a response to certain issues that existed at that time.

00:07:19.780 But it created a distortion.

00:07:21.580 And there's not supposed to be a hierarchical priesthood.

00:07:24.240 The priesthood is not a hierarchy at all.

00:07:26.040 It's not even a priesthood, they say.

00:07:27.700 It's just elders who kind of vaguely sort of give advice to the church, that sort of thing.

00:07:34.420 And in the process, they say women were excluded.

00:07:37.340 So they have this ridiculous false history that denies that God has inspired the scripture.

00:07:43.600 I mean, really, they're criticizing God for having written these things into the scripture because God is the author of the scripture.

00:07:48.820 At least that's what we Catholics believe.

00:07:50.540 So that's just an example of the kind of material that's in here.

00:07:54.740 It's truly amazing to try and argue that Jesus was so circumscribed by the times that he lived in that he couldn't have chosen women apostles.

00:08:05.660 He couldn't have chosen his mother, for crying out loud.

00:08:09.000 The very woman, the woman, who should have been given, if anybody, if any woman was ever to be granted priesthood or anything like that, it would have been Our Lady.

00:08:19.360 And yet, because Jesus was so hemmed in by the times that he lived in, he just couldn't get there.

00:08:24.580 I mean, absolute nonsense.

00:08:26.000 This is the same Jesus who came and told the Jews that they should eat his flesh and drink his blood when they had strictures against drinking even animal blood, let alone human blood. 0.67

00:08:36.620 The same Jesus who told the Jews that they should be worshipping a triune God, that God was Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to scandalize them. 0.57

00:08:44.780 And yet we think he couldn't have done women priests if he wanted to.

00:08:49.740 Absolutely unbelievable.

00:08:51.520 Yes, it makes no sense.

00:08:53.440 I mean, the Christians were so countercultural that they were constantly being killed by the Roman state, persecuted, and they were willing to die terrible deaths in order to protect their faith.

00:09:05.980 They refused to, for example, go and participate in the gladiatorial games.

00:09:11.680 Usually they wouldn't participate in the army, not because they thought that the armed forces was wrong to have armed forces, but because of the abuses committed by the armed forces.

00:09:20.220 So they were constantly resisting the society.

00:09:22.920 Why would they conform cravenly to social standards regarding women? 0.52

00:09:30.580 It's nonsense. 1.00

00:09:31.700 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:09:32.460 Right. 0.64

00:09:33.460 Now, why the Amazon?

00:09:35.780 So here, what you've written already is that the Amazon is sort of being abused in all of this situation.

00:09:45.940 They're calling it an Amazon synod.

00:09:47.820 Why are they calling it an Amazon synod, and why do you consider it an abuse?

00:09:50.760 Well, it's been called the Amazon synod because it is supposedly there to address the particular problems of the Amazon region.

00:10:01.340 Now, we know, in fact, that it's not addressing the real problems of the Amazon region.

00:10:05.920 A bishop recently, and we publicized this on my site, we did an article on it, recently, a bishop from the Amazon region, recently declared that there are all these problems that exist that are real problems in the Amazon that aren't even being addressed by this thing.

00:10:19.480 For example, only 9% of the Amazon is indigenous, yet almost the whole of these preparatory documents is about the indigenous, as if this region is filled with indigenous.

00:10:32.700 In fact, it's mostly Latin American, non-indigenous Latin Americans of various kinds.

00:10:41.660 And there's other things they're ignoring.

00:10:43.120 For example, that there's Catholicism is almost dead in the region, apparently.

00:10:46.360 And now it's Pentecostalism, Protestant Pentecostalism, that's very big.

00:10:50.700 These documents don't even recognize these problems.

00:10:53.680 And the reason is that this is not really an attempt to address the problems, the real problems of the Amazon region.

00:10:59.320 It's there to take the Amazon region as sort of an exceptional region and then use that to experiment or to justify experimenting with, for example, a married priesthood.

00:11:12.300 That's something that subversives in the church have been trying to, I'm sorry to have to put it that way, but I don't think there's any other way to put it, have been trying to promote for decades in the church.

00:11:23.160 And they're using it for that sort of thing.

00:11:25.480 And so it will create a precedent such that the exception then can become the rule throughout the rest of the church.

00:11:33.820 That seems to be clearly the agenda here.

00:11:35.620 I mean, they're not even holding this meeting in the Amazon region.

00:11:37.880 It's being held in Rome to talk about a region and talk about it in a way that doesn't really even address its actual problems.

00:11:44.740 And that's, yeah, I think that's actually very, very interesting because, as you're saying, the faith is dying out in this region, which has already employed so many of these false theories or ways of taking the faith.

00:12:00.780 This is liberation theology, and they've been using it there and promoting it there, and it's led to this drop-off in the faith.

00:12:08.860 And it seems like they want to foist that same drop-off in true Catholicism on the rest of the world. 0.80

00:12:14.740 Absolutely.

00:12:15.880 Thank you for bringing that up because it's a really important point that, first of all, these theologians are not—we're not just saying that, oh, this is really their agenda, they're liberation theologians.

00:12:29.060 No, they say they're liberation theologians.

00:12:31.540 For example, this preparatory document towards the Amazon Synod that we publicized, that document, the authors of it expressly state that they are liberation theologians, that this is liberation theology.

00:12:44.740 Now, liberation theology has become a very big thing in the church, particularly in Brazil, in Latin America in general, but particularly in Brazil, where most of the Amazon region is found.

00:12:56.760 And in Brazil, the number of Catholics has been plummeting for decades.

00:13:01.260 I believe only 60% or less now of Brazilians say that they're Catholic.

00:13:07.840 It was well over 90% just a couple of decades ago.

00:13:10.920 And that's because as the Catholic clergy has focused more and more on political issues, converting Christianity into an ideology or Catholicism into an ideology in the minds of people, and not addressing their real problems—problems with drug addiction, problems in their families, for example, with family divisions.

00:13:32.560 Well, the Protestants come in, the evangelical Protestants come in, of various kinds, Pentecostals and other kinds, addressing these issues and talking about them and talking about people's spiritual struggles, not in a way that we as Catholics would totally agree, but they're addressing them.

00:13:47.500 And so incredible numbers of people are leaving, and that's what's happened in the Amazon region.

00:13:52.640 The majority aren't Catholic anymore.

00:13:54.400 They're going over to these Pentecostal sects, and that is not even being addressed in these documents.

00:13:59.160 Because, again, this is not about the Amazon region.

00:14:01.760 Right.

00:14:02.460 In fact, it's an abuse of the people, the faithful in the Amazon, to foist a program on the rest of the world, on the rest of the church, which has been destructive to the faithful in the Amazon region itself.

00:14:17.580 And it's just—it's a horrible thing to excuse this—what their agenda is and sort of blame it on the, you know, the Amazon region.

00:14:27.940 Oh, look, they don't have enough priests. 0.73

00:14:29.360 Oh, look, women are so—in such positions of power there that you need to have women priests represented so that you can do this. 1.00

00:14:37.900 And, of course, they're not going to make it women priests, per se.

00:14:40.920 They're going to try for women deacons as a sort of stepping stone toward women priests. 1.00

00:14:46.580 Well, yeah, they're doing two things, at least in this document that we're talking—this particular supporting document we're talking about.

00:14:53.140 One is that, as you say, they want women to be deacons.

00:14:59.000 Well, but in what sense?

00:15:01.540 There were, in the first millennium, deaconesses in the church what were called deaconesses, but they were not—it was not a sacramental grade of order.

00:15:11.160 It was a support role in the church.

00:15:12.960 It was a wonderful support role that women provided at different times in different particular circumstances, probably to baptize people in certain cases where there was full immersion.

00:15:22.100 And so a woman being baptized would be fully naked. 0.76

00:15:24.740 So perhaps the deaconess would be the one to do that, that sort of thing.

00:15:30.160 So that's what a deaconess was, but it was not a sacramental grade of order.

00:15:34.420 So, first of all, they want women deacons, but what they make clear is that they want these women to be recognized as sacramentally deacons.

00:15:43.580 And, of course, if that's the case, why couldn't they become priests?

00:15:46.960 As soon as you concede that, you would be conceding that they could become priests.

00:15:50.180 But the second thing that they do in the document is to try to attack the whole idea of a hierarchical priesthood, which they say incorporates this notion of an all-male priesthood.

00:16:00.200 And so in attacking that, they're trying to destroy the foundation for excluding women from the priesthood, which is something that's of the divine constitution of the church, as Pope John Paul II pointed out.

00:16:11.620 This is not something that the church can change.

00:16:13.560 This is not something that any law can change.

00:16:15.300 The supreme pontiff can't do it.

00:16:17.560 It's in the divine constitution of the church, that the church is patriarchal.

00:16:22.160 And they are attacking the church's patriarchal structure by attacking even the notion of a hierarchical priesthood altogether.

00:16:30.400 So, yeah, those are the two ways they're coming at this female priesthood. 1.00

00:16:34.080 And amazingly, there's a huge push for an ecological push, almost making the faith into a pursuance of some kind of ecological kind of a faith, if you will, is being pushed big time.

00:16:51.940 It was already pushed by Pope Francis in Laudato Si, much of which actually was good.

00:16:57.140 But there was this also crazed element with the, you know, the lead up, if you will, with Greta Thornburg and the whole wide world.

00:17:04.280 They just did a survey just the other day where they found that over 50% of young people in America believe the world's going to end in a decade because of the environmental disaster that we're living in, which, I mean, is such hogwash.

00:17:18.940 But yet people are believing this, and that kind of emergency sentiment is also being foisted into the Amazon Synod and right into the heart of the church.

00:17:30.300 Absolutely.

00:17:31.300 There's this kind of sense of panic that they're trying to generate, which, by the way, I used to be a public policy analyst in Washington, D.C. many years ago in the early 90s.

00:17:44.160 And the same attempts to create panic over possible global warming was going on at the time.

00:17:51.280 So this has gone on for decades.

00:17:52.820 The predictions have been false repeatedly.

00:17:55.100 They're trying to scare children, and then they're alarmed at how frightened these children are.

00:18:00.860 And as you say, it's a very questionable application of natural science.

00:18:08.440 But there's another issue that's involved with this, and that is that this sort of ecological theology, this eco-theology that they're pushing, is actually contrary to our faith because they are treating, in these documents, they're treating man as if he is a component of nature.

00:18:28.400 He's merely a cog in the machine of nature.

00:18:30.760 So man sort of exists in a certain way to serve nature, and the greater entity of which we are a part is more important than us, more important than we are.

00:18:41.880 But in reality, the Christian faith teaches us in Genesis that God made the physical world for man, for his use.

00:18:50.440 Be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth, subdue it.

00:18:54.800 That's the language that's used in the Scripture, to subdue the earth.

00:18:57.640 Now, that's not an abusive kind of subduing.

00:19:00.860 We're not to go out and harm it, obviously, and of course it has its own principles that we have to respect so that we don't do harm to it.

00:19:08.360 But we are not at the service of nature.

00:19:11.220 It is at the service of us.

00:19:12.580 So this is a full frontal attack on our faith.

00:19:16.340 It, in effect, would constitute another religion if we were to accept this.

00:19:20.440 And, in fact, that seems to be what these people are.

00:19:23.000 It certainly is what they're pushing in the preparatory document that we're talking about that was made as part of this process that these theologians that are so involved in this Synod are pushing.

00:19:32.920 Absolutely.

00:19:34.760 It is.

00:19:35.500 And it fits in exactly with what we've seen the Vatican doing.

00:19:39.420 The Vatican has seemed to have accepted hook, line, and sinker everything that the Church fought, especially under John Paul II.

00:19:47.360 John Paul II, at the United Nations, invited pro-lifers in to fight for the cause of life and family against the population controllers.

00:19:58.060 And yet, since Pope Francis' pontificate, all the population controllers, including Paul Ehrlich, the father of it himself, have come to speak at the Vatican over and over and over again,

00:20:09.500 such that even the bishop who heads it up, Bishop Sarando, has hook, line, and sinker proclaimed in one of those meetings that, you know, it's part of, he said, Catholic teaching.

00:20:22.980 That we should have education for women so that women have one or two children and not seven. 0.99

00:20:29.920 He sort of like imbibing the whole population control agenda that they've connected to the ecological agenda right into the heart of the Church, falsely making it a false religion.

00:20:40.280 That definitely so, and it's really important that you bring this up, that this is very much connected.

00:20:48.520 Once we can see the relationship, once we start to say that man is a component of nature, he really exists to serve it, he's one species among many, the greater entity really is nature.

00:21:01.840 It's almost like a sort of a pantheism, right?

00:21:04.520 Materialists tend towards a pantheistic worldview in which man is made simply into a component of the greater whole, and this greater whole functions like a deity.

00:21:13.600 So what does this mean?

00:21:14.660 Well, if the greater whole is being threatened by one of the parts, you excise the parts.

00:21:19.060 And so what do you do?

00:21:20.180 Well, you eliminate human beings.

00:21:22.500 Human beings are seen as sort of just a dispensable component.

00:21:25.140 They're not the whole purpose of the thing.

00:21:28.200 They are just a component of it.

00:21:29.520 So we're talking about contraception, population control in general, and specifically also, of course, abortion.

00:21:37.320 The logic of abortion is involved in all of this.

00:21:39.420 So the anti-family agenda is obviously implicit here, if it's not always explicit.

00:21:48.060 And it's very dangerous in that respect as well.

00:21:51.460 Absolutely.

00:21:52.040 And this agenda has been at work in the world for a long time, but it's now in the heart of the church.

00:21:58.020 That's the scary part.

00:21:58.840 I mean, we've seen, you know, for decades and decades already, this, you know, environmental disaster is coming.

00:22:05.060 Like every huge epic film from Hollywood is about the end of the world caused by ecological disaster because we're not paying attention to the greenhouse gases and so on and so forth.

00:22:16.440 And the world's going to end.

00:22:17.380 There's going to be huge tsunamis and everything like that forever.

00:22:20.280 But now this same kind of alarmism, Chicken Little, is being brought into the heart of the church.

00:22:26.820 And that's what's so alarming.

00:22:27.940 I think Chicken Little is actually a really good example when we look at Greta Thornburg and what's going on here. 1.00

00:22:32.460 Where the chicken little story about bringing, you know, the littlest or the weakest of the chickens up to, you know, call alarm, alarm, oh, look what's going on.

00:22:42.480 And the wolf is looking to eat all the chickens that are going out of the safety.

00:22:46.980 It's where we're actually leading not only the whole society, which has been going on through the films and such, but now the church, too, being led out of the safety of the arms of Christ, the truth of Christ, into what is really a false religion.

00:23:02.900 Definitely so. And it functions in two ways.

00:23:07.740 One, of course, it just displaces the truth about our relationship with nature with an erroneous understanding.

00:23:14.120 But it also turns people's attention away from the much deeper concerns of human existence.

00:23:21.540 Of course, we should be concerned about caring for our environment, caring for the physical world that God gave us.

00:23:29.480 Absolutely. Everybody agrees with that, though.

00:23:32.500 But what they want us to do is to be so focused on that that we forget about these other issues.

00:23:38.780 At least that's been the agenda of liberation theologians and other ideologically motivated groups typically associated with leftism in the church.

00:23:48.680 They have sought to take our attention away from issues of sexual morality, the family, life, and focus us on secondary issues.

00:24:01.440 I mean, without life, we don't we don't have the right to life without the without the respect for every individual human life, because every every human being is a we're not a cell in an organism merely.

00:24:12.460 We have a unique immortal soul that God created for eternity with him.

00:24:19.040 They they want to take us away from that spiritual struggle, that struggle to overcome sin and to be saved.

00:24:25.560 Right. If the sanctification holiness and focus us on the practical problems of the physical world.

00:24:31.660 And that that that that dovetails very well with a socialistic agenda, sort of neo-Marxist socialist agenda that's represented by much of this liberation theology and this sort of eco theology, as they call it, that also is collectivist, making man a component of something else of nature.

00:24:48.240 It all fits into that. And it's very de-spiritualizing.

00:24:52.100 Right. Now, what about Pope Francis?

00:24:54.140 The the pope is supposed to be the guarantor, the defender of the faith.

00:24:57.900 What have you seen in your research about Pope Francis and his involvement in this agenda, in this Amazon synod agenda and the agenda of the the liberation theologians that have that have foisted this?

00:25:12.840 Well, I didn't do I didn't for this particular document and coverage of it.

00:25:17.380 I did not look much into Pope Francis's own role.

00:25:21.480 I think it's clear, though, that he's favoring all of this.

00:25:24.620 He knows what's happening and from his statements in general that he's made repeatedly in public about these kinds of issues with Vladal Tosi and with with his statements favoring liberation theologians specifically.

00:25:38.720 He once even accepted a hammersickle crucifix from Avril Morales, didn't seem to think there was anything anything problematical about that.

00:25:50.520 When we look at his general record, I don't think that there's any question that Pope Francis is the main impetus behind all of this.

00:25:59.520 Obviously, he called for the Senate. He knows who's who's participating.

00:26:02.780 And it's it's sad to have to say this, but but Pope Francis is is is himself promoting this.

00:26:09.380 And I think he understands how grave it is.

00:26:12.800 And he's heard the words of so many cardinals now, Cardinal Brandmuller, Cardinal Serra, Cardinal Burke and others.

00:26:23.880 He's he's he's heard so many people raising their voices on this on this on this point and talking about how dire this is, that he's quite aware that that that this issue, it raises the possibility even of schism.

00:26:37.980 And he's actually starting to speak about that.

00:26:40.040 So he knows how dire the situation is and and he's continuing forth forward with that.

00:26:47.060 He's going forward with it.

00:26:48.040 So it's it's a very, very grave problem that sadly is coming from the top, something that you and I don't like to have to say.

00:26:54.680 We don't wish to have to say this, but it is coming from from the Supreme Pot of himself at this point.

00:27:02.040 Does that mean that this is something willed by God?

00:27:04.620 God, as the First Vatican Council says, truth does not contradict truth.

00:27:10.040 The church cannot contradict itself in its dogmas and the pope cannot create a new religion that is simply not within his purview.

00:27:16.660 It's not within his power.

00:27:18.240 And so we we know what our faith is and we know when we have to say simply to the sort of thing.

00:27:23.560 No, no, your holiness.

00:27:24.860 But we cannot do this.

00:27:27.100 Right.

00:27:27.540 And what is the I mean, your this hasn't led you at all to question your faith.

00:27:34.120 We would die for this faith.

00:27:36.120 Stick with it through thick and thin.

00:27:38.120 And this might even be the worst, at least in terms of the spiritual realities of what's going on right now, might even be the worst thing the churches have experienced.

00:27:47.680 But it should in no way lead anyone to leave the one true faith.

00:27:54.040 Absolutely not.

00:27:55.120 We've we've we've always known that popes are capable of erring.

00:27:59.200 There was there was Pope Pope Honorius, who was actually condemned, expressly condemned for favoring heresy by three ecumenical councils.

00:28:10.540 The church has always understood that this sort of thing can can can happen, that that popes can err.

00:28:18.300 But it's never been this bad.

00:28:20.260 It's never happened.

00:28:21.880 This this has never been such an intense problem as it has been in this papacy.

00:28:26.040 This this really is unprecedented.

00:28:27.620 But we should have confidence in our Lord Jesus Christ.

00:28:31.320 And this is a wonderful opportunity, John Henry.

00:28:34.100 I really think that we need to emphasize this.

00:28:36.620 It's a wonderful opportunity for people to become aware of their personal responsibility to know the faith and not simply to to to to listen to to whatever the clergy happens to be saying today.

00:28:48.880 As if the Catholic church, the Catholic faith could change from one moment to the next.

00:28:53.380 They need to know what their faith is.

00:28:55.120 And we need to get away from what really is a clericalism. 0.77

00:28:58.600 And on that point, Pope Francis actually happens to be right.

00:29:01.340 I don't think he's speaking of clericalism in the same way.

00:29:03.940 But there really is a clericalism or there has been in the church in which people think that the clergy simply can be trusted to say the truth no matter what.

00:29:13.940 In every circumstance, we don't have to know our faith.

00:29:16.040 We simply listen to whatever they happen to be saying today.

00:29:19.640 That's not a real Christian faith. 0.88

00:29:21.780 That's not a true faith.

00:29:23.700 We need to know what the church has historically taught.

00:29:26.680 And that way we can interpret what our clergy is saying to us.

00:29:31.360 But so there's all sorts of good and healthy things that can come out of this.

00:29:34.820 God will use this for a greater good and no one should despair of their faith.

00:29:38.340 Christ made his promises.

00:29:39.820 The rock will not break.

00:29:41.060 It will be here until the end of time.

00:29:42.920 The church will remain and it will remain ultimately inviolate.

00:29:48.660 And so we can have that confidence and use this as an opportunity to learn our faith better so that we can resist error.

00:29:56.640 Amen.

00:29:57.720 Amen.

00:29:58.360 Well, Matthew Hoffman from LifeSite News, our Latin American correspondent, thank you for being with us today on the John Henry Weston Show.

00:30:04.700 And may God bless you all.

00:30:06.560 Although he said to me, the church is here for you.

00:30:08.780 See you all.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - October 01, 2019

Proof the Amazon Synod proposes apostasy

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