The John-Henry Westen Show - 'Psychological warfare'： Jailed anti-lockdown activist exposes Australian COVID tyranny

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, which you are definitely

00:00:03.540 going to want to stick around for. We have with us the great Australian hero, Monica

00:00:08.920 Smith, freshly out of jail. And as you know, you might have seen her show, this show I

00:00:15.120 did with her parents while she was in prison. And just, she's been one of the great heroes

00:00:20.460 in Australia fighting against the COVID madness. And we're going to talk to her about Australia,

00:00:25.740 that what's going on there is just absolutely unbelievable. I know many of you are looking

00:00:31.040 at Australia with horror in your eyes, figuring we're on the same trajectory. We're going to find

00:00:34.920 out from Monica what's going on there in detail, but also how she maintains hope. Stay tuned.

00:00:55.740 Monica Smith, so good to be with you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited

00:01:03.520 to be on your show. Well, let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross. In the

00:01:07.900 name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. So Monica, I just last week

00:01:16.080 spoke with your parents while you were in jail still. And right after the interview, actually,

00:01:20.760 we got the awesome news that you had been released on bail. Maybe you can start with

00:01:25.460 that. What happened? You were arrested. How'd you get there? And what were things like in

00:01:31.280 jail? Incitement is something that the Australian government and police have actually been using

00:01:37.780 since the beginning of COVID to basically squash any influencers' platforms and people organizing

00:01:44.620 what they consider illegal protests and things like that. So it was shocking to me when I got

00:01:50.060 arrested. But also, it also wasn't shocking because I'd seen it happen to a lot of other

00:01:55.340 people. Of course, I was trying to avoid it. But my platform was getting bigger and bigger.

00:02:01.200 So I kind of was just waiting for that to happen in some ways. So when I got arrested, I was pretty

00:02:06.440 calm. I never got angry or anything like that. I just kind of let it play out. Obviously, it was

00:02:13.100 pretty confronting, you know, seeing my name signature next to prisoner, you know, but that was

00:02:19.600 that was fine. You know, there was a slight moment where I thought I might get out on bail. But that

00:02:26.820 that dream was squashed very quickly when we had the bail hearing. And the first condition of the bail

00:02:33.280 was that I had a curfew from 7pm to 6am, regardless of the chief health officer directions, which in

00:02:41.540 Victoria, right now we we have a curfew that is applied to the whole state. But I wanted to submit

00:02:48.300 would have my own curfew. And it would it would go all the all the way till my trial, which could be a

00:02:54.280 year and a half 7pm to 6am every day. So as soon as I saw that condition, I was never going to sign

00:02:59.940 those bail conditions. But secondly, the really scary conditions were were that I was not able to

00:03:06.820 incite opposition to the Cho directions, that's chief health officer direction. So there's a very

00:03:13.420 big difference between inciting someone to break the Cho directions or inciting opposition. So

00:03:19.960 basically, if I had signed that bail condition, it would have meant that, you know what, government

00:03:25.140 and police, it's okay to put bail conditions that limit someone's opinion and their ability to for

00:03:31.500 freedom of speech. So there was there was no way I was ever going to sign that. But also, they wanted

00:03:36.660 me to delete past posts on my websites that incited opposition to the Cho directions, which by the way,

00:03:44.020 most of my website does, because I am the vice president of a newly formed political party.

00:03:49.780 If I wasn't opposing the current government, I wouldn't be doing a very good job. So basically,

00:03:54.520 my whole business, the political party, everything would have shut down, I have seven staff members,

00:04:00.880 it would have decimated their livelihoods. So there was no way I was going to sign those bail

00:04:04.860 conditions. They made it really easy for me to say no. So I was kind of thankful for that, because

00:04:09.260 I was able to make that stand. Before I knew it, I was in a prison transport truck. And I was just,

00:04:16.080 that was the only moment I let myself cry for a little bit. And because crying takes a lot of

00:04:21.900 energy. And I just figured that there's no point. But in that moment, I was on the way to the prison.

00:04:26.300 And I was like, Oh, my goodness, have I really done this? You're going to prison? What's going to

00:04:32.820 happen? Are you crazy? And I just kept saying to God, please don't let this be in vain. Just just make 1.00

00:04:39.500 it mean something. Please make it mean something I'm and I kept reassuring myself that I wasn't doing it

00:04:45.660 for me, I was doing it for Australia to make a stand for God, you know, like it wasn't. I was

00:04:52.540 trying to make sure it wasn't a prideful thing, because it was it's easy to do that in this

00:04:57.520 situation, because I already had a decent profile at that point. So I did have a feeling that it would

00:05:03.220 have an impact. So I just kept telling myself that I'm doing it for the right reasons, not because I'm

00:05:08.220 just arrogant or like a spoiled brat or anything like that. So then I was in jail. I was in isolation.

00:05:14.960 The entire time 22 days, because I didn't want to take a COVID test because I don't I don't think

00:05:23.120 they're accurate. And they're a part of the problem. So I didn't take the test. So I was in a three and a

00:05:28.400 half meter by three meter cell for for 22 days. And to be honest, the way that I got through it

00:05:35.320 mentally is I just chose to look at it as as a as a rest. I was working really hard before that. And I

00:05:43.740 was, you know, in some really bad habits of just like working 1214 hour days and thinking that,

00:05:49.200 you know, the Australian fight is all on my shoulders. And I really needed a break. And I

00:05:53.800 think God was like, well, you need to go to prison for that, because you're not taking a break. So it

00:05:59.100 was a very shocking thing. And, and I kept saying to myself, well, I really needed a break. It's not

00:06:04.480 really my choice of location. But but I'll take it anyway. And, you know, I've stayed in worst

00:06:10.860 hostels around the world. So I figured, I'll just pretend I'm on a holiday. And I just can't leave

00:06:17.420 this room, but that's okay. And I just made the most of it. I, I fasted, I exercised, I wrote a

00:06:25.040 book, actually, so that will be coming out. And I tried to have routine in prison. And the prison

00:06:31.140 staff were fantastic. So I'm really blessed about that. There was some people in there that were on my

00:06:36.500 side and were, you know, giving me extra little things and, and the staff, the staff were fantastic.

00:06:41.340 So that I'm really blessed about that. And yeah, that's pretty much the story. I'll tell you about

00:06:46.540 getting out. I mean, on so on Wednesday, basically, 10 out of the 15 bail conditions were wiped by

00:06:53.200 so we appealed to the Supreme Court, which is where precedences can be made, which is a really good

00:06:59.760 thing that we got to that point. And the only bail conditions I have a very basic, just basically

00:07:06.340 follow the law and don't incite people to break the Cho directions, which I was already trying not to

00:07:13.840 do. So, so it's totally fine. And after about three days after my hearing, someone else got arrested

00:07:22.500 for the same thing. And they got the same bail conditions as me without having to go to jail

00:07:26.960 for 22 days. So it has set some sort of standard. And so that's really exciting. Although I don't think

00:07:33.560 I should be have any bail conditions because I'm not a criminal, but we are fighting a fight here.

00:07:38.140 And we have a big legal legal battle ahead of us to set a precedence that they cannot criminalize

00:07:45.420 a finable offense. So basically, if the audience can think of it this way, if you tell your friend,

00:07:52.180 oh, just park in that no parking spot, because it's closer to the shops that we're going to.

00:07:56.580 That is the same thing that I'm basically being charged with, because I'm being charged with

00:08:00.980 inciting people to break the Cho directions, which is only a finable offense. It's not a jailable

00:08:06.500 offense. So I've already had a bigger punishment than the crime itself. If I was to actually plead

00:08:12.900 guilty, I would get a fine and get to go home. So it's, it's, the government has found a loophole

00:08:17.820 in the system, and we need to close that loophole. And that's what my case is planning to do.

00:08:23.420 In addition to setting a precedent so that others aren't persecuted, it got you your holiday.

00:08:28.380 And yeah, I have a fresh, fresh new look on life. It's, it's what I needed.

00:08:35.360 Well, very good. That's how all things work for good for those who love him. Just, just amazing.

00:08:41.460 Basically, the government in Australia, and particularly what we've seen in video coverage

00:08:46.940 of what's going on there has been brutal. We have watched police shoot innocent people,

00:08:55.040 women, even children with rubber bullets. We've seen them take people to the ground in ways that 0.99

00:08:59.500 are almost indescribable. It's very, you look, you feel like you're looking at a communist country

00:09:05.820 or Nazi Germany. It's that, it's that bad. But this is the same kind of treatment that you received

00:09:13.160 in terms of its vehemence, its readiness to strip people of all their rights and just treat them like 0.82

00:09:20.940 cattle. In the face of that kind of insanity, which you see all around you, how do you maintain hope?

00:09:31.500 You're, you're a very happy, hopeful person yet in a country where, and just having experienced a crush

00:09:38.740 on freedom and yet you're hopeful. Where does that come from?

00:09:43.760 Obviously I have some sort of gift to be hopeful, even in the face of craziness. Um, but to be honest,

00:09:51.900 I play quite a few mind tricks with myself and I just look for the positive in everything. And also,

00:09:59.020 although I haven't been a leader for very long, for some reason, it, it seems to come naturally to me.

00:10:05.260 And what I realized is that no one wants to follow a leader that's depressed and can't see us winning.

00:10:12.100 Um, they, they, people need at least me to be positive, even if I'm faking it once in a while.

00:10:19.120 And I, and I find that that works really well because if I can't be positive, then the people watching me

00:10:23.700 can't be. And also what I think is we're in a psychological warfare and especially in Melbourne, Australia

00:10:29.680 in general, um, they're trying to break our will, our soul, our spirit that, um, once you break the mind,

00:10:36.580 then you've basically won. So what I see is even if you have to play mind tricks, you have to say,

00:10:43.280 stay strong and not feel defeated because then we're surely going to lose. And it's like, if you,

00:10:49.220 if you're fighting with a sword, you need a sword to fight the sword. They're fighting with us

00:10:53.100 psychologically. So we need to fight back psychologically. And I think that collective

00:10:57.960 courage of conviction is, is going to be what wins this battle. And our self-respect is so important

00:11:03.480 so that we fight for what we believe in. And it's just so important to just stay positive. Now in

00:11:09.340 saying that, trust me, I get down sometimes and it does feel overwhelming. Then I take a day. I feel

00:11:15.380 depressed for a day. I don't make a video. Then the next day I wake up and I'm ready to go. Um, the second

00:11:21.240 thing is, well, third or fourth, I don't know, but, um, it's also taking that negative, um, emotions,

00:11:28.760 the anger or any, any of those emotions and trying to transport them into action. So solutions. So

00:11:35.140 if you're angry, email your local member of parliament, um, uh, do a video online to tell

00:11:40.780 your friends how you feel, um, or do something charitable for someone. And it's just like, um,

00:11:45.700 taking those emotions, transporting them into something else. And you're always going to feel

00:11:49.820 better after that, any type of action. So with my platform, that's what I do. I provide ideas,

00:11:55.540 campaigns, um, things for people to do like, Hey, why don't you talk to your neighbors today

00:11:59.600 and tell them how you think about this or whatever it's yeah. It's, it's, it's a, it's a mental

00:12:04.280 gymnastics to stay positive in the face of this. But I think, um, we have to it. Cause if we aren't

00:12:11.640 positive, if you aren't as a leader as well, and your followers, then how are we going to influence

00:12:16.520 other people to wake up to anything? No, one's going to want to listen to you. If you're sulking

00:12:22.180 and crying and depressed, not saying that there's, there's not, there's obviously a time for that,

00:12:26.640 but if you want to influence people, you just have to be positive.

00:12:30.540 Tell us from on the ground in Australia, what is happening there? Um, you know, we're seeing the

00:12:37.020 reports, we're seeing a few things, but in the mainstream media, anyway, it is totally restricted.

00:12:41.760 We almost see nothing. Describe for us, if you will, what's really happening on the ground.

00:12:46.480 Look, it is unfortunately as bad as what you've been seeing in all, in the alternative media.

00:12:51.300 Um, and I've seen, you know, five foot, nothing business owners, women crying that they've lost 1.00

00:12:58.020 their business and then just getting arrested for it. Um, you know, I've, I've seen it all. Um,

00:13:03.200 obviously what I've been through myself, but, um, basically what I think it is, is a premier,

00:13:08.960 especially is he is a point blank tyrant. He's a dictator. He's a narcissist, et cetera. So people like 0.70

00:13:18.500 that, they don't negotiate with people that are trying to fight back against them. They just double

00:13:23.880 down. They just double down. And of course they're using public health as a, as a reason and excuse

00:13:30.260 to do that. I, um, there was one protest where, uh, they started using the rubber bullets and the, um,

00:13:36.980 the tear gas bullets. And, and, um, the next day I, I, I was really, um, disgruntled. Okay. I was

00:13:45.760 quite emotional because I feel like these protesters are my family, you know, my people

00:13:50.840 in a way. And, and I thought, Oh my goodness, someone's going to get, someone's going to die

00:13:55.560 if this keeps happening, whether it's a police officer or a person or a protester. So I went to

00:14:01.300 the police station. I tried to reason with them. I have a liaison within the, within the police force.

00:14:05.740 And I called her and I said, please, we have to negotiate. Please just give us, give us one day

00:14:11.520 a month where we can walk the streets and practice our human rights of, of protesting. And she said,

00:14:17.340 well, but what, we're in lockdown. And I'm like, well, yeah, yeah, I know. But like the movement's

00:14:22.600 getting bigger and bigger and bigger, please. We have to do something. She's like, no, we're in

00:14:26.000 lockdown. And I was like, I was like, so there's no negotiation. She's like, no. And I'm like, so you're

00:14:31.020 telling me that because of COVID our human rights can be suspended full stop. There's no

00:14:34.920 negotiation. She's like, that's correct. I was like, well, where do you go from there?

00:14:39.940 That there's nowhere to negotiate. So they absolutely wholeheartedly believe that our

00:14:45.420 human rights are in just like, they can just stop them. So this is a problem. And since then,

00:14:51.600 that was before I went into prison, it's just gotten worse and worse and worse. So again,

00:14:57.520 I just have to be hopeful, but it is like a war zone in those, in those protests. It's absolutely

00:15:02.100 a war zone. I don't know what's going to happen. One of the beautiful things you said

00:15:05.760 was, uh, God is on our side. And I think, uh, that a engendered a lot of support and B told

00:15:14.800 them this is ultimately what this is about. This is this, because it's global, um, because

00:15:21.800 it is obviously agenda driven because it's not based on health, even though that's the

00:15:25.560 excuse. Um, it is, uh, a nefarious agenda that's happening everywhere. But with Australia,

00:15:32.640 it seems to be the tip of the spear that they're sort of pushing the envelope there more than

00:15:37.300 anywhere else and doing it in such a fashion that even what we do see is it's, it's incredible

00:15:44.080 to see what's going on there. That's why your story is so fascinating. Uh, you know, you're

00:15:49.120 a young person, you are vibrant, you're ready to battle this in, in a way that's so encouraging

00:15:55.400 for people. And, uh, you know, your clips, your encouragement to others has been incredible.

00:16:03.220 One of the last things I wanted to ask you about was you've got all of these groups around

00:16:08.980 Australia, which you sort of corral together that are working together. And I think that's

00:16:14.580 an essential model for the various countries that are fighting this, all the countries of

00:16:19.840 the world. Tell us a little bit about how you got there and what you do with them.

00:16:25.560 And on a side note, if there is someone passionate enough to replicate anything that I'm doing

00:16:30.440 in America, I'd be happy to assist them. Okay. So the community groups, yeah, we have almost

00:16:35.000 100 groups around Australia. Um, how I did that? Well, to be honest, it takes a lot of administration.

00:16:40.580 So quite frankly, you do need staff members. Okay. Basically I asked people to put their

00:16:46.400 hand up to be a leader. Um, and then I used my database. I can segregate my database into

00:16:51.740 location, um, post postcode zip code. Um, and then they would have a, an event at a park and

00:16:58.060 I would let everyone know in the area that there was this event. I promote, promote it once

00:17:02.560 or twice. And then they have that they have 30 people show up. It's, it's incredible. Um, so

00:17:07.440 you need to have a database with, uh, you know, that's quite well, um, put together. So, but

00:17:12.940 this took a year to, to build this database. And then I was able to put the community groups

00:17:17.340 in place. You don't need a hundred though. Five community groups is amazing because what

00:17:22.020 I realized is everything, especially in Victoria, they're trying to, everything that makes us

00:17:27.160 stronger and better people has been taken away from us. So church, um, exercise, um, psychology,

00:17:33.980 community, uh, community gathering, school, et cetera, et cetera. But the bottle shops are open

00:17:38.340 and everything that's anti-health is open. So having these community groups, um, it empowers

00:17:43.260 people because they find people that are like them and who knows what that's going to create.

00:17:48.900 Like who knows how, what, what strength is going to come out of that one person in that group,

00:17:53.920 because they've been inspired by the group. Um, on top of that, you've got the mental, um,

00:17:58.140 stability of being within a community group. And some of them have plans. If, if, you know,

00:18:02.820 if things go to, uh, go really bad and, uh, you know, there's food shortages or anything like

00:18:07.480 that, they've got exit plans, you know, so there could be little communes all over Australia because

00:18:12.200 of these groups. So it's really important to empower each other. So does that answer your

00:18:16.900 question of, of, of what that's about and how I created it? Absolutely. And we do need people to

00:18:22.520 emulate your example and, and start these groups all over. I know there are some already, but, uh,

00:18:27.960 very, very important. It's key to a survival, if you will, but also to conquering this beast in the

00:18:34.580 end. So Monica, any, any parting thoughts for all of us here, uh, in America and for all of our

00:18:40.200 LifeSite News audience who, uh, is newly following, you know, we're all born with different abilities

00:18:45.160 and characteristics, of course. So, um, we all have different things that we can do to, um, contribute

00:18:50.880 to this global battle, um, for freedom and for good. Um, I was, I was blessed to be able to make

00:18:57.280 a big stand, a public stand, but that's because I don't have children and I didn't have a job that

00:19:01.780 I needed to be there for. And my family are supportive. So I was able to do that, but we all

00:19:07.220 can do more in our own states of life and it can be a very small thing, but I think we all have more

00:19:13.040 strength than we think we do. And I haven't always been like this. I had to work really hard on it.

00:19:17.800 And what I'm, what I'm hoping that my sacrifice will do is inspire people to find a little bit

00:19:23.400 more of their own strength that's already in there, but they just need to start practicing

00:19:27.080 using it, or maybe they've been waiting for a, um, an excuse to cross that line and stand up and

00:19:33.420 tell people how they feel. And hopefully maybe my influence is something to do with that. And if we,

00:19:38.100 if we do practice our strength, we will be such happy, so much, so much happier and so much more

00:19:44.320 fulfilled when we're actually doing what we know we're capable of, because I feel like

00:19:48.640 deep down, we all know what we can kind of do, but we're kind of scared to do it because it might

00:19:53.700 take time. And I think as Catholics, it's our duty to listen to that conscience, which is God

00:19:58.940 obviously talking to us saying, Hey, you can do more. You can do more. If you don't listen to that

00:20:02.940 voice, you're never really going to be fully fulfilled. And I would like everyone to feel the

00:20:07.980 way that I felt in prison, which was totally at peace because I knew that I had done the right

00:20:13.320 thing. And I knew that it was for God. And I knew that it was, um, through him that I was able to do

00:20:17.580 it. So I just, I want people to reach in, find a little bit more of their inner strength and start

00:20:23.100 practicing how to use it because we're going to need it. It's crunch time soon and we need every

00:20:27.740 single person. So that's my last comment. That is awesome. Monica, Godspeed. God bless you.

00:20:34.860 Thank you for joining us on the John Herb-Weston show. And, uh, I hope we can have you on again soon.

00:20:40.100 Definitely. Thank you for having me. And God bless all of you.

00:20:42.860 We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - September 30, 2021

'Psychological warfare'： Jailed anti-lockdown activist exposes Australian COVID tyranny

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