The John-Henry Westen Show - Ripping the mask off the Democratic Party's 'woke Christianity'

00:00:00.280 Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where I'm going to be speaking

00:00:03.740 with someone very fascinating.

00:00:05.080 His name is Dr. Frank Turek.

00:00:06.400 He's a dynamic speaker, an award-winning author, and co-author of four books, Combating Atheism.

00:00:12.200 He is president of crossexamine.org.

00:00:14.380 But what I find most impressive about Dr. Turek are his powerful presentation at college

00:00:19.280 campuses, where he defends Christianity against all comers, from atheists to agnostics.

00:00:24.280 He does it with vim and with vigor and with a lot of wit.

00:00:27.120 But what he's written about recently is very fascinating.

00:00:31.800 He's written about how the left is now using religion.

00:00:36.040 They're talking about Biden's devout faith.

00:00:38.840 It's a deliberate plan to quickly advance the progressive and socialist agenda in America

00:00:44.900 via religion, specifically Christianity.

00:00:48.780 You're going to want to stay tuned.

00:00:57.120 Dr. Frank Turek, thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:01:13.100 John Henry, my pleasure.

00:01:14.360 Thanks for having me.

00:01:16.260 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:01:18.920 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

00:01:21.620 Amen.

00:01:22.820 So, Dr. Frank Turek, you've got a real heart for atheists. 0.96

00:01:27.660 You've written several books addressing atheists.

00:01:30.420 We show this awesome clip of yours of addressing a young man who was really questioning your heart,

00:01:36.620 and your answers were just stellar.

00:01:38.620 What really drives you to have a heart for conversion, a heart for getting to the truth,

00:01:44.380 especially to people who seem to be so far from the truth?

00:01:47.340 Well, as you know, John Henry, the Lord gave us the Great Commission to baptize nations

00:01:55.060 in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

00:01:58.580 And so, we are all tasked as Christians to bring that truth to everyone,

00:02:04.040 regardless of where they are in their spiritual walk.

00:02:09.200 Now, when I'm on a college campus or in a debate and somebody gets up for Q&A,

00:02:13.440 I'm not expecting them to agree with me.

00:02:16.040 And why should I expect them to agree with me?

00:02:18.280 Look, I didn't agree with my own thoughts, you know, 30 years ago.

00:02:21.480 I didn't agree with myself, my current self, 30 years ago.

00:02:24.940 So, why would I expect somebody who is on a college campus to agree with everything I say?

00:02:31.100 They shouldn't.

00:02:31.760 So, when someone comes up and even asks a hostile question,

00:02:35.420 I just want to figure out why they believe what they believe and why,

00:02:40.060 and then ask them some questions about that and then offer the Christian point of view.

00:02:45.000 So, I don't take offense when people don't agree with me.

00:02:47.960 As they say, I didn't even agree with me many years ago.

00:02:50.740 Well, you have a very particular gift for doing just that, reaching hearts and minds

00:02:55.920 in a way that really I haven't seen many people be able to.

00:02:59.420 I wanted to talk to you, especially today, about something that I've seen you've written

00:03:05.520 about, and it's about this new approach to Christianity that's being pushed, especially

00:03:12.440 by the Democratic left.

00:03:13.660 What can you tell us?

00:03:15.160 Yes.

00:03:15.640 Well, if you notice, when Amy Coney Barrett was going up for a court position, this is

00:03:23.020 even before the Supreme Court confirmation hearing, it was a previous hearing, the senator

00:03:29.160 from California, Dianne Feinstein, knowing she was a pro-life Catholic and really believed

00:03:35.780 it, said to Amy Coney Barrett, the dogma lives loud in you.

00:03:41.060 It was a very negative way of addressing her.

00:03:44.140 However, when Joe Biden becomes president, the left treats him as a devout Catholic, even

00:03:49.860 though he does not agree, at least when it comes to policy, with the Catholic Church,

00:03:56.240 with the scriptures, or even with natural law on the issue of life, the issue of abortion.

00:04:01.560 You know, he tried to take a middle-of-the-road view before as a Roman Catholic saying, well,

00:04:07.080 you know, I'm personally opposed, but I can't impose that view on others.

00:04:09.960 Now he's dispensed with that, and he actually wants the government to pay for abortion.

00:04:15.400 And yet the media is lauding this as Joe Biden being a devout Catholic.

00:04:23.000 Yeah, they'll laud somebody who doesn't agree with the Catholic Church and call that person

00:04:27.400 a devout Catholic.

00:04:28.260 But if somebody does, like Amy Coney Barrett, they're going to say, oh, the dogma lives loud

00:04:32.760 in her.

00:04:33.080 And I think, John Henry, the reason for this is in the midterm elections, they're going to

00:04:37.980 have to get Christians to vote for them to stay in power. 0.97

00:04:42.380 And so what they want to try and do is get Christians to believe that somebody like Joe

00:04:46.640 Biden and his Democrat Party are for Christian policies in the sense they're pro-life and

00:04:52.900 pro-family and all these things when they're really not.

00:04:55.600 Yeah, it's an incredible thing.

00:04:57.320 It's actually very much like a new religion or something else. 0.61

00:05:01.180 And you had this beautiful term of a woke Christianity.

00:05:05.240 I think that's great because it's a false Christianity. 1.00

00:05:09.040 Explain to us how false indeed that is.

00:05:11.380 Well, let me ask you this question, John Henry.

00:05:13.660 Let's suppose you and I were at the base of Mount Sinai when Moses came down with the

00:05:18.380 Ten Commandments.

00:05:19.660 And he comes down to us and he says, hey, look, here are the Ten Commandments from Yahweh.

00:05:23.880 And we look at him and we say, you know, Moses, we don't like those ten.

00:05:28.540 We have our own ten.

00:05:30.200 Should we call ourselves followers of Yahweh?

00:05:35.200 No, obviously not.

00:05:36.640 We're not followers of Yahweh.

00:05:37.960 We're followers of ourselves.

00:05:39.360 Well, fast forward now to the 21st century.

00:05:42.860 We have people claiming to be Christians who are disagreeing with Jesus.

00:05:48.400 They're disagreeing with the apostles.

00:05:51.140 They're disagreeing with the Bible.

00:05:53.720 And yet they're calling themselves Christians? 0.99

00:05:56.680 Why?

00:05:57.160 That's just false advertising.

00:06:00.600 Many would respond, right?

00:06:02.980 But many might respond to, well, you know, they had certain practices in those days, certain

00:06:07.560 understandings.

00:06:08.820 You know, they were all men around. 0.94

00:06:10.540 Jesus couldn't possibly choose a woman to be a minister back then because, you know, it 1.00

00:06:14.680 was just impossible culturally.

00:06:16.720 So, you know, also with slavery, he said, slavery, be a good slave.

00:06:20.860 He didn't confront slavery because he was stuck in his own time period and had to conform to

00:06:26.120 those things.

00:06:27.460 Yeah, the problem is, first of all, they don't understand slavery when they say that.

00:06:30.520 When we hear the word slave today, we think of the kind of slavery that was in America

00:06:34.100 160 years ago.

00:06:36.020 The kind of slavery in the Bible was indentured servitude.

00:06:38.620 If you owed somebody money, you could put themselves or you could put yourself in their service to pay off

00:06:44.220 your debt.

00:06:44.840 And there was a point where you were going to be let go.

00:06:47.200 And many of them didn't want to get let go because they had a good arrangement with the

00:06:51.120 person to whom they owed money.

00:06:54.000 So it's not the same kind of slavery.

00:06:55.880 In fact, if we followed the biblical commands on slavery, particularly kidnapping, 160 years

00:07:04.920 ago, slave traders would have been punished by death.

00:07:09.220 OK, the Old Testament punished slavery or slave traders, I should say kidnappers by 1.00

00:07:14.640 death.

00:07:15.060 The kind of slavery we had 150, 160 years ago in America is not the kind of slavery the

00:07:19.520 Bible is talking about.

00:07:20.900 Secondly, when it comes to life, the Bible is quite clear that thou shall not murder is

00:07:28.240 something we ought not do.

00:07:29.780 And that applies to children unborn in the womb because they are human beings as well.

00:07:34.780 In fact, if you look at Luke chapter one, when Mary goes and visits Elizabeth, she's pregnant 0.94

00:07:40.700 with Jesus.

00:07:41.600 Elizabeth is pregnant with John the Baptist. 0.60

00:07:43.600 It says right there in chapter one, verse 41 or so of the Gospel of Luke, it says that

00:07:51.120 when when Mary greeted Elizabeth, the baby in Elizabeth's womb leapt.

00:07:58.760 The baby leapt in the womb.

00:08:00.320 It didn't say the product of conception.

00:08:02.560 It didn't say the choice.

00:08:04.080 It didn't say the fetus.

00:08:06.080 It said the baby leapt in the womb.

00:08:07.960 The Bible is quite clear that what's in the womb is a baby. 0.97

00:08:11.100 And of course, science is quite clear that what's what's in the womb is a baby as well.

00:08:15.780 And thou shall not murder applies to unborn children, just like it applies to born children.

00:08:21.480 The move to have the Christianity sort of adopted into the democratic left, or even more broadly

00:08:31.700 speaking, because it's not only an American phenomenon.

00:08:34.020 This is going on all over the world.

00:08:35.940 The move to sort of transform Christianity into some kind of a leftist religion, if you will.

00:08:43.860 It is a different religion, but still under the same nomenclature.

00:08:47.600 So, you know, Bill Clinton running around as a Southern Baptist with the Bible under his

00:08:52.200 arm and so on.

00:08:53.300 All but this is increased of late.

00:08:56.800 And really, the the I guess the effort to make this new Christianity, I've seen it increase. 0.97

00:09:03.640 Have you seen an increase?

00:09:04.500 And why do you think that's so?

00:09:05.780 Yes, I think it's it's so because they want to make sure that they get the Christian vote

00:09:10.040 as much as they can, because if they really revealed the truth about what they believe

00:09:15.380 as they spoke and as they governed, many Christians, of course, would not vote for them because they 0.92

00:09:23.660 are pro-abortion, they're anti-family, they're pro-borderless, you know, no borders, open borders.

00:09:32.580 These are things that are not Christian. 0.97

00:09:36.060 They're not they're not security conscious.

00:09:40.100 The Bible talks about borders and borders are something that that is certainly part of the

00:09:47.120 biblical record.

00:09:48.160 So we have them.

00:09:48.900 By the way, everyone believes in borders, John Henry.

00:09:50.940 I have a border right here on my house.

00:09:52.520 Right.

00:09:53.020 You have a border on your house.

00:09:54.440 You don't just let anybody in.

00:09:55.800 There's a border around the White House.

00:09:57.420 Why?

00:09:57.660 There's a fence around the White House.

00:09:58.940 Why?

00:09:59.240 Because it works.

00:09:59.820 There's now a fence around the Capitol, too.

00:10:01.420 But so these people who are saying they're for open borders, actually, if they were consistent,

00:10:07.280 they wouldn't have a border around the White House.

00:10:09.240 They wouldn't have a border around the Capitol.

00:10:11.300 They wouldn't have a lock in their door.

00:10:13.380 So I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to get people who are not really paying

00:10:18.680 close attention to think, hey, these people are Christians, too.

00:10:21.340 I should just vote for them when they're when they're not really voting for Christian policies 1.00

00:10:25.040 at all.

00:10:25.440 They're voting policies that are against Christianity and against the natural law.

00:10:30.620 Exactly.

00:10:31.060 And the difficulty is it sounds good.

00:10:35.000 If you're not thinking that carefully about it, a lot of it sounds good.

00:10:38.900 Oh, we're helping the poor.

00:10:39.920 Of course, we want our borders open for the poor because it's the poor that are coming 1.00

00:10:42.780 over.

00:10:43.540 And they have to get into actual reality to see what's happening on the ground to be able

00:10:47.820 to appreciate.

00:10:48.680 No, we need borders for protection.

00:10:51.520 But it's also not only protection for ourselves, it's protection for those families from whom 0.60

00:10:55.580 some people are being taken away and all sorts of rather nasty things that perhaps we've protected

00:11:02.780 people for too long from hearing about.

00:11:05.420 Because the sentiment of we just want to help the poor, we want to be open to the poor, that

00:11:11.540 works in terms of a Christian understanding.

00:11:13.700 Yeah, the problem is, is you have to look at the results.

00:11:17.540 You see, the intention is good, but not every intention results in good results.

00:11:24.820 This is an ends and means discussion.

00:11:27.020 We all want to help the poor.

00:11:28.420 The question is, what's the best way to help the poor?

00:11:31.540 Now, generally, conservatives believe that if you help an economy, a rising tide lifts all boats

00:11:38.520 and everybody, including the poor, will benefit.

00:11:41.640 For example, in the last four years, the lowest unemployment rate for minorities was accomplished

00:11:47.540 in the Trump administration because the economy was so good, it helped the lowest people in our

00:11:52.980 economy in terms of their socioeconomic status.

00:11:55.720 Now, liberals generally want to help the poor through government handouts.

00:11:58.860 Conservatives think, hey, you know, that's just going to create dependency.

00:12:02.400 And there's a good case it does.

00:12:04.140 So both parties want to help the poor.

00:12:06.280 The question is, what is the best way to help the poor?

00:12:09.200 And for that, we have to have debate.

00:12:11.040 But we shouldn't be saying, oh, if you don't like my policy, you're not for the poor.

00:12:16.400 No, all of us are for the poor.

00:12:17.840 The question is, what's the best way to do so?

00:12:21.440 Yeah.

00:12:22.500 Let's talk for a moment about just that.

00:12:24.240 The naming or calling of names and using false terminology, I found it incredible, particularly over racism.

00:12:34.520 This last little while since January 6th, even before that, but since January 6th, everybody's racist.

00:12:41.440 We're racist.

00:12:42.300 I was amazed.

00:12:45.580 We were called racist.

00:12:46.960 And as a person who's at least somewhat colored from a lot of people who were no color at all,

00:12:52.820 but calling me racist, I thought was incredible.

00:12:55.660 But nonetheless, this is the thing.

00:12:57.500 Everyone's a racist now, as long as you disagree with leftist ideology.

00:13:02.500 And actually, you can get away with saying the most racist things if you agree with leftist ideology.

00:13:09.820 Yeah, yeah, now math is racist, John Henry, and that just doesn't add up, okay?

00:13:16.320 I mean, it's just crazy what's going on.

00:13:18.800 You don't fight racism with more racism.

00:13:21.420 And critical race theory says, just like Marxism does, that there's a list of oppressors and a list of oppressed people.

00:13:30.040 And if you're an oppressor, like if you're white, or if you're a Christian, or if you're heterosexual, or you're rich, you're automatically considered an oppressor of other groups, like peoples of color, like the LGBTQ people, like poor people.

00:13:48.020 You're automatically considered an oppressor, which means if you say you're a white, heterosexual Christian man, you're automatically a racist. 0.67

00:13:57.140 You're automatically someone who, regardless of your behavior, is going to be somebody that can't be trusted.

00:14:04.980 And that's just racism itself, obviously.

00:14:08.300 You're judging people without even looking at their behavior.

00:14:11.840 You're judging them based on the color of their skin, which is exactly the opposite of what the Bible says.

00:14:17.340 There's only one race, the human race. 0.60

00:14:19.260 It's exactly opposite what the preacher Martin Luther King said, that I'm a dream of a day.

00:14:24.800 I have a dream that one day my children will be judged based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

00:14:30.700 Yet critical race theory comes along and starts judging people based on the color of their skin.

00:14:34.980 That's exactly the opposite of the way it should be.

00:14:38.700 That's just awesome.

00:14:39.620 If you can tell me, Frank, what really does the left use in terms of terminology to get its will through?

00:14:46.280 Well, let me just give you a few examples.

00:14:49.140 Freedom to choose.

00:14:50.160 Who can be against freedom to choose, John Henry?

00:14:53.020 Everyone's for freedom and freedom to choose, right?

00:14:55.500 It sounds so good.

00:14:56.880 The problem is if you ask them to complete the sentence, there's a problem.

00:15:00.400 Freedom to choose what?

00:15:01.880 The death of a baby?

00:15:04.040 That's not right.

00:15:05.300 That's not just.

00:15:06.840 And you're going to say that a woman has the freedom to choose the death of her baby.

00:15:11.100 Why doesn't she have the freedom to choose where that baby goes to school if she decides 1.00

00:15:15.900 to let it live?

00:15:16.720 You're not consistent on choice.

00:15:18.700 Another phrase they use is inclusion, tolerance, and diversity.

00:15:22.880 You know what that really means?

00:15:24.080 If you don't agree with us, if you have a diverse view, you will be excluded in the name 0.63

00:15:29.400 of inclusion, tolerance, and diversity.

00:15:31.520 You see, those words sound good, inclusion, tolerance, and diversity.

00:15:35.100 The problem is they exclude anybody who disagrees with them.

00:15:38.240 They cancel them.

00:15:39.560 And of course, the big word today is equality.

00:15:42.920 It doesn't mean equality of opportunity.

00:15:45.040 The Bible would agree with that. 0.91

00:15:46.460 Our founding documents would agree with that.

00:15:48.600 What they mean now is equality of outcome.

00:15:51.260 The word that's being thrown around now is equity.

00:15:54.560 Well, newsflash, you will not have equity or equality of outcome even coming from the same

00:16:00.280 household, much less people coming from different households in the country.

00:16:05.900 In fact, Thomas Sowell makes this point.

00:16:07.500 And he says, you know, if you look at the data, firstborn children tend to do better than

00:16:12.120 children born later.

00:16:13.860 In fact, he talks about the Apollo program.

00:16:16.200 He says, out of the 29 Apollo astronauts, 22 were either firstborn children or from only

00:16:22.480 born children, you know, single child households.

00:16:25.860 And he said, look, if you're not going to get the same result, the same outcome from kids brought

00:16:32.720 up in under the same roof with the same parents, how are you going to expect the same outcome

00:16:38.340 from children brought up by different parents in different circumstances?

00:16:42.960 You're never going to get equity of outcome in any society.

00:16:47.040 It's never happened anywhere.

00:16:48.780 And newsflash, it's not even going to happen in heaven.

00:16:51.980 Jesus says when he talks about the parable of the talents, he actually takes the one

00:16:58.240 talent from the guy who did nothing with it.

00:17:01.380 And he gives it to the one with 10 who did something with his.

00:17:06.020 You see, that's not equity.

00:17:07.360 That's called justice.

00:17:08.540 The Bible is for justice, not equity. 0.96

00:17:11.320 So no, there's no place in the history of the world that has ever had equity of outcome

00:17:16.640 and it won't even happen in heaven if the Democrat party is trying to make it happen here.

00:17:22.060 Yeah.

00:17:22.500 One of the things you said that's very, very powerful is about the, you know, the statement

00:17:29.140 that the need for inclusion and so on, and yet you're excluded when you disagree.

00:17:36.720 That I think people should be seeing in spades today.

00:17:40.800 This kind of acceptance and inclusion and love one another, except when you disagree and then

00:17:51.760 you're hated, you can be called all sorts of names.

00:17:55.100 You can be canceled as everybody knows who watches our YouTube channel or used to watch

00:17:59.900 our YouTube channel, which is now gone.

00:18:02.060 It is an absolutely unbelievable thing, but it's being done in exactly backwards fashion

00:18:08.940 because they have, they use all this terminology and they do the exact opposite.

00:18:13.500 Exactly.

00:18:14.180 It's not inclusion, tolerance and diversity at all.

00:18:16.360 By the way, just take the word tolerance.

00:18:17.740 What is the word tolerance supposed to mean?

00:18:19.580 Putting up with ideas with which you disagree, right?

00:18:23.280 You don't tolerate things you agree with.

00:18:25.620 You tolerate things you disagree with.

00:18:28.160 And yet their new definition of tolerance is that you must celebrate what I believe and

00:18:34.320 what I do.

00:18:35.200 That's not tolerance.

00:18:36.360 In order to tolerate something, you have to disagree with it.

00:18:39.240 But they've changed the language to make it sound good.

00:18:42.120 Look, they don't necessarily tolerate our view that, say, a child in the womb should be protected.

00:18:49.780 They don't tolerate that at all.

00:18:51.360 As you found out, they'll take down your YouTube channel over something like that, right?

00:18:55.480 That's not tolerance.

00:18:56.620 They are the people who claim to be fighting for tolerance while they're excluding anybody

00:19:02.700 that doesn't agree with them.

00:19:04.360 That's not the right definition of tolerance, quite obviously.

00:19:07.820 Exactly.

00:19:08.400 Now, I actually have a problem with some tolerance.

00:19:12.100 And I honestly, conservatives have been way over tolerant.

00:19:17.800 In every single sphere, conservatives tolerate the most intolerable things.

00:19:25.140 And it's so bad that elected conservative officials will leave in office, in place, the former

00:19:33.880 administrations, even though it's the opposite track, all their people, all their staffers.

00:19:39.100 Liberals get in and they fire everyone.

00:19:41.880 They bring in their own team.

00:19:43.200 Conservatives think, no, no, they're all good people, which they likely are.

00:19:46.840 But they're totally opposed to what you're doing.

00:19:48.620 But they have this great tolerance.

00:19:52.740 And the left has no tolerance whatsoever, but they talk about it all the time.

00:19:57.000 And conservatives live it, even to ways that I would disagree with.

00:20:00.920 Well, let me mention one thing about that, because I think the Christendom in general is

00:20:04.980 confused by the word tolerance.

00:20:07.100 Christians are not commanded to be tolerant. 1.00

00:20:09.540 Christians are commanded to be loving. 0.87

00:20:11.800 You see, tolerance is too weak.

00:20:13.720 Tolerance says, hold your nose and put up with them.

00:20:15.680 But love says, reach out and help them.

00:20:18.300 And if you truly want to love somebody, sometimes you can't tolerate what they're going to do.

00:20:23.740 You see, love does not require tolerance or approval.

00:20:27.520 Love requires that you stand for the truth.

00:20:29.600 Paul says that love always protects, that love rejoices in the truth.

00:20:38.220 And every parent knows this, John Henry.

00:20:40.080 If you tolerate everything your kid wants to do, you're not loving.

00:20:43.340 You're unloving.

00:20:44.000 To be loving, you've got to stand in the way of evil.

00:20:46.860 You've got to say, I don't care that you want to do this.

00:20:49.140 I'm going to stand in your way because you're going to hurt yourself and others.

00:20:52.540 It's wrong.

00:20:53.500 And conservatives have to start saying that.

00:20:55.460 No.

00:20:56.480 In order for us to love you, even if you're going to hate me for it,

00:20:59.420 I can't approve of something that's going to destroy you and others.

00:21:02.960 Yeah.

00:21:03.460 Yeah.

00:21:03.840 And of course, we can say that in loving ways.

00:21:06.400 Frank, do you yourself have children?

00:21:08.680 Oh, yes.

00:21:09.160 I have three sons and now a grandson.

00:21:11.280 Ah, very good.

00:21:12.160 So part of the journey, if you will, of having adult children is a difficult one because they

00:21:20.360 often will do things that you know are wrong for them.

00:21:24.980 And we nonetheless, as Christians, have to confront them when they're doing something

00:21:29.420 wrong.

00:21:30.640 Yes, in a loving way.

00:21:32.420 But sometimes we have to stand firm and disagree with them.

00:21:36.080 And that might have consequences and hard consequences for the family.

00:21:40.800 Yes.

00:21:41.060 Have you dealt with such things or have you given counsel to parents?

00:21:45.360 Oh, sure.

00:21:45.720 Yeah, absolutely.

00:21:46.760 The way that you love people, even your own children, is to tell them the truth, even if

00:21:50.940 they don't like you for it.

00:21:52.800 And so, yes, we've had to do that even recently because that's the way you love people.

00:21:58.660 You protect them by telling them the truth.

00:22:02.140 You rejoice in the truth.

00:22:04.000 You don't rejoice in falsehood.

00:22:05.400 You don't rejoice in error.

00:22:06.500 However, you actually have to tell them the truth.

00:22:09.540 Now, how you tell them, yeah, that can be problematic, but you still have to do it.

00:22:14.800 Yeah.

00:22:15.220 Yeah.

00:22:15.400 And what advice would you give to, well, parents, but anyone in that situation where they have

00:22:21.540 to confront was required to knowing exactly what to do, how to do it?

00:22:26.000 Because these situations are often very confusing.

00:22:29.080 A lot of parents out there, they pull their hair out.

00:22:31.060 They don't know what to do, what to say, where to go, because they're dealing with, well, lots

00:22:36.800 of different things, but they're dealing with a daughter's decision to perhaps abort her

00:22:43.980 child, God forbid, or they're entering into homosexual relationships, or they have no 0.99

00:22:49.580 problem with pornography, or they're going into marijuana because it's now legal.

00:22:55.800 Where do you get the inspiration on dealing with these things?

00:22:58.220 Well, I think what you have to say to them is something my first pastor said to his kids,

00:23:02.540 and that is, there's nothing you can do that will make me stop loving you.

00:23:08.780 And so what you tell them up front, but you know that that also means for me to love you,

00:23:13.280 that I have to tell you things that you might not like to hear because it's the truth.

00:23:19.080 You know, if you're about to be hit by a bus, I'm going to yell at you to get out of the

00:23:23.860 way because I love you.

00:23:26.100 And so there are going to be times when you're going to want to do something and it's wrong.

00:23:31.880 It's wrong by the scriptures.

00:23:34.040 It's wrong by natural law.

00:23:36.220 And I have to tell you why it's wrong and that you ought not do it.

00:23:41.040 So I'm going to tell you up front.

00:23:42.800 And if I didn't love you, I wouldn't say a word.

00:23:45.800 In fact, I might even approve of it in order to keep peace.

00:23:49.460 That's not loving.

00:23:51.280 In fact, I think it was Thomas Sowell who put it this way.

00:23:53.920 He said, if you tell people what they want to hear, you're helping yourself.

00:24:01.680 If you tell people what they need to hear, you're helping them.

00:24:06.540 Wow.

00:24:07.700 Wow.

00:24:08.260 In terms of what we can do in our culture today, because it is way, way off the track,

00:24:16.760 the road of Christ, how do we get back?

00:24:20.420 Do we get back?

00:24:21.400 How do we get back?

00:24:22.280 And what are the best ways forward, in your opinion, to restoring the culture for Christ?

00:24:27.100 Well, we have to start in our own homes.

00:24:28.800 You know, I'm reminded of the parent who once said, you know, the big problem in our country

00:24:35.900 today is we've gotten the Ten Commandments out of schools.

00:24:38.740 And one of his kids said, the Ten Commandments, name them.

00:24:43.020 And the father was speechless because he couldn't name them all.

00:24:46.820 He doesn't even know them in his own home.

00:24:50.180 Yet, we're worried about the schools.

00:24:52.240 I mean, we should be worried about the schools.

00:24:53.500 Don't get me wrong.

00:24:54.240 But you could elect all the right people.

00:24:58.500 And if you're still going to lose your kids to atheism or agnosticism, is that really worth it?

00:25:07.300 No.

00:25:08.200 We have to bring up our kids to know the Lord and to know why Christianity is true, which 0.75

00:25:13.660 is what we try and do.

00:25:14.660 That's what we do at our ministry, crossexamine.org.

00:25:17.040 We go to a lot of colleges, a lot of high schools, and we present the evidence that Christianity

00:25:20.660 is true.

00:25:21.260 Because, as you know, John Henry, they go off to college, and they're going to run into

00:25:27.040 big opposition and temptation.

00:25:29.400 And unless they're really grounded in the truth, they're going to get picked off.

00:25:32.780 In fact, 75% of kids leave the church after they leave the home.

00:25:37.580 And the number one reason they do is intellectually, they don't know why Christianity is true.

00:25:41.560 You know why?

00:25:41.940 Because we haven't told them why it's true.

00:25:42.940 We haven't given them any evidence.

00:25:44.560 So we have to start at home.

00:25:46.640 And if we bring up the home right, the rest of the culture eventually will follow.

00:25:51.080 Now, in a parallel way, we also have to be involved politically, quite obviously.

00:25:55.780 We do have to vote for the right people.

00:25:58.040 Maybe we have to run ourselves.

00:26:00.280 And we have to hold these politicians to the truth of our Constitution, which is one of the

00:26:06.800 greatest documents ever written when it comes to governance.

00:26:10.260 We have to hold them to natural law.

00:26:11.920 That's what our government was founded on.

00:26:13.320 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men were created equal and endowed by their

00:26:17.460 creator with certain unalienable rights.

00:26:19.140 Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:26:21.320 Notice he puts life first.

00:26:22.620 Why?

00:26:23.200 Because life is the right to all of the rights.

00:26:25.120 If you don't have life, you don't have anything.

00:26:27.280 So we have to really stand strong for the truth, not only in the home, but in the public

00:26:33.840 square.

00:26:35.380 Tell us where folks can get in touch with you, with your materials.

00:26:39.740 Because I know you've got a lot of great material, especially to form young people.

00:26:44.540 And what I mean by young people is sort of the high school age and college age and so

00:26:48.740 on.

00:26:49.080 Because those are crucial ages where they start to question a lot of things.

00:26:53.920 They're bombarded with things.

00:26:56.320 Where can they get resources to really fight the culture that way?

00:26:59.360 If they go to crossexamined.org, that's crossexamined with a D on the end of it, .org, it'll be the gateway

00:27:05.420 to everything we do.

00:27:06.380 We have a podcast called I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist every week.

00:27:09.440 We have a TV show.

00:27:11.180 We have about 900 Q&A videos on our YouTube channel, cross-examined.

00:27:16.400 Most of them are Q&A videos from the college campus.

00:27:20.240 Many of them are very short, you know, two or three minutes that go into all these different

00:27:23.680 issues that kids are asking on a college campus.

00:27:26.140 So those are some resources they can avail themselves of.

00:27:28.980 We have a app too, cross-examined app, two words in the app store.

00:27:32.580 It has a quick answer section on it.

00:27:34.680 It also airs our TV show, our podcast.

00:27:36.820 It's all right there.

00:27:37.660 So those resources are available.

00:27:39.840 They're all free.

00:27:41.720 Awesome.

00:27:42.780 Awesome.

00:27:43.300 And I want to encourage people.

00:27:45.000 Frank is a great speaker and really awesome with answers.

00:27:49.720 All those hard questions that you can't answer for your teens and your early 20s, he's got

00:27:54.960 them.

00:27:55.480 So please do check it out.

00:27:57.320 Frank, thank you so much for being with us on this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:28:00.900 John Henry, my pleasure.

00:28:02.400 God bless you.

00:28:02.940 And God bless all of you.

00:28:06.380 We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - March 18, 2021

Ripping the mask off the Democratic Party's 'woke Christianity'

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