The John-Henry Westen Show - Russia has WON - Ukraine has Already LOST ｜ Colonel Macgregor

00:00:00.000 Stop all aid to the Ukrainian government, period.

00:00:03.460 No more military assistance of any kind.

00:00:07.200 Hello, my friends, and welcome to the John Henry Weston Show,

00:00:09.900 where we have a very special guest with us today.

00:00:12.980 In fact, a guest who can give us clarity on what's going on in Ukraine, Russia, and Israel,

00:00:20.160 two of the hotspots in today's world,

00:00:23.560 which there are fears about escalation into World War III.

00:00:27.500 We have with us none other than Colonel Douglas McGregor,

00:00:31.260 a retired colonel in the United States Army,

00:00:34.480 and also a political consultant, a former government official, an author,

00:00:39.680 and a political commentator who is daring to say the things today

00:00:46.100 that not many people are willing to say.

00:00:49.560 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:00:51.840 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Amen.

00:00:56.780 We're very grateful to have Colonel McGregor with us today.

00:00:59.980 Thank you very much for inviting me to join you.

00:01:02.360 It's a great honor for us to have you here.

00:01:05.160 Tell us about what's going on in Ukraine and Russia.

00:01:10.560 What's happening there, and you've warned about it before,

00:01:13.120 but the possible escalation into a veritable Third World War is eminently possible.

00:01:21.200 Tell us about that and what's happening right now.

00:01:23.540 I think historically, wars become most dangerous at their end.

00:01:28.540 And we are at the end of this war in Ukraine between the regime in Kiev and Moscow.

00:01:36.320 I think people need to understand the war is, for all intents and purposes, over.

00:01:40.700 The Russians have won.

00:01:41.960 There's no dispute about that.

00:01:43.840 The losses on the Ukrainian side are horrific.

00:01:46.580 We're looking at least 1.5 million dead Ukrainian soldiers.

00:01:51.740 These things are not told to people in the West.

00:01:53.920 They don't understand just how tragic and desolate Ukraine has become. 0.95

00:01:59.140 And the regime in Kiev is largely distant from its own population.

00:02:05.140 They're really quite remote.

00:02:06.680 They've decided, and I think this man Zelensky is reflective of this small minority that runs 0.82

00:02:12.360 the country, that they're going to pull out every stop that's available to try and persuade

00:02:18.480 people, especially in Washington, but also in Western Europe, that there is still life left

00:02:24.260 in this regime.

00:02:25.040 And there isn't.

00:02:26.140 The Ukrainian ground force commander, who is widely regarded as probably one of the competent

00:02:32.140 members of the Ukrainian military, resigned yesterday.

00:02:35.600 He resigned according, I don't know what the official reason was, but I know that privately,

00:02:40.760 he said, this war is lost and he doesn't want to preside over the mass extermination of what

00:02:46.500 remains.

00:02:47.360 And literally, that's what you're looking at on the battlefield right now.

00:02:51.500 A Ukrainian soldier, most of them are not very well trained.

00:02:55.020 They're equipped, but they don't receive much training before they go into action.

00:02:58.880 And they're essentially being pushed into enemy gunfire, for which they're largely unprepared.

00:03:05.380 We are sending things to them that they can't even employ effectively.

00:03:10.760 And so what you see instead of battlefield tactics, per se, on the Ukrainian side, are these

00:03:16.940 desperate measures that are really public relations stunts designed to create the illusion

00:03:22.200 that there is still life left in this regime.

00:03:25.320 And we've seen that recently with the penetration of the border in Siberia at these remote air

00:03:32.380 bases where they were able to surprise the Russians.

00:03:35.660 Some of the drones that were used in this attack were shot down, but some got through and

00:03:40.560 they damaged some old Cold War bombers that were on the runway.

00:03:44.840 Now, the reason those bombers were on the runways, or we would say tarmac in the military,

00:03:50.320 was part of the strategic arms limitations agreements with the Soviets that have persisted

00:03:56.000 into the present that obligate us to put our bombers out on the runway for the same reason,

00:04:02.040 so they could be seen from satellites.

00:04:05.040 That reassures the Soviets or reassured the Russians now and reassures us that these are 0.98

00:04:10.800 not being loaded with nuclear weapons and prepared to take off immediately and attack us.

00:04:15.600 So, unfortunately, what we've done inadvertently by helping the Ukrainians to execute this particular 0.98

00:04:23.880 mission is we've destroyed confidence in our government's understanding of just how critical

00:04:30.440 it is for these bombers to be in view.

00:04:33.320 So, it's a bad situation from the standpoint of agreements that we've made with the Soviets 0.95

00:04:39.500 and the Russians in the past, but it's even more serious insofar as this is a fraud. 0.54

00:04:46.320 This is an effort to create the illusion that there is something happening on the ground in

00:04:51.300 Ukraine that suggests Ukraine has life in it. 0.93

00:04:54.660 It doesn't.

00:04:55.880 This war is over.

00:04:57.280 The only thing that can happen is more Ukrainians can die in ever-increasing numbers. 0.94

00:05:01.560 And it reminds me of something that General Petraeus, when he was operating in Iraq, had

00:05:07.880 to say.

00:05:08.780 Somebody asked you about what's happening here, here, here in Iraq, and he said, look,

00:05:13.020 what people think in Washington is what counts.

00:05:17.740 And that's the theory in Kiev.

00:05:20.480 If we can convince people in Washington that we are still here, we can fight, and they should

00:05:26.740 continue to fund us and supply us, then we have a chance of survival.

00:05:32.520 If we can't do that, we're finished.

00:05:34.660 We lose.

00:05:35.380 That's all that's happening right now.

00:05:37.240 It's a PR stunt dressed up to look like something it isn't.

00:05:40.800 It seems so unfathomable, particularly when the PR stunt, as you call it, is costing lives

00:05:47.540 to the tune of 1.5 million.

00:05:51.200 That's unbelievable.

00:05:52.860 How do those numbers compare to the deaths of the Russians?

00:05:56.700 Is it a similar number that what we're hearing, what we're always hearing from the mainstream

00:06:00.160 is it's always similar numbers?

00:06:03.040 Is there truth to that?

00:06:05.120 And, well, I have a fault, but tell us that first.

00:06:08.000 Well, I estimate, and others who are familiar with the war to this point, estimate about 120,000

00:06:13.600 dead Russian soldiers.

00:06:14.840 There may be some additional dead if we separate Chechens and people from the Donetsk and Luhansk 0.99

00:06:22.820 oblasts.

00:06:24.400 You may add another 5,000, 10,000 into that category.

00:06:28.600 But on the whole, the loss ratio is for every one killed, one Russian killed, you usually

00:06:35.500 had somewhere between six and eight Ukrainians killed.

00:06:39.440 Over the last several months, and this happens at the end of every major war, if you go back

00:06:43.400 to the Second World War, the Germans actually took most of their losses in the last six

00:06:48.660 to eight months of the war.

00:06:50.680 We find that hard to imagine, but that's true.

00:06:53.480 When an army begins to retreat, is overwhelmed by your firepower and your capabilities, things

00:06:59.680 fall apart.

00:07:00.420 As they fall apart, more and more and more people are killed, wounded, or captured.

00:07:05.660 Well, that's what's happened in Ukraine.

00:07:07.200 Bear in mind that the secret police in Ukraine, working with the CIA, MI6, and Mossad, have

00:07:15.460 been pretty effective at essentially shooting anyone who doesn't want to fight, jailing

00:07:20.720 anyone who doesn't want to fight, or forcing them at gunpoint into action.

00:07:24.960 But now we do know there are gangs in Ukraine.

00:07:27.520 When I say gangs, I'm talking about groups of men who have decided to organize themselves

00:07:32.620 to resist any further compulsory military service, so they can no longer round up people off 0.97

00:07:39.620 the streets or go to people's houses with impunity, drag people out, drag men out, and put them

00:07:45.040 into vans and cars and take them off to be killed.

00:07:48.720 So things are falling apart in Ukraine. 0.86

00:07:51.340 But again, this man Zelensky knows that if he can create this illusion in people's minds,

00:07:56.680 then this can go on longer.

00:07:59.200 Remember that about a third to 40% of everything we send to Ukraine, I'm talking about cash

00:08:05.580 as well as equipment, ultimately disappears into the black hole of corruption.

00:08:11.360 And officers in the Ukrainian army, battalion commanders and above, have all been supplemented

00:08:17.240 with income based on the corrupt redistribution of American cash.

00:08:23.040 Remember, we support the entire government.

00:08:25.060 Nothing would work.

00:08:26.900 Nothing could go on for 24 hours without vast infusions of American cash.

00:08:31.900 And we've also seen them resell large quantities of equipment.

00:08:35.420 They've even resold equipment to the Russians, which is some people shake their heads in disbelief,

00:08:40.640 but it's true.

00:08:42.140 We've seen people in Mexico and the drug cartels and the armed organizations there in organized

00:08:48.840 crime walking around with weapons they purchased from the Ukrainians. 0.81

00:08:52.160 Including javelin missiles, which is a very lethal system.

00:08:57.000 I mean, you can defend against it and fight against it, but if you're on the drug cartel

00:09:03.160 payroll and somebody tells you to use a javelin missile over the border, you're into serious

00:09:07.760 trouble because there's no way for you to be prepared for that.

00:09:10.660 Has what's happened recently ended the threat of a possible World War III scenario coming

00:09:24.500 from the Ukraine-Russia conflict, or is that still possible?

00:09:28.060 I think that President Trump has failed to impose his will on his own administration as well

00:09:33.860 as the Congress.

00:09:35.100 What do I mean by that?

00:09:36.900 He has not taken definitive and decisive stances.

00:09:41.320 And if you don't do that, then the danger of rapid escalation and the involvement of other

00:09:46.800 countries in the war becomes very real.

00:09:49.500 And I think that's where we are right now.

00:09:52.080 If you go back to President Eisenhower in 1956, we had something called the Suez Crisis,

00:09:59.040 where the British, the French, and the Israelis jointly decided to invade Egypt with the goal

00:10:04.180 of recapturing control of the Suez Canal.

00:10:07.380 And of course, the Israelis were told, if you come in on this with us, we'll give you Suez.

00:10:12.900 So the Israelis invaded, the British, and the French all invaded.

00:10:17.260 When Eisenhower discovered this, he was infuriated, and he immediately went public,

00:10:22.980 and he told the British, the French, and the Israelis to get the hell out of Egypt.

00:10:26.860 We did not support this.

00:10:28.820 And he made it abundantly clear that we, under no circumstances, were prepared to go to war

00:10:33.680 with the Soviets at that point, because the Soviets had come out and said, if the British

00:10:39.400 and the French and the Israelis do this, we will intervene in Egypt to save the Egyptian 0.54

00:10:44.640 government.

00:10:46.100 Well, that's, you know, Eisenhower didn't want anything to do with the war in Egypt or

00:10:49.660 anywhere else in the Middle East.

00:10:51.180 And so he forced the British, the French, and the Israelis to retreat. 0.57

00:10:54.540 He told them, if you don't retreat, you know, there will be consequences, financial, economic,

00:11:00.040 and otherwise for you.

00:11:01.760 And of course, they knew then, as they know now, without our support, without our financial

00:11:08.540 backing, without the military equipment and technology we're prepared to provide, they

00:11:13.180 can't sustain themselves for any length of time.

00:11:15.660 The same thing's true today in Europe.

00:11:17.860 Europe has what I call Lilliputian armies.

00:11:21.120 These are small organizations designed to conduct safaris in Africa.

00:11:27.280 In other words, to intervene in places where there isn't much capability to impose, you

00:11:32.740 know, solutions, political, economic, military, whatever they are.

00:11:35.920 They are not prepared in any way, shape, or form to take on the Russians. 0.98

00:11:40.400 And when they talk about spending more on defense, it takes 10 years to build effective

00:11:45.860 military forces.

00:11:46.840 You don't build those overnight.

00:11:48.940 And they don't have the resources.

00:11:50.840 Their economies are in as bad shape, if not worse than our own here in the United States.

00:11:56.180 So how could you possibly extract more wealth from the population?

00:12:01.160 And their welfare systems, if you will, their social security nets are much more extensive

00:12:07.140 and complex than our own.

00:12:08.720 So the notion that the Europeans are going to be in a position anytime soon to take on

00:12:13.720 the Russians is absurd. 0.80

00:12:15.580 So the whole thing needs to stop. 0.95

00:12:18.020 It makes no sense.

00:12:19.440 The Russians aren't going to war.

00:12:21.120 They want an end to this, but they want to be assured that their country will be protected.

00:12:27.680 And we have failed repeatedly to address the legitimate security interests of the Russians.

00:12:33.080 It would be as though we in the United States were concerned about hostile forces in Mexico,

00:12:39.800 attacking our citizens and destroying our property, and then ultimately doing nothing about it.

00:12:47.400 And when we did something about it, and we have in the past intervened in Mexico to stop things,

00:12:52.940 then we would argue we have a legitimate security interest.

00:12:56.920 Your radicalism, your revolutionary spirit, your activities, your criminality is spilling

00:13:02.900 over into the United States.

00:13:04.560 We can't have that.

00:13:06.020 So we have intervened previously and pushed the Mexicans away from the border, especially 1.00

00:13:10.740 the forces that were down there.

00:13:12.000 Imagine what we would do today if we saw Russians and Chinese in great numbers inside Mexico, 1.00

00:13:19.920 training, arming, and equipping Mexicans to fight us. 0.98

00:13:22.720 I think the reaction in the United States would be far more violent and immediate than what

00:13:27.900 we're seeing from the Russians.

00:13:29.480 But effectively, that's the analogy.

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00:14:02.440 King.

00:14:03.440 What could President Trump do in order to, as you said, sort of make his will more concrete

00:14:10.820 in terms of where we're going on this war?

00:14:13.280 But also, what can the people of the United States do in order to encourage that and end

00:14:19.000 to the bloodshed there, which, as you said, could escalate?

00:14:21.920 Let's answer the one about the president first.

00:14:24.620 The president talked when he was running for election shortly after he was inaugurated about

00:14:30.720 ending these overseas conflicts, stopping our interventions in these things.

00:14:36.480 And he boasted that he could get on the phone, make some phone calls and end the war in 24

00:14:41.180 hours.

00:14:41.740 That statement was ridiculous because the issues at stake in Ukraine are very complex. 0.80

00:14:46.600 Ukrainian problem, if you will, has been there for hundreds of years. 0.80

00:14:51.140 There's a long history that we can't go into right now.

00:14:53.480 But there are reasons for the people feeling the way they do on all sides.

00:14:58.500 But the point is, for us as Americans, I think the most important thing for President Trump to say

00:15:03.960 right off the bat immediately is, number one, under no circumstances do we support a war with Russia.

00:15:12.800 Make that clear.

00:15:14.160 We don't support it.

00:15:15.460 We don't want to be part of it.

00:15:17.120 That's number one.

00:15:18.060 Number two, if Kiev doesn't understand that we under no circumstances are prepared to go to war in

00:15:23.900 Ukraine on their behalf, then it becomes important for us to do two things.

00:15:30.280 Number one, stop all aid to the Ukrainian government, period.

00:15:34.640 No more military assistance of any kind.

00:15:37.440 Number two, I am withdrawing, if I were president, I would say I'm withdrawing all American citizens 1.00

00:15:43.420 in and out of uniform, intelligence or otherwise from Ukraine.

00:15:48.260 Period.

00:15:49.140 Well, at that point, the Europeans are saying, well, you're leaving us hanging.

00:15:52.900 And the answer is no.

00:15:54.300 I'm telling you, this is a European problem that Europeans need to solve. 0.79

00:15:59.000 And the only way to solve this is not to try and build yourselves up militarily because that's

00:16:04.040 not going to work.

00:16:05.060 It's to talk to the Russians.

00:16:08.160 That has to happen.

00:16:10.540 That's what should be done.

00:16:12.340 I mean, President Trump says, oh, I want the killing to stop.

00:16:15.040 This is terrible.

00:16:15.680 Oh, fine, Mr. President.

00:16:17.280 I just told you how to do that.

00:16:19.160 And I've been saying this for months and I'm not the only one.

00:16:23.380 And he, instead of following instincts, he usually has pretty good instincts on these

00:16:28.120 things.

00:16:29.020 He's listened to the wrong people.

00:16:30.820 And he's tried to impose himself on this, pretending that he is in a position to somehow or another

00:16:37.580 sort it out.

00:16:38.680 He can't.

00:16:40.180 We don't live there.

00:16:42.120 We need to come to terms with that reality.

00:16:43.880 You know, Charles de Gaulle used to say two things.

00:16:46.580 He said, people in Europe need to understand these two things.

00:16:48.960 Number one, Great Britain is an island and Americans don't live in Europe. 0.69

00:16:54.000 He was right.

00:16:54.900 Indeed, indeed.

00:16:58.180 And so how can the American people assist the president to take these actions, which

00:17:04.720 I'm sure he's getting pushback on from a lot of different parties?

00:17:08.260 Well, remember that large numbers of people in Washington and particularly on the Hill have

00:17:14.080 stuffed their pockets with cash as a result of this, what I would call phony military assistance

00:17:20.040 program.

00:17:20.940 Because what we do is that we say we're going to allocate X amount of dollars to buy equipment.

00:17:28.240 Well, the equipment goes over.

00:17:29.940 Most of the dollars stay in Washington.

00:17:32.280 And the dollars go to the military industrial base, to the various firms and corporations

00:17:39.860 that are providing things in return for which members of Congress, in addition to owning

00:17:45.520 stock in these things and benefiting in that form, receive campaign donations.

00:17:50.960 Thank you so much, you know, Senator, Congressman, for supporting this massive aid program to Ukraine

00:17:57.000 that's made us very rich.

00:17:58.140 When from day one, anyone with any experience in the region, knowing anything about Russia

00:18:03.560 and Ukraine knew Ukraine could never win.

00:18:07.440 Impossible.

00:18:08.620 Even President Trump admitted that.

00:18:11.020 So what they've got to do is they've not only got to contact the president of the United

00:18:15.420 States, they've got to flood their senators and congressmen with messages that say, and

00:18:21.940 this is the only thing that they listen to, dear Mr. So-and-so, dear Senator So-and-so,

00:18:27.100 if you don't stop aid to Ukraine and end this war, I will never vote for you again.

00:18:35.800 That's what they listen to because that's what they're most concerned about, staying

00:18:39.960 in office.

00:18:40.740 If they can't stay in office, they can't line their pockets with the extra cash.

00:18:45.440 They can't play illegally in the stock market, which is what they've been doing up there for

00:18:50.180 years.

00:18:50.580 And here's the bad news.

00:18:52.200 When you have someone who steps forward like Thomas Massey from Kentucky, and he says,

00:18:57.940 I'm not going to support your spending bill.

00:18:59.760 I'm not going to support the aid package for Ukraine.

00:19:03.740 Then President Trump turns around and says, he's my enemy.

00:19:06.820 I'm going to crush him. 0.88

00:19:09.220 Why? 0.87

00:19:10.240 He's the only man of any integrity or common sense.

00:19:14.400 Everybody else has got their hands out for more cash.

00:19:17.180 Let's turn for a moment to the other hotbed in the world right now, and that's in Israel. 0.64

00:19:23.640 Tell us what you think is happening there in Israel and what potential that has for either

00:19:29.000 escalation or coming back to some kind of relative peace.

00:19:34.200 You know, I actually talked to President Trump in November of 2020 about Iran, and I know that

00:19:39.700 at that point, at any rate, he was absolutely resolute in his opposition to a war with Iran,

00:19:45.160 which I thought was a very good thing.

00:19:47.380 Of course, this predates the catastrophe in Gaza.

00:19:51.040 Now he's got a different situation because I think he owes a great deal to his position in the

00:19:56.460 White House to extraordinarily wealthy Jewish donors, and these are all advocates for and 0.71

00:20:04.540 agents for Mr. Netanyahu and what he wants to do for his so-called greater Israel project.

00:20:11.340 And I think President Trump is trying to satisfy them, reassure them, reassure his Jewish constituents

00:20:19.860 who are so wealthy and influential, because you know how the Israel lobby operates.

00:20:26.500 It's technically a foreign lobby, but we treat it as a domestic lobby because most of the money

00:20:32.360 comes from domestic sources.

00:20:34.760 Remember, you had someone like Adelson, who was an Israeli who then got American citizenship.

00:20:41.340 So when he contributes hundreds of millions of dollars to the Israel lobby, well, then

00:20:46.440 we say it's from an American source.

00:20:48.500 And we have lots of these dual citizens.

00:20:50.980 We have people on the National Security Council staff who are Israeli citizens who also hold

00:20:57.360 American citizenship.

00:20:58.960 We really didn't face this in a dramatic way until really the late 60s and 70s, because up

00:21:04.920 until 65, if you voted in the election for a foreign government, if you served with a

00:21:11.320 foreign military establishment and swore allegiance to the country in doing so, well, that was

00:21:16.480 considered illegal and you were stripped of your citizenship.

00:21:21.260 I think we need to go back to that, frankly.

00:21:23.520 But for the moment, that doesn't exist anymore.

00:21:26.080 And so you have this very strange arrangement.

00:21:29.580 And so President Trump has to deal with this.

00:21:33.460 And he, you know, he thus far has tried to make everyone happy, because if there's one

00:21:38.440 flaw in President Trump, it's his desire to be popular.

00:21:43.160 As Harry Truman said, if you want a friend in Washington, buy a dog.

00:21:46.860 Perhaps he should go back and remember what Truman had to say.

00:21:49.620 But I don't think he, I don't think he understands that.

00:21:53.040 He loves adulation.

00:21:54.980 And when he goes out, he wants to be cheered and he wants to be worshipped.

00:21:59.400 And that makes him feel as though what he's doing is right.

00:22:03.000 So he's very sensitive to optics.

00:22:06.700 But at the end of the day, there is no strategy.

00:22:10.000 Everything is impulsive.

00:22:11.360 In other words, within the last few days,

00:22:12.940 you had articles that came out in the news saying, well, America is close to an arrangement

00:22:19.240 with Iran, a new deal based on 3.2 or 3.5 percent uranium enrichment and a new way to

00:22:28.680 dispose of the enriched uranium or share it with others and so forth.

00:22:32.740 All of a sudden, last night, he came up and said, no enrichment.

00:22:36.700 Can't have it.

00:22:38.280 Well, no enrichment means eventually war with Iran.

00:22:41.360 Now, remember that Pakistan and India have hundreds of missiles and probably hundreds,

00:22:48.400 if not thousands, of nuclear warheads.

00:22:50.840 No one ever raises this matter.

00:22:53.920 So Iran sees this as a question of sovereign independence.

00:22:59.300 Why should they give up their sovereignty as an independent country?

00:23:04.020 Because Israel doesn't want them to have access to nuclear power.

00:23:09.420 Because the Israelis think that any access to nuclear power could result in Iran becoming

00:23:15.100 a nuclear armed power.

00:23:17.780 And they want to remain the only power in the region with nuclear weapons. 0.59

00:23:23.520 And so we are there to ensure that they enjoy this monopoly, which they insist is vital to their

00:23:30.760 long-term security and existence.

00:23:32.600 This is not a good thing for the United States, and I say, with all in all seriousness, Mr.

00:23:41.260 Trump needs to look in the mirror and ask whether or not he's about America first.

00:23:47.320 Because we have no interest in going to war with Iran.

00:23:50.540 How much they enrich is of no real consequence to us, especially when they agree to be inspected,

00:23:56.660 when they agree to arrangements that allow third parties to validate?

00:24:01.740 That should be good enough for us.

00:24:04.380 We're opposed to nuclear proliferation in the sense of weapons, and that would seem to

00:24:09.580 satisfy the requirement.

00:24:10.860 But it is an absolute condition stipulated by Mr. Netanyahu and his agents in the United 0.73

00:24:17.440 States who fund the Israel lobby that Iran may not have nuclear enrichment.

00:24:25.240 What do you make of that crazy proposal that Trump put out as an AI video about Trump-Gaza

00:24:32.060 and making it free for everybody?

00:24:34.680 What was the message behind that?

00:24:36.420 Because I think a lot of people now realize Trump does some things.

00:24:40.120 He overplays his hand.

00:24:41.180 He speaks perhaps in hyperbole or something.

00:24:45.140 What did you make of that?

00:24:46.540 What do you think it means, especially for America right now?

00:24:51.240 A friend of mine said to me the other day, you know, it's very difficult for someone who

00:24:56.380 drives a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or is chauffeured in a limousine all the time to understand what

00:25:04.320 it's like to drive a Ford pickup truck to work every day.

00:25:08.380 And I think that's the problem.

00:25:09.980 I don't think President Trump grasped what was happening in Gaza.

00:25:15.620 Now, that's his fault.

00:25:18.300 He needs to dig into things.

00:25:20.740 He doesn't.

00:25:21.980 This is not a detailed personality.

00:25:25.220 This is not someone who reads and absorbs information at a very high rate.

00:25:31.320 This is someone who doesn't read much of anything.

00:25:34.680 He told a friend of mine, somebody asked him about the Constitution, and they said,

00:25:39.040 don't you know what's in it?

00:25:40.620 And he said, well, I don't know all those details.

00:25:43.380 Have you read it?

00:25:44.080 He said, well, not really.

00:25:46.200 Well, then you've got to read the Constitution.

00:25:48.680 He said, no, I don't.

00:25:50.300 If I need to know what's in it, I have people here on staff that I pay to tell me what's in it.

00:25:55.800 Well, that's a dangerous position to take for someone who is the commander-in-chief

00:26:01.300 of the United States Armed Forces and the chief executive of the American government.

00:26:06.560 Do you really want to depend on a small inner circle of people that may be your friends

00:26:11.800 and golfing buddies to tell you what you need to know?

00:26:15.720 And I'm sure some of these golfing buddies who have billions of dollars are very smart men,

00:26:20.080 and I would take their advice potentially, depending on the situation,

00:26:24.300 on real estate in New York City, but I don't think I'd listen to much else that they have to say.

00:26:29.580 And I think that's the problem with President Trump.

00:26:32.160 I don't think he's always known, and then I don't think he's prepared to act accordingly

00:26:37.680 when he finds out the truth.

00:26:39.960 I think he's been subjected to a very one-sided picture.

00:26:44.780 Gaza is a stain on the honor of the American people. 1.00

00:26:48.140 We should not support any country in the world that is engaged in the mass murder or expulsion

00:26:54.900 of two-plus million people.

00:26:58.000 It's just wrong.

00:26:59.320 I don't care what their race is, religion, or anything else.

00:27:03.520 It's just wrong.

00:27:06.540 But he doesn't seem to grasp that, and so he doesn't talk about it.

00:27:10.480 And I think his comments about, oh, this is great real estate.

00:27:13.100 Look what we can do here.

00:27:14.040 I think he was talking to his real estate friends and said, oh, these people are worthless.

00:27:18.140 Look what they could have done with this.

00:27:20.080 They could have had Las Vegas on the Mediterranean.

00:27:23.620 Well, it may come as a shock or a surprise, but most Muslim and Christian Arabs or Palestinians

00:27:29.180 may not be interested in building Las Vegas on the Mediterranean.

00:27:33.860 Yeah.

00:27:34.300 So I asked you previously with regard to Russia, Ukraine, if the threat of a world war ensuing

00:27:41.940 might be over now.

00:27:43.760 You explained that, you know, it's the end.

00:27:46.080 But if the president's will isn't made clear and obvious and he doesn't go ahead with the

00:27:53.860 push that he knows he needs to do, it might still escalate.

00:27:57.080 What do you think about that same question with regard to Israel, Gaza, the genocide that's

00:28:03.100 obviously going on?

00:28:04.660 Does that have the potential also to escalate into something of a world war scenario?

00:28:10.380 Yes.

00:28:10.760 I think the Middle East situation is ultimately far more dangerous. 0.70

00:28:15.600 President Putin is on the other side in Eastern Europe.

00:28:19.180 He absolutely does not want a war with the United States or NATO.

00:28:22.660 And that, to a large extent, explains why he's been very careful and deliberate in his approach

00:28:27.840 to this conflict.

00:28:29.580 The average Russian is furious, doesn't understand why he hasn't already smashed everyone in 1.00

00:28:34.740 Kiev and why he's not prepared to cross the river and march all the way to the Polish border,

00:28:39.660 because Russians are that angry about what's happened.

00:28:42.600 People have never been told how the Ukrainians have behaved on the battlefield. 0.96

00:28:46.420 We get this report, all Russians are murdering civilians.

00:28:49.320 Russia, that's not true.

00:28:50.440 But the Ukrainians have in great numbers.

00:28:53.580 And the things the Ukrainians have done and the symbols that they've attached to themselves 0.99

00:28:58.200 have resurrected this ugly past of the Second World War. 0.73

00:29:02.200 And that's a nightmare for the people that live in Russia. 1.00

00:29:05.680 So they would have acted already much more decisively.

00:29:09.620 We might be in a much more serious position.

00:29:11.680 But for President Putin, President Putin has reined everyone in and said, no, we're going

00:29:17.960 to approach this carefully, we're going to work as much as possible for a negotiated end.

00:29:23.420 The situation in the Middle East is totally different.

00:29:27.380 Mr. Netanyahu is absolutely, resolutely opposed to anything that does not deliver on the Greater

00:29:34.940 Israel Project.

00:29:36.200 Now, I'm sure some of your viewers have seen Israelis in uniform, and they are wearing a patch.

00:29:42.760 And that patch shows that Sinai, parts of Jordan, half of Syria, and half of Lebanon are all part of Greater Israel.

00:29:52.200 We, Americans, are supporting that.

00:29:54.380 And that means to the Israelis, the removal of the populations that are living there who 1.00

00:29:59.220 are Muslims, or Christians, or Shiite.

00:30:02.720 And that's something that, again, I don't think we should support.

00:30:06.280 It's completely inconsistent with what we say our principles and values are.

00:30:11.660 So I think there's a real danger that if we attack Iran, and when I say we, I'm talking 0.95

00:30:15.960 about the Israelis and, and whether, whether or not we do it initially with them, or they

00:30:22.900 do it, and then we are asked to come in and support them and help defend them, doesn't make

00:30:28.140 any difference because the Iranians are prepared.

00:30:32.300 Now they may not be prepared for the Israelis to use a nuclear weapon. 0.81

00:30:36.900 And I hope they don't, but they have the access to that.

00:30:40.620 And they may feel that they can do it and get away with it.

00:30:43.080 Right now, their plan is to destroy two things, the nuclear, so-called nuclear facilities or

00:30:50.340 weapons or whatever they think is stored there and the government, because they have this

00:30:55.280 fantasy in which the government's decapitated and the Iranians all rise up, cheer and replace 1.00

00:31:04.940 the government.

00:31:05.940 I mean, only, only someone who is drinking heavily from the wrong material is going to believe

00:31:11.180 such a thing, but that's widespread.

00:31:14.080 So I think the truth is this, if what I just described happened, if the Israelis become involved

00:31:21.340 with that, the Iranians will respond and they have thousands of missiles capable of doing 1.00

00:31:28.580 enormous damage to Israel. 0.84

00:31:30.780 They will, they will use those.

00:31:32.260 They will launch them in great numbers.

00:31:33.760 Then we will come in to try and subdue the Iranians. 1.00

00:31:38.240 And if we do that, the Russians will come into the war because they will not stand by and 1.00

00:31:44.220 watch us and the Israelis pulverize Iran out of existence. 0.99

00:31:47.480 And at the same time, all the Arab states, I think, will then finally act.

00:31:52.860 That includes Egypt, Jordan, the Saudis, the Emirates, all will act against Israel. 0.58

00:31:59.580 I think at that point, it would be very difficult for the Turks, who thus far have played both

00:32:04.960 sides to the middle in their attempts to benefit from American support if they have, if they

00:32:12.000 cooperate with Israel.

00:32:13.140 They, too, will be in a position that makes it almost impossible for them not to come in

00:32:18.780 against the Israelis. 0.76

00:32:20.080 That's why I had hoped that by now, President Trump would have intervened and said, that's

00:32:23.740 it.

00:32:24.140 I'm sorry.

00:32:25.140 I've gone as far as I can go.

00:32:27.440 This thing in Gaza must end. 0.91

00:32:30.140 He stopped. 0.94

00:32:30.820 We're not going to supply any more munitions, any more equipment to kill these people.

00:32:35.560 But he hasn't done that.

00:32:37.220 I'd hoped that he would intervene and say, 3.5 or 2 or 4, whatever percent uranium enrichment

00:32:44.360 is going to be allowed is sufficient for us.

00:32:47.340 And if you don't like it, you're going to have to learn to live with it.

00:32:51.520 But again, I keep waiting for the American first president to show his cards.

00:32:57.560 Hasn't happened.

00:32:58.340 And finally, Colonel McGregor, you explained to us what the American people could do with

00:33:03.680 regard to Ukraine, Russia, how they could incur as a president that way.

00:33:08.980 What can the Americans do to help the president to come to resolution on Gaza?

00:33:15.300 And do you even think that's possible, given that he has, you know, these mega, mega donors

00:33:19.960 from the Israel lobby?

00:33:22.080 Well, there's also something else to be considered.

00:33:23.880 Americans have been treated to at least two and a half to three decades of systematic preparation 0.87

00:33:31.840 to hate Arabs and Islam.

00:33:35.500 That's important to understand. 0.99

00:33:37.000 They've only seen the ugly face, the evil face, if you will, of Islam in the form of ISIS and 1.00

00:33:46.620 terrorism and so forth. 0.98

00:33:48.360 They've been propagandized to believe that Iran is the mother of all terrorism, which

00:33:52.840 is not true, has never been the case.

00:33:54.860 And they keep telling you that Iran and the region is very much the same as it was 46 years ago.

00:34:01.200 It's not.

00:34:02.480 Things have changed there dramatically.

00:34:04.960 So that's a huge problem.

00:34:06.700 So Americans aren't sure because they're not hearing, you know, the alternative story.

00:34:13.080 Now, some of the evangelical support that he's had is ebbing, as some of these people who

00:34:20.100 describe themselves as Christians are beginning to ask whether or not the teachings of Christ

00:34:25.460 justify mass murder and expulsion of people from Gaza.

00:34:30.580 I would think that answer is self-evident.

00:34:34.360 But apparently for millions, it's not.

00:34:37.440 So that all, too, has to be considered.

00:34:39.860 Again, this is where the president has to demonstrate leadership.

00:34:46.020 He has to impose his will.

00:34:48.260 This is so important, John, if I may call you John.

00:34:51.220 Please.

00:34:51.800 Presidents are expected to impose their will.

00:34:55.160 That's why they were elected as chief executives.

00:34:58.080 Imposing your will means if you don't follow me, there'll be a price paid.

00:35:04.360 And presidents have done that in the past.

00:35:07.100 The problem right now in connection with the Middle East, when the president sits down with

00:35:10.900 his advisers and says, how many senators can I count on to support me?

00:35:16.680 The answer is a much smaller number than the number of senators who could be counted upon

00:35:21.780 to support Netanyahu.

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00:35:53.080 Finally, I just wanted to ask you, I know you're also a man of prayer.

00:36:00.540 Tell us about that in your life and the possibility of still the people of God reaching out to our

00:36:08.200 Lord for help, even in the midst of what seems like crazy negotiations and possible world war.

00:36:16.220 Where is that place for prayer in the American life right now?

00:36:19.380 Prayer, and this includes the scientific assessments of prayer, is obviously underestimated.

00:36:27.220 Anyone who has studied prayer, whether you believe in Christianity or any other religion,

00:36:34.660 all of the studies of people who engage collectively in prayer have shown that prayer makes a difference.

00:36:42.180 It actually influences things, influences thinking.

00:36:46.140 And I think prayer needs to be addressed, and we need to pray differently in some respects from

00:36:52.020 the way we have in the past.

00:36:53.500 People want to pray for something, and I think what we need to pray for is some degree of enlightenment

00:36:58.920 and justice and understanding.

00:37:03.060 You know, there used to be something that we referred to, and even when I was in graduate

00:37:07.380 school, we studied it, something called Just War Doctrine, and you can go back through the

00:37:13.380 Catholic Church and find enormous evidence for this.

00:37:17.300 People took it quite seriously.

00:37:19.380 Even the people that entered World War I looked at it carefully, including the Germans and the

00:37:24.580 Austrians, and they all felt that they were justified.

00:37:29.700 Now, this is a different world today, and in many respects at the time they were right.

00:37:36.340 We have to ask whether or not what we want to do as Americans is just.

00:37:43.540 We've got to move away from this sort of knee-jerk reaction.

00:37:47.380 Well, if you don't support the president, you must be one of those people who hates America. 1.00

00:37:54.740 Come on, don't be ridiculous. 0.99

00:37:56.900 I love my country. 0.97

00:37:57.860 If I'm opposed to going to war for reasons that I think make no sense, that doesn't mean

00:38:02.420 I hate America.

00:38:04.100 So when I pray, and I do privately, I pray for understanding, for intelligence, for good judgment,

00:38:14.100 and for justice, and to be a better human being than I am, which is a pretty much of a full-time

00:38:20.580 job if you take Christianity seriously.

00:38:23.300 So I think that's where we ought to focus right now, and I wish churches would focus on that instead

00:38:30.100 of what many of them are doing right now.

00:38:31.860 There are too many out there that are really preaching war on behalf of this Israeli state

00:38:37.780 against millions of people they don't even know or understand.

00:38:40.580 Indeed, that is what has been, I think, for many of us who are in touch with people in the Holy

00:38:47.380 Land, has been so sad.

00:38:50.100 It's been shocking and sad to see the brother Christians of the ancient Christian communities 1.00

00:38:56.260 who are there suffering and dying in Gaza, for them to know that their own brother Christians

00:39:02.260 here in the West are either ignorant of their plight and or see it as somehow a divine mandate

00:39:11.060 to do this, to do what really is the unthinkable genesis.

00:39:17.300 But Colonel McGuire, I want to thank you so very much for your time, which I know is very limited.

00:39:22.180 A great thank you from all of us here, and also encouragement in your great work, and may it continue.

00:39:27.940 And we pledge our prayers for you. May God bless you.

00:39:32.180 Well, thank you so much, and God bless you and everyone that you come into contact with.

00:39:36.500 Amen.

00:39:38.180 God bless you, my friends. Thank you for joining us, and we'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - June 11, 2025

Russia has WON - Ukraine has Already LOST ｜ Colonel Macgregor

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