Satanic Ritual Abuse SURVIVOR Exposes the VATICAN | Rachel Mastrogiacomo
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Rachel Mastrogiacomo was sexually abused by a Catholic priest in the mass when she was a young girl growing up in the 1960s and 70s. She talks about her experience and how she was able to find her way back into the Catholic Church.
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What I came face to face with was actually Satanism within the church.
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It was diabolical ritual abuse of a virgin during the holy sacrifice of the mass.
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Hello, my friends. Welcome to the John Henry Weston Show.
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Today's show is really special, not because we're in Rome, which we are,
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but because we have with us a guest who exemplifies something really neat.
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One of the worst things that people think of, and the reason many people leave the church,
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Some people say, if God could allow that, then obviously he's allowed people to leave the church who wants them to.
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And yet the truth is that despite the most horrific things, our Lord is able to make of them good.
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There's living proof with us today in Rachel Mastrogiacomo.
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She was ritually abused by a Catholic priest in the mass.
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That's the thing that drove so many people to spit at priests,
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to talk about when they talk about priests, like all of the pedophiles,
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And yet, even in that, we have an unbelievable example of not only overcoming it,
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but overcoming it in such a way that there is forgiveness for the offender
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Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
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So, let me start off with this, Rachel, because I think it really is a burning question
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and then just can't, how in the world can this happen?
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Because you, when you speak, I remember hearing you one of the first times,
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It's like, despite everything that happened to you, as I said, the worst for most people.
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A lot of people watching are going to be wondering, how in the world did you get to that place of peace, of joy even, after this?
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How can they encourage other people who have either experienced this, or family or friends of those who experienced this?
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How could we possibly get them, how could we possibly get them to re-embrace the faith when they've gone through, or they know someone who's gone through this?
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It's a tough question, but I'm sure it's no surprise to you when I give all of the credit to the Mother of God.
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She's the co-redemptrix, and if it weren't for my total consecration to Mary when I was a teenager, I don't think that I would be sitting here with you right now, having this conversation.
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So I have to recognize her role, not only my breaking silence and coming out of extreme psychological abuse to the point of, I mean, it was total brainwashing.
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It was a miracle, which I attribute to the Mother of God, that I even broke silence and started to get out of, you know, break down the control that had been established around me.
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I have to begin with honoring the Blessed Virgin Mary and just honestly admitting that this has not been easy.
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It's been 10 to 15 years of just wholehearted cooperation with grace, with the Mother of God, pursuing the sacraments, never turning away, you know, from the faith and receiving from our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Just miracle after miracle, really, and I'm not worthy of the grace which He's bestowed upon me and liberating me from this evil, true evil.
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But also restoring me and healing me so that I can use my voice for others.
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And hopefully, I mean, at the end, I just want to be able to proclaim to a church in crisis that if the Immaculate Heart of Mary could triumph in a soul as poor as mine, I mean, I should be lost.
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But I'm here and it's because of her and, of course, our Lord Jesus.
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If her heart could triumph in a soul as poor as mine, her heart will absolutely, undoubtedly triumph in the life of the church.
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And so I'm just grateful for the opportunity to just share my story.
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If I can stay in the bark of Peter, if I can stay Catholic, anybody can.
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You know, and Catholics are abandoning the faith because of stories like mine.
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But I'm here to say that there's no better time to be Catholic.
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And I've experienced the power of Our Lady, her heel to crush the head of Satan.
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Because as you know, what I experienced, what I came face to face with was actually Satanism within the church.
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Ritual abuse of a virgin during the holy sacrifice of the mass is the coin of the realm of the Satanic.
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And Our Lady completely liberated me from the throes of the Satanic.
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And so I'm here just to do my, how could I not proclaim what she has done for me?
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I want to thank you so much for your prayers, for your support for Life State News.
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We're going to continue to fight despite everything they throw at us.
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I would beg for your support so that we can continue this work.
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One of the things, I mean, you mentioned the sort of struggles.
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I'm sure those struggles are there to leave the faith.
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A lot of people, when they come to struggling with God at all, and or having left the faith
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and coming back, how can God allow any evil, for one thing, but then abuse of children,
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and then in the context of the faith, how can God just allow?
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That makes people go, like, have a mind trip because they say, how can any good God allow for this?
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That question, I've been wrestling with it and learning how to integrate it into my being for the whole of my life.
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Because when I was 13 years old, my father died tragically.
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A 13-year-old little girl in me had to face that then, you know, and choose either to rebel
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or to lean into grace and recognize that if it weren't for the death of my father,
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I wouldn't have developed a total dependence on God as my father.
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So there was this sense of, there's an opportunity to be grateful here.
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But through this suffering, I am now grateful that I know God as my father in a far more intimate way
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And so then, you know, you fast forward and then I'm a married young woman and struggling with infertility.
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And infertility could, if I mean, rob me of my faith.
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I think that it robs many women of their faith.
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But through the course of fixing my eyes on Jesus and Mary and pursuing the path that our Lord opened up for me,
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I ended up adopting my beautiful daughter and my son,
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who I would take all the infertility in the world to have my children.
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And so the question is, how do I want to look at this?
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Is God evil or has God allowed me to suffer and identify with Jesus Christ on the cross
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and then be a person of gratitude, a true woman of the Holy Eucharist?
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Do I want to be bitter or do I want to be grateful?
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And I think that our Lord has allowed that, really through the power of the Eucharist and Our Lady,
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And so then it comes to this horrible evil that I endured.
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You know, and some would say, how could you maintain the faith after that?
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It's been 10 to 15 years of healing and of liberation and of processing this trauma.
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But I'm at a point where I can say, thank you, Jesus.
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Because if it weren't for this horrible evil, I wouldn't be exposing what I'm exposing.
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And, you know, I'm humbled that Jesus would allow me to bear witness to his mother
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and the power of your heel in the way that I can do because of what I experienced.
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You know, and when I was a kid, all I wanted to do was be a missionary.
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But I feel, though, I believe in the depths of my heart and soul that Jesus is calling me to be a sort of a missionary
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in a weird way to the heart of the church and to proclaim really Our Lady of Fatima's message
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in the heart of the church amidst this crisis in the church right now.
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So when I was a kid saying, Lord, send me, send me, I never thought that he'd send me into this mission.
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But, you know, looking back now, after 15 years of restoration, healing, liberation,
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I can say thank you, Jesus, for sending me into this diabolic underbelly so that I can bear witness to the Virgin Most Powerful
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It's amazing if there's any mission in the church that's difficult.
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It's funny because I think of it more as there's missions to go to the poor, to go to the persecuted poor,
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to go to the disabled and the abandoned and the orphans and everything else.
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This mission, it's like going into the heart of darkness because in a real way, the spiritual torture,
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the spiritual deprivation that's being perpetrated by the hierarchy is a worse crime than anything else.
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It's that quote from St. John Eudes about when God really wants to show his castigation,
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his worst punishment in the world, he gives you bad priests.
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It's not he gives you tempests and storms and earthquakes and starvation.
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And so you really are a missionary in the heart of darkness.
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I mean, that's really where your mission lies in a kind of unbelievable way.
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Have you been able to witness and maybe even see an effect of your witness in this area
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with regard to bishops or church leaders to take sort of seriously their job,
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to stomp out these evils, to make them take it seriously?
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Because we know painfully that, you know, 2002 happened, Boston happened,
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and they said, oh, we're going to do whatever, everything, everything, everything.
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Like it was basically, oh, yes, we're going to take it seriously.
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And we just learned here that Leo himself was involved in this kind of thing,
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himself, let alone letting other people do the whole shuffle them on game.
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It doesn't, sometimes we're sent to missionaries and don't get to see it.
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Have you seen any movement in the bishops and priests you ministered to?
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Clearly, there's been no indication that bishops or other church leaders are taking definitive
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steps to address these abuses, other than to continue to try to cover them up and discredit
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You know, so part of the reason why I'm breaking silence is to inspire other victims to come forward,
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because we're never going to restore the church unless these deep dark secrets are dragged
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So it's actually a mercy to the church, you know.
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But if you really love the church, why are you, you know, airing her dirty laundry?
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And I want to tell other victims, especially those who do love the church and they don't
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want to, you know, because believe it or not, many victims are still faithful Catholics.
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I've been walking with several of them over the past decade or so.
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It takes real grace to recognize that if you truly love the church, you will cooperate with
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Jesus Christ in bringing this to the light, telling the truth, and really fighting for
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Holy Mother Church and being the ones to, you know, bear the cross in some way and be misunderstood.
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You know, many people think that I'm an enemy of the church or whatever by being a whistleblower.
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To tell the truth, to fear no man, and to expose what I'm exposing.
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At the end of the day, I will stand before Jesus Christ.
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I don't think that anyone who would say that...
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I thought, you know, maybe we're finally past those days where everyone's like, hush, hush,
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And by trying to hide it, it's the dumbest thing.
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Because then everybody just goes, see, they're trying to hide it.
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The movement to do the mea culpa, which was done.
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Please, don't apologize for offending the ecology or the planet or something.
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This area where they have done some apologies, but then when it continues, and then when
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they play the games, like with McCarrick and stuff, and just, oh, he's leicized now, so
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So we need to obviously get them to address that.
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But one of the questions, at least as it pertains to this issue of clergy abuse, people are trying
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They're trying to figure, okay, what really can they do?
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A lot of parents, I guess, would have said, hang them or something like that.
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But from your perspective, from the perspective of a victim and someone who's been there and
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you've actually come through it, which I think is a total miracle, what do you suggest that
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As you know, I don't expect to defeat Satanism.
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I don't expect to, you know, I'm just here to tell the truth and hopefully die with a
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But I have been at this for long enough to kind of know who to trust and who not to trust,
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even within the church and even within advocacy groups, especially those who have suffered
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Not even every exorcist is capable of handling ritual abuse cases or extreme cases such as my
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And so I do have, I guess, some insight as far as that.
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Groups like Purify the Church continue to show and argue that these clerics who abuse,
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facilitate abuse, and cover up abuse are not acting in accord with the deposit of the faith.
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They're not conducting themselves as a Catholic priest or bishop should, and as such cannot
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expect the church to defend them or to pay for the damages caused by their criminal activities.
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Or allow them to remain in their official capacities.
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Groups like 490 Consulting continue to investigate, facilitate, and advocate cases of abuse for those
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victims who have experienced satanic ritualistic abuse at the hands of clergy.
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And so I encourage victims of SRA or ritualistic abuse.
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So abuse that's done, you know, similar to my own, there's a lot of different various forms
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But I really urge them to seek out groups like Purify the Church or 490 Consulting, because
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even in my own recovery, you know, I found myself going to different places within the church,
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advocacy group that didn't even acknowledge what truly happened to me.
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And that is extremely harmful to the overall process of healing for a victim of extreme abuse.
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And not everybody in the church, not even every exorcist in the church,
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believes that there are actually satanic practitioners operating within the priesthood
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You know, that's why I'm trying to kind of break this open and open this dialogue to help
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facilitate healing for victims and point them in the right direction, if that makes sense.
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I just interviewed Rob Morrow on his book about Father Melike Martin.
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And it was Father Martin who really blew the whistle on this early on, the satanic rituals
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But, you know, it was in the context of a novel.
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And many people thought, maybe he's doing some artistic license and exaggerating some things.
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But your stories, the stories of others that are just...
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But I think the best speakable thing is the conclusion.
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Your conclusion is the triumph of the Immaculate Heart
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inside of what looks like the impossible situation.
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It's, you were asked to grow through a crucible suffering that very few are asked to go through.
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And you are to be the example of how you can come out on the other side, how you can love
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Despite, and not only despite, but with that suffering.
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Rachel, I just want to thank you on behalf of so many out there who you've touched with
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And you've given not only them hope, but hope to hopefully bring their family, their friends
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who have been affected by this crisis, which is widespread, back to church.
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I want to thank you for giving me a voice, just a platform where I can use my voice, for
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I've been stonewalled and silenced, even by Catholic media.
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But you have been someone who's been brave enough.
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There are so many people in the laity that want to turn a blind eye to this.
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And of course, in the priesthood, but there are good priests.
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And of course, Bishop Strickland, who has believed me, stood with me, said, you know,
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And I'm just so grateful also to Libra Cristo Press, who had the courage to publish my book
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when no other publishing company had the courage to do so.
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So a lot of this really comes down to moral courage.
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And my story, in some weird way, acts almost like a sword.
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The majority of people don't want to go near it.
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But then there's a few brave souls, such as yourself.
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And your eyes are fixed on Jesus through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
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And so I'm just grateful that I can share my small story in service to her.
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