The John-Henry Westen Show - February 15, 2022


Separating fact from fiction: Here's what Trudeau can and cannot do under the Emergencies Act


Summary

In this episode, we talk to Kennedy Hall about the Emergency Measures Act, and how it relates to martial law in Canada. We also talk about the GoFundMe campaign, and whether or not it's a good or bad thing.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Kennedy Hall, thanks for joining us.
00:00:04.520 Thanks for having me on.
00:00:05.620 It's cold and loud where you are, eh?
00:00:07.980 It is.
00:00:08.840 You can see by our breath coming out of our mouths that despite the beautiful sunshine,
00:00:13.380 it is still quite frigid.
00:00:15.140 Our poor cameraman Miles here, his fingers are all red and numb.
00:00:18.600 So anyway, tell us, Kennedy, about this Emergency Measures Act.
00:00:22.540 We've had all sorts of people talking to us about, you know,
00:00:25.240 oh, we've declared martial law, we've, you know, this is the War Measures Act,
00:00:28.760 he's declaring war on Canadians.
00:00:30.320 What is going on?
00:00:31.360 What's it really all about?
00:00:32.460 It's the Emergencies Act.
00:00:33.680 It's the remix of the War Measures Act that was used during World War I, World War II,
00:00:40.040 and during the FLQ, La Frande à la Libération de Québec.
00:00:43.000 It was like a pseudo-terrorist organization.
00:00:45.700 I think they did end up kidnapping and killing a politician.
00:00:47.960 They were bad news.
00:00:48.940 And that was Justin Trudeau's father who used that.
00:00:52.240 You could debate whether or not it should have been used at the time,
00:00:53.960 but nonetheless, there was a legitimate threat to national security.
00:00:56.560 In any case, the Emergencies Act is not the same thing necessarily as martial law.
00:01:02.280 Now, I'm not trying to say that it's not bad,
00:01:04.260 but I also just I don't think it's helpful if we're not measured about what's actually happening.
00:01:08.600 Okay, so what's happening is the Emergency Act,
00:01:11.180 it is a set of legislation that gives various stipulations
00:01:15.320 where a leader of the country could enact certain powers,
00:01:20.760 but they're very limited,
00:01:22.600 and they can only react to certain situations.
00:01:24.900 So, for example, if you invoke the Emergencies Act,
00:01:28.900 you invoke it for a particular purpose.
00:01:31.260 So just because the Emergencies Act contains in it something like,
00:01:34.960 you know, a terrorist or something threat to national security,
00:01:38.800 that doesn't mean that the powers that you would be given for that apply to everything else.
00:01:42.680 So it seems like the Prime Minister is using it for the matter of public welfare,
00:01:48.660 and public welfare is not the same thing as public safety.
00:01:52.540 It's not the same thing as threats of violence.
00:01:54.620 So whatever he's going to do, he has to have it within that stipulation.
00:01:59.540 It seems like he said yesterday that basically they're going to try to go after the money.
00:02:03.020 What's interesting, too, is the Emergency Act does not give the Prime Minister any police powers.
00:02:11.140 So he cannot tell the military to go and just do something carte blanche.
00:02:15.920 He cannot tell, I don't even think he can tell the RCMP,
00:02:18.140 because they're technically under provincial jurisdiction when they're operating, if I'm not mistaken.
00:02:23.100 I think the only federal agency that is federal completely is CSIS.
00:02:27.960 That's a whole other conversation.
00:02:28.800 So he can't tell the cops to go in and beat everybody up.
00:02:33.700 He can't tell the RCMP to go in and shoot everybody.
00:02:36.020 That's not in there whatsoever.
00:02:37.720 Now, people might say, well, Trudeau doesn't care about the law.
00:02:40.160 Well, that might be the case, but he is invoking it, so he's trying to use it, and that's what it says.
00:02:44.020 One of the things they did, Kennedy, was they wrote in a special provision to go after crowdfunding platforms.
00:02:51.140 Obviously, you know, give, send, go now holding the bag, as it were, and being doxxed and everything else.
00:02:57.320 It's, you know, we have our own life funder, and of course, at first, the GoFundMe refused of their own accord,
00:03:03.620 but they're really going after this, and it seems that's written in now.
00:03:08.060 But even there, there's a lot of questions, because give, send, go is not based in Canada.
00:03:11.880 The Emergencies Act does not give Trudeau emergency power over another nation.
00:03:15.380 It doesn't take over sovereignty.
00:03:17.120 So, I mean, what they're basically saying is that they're going to give the banks the power to monitor transactions,
00:03:25.300 and if they think they're a part of this thing that they're deeming criminal, then they can seize the funds.
00:03:31.220 Okay, fair enough.
00:03:31.860 Let's just say that that's what they're going to do.
00:03:34.020 I'm not really sure how that can be done effectively.
00:03:37.260 I mean, the money is in the United States of America.
00:03:39.580 If it's in the give, send, go, they can't monitor money in the United States.
00:03:44.180 They don't have the jurisdiction to do so.
00:03:45.600 I don't know how you would effectively monitor money coming into the country in cash gifts in private bank accounts
00:03:52.140 that don't come from give, send, go.
00:03:54.960 I mean, the truckers are very savvy people.
00:03:57.160 They've got lawyers.
00:03:58.100 They've got consultants.
00:03:59.160 They've got doctors.
00:03:59.980 They've got literally one of the former premiers who helped write the Constitution of Canada,
00:04:04.900 the Charter Rights and Freedoms, is on their side.
00:04:06.900 They know the law very well.
00:04:08.060 Well, I'm not trying to give any suggestions here, so Trudeau, don't listen to me here.
00:04:12.760 But I mean, if someone was to just put the money into an account in a different country
00:04:17.240 and that person were to send a cash gift and it was just from an anonymous person,
00:04:21.440 there would be no, without some sort of really in-depth, we're talking like 9-11 investigation.
00:04:28.980 Without something like that, I'm not really sure what they hope to accomplish by this.
00:04:32.260 The truckers are saying they believe this is a scare tactic, and it definitely is scary.
00:04:35.480 But there are a lot of questions about how this is going to be regulated.
00:04:39.700 It doesn't look easy at all.
00:04:40.960 I mean, TD Bank made the application to give the money, the $1 million that came into the account so far,
00:04:46.800 to the courts.
00:04:47.760 That's held up.
00:04:49.220 We had reports that there's a pastor out of Alberta who had his bank accounts frozen
00:04:54.680 after he appeared on Tucker Carlson supporting the truckers, and apparently it's from the Emergency
00:04:59.220 Measures Act.
00:04:59.880 But none of that is yet confirmed.
00:05:02.220 And even though it can be acted upon once declared, it was declared yesterday, and the
00:05:07.400 freezing of his account happened yesterday.
00:05:09.560 Tell us about the needed clearances and things that have to happen yet before, you know,
00:05:15.400 this can just go ahead with, about the Senate clearance and stuff like that.
00:05:19.420 There actually are stipulations about how this thing is supposed to work.
00:05:23.200 So the prime minister can declare an emergency.
00:05:25.820 It's kind of, this might be an analogy here, it's sort of the way child services works.
00:05:29.360 Okay, if you talk to a police officer about how child services works, child services can
00:05:33.140 actually go into a home when they think that a child is under duress or something, and they
00:05:38.080 don't have to have the police or a warrant to do so.
00:05:40.160 Um, but that doesn't justify illegal action.
00:05:43.960 So if they do so, and then it turns out that they were unjustified in doing so, they can
00:05:47.700 be severely disciplined.
00:05:49.060 It's just the stipulation is there.
00:05:50.680 In theory, there's an emergency.
00:05:52.280 If there are bombs dropping on Ottawa, the premier doesn't have to wait seven days in
00:05:55.740 parliament to say, we should probably protect citizens from bombs.
00:05:58.260 They can just go out there and do something.
00:05:59.780 That's kind of the idea.
00:06:00.740 But in a situation like this, what he has to do is he now has to present the thing to
00:06:04.180 parliament.
00:06:05.040 Uh, it's unclear about what he can do in the next seven days.
00:06:07.880 There is a week, uh, parliament has to, um, basically say yay or nay to this within a
00:06:13.140 week.
00:06:13.600 I don't know the extent of what he's allowed to do within that week because I do know he
00:06:16.960 has to justify it to parliament.
00:06:18.540 There have been numerous legal professionals, both on the left and the right.
00:06:21.840 The Toronto star, which we call the red star is the communist reg of Canada.
00:06:25.420 It may as well be the New York times combined with the Washington post and the Trudeau star
00:06:28.780 perhaps.
00:06:29.580 Yeah, it's, it's Pravda.
00:06:30.740 It's Pravda.
00:06:31.160 That's all it is.
00:06:31.640 They've come out and said, and this is their editorial.
00:06:33.860 So this is their paper's position saying this is a really bad idea.
00:06:36.820 They hate the truckers.
00:06:37.880 They hate, they hate anybody who doesn't want to get 17 vaccinations, but they say
00:06:42.260 from a legal perspective, this is very dice is a bad idea.
00:06:44.760 The Toronto sun, the Ottawa sun said the same thing.
00:06:46.800 The national post said the same thing.
00:06:49.040 Um, even in a CPC, the communist, you know, Canadian broadcasting corporation, there were
00:06:54.840 a lawyer's opinion saying this is, I don't know how they're going to justify this.
00:06:58.280 It doesn't meet.
00:06:59.080 Uh, it's very sort of legal inside baseball.
00:07:01.560 Um, but it's very dubious.
00:07:03.600 They can apply this and the actual Senate is not majority, uh, liberal at all.
00:07:09.300 Most of them are independents.
00:07:10.340 And the only political party in there that's officially affiliated is the conservative party
00:07:14.400 of Canada who are vehemently against this.
00:07:16.260 And even if it does go through the parliament and does go through the Senate in a timely
00:07:19.840 manner, it is, it is, uh, permissible.
00:07:22.340 And I think it actually is required if it's desired to have an immediate constitutional
00:07:26.400 challenge that has to go to the highest courts.
00:07:29.240 We are in for a very legal mess and it is far from certain what's going to happen.
00:07:33.420 Yeah, I was also hearing today that several premiers have come out against the Emergency
00:07:37.720 Measures Act as well.
00:07:38.880 Yep.
00:07:39.380 Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and Quebec.
00:07:42.080 Uh, Doug Ford has not, surprising, but that's not insignificant.
00:07:46.680 And, uh, one of the allies right now against Trudeau is actually the province of Quebec and
00:07:52.240 the Bloc Québécois, which is the Quebec Nationalist Party.
00:07:54.680 But the reason is, and it's, I understand the reason, it's about sovereignty.
00:07:57.820 And again, let's just, for the sake of argument, you know, let's give the best strongman
00:08:02.520 argument we can here to try to see how this could be represented.
00:08:05.260 I can see the logic behind using special police powers for things that happen at borders.
00:08:11.460 I don't agree with the animus towards the border protests right now because I believe
00:08:16.120 that the, you know, that the, the, the impetus behind it is justified for freedom and so forth.
00:08:20.260 However, borders are technically a national thing.
00:08:23.600 Let's just take that as it is.
00:08:25.100 So I can see how a lawyer for the government could say, well, we have to have smooth travel
00:08:30.120 between our borders for reasons of national security and so forth.
00:08:32.860 I get the logic behind it.
00:08:34.260 But the thing that's happening in Ottawa, this is not affecting the nation.
00:08:37.800 It's only in one province.
00:08:39.220 There is no violence.
00:08:40.840 It's a protest.
00:08:41.900 And also in the Emergencies Act, it's very clear that, um, constitutional, i.e.
00:08:47.100 charter rights have to be respected.
00:08:48.940 Um, which we say to ourselves, well, they haven't respected them at all over the last two
00:08:54.300 years.
00:08:54.480 Well, that may be true, um, but the federal government herself hasn't actually done much
00:08:59.300 over the last two years.
00:09:00.260 It's been the provinces.
00:09:01.640 Um, so this is uncharted territory.
00:09:03.380 You know, people keep saying, well, this is like a globalist test case and they're just,
00:09:06.800 but you know, when the Toronto star, when the Trudeau star comes out and says, this is bad,
00:09:11.640 you've pretty much lost almost all of the media, except for a few zealots on television.
00:09:15.700 Um, I'm not really sure what they're trying to accomplish with this.
00:09:18.360 No, it's incredible.
00:09:19.660 Yesterday, the conservatives put forward the measure to get rid of all the mandates.
00:09:23.780 It's the, they were supported by the bloc.
00:09:26.320 Unfortunately, unbelievably in a way, the NDP went with the liberals because the NDP
00:09:31.160 were supposed to be the party of the working men.
00:09:33.300 And here are all these working men and women who are away from their families.
00:09:38.080 Uh, it's just incredible stuff happening here.
00:09:40.840 LifeSite has got a ton of video out there.
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00:09:52.900 Kennedy, thanks for being with us.
00:09:54.300 All right.
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