The John-Henry Westen Show - Separating fact from fiction： Here's what Trudeau can and cannot do under the Emergencies Act

00:00:00.000 Kennedy Hall, thanks for joining us.

00:00:04.520 Thanks for having me on.

00:00:05.620 It's cold and loud where you are, eh?

00:00:07.980 It is.

00:00:08.840 You can see by our breath coming out of our mouths that despite the beautiful sunshine,

00:00:13.380 it is still quite frigid.

00:00:15.140 Our poor cameraman Miles here, his fingers are all red and numb.

00:00:18.600 So anyway, tell us, Kennedy, about this Emergency Measures Act.

00:00:22.540 We've had all sorts of people talking to us about, you know,

00:00:25.240 oh, we've declared martial law, we've, you know, this is the War Measures Act,

00:00:28.760 he's declaring war on Canadians.

00:00:30.320 What is going on?

00:00:31.360 What's it really all about?

00:00:32.460 It's the Emergencies Act.

00:00:33.680 It's the remix of the War Measures Act that was used during World War I, World War II,

00:00:40.040 and during the FLQ, La Frande à la Libération de Québec.

00:00:43.000 It was like a pseudo-terrorist organization.

00:00:45.700 I think they did end up kidnapping and killing a politician.

00:00:47.960 They were bad news.

00:00:48.940 And that was Justin Trudeau's father who used that.

00:00:52.240 You could debate whether or not it should have been used at the time,

00:00:53.960 but nonetheless, there was a legitimate threat to national security.

00:00:56.560 In any case, the Emergencies Act is not the same thing necessarily as martial law.

00:01:02.280 Now, I'm not trying to say that it's not bad,

00:01:04.260 but I also just I don't think it's helpful if we're not measured about what's actually happening.

00:01:08.600 Okay, so what's happening is the Emergency Act,

00:01:11.180 it is a set of legislation that gives various stipulations

00:01:15.320 where a leader of the country could enact certain powers,

00:01:20.760 but they're very limited,

00:01:22.600 and they can only react to certain situations.

00:01:24.900 So, for example, if you invoke the Emergencies Act,

00:01:28.900 you invoke it for a particular purpose.

00:01:31.260 So just because the Emergencies Act contains in it something like,

00:01:34.960 you know, a terrorist or something threat to national security,

00:01:38.800 that doesn't mean that the powers that you would be given for that apply to everything else.

00:01:42.680 So it seems like the Prime Minister is using it for the matter of public welfare,

00:01:48.660 and public welfare is not the same thing as public safety.

00:01:52.540 It's not the same thing as threats of violence.

00:01:54.620 So whatever he's going to do, he has to have it within that stipulation.

00:01:59.540 It seems like he said yesterday that basically they're going to try to go after the money.

00:02:03.020 What's interesting, too, is the Emergency Act does not give the Prime Minister any police powers.

00:02:11.140 So he cannot tell the military to go and just do something carte blanche.

00:02:15.920 He cannot tell, I don't even think he can tell the RCMP,

00:02:18.140 because they're technically under provincial jurisdiction when they're operating, if I'm not mistaken.

00:02:23.100 I think the only federal agency that is federal completely is CSIS.

00:02:27.960 That's a whole other conversation.

00:02:28.800 So he can't tell the cops to go in and beat everybody up.

00:02:33.700 He can't tell the RCMP to go in and shoot everybody.

00:02:36.020 That's not in there whatsoever.

00:02:37.720 Now, people might say, well, Trudeau doesn't care about the law.

00:02:40.160 Well, that might be the case, but he is invoking it, so he's trying to use it, and that's what it says.

00:02:44.020 One of the things they did, Kennedy, was they wrote in a special provision to go after crowdfunding platforms.

00:02:51.140 Obviously, you know, give, send, go now holding the bag, as it were, and being doxxed and everything else.

00:02:57.320 It's, you know, we have our own life funder, and of course, at first, the GoFundMe refused of their own accord,

00:03:03.620 but they're really going after this, and it seems that's written in now.

00:03:08.060 But even there, there's a lot of questions, because give, send, go is not based in Canada.

00:03:11.880 The Emergencies Act does not give Trudeau emergency power over another nation.

00:03:15.380 It doesn't take over sovereignty.

00:03:17.120 So, I mean, what they're basically saying is that they're going to give the banks the power to monitor transactions,

00:03:25.300 and if they think they're a part of this thing that they're deeming criminal, then they can seize the funds.

00:03:31.220 Okay, fair enough.

00:03:31.860 Let's just say that that's what they're going to do.

00:03:34.020 I'm not really sure how that can be done effectively.

00:03:37.260 I mean, the money is in the United States of America.

00:03:39.580 If it's in the give, send, go, they can't monitor money in the United States.

00:03:44.180 They don't have the jurisdiction to do so.

00:03:45.600 I don't know how you would effectively monitor money coming into the country in cash gifts in private bank accounts

00:03:52.140 that don't come from give, send, go.

00:03:54.960 I mean, the truckers are very savvy people.

00:03:57.160 They've got lawyers.

00:03:58.100 They've got consultants.

00:03:59.160 They've got doctors.

00:03:59.980 They've got literally one of the former premiers who helped write the Constitution of Canada,

00:04:04.900 the Charter Rights and Freedoms, is on their side.

00:04:06.900 They know the law very well.

00:04:08.060 Well, I'm not trying to give any suggestions here, so Trudeau, don't listen to me here.

00:04:12.760 But I mean, if someone was to just put the money into an account in a different country

00:04:17.240 and that person were to send a cash gift and it was just from an anonymous person,

00:04:21.440 there would be no, without some sort of really in-depth, we're talking like 9-11 investigation.

00:04:28.980 Without something like that, I'm not really sure what they hope to accomplish by this.

00:04:32.260 The truckers are saying they believe this is a scare tactic, and it definitely is scary.

00:04:35.480 But there are a lot of questions about how this is going to be regulated.

00:04:39.700 It doesn't look easy at all.

00:04:40.960 I mean, TD Bank made the application to give the money, the $1 million that came into the account so far,

00:04:46.800 to the courts.

00:04:47.760 That's held up.

00:04:49.220 We had reports that there's a pastor out of Alberta who had his bank accounts frozen

00:04:54.680 after he appeared on Tucker Carlson supporting the truckers, and apparently it's from the Emergency

00:04:59.220 Measures Act.

00:04:59.880 But none of that is yet confirmed.

00:05:02.220 And even though it can be acted upon once declared, it was declared yesterday, and the

00:05:07.400 freezing of his account happened yesterday.

00:05:09.560 Tell us about the needed clearances and things that have to happen yet before, you know,

00:05:15.400 this can just go ahead with, about the Senate clearance and stuff like that.

00:05:19.420 There actually are stipulations about how this thing is supposed to work.

00:05:23.200 So the prime minister can declare an emergency.

00:05:25.820 It's kind of, this might be an analogy here, it's sort of the way child services works.

00:05:29.360 Okay, if you talk to a police officer about how child services works, child services can

00:05:33.140 actually go into a home when they think that a child is under duress or something, and they

00:05:38.080 don't have to have the police or a warrant to do so.

00:05:40.160 Um, but that doesn't justify illegal action.

00:05:43.960 So if they do so, and then it turns out that they were unjustified in doing so, they can

00:05:47.700 be severely disciplined.

00:05:49.060 It's just the stipulation is there.

00:05:50.680 In theory, there's an emergency.

00:05:52.280 If there are bombs dropping on Ottawa, the premier doesn't have to wait seven days in

00:05:55.740 parliament to say, we should probably protect citizens from bombs.

00:05:58.260 They can just go out there and do something.

00:05:59.780 That's kind of the idea.

00:06:00.740 But in a situation like this, what he has to do is he now has to present the thing to

00:06:04.180 parliament.

00:06:05.040 Uh, it's unclear about what he can do in the next seven days.

00:06:07.880 There is a week, uh, parliament has to, um, basically say yay or nay to this within a

00:06:13.140 week.

00:06:13.600 I don't know the extent of what he's allowed to do within that week because I do know he

00:06:16.960 has to justify it to parliament.

00:06:18.540 There have been numerous legal professionals, both on the left and the right.

00:06:21.840 The Toronto star, which we call the red star is the communist reg of Canada. 0.78

00:06:25.420 It may as well be the New York times combined with the Washington post and the Trudeau star

00:06:28.780 perhaps.

00:06:29.580 Yeah, it's, it's Pravda.

00:06:30.740 It's Pravda.

00:06:31.160 That's all it is.

00:06:31.640 They've come out and said, and this is their editorial.

00:06:33.860 So this is their paper's position saying this is a really bad idea.

00:06:36.820 They hate the truckers.

00:06:37.880 They hate, they hate anybody who doesn't want to get 17 vaccinations, but they say

00:06:42.260 from a legal perspective, this is very dice is a bad idea.

00:06:44.760 The Toronto sun, the Ottawa sun said the same thing.

00:06:46.800 The national post said the same thing.

00:06:49.040 Um, even in a CPC, the communist, you know, Canadian broadcasting corporation, there were

00:06:54.840 a lawyer's opinion saying this is, I don't know how they're going to justify this.

00:06:58.280 It doesn't meet.

00:06:59.080 Uh, it's very sort of legal inside baseball.

00:07:01.560 Um, but it's very dubious.

00:07:03.600 They can apply this and the actual Senate is not majority, uh, liberal at all.

00:07:09.300 Most of them are independents.

00:07:10.340 And the only political party in there that's officially affiliated is the conservative party

00:07:14.400 of Canada who are vehemently against this.

00:07:16.260 And even if it does go through the parliament and does go through the Senate in a timely

00:07:19.840 manner, it is, it is, uh, permissible.

00:07:22.340 And I think it actually is required if it's desired to have an immediate constitutional

00:07:26.400 challenge that has to go to the highest courts.

00:07:29.240 We are in for a very legal mess and it is far from certain what's going to happen.

00:07:33.420 Yeah, I was also hearing today that several premiers have come out against the Emergency

00:07:37.720 Measures Act as well.

00:07:38.880 Yep.

00:07:39.380 Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and Quebec.

00:07:42.080 Uh, Doug Ford has not, surprising, but that's not insignificant.

00:07:46.680 And, uh, one of the allies right now against Trudeau is actually the province of Quebec and

00:07:52.240 the Bloc Québécois, which is the Quebec Nationalist Party.

00:07:54.680 But the reason is, and it's, I understand the reason, it's about sovereignty.

00:07:57.820 And again, let's just, for the sake of argument, you know, let's give the best strongman

00:08:02.520 argument we can here to try to see how this could be represented.

00:08:05.260 I can see the logic behind using special police powers for things that happen at borders.

00:08:11.460 I don't agree with the animus towards the border protests right now because I believe

00:08:16.120 that the, you know, that the, the, the impetus behind it is justified for freedom and so forth.

00:08:20.260 However, borders are technically a national thing.

00:08:23.600 Let's just take that as it is.

00:08:25.100 So I can see how a lawyer for the government could say, well, we have to have smooth travel

00:08:30.120 between our borders for reasons of national security and so forth.

00:08:32.860 I get the logic behind it.

00:08:34.260 But the thing that's happening in Ottawa, this is not affecting the nation.

00:08:37.800 It's only in one province.

00:08:39.220 There is no violence.

00:08:40.840 It's a protest.

00:08:41.900 And also in the Emergencies Act, it's very clear that, um, constitutional, i.e.

00:08:47.100 charter rights have to be respected.

00:08:48.940 Um, which we say to ourselves, well, they haven't respected them at all over the last two

00:08:54.300 years.

00:08:54.480 Well, that may be true, um, but the federal government herself hasn't actually done much

00:08:59.300 over the last two years.

00:09:00.260 It's been the provinces.

00:09:01.640 Um, so this is uncharted territory.

00:09:03.380 You know, people keep saying, well, this is like a globalist test case and they're just,

00:09:06.800 but you know, when the Toronto star, when the Trudeau star comes out and says, this is bad,

00:09:11.640 you've pretty much lost almost all of the media, except for a few zealots on television.

00:09:15.700 Um, I'm not really sure what they're trying to accomplish with this.

00:09:18.360 No, it's incredible.

00:09:19.660 Yesterday, the conservatives put forward the measure to get rid of all the mandates.

00:09:23.780 It's the, they were supported by the bloc.

00:09:26.320 Unfortunately, unbelievably in a way, the NDP went with the liberals because the NDP

00:09:31.160 were supposed to be the party of the working men.

00:09:33.300 And here are all these working men and women who are away from their families. 0.98

00:09:38.080 Uh, it's just incredible stuff happening here.

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00:09:52.900 Kennedy, thanks for being with us.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - February 15, 2022

Separating fact from fiction： Here's what Trudeau can and cannot do under the Emergencies Act

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