The John-Henry Westen Show - Sr. Wilhelmina’s student speaks out about God and suffering

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00:00:30.000 She told them, exhume my body. You'll see something really cool. Just pick it up. Come on.

00:00:39.660 Kept appearing in their dreams, telling them, you need to do this.

00:00:50.860 Hey, my friends, there are a couple of fascinating stories we're going to hit today.

00:00:53.800 And with the same source, because actually the same young lady who was with Sister Wilhelmina,

00:01:01.220 remember the founders of the traditional order that was just found to be incorrupt?

00:01:07.160 Well, one of her former postulants or one of the people who knew her well,

00:01:13.840 also happens to be the sister of that priest of the fraternity of St. Peter who was murdered.

00:01:22.200 So we're going to get two fascinating stories, all from one source.

00:01:27.200 Stay tuned to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.

00:01:32.400 Sasha Keyes, welcome to the program.

00:01:34.100 How are you?

00:01:35.020 Good, good. Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.

00:01:38.840 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

00:01:45.060 So, Sasha, if you could start, tell us about Sister Wilhelmina.

00:01:49.200 Who is she, first of all? 0.89

00:01:50.960 And if you could tell us the story, what happened now with her being found to be incorrupt?

00:01:57.660 When I met them, they were still in what they consider the founding years.

00:02:02.260 It was after they had begun their order of the Oblates of Mary, Queen of the Apostles,

00:02:09.720 and had moved to Shehola to be near the Society of St. John.

00:02:15.760 They were an order of priests that were trying to start a religious community of people with a Catholic,

00:02:23.140 traditional Catholic atmosphere, to raise their family in a safe place.

00:02:31.200 And the sisters were contemplating the idea of starting a school there,

00:02:35.600 but it wasn't feeling like it was the right path for them.

00:02:39.380 So, I made my visitation there, and that's where I met Sister Wilhelmina.

00:02:46.560 I was put directly under her care right away, and she taught me to iron.

00:02:52.020 And it's a lot more complicated than you think.

00:02:54.460 I was starting out with just the scapular and the tunic that they wear.

00:03:02.860 And after a while, she put me on wimples, and that was hard.

00:03:08.400 And she was not satisfied with my work at all.

00:03:11.640 She had to work me through step-by-step every part of it.

00:03:15.320 And if I did it just the way she did it, it turned out nicely.

00:03:18.700 But if I did one thing wrong, the whole thing was crazy, because it fits directly to the head.

00:03:25.400 I learned when I entered the order that you actually have to shave your head very close to the scalp.

00:03:31.740 My hair was shorter, much shorter than yours underneath the wimple, because it fits your head.

00:03:37.960 If it grows, it starts to cut off here, so it makes it kind of hard to breathe.

00:03:42.520 You have to cut your hair often for it to fit right.

00:03:48.700 And then, of course, there's the veil that just kind of paints the top of the place down.

00:03:54.460 Wow.

00:03:55.060 So Sister Wilhelmina was the founder of this order?

00:03:59.860 Yes, she was.

00:04:01.460 Technically, Sister Therese and Sister Anna-Marie were already trying to start the order.

00:04:08.480 However, Bishop Timlin felt they needed to have experience,

00:04:12.620 somebody who had a firm foundation and understanding of the process of

00:04:17.340 the different steps of growing as a nun.

00:04:24.540 She needed to have years of experience.

00:04:28.120 And Sister Wilhelmina definitely does have. 0.67

00:04:31.620 Okay.

00:04:33.680 Go ahead.

00:04:34.600 So she, you were telling me earlier, she wasn't, even though she was the foundress,

00:04:40.840 she wasn't sort of the head of it.

00:04:43.480 She wasn't the one in charge.

00:04:45.840 No.

00:04:46.360 When I entered the convent, she was the one who did the laundry, the darning of socks and 0.89

00:04:52.020 clothing, fixing any hairs or whatnot that was in them.

00:04:57.220 And she also sewed a lot of the habits, but she didn't do a lot of the stuff that the other 1.00

00:05:05.440 sisters did, mostly probably because of age.

00:05:09.520 She was in her seventies.

00:05:12.460 But she, she didn't work on the vestments and she didn't make decisions for the sisters. 1.00

00:05:20.800 Sister Therese, Sister Elizabeth and Sister Nancyada were the ones who mainly did all the

00:05:26.380 decision-making, but Sister Therese, of course, was the superior.

00:05:31.960 We didn't call her mother because we weren't in a place where the order was allowed to call

00:05:38.560 her mother.

00:05:39.660 It was still a group of religious women that were together. 0.61

00:05:44.060 We hadn't made it through the next process.

00:05:48.300 With new orders, there's a lot of processes to go through.

00:05:52.200 Sorry, I'm not very good at protecting those cultures.

00:05:55.060 No, that's great.

00:05:55.840 But tell us about, I mean, it's neat to have interacted with a saint.

00:06:01.040 In your case, two saints.

00:06:02.040 But let's talk first about Sister Wilhelmina.

00:06:06.040 God's chosen her in a special way as he revealed to everyone after the fact by, you know, miraculously

00:06:14.680 keeping her body incorrupt.

00:06:16.360 So what was she like?

00:06:18.680 What was it?

00:06:19.200 You mentioned that when she was teaching you ironing, she'd sometimes be rather strict

00:06:25.700 with you or making sure it was done in the right way.

00:06:28.180 How did that go?

00:06:29.180 And in retrospect, what do you think of it now?

00:06:33.960 Oh, gosh.

00:06:35.400 As strict as she was about doing things right, she and herself was not a strict person.

00:06:42.620 The way I would describe her was a feisty, sassy, tiny nut. 1.00

00:06:48.820 She was very small, much shorter than I am.

00:06:53.460 And I'm 5'3".

00:06:54.860 She was definitely under the 5-foot range in the 4-foot range. 0.99

00:07:02.960 And it wasn't all because she hunched a little bit.

00:07:05.860 It was definitely that she was a tiny person.

00:07:08.560 But for all her tininess, her character made up for that.

00:07:11.600 She was very spunky and liked to sass as Dutreza a lot. 1.00

00:07:16.760 But in a kind way, she was never mean about it.

00:07:21.260 She just, it was mostly making fun of herself in a sense and her shortcomings, which speaks

00:07:27.680 highly of her humility.

00:07:30.920 She taught me to read publicly because when I became a novice, I needed to read the Martyrology

00:07:42.380 and the Rule of St. Benedict during the crime.

00:07:45.260 And we said all the divine office in Latin.

00:07:50.480 And I struggled a lot, especially with the Martyrology.

00:07:54.340 There are some very big names there.

00:07:57.660 And reading it aloud, I was like, whoa, what am I doing?

00:08:00.820 I've never done this before.

00:08:02.780 And being that in her prior order, she was a teacher for many years.

00:08:08.540 She thrived on teaching.

00:08:10.240 She was very good.

00:08:12.060 One of the better teachers that I've ever had.

00:08:14.360 And she was able to help me to project my voice, to pronounce the words, to break them

00:08:22.660 up, and to learn to look ahead as I'm reading.

00:08:26.780 And she also decided that since my writing wasn't so good, she helped me with that a little

00:08:32.900 bit.

00:08:33.900 In the Order of St. Benedict, we always take reading and learning and just expanding our

00:08:40.740 knowledge in part of what we are.

00:08:43.620 I mean, it's just, and I say we are, because in a sense, I never really left that frame of

00:08:50.300 mind, because I still do a lot of the things that I did in the convent.

00:08:54.700 And one of the things she was most keen that all the sisters do was to read the book, St.

00:09:02.420 Louis de Montfort, Slave of Mary. 0.81

00:09:04.760 And that is built into what we do in the Order.

00:09:08.800 Every part of our lives fears us for being a slave of Our Lady.

00:09:13.840 So there's a little bell that rings every hour.

00:09:17.300 And if we're not seeing the Divine Office, we fall on our knees and re-offer our lives

00:09:22.420 to Our Lady as slaves to Our Lady. 0.88

00:09:24.820 And that is just part of everything that is with the sisters.

00:09:30.480 They're very much in following Our Lady's life and her wonderful work with the apostles,

00:09:38.240 because the entire dedication of the Order is for priests, which is amazing, because Father

00:09:45.660 Kenneth is very much a part of all of that.

00:09:47.960 We pray for the priests.

00:09:52.840 We make vestments for priests.

00:09:54.280 We would have a place for them to come and stay and rejuvenate and be able to go back out

00:10:03.220 and do their work again.

00:10:04.940 And that was all Sister Wilhelmina who brought that about.

00:10:09.280 I mean, that was what she felt we were called to do.

00:10:13.260 And that started long before she even started this Order.

00:10:16.520 It was back in the time when she realized that she was heading down the wrong path.

00:10:24.740 The sisters were taking their habit and changing it.

00:10:28.740 The hair started showing, and instead of it completely covering the forehead, these skirts

00:10:35.100 became shorter.

00:10:36.240 She talked about her frustrations with sisters were even curling their hair underneath their

00:10:41.620 wimple.

00:10:42.680 And she was just like, I can't understand it.

00:10:45.160 But she had a complete change of heart and was able to express that.

00:10:52.420 But when she met the Pope at one point, Pope John Paul II, and there was letters that were

00:11:02.680 back and forth between her and his secretary at times.

00:11:05.680 And they were encouraging her to stay strong with her vocation and to hold true to her wanting the habit.

00:11:17.280 It had a great contention in her order, her previous order.

00:11:21.320 And that is why Bishop Timlin felt she was the perfect choice, was because here these two nuns were,

00:11:29.700 Sister Therese and Sister Anna Marie, wanting to start a traditional order to help the fraternity

00:11:36.500 of St. Peter.

00:11:38.040 And here this nun was trying so hard to remain traditional in every aspect of life, including 0.93

00:11:45.580 the Mass, and he felt she was a perfect fit.

00:11:49.620 When Sister Therese and Sister Anna Marie came to visit, she did not feel it was a perfect fit.

00:11:56.140 And they went back and they're like, Bishop, this isn't going to work.

00:11:59.280 She's not right.

00:12:00.860 And meanwhile, she's like, this is perfect.

00:12:03.420 I'm going.

00:12:04.340 Told her superiors, I'm going to go.

00:12:06.040 This is perfect for me.

00:12:07.560 They're like, okay, we'll start looking at the process.

00:12:10.400 She packed her bags and she left. 0.69

00:12:12.780 No permissions.

00:12:14.620 I know that a lot of people say that she had permission, but that happened after Bishop

00:12:20.520 Timlin had just moved away for her a little bit.

00:12:23.340 But she showed up on their doorstep and she's like, I'm here.

00:12:27.400 And the way she tells me, she's like, when I was walking out the door, I saw some of the

00:12:33.320 sisters that had been particularly mean to me.

00:12:36.040 And I told them, I'm going.

00:12:38.160 I found the right order for me.

00:12:40.060 And I'm going to go and I'm going to like wear the habit and you guys can do whatever

00:12:44.260 you want.

00:12:44.720 I'll see you.

00:12:45.800 And that, that was just the way she was very sassy to the end. 1.00

00:12:52.180 When I went to, yeah.

00:12:54.800 When I went to visit her after her body was exhumed, it was incredible.

00:13:02.080 The smell of almost a myrrh oil.

00:13:06.520 I wouldn't say it was an incense because it wasn't smoky.

00:13:10.560 And I wouldn't say it was floral, but it gave you a sense of floral.

00:13:14.440 It was just no flower could make that smell.

00:13:16.780 It came from her body and just filled the church.

00:13:23.620 And as I knelt in the church where her body was right beside her and I was praying for

00:13:30.800 her and for, I don't know, just a sense that she would understand why I left when I left because

00:13:41.720 I wasn't able to say goodbye to everyone.

00:13:44.880 I heard her voice and she told me that it was all right.

00:13:52.880 The sisters were sad for a time, but they were all right now.

00:13:56.900 They understood why I left.

00:13:59.240 And I was like, sister?

00:14:02.660 And she's like, yeah, it's me.

00:14:03.880 The way she talked to me.

00:14:08.440 I mean, it wasn't like I could hear the voice.

00:14:10.380 It was more of an internal kind of voice, the way I sometimes hear my brother.

00:14:16.500 Because he's told me a few things and I've gotten to hear his voice again, which is cool.

00:14:22.100 But sister Wilhelmina was as sassy as ever. 0.61

00:14:26.860 And she told me that she would be with me like my brother's with me and that she would

00:14:33.620 answer my prayers.

00:14:35.640 I just had to pray for it, ask for it.

00:14:38.540 I get that a lot.

00:14:39.760 I've got to remember, ask for the things that I'm wanting answered.

00:14:44.740 So she's definitely with.

00:14:48.460 Yeah.

00:14:49.420 Apparently she did that with the sisters. 0.97

00:14:51.200 She told them, exhume my body. 0.63

00:14:55.620 You'll see something really cool.

00:14:58.000 Just pick it up.

00:14:59.020 Come on.

00:15:00.100 Kept appearing in their dreams, telling them you need to do this.

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00:16:18.260 And now, back to the program.

00:16:21.360 It was totally stunning to me, because you know that the church is in this big debate

00:16:27.020 about the Latin Mass and about traditional orders, and there's a lot of them being shut

00:16:32.280 down, and so on and so forth.

00:16:35.240 In the middle of all of that happening, there is this, like, God votes on the issue.

00:16:45.300 Exhumed is the body of a nun who couldn't stand that they were going anti-tradition.

00:16:51.360 So came and founded another order that's traditional, and he makes her body incorrupt.

00:17:00.380 That was just so neat.

00:17:02.020 Your story is stunningly fascinating.

00:17:08.380 There's a lot of questions I have about Sister Wilhelmina and about what life was like with

00:17:14.380 her.

00:17:15.300 What was she like in prayer?

00:17:17.820 Were you able to experience that with her at all?

00:17:19.700 Yeah, she was very humble in prayer.

00:17:23.820 Her poems speak very much of her prayers.

00:17:29.000 She actually had visits of Our Lady. 0.82

00:17:33.560 Our Lady came to her on more than one occasion.

00:17:36.280 This I didn't know during my time with her since reading her book, and I still haven't finished

00:17:44.040 it yet, because I'm like, oh, this is fascinating.

00:17:47.640 I'm going to share this.

00:17:48.660 I'll call everybody, and then I'm like, oh, I've run out of time to read now.

00:17:53.160 But there's so many fascinating things in her life.

00:17:56.020 I would highly recommend reading her book, which the sisters have on their website.

00:18:03.860 She was visited by Our Lady in 1926 for the first time, which was when she was two years

00:18:13.200 old.

00:18:14.540 And Our Lady was all in white.

00:18:17.300 And it was on one of the days that Our Lady appeared to the children of Fatima on a Saturday

00:18:27.760 devotion.

00:18:29.480 So Our Lady didn't really speak to her so much as just gave her the sense that she was protected

00:18:36.900 and that love and love.

00:18:40.860 And just this beautiful, overwhelming sense of joy for her.

00:18:45.840 And it turned her world.

00:18:48.680 There were times when she would know things.

00:18:53.120 She knew that her brothers needed prayers right away and ran to her mother crying, saying,

00:19:00.640 Mom, Mom, we need to pray.

00:19:02.160 We need to say the rosary right now.

00:19:04.540 And her mom, realizing something was happening, prayed the rosary with her daughter.

00:19:09.660 And later when the brothers came in, she's like, OK, what happened?

00:19:13.740 They're like, nothing.

00:19:14.460 Everything was fine.

00:19:16.420 And she's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:19:18.040 What happened?

00:19:19.040 And they're like, OK, well, the boat capsized and we almost drowned.

00:19:23.420 But we made it to shore.

00:19:24.620 I don't know how we made it to shore, but we made it to shore.

00:19:28.620 So, yeah.

00:19:30.740 Her prayers are very powerful, even in life.

00:19:33.380 And she would always fold her hands like this and punch her shoulders in and bow her head. 1.00

00:19:42.900 And I started noticing that when the host was raised, she had this practice of raising her eyes with the host and then bringing them back down and just kind of internalizing the joy that God was there and she was about to receive.

00:19:57.500 And the same thing when he puts the chalice again and all the sisters started doing it, following her example.

00:20:05.940 And I just love that we all did this.

00:20:08.140 And I think everyone at St. Michael's noticed that we did this and started emulating that in a sense.

00:20:17.140 And I do that still to this day.

00:20:18.700 Just this overwhelming, you know, the actions of what we do help to remind us that the presence of God in the tabernacle is true and real.

00:20:34.920 And by taking an action every time we go, it kind of reminds us all again just how real his presence is.

00:20:44.120 It's like seeing the male removed movie that they put out about the blessed sacrament, seeing all the angels, lady, and how when he raises that hose, he changes from the priest to God himself in the form of the second person.

00:21:06.880 And it's just a beautiful reminder of how our actions can remind us of the spiritual side of things.

00:21:18.160 And that is what she did.

00:21:19.540 Every action she took was very much reminded in prayer.

00:21:24.820 She wasn't always able to stand with all the sisters because she was older and had health issues. 0.96

00:21:33.740 But she was so frustrated about that.

00:21:36.080 She wanted so much to stand with the sisters, do everything the sisters did.

00:21:41.180 She wanted to just keep going.

00:21:42.520 She's like, I can do it, sister.

00:21:44.180 I know I can.

00:21:45.580 And Sister Therese would be like, no.

00:21:48.100 She would listen to Sister Therese.

00:21:50.240 She would be obedient.

00:21:52.180 Not always, though.

00:21:54.120 There was one time we were praying, offering ourselves as a slave to Our Lady, as we did every hour.

00:22:07.000 And when I stood up, Sister came out of her room. 0.99

00:22:10.560 And she's like, Sister, Sister.

00:22:12.080 Oh, Benedicite.

00:22:13.180 Because I had to have permission to speak.

00:22:15.220 And I would always ask permission like this to my superior.

00:22:19.040 And the superior would say, Benedicite.

00:22:21.480 And she'd say, Benedicite.

00:22:24.180 I've got a poem.

00:22:25.240 You've got to read this.

00:22:26.460 So I read the poem.

00:22:27.520 It was beautiful.

00:22:28.240 It happens to be on the very cover, just on the inside cover of her book.

00:22:33.220 That is the poem she read to me.

00:22:34.800 It's beautiful and fun.

00:22:37.000 Her poems have a simplisticness to them that just even a child can understand.

00:22:42.700 It reminds me of the poems my mother used to say.

00:22:45.380 And after reading it, we were talking about it.

00:22:47.640 And then Sister Trez comes up the stairs. 1.00

00:22:50.180 And she looks at Sister Wilhelmina.

00:22:51.900 And Sister Wilhelmina goes, oh. 0.91

00:22:53.760 And she grabs her prayer book.

00:22:54.920 And she turns.

00:22:55.620 And she kind of tiptoes into her room.

00:22:57.860 Like, uh-oh.

00:22:58.600 I got in trouble.

00:23:00.080 And I look at Sister Trez.

00:23:01.420 And she puts her hand on her hip.

00:23:02.580 And so I go down on the floor.

00:23:04.740 And I kiss the floor.

00:23:06.580 And it turns out she was supposed to be napping.

00:23:10.860 There were times that she was naughty.

00:23:14.800 I would say I was much worse than she was.

00:23:17.440 But I think both of us had a childlike sense about us in the convent.

00:23:26.600 And we both kind of stayed true to that childlike innocence during that entire time.

00:23:32.580 I think that's one of the reasons why we get along so well.

00:23:36.120 We got into trouble together sometimes.

00:23:39.360 One of the things that I find so fascinating is that she was, as you said, sassy or joyful kind of mischievous.

00:23:51.180 And then when she talks to you from heaven, she's the same.

00:23:58.520 And that's great.

00:24:01.700 Because I think a lot of people assume that, you know, in heaven we'll become like automatons.

00:24:07.640 We'll lose our personalities.

00:24:09.560 But they're still there.

00:24:12.420 I, you know, it's like I can't wait to hear what nickname our Lord will have.

00:24:17.860 Our Lord was very fond of nicknames.

00:24:19.500 Sons of Thunder.

00:24:20.820 And all this stuff.

00:24:23.120 And it'd be, you know, it's great.

00:24:26.260 The saints still have their same disposition or whatever that they have when they're here.

00:24:33.080 The same personality, if you will.

00:24:35.980 Even in heaven.

00:24:37.560 So that's a really neat insight.

00:24:40.920 Before we, before we move to your brother, I wanted to ask you, because you're obviously not a nun. 0.97

00:24:48.400 You are, you have five children of your own right now.

00:24:51.960 How did that happen?

00:24:53.040 Why did you leave the convent?

00:24:54.220 You seemed to be so happy there.

00:24:55.760 What was going on?

00:24:56.400 Well, when I became a novice, everything was so wonderful.

00:25:01.480 And I found myself entering a deeper state of understanding and prayer, which I've been trying hard to reach back to that point.

00:25:12.060 It took me a while, but I think I'm getting there.

00:25:14.380 It was a new understanding and joy in actually experiencing the negative side of things.

00:25:24.140 And hard to describe, but there was joy in suffering, not in going out and trying to hurt yourself.

00:25:32.160 No, it was more like I get punished.

00:25:35.820 And there was a sense of joy in the humiliation of the punishment or in the experience that this would help me with my humility.

00:25:48.600 Or there was a joy in the humility.

00:25:51.460 It's hard to describe.

00:25:52.720 There was a joy in it that is beyond anything in this life.

00:25:57.780 And when I experienced that, I also came to an understanding that this is momentary.

00:26:03.920 This is to prepare you for a time when our Lord wasn't going to be talking to you.

00:26:09.760 A lot of the saints talk about it, particularly St. Therese and Mother Teresa.

00:26:17.580 They talk about this darkness of the soul.

00:26:21.040 And always preceding the darkness of the soul is a moment of euphoria where God helps them to experience the good thing,

00:26:30.020 to help them understand that the time of darkness is painful, but there's light at the end of the tunnel.

00:26:38.240 Just remember those good times.

00:26:41.640 So I went through the darkness of the soul.

00:26:45.060 And during that darkness, a pain erupted in my chest.

00:26:49.720 And I found myself laying down on the floor in the convent.

00:26:54.320 And it was very painful.

00:26:56.120 I couldn't breathe.

00:26:57.060 I couldn't move.

00:26:58.740 And eventually, after experiencing several of those episodes, the pain went to my stomach.

00:27:04.980 And while the pain in my chest would go away, the pain in my stomach did not go away.

00:27:09.160 And for months, I endured the pain.

00:27:15.400 We tried chiropractic care.

00:27:18.320 And then the sisters brought me to the doctor.

00:27:20.920 And the doctor did cat scans and many different cats, blood tests.

00:27:25.640 And they couldn't find anything.

00:27:26.920 And they said, try going to a psychiatrist and see what they say.

00:27:31.520 I went and had several visits with a psychiatrist that was recommended by the diocese.

00:27:39.640 And he gave me a clean bill of health.

00:27:43.280 He said I was remarkably strong.

00:27:46.120 So we assumed that it was possible that our Lord was just giving me, how do I refer to it, the endurance test of the novitiate.

00:28:02.120 I was a novice.

00:28:05.340 As a novice, you're given trials and tribulations to endure.

00:28:09.540 As the sisters look on and see if you will withstand the test that God sends.

00:28:16.120 We assumed that it was possible these tests were part of that.

00:28:21.260 So for the next several months, I kept enduring the pain.

00:28:26.060 And then one day something strange happened.

00:28:29.200 I was punished.

00:28:31.480 I got to say, it was a lot like Sister Maria from The Sound of Music.

00:28:36.980 I would sing on stairs and climb trees.

00:28:40.460 And I had tears in my uniform.

00:28:43.200 And sometimes I would forget to put my uniform away.

00:28:47.540 And I wasn't exactly perfect.

00:28:51.020 I had a wild side that I couldn't seem to tame.

00:28:56.200 The sisters all found it in good fun.

00:28:58.480 But it was not very mature of me.

00:29:02.120 So one of my punishments was rather interesting.

00:29:09.120 And it did follow the rule of St. Benedict.

00:29:11.640 I was told to sit in the laity's pew away from the sisters for prayer.

00:29:19.600 And I was to sit separate from the sisters for mealtime.

00:29:23.080 And during that time, it came to me that I should go home.

00:29:32.460 And it was a very difficult decision.

00:29:34.900 But I pushed myself to go up to the sisters while they were having a meeting.

00:29:42.520 And I told them I needed to go home.

00:29:45.660 The next day, before any of the sisters woke up, my parents came to pick me up.

00:29:51.200 And I went home.

00:29:53.220 And it happened to be my birthday.

00:29:55.400 Which was completely forgotten by me in the midst of all of the other stuff.

00:30:00.000 And eight days later, something incredible happened.

00:30:08.140 My mother had a baby.

00:30:10.580 And this would be my half-brother.

00:30:13.960 Because we are a yours, mine, and ours family.

00:30:18.320 She asked me to be there.

00:30:20.820 Which was very different.

00:30:26.360 She had a midwife there. 1.00

00:30:28.140 Who, for the first time, described, in a Catholic way, what giving birth really was.

00:30:36.900 And how Our Lady felt as a tabernacle.

00:30:43.080 And the connection she had to her son.

00:30:48.820 In a rather spiritual sense.

00:30:51.660 I've recently come across information that says it's not just spiritual, but physical.

00:30:56.000 That we literally have a piece of our child that is left within us.

00:31:02.680 Just as they have a piece of us left in our child.

00:31:06.680 And that there is going to always be a physical and spiritual connection with our child.

00:31:12.040 Our Lady was literally a tabernacle for her whole life. 0.80

00:31:18.240 Because you literally cannot take that part of our Lord out of her.

00:31:23.540 That's probably why she was assumed body and soul into heaven.

00:31:28.440 It's just one of the many beautiful things that I was shown in that moment.

00:31:32.200 And it changed my view on motherhood completely.

00:31:37.180 And yes, I was reminded by my family many times.

00:31:40.240 You need a husband too. 0.98

00:31:41.420 So, I decided to just try working with kids for a while.

00:31:46.480 So, I became a nanny.

00:31:49.040 And eventually, after college and trying out many different things in life and traveling many places.

00:31:57.900 I received a letter from my husband to be.

00:32:01.240 And we wrote many letters back and forth.

00:32:04.160 And eventually got married.

00:32:05.800 And now I have five kids.

00:32:06.980 And they're all wonderful kids.

00:32:12.900 Amazing.

00:32:13.520 So, that's one of the wonderful things in store for me.

00:32:18.940 Hey, my friends.

00:32:19.760 Now is the time to stand up and fight.

00:32:22.240 We are just about to have the Synod on Synodality.

00:32:25.700 And everything that you've seen indicates that it's going to be an absolute disaster.

00:32:31.620 We have Father James Martin as a personal appointee of the Pope speaking at it.

00:32:36.980 We've got Cardinal Cupich, Cardinal Tobin.

00:32:40.460 These picks of the Pope to engage in this Synod are indicative of where we're going.

00:32:47.300 We're going into heresy.

00:32:49.640 And at these times of great crisis, the Church, especially those called in the laity to work for the glory of Christ and His Church, are called to gather and strategize.

00:33:02.940 Back in 2014, LifeSite launched something called Rome Life Forum.

00:33:07.140 It was a gathering at that point of some 75 life and family leaders from all around the world to strategize as to what we could do.

00:33:15.600 And when we gathered, the majority of people were most concerned about what?

00:33:20.020 About Pope Francis, about what was going on in Rome.

00:33:23.960 But this was 2014.

00:33:25.420 But the life and family leaders saw it first.

00:33:30.180 Now, a decade on, we are confronted with some of the most severe challenges the Church has ever faced.

00:33:37.600 And so, our tradition at LifeSite is to continue with Rome Life Forum, which has continued every year until we had to take a break over COVID because we weren't permitted.

00:33:46.480 But we're starting it up again.

00:33:49.040 Please come, if you feel so called, to Rome, October 31st and November 1st, the very end of the Synod on Synodality.

00:33:59.120 And we'll be there to strategize with His Eminence, with His Excellency, and with many life and family leaders from around the world.

00:34:08.420 For LifeSite News, this is John Henry Weston.

00:34:10.660 And may God bless you.

00:34:11.360 So, let's talk about this half-brother of yours.

00:34:19.100 What was his name and what did he do?

00:34:21.180 Father Kenneth Walker.

00:34:23.900 And to me, he's Kenny and will always be Kenny.

00:34:27.640 I love his name, Father Kenneth Walker.

00:34:31.240 But it's hard to break the habit of Kenny when you spend so much time with him.

00:34:37.600 I met him when he was eight.

00:34:39.020 And the first thing he said to me was, if you take your hands like this, and you go really fast like this, and you stand on the balls of your toes, your front part of your foot, you can run faster than any other way.

00:34:57.000 And then he proceeded to show me. 0.79

00:34:59.340 He was a goofy kid.

00:35:00.360 And then we proceeded to become best friends and closer siblings.

00:35:08.920 Even before our parents married or received their annulments and then married, which is a miraculous story in itself because St. Joseph had a huge part in that.

00:35:19.540 They got married on his feast day.

00:35:20.920 And then, we were already siblings.

00:35:26.320 I never saw him in any other way than a sibling from the moment I met him.

00:35:32.140 When we played, instead of house, we played church.

00:35:37.960 I was the choir director and he was the priest.

00:35:41.260 And my sister Kelsey was the congregation, much to her dismay.

00:35:45.740 And I wanted to sometimes play the priest part.

00:35:49.620 I'll be honest, that one seemed like the more exciting part.

00:35:53.440 But since a girl can't be a priest, and since I was so good with music, choir director for me.

00:36:01.420 I'm in the choir to this day.

00:36:05.560 And he made such a good priest.

00:36:07.160 We went on many adventures as children, many of which my mother would probably have a lot of gray hair about.

00:36:15.680 We climbed rock cliffs.

00:36:17.400 We were in the mountains.

00:36:18.700 We did all kinds of things.

00:36:21.140 Built forts on the side of those cliffs and even built fires on them following safety rules.

00:36:28.420 We were always very careful about that.

00:36:29.960 We had this fascination with a mountain just across from his grandfather.

00:36:42.720 And he had this telescope.

00:36:45.740 And so we'd heard that there was gold possibly over there.

00:36:49.340 So we started observing this area and discovered that it was the gold mine.

00:36:53.840 And we would watch the people go to and from and take notes.

00:36:59.360 And we were very scientific about the whole thing.

00:37:02.340 But it was our fascination for over a year straight.

00:37:06.120 And we had the logs and logs of this.

00:37:10.280 We spent so much time doing that.

00:37:12.920 But that was just one of the many things we enjoyed doing as children.

00:37:17.380 We used to say that he was so smart that he could spell the world.

00:37:21.640 And then I turned to him and said, Kenny, spell the world.

00:37:24.920 And then, of course, being the youth ball that he is, he'd spell W-O-R-L-D world.

00:37:32.220 But he was really smart.

00:37:34.180 I was two years older than him.

00:37:36.240 And he and I learned everything together.

00:37:40.280 He was smart enough to jump those two grades and learn right along with me.

00:37:45.800 When I entered the convent, he was preparing for college.

00:37:48.840 And up to Barry's Bay, Ontario, he went to Our Lady's Seat of Wisdom Academy.

00:37:57.860 He loved it there.

00:37:59.220 Loved it every minute.

00:38:01.180 A lot of the students I met after, because I went to the same college after he had gone,

00:38:07.000 said that despite the fact that he took on excess classes that were beyond the norm,

00:38:13.560 he would also take the time to teach his fellow students.

00:38:18.660 Many of the girls would be like, he is just a doll because he would sit down and explain things to us

00:38:23.980 that we just couldn't get.

00:38:26.060 He would test us and help us memorize things.

00:38:29.580 I don't know how he had the time to learn everything he was supposed to learn, but he did.

00:38:33.900 And he was constantly seen running from one location to another.

00:38:39.440 So a lot of the students would call him Penny Laflache.

00:38:43.600 A lot of the students that knew him were still going to college when I went.

00:38:48.620 So it was fun to see just how much of a legend my brother was at the college.

00:38:54.220 During my time, I think the only thing that I became known for is the dancing.

00:39:02.700 Because I started a swing club.

00:39:05.520 I even taught the dean how to dance.

00:39:08.280 Mr. Meenan.

00:39:10.580 He was very good.

00:39:11.880 I loved history with him.

00:39:13.960 He brought it to life with his Irish accent.

00:39:17.980 Or Scottish.

00:39:18.920 I couldn't tell you which it was.

00:39:20.300 Because it kind of switched back.

00:39:21.680 But when Kenny entered the seminary,

00:39:31.100 actually, I think I have it written here for just a moment.

00:39:36.180 He had an application in which he says,

00:39:40.640 God, in his infinite love, desires all men to be saved

00:39:45.400 and so achieve their true end.

00:39:48.340 Along with the church, then, I am deeply grieved

00:39:52.600 by these errors concerning the nature and dignity of man,

00:39:57.380 accepted by so many people in the world,

00:40:00.220 which deviate them from their supernatural end.

00:40:03.920 In full view of this situation in the world,

00:40:06.780 then the only vocation that I could be satisfied with as a work

00:40:10.260 would be one that would be dedicated to bringing people to salvation

00:40:14.520 in whatever way God wills for me to do so.

00:40:18.780 This work is best carried out by the priesthood, 1.00

00:40:22.460 which is instituted by Christ specifically for the care of souls,

00:40:27.500 for by means of the sacraments and teaching of the faith to people,

00:40:33.680 the people receive both the truths of the faith

00:40:38.000 and the sanctifying grace needed for spiritual life.

00:40:42.260 That is everything.

00:40:45.640 Those words are exactly who he is in life and in death.

00:40:51.760 When he was alive, he would visit people's home,

00:40:55.520 bringing the statue of Our Lady,

00:40:57.940 the Abram of Fatima statue,

00:41:01.100 and he would bring it to the people's home and pray with them.

00:41:05.780 He was very supportive of the Knights of Columbus.

00:41:10.020 He even did a few talk shows on a radio.

00:41:14.520 I listen to it even now over and over,

00:41:17.440 talking about Our Lady of Fatima.

00:41:19.780 I'm told there are many more, but I haven't yet found them.

00:41:24.040 I hope to eventually get a hold of the radio station that interviewed him.

00:41:27.840 I'm told there are up to 30 different interviews.

00:41:32.920 There's also a YouTube video of a homily that they recorded,

00:41:39.760 which is neat because you get to see him talk.

00:41:44.980 How old was Father Kenny at his ordination?

00:41:49.880 I want to say 24.

00:41:51.200 I know that he was the youngest ever at the time

00:41:59.300 to be a priest for that order.

00:42:03.040 He was very young because he went straight from a year early

00:42:07.660 to be done with high school, straight into college.

00:42:12.700 And from college, he went straight to the seminary.

00:42:15.660 He wanted to go at first straight from high school to the fraternity,

00:42:20.480 but they wisely insisted that he needed a little bit of world-wise knowledge

00:42:26.160 and they suggested college was a good way to do that.

00:42:32.080 He was very young and my mother made most of his vestments.

00:42:39.360 They created his chalice using stones that they bought off of eBay.

00:42:46.040 They're beautiful stones.

00:42:47.000 It's amazing what you find there.

00:42:49.540 I remember helping my mom with the vestments a little bit,

00:42:56.220 but she wanted the honor mostly to just do them all to herself.

00:42:59.800 So other than asking for help occasionally, how do you do this?

00:43:04.180 She did it all herself, which is a beautiful work.

00:43:08.220 My mom is every bit the seamstress that I learned to be in the convent 0.74

00:43:13.980 because a lot of the work that we did in the convent

00:43:17.500 was sewing vestments and all films.

00:43:24.580 When he died, he was 28 years old.

00:43:29.600 I have to double-check that because sometimes I forget.

00:43:32.780 If you wouldn't mind go through that,

00:43:34.980 and I apologize if there's pain associated with that,

00:43:37.800 but if you can tell us the story of how did you die?

00:43:43.100 Well, I see.

00:43:44.800 The building had been closed for the night,

00:43:49.080 and there was a knocking on the door,

00:43:53.140 and Father Tara went to answer.

00:43:56.180 And it was an older man who wanted drugs

00:43:59.180 or whatever he could get his hands on to get drugs.

00:44:02.580 He began beating on Father Tara.

00:44:07.580 Father Tara collapsed,

00:44:09.640 and he went in search of whatever he could find in the vest.

00:44:16.420 Kenny was in his room,

00:44:18.420 and he heard the noise and went to his door,

00:44:21.340 and that's when he met up with the guy.

00:44:24.760 But by that point, he'd gotten a hold of the gun.

00:44:28.060 Father Tara had a gun for safety

00:44:31.500 that he had been trying to get to.

00:44:34.420 Unfortunately, by that point,

00:44:35.840 it was a little too late.

00:44:37.600 He had been already hit very seriously.

00:44:40.660 So now this guy had the gun.

00:44:43.420 And I know that there was a struggle with my brother.

00:44:48.180 My brother, he did have martial art training,

00:44:51.880 but I don't think he used much of it in harming him.

00:44:56.640 I think it was more in the sense of trying to detain him.

00:44:59.560 Because it was all in his fingers

00:45:04.700 that you can see the bruising on him, nowhere else.

00:45:09.980 So he ended up getting shot.

00:45:12.580 I couldn't tell you specifically where,

00:45:15.340 but I know that it was severe enough

00:45:19.860 that he bled up very quickly.

00:45:21.960 The man at that point ran away.

00:45:26.540 And Father Tara came too.

00:45:28.760 He called 911 and then proceeded to give my brother the last rites

00:45:33.600 because there was no stopping the bleeding.

00:45:36.500 He was trying, but there was no stopping.

00:45:38.600 At that point, he doesn't even remember

00:45:42.140 how far he made it through the last rites

00:45:45.440 before he lost consciousness again.

00:45:47.900 It took a long time for him to, for Father Tara to heal

00:45:52.520 because there were so many scars on his head.

00:45:57.960 When I saw my brother,

00:45:59.840 it was after the funeral mass that took place in Arizona.

00:46:05.940 We weren't able to make it out there,

00:46:09.100 but they had a whole funeral mass there.

00:46:12.760 And then we had another funeral mass up here

00:46:15.200 in Maple Hill area.

00:46:18.140 And Hugh's body was buried for a short time

00:46:20.980 on Calvary,

00:46:23.440 which is in St. Mary's.

00:46:26.640 There's a statue there to signify where he was there for a while.

00:46:32.360 And eventually,

00:46:33.920 with the excess money that was given to my family

00:46:36.480 for plane flights to get to the funeral,

00:46:40.580 because most of my family is not well enough

00:46:43.160 to drop everything, come.

00:46:46.460 The money was able to get them here.

00:46:48.360 We had an abundance.

00:46:53.280 So we gave it to the fraternity

00:46:54.820 to work on building a

00:46:57.280 a place to bury it there.

00:47:06.160 Then eventually his body was moved down there

00:47:09.180 along with one other priest

00:47:10.900 that had already passed away.

00:47:12.460 So now I believe there are three priests at this point,

00:47:15.300 but there were two when he was there.

00:47:16.620 And it's a beautiful place

00:47:20.840 right there at the seminary.

00:47:26.500 Now, you said before

00:47:28.620 that your brother had spoken to you

00:47:31.180 also from heaven.

00:47:35.100 How was that and what was that?

00:47:38.580 Well, let's see.

00:47:39.360 It first began not with his voice,

00:47:41.280 but with a rainbow.

00:47:43.060 When I was 21,

00:47:44.920 I told him and my mother

00:47:46.480 that the only thing I wanted

00:47:47.900 was a rainbow.

00:47:50.220 And I got that.

00:47:52.540 And then I started seeing rainbows

00:47:55.860 all over the place

00:47:57.080 every time I would talk.

00:48:00.940 And I started asking for things.

00:48:05.280 I'm asking for prayers for people.

00:48:06.920 And I would get rainbows in return.

00:48:10.300 Most of the time,

00:48:11.240 we started off in the sky.

00:48:13.080 And sometimes they would be

00:48:14.940 just somebody sent me randomly

00:48:17.220 a picture of a rainbow.

00:48:19.260 And sometimes it would just be

00:48:21.340 my kids showing me,

00:48:23.020 look, Mom,

00:48:23.420 I drew a picture of a rainbow.

00:48:26.660 And then Lorraine came to visit me.

00:48:31.600 She was my next door neighbor's aunt.

00:48:34.600 She and I had become friends.

00:48:37.800 She told me that she was dying,

00:48:39.900 that she had cancer,

00:48:41.900 riddled to her whole body.

00:48:44.260 And worse yet,

00:48:45.800 it was in her brain,

00:48:47.160 not operable.

00:48:48.120 And she was so sad

00:48:51.280 because she wouldn't have the time

00:48:53.160 to get things right.

00:48:56.180 She said,

00:48:56.960 I barely begun my bucket list.

00:49:00.740 So I told her about my brother.

00:49:04.640 And I told her to pray to you.

00:49:07.280 And then I would too.

00:49:09.780 So two weeks later,

00:49:12.120 past the point when she was

00:49:13.420 supposed to have died,

00:49:14.400 she shows up.

00:49:16.200 She said,

00:49:16.820 guess what?

00:49:18.120 I went to the doctor

00:49:19.400 because I felt something change.

00:49:22.660 And there was no tumor in my head.

00:49:25.560 It was gone.

00:49:26.660 The cancer was completely gone in my head.

00:49:29.140 It's still in her body.

00:49:31.080 But she had time.

00:49:32.640 She finished everything

00:49:33.600 on her bucket list and more.

00:49:35.680 She had a conversion of the soul.

00:49:38.280 She said she understood things

00:49:40.920 about her faith

00:49:41.900 that she had not been understanding before.

00:49:45.200 And that she finally

00:49:46.260 was able to make things right,

00:49:48.640 go to confession,

00:49:50.420 do exactly what

00:49:51.820 Kenny's vocation was for.

00:49:53.980 And when she passed away,

00:49:59.360 there was a rose bush

00:50:03.460 that was at the bottom

00:50:04.840 of my next-door neighbor's driveway.

00:50:08.820 And he has no idea

00:50:10.020 how it got there.

00:50:11.160 He assumes somebody 0.92

00:50:12.120 just brought it from the funeral

00:50:13.240 or something.

00:50:14.760 He doesn't.

00:50:15.140 So he planted it.

00:50:18.100 But of all places,

00:50:19.180 he planted it in the garden

00:50:20.400 that doesn't grow anything.

00:50:22.920 I mean,

00:50:23.260 he's tried many years

00:50:24.400 to grow things,

00:50:25.340 but nothing grows there.

00:50:27.400 That year it grew.

00:50:29.140 And what was

00:50:30.640 a yellow rose bush

00:50:32.080 that had miniature flowers

00:50:34.180 became a rose bush

00:50:36.040 of many colors

00:50:37.100 with a rainbow array

00:50:39.440 of beautiful roses

00:50:40.900 that were normal-sized roses.

00:50:43.060 They were larger.

00:50:44.820 And they bloomed

00:50:46.160 through the winter

00:50:47.900 in Kansas.

00:50:52.320 All the way through the winter.

00:50:53.660 And it blooms to this day.

00:50:55.320 It doesn't bloom

00:50:56.280 every winter now,

00:50:57.440 but it blooms

00:50:58.660 every summer.

00:50:59.780 And it's still alive

00:51:01.120 and doing well.

00:51:02.440 Wow.

00:51:04.320 Yep.

00:51:04.960 When I first heard

00:51:07.040 my brother's voice,

00:51:08.820 I was at the park

00:51:11.460 and my brother

00:51:13.940 was going through

00:51:14.760 a very difficult time

00:51:16.020 because he was getting

00:51:17.080 an annulment

00:51:17.860 from his marriage

00:51:19.980 that was not working out.

00:51:21.880 I was pretty sad for him.

00:51:24.500 This week,

00:51:24.980 who was this?

00:51:26.580 Another brother of mine.

00:51:28.060 My younger brother,

00:51:28.920 Matt.

00:51:29.980 There are nine of us

00:51:31.260 all together.

00:51:31.780 He was going

00:51:36.380 through a divorce.

00:51:37.480 He had no children.

00:51:38.600 It was just him

00:51:39.400 and his ex-wife.

00:51:42.160 And they were working

00:51:43.400 on an annulment presently.

00:51:46.040 And I saw

00:51:47.360 another girl

00:51:48.820 and I heard

00:51:50.160 Kenny's voice

00:51:50.820 and he said,

00:51:51.840 he's going to marry her

00:51:53.400 and it's going to be good.

00:51:57.200 She's going to heal him.

00:51:58.440 And now,

00:52:00.720 she was in the same

00:52:01.760 convent that I was.

00:52:04.660 Her name is Claire.

00:52:06.880 And they are married now.

00:52:09.420 They are very happy.

00:52:11.240 And it turns out

00:52:12.200 she healed him.

00:52:15.760 Kenny knew.

00:52:17.040 I've heard his voice

00:52:18.200 a few times

00:52:19.120 and

00:52:20.200 it's always

00:52:21.620 with little messages

00:52:22.680 that are positive

00:52:24.100 and good

00:52:24.660 just to remind me

00:52:26.580 that he's there.

00:52:28.260 Sometimes he's

00:52:29.100 like,

00:52:30.320 why haven't you

00:52:30.980 talked to me?

00:52:32.640 I'm still waiting here.

00:52:34.500 I've got a lot of things

00:52:35.500 that I can be doing.

00:52:36.740 You've got to send me

00:52:37.420 more souls.

00:52:38.080 I'm getting bored.

00:52:40.080 He doesn't like

00:52:40.820 when he doesn't

00:52:41.980 have enough souls

00:52:42.840 to be working on.

00:52:44.580 He likes to be given

00:52:45.480 a lot of work.

00:52:46.120 I have a Facebook page

00:52:49.140 that I started

00:52:49.860 for prayers for him.

00:52:52.120 Sometimes people put

00:52:53.640 prayers that have

00:52:54.960 been answered.

00:52:56.320 Sometimes it's just

00:52:57.500 asking for people

00:52:58.400 to pray

00:52:59.020 to Kenny

00:52:59.600 for this intention.

00:53:03.440 There's one family

00:53:04.860 that

00:53:05.380 she had met

00:53:07.800 with a sister

00:53:08.420 that had told her

00:53:10.980 about Kenny.

00:53:11.520 and then

00:53:13.340 immediately after

00:53:14.720 she had met

00:53:15.620 with his sister

00:53:16.140 and heard his story

00:53:17.000 she went outside

00:53:17.640 and there was a rainbow.

00:53:19.460 So she took that

00:53:20.440 as a sign

00:53:20.940 to call her dad

00:53:22.100 and tell him about it.

00:53:24.200 Her dad was suffering

00:53:25.160 from cancer

00:53:26.960 and so

00:53:28.680 he took that

00:53:30.620 to mean

00:53:30.940 that they should

00:53:31.400 pray to him

00:53:32.020 about that.

00:53:33.360 They went outside

00:53:34.200 and on a clear

00:53:35.020 Texas sunny day

00:53:36.420 there was a rainbow

00:53:37.600 in the sky.

00:53:38.960 No cloud.

00:53:39.600 Shortly thereafter

00:53:43.280 another of his children

00:53:44.700 contacted me

00:53:45.680 to tell me

00:53:46.240 that she had

00:53:46.920 a rainbow baby coming

00:53:48.260 which means

00:53:50.020 she had lost a child

00:53:51.220 and that she was

00:53:52.920 now going to have

00:53:53.980 another child

00:53:54.680 and she had been

00:53:56.500 waiting a while

00:53:57.340 to see if this child

00:53:58.940 would stay

00:53:59.540 and

00:53:59.760 to my last knowledge

00:54:01.980 the baby was still there

00:54:03.380 so

00:54:03.780 she was telling me

00:54:05.200 about it.

00:54:07.040 His cancer's

00:54:08.200 on the men

00:54:08.780 he's

00:54:10.960 a slow healing

00:54:12.200 but it is a healing

00:54:13.120 but for fast healing

00:54:16.180 there's a friend

00:54:18.040 of mine

00:54:18.580 who was in

00:54:20.000 the convent

00:54:20.840 not in the convent

00:54:21.920 in the

00:54:23.740 Benedictine

00:54:26.400 monastery

00:54:27.800 in Clear Creek

00:54:28.880 named Dominic.

00:54:30.560 he had cancer

00:54:33.000 and also

00:54:34.420 very short time

00:54:35.460 his family

00:54:37.420 prayed

00:54:38.020 and prayed

00:54:38.660 and

00:54:40.620 suddenly

00:54:42.160 and amazingly

00:54:43.900 the cancer

00:54:44.600 disappeared.

00:54:46.040 There's documentation

00:54:46.980 in everything

00:54:47.820 and that is a

00:54:50.040 pretty cool thing.

00:54:52.500 They've got

00:54:52.860 the doctors

00:54:53.780 saying

00:54:54.400 we don't know

00:54:55.080 why

00:54:55.420 we don't know

00:54:55.960 how

00:54:56.340 but the cancer

00:54:57.080 is gone

00:54:57.560 miraculously

00:54:58.400 so

00:55:00.360 and he's

00:55:01.780 well

00:55:02.620 and

00:55:02.920 creating

00:55:04.240 a series

00:55:05.120 of

00:55:05.720 films

00:55:07.100 for

00:55:07.800 true devotion

00:55:10.300 to the blessed

00:55:10.920 sacrament

00:55:11.520 this time.

00:55:13.040 I'm looking forward

00:55:14.240 to seeing those

00:55:15.000 videos

00:55:15.500 when they come out

00:55:17.200 because they're going

00:55:17.980 to be on

00:55:18.340 Eucharistic

00:55:19.480 miracles

00:55:19.960 and just

00:55:21.700 how amazing

00:55:22.740 God is there.

00:55:23.520 Sasha

00:55:24.060 I want to

00:55:24.480 thank you

00:55:25.120 for sharing

00:55:25.660 with us

00:55:26.120 about

00:55:26.640 your interaction

00:55:28.380 with the saints

00:55:29.040 and they're not

00:55:29.700 proclaimed saints

00:55:30.520 yet

00:55:30.760 but

00:55:31.060 they're obviously

00:55:32.080 very real

00:55:34.440 very alive

00:55:35.060 and

00:55:36.040 very much

00:55:36.620 helping.

00:55:37.420 It's neat

00:55:37.940 to know

00:55:38.420 that they want

00:55:39.120 to hear from us

00:55:39.660 they want to

00:55:40.620 engage with us

00:55:42.280 and do things

00:55:43.720 as you said.

00:55:45.480 Where can we

00:55:46.340 find

00:55:46.780 your Facebook

00:55:48.300 page

00:55:48.680 and

00:55:49.480 how can we

00:55:50.460 get in touch?

00:55:51.480 Well let's see

00:55:52.100 there's two

00:55:54.320 different sites

00:55:55.360 for Penny

00:55:55.900 on Facebook

00:55:57.180 if you just

00:55:58.960 put down

00:55:59.480 Father Kenneth

00:56:00.160 Walker

00:56:00.540 prayers

00:56:01.580 answered

00:56:02.160 that would be

00:56:03.060 mine

00:56:03.400 or just

00:56:04.720 Father Kenneth

00:56:05.380 Walker

00:56:05.780 and both of them

00:56:06.620 will show up

00:56:07.140 and you can

00:56:07.500 join both of them

00:56:08.360 there's a man

00:56:11.980 named John

00:56:12.700 who started

00:56:14.220 the other one

00:56:14.900 and it is he

00:56:16.860 that I rely on

00:56:18.040 when people ask

00:56:18.920 me for relics

00:56:20.060 of Penny's

00:56:20.800 as he does

00:56:23.020 send out

00:56:23.600 a little

00:56:24.480 pulley card

00:56:25.540 with a very

00:56:26.960 small piece

00:56:27.580 of the relic

00:56:28.200 on there.

00:56:30.300 At this point

00:56:31.520 I think

00:56:32.860 they're going

00:56:34.680 through

00:56:35.160 his

00:56:36.100 cassock

00:56:37.280 and using

00:56:38.240 that as a

00:56:39.080 relic

00:56:39.340 the original

00:56:41.480 cassock

00:56:42.080 that he had

00:56:42.840 been wearing

00:56:43.220 that night

00:56:43.740 I believe

00:56:44.720 that my

00:56:45.100 mother

00:56:45.380 has most

00:56:45.960 and she

00:56:47.640 safeguards

00:56:48.380 it close

00:56:48.780 at home

00:56:49.140 she donated

00:56:51.260 his vestments

00:56:52.300 to the priest

00:56:54.260 that needed

00:56:54.900 there have

00:56:55.980 been new

00:56:56.380 vocations

00:56:57.100 because of

00:56:58.880 his story

00:56:59.500 because of

00:57:00.720 parents who

00:57:01.260 have prayed

00:57:01.680 to him

00:57:02.100 to help

00:57:02.960 their sons

00:57:03.880 they discover

00:57:06.000 suddenly that

00:57:06.740 they want

00:57:08.040 to give their

00:57:08.560 lives to our

00:57:09.220 Lord

00:57:09.520 in the fraternity

00:57:10.540 or as a

00:57:12.540 priest

00:57:12.840 and they

00:57:13.160 will go

00:57:14.180 to the

00:57:14.500 seminary

00:57:15.020 so amazing

00:57:16.220 every single

00:57:20.800 miracle that

00:57:21.780 I've ever

00:57:22.300 heard

00:57:22.680 has been

00:57:23.740 for the

00:57:24.140 sole purpose

00:57:24.960 of salvation

00:57:25.940 it may not

00:57:27.580 be for

00:57:28.060 complete

00:57:28.600 healing

00:57:29.020 it may

00:57:30.220 just be

00:57:30.720 for the

00:57:31.040 time

00:57:31.480 to get

00:57:32.340 yourself

00:57:32.720 right with

00:57:33.220 God

00:57:33.520 but

00:57:34.420 it's the

00:57:36.160 time that

00:57:36.660 we need

00:57:37.100 and that

00:57:37.440 is what

00:57:37.780 really

00:57:38.120 counts

00:57:38.760 and it

00:57:40.760 is what

00:57:41.360 his dream

00:57:42.400 was

00:57:42.800 I'm so

00:57:43.800 happy to

00:57:44.340 see that

00:57:44.820 it didn't

00:57:45.740 stop

00:57:46.140 amen to

00:57:48.400 that

00:57:48.640 thank you

00:57:50.560 Sasha for

00:57:50.980 blessing us

00:57:51.460 so very

00:57:51.740 much

00:57:52.040 God bless

00:57:52.840 you

00:57:53.020 thank you

00:57:54.440 and God

00:57:56.500 bless all

00:57:56.820 of you

00:57:57.080 and we'll

00:57:58.180 see you

00:57:58.360 next time

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The John-Henry Westen Show - September 18, 2023

Sr. Wilhelmina’s student speaks out about God and suffering

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