The John-Henry Westen Show - Stopping the Forced Sexual Revolution in Africa

00:00:00.000 Attacks on human dignity, both individually and collectively, in the family and in the community, that's a global issue.

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00:02:45.580 Thank you for LifeSite Africa and how that might have a very significant impact.

00:02:52.200 Well, thank you first for the opportunity, John Henry, to work with the LifeSite family and to bring some of the energy and I would indeed say innovation and wisdom and prayerfulness of the African continent into the full fold of the LifeSite family.

00:03:09.680 About a year and a half ago, I think we first connected and my father had some history with the movement that gave rise to LifeSite News as a medical ethics commentator.

00:03:23.700 And I was always involved in one way or another and I had a career as a diplomat and then in technology as a businessman, all of that being in Asia or most of it.

00:03:36.860 And only more recently I had come to Africa because, again, it was the new continent with new opportunities.

00:03:43.280 In this case, it was with some of the technology work and investment work that we were doing.

00:03:48.720 And I found myself after moving around Africa a little bit, which is huge.

00:03:52.560 It's three times the size of the continental U.S.

00:03:54.620 And it's very diverse and extraordinarily diverse.

00:03:59.000 Nairobi was the logical place because there were some very interesting innovations starting to happen in the area that I was involved in, which is more mobile technology, in the area of mobile banking and so forth and mobile payments.

00:04:11.380 And so that's what brought me to Africa about 10 years ago.

00:04:14.260 And then more recently, again, alluding to that history of interest and support for pro-family and pro-life, I felt strongly that there was a need for a greater connection of that which was happening in Africa, both in terms of the faith in general and those issues as they were evolving.

00:04:34.200 And they were starting to be influenced by global forces for that to be connected to the greater world so that there could be both an awareness of experiences that had been had outside in managing and dealing with and confronting some of the challenges there, as well as indeed inspiration from Africa outward in terms of the enthusiasm and the energy and the spirit that they have for life.

00:04:57.640 And so it was in that regard that we started about a year ago and we have our first associates now who are starting to get involved and trained and reporting and building up their cadre of experience.

00:05:11.220 And it's been, you know, two steps forward, one step back, as it always is in an initial setting.

00:05:16.280 But I think on the whole, and especially since the more the recent visit of yourself and Jim, I think it's been quite an interesting ride and we're just getting started.

00:05:26.720 Amen to that.

00:05:27.840 You know, there was a lot of providence in this latest trip to Africa.

00:05:33.420 We, you know, decided to do that.

00:05:35.540 It's always a hard decision to make to, you know, expand, you know, the expenses.

00:05:40.560 But you always wonder what you're called to do.

00:05:43.480 And it was very interesting, the timing, because we did it, because really of your suggestion.

00:05:50.480 And, you know, it was fortuitous for doing it at that point for you.

00:05:55.240 But then after we book it, we find out that Pope Francis is indeed going there as well, shows up there while we're there.

00:06:05.120 We're able to be, therefore, on that time schedule, able to react immediately to what's gone on with the plane interview on his return trip when we were still in Africa.

00:06:13.660 And then a couple of weeks later, Jill Biden, the first lady of the United States, is there.

00:06:20.960 And in all counts, they're pushing the same anti-life, anti-family agenda that we were just there with the bishops talking about.

00:06:29.080 The Archbishop of Kampala, the Bishop of Ketui in Kenya.

00:06:31.720 And so this was a totally providential timing, such that you had the answer.

00:06:40.140 While the pope was calling out on, in late January, January 25th, calling out the bishops of Africa in need of conversion on these anti-sodomy laws.

00:06:50.180 We were able to get to Africa very shortly thereafter and have the bishops explain their support for these anti-sodomy laws.

00:06:57.020 He then goes away, you know, on on in the early February, again, calling for the same thing.

00:07:05.100 And yet we have the answers at the same time.

00:07:07.300 And then when Jill Biden's there promoting contraception and telling the young people to go and have bring the contraceptive message to their schools and the churches.

00:07:17.180 We're able to garner the reaction from not only Kenyan politicians and but also from church leaders because we have these direct contacts in Africa.

00:07:29.280 So it's been a very providential and very fortuitous for LifeSite interaction already right at the beginning of our working together.

00:07:37.180 So that's truly amazing.

00:07:38.800 But take us deeper, if you will, into Africa and the benefit of being there for LifeSite, for those who love life and family.

00:07:50.600 Well, I see it as from when we were working in the past, I worked in these global technology companies and they would talk about three time zones when they were developing their software to move through the different time zones.

00:08:02.180 And, you know, they'd address all the markets and this was the big expensive vision.

00:08:07.320 In a way, when we're looking at the global challenges of attacks on the on human dignity, both individually and collectively in the family and in the community, that's a global issue.

00:08:21.400 And the defense of life and human dignity has to have a global response.

00:08:27.480 And that global response is really impoverished if it isn't including the Africans. 0.99

00:08:34.040 Now, not simply because of demographics, and we all know the history of that in recent decades.

00:08:39.980 Religion in general, be it any of the Islamic or Christian, Protestant and Catholic, have all found fertile soil and they boomed, so to speak.

00:08:50.140 And we all know about this numerically.

00:08:52.900 And that's part of the demographic of youth of Africa as well.

00:08:56.300 But I think more importantly, there's an insight which comes from an African sense of the balance between the individual and the community, which also is part of the response and also is part of the global solution set.

00:09:14.220 And I think one of the lay leaders that we met was the head of the lawyers and the professional association in Nairobi who put that so well.

00:09:22.820 You know, that in Asia, they have this genius of the rights and the dignity of the community.

00:09:29.220 And in the West, they have the individualism and individual rights.

00:09:32.040 And in Africa, we like to think we bring that together.

00:09:33.860 That's an example of the innovation, if you will, or that different perspective that comes from the cradle of humanity.

00:09:41.360 And so that as much as we are helping and they very much appreciate it, it's amazing how many people follow LifeSite in Africa.

00:09:48.880 I think you found that in Nigeria and in Kenya and all over in South Africa.

00:09:55.840 But at the same time, their ways of responding to and informing their thought and their belief on these challenges to human dignity, I think are inspiring as well for all of us.

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00:10:33.300 And now, back to the video.

00:10:34.720 One of the, I think, neatest opportunities that is there is that, you know, LifeSite's been around now for over 25 years.

00:10:46.460 We've basically charted the decline and fall of the entire West, of America, of Canada, of all of Europe, basically losing it on life and family to an extent now that it's total insanity.

00:11:00.640 Yet Africa's not there yet. 0.98

00:11:02.500 And they're sort of like us in, I don't know, what would you say?

00:11:06.820 What kind of year?

00:11:07.580 They're at least 30 years behind us.

00:11:09.960 But what would you say?

00:11:10.960 What year are they sort of at?

00:11:12.980 Well, when it comes to these issues, I've often felt that I can imagine a time not maybe of my youth.

00:11:20.680 And I'm a child of the 60s.

00:11:23.020 I'm born in 1960.

00:11:24.140 And my consciousness of politics and society was more towards the latter 60s after the, you know, the assassination of Bobby Kennedy.

00:11:32.600 I remember that very well and JFK.

00:11:34.760 And then there was all that change.

00:11:38.380 I remember in school we started to have things change.

00:11:41.020 And the way we went and prayed at Mass, you know, all of that swirl of change that came after the Vatican Council.

00:11:50.300 And that's when I started to come into an awareness.

00:11:52.500 And I feel we're roughly in that time right now, at least in Nairobi, which is one of the more developed urban centers.

00:12:00.960 If you go to the countryside, it might be a little bit before the Vatican II, right, where there really is no understanding of, for example, transgenderism.

00:12:12.660 Like, explain that to me.

00:12:14.380 You know, it's like, how does that work?

00:12:16.200 And so many of these issues, it would be perhaps something more in the classic time of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson or something.

00:12:23.780 Or the family is well-defined.

00:12:27.640 But I think if you get into the city, obviously, like Nairobi, which is a major center of international engagement through the UN system and through, again, even in my sector in IT and technology,

00:12:38.260 it's one of the three or four cities that would be a bridge heading Africa into the international environment.

00:12:48.060 You see the shift in thinking and the influences and the resources of groups that would like to see Africa go in a certain direction from the West, clearly.

00:12:57.720 But also, you could say, from China and from the Arab money and the Indians and all over the world.

00:13:02.860 Well, now Africa seems to be a place where there's more attention being paid, whether it's for commercial interest or for an ideological attempt to sway their thinking.

00:13:13.140 And I mean, that's patently true from the Biden administration, from Trudeau's efforts in Canada and from the whole of Europe to try and push Africa onto their ideological agenda for sure,

00:13:25.780 as Pope Benedict used to say, an ideological colonization.

00:13:30.660 And, you know, that is so evident, the kind of you want a loan, you have to attach to it the, you know, contraception, abortion, LGBT agenda.

00:13:41.720 But it's been resisted.

00:13:43.040 I mean, at this point, the Africans are, at least when it comes to the LGBT agenda, which is really trying to be pushed right now, it's still absolutely not.

00:13:52.240 South Africa, of course, is different.

00:13:53.740 They've made inroads there that, you know, look to be quite extreme.

00:13:58.140 But the rest of Africa is still at that point where we might have been, you know, 20, 30 years ago.

00:14:04.700 No, we value life.

00:14:06.480 We value the family.

00:14:08.640 To a large extent, they've made inroads in the area of contraception.

00:14:13.480 And that in speaking both with both the Archbishop of Kampala and the Bishop of Kutui both acknowledge, yeah, there's, you know, been infiltrated, if you will, on that score.

00:14:24.000 But imagine that we have the ability still to intervene into a discussion which hasn't yet got there.

00:14:32.940 Imagine having the ability to intervene in America in the late 1950s, early 1960s, before we went completely insane.

00:14:43.420 With an experience set.

00:14:44.980 Exactly.

00:14:45.320 There's the difference.

00:14:46.600 Exactly.

00:14:47.000 And so we're able to bring there our experiences, our knowledge of the argumentation used.

00:14:54.340 And it's going to be slightly different.

00:14:55.980 But the devil usually doesn't change his tactics.

00:14:58.420 It's more fundamentally alike than it is different.

00:15:00.940 Right.

00:15:01.260 So there is an incredible opportunity to be able to assist our brothers in Africa who in, you know, running the pro-life movement, running the movement to protect the family, which, by the way, are one movement in Africa, unlike here.

00:15:15.520 That's true.

00:15:16.520 And really helping the church as well because there they're still speaking.

00:15:21.520 Obviously, bishops and priests are regularly speaking from the pulpits, the truth on life and family.

00:15:29.280 And lay leaders as well.

00:15:30.780 Absolutely.

00:15:31.600 Without the, what would you call it?

00:15:34.960 Do you know how here, if they mention anything on these issues, they don't spell it out?

00:15:40.140 Well, when we were in the Mass with the Bishop of Ketui, in the Mass, in the homily, he talked about homosexuality and said,

00:15:48.960 girls, you should never be kissing other girls. 0.98

00:15:51.980 And so it was, there was no beating around the bush.

00:15:56.380 Yes.

00:15:56.780 Truly beautiful.

00:15:58.800 And that is one of the areas where Africa gives back and is able to influence the West in a huge way.

00:16:06.860 These bishops are still speaking, speaking the truth in plain English so that people can hear it and understand it and go, oh, that is the faith.

00:16:17.040 Yes.

00:16:17.260 That is the faith of our fathers.

00:16:19.320 That I found was so beautiful.

00:16:20.600 Absolutely.

00:16:21.120 And I, I remember my, my father back in the, as early as I can remember, late sixties, early seventies saying, those church leaders, you know, it's, that's the wellhead. 0.91

00:16:33.680 And if they're not going to speak courageously and put themselves at risk and I guess their position at risk by saying that, which is inconvenient, you know, perhaps smelling up the room or whatever, to be blunt.

00:16:47.160 Then where are the rest of the lay leaders from the different disciplines?

00:16:50.740 And he was involved in the doctor's guild, the Catholic doctor's guild.

00:16:54.080 And there was the lawyers guild.

00:16:55.580 I remember Gwen Landauld and others.

00:16:56.900 And they had the various professions.

00:16:58.860 They all worked together, but they were all, I mean, they all were, they had some priests of Father Colton and others, you know, that obviously were there and were feeding and providing.

00:17:10.680 But when it came to the higher up in the, in the leadership, it was, um, a very frustrating experience.

00:17:16.840 And that's why one of the main reasons why it's a different in Africa, whether you're a Catholic or indeed an Anglican or in the other denominations of the Christian faith and, and, and Islam as well.

00:17:29.240 Um, they're pretty, they're pretty clear, uh, that this is against our human dignity.

00:17:35.260 And more recently, and I think it's something to do with the red pilling that happened with, um, the whole COVID situation in Africa, where the virus, uh, the vaccines came very late to Africa.

00:17:49.040 They weren't distributed initially alleged, uh, the international agencies were, were accused and you can Google this of, what do they call it?

00:17:58.280 Uh, COVID apartheid because, uh, they weren't able to get at the early, uh, distribution of the vaccine, um, for logistics or financial reasons, more likely financial.

00:18:09.100 And there were those complaining within, uh, the chattering classes in Africa, how typical, you know, um, they all, they have big hat, no horses.

00:18:17.780 You know, they have a, they talk a good game, but in the end we don't get our, uh, and so, so we had a youthful demographic, median age 18 in sub-Saharan Africa.

00:18:26.300 With the virus and its earlier versions ripping itself through the body politic or the, the society, uh, in, and then you had natural immunity installed.

00:18:38.640 Um, everyone had a cold back in January of 2020.

00:18:41.460 Everyone recalls a really bad cold.

00:18:43.700 Some of it actually, even in December, remember large groups of African, uh, sorry, of, of Chinese laborers and managers coming for the various projects that are happening.

00:18:52.020 And this is what's commonly believed to have inoculated the bulk of the Africans because those projects are all over Africa, right? 0.88

00:18:59.420 So anyway, flash forward from the delay and the, and the access to the vaccines from, well, let's say early 2021 by early 2022.

00:19:09.440 I may have my dates a little wrong.

00:19:11.020 They started to become available.

00:19:12.520 And of course they were near their stale date, right?

00:19:15.200 And they were being rolled off for great publicity and press release of here, it's contributed.

00:19:20.660 And by that point you had natural immunity.

00:19:23.360 Plus you started to have leaking through the filters concerns about, uh, you know, maybe there's some problems with these vaccines as well.

00:19:31.840 So long story short, the official claims are, even the official claims, which are as rosy as possible, are something like 10 to 15%, one shot or, or more.

00:19:43.180 And then the fully vaxxed, the, you know, the full treatment with the booster is that's in single digits.

00:19:48.100 Even in a city like Nairobi, a more advanced city, that's more hip and with it.

00:19:52.480 Right.

00:19:53.080 Um, and then, uh, and more recently it's just like basically gone flat because there's, there's no incidents and in the hospitals, there's no, there's no issue.

00:20:03.040 Yeah.

00:20:03.440 Right.

00:20:03.660 I mean, they did have, uh, in the initial phases, they certainly were those that were sick and those who were older and had comorbidities like you have everywhere else.

00:20:11.500 But there aren't so many of those folks.

00:20:13.260 And it's been argued that, um, why is it that Africa didn't get flattened as was predicted, you know, by those who were rightfully, I guess, worried.

00:20:22.380 That they weren't getting the vaccine.

00:20:24.420 Well, long story short, maybe the demographics and the natural immunity, you had this.

00:20:29.940 Now you go forward a little bit further and you have that last summer, the WHO had the meeting where there was the vote.

00:20:37.260 Uh, I may be off on my, uh, fine points on this, but my understanding is that the vote to allow for the WHO to have, uh, superseding authority on pandemic management was defeated.

00:20:51.420 Essentially by, it was at Zambia backed by other African foreign ministers saying, uh, no, they didn't get the magic number, whatever it was, two thirds.

00:21:00.260 It had to be a super majority.

00:21:01.240 And that was because there was a block of African votes.

00:21:03.580 And that, I can tell you, was connected to the history I just relayed to you.

00:21:08.880 Well, heck, you know, if it's the case that this was coming on and it was perhaps not ready for prime time as a medicine, not to say that it couldn't be, uh, we'd like to have, maintain our regional and or national say in these matters.

00:21:24.740 You know, so once again, Africa giving back, right? 0.57

00:21:27.360 So then we might be able to not go further into some errors.

00:21:30.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:32.280 What's, what's truly beautiful is the sane voices on life and family coming not only from church leadership, but also from political leadership.

00:21:41.220 So you have, you know, the, the press right now, I mean, just the other day, just after the visit of, uh, of Jill Biden, surprise, surprise, the Supreme Court in Kenya decides to allow for LGBT lobby groups to be registered in the country.

00:21:57.880 But, okay, so bad news, but to hear the chorus of united complaint from all the politicians, from all of the church leadership, from every denomination of Christianity and from the Muslims and the whole of the populace, that's incredible.

00:22:17.320 That's right.

00:22:17.960 Yeah.

00:22:18.100 And it's beautiful because, you know, I think the West is so used to political correctness.

00:22:24.880 Oh, they've made another pro trans, whatever decision.

00:22:28.140 Everybody keep your head down.

00:22:29.440 We'd like to say what we'd like to say, but we can't.

00:22:31.240 So we say nothing.

00:22:32.780 And it's a robust rejection.

00:22:36.020 It's a tissue rejection.

00:22:37.120 It's amazing.

00:22:38.380 And so that is, and should be so inspiring for us in the West.

00:22:44.160 That's some of the beauty of being able to interject into Africa and, and them being able to interject into America and the West.

00:22:54.340 It is so beautiful.

00:22:56.400 That should be so encouraging, so inspiring.

00:22:59.000 Yes.

00:22:59.360 And, and to, we can point to there's the church.

00:23:03.020 It's still alive.

00:23:04.360 There's true politics.

00:23:05.460 It's still alive.

00:23:06.420 Yes.

00:23:06.760 And, and an authentic response.

00:23:08.360 And, and I, I went on at maybe too much length on the, the whole dynamic of the COVID and that is in a sense, a red pill moment for African, not just African elites, but African populations.

00:23:22.780 There was like, Hey, whoo, let's hold on the, hold the show here.

00:23:25.800 So now comes this other sort of missile delivered from tube number two, right?

00:23:32.580 From the global West, as you were, which is, I would argue that if that, if you, maybe this is a bit speculative, but if it weren't for that experience of the COVID and maybe there's always silver linings and tragic events, right?

00:23:47.200 If it weren't for that sort of priming of the wariness collectively of Africans about, um, very helpful, not just suggestions, but movements of action, uh, that it's because of that reaction and that, that sort of, uh, collective giving your head a shake, you know, that we have this response as strong as it is. 0.95

00:24:14.580 I think the two are connected.

00:24:16.240 So like, and you can read that, the commentary as well, there is this sort of reemergence of what used to be referred to as the Pan-African spirit.

00:24:25.320 And it's not so much in a Marxist or a free market context for economic, uh, way forward.

00:24:32.160 It's in social, cultural, and familial.

00:24:35.080 This is against, and they'll say African values. 0.68

00:24:38.640 Now they may then say, add to that the appendix of Christian or Muslim, or indeed even nativist from, you know, pre, pre Western contact.

00:24:48.520 This would have been, uh, rejected at any one of those levels of the fabric of their, of their spirit.

00:24:54.600 Right.

00:24:55.180 So now you're seeing it much more clearly.

00:24:57.600 And I would, I would suspect that, um, this is a pattern we're going to see more of.

00:25:03.120 Mm-hmm.

00:25:04.100 Mm-hmm.

00:25:04.480 I, and this is the great hope that LifeSite has for Africa.

00:25:08.560 To be able to help them as they help us is a great work, uh, not only of charity, but of brotherly love in, in the truest of senses.

00:25:18.300 Um, to recognize in our brothers and sisters there, who, by the way, um, are in great need.

00:25:24.780 There's a lot of poverty there.

00:25:25.900 That's why LifeSite does the work with Sister Miriam and in Nigeria with the persecuted there in Boko Haram.

00:25:33.100 We're supporting parishes there through our LifeFunder, which is just great.

00:25:36.700 And we wanted to give all of you an opportunity to help us out with this African mission of LifeSite News.

00:25:43.840 It's a powerful mission.

00:25:45.280 It holds all sorts of promise.

00:25:48.080 And it is really something that is very much worth doing.

00:25:52.720 We've already been so blessed in this little time of working together.

00:25:57.200 And, uh, we really pray that, you know, this goes forward as a great work of the Lord.

00:26:04.640 Um, we can't do this without your help.

00:26:07.320 Um, any final thoughts, Greg?

00:26:09.160 Well, my final thought, again, thank you for the opportunity.

00:26:11.180 And we're beginning a new dialogue.

00:26:13.220 Um, as much as, as I think you saw, our presence there is richly appreciated by everyone that we're meeting.

00:26:24.420 Uh, there's a very warm welcome.

00:26:26.120 There's a very strong response from everyone from, from the bishops to the lay groups to the youth groups.

00:26:32.520 Um, and they are benefiting from it.

00:26:35.580 Um, I would argue that the benefit is mutual because as we share, uh, some of the scars on our arms from the battles that we've, you know, been engaged in to stand up for the truth and, and for, uh, true justice and human dignity, um, the return is going to be multifold.

00:26:55.240 And so that's part of the beauty of the whole exchange.

00:26:57.980 Amen to that.

00:27:00.080 Greg Shea, thank you so much.

00:27:02.200 Thank you.

00:27:02.540 It's been great and God bless, I pray, and you all pray, please, too, our future working together in Africa.

00:27:09.120 God bless you.

00:27:10.040 Thank you.

00:27:12.660 Hi, everyone.

00:27:13.460 This is John Henry Weston.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - March 21, 2023

Stopping the Forced Sexual Revolution in Africa

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