The John-Henry Westen Show - August 20, 2024


The ENORMOUS Power Bishops Have Against DEMONS ｜ Fr. Ripperger


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In this episode, Father Chad Ripperger talks with us about the role of exorcists in the modern world and how they are often out of step with the rest of the world when it comes to their role as public faces of exorcism.

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00:00:00.000 One time, I asked a bishop to impose hands on this one woman, and he did. 0.98
00:00:06.040 And she said when he put his hands on her head and started praying to drive the demon out,
00:00:11.080 she said the pain that she experienced, which is basically the pain that the demon's experiencing,
00:00:15.980 because that person's experiencing the same pain, she said was worse than childbirth.
00:00:20.480 Hey, my friends, we're really privileged to have with us, once again, Father Chad Ripperger,
00:00:32.200 as you know, an exorcist who has been very involved in making the public face of exorcists.
00:00:40.100 In other words, making exorcists public, sort of taking the place, if you will, of Father Gabriel Amorth,
00:00:45.280 who was the chief exorcist in Rome for a long, long time.
00:00:48.420 It's so great to have him with us, and you're definitely going to want to stay tuned to this episode.
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00:01:51.520 Father Ripperger, so good you could be with us.
00:01:55.660 Thank you for having me.
00:01:56.480 So let's begin, as we always do, Son of the Cross.
00:01:58.560 Father, if you could lead us, please.
00:02:00.260 Sure.
00:02:00.680 In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:02:03.640 Amen.
00:02:04.260 Amen.
00:02:04.980 Now, Father, your role as an exorcist is a very interesting one.
00:02:08.820 You've been very, very public regarding exorcism and the role of exorcists.
00:02:13.360 Before you was Father Gabriel Amorth, who I believe brought about a time when more people knew or got associated with or knew more about what's going on in the world of exorcism than at any other time before in history.
00:02:26.900 And you've sort of continued in that noble tradition.
00:02:31.060 And you've, at least in the public perception, have taken on much of the mantle of being a public spokesman for exorcism and being the reality of exorcism, of course.
00:02:42.080 And it must be somewhat daunting to be in that role.
00:02:46.100 But what's your take on it, Father?
00:02:48.020 I consider Father Amorth kind of like the father, although Father Candido maybe is the grandfather.
00:02:53.800 But Father Amorth was like the father of modern-day exorcists because he became the foundation even when I was studying this material.
00:03:01.340 He became the initial foundation.
00:03:02.820 And then from there, I branched out and did a number of different things.
00:03:05.380 But what I realized what he was actually doing when I was reading his book, I saw the value in the fact that he was doing two things.
00:03:12.380 One is that he was informing people of the reality of the diabolic, but also this is how spiritual, this is the complexion, and this is how spiritual warfare works.
00:03:22.300 It's a structured battle.
00:03:23.980 If you understand what to do and what not to do, et cetera, then you can keep yourself protected, keep your family protected.
00:03:30.520 And so I was observing that.
00:03:32.360 And then the other thing is, too, is which is something which I've tried to do in his same vein is there are times when I will talk about things that have happened in session, but never for their own sake.
00:03:44.360 It's always as a catechetical point.
00:03:46.160 And that was something that I noticed that he did.
00:03:48.040 And so I saw that what he was using this as a form of kind of not evangelization, but of catechesis for us to actually know.
00:03:55.000 And so what I began to realize, too, is that even though Father Morse's work was out there, a large part of the people simply did not have a knowledge of how spiritual warfare was working.
00:04:05.640 And as a priest and even as an exorcist, but even before, as I was an exorcist, I just noticed that a lot of people were getting kind of mopped up in the spiritual battle with because they didn't know even just elementary things to do.
00:04:18.520 And if we would just educate them, then that would actually help it.
00:04:22.620 So I initially didn't want to be known as an exorcist.
00:04:25.580 In fact, I operated as an exorcist for a number of years before I even stepped out onto the public scene.
00:04:31.300 But and even then, I only did it really as a catechetical thing.
00:04:35.240 And it's only became much, you know, it became about 10 or 15 years after that that I actually started talking openly about, OK, these are sessions.
00:04:42.740 This is what happens in possession and things like that.
00:04:44.860 But otherwise, it was primarily to educate people on that.
00:04:48.420 So I see it as kind of as an obligation as a priest who's knowledgeable in this area in order to catechize people.
00:04:55.140 So in this kind of ironic sort of way, being an exorcist is in when people hear that you're an exorcist, you either get one of two reactions or they're like, wow, that's amazing.
00:05:06.920 You know, and then they basically believe everything you say, which they shouldn't.
00:05:10.380 They should only believe in everything the Christ and the church says. 0.84
00:05:13.200 But on the other hand, then you'll get people who just dismiss you altogether and think you're just a complete nutcase.
00:05:17.960 So I kind of look at as I look at it as indifferent.
00:05:21.320 And if it does allow me to open up people's hearts for me to be able to talk to them about the reality of church teaching or what the what's the complexion of spiritual warfare is, then I'm willing to accept it.
00:05:32.960 But otherwise, I don't pay too much attention to it.
00:05:34.940 But what you just said there, Father, is so important.
00:05:37.960 The catechetical value of being able to teach people, as it were, the rules of engagement, how to engage in battle with demons.
00:05:47.780 That's so important.
00:05:49.460 If you had to or if somebody asked you, what are the top three rules of engagement?
00:05:56.080 Because, I mean, as a father of a family who, you know, if you believe in the divine and in the spiritual realities, you'll know that there's satanic activity directed at your family.
00:06:06.880 It's evident if you've lived long enough in family life, you know that.
00:06:10.980 So what are the few tips you could give, especially fathers, let's say, because they're supposed to be the head of the household as fathers.
00:06:19.440 What are the top rules of engagement?
00:06:22.600 Well, the top three, I would probably say are first and foremost, just lead a normal Catholic life.
00:06:28.180 And by normal, I mean getting to confession, getting to mass on Sundays and holding obligations, but getting to confession on a regular basis, receiving the sacraments, doing your prayers, which the church has all said.
00:06:37.260 So just leading a normal Catholic life, making use of the sacramental. 0.97
00:06:40.860 So if you just do that, that itself is going to be one of the principal ways to keep yourself protected.
00:06:45.800 And this is one of the ways that the fathers can inoculate their children is getting them to have a true love for the Catholic faith and the practice of the Catholic faith.
00:06:54.780 The second one is, I call it staying in your lane.
00:06:57.820 The authority structure of who has rights and who doesn't to give commands, it's infused in their minds.
00:07:03.260 They have absolute clarity about it.
00:07:04.620 So they know exactly what the demarcation are regarding who has authority and who doesn't.
00:07:08.640 So I always tell people, just stay in your lane.
00:07:10.880 Don't go praying over other people.
00:07:12.080 You can pray for other people and you can ask our Lord to help people if you think they're under diabolic attack.
00:07:17.980 But don't be praying, trying to command the demons to leave them if you don't have authority, whereas parents do, et cetera.
00:07:24.140 So just stay in your lane, because we found if you stay in your lane, the retaliation is very much minimized.
00:07:30.180 And also, because authority is to provide and to protect, it also means that as long as people stay in the authority structure, then they're going to be protected.
00:07:38.580 And then the last one is something that we've really kind of noticed.
00:07:43.400 It's a matter of maintaining discipline in your spiritual life.
00:07:47.060 In other words, there has to be some area of your spiritual life where you're practicing self-denial every single day in the practice of it.
00:07:54.380 And if they do that consistently, then we find they're, generally speaking, immune from diabolic influence.
00:08:00.500 In fact, what we have found is that about 80%, not including possession so much, but in lower forms of diabolic influence, we've noticed that about 80% of those evaporate once people just develop basic interior discipline in their spiritual life.
00:08:16.760 And so those are the three, I would say.
00:08:19.040 One of the things you mentioned there, I think, is very, very important.
00:08:22.720 You said parents do have authority.
00:08:25.600 Can you spell that out for us a little bit, please?
00:08:27.720 Right.
00:08:27.960 So all the way from the time of the Old Testament, all the way up until New, in fact, the authors actually say it's part of a natural law.
00:08:34.120 Because children are born to the parents, the parents have a natural law right over determination regarding certain aspects in relationship to the children's lives.
00:08:44.020 That authority over them, that authority is to provide and to protect.
00:08:48.000 So the providence, the protection is both material in the sense that, for example, the father has a right to protect his children from, say, an intruder into the house.
00:08:57.280 But he also, therefore, has a right to protect him spiritually.
00:09:01.080 And so the father actually has the right to command the demons to leave his children alone because he has authority over his wife.
00:09:06.840 He has the right to command the demons to leave.
00:09:09.400 The wife, actually, or the mother, has the right to command the demons to leave the children because she has authority over them, etc. 0.97
00:09:16.020 So in my book called Diabolic Influence, there's an 80-page chapter.
00:09:19.960 It's literally 80 pages on the authority structure.
00:09:22.400 And the reason I go into it is because in the spiritual warfare, the authority structure is absolutely everything.
00:09:27.040 Because the demons, it's all about power.
00:09:28.800 So once you understand the authority structure, then you can make use of it.
00:09:31.780 But in there, I parse out who actually has authority and who doesn't.
00:09:34.660 So the parents actually have that part from the natural law to basically command the demons to leave their children alone.
00:09:41.280 And the husband to tell him to leave his wife alone. 1.00
00:09:43.620 That's right.
00:09:44.940 And in the context of that, in the book I talk about, there's three different kinds of rights in relationship to commanding the demons to leave.
00:09:51.920 The one is the natural law, just a natural law right over our own body.
00:09:56.280 So, for example, I can command the demons to leave me alone because of the fact that this is my body and the fact that they're attacking it.
00:10:02.680 They have no right over this.
00:10:04.040 They have permission, but they don't have any rights.
00:10:05.900 So I can tell them, hey, leave me alone.
00:10:07.160 That's why any layman can actually command this.
00:10:09.460 This was actually, there have been some priests who say, no, lay people don't have the right to command demons.
00:10:14.380 That's actually not true.
00:10:15.760 So if you actually read, there's a book called Moral and Pastoral Theology by McEwen Callen.
00:10:21.440 It was probably one of the top moral theology books in English before the council.
00:10:25.520 And in there, it's like paragraph 2556 about, they talk about, no, the lay people actually do have a right to command demons to leave in relationship to themselves.
00:10:35.840 And then the other one is by office.
00:10:38.020 So the natural law offices of father and husband and then mother in relationship to the children.
00:10:44.820 So they actually have those.
00:10:46.420 And then the last one is by duty.
00:10:48.100 And this would be something.
00:10:49.740 So, for example, the fact that I have obligations to take care of my mother, for example, gives me, not just as a priest, but even as a son, gives me the right to command the demons to leave her alone because I have obligations to her.
00:11:02.300 And so those are the three ways in which that would actually happen.
00:11:05.080 So in relationship to marriage, the wife has rights over the husband's body by virtue of the marital contract. 0.96
00:11:13.000 And so she can command the demons to leave, even though she doesn't have authority over her husband in that same manner. 0.87
00:11:18.100 Very interesting.
00:11:19.220 So that brings up another question, because does it also apply to demons somehow involved in attacking not only persons, but things?
00:11:27.960 And so can the owner of a business, for instance, is able to command the demons to leave his business?
00:11:34.020 Yes, he does.
00:11:34.840 Only over those things which he owns.
00:11:36.640 So he doesn't have the ability to do it in relationship to his employees.
00:11:41.180 He does have the ability to command the demons to leave his building and to leave his business alone.
00:11:46.820 He does have that.
00:11:48.100 But then he would have to petition our Lord to ask to ask our Lord or our lady to drive the demons out in relationship to his employees.
00:11:55.480 But he but he does have the authority over his what he actually owns.
00:11:59.660 Wow, that's fascinating.
00:12:01.160 So what one of the other aspects that is very interesting here?
00:12:05.180 I heard you say it once before.
00:12:07.560 It's about the power of a bishop in terms of exorcism.
00:12:11.760 So there are priests that are, in a way, all exorcists, I think.
00:12:16.660 Yes, technically speaking, that's correct.
00:12:18.740 And then there's the bishop more so, or how does that work?
00:12:21.520 So basically, the bishop is technically speaking, the mandated exorcist of the diocese by virtue of his office.
00:12:27.700 Since the Council of Trent, the order of exorcists.
00:12:32.200 So as soon as you become a deacon in the new right, but in the old right, you receive the order of exorcists.
00:12:36.240 But once you become a deacon in the old right, in the new right, then you actually would also contain all the lower orders.
00:12:42.200 So you actually have all those lower orders.
00:12:44.300 So you actually are an exorcist as a priest or as even as a deacon, technically speaking.
00:12:48.520 But it's what we call a potest legata.
00:12:50.460 It's a bound power.
00:12:52.540 Since the Council of Trent, the church has restricted the doing of exorcisms over the lay people strictly to the clergy.
00:13:01.300 That is specifically to priests alone.
00:13:04.480 So not even even if you receive the order of exorcist, you can't and you can't employ it because the church has bound that power.
00:13:11.340 And so but the priest, even he can do minor exorcisms.
00:13:17.460 So, for example, he could just, you know, impose hands on somebody's head and mentally command the demon to leave the person, something like that.
00:13:24.220 But to do solemn exorcisms, he has to have permission from his local bishop because the bishop is the exorcist of the diocese and then he can delegate it to the priest.
00:13:33.200 Is there not also something about a bishop having more power somehow in terms of an exorcism?
00:13:39.520 He could do more than than even yourself, like an official exorcist?
00:13:43.160 Yeah, that's correct.
00:13:43.920 So because he has the fullness of the priesthood and also because of the fact that he has jurisdiction over his diocese, his the power that he exercises due to his authority as the bishop is far more extensive than it is to a priest.
00:13:57.240 So I'll give you an example. One time I asked a bishop to impose hands on this one woman and he did.
00:14:05.340 And she said when he put his hands on her head and started praying to drive the demon out, she said the pain that she experienced, which is basically the pain that the demons experiencing, because the person's experiencing the same pain, she said was worse than childbirth.
00:14:19.240 That type of thing doesn't happen in relationship to to myself.
00:14:23.140 So this is an indicator that the bishops, their power is much more extensive in relationship to that.
00:14:29.640 So it's not just in relationship to casting the demons out, but it's even in relationship to keeping their dioceses protected.
00:14:36.860 So one of the books I'm actually I'm going to write here once I finish that I'm working on another book, but one of the books is just going to be a short book, like 60 pages.
00:14:44.320 And the title of it is called The Power of a Bishop.
00:14:47.400 Most bishops don't have a clue how powerful they are.
00:14:50.560 Even when bishops are bad bishops, the demons have a tremendous loathing and hatred for them because of their position and power that they actually have in the context of the spiritual warfare.
00:15:04.040 So, for example, the bishop, he determines what graces flow into the church and to his diocese by what devotions he promotes, what he permits, what what liturgical stuff he permits, how he enacts liturgical laws in his policies in his particular diocese.
00:15:19.380 But then also in relationship to the diabolic influence, he has the power to exercise his diocese every single day and literally drive the demons out of the diocese.
00:15:30.720 And it won't affect just the Catholics. It's going to affect everybody in the territory.
00:15:35.800 And so if the bishops were doing that on a more regular basis now, they have to they have to be spiritually up to snuff.
00:15:40.960 They've got to have their own spiritual life in order.
00:15:43.100 But if they were doing that, I personally believe and this is maybe it's just an opinion of mine that if they started doing that, that even the political situations in their diocese would begin to shift.
00:15:55.140 And so because the demons would have less impact or less influence in those particular situations.
00:16:00.600 That's amazing. And would that then also sort of translate up to the pope?
00:16:06.840 Yeah, it does. Not so much because of the fact every bishop is like the pope in the sense that they have the fullness of the priesthood by being a bishop.
00:16:12.980 He has the fullness of jurisdiction of the whole church. And so because of that particular power of jurisdiction, then he's even he has even more power in relationship to being able to cast demons out.
00:16:26.500 I've never heard of a bishop doing like a daily exorcism like of his diocese or even remotely something like that.
00:16:33.680 But you don't have to name any names. But do you know of any bishop who is doing this yet?
00:16:37.320 I'm not daily, although there could be a couple of them that are doing it daily.
00:16:41.640 I do know that there were some that were doing it. There was a few of them that started doing it weekly.
00:16:49.620 And there were also some that were doing it because of particular issues that had risen in their diocese and realized this was diabolic.
00:16:57.020 They were doing actual minor exorcisms in order to kind of drive these demons out of their diocese.
00:17:01.060 So there were some, but it's to my knowledge, I don't know for certain, but to my knowledge, it's just a small handful.
00:17:07.720 When people hear that you are an exorcist, there are likely some who say, you know, you don't really believe in all that, do you?
00:17:15.760 You don't really believe that people can, you know, levitate or fly and like we see in the movies.
00:17:22.380 If people just say, you know, what do you say to some?
00:17:24.260 Because I actually had this at the University of Tulsa.
00:17:26.260 This one guy asked me, what do you say to someone like myself who doesn't believe that any of the stuff is real?
00:17:30.640 And I said, I don't have that luxury to be able to disbelieve it or not believe it.
00:17:35.000 I'm dealing with it every single day.
00:17:36.740 This is actually one of the things that I find so fascinating because everyone says, well, these are just all psychological problems.
00:17:41.520 Well, it's not so much now because of the fact that we get people from literally all over the world coming to us for help.
00:17:46.560 But before then, a majority of my cases were being referred to me by psychologists because they were saying things that they're like, that is not a psychological problem.
00:17:57.140 So the fact that they would and we actually even saw this in Indiana.
00:18:01.620 Father, I think it was Father Lampert, in fact, had the case where the kid was in the hospital.
00:18:06.760 The hospital staff was seeing the kid run up the side of the walls backwards.
00:18:10.360 Right. And then you had people levitating and things like that.
00:18:13.700 Now, do these happen in all cases?
00:18:16.120 No, they only happen in about five to seven percent of the cases where you're going to see those kinds of things happening.
00:18:21.740 But they still are real.
00:18:23.380 They still do exist.
00:18:24.900 You know, when you see it, people say, well, what is this as an exorcist?
00:18:27.600 What do you think about that?
00:18:28.440 And I'm just like, well, it's part of the landscape.
00:18:30.080 After a while, you begin to realize he's just doing that for show.
00:18:34.480 And so I don't tolerate it.
00:18:36.020 I clamp down on him.
00:18:37.260 So I don't see a whole lot of that stuff.
00:18:38.820 I mean, I still do from time to time.
00:18:40.500 But I just don't let them get away with that kind of stuff because they're just trying to be showmen and they're just trying to distract you.
00:18:45.940 Don't take my word for it.
00:18:47.760 Take the psychologists and take the medical health care professionals who are seeing this stuff from time to time.
00:18:54.260 Even people who are working in mental institutions are seeing things and they'll come up to me and say, this is what I'm seeing.
00:19:01.560 Is this is this diabolic?
00:19:03.080 I'm like, yeah, it is.
00:19:04.580 And it's not psychological.
00:19:05.640 Now, sometimes you can't make you can't discern whether it's one or the other, but there are some things that are clearly outside of a human being's capacity to do.
00:19:14.060 And that's what you tend to see from time to time.
00:19:16.540 One of the things we're seeing or getting into now, at least in today's day and age, there seems to be an appreciation for kind of weird manifestations.
00:19:24.840 People think, oh, that's that's cool.
00:19:27.180 The person is able to or in control.
00:19:29.640 They have some kind of power or magic.
00:19:32.340 Have you seen that yet?
00:19:33.560 Or perhaps you wouldn't be seeing that much because you'd be dealing with those people who want out rather than those who want to use it for gain or whatever they want to use it for.
00:19:44.320 Yeah, that's correct.
00:19:45.080 Usually we the only time you will see somebody who's actually doing it for power's sake and that they want to do those kinds of things or at some time.
00:19:53.480 And this is also the same principles apply to someone who's perfectly possessed.
00:19:57.880 You will only see those types of people if they're trying to take you out as an exorcist, because they'll and because if they can take you out, then it's a form of empowerment for them.
00:20:09.620 Whereas most of the people we and I don't see those types of people because we have a whole process that people have to go through before they can see us.
00:20:16.040 And they get vetted out very quickly because there's certain traits that you see among those people and you can pick them out pretty quickly.
00:20:22.160 So we see the people that just authentically want help.
00:20:24.820 OK.
00:20:25.260 And so we don't tend to see those people too often.
00:20:28.020 You're in a neat place, Father.
00:20:29.120 You're in a place where you get to see much of the spiritual reality.
00:20:33.760 So most people, they have lives where they don't really see any manifestation of the realities, really, of faith and spiritual life and or any kind of power outside the normal.
00:20:46.240 So faith becomes an exercise of having to believe.
00:20:49.280 And it's like blind faith, if you will.
00:20:52.600 But the miraculous or super normal isn't part of their normal lives.
00:20:57.060 What does that do to you?
00:20:57.960 Because you get to see it.
00:20:58.840 What has it done for you in terms of being exposed to it so much?
00:21:04.020 Is it a very different thing than for almost anybody else, for sure?
00:21:07.940 Yeah, that's true.
00:21:09.240 I one time jokingly said to a friend of mine, I said, you know, being an exorcist is basically getting to have a mystical life without being a saint.
00:21:15.440 Because you tend to see so many different things.
00:21:18.880 What it does is, I think one of the best descriptions was by an exorcist in Rome.
00:21:24.940 He said, it's the Christian life writ large.
00:21:28.840 And by that, he was meaning that you see the reality of the church's teachings regarding these things.
00:21:36.700 So, for example, every single demon, there is some point of Catholic doctrine, which was the point of his fall.
00:21:45.360 Right.
00:21:45.480 And so you begin to learn the demons themselves gives testimony to the truths of the Catholic faith in forms of clarity that you just it's hard to even hear human beings of the of the highest caliber express it with those kinds of that kind of clarity.
00:22:00.540 But also the very fact that the demon is conviction that because he was infused that this was a particular point of doctrine that he had in relationship to what God was asking him regarding his task and he rejected it.
00:22:15.780 And so this is the thing that he hates or that he attacks or what have you.
00:22:20.800 And so you start to learn those particular learn about much clarity because this thing, it's it's manifesting in a preternatural way.
00:22:30.680 It's something that human beings can't do.
00:22:32.100 It's talking in a voice, the person it's using languages that the person doesn't know.
00:22:37.440 And this thing is talking about things with it about the Catholic faith that gives absolute clarity to some of these things.
00:22:45.740 You know, I, for example, let me just give you an example. 0.62
00:22:48.880 The demon ISIS. 0.99
00:22:50.140 Yeah, it's a real demon. 0.99
00:22:51.000 There's a demon named ISIS. 0.58
00:22:53.000 He fell because he could not accept the mercy that Christ would have for human beings. 0.93
00:22:58.240 And so he was one of the most vicious, one of the most cruel demons that you can ever deal with.
00:23:06.020 And so you begin to realize, you know, how important the mercy of Christ is and how true it is and the reality of it.
00:23:15.700 So it gives you a sense of the true, the reality of these things in a level that you normally wouldn't otherwise.
00:23:22.640 Amazing.
00:23:23.520 Father, you've been so generous with your time.
00:23:25.560 If people want to learn more about what you do, learn more about exorcism and how to defend themselves against attacks from the evil spirits, where should they go?
00:23:35.120 What resources would you suggest?
00:23:37.440 If they're lay people, there's a book that I wrote called Dominion.
00:23:40.400 It's a long book.
00:23:41.420 It's a hard book to read.
00:23:42.360 But if you get through it, it'll give you the whole structure and give you a sense of how all this stuff works.
00:23:46.980 And also so the things that you can do in order to keep yourself protected and also to ward off diabolic attack.
00:23:52.940 If you're a priest, there's a priest version called The Nature and Psychology of Diabolic Influence.
00:23:58.620 You can contact us at my website, Census Tradition.
00:24:02.500 Or you can even go to our website.
00:24:05.680 But if you go to then because you can't buy it unless you get a it's on a private link and a code.
00:24:12.040 But that is for for priests.
00:24:15.260 And then also mental health care professionals can also buy it because it gives the diagnostic material about how you can discern between something that's psychological and something that's diabolic.
00:24:24.660 So those those would be the two places I'd recommend.
00:24:27.760 That's beautiful, Father.
00:24:28.580 Well, I want to thank you so much for for your all your time.
00:24:32.240 Any final thoughts for us before we let you go?
00:24:35.380 Just lead a good, solid Catholic life because that's your best inoculation against diabolic influence.
00:24:41.400 Father Chad Ripperger, thank you so much for being with us.
00:24:44.080 If you wouldn't mind giving us a final blessing.
00:24:46.400 Sure.
00:24:46.580 God bless you, Father.
00:24:55.800 Thank you.
00:24:57.000 Thank you.
00:24:57.680 And God bless to all of you.
00:24:59.420 And we'll see you next time.
00:25:00.280 We'll see you next time.