The John-Henry Westen Show - May 04, 2023


The LGBT Police Are Here: Christian Persecution Mounts


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

178.5774

Word Count

6,412

Sentence Count

542

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Two young men were arrested outside a public library in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, for praying outside a drag queen story hour for zero to eight year olds. They were not charged by the police. What happened? What was their crime? What did they do wrong? And why did they get away with it?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, honestly, from the fear aspect, especially with the LGBTQ community, there's the aspect of they're kind of like a mafia where they come to you and they threaten it.
00:00:08.920 They say, you know, we'll offer you protection. We'll offer you seclusion from the rest of this.
00:00:13.200 We won't attack you. But in exchange, don't cross us.
00:00:16.820 Do you remember the two young men a few weeks ago who were arrested or at least accosted by police outside of one of these drag queen story hours for zero to eight year olds outside of a public library in Calgary, Alberta, Canada?
00:00:38.740 Well, I brought them on here today to explain a few things to us, to tell us the story of what happened.
00:00:45.560 If you recall, we did a little coverage of that at LifeSite News and you saw this mob of Antifa there protesting them, but they weren't arrested.
00:00:55.740 They weren't charged by police, as was one of the young men.
00:01:00.340 What happens here? What's going on in Canada?
00:01:04.080 These are young men. They're inspiring young men.
00:01:07.120 You know what? These young men, I had a conversation with them, which I'm going to let you into now.
00:01:11.960 They were inspired also by Josh Alexander.
00:01:14.140 One of them, though, is probably pretty well known to many of us in that he is the son of Archer Pavlovsky.
00:01:22.680 Nathaniel Pavlovsky, 23 year old, is the son of Archer Pavlovsky, who I've had on the show before.
00:01:29.460 He was the one who was strident that his church would stay open and that the authorities had no right during COVID to say, you know, shut down.
00:01:40.440 We're not going to let you meet. And he was standing up for the truth.
00:01:44.980 He was arrested kind of brutally. He was jailed.
00:01:48.640 But, you know, watching that example has inspired greatness in his son.
00:01:53.740 And there's another young man here whose name is Declan Friesen.
00:01:56.920 And he's only 18. And he, too, has been inspired by his dad.
00:02:01.660 So these are young men standing up for the faith.
00:02:05.680 What were they arrested for?
00:02:06.820 Well, they were praying.
00:02:08.200 They were reading the scriptures and they were preaching outside.
00:02:12.200 And they were preaching, no, not a message of hatred, but a message of love.
00:02:17.980 And yeah, about the truths of Christ, but willing to take the label, willing to take the stigma for the love they have for others, especially the love they have for Jesus Christ.
00:02:29.880 Stay tuned for this episode of The John Henry Weston Show.
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00:04:20.620 Declan, Nathaniel, welcome to the program.
00:04:22.680 Thank you for having us.
00:04:23.360 Thanks for having us.
00:04:24.660 Let's begin as we always do at the sign of the cross.
00:04:27.300 In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.
00:04:32.220 Amen.
00:04:32.460 So, you two are quite exceptional.
00:04:38.340 I think most people would think, oh, they can't even exist.
00:04:42.000 You are faithful, pro-life, pro-God, Canadian young men.
00:04:48.520 They didn't know that was possible.
00:04:50.640 But we do very much here at LifeSite News.
00:04:53.400 If you can, for those who haven't seen, I've already covered your story once at LifeSite.
00:04:58.240 I've done a video on it already when you released your own video.
00:05:00.360 But tell us, if you can, just tell us what happened from the beginning.
00:05:05.940 Sure.
00:05:06.500 Well, we decided to go to a drag event because what led to it was a pastor by the name of Derek Reimer was opposed to this agenda, this drag reading, story hour, shows for children.
00:05:20.880 And he was arrested several times now.
00:05:23.120 You've covered that as well.
00:05:24.340 And we decided as young people that we're going to get involved.
00:05:28.140 We're going to use the momentum of what's been happening in Ontario.
00:05:32.160 Some of the students, their walkout, they're opposing this agenda.
00:05:35.980 And as young people, we're not okay with this agenda.
00:05:38.820 It's being shoved down our throats on every facet of society is just shoving this down our throats.
00:05:44.720 We've had enough of it.
00:05:45.880 So, we decided to oppose this through preaching and Bible reading and prayer.
00:05:49.820 So, we organized a vigil at one of these events.
00:05:53.880 And we decided to go down there.
00:05:55.360 And we just did our thing.
00:05:56.660 We've read the Bible.
00:05:57.560 We preached.
00:05:58.740 And, I mean, you saw in the video we were detained.
00:06:01.880 And Declan received a charge.
00:06:03.560 He was written up a ticket.
00:06:06.040 And they threatened me.
00:06:07.160 They said they'd be coming to my home with these charges.
00:06:10.580 And they haven't done so yet.
00:06:12.100 So, I'm still waiting for that.
00:06:13.240 Now, Declan, you got charged.
00:06:19.880 Give us the background here.
00:06:21.020 Because as I saw the video, yeah, you're preaching.
00:06:25.520 But there's a whole bunch of others.
00:06:28.360 What might seem like protesters.
00:06:29.840 They're protesting you for sure.
00:06:31.240 But they're all out there as well.
00:06:32.700 Right in the same vicinity of that library.
00:06:35.900 I'm actually very surprised I even got through my message.
00:06:38.480 Usually, something will happen and that will make sure that it ends.
00:06:42.000 But today, or the day of that happening, I did get through it.
00:06:45.860 And I made sure that I mostly read from the Bible.
00:06:48.240 That 70% of what I said was from the Bible.
00:06:50.860 And the rest was just leading up to it.
00:06:52.700 You know, connecting different verses.
00:06:55.020 So, yeah, honestly, I wasn't surprised by the response I got.
00:07:00.420 I wasn't surprised that none of them were ticketed or charged with anything.
00:07:05.940 We kind of expected it to go a lot worse than it did.
00:07:08.760 It actually went very well.
00:07:09.840 We actually went into it expecting to be arrested.
00:07:12.760 But we were only charged and ticketed.
00:07:16.280 But, yeah, no, it does show the double standard.
00:07:19.760 Because Antifa, these pro-LGBT activists were protesting us.
00:07:26.340 And the law states, I mean, this law came into effect after Derek Reimer's first arrest.
00:07:31.500 This rogue mayor in the city of Calgary decided to pass an unconstitutional bylaw that states you're not allowed to protest if you have certain beliefs.
00:07:41.000 So, if you're a Christian and you want to protest against a drag event, you're not allowed within 100 meters of that event.
00:07:46.720 Even though you're on public ground, public sidewalk, that's protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, you're not allowed to do that, according to them.
00:07:53.340 So, let's get down to specifics.
00:07:57.260 What's your mayor's name there?
00:07:59.780 Mayor Joydi Gondek.
00:08:01.960 Okay.
00:08:02.600 So, Joydi Gondek has made a law that basically targets only Christians of a certain belief, a true belief.
00:08:11.260 The belief in the truths that Jesus Christ actually taught.
00:08:14.880 What's the specifics of the law there?
00:08:20.160 Well, it says you're not allowed to protest against someone's race, religion, sexual orientation within 100 meters of public facility.
00:08:32.580 So, these events were happening in public libraries.
00:08:36.160 That's, by the way, funded by taxpayer dollars.
00:08:38.580 These drag shows are funded by taxpayer dollars.
00:08:41.240 And we're also not okay with that.
00:08:42.620 And our money is going towards this, and we don't agree with this agenda.
00:08:46.640 It goes against our religious beliefs.
00:08:48.560 So, we were there to protest.
00:08:49.980 But this law states you're not allowed to do that.
00:08:52.140 Yeah, and that's the reason the officer gave me, when he handed me the ticket, he said,
00:08:55.080 it's because you spoke against a sexual preference.
00:08:57.760 So, I had mentioned that we don't agree that drag queens should be sexualizing children.
00:09:01.380 That's why I was ticketed.
00:09:03.040 So, this is super interesting because, as we said in the beginning, these protesters, a whole bunch of them,
00:09:09.360 do you have some idea of how many there were, like seven, eight?
00:09:12.620 On our side, there was about...
00:09:15.920 No, on their side, that is.
00:09:17.180 Oh, on their side, no.
00:09:18.160 There was 30, 40, around that, yeah.
00:09:20.720 Oh, really?
00:09:21.080 That many?
00:09:21.800 Okay.
00:09:22.420 So, 30, 40.
00:09:24.460 Again, they're outside the building.
00:09:26.100 But didn't the bylaw say that you couldn't protest religion either?
00:09:30.460 Yeah, I'm sure it says, or whatever, whatever.
00:09:32.680 Yeah, and they were protesting us.
00:09:34.500 They were protesting our preaching.
00:09:35.400 Your religion.
00:09:36.360 That's what you're preaching.
00:09:37.220 You're not there going, no, I, Declan, because of me.
00:09:40.360 No, they're representing the Christian religion, reading from the scriptures.
00:09:46.840 And so, it's a double standard.
00:09:49.700 It is illegal.
00:09:50.880 They're even going against their own bylaw.
00:09:54.180 That's just quite incredible.
00:09:56.640 But continue from there.
00:09:59.060 Yeah, so, this law was not applied.
00:10:02.980 We asked several times the officers if they would be applying this law to the other side,
00:10:07.700 to the Antifa activists.
00:10:10.020 And they assured us that they would be enforcing this law impartially, and they're going to
00:10:14.300 go investigate them.
00:10:15.380 So, we stayed till the end.
00:10:16.560 We waited for these officers to go cite them, just like they charged us, and they didn't
00:10:22.400 do that.
00:10:23.640 So, it shows a clear double standard.
00:10:25.620 No, and as soon as we finished preaching and speaking, we were pulled aside by the police
00:10:28.980 and said, okay.
00:10:29.900 They actually claimed at first that I was going to be arrested and detained, but then it ended
00:10:34.880 up just being a ticket.
00:10:36.300 But as soon as we finished talking, as soon as we were done, we were pulled aside immediately.
00:10:40.200 There was no hesitation.
00:10:41.920 Yeah.
00:10:42.160 Wow.
00:10:43.160 Now, this drag queen story, or whatever they call it, are they restricting the ages of
00:10:51.160 kids here?
00:10:51.680 Like, what ages of children are allowed to see this horrific thing?
00:10:56.360 It is zero to eight years old.
00:10:58.520 It's all ages, but this specific one that we were protesting, preaching, actually, we weren't
00:11:04.120 even really protesting.
00:11:05.040 We were just preaching our religion, was for zero to eight-year-olds.
00:11:08.460 Yeah.
00:11:09.620 Wow.
00:11:10.380 Wow.
00:11:11.460 It's stunning that this can even go on, but it's very heartening to have young people
00:11:17.620 here.
00:11:18.160 Now, are you guys at, I guess, Declan, you might still be at school of some kind where
00:11:24.400 you're interacting with us?
00:11:25.780 No, I am graduated now.
00:11:27.640 Are you graduated already?
00:11:28.600 Okay.
00:11:30.260 Now, were you guys strong in your beliefs while you were in high school as well?
00:11:34.580 Yes.
00:11:35.260 All through my childhood, yes.
00:11:36.980 Okay.
00:11:37.520 So, did you have interactions with your fellow students?
00:11:41.800 I mean, it's very interesting to learn of this because, first of all, were you at a Christian
00:11:45.960 school or were you at a public school?
00:11:47.720 I personally was homeschooled and you've been in private school.
00:11:51.460 I went to a public-private high school and I actually recently graduated from university.
00:11:57.340 So, I've had a taste of everything.
00:11:59.960 Okay.
00:12:00.660 So, let's then concentrate on that.
00:12:03.680 The interactions you had with other young people at the university, how did that go?
00:12:09.520 I mean, did you make your beliefs known?
00:12:12.420 You know, what happened there?
00:12:15.140 Well, with my last name, it's a little more complicated.
00:12:19.140 I tried to keep my head down for the first two years of my degree because I wanted to just
00:12:24.040 finish my degree, get the grades, not really stir the waters.
00:12:28.060 But then, of course, COVID happened and you couldn't really stay on the fence any longer.
00:12:33.240 You had to choose a side.
00:12:34.360 It was, you're thrown into this and your beliefs have to be made known or you're not going to
00:12:39.660 survive this.
00:12:40.920 So, I, after my second year, COVID happened, I had to make my beliefs known.
00:12:45.620 I was against the coercion that the school was placing on me to take certain medical procedures
00:12:53.300 that I disagreed with, to wear certain things on my face that I disagreed with.
00:12:57.560 So, I was at war with the university for a while and everyone knew my last name.
00:13:02.700 Everyone knew my beliefs already.
00:13:04.200 And then, after that second year, I could really, I really said, well, I have nothing
00:13:08.600 else to lose anyways.
00:13:09.980 The professors know me.
00:13:11.120 They're going to be biased against me anyways.
00:13:14.240 The students know me.
00:13:15.320 They hate me either way.
00:13:16.740 So, I might as well just make it all known.
00:13:18.580 And that's when I started to hold debates on campus and really start to stir the waters
00:13:23.340 there.
00:13:24.560 Ah, okay.
00:13:25.860 So, tell us about that.
00:13:27.760 A lot of young people are, you know, intimidated.
00:13:34.200 They want to speak the truth.
00:13:36.600 And I know people are different.
00:13:38.260 Not everyone's called to.
00:13:39.580 Some people are honestly called to pray.
00:13:42.140 Some people aren't given the gift of speech or an ability to speak well.
00:13:46.080 You both have, praise God.
00:13:47.620 But we're not talking about everybody.
00:13:49.620 But we are talking about being able to give witness to the truth prudently, as you're
00:13:56.260 called to.
00:13:57.380 But there's a lot of intimidation.
00:13:59.860 How do you overcome that?
00:14:02.020 What are your suggestions for engaging with peers?
00:14:05.440 My suggestion would be, the Bible says that if you acknowledge me before my Father in heaven,
00:14:10.780 Jesus said this.
00:14:11.740 I will acknowledge you before my angels in the presence of my Father.
00:14:14.480 And that's really what I come back to when I think about these things.
00:14:18.660 Everything on earth, everything in front of your peers or your friends is very temporary.
00:14:22.400 The people around you.
00:14:23.760 In a couple years, it's not going to matter.
00:14:25.760 And it doesn't honestly matter now.
00:14:27.420 What matters is that you testified of the truth and that you spoke of God correctly.
00:14:31.680 And that your conscience is clear.
00:14:33.100 Honestly, I would rather be embarrassed in front of people than violate my conscience before God.
00:14:39.040 And it is difficult nowadays.
00:14:41.140 There's cancel culture.
00:14:42.120 There's this whole system that's designed to silence you and your beliefs.
00:14:46.980 Anything that goes contrary to what they want, their narrative is heavily attacked and
00:14:51.680 silenced.
00:14:52.440 But the Bible says if you know how to do good and you choose not to do it, that's evil in
00:14:57.080 the sight of God.
00:14:57.920 So you have to, even if you don't have the gift of speech.
00:15:00.680 Well, Moses didn't either.
00:15:02.260 But yet he was called by God.
00:15:03.520 So everyone has a part to play in this.
00:15:06.540 And young people, if we don't start standing up for this, I mean, our future is done.
00:15:12.360 We're done for this.
00:15:13.560 We're heading towards a point of no return.
00:15:15.860 We're not there yet.
00:15:16.540 There's always hope.
00:15:17.760 But we have to start standing up now.
00:15:19.560 And if we don't do that, our country is already in a huge mess and we have to combat that.
00:15:24.280 So one of the things that I loved when I saw you speaking, Declan, was that you spoke about
00:15:32.140 the truth as they truly are, but you did so in love.
00:15:36.100 And you told them you don't hate them.
00:15:38.700 You want the best for them.
00:15:40.700 You want eternal life for them.
00:15:43.380 And so that, I think, is beautiful.
00:15:44.940 It's also kind of hard to argue with, you know.
00:15:48.140 But they're coming at you anyway with a lot of hatred and with a lot of condemnation.
00:15:54.600 But it doesn't matter.
00:15:55.120 The message was beautiful.
00:15:57.680 Yeah, obviously, hate the sin and not the sinner.
00:16:00.440 Jesus said to go and make disciples, go and preach the gospel.
00:16:03.760 So when we preach these things, yes, we're going to call out wickedness.
00:16:06.120 We're going to say, yes, this is wrong.
00:16:07.520 This is wicked in the sight of God.
00:16:09.220 This is not okay.
00:16:10.280 But we're also going to come back with a message of salvation, that there is hope.
00:16:14.440 You can be free from this.
00:16:15.880 There is a way out of this.
00:16:16.960 Yes, this is darkness.
00:16:18.140 But there is a way to be saved.
00:16:19.520 I think that's very important.
00:16:21.120 It's one thing to say, you know, this is evil and we stand against this.
00:16:24.960 But I think as Christians, it's extremely important that we follow it up with,
00:16:28.540 Jesus is the answer and the way to be saved.
00:16:31.700 Indeed.
00:16:32.380 Indeed.
00:16:32.960 How do you think it would be best to reach out to young people?
00:16:38.900 They're a hard crowd.
00:16:40.780 They're fed, honestly, hell in every medium today.
00:16:46.380 It's just incredible.
00:16:47.420 They get total distortion from everything.
00:16:51.340 They're fed, you know, from the mainstream media and even from public officials.
00:16:57.720 They're fed lies that a lot of people know are lies.
00:17:01.360 How do you think it's best to reach them?
00:17:02.620 Well, you're right.
00:17:04.340 They're attacked on every level, even their school systems, their teachers, their peers, social media, everything.
00:17:09.440 So I think the best way to reach them is, first of all, if you're a parent, it's important that you teach your child the ways of God.
00:17:15.320 Teach your child to walk in the ways of righteousness and he will not depart from it, the Bible says.
00:17:19.420 So it starts in the home.
00:17:21.040 So it starts with not just giving your child to anyone to let anyone teach your child.
00:17:25.520 It's very important that you as a parent, as a role model, God gave you that child as a gift.
00:17:29.480 It's important that it starts there.
00:17:31.660 As to teenagers now that are already kind of been ushered into this cult is what it is.
00:17:40.220 Honestly, me and Nathaniel are trying at every aspect.
00:17:42.460 We're trying social media.
00:17:43.460 We're going out and preaching.
00:17:44.760 But the best way, I would say, is to keep speaking, to not stop and not give up.
00:17:48.960 Yeah, and here's the thing.
00:17:51.180 Our generation has, I believe they're so sick of everything they're being shoved down their throats, right?
00:17:58.620 It's just lies, perversion.
00:18:01.000 And I believe they're starting to have enough of this.
00:18:03.820 I mean, you can only push them to such a point because the truth eventually will get out.
00:18:08.880 The truth is attractive, right?
00:18:11.120 Human beings gravitate towards this truth.
00:18:13.780 And after being fed the lies for so many years, you start to feel that depravity and you start to hunger after.
00:18:20.840 If you've been fed the world for so long and you experimented with everything, you've tried everything to fill that void in you.
00:18:28.240 Eventually, you're going to realize, well, none of this is filling the void.
00:18:30.960 There's something more.
00:18:32.320 There's more meaning to this life.
00:18:33.700 And I believe they're going to come to know Jesus, to know the truth.
00:18:38.100 But we just have to keep speaking the truth.
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00:19:24.040 You know, I had a conversation here with my studio manager, and he told me about three aspects that the world kind of uses now to work on us.
00:19:36.100 And they are fear and confusion and lust, all sort of working together to, you know, totally destabilize culture.
00:19:49.200 Obviously, with the whole COVID thing and with the, you know, the environmental crisis and blah, blah, blah, climate change going to end the planet, we've been using fear for so long.
00:20:01.800 I mean, it's got to such an extreme state during COVID.
00:20:05.140 That was really the, if anybody didn't believe they were using fear porn, it's been called or whatever, they could see it then.
00:20:13.200 And then massive, massive confusion everywhere.
00:20:18.060 And just lying from our politicians, even blatantly so, when they've said one thing, you know, 10 minutes later, they say something else.
00:20:26.040 But then it's funny because it comes into this culture that's already so polluted with lust.
00:20:32.700 Like so many people, especially young men, addicted to porn and whatever else.
00:20:37.600 And all of that makes for human beings who just can't think straight anymore.
00:20:44.080 I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
00:20:45.740 Well, honestly, from the fear aspect, especially with the LGBTQ community, there's the aspect of they're kind of like a mafia where they come to you and they threaten it.
00:20:55.800 They say, you know, we'll offer you protection.
00:20:57.460 We'll offer you seclusion from the rest of this.
00:21:00.100 We won't attack you.
00:21:01.140 But in exchange, don't cross us.
00:21:03.940 Okay.
00:21:04.160 Because if you cross us, there's a lot of us and we've got the muscle and power.
00:21:07.920 We will cancel you.
00:21:08.720 We'll do whatever.
00:21:09.700 We'll make your life miserable.
00:21:10.600 So they kind of act like the mafia in that way where it's a threat.
00:21:14.220 You better support us.
00:21:15.300 You better be an ally.
00:21:16.360 So there is a huge fear factor hanging over people where you don't want to speak against us because we'll do exactly what happened to us during when we were preaching.
00:21:26.460 You know, I was I started with a prayer and it's loud on the video.
00:21:31.020 But in real life, the screams that came up, they will attack you with full force.
00:21:36.580 But the Bible says that God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and sound mind.
00:21:42.360 And that's important to remember when they come at you with this, that, okay, the one who is with me is greater than he who is on the earth.
00:21:48.280 I think that's very important to remember.
00:21:49.800 Yeah, the West has gravitated towards this sexual perversion.
00:21:54.960 This I believe it's a spirit of sexual confusion.
00:21:58.360 You know, men can be women.
00:21:59.360 Women can be men.
00:22:00.460 This gender bending, mutilating children, changing their gender, putting them on hormone blockers.
00:22:05.120 It's all designed to pervert what God created, pervert that family unit, because a strong family means a strong economy, strong middle class, strong nation.
00:22:16.140 Our country was built on Judeo-Christian values, and they just want to do everything in their power to pervert that.
00:22:21.720 And an easy way to do that is through lust, is through sexual perversion.
00:22:26.000 That's what a lot of scholars say.
00:22:28.060 That's what crumbled the Roman Empire.
00:22:29.500 That's what crumbled Babylon, sexual perversion.
00:22:31.860 And that's what we're seeing in Canada and the United States today.
00:22:35.120 Yeah, it's incredible that, you know, that sort of lay the foundation for going more and more crazy.
00:22:41.920 You know, when you guys were still children and this war was being fought, a lot of people warned, we're going to get to a day when there won't only be same-sex marriage.
00:22:52.160 There will be just pedophilia even.
00:22:54.600 And people were like, oh, come on, that's so extreme nonsense.
00:23:00.200 We'll never get there.
00:23:01.020 And as we went year by year, sure enough, in came gay marriage, first unions, then marriage.
00:23:08.340 And now, now what are they talking about?
00:23:10.680 The UN just released a document talking about openness to pedophilia, to adults having sexual relations with children.
00:23:19.340 Complete insanity.
00:23:20.100 Yeah, and we made the mistake of we don't recognize it as a spirit, as a spiritual force.
00:23:27.140 In the beginning, we'd say, oh, they only want gay marriage, but it does escalate because there is a spirit behind it.
00:23:32.000 Yes, it actually does want to harm the children.
00:23:33.740 It wants to harm the whole family.
00:23:35.740 And it's kind of like COVID was in that way, where at the beginning, it's, well, we only need 15 days.
00:23:41.160 And then it escalates to where we're in this for two years.
00:23:44.420 It's the same spirit behind it, where we only want gay marriage.
00:23:48.520 Oh, we only want to do drag shows in front of your children.
00:23:51.260 Oh, we only want to legalize pedophilia, because love is love.
00:23:54.620 And we don't attack it in the spirit realm.
00:23:56.820 We just say, well, slippery slope fallacy, but it's not a fallacy.
00:24:00.500 We've seen.
00:24:01.020 It's proven to be true.
00:24:02.680 If you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.
00:24:04.500 If you give them a finger, they'll take your hand.
00:24:06.140 And it's like with Nazi Germany, it didn't just happen overnight.
00:24:10.880 That was a long agenda that took actually years in the making of indoctrinating the youth and changing society, influencing this one little law at a time.
00:24:21.200 And then eventually you're just numb and immune to all of this.
00:24:24.380 And you just start to accept it because it comes in incrementally slowly.
00:24:28.160 And that's what's happening today.
00:24:29.500 They're just trying to normalize this and get us used to the fact that this is going to happen.
00:24:34.640 But it comes slowly.
00:24:35.980 And people, unfortunately, they're buying it because it's coming in so slowly that they're blind to it.
00:24:42.000 Indeed.
00:24:42.460 I think what you said there, Declan, is super important.
00:24:46.180 The spiritual reality behind this.
00:24:50.500 These aren't just angry men and women, you know, feeling that their rights have been hurt or whatever, whatever.
00:24:57.340 There is a spirit behind it, just as there is a spirit behind abortion.
00:25:01.100 Because a lot of people think, you know what, with enough political clout and maneuvering and smarts and, you know, we have to play the political game.
00:25:13.260 We're going to get there.
00:25:14.180 We're going to defeat abortion.
00:25:15.780 We're going to defeat this LGBT agenda because it's all a political game.
00:25:19.260 And we have to compromise and we have to do what we can with the parties and work in them.
00:25:23.280 And I'm not saying that we shouldn't do any of those things.
00:25:27.760 But if you don't recognize, first and foremost, that this is a spiritual battle, you've already lost.
00:25:34.400 Yeah, 100%.
00:25:35.540 I mean, the Bible says that the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy.
00:25:39.000 And you see that immediately they demand an audience with children, right?
00:25:43.400 They demand that you not be a man like God appoint you, be a man, to be the forefront, the protector of the family.
00:25:49.880 They want an audience with children.
00:25:52.020 In fact, they want it to be legal where a child can identify as a certain thing or get an abortion.
00:25:58.460 Their parents never need to know.
00:25:59.680 They can talk to their teacher.
00:26:00.620 They want to separate the child from the family because it is about destruction.
00:26:04.160 Destruction of the family and ultimately destruction of these people's lives and souls.
00:26:08.640 The devil wants us all dead.
00:26:10.300 So if he can't get to the children through murdering them through abortion, well, then he's going to indoctrinate them after so that he can make them his slaves.
00:26:20.240 One of the things that is very difficult in today's day and age, and I'm speaking to two young men, is exactly that.
00:26:29.820 The man standing up and doing what he needs to do for faith, for family, and standing up and being a leader.
00:26:38.480 And that's challenging today because we're not taught that.
00:26:41.820 In fact, you're taught the opposite.
00:26:44.000 But more than that, a man is called to be the spiritual leader of his home.
00:26:50.880 Now, I know, Nathaniel, your dad is Artur Pawlowski and, you know, a preacher who is very willing to speak the truth, even amidst the hardships of COVID.
00:27:06.820 But tell me for you two, what does that mean to you to be the spiritual leader of your home?
00:27:11.860 Well, right now, we see that there's no men in Canada.
00:27:18.500 There's no men in the West.
00:27:20.500 If you have strong men, you have strong society.
00:27:23.580 God has a certain purpose for men.
00:27:26.800 And that is to be the defenders, the provider, the head of the household.
00:27:30.900 And right now, we see that being perverted completely.
00:27:33.800 It's switched so that women are put on this pedestal and men are berated and said they're lesser, you know, they use buzzwords like toxic masculinity and stuff because they want to destroy strong men.
00:27:47.520 If you have strong men, you have a strong nation.
00:27:49.800 You have men that are willing to fight against this and stand up.
00:27:52.640 And we don't have men in this country anymore.
00:27:54.940 There's no men.
00:27:55.820 They're not fighting.
00:27:56.520 They're not standing up.
00:27:57.180 We have a bunch of women.
00:27:58.360 We have a bunch of boys.
00:28:00.280 And that has to change.
00:28:01.880 We need the men to start rising up because if we don't have men to fight this, then who's going to fight for us?
00:28:07.480 Yeah.
00:28:07.700 I mean, a great influence on what we did when we were ticketed was our fathers.
00:28:12.760 Your father, obviously, Archie Pilewski.
00:28:14.480 My father has been arrested in the city of Calgary for preaching and for honking when during COVID it was illegal to honk in Calgary.
00:28:22.500 We've had some crazy laws in this city, by the way.
00:28:25.160 Yeah.
00:28:25.480 And we wanted to organize an event where we were seeing some chatter where people were saying, well, we're just brainwashed by our fathers.
00:28:30.900 And we don't have any free will or choice in this.
00:28:34.500 And and they're calling all the shots.
00:28:35.980 We're like, no, actually, we're men now, too.
00:28:38.200 And our fathers have given us an excellent example.
00:28:39.800 We're going to go and preach.
00:28:41.200 And so it was a it was a great thing to draw on.
00:28:43.520 My dad was actually there at the time, but he he wanted to leave all the preaching and the speaking to us.
00:28:48.540 And that was a that was a really encouraging thing to have my dad there because I've seen him speak and stand up for this.
00:28:53.780 And it's extremely important to have I have a great mother.
00:28:57.240 I have a great father.
00:28:58.160 Both are extremely important.
00:28:59.280 But I've seen my dad stand up for righteousness and say, this is wicked and I will not stand for it as a Christian.
00:29:05.740 And that's a huge thing when you're when you see your father do that for you.
00:29:10.200 We have very little to gain from doing this.
00:29:13.080 And we're just following the examples that our father set before us because there's no one standing up.
00:29:19.320 There's no men that are willing to stand up.
00:29:21.260 So we have to unfortunately, we have to take up the mantle and do this because no one else is doing it.
00:29:25.720 Our country is run by psychopaths who are dressing in pink high heels, doing some seance around walking around.
00:29:34.960 I mean, that's what our politicians are doing.
00:29:36.400 That's what our country's run run by.
00:29:38.720 And it's pathetic.
00:29:40.180 We need we need men to start rising up.
00:29:42.400 So we decided to take that upon ourselves.
00:29:45.280 Now, those that you're referring to, in fact, I'm going to get them to play a little clip of that here.
00:29:50.440 These are not just any politicians.
00:29:53.180 These are our conservative politicians prancing around in pink or red high heeled shoes, whatever they're wearing there.
00:30:01.980 I mean, it's beyond it's you can't laugh at this.
00:30:06.320 This is so sad.
00:30:08.060 These are our conservatives.
00:30:10.300 And that's why, you know, I hear you when you say there's no men.
00:30:14.420 It's like, where are they standing up for anything?
00:30:18.820 But again, come back to the real truth.
00:30:22.500 No one's going to stand up against a spirit of wickedness if they don't even recognize that this is a spiritual battle.
00:30:29.400 And so, yeah, the powers of Satan are much, much stronger than that of men.
00:30:34.900 They're superior beings.
00:30:35.940 But we have all grace, all truth through Jesus Christ and an ability to vanquish Satan with Christ that, you know, Satan doesn't stand a chance.
00:30:49.560 So there's a lot to stand up for.
00:30:51.580 Any final thoughts for Canada, for where we are as Canada and for young people?
00:30:56.860 I believe it's a time where to be a good man, it's not enough to just have those beliefs and keep them to yourselves in the household.
00:31:07.340 You have to bring that into the public square because we're in a point right now where if you don't start doing that, you don't start presenting the lie or presenting the truth to the lie.
00:31:16.720 Well, then the lie wins.
00:31:18.060 So it's not enough to be a good man.
00:31:19.500 You have to be a strong man.
00:31:20.740 And right now we're calling on young people to join in this because that's what we need.
00:31:26.660 We need the young people to start rising up.
00:31:29.040 Every movement, every significant movement started with the young people, believe it or not.
00:31:33.440 University students, civil rights movement in the United States, solidarity movement in Poland.
00:31:38.240 You need the students, you need the young people to join this.
00:31:41.700 And that's what we're here to talk about.
00:31:43.880 Yeah, I don't want it to be said.
00:31:45.600 People say, well, I don't want to be too loud.
00:31:47.180 I don't want to be too offensive.
00:31:48.160 I don't want to essentially just offend people.
00:31:51.500 And I said it in my speech on that day.
00:31:54.100 I said, if someone is on a train track and a train is coming, it's not the time to think, well, I don't want to hurt their feelings by raising my voice.
00:32:01.960 I don't want to offend them by saying, hey, you're literally on the wrong track.
00:32:06.300 You need to move out of the way.
00:32:08.300 I'm not going to be shamed for saying, okay, you're about to get really hurt.
00:32:12.440 This lifestyle, this path you're on, this path our country's on, this is bad.
00:32:16.360 And it's a mistake to say, well, I want to live and let live.
00:32:21.640 I'm just going to leave them be.
00:32:23.580 And you're going to be responsible for the thing that happens next, the course of action that takes place after because you said nothing.
00:32:29.600 And I don't want that to be said of me.
00:32:31.660 The truth is offensive.
00:32:32.760 Jesus was offensive.
00:32:34.200 Now it's time to speak up.
00:32:35.620 Do what he did.
00:32:37.260 Absolutely.
00:32:37.660 And it is a message of love.
00:32:40.740 So it's really strange people feeling that, you know, oh, I don't want to offend people.
00:32:45.580 The whole message is love.
00:32:47.620 It's about love.
00:32:48.760 It's speaking up like the courageous dad who says, well, wait a minute.
00:32:53.820 I care about you enough to tell you that this is harmful for you.
00:32:59.440 Yep.
00:33:00.040 You might call me a hater, bigot.
00:33:02.340 You might get arrested.
00:33:03.620 You might get charged.
00:33:04.760 God knows what might happen to us in the very near future.
00:33:09.140 Your dad was arrested in brutal ways.
00:33:13.120 That look what happened to Pastor Reimer.
00:33:15.800 These things get physical.
00:33:18.720 Your dad, when he was arrested in the middle of the highway there, like a like a common bandit stopped.
00:33:23.820 I mean, it looked like a police test.
00:33:24.980 That was, you know, done not only to hurt, which they did hurt him throwing in the sack.
00:33:30.460 I remember talking to your dad about how they threw him into the police car, like upside down sort of, and then left him in the horrible cell.
00:33:38.600 I mean, actual physical persecution meant to break you down.
00:33:44.760 But you're standing in that shadow cast by your dad and a very strong example.
00:33:51.800 It's beautiful to see the both of you not taking his place because he's still there, but coming up in the courage that he's shown and taking example from that.
00:34:03.520 It's absolutely beautiful.
00:34:04.380 So you guys are running some kind of a blog or something like that.
00:34:08.160 Tell us about it.
00:34:08.680 Where can people get in touch?
00:34:11.180 Yeah, we started something called True Dominion Canada.
00:34:13.700 You can go to truedominioncanada.ca or we're on YouTube.
00:34:17.040 Rumble, actually Rumble is preferred right now because YouTube censors a lot.
00:34:20.800 But we're on everything, Twitter and all of it.
00:34:23.660 So we do like podcast night, short videos, and ultimately what we want to do is activism.
00:34:31.200 So we want to gain, garner the attention of the young people so that we can actually start tangibly doing stuff to help better our nation, to stand for our rights and freedoms, to stand for moral truths.
00:34:42.320 And that's what we're doing.
00:34:44.580 Yeah, we see a lot of wonderful organizations in America and we see a lot of groups for young people.
00:34:49.680 We don't see it so much in Canada and we'd love to have more of that in Canada for the young people.
00:34:54.880 Amen to that.
00:34:56.920 True Dominion, what does that mean?
00:35:00.100 Well, we used to be the Dominion of Canada.
00:35:03.020 Now our Dominion has been hijacked.
00:35:04.860 So we want to bring Canada back to its true Dominion.
00:35:09.820 It's based off that psalm that says we will have Dominion from sea to sea.
00:35:14.180 And while we lost it, well, we want to bring it back.
00:35:17.860 Amen to that.
00:35:19.200 For God and country.
00:35:21.600 Awesome.
00:35:23.120 Nathaniel, Declan, so good to be with you both.
00:35:25.240 God bless you.
00:35:26.560 Thank you so much.
00:35:27.580 God bless.
00:35:29.220 And God bless all of you.
00:35:31.100 And we'll see you next time.
00:35:31.980 Hi, everyone.
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